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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. Sororities and

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Speaker 2: fraternities go hand in hand, the parties, the drama, the situationships.

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Speaker 2: But today we're flipping the script. We're putting fraternity boys

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Speaker 2: in the hot seat and having them answer the questions

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Speaker 2: sorority girls have always wanted to ask, maybe but maybe

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Speaker 2: never dared to. You guys are ruining my thing. Let's

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Speaker 2: get into it, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, girls, we're ready.

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Speaker 4: All I ask is that you call out the boys

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Speaker 4: that you want to answer the question. If it's for

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Speaker 4: the group, you can say that. I think individual questions

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Speaker 4: are better answered, though, especially in this group.

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Speaker 3: Take it away.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a kappa Kapa gamma. You can name your storty.

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Speaker 5: But so here's the question. When we do this show,

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Speaker 5: the whole trick with this show is it's anonymous. So

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Speaker 5: this is a harder question for you guys, because you're

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Speaker 5: not anonymous. We know who you are. My question is

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Speaker 5: for the fraternity boys, how sacred or secretive do you

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Speaker 5: keep the things in the fraternity So, for example, we

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Speaker 5: on this podcast reveal things, but it's because we're anonymous.

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Speaker 5: So my question for the four of you that were

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Speaker 5: in fraternities, would you reveal details of initiation? Would you

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Speaker 5: tell me what phi alpha means?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: All these secrets that you have, how secret are they?

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Speaker 5: Do you tell your whys? Do you give your wife

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Speaker 5: the handshake or tell her what happened? Was it a

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Speaker 5: banana in the toilet?

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Speaker 6: All that stuff?

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Speaker 5: How sacred is it?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 7: Loves a banana in the toilet?

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Speaker 6: The toilet trick.

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Speaker 8: I think that when you're in college and shortly after college,

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Speaker 8: things are very secretive, but once you start to grow

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Speaker 8: up and realize it's.

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Speaker 3: You start to divulge a little bit more. That would

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Speaker 3: be my guess.

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Speaker 7: I've got a feeling that we all have the same handshake,

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Speaker 7: and we all thought it was really cool, but it's

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Speaker 7: all the exact same one.

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Speaker 6: That's pretty true. I thought that's really true.

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Speaker 7: Proven you show me the GDI handshake.

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Speaker 4: So are you saying to answer that question? If somebody

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Speaker 4: in this room said, Hey, I really have always been

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Speaker 4: curious about this fraternities so and so, would you answer

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Speaker 4: it anonymously?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: If I asked you reveal something that happened during initiation,

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Speaker 5: would you reveal it?

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Speaker 6: Yes, reveal it anonymously.

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Speaker 7: It was Bred Adams, like, do.

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Speaker 5: You guys have a password? Like we have a password.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't reveal it on the air. No, I would

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Speaker 5: not reveal it anonymously or not.

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Speaker 3: I had to.

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Speaker 8: All of us pledges had to walk around with p

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Speaker 8: qs and ms at all times.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what a p Q and MS.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to tell you you.

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Speaker 3: You had to walk around with.

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Speaker 8: P I forgot what that was, but I'm going to

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Speaker 8: get back that qs are for quarters for the laundry machine,

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Speaker 8: so an actor could always find you on any part

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Speaker 8: of campus, fraternity whatever, ask you for quarters, immediately m

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Speaker 8: for matches back when people smoked peace are. Yeah, you had,

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Speaker 8: but you have to walk around and you had to

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Speaker 8: always carry p qs and m's, and no matter where

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Speaker 8: you were, no matter what time.

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Speaker 3: Of day, if an active asked you, you had to

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Speaker 3: show it.

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Speaker 7: We had to do a thing called a name list.

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Speaker 7: Do you guys know about name lists?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 7: So it was every active on a list, and you

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Speaker 7: had to go to every active and talk to them,

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Speaker 7: meet them, converse with them, and they had to check

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Speaker 7: you off. You had to get everyone signed before you

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Speaker 7: could become an active good one.

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Speaker 6: Juicy Bob, I got nothing because you don't want to

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Speaker 6: reveal it.

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Speaker 9: No, we so my pledge class. We are pledge guy.

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Speaker 9: The pledge leader, trainer Trainer has passed away. Well, and

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Speaker 9: I and I loved him. His name was Jeff Slaboda.

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Speaker 9: All right, wonderful guy rests in peace. Crazy but he

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Speaker 9: he He nicknamed our pledge class the vegetables for no reason,

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Speaker 9: and he gave us all a vegetable nickname.

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Speaker 6: Mine was the green Pepper.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to guess, not making it up.

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Speaker 6: I wish I were, and we would have to.

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Speaker 7: I will pay this though.

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Speaker 9: We had two guys in the pledge class who we

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Speaker 9: still only call.

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Speaker 6: Them by their vegetable name. Okay, what are their names?

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Speaker 3: Hold on, let me guess.

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Speaker 5: Okay, were you in the doorkey fraternity?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Hold on.

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Speaker 6: I had to carry a vege.

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Speaker 7: I had to carry this vegetable with me at all times. Okay,

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Speaker 7: green pepper gets kind of I got to.

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Speaker 3: I got to.

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Speaker 7: All right, one you might be like, that's a fruit,

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Speaker 7: but whatever, tomato and the other one celery.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I love your guesses.

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Speaker 7: Okay, here's as well.

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Speaker 9: Uh the one guy is yam and is still yam.

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Speaker 6: The other the P the P do you sing? You

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Speaker 6: know what the pe single.

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Speaker 5: Yes actually was before I passed the mic onto the

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Speaker 5: other sorority girls. Is there any burning question you guys

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Speaker 5: want to know about sororities.

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Speaker 3: That you don't know because I might reveal it.

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Speaker 7: I got one ready.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: At my school, men were never allowed to come in

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Speaker 7: the sorority house. Was there ever an opportunity for you

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Speaker 7: to get guys into the sorority house?

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Speaker 5: So I can only speak for Kapa Kapagama, but we

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Speaker 5: were allowed to have boys on our floor, on the

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Speaker 5: bedroom floor, in the bedrooms until ten pm. But you

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Speaker 5: did have to say when you brought the boy down

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Speaker 5: the hallway man on, so that nobody would like come

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Speaker 5: out of the bathroom with like their towel on that.

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Speaker 6: So no one like a naked pillow fight. We never

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Speaker 6: had naked pillow fight. That's absolute bullshit.

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Speaker 3: It's just not true.

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Speaker 6: I think you all have no I am.

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Speaker 5: Going to tell you the truth. We didn't I have

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Speaker 5: naked pillow fights, but you could bring boys.

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Speaker 7: But I do hope that like when you climbaxed, you said, anyone.

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Speaker 3: Ever stayed the night in the sorority house?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: I never did I have what sorority? Bob over here?

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Speaker 6: Were more than one?

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Speaker 3: Can you name?

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Speaker 7: Can you name a couple of the one was?

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Speaker 6: While I was in college?

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Speaker 3: Was?

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Speaker 7: Perhaps it got weird.

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Speaker 5: It got weird that Bob went to a sorty house

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Speaker 5: when he was out of together.

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Speaker 7: Respected except burning question.

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Speaker 5: You've always want to know about a storty before we passed.

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Speaker 6: It on to that.

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Speaker 3: That was a good question. I like that.

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Speaker 5: That was Okay, I won't say your name, but what

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Speaker 5: is your sorority?

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, if we have to be, shouldn't they? Okay?

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Speaker 10: I was in I was in theater Top Alpha Beta.

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Speaker 10: And my question to you guys, as fraternity boys, is

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Speaker 10: what in your eyes defines the top sorority houses? Like,

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Speaker 10: how would you classify the top sorority houses and vice versa?

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Speaker 10: How would you classify a top house as a fraternity?

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Speaker 9: Academics for the ladies, Yeah, clearly, totally kidding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we talking about? Aout?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like that. That's like a joke.

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Speaker 4: And we're talking about college here, and you're like, that's

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Speaker 4: not even that was even considered. It was like a

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Speaker 4: how fun were they at parties when you invite? How

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Speaker 4: many showed up, how many like intermingled? And it wasn't

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Speaker 4: that they were just like the best looking, but they

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Speaker 7: That was always did you guys do day parties?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 7: That's like a really good barometer. Yeah, right, like if

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Speaker 7: like the date because date parties, at least in my college,

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Speaker 7: it was just one fraternity.

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Speaker 3: One sorority exchange.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well at my school is called a date party.

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Speaker 7: I don't know to tell you, but like when I

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Speaker 7: when we did that, we'd be like this sorority sucks,

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Speaker 7: or like we be.

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Speaker 3: Like they're awesome.

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Speaker 7: It's just so much fun.

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Speaker 3: They had nothing to do with.

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Speaker 7: Like their academics. It was more to do with like

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Speaker 7: how fun they were, Like.

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Speaker 3: How yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 8: Let me ask you this, if you we had an

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Speaker 8: exchange or a date party and you had a lesser

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Speaker 8: hot sorority, what would the turnout be from your sorority fraternity?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Not strong typically, I think now.

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Speaker 7: There's always one in there.

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Speaker 3: Really, I want to say something real quick as a GDI.

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Speaker 7: Okay, literally, which by the way, sounds like an STV.

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Speaker 3: Ever since I got my GDI cured.

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Speaker 11: Okay, and I hate to say this, especially on Dirty

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Speaker 11: Rush podcast, but literally everything you guys are all saying,

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Speaker 11: I just roll my eyes so hard into the back

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, get over yourselves, you people. Come on.

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Speaker 11: It's so frustrating from an independent perspective to be like,

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Speaker 11: you guys are walking around like freaking bat weevils, like

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Speaker 11: fucking elbows out, shoulders back, just being like.

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Speaker 6: We're so much, we we're so much, We're so much.

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Speaker 11: Better than all you guys that aren't in the fraternities

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Speaker 11: and the superberties and sitting back here having just like

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Speaker 11: laugh along. It just makes me feel sick. Okay, and

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Speaker 11: I I can't do it anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I'm out here. Yeah, next question, no one else?

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Speaker 10: Okay, I was in say to tell Alpha and I

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Speaker 10: want to know Osquells and Ben who in this room

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Speaker 10: you guys think had the best RIZ in college?

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Speaker 3: A good question.

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Speaker 6: What's what's the best?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: I think I'm drinking a I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Riz is short for charsma. Well that's awfully zero, there's zero.

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Speaker 7: I am an answer for this, not to I don't

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Speaker 7: want you to jump on me. I don't want you

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Speaker 7: to jump like my answer.

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Speaker 8: Yeah no, I just didn't want you to do it

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Speaker 8: because then I feel bad about it.

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Speaker 7: My brother did some good work back in the day.

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Speaker 7: He had a lot of res.

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Speaker 3: Is it true.

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Speaker 8: I have no idea where the story's going. There is

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Speaker 8: no story. I'm just saying that he was his magic.

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Speaker 6: This is for Wells.

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Speaker 8: They got everyone quiet.

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Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what the right answer is. I think

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Speaker 8: So remember when you're eighteen or nineteen and answer the

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I think, like what are we looking for here?

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Speaker 7: To wait a little bit?

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Speaker 7: Hello, I was in Alpha FI and this is for

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Speaker 4: Would you rather sleep at your house or would you

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Speaker 6: My house?

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Speaker 7: Know why he hasn't changed his sheets in three months? Sorry?

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Speaker 11: The sheets are always cleaner, obviously, the mattress is nine

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Speaker 7: I think, actually you do hate it that you were

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Speaker 11: Is there anything when I look back to those college days,

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Speaker 3: Because that's what I always saw fraternity brothers. Ass No to.

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Speaker 8: What I said earlier, I mean I went to college

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I have ten

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Speaker 3: And so I don't think it's about just notches in

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Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend for my freshman year the my

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Speaker 3: Cool for you? That was not a thing.

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Speaker 4: And I think go back to what we were talking

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Speaker 4: None of us were as cool as well, like in

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Speaker 4: He was a quarterback, handsome and funny and charismatic. For

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Speaker 3: I think I.

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Speaker 11: Will say too, to add to to kind of piggyback

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Speaker 11: I think that maybe forms a friendship that can't be

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true,

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Speaker 3: Sure? Okay, because I've seen that.

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Speaker 11: I've seen that with my friends, like one of my

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Speaker 11: it's mutual.

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Speaker 3: At least I hope it is.

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Speaker 11: I love you too, I know that like this guy

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Speaker 10: Might you know, how does the Bachelor Nation brotherhood compare

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Speaker 9: I was actually, I'm glad you have six I was

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Speaker 9: But you know, to that point, I think, yeah, like,

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Speaker 9: you go through something weird, like a dating game show

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Speaker 9: the game. And it doesn't mean one stronger or less

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Speaker 9: stronger than another. It just means it's at a different

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Speaker 9: stage in the game. And I think as you're older,

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Speaker 9: sometimes I would think the friendships you make later in

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Speaker 6: They're the ones you're really choosing.

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Speaker 9: When you have kind of you give yourself the ability

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Speaker 4: That's be on a soapbox, But anytime you enter into

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Speaker 4: something that's uncomfortable or unfamiliar, typically the best stories come

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Speaker 4: I mean there I don't know or I don't hang

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Speaker 4: out with every bachelor that's existed for many reasons, but

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Speaker 4: we have, the bachelor will get brought up and we'll

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Speaker 4: Was unfamiliar, but through that you have buddies that walked

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing with the show. Yeah, but it's different.

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Speaker 7: Though thousands of people have been Fiji's thousands of people

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Speaker 3: Thousands of people have been on the show.

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Speaker 7: Now we're maybe maybe fifteen hundred people have been on

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's.

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Speaker 7: A very small well let's say a thousand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I remember Alon saying he was like, you're in a

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Speaker 7: weird thing of like only a few people have ever

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Speaker 7: experienced this thing, and I think we're all like, we

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Speaker 7: have this weird trauma bond all.

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Speaker 3: Of us.

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Speaker 7: From this thing in a good way, in a bad way.

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Speaker 11: Whatever I got, Okay, So here's my interpretation of that.

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Speaker 3: Because I know you guys have been dying the year.

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Speaker 11: I obviously don't have the fraternity experience, but I will

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Speaker 11: say from from my bat from thank you Bob, from

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Speaker 11: my Bachelor experience explicitly, I was on a season with

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Speaker 11: thirty men, right, and I think all of us were

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Speaker 11: whenever we were on the.

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Speaker 3: Bachelor, as Brad excluded.

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Speaker 11: Of course, I talked to one of those people, not

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Speaker 11: even regularly, but like semi often. Right, And I don't

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Speaker 11: know how you guys function with your fraternity brothers, but

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Speaker 11: I imagine that the odds of you staying in contact with

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Speaker 11: your fraternity brothers is higher than a regular bachelorette contestant

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Speaker 11: to stay in contact with the rest.

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Speaker 3: Like the only I have two really good.

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Speaker 11: Friends from the bachelorette, right, it's Ben and Wells and Alex.

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Speaker 11: Yes he's he's a buddy, but like, I don't talk

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Speaker 11: to him nearly as much as I talk to you guys.

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Speaker 11: And I don't even talk to you guys that much. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I guess my point is, I mean, I mean meaning

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Speaker 11: to talk to you about that. I guess my point

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Speaker 11: is maybe I'm just a bad brother at the end

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Speaker 11: of the day. No, my point is, it almost seems

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Speaker 11: like there is less of a brotherhood when it comes

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Speaker 11: to the bachelorette than there is a fraternity, at least

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Speaker 11: in my experience.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like I've got I've.

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Speaker 11: Got three, three, maybe four people that I would consider

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Speaker 11: really close friends that were from the bachelorette. And I

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Speaker 11: bet you you would say you have more close friends

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Speaker 11: from your fraternity in college. And again I'm not gonna

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Speaker 11: know for sure, but like I would assume that all

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Speaker 11: of you have higher numbers than that when it comes

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Speaker 11: to your fraternity life in college. And to answer your question,

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Speaker 11: it just seems like in my experience, at least, you're

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Speaker 11: allowed to be maybe a bit more selective as you

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Speaker 11: get older. Maybe that's what it is, but I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think there's a thousand theories. It's formative years.

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Speaker 4: You can still I mean, you have shared things in common,

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Speaker 4: Like you can go back to basketball games, you go

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Speaker 4: back to football games, you go back to tailgates, Like

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Speaker 4: there's reasons to get together. And I think that's a

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Speaker 4: big thing in friendships as adults is sometimes you love

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Speaker 4: somebody else, but there's not like distinct reasons to get

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Speaker 4: back together. But with college there always is, like there's

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Speaker 4: always that game, there's always the homecoming, there's always the

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Speaker 4: tailgate that you can come back and gather again, and

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Speaker 4: it just keeps you in contact. Where with the Bachelor,

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Speaker 4: if we didn't have have iHeart right, it would be

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Speaker 4: less and less that we'd be able to get together

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Speaker 4: because all of us have our own separate lives. But

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Speaker 4: this brings us back together, and so it keeps us connected,

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Speaker 4: it keeps us sharing moments and stories and memories. So

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Speaker 4: I think this has done what a fraternity would do

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Speaker 4: twenty thirty years out. It brings you back together again.

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Speaker 4: It's a reason to gather and.

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Speaker 7: Thanks everyone for listening to Dirty Rush the Truth about

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Speaker 7: sorority life. Hey fraternity boys answering questions about sorority questions.

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Speaker 3: Trusting is see you later.

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Speaker 7: We got to stop doing this show right now. Yeah,