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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything, So don't don't hey, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: leave it all, leave it in. Welcome to the Year Ever?

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Speaker 1: Am I right? Am I right? Isn't it bad? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's not great. I think we just lost a lot

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Speaker 1: of listeners. It's not the best year ever, which is

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Speaker 1: what this podcast would be called if this year wasn't terrible.

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Speaker 1: You know what the best year ever podcast would be

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Speaker 1: is like I feel like like three maybe that's one

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Speaker 1: of the mid Simpsons was really comment like just just

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Speaker 1: hit whatever year the Mono Rail episode came out, and

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Speaker 1: that's got to be the best year ever. Um, just

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Speaker 1: like everybody sort of pretending like everything like everything's fine.

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Speaker 1: R I p R. Mentioned, everyone's going to tell us

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Speaker 1: everything that was fine. Phil Phil Hartman was still on

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Speaker 1: The Simpsons, so we had no problems. Yeah yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's not this year. The year is and there is

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Speaker 1: no but it's just as bad and there's no Phil

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Speaker 1: Harmon left. And today we have a Hodgepodge news smorgas

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Speaker 1: board for your earballs. Yes, sucker up, slip it down,

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Speaker 1: just just guzzle, guzzle this hot, thirsty load of news

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Speaker 1: as it is it as it burbles down your throat,

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Speaker 1: maybe gets backed up into your nose a little bit,

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Speaker 1: regurgitate it. Yeah, we're one pump suff news into your

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Speaker 1: cream and then spit it into your baby birds mouths. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is this not the whole show? It's not. Um, let's

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Speaker 1: start off light. There's never anything like uh COVID. We'll

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Speaker 1: start off by talking about COVID and lightly lightly talking

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Speaker 1: about it. The new the new variant, which Delta heard confirmed,

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Speaker 1: is up here in Oregon. Now it's everywhere, I think

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's anywhere strain in a lot

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Speaker 1: of places. How do they decide the names of these things?

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Speaker 1: How do they decided to Delta? Because I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's just bad pr for the airline, Like, what's the

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Speaker 1: like have nothing to do with if you're going variant.

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Speaker 1: If you were going to name a deadly plague variant

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Speaker 1: after an airline, you would go with Spirit. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. The Spirit variant is tearing through the American Southeast,

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Speaker 1: um or like Virgin Atlantic, Yeah, the Virgin Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to catch that. Um sorry, I got the Branson started

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Speaker 1: naming me on the gates and the bezos. There there

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Speaker 1: was a better branding for the coronavirus that would have

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Speaker 1: made people uh more wary of I mean it hurt

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Speaker 1: so Corona beer. Did you say dirty martinis? What did

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Speaker 1: you start skirting health mandates and things like sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: whatever you just said that could Yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: start off by saying is that if you're vaccinated, you've

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Speaker 1: got very good protection against it. That hasn't changed, um

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Speaker 1: as far as they can tell. Yeah, that seems still

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Speaker 1: true and so but there's a real risk, of course,

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Speaker 1: as always to those of us who have chosen to

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Speaker 1: remain unvaccinated, which is about half Yeah, the country, we're

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Speaker 1: about uh people vaccinated at this point. And it's almost

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Speaker 1: the same as Biden's new approval rating. That really is

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Speaker 1: new approval rating. Well, you know these are the ship

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Speaker 1: fluctuates all the time, like it's not, but yes, the

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Speaker 1: most well one of the most recent, so the one

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Speaker 1: of the new because like there's a bunch of different ones.

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Speaker 1: One was doubt, Like he's dropped points among Democrats and

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Speaker 1: risen like eight points among Republicans, which is bizarre, but

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Speaker 1: well we should probably maybe we can do this next week.

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Speaker 1: We should probably do a comprehensive look at um how

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Speaker 1: he's how he's doing in the polls and one Americans like,

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Speaker 1: fans of Joe Biden. Some of us actively despise him.

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Speaker 1: Most of us actively despise him. I don't know. We're

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Speaker 1: important from time to time to take like a step

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Speaker 1: reacting to his plans, Like what's popular, what's unpopular? What

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Speaker 1: You know, it's what happens with presidents, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look But yeah, I mean we're six months

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Speaker 1: benefiting from the whole. Thank god Trump is out anymore. Really,

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Speaker 1: take more vaccines, steal as many vaccines. Feel whatever hospital

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Speaker 1: matter which vaccine or what is for. It doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to be a COVID vaccine, any any vaccine will help.

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Speaker 1: Just drink straight smallpox. It works the same. That's break

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Speaker 1: into a level three bio hazard lab and just drink

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Speaker 1: anything you find. It will make you stronger. Um. But

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Speaker 1: today there's a big uptick in COVID, particularly in the South, UM,

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Speaker 1: And it changes quickly. I mean, here's this is from CNN.

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Speaker 1: things change. We know, we lived through the last year

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Speaker 1: not pot should be legal, which is why it's so baffling.

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Speaker 1: No one's done that yet. But anyway, should we have

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Speaker 1: we should have named it virus, the critical race theory

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Speaker 1: maybe something like that would be better. Comy comy virus. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I think the point, the real point is get vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: Israel earlier, so that was nice. Yeah, it's nice of

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Speaker 1: one and and did contribute to why nine eleven was successful,

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00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: is that there's shitty information sharing between them. Right, There's

427
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: other reasons. It's not just competition. There's reasons of like

428
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Speaker 1: what are you allowed to share and like what sort

429
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Speaker 1: of different systems are in place for Like there's there's

430
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of just sort of structural stuff, right, like,

431
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised to see that on here. Um,

432
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: there's obviously concerns because like, what does it mean about

433
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: what kind of we We never really know what kind

434
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: of information is being gathered about the average citizen by

435
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Right. We all remember when like Snowdon came

436
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: out with his leaks and a bunch was revealed about

437
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: what the n s A had been doing. So I

438
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: anyway that that that it's not surprising to see that

439
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: on there. You should always be concerned when you hear

440
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: that kind of language. I also think it is kind

441
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: of a cheap excuse because again, it's not like you

442
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 1: needed a great deal of information sharing for the Capitol

443
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Police to know what was being planned because I found

444
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: it out. And you may notice I am not a

445
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agency. I'm I'm a guy with Google.

446
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Like that's all I used to find out this Google. Yeah,

447
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: it's not I mean they do, um, I know, I

448
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: know yea. So the other priority was preventing recruitment by

449
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: extremist groups. Again, you know, when when Islamic terror was

450
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: the big boogeyman, they would talk about this a lot.

451
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: They're they're never good at it. I don't think they

452
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: ever will be good at it. I don't think they're

453
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: capable of being good at it because they fundamentally don't

454
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: understand in a lot of cases, what why these groups

455
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: what recruitment means. There's still I think a lot of

456
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: this idea that it is. It's very direct. It's the

457
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: way that you would have, like, you know, the way

458
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: people tended to think it worked back right after nine eleven,

459
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: where you've got these centralized organizations like recruiting people to

460
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: carry out centralized attacks, and that's not how a lot

461
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: of domestic extremism works now. It's it's stochastic. You know,

462
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: there are people within these agencies who do understand that.

463
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a lot of power. But

464
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: also it's a question of I don't I don't know

465
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Speaker 1: how they could with all of the resources they have.

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you actually, as the FBI or whatever,

467
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: could stop the kind of recruitment that exists, because how

468
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: do you stop people from winding up falling down these

469
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: internet rabbit holes that lead them to believe the white

470
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: races being genocided and they should shoot up a mosque? Right? Like? What?

471
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: How what does prevention of that look? Like no one

472
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: really knows. There are theories people have possible task, but

473
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Speaker 1: I don't think that there's a blanket answer for one way,

474
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: one thing or another in the community. It depends on this. Yeah,

475
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's to be honest again, and I am talking.

476
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're talking right now because we're talking about

477
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: how these agencies are looking at things, how the government

478
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: is looking at things from a perspective of if you

479
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: believe there should be federal law enforcement, right, if you

480
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: believe these organizations should exist, is there anything they can

481
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: do to stop that kind of recruiting. I don't actually

482
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: know that there is, um because I tend to think

483
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: most of the problems that lead these groups to be

484
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: able to recruit, that lead to this kind of propaganda

485
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: having an impact are structural problems in our society that

486
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: make people vulnerable to these kinds of messages. And no

487
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: matter how much power you give the FBI, they're never

488
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: going to be able to deal with that unless you

489
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: give the FBI the power to give everyone in healthcare,

490
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: which happen. Not only do they not have the power

491
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: to do that, they wouldn't want to do that. Yeah,

492
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to do that obvious. Yes, I don't

493
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: think they can do that. I think, yes, of course

494
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: they want to prevent recruitment. I don't think even if

495
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: they understand fully and there are individuals within these organizations

496
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: who do have a good understanding of how this recruitment works,

497
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's anything they can do to

498
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: really stop it. Um, then you have investigating these groups,

499
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, the groups doing the recruiting, and confronting the

500
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: long standing drivers of domestic terrorism racism and bigotry. I

501
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: am happy to see that put in there. It's the

502
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Speaker 1: most direct statement you kind of see in this document

503
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: stating that the primary drivers of domestic terrorism are racism

504
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: and bigotry. Now, there's some waffling later on about what

505
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,239
Speaker 1: kind of racism and what kind of bigotry which is

506
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: a problem. Um that said, Um, again, you're you're looking

507
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: at another thing that federal law enforcement can't confront racism

508
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: and bigotry as as problems like the FBI again will

509
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: never be able to have there not be bigotry. That's

510
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: not number one. Never what they've been able to do. YEA, yes,

511
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: it is, including the FBI has released some of actually

512
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Speaker 1: some of the better reports we have about the extent

513
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: of supremacist infiltration of local law enforcement. Staton and local

514
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: law enforcement are FBI reports, so they're very aware of

515
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the problem within law enforcement. I think they're less aware

516
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: of the problem within the FBI. But also again you

517
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: can you can write reports on it, which I guess

518
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: is again it's good that there's some sort of watchdog

519
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: for the police writing this ship they don't have a

520
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: great record of doing anything about it, you know, like

521
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: they don't have a great record of actually stopping for example,

522
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: they can write a bunch of reports saying, hey, there's

523
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: a shipload of white supremacists and local police less you know,

524
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: right now, the city of Portland is in like contempt

525
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: of federal law enforcement because, um, they're violating federal law

526
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: with all of the use of force against particularly UH

527
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: mentally uh ill people and UH and houseless people. Um,

528
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: and they're in a bunch of trouble, and the federal

529
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: government has been threatening them because they have not brought

530
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: up to state that like years ago they were like

531
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: they were told you need to do these things, and

532
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: they did none of them. And they're basically just saying,

533
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Fire all of the cops

534
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: in Portland, and so far the FEDS have been like,

535
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do. Like so again,

536
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: they say these are all the things that we need

537
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: to do, and I guess, broadly speaking, they're not wrong. Yes,

538
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: if you want to stop domestic terrorism, you prevent uh

539
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: recruitment by extremist groups, you investigate the groups, You confront

540
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: the things that drive domestic terrorism, which is racism and bigotry.

541
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't think federal law enforcement can do any of that.

542
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they have that power. I think even

543
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: in the best case scenario, right, they just can't. It's

544
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: just not the they're they're not able to do that.

545
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: They're pretty good at I mean they're not even They're

546
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: not even great. They're not even as good as you

547
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: want to at. Like for example, on the sixth, somebody

548
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: was placing pipe bombs outside the d n C and

549
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: the RNC headquarters. They didn't catch that guy, and I'm

550
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: pretty sure that guy's a fed UM former or current

551
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: because from the footage that we have, the individual knew

552
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: how to address themselves in order to not be visible. UM.

553
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: They constructed function in weapons and more to the point,

554
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: they knew exactly where the cameras were, and they made

555
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: sure that they were not filmed in a way that

556
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: would possibly give them away. They were very very smart

557
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: about that. They have not been caught. They have somebody

558
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: that um I said, if they're not a fed, they

559
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: have are connected to them to have information. And there's

560
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: a very probably a purposeful reason why they have not

561
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: been caught. Whoever that was was very competent. So again,

562
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: if they can't catch that, how are they going to

563
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: deal with like structural problems in American society? You know,

564
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: they can't. They won't. So with everything I've just said,

565
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: you understand why. I think it's kind of silly that

566
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: based on these things that federal law enforcement largely cannot

567
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: possibly do in the most ideal world. Um, the administration

568
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: has requested a hundred million dollars in additional funds to

569
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: hire prosecutors, investigators, and analysts. I don't think that's going

570
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: to help. UM. Maybe the analysts, well, you know, having

571
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: more analysts people who are like, you know, looking at

572
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: chatter online and stuff. I don't know how fucking tapped

573
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: those dudes where I'm sure some of it has been

574
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: a problem, like the Trump administration was very loath to

575
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: have people investigating this stuff, so that that is one

576
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: of more things that that might have some impact. You know,

577
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: they can do some stuff there. Yeah, if you're if

578
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: you and if you're monitoring like social media, there's a

579
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: lot of discernment you need to know like this person

580
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: just like ship posting or is like this is a

581
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: serious thing, like what is Yeah, and like being you know,

582
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: aware of all those communities. Um. And again, to the

583
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: extent that I have in the past, like lectured members

584
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: of these you know, organizations, That's the stuff I lecture about.

585
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: It's not like techniques. I'm not saying, like here's how

586
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: you track, because I number one, I'm not good at that.

587
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain like ship posting. I'm trying to

588
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: explain like the way people fall down rabbit holes and

589
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: get pilled, and like how stochastic terrorism works, um, because

590
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: that is one area where I do think it can

591
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: be useful. So I'm not saying there's absolutely nothing again

592
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: talking about you. We're not going to tear down this system, right,

593
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: certainly Joe Biden is not. So how is there a

594
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: way the system can be made that actually might reduce

595
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: the number of people who get murdered in this way,

596
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: that is something that can help. Is a hundred million

597
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: dollars needed? I don't know. I don't think so. I

598
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: think most of this, I think there's very little that

599
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: will actually be done that will have an effect. Um. Yeah, well,

600
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: and if it does have an effect, it's probably just

601
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: going to be like very civil civil liberties. And that's

602
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: where I wanted to get to because part of this

603
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: is also in these reports, in all of this, this

604
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: these plans and this ship that's coming out, there's a

605
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: huge risk for organizers at protesters. You're very right, and

606
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: I think we'll get to that, um, because that is

607
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: my primary concern. Um. I have concerns that, like, for example,

608
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: at some point, a bunch of fucking seventeen year olds

609
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: breaking Starbucks windows are going to get wrapped up with

610
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: terrorism charges and stuff like that has happened before the

611
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: Green scare was people who were like like fucking up

612
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: logging equipment and ship and doing what in a normal

613
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: world would it most be kind of mild to moderate

614
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: property destruction getting twenty year terrorism sentences. Um. Because because

615
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: the government was really scared of of the Green movement

616
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: you know of of people taking direct action, um, because

617
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: the people who fund the government are scared of that. Um.

618
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: And then you get you know that you start having

619
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: people being surveilled and surveillance being put on. Yeah, even

620
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: like old old lady who is at the capital riot,

621
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: like you're like gonna, you know, go like we have

622
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to feel like that happened to be there as opposed

623
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: to like your example of the person who said, like

624
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: pipe bombs in these places? Yeah, and like where that

625
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: focus goes. Um, we have to take a break, but

626
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: then we'll come back and we'll keep talking about this.

627
00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: Sound good. You know who will not set off pipe bomb? Well,

628
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: no they will not because Raytheon has access to Katie,

629
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: have you heard the good news about Hexagen? I have not.

630
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Now your standard pipe bomb you're gonna be making out

631
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: of probably like smokeless powder or something. Right, basically gunpowder

632
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: makes a big boom. Hexagen, Oh, Katie, Hexagen is like

633
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: if if if the black powder in a normal pipe

634
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: bomb is like a cool like like a Corona beer. Hexagen,

635
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: you're talking like one fifty one rum and that's what

636
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: Raytheon And with hexagen, a pipe bomb you can take

637
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: out the front of a school bus. Hexogen. You make

638
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Speaker 1: sure that school bus is in the atmosphere. You know,

639
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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of Hexagen. So listeners, you know, do

640
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Speaker 1: the right thing the next time you're creating illegal terrorism

641
00:37:51,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: devices and go with raytheon. Well, forget everything. We're back

642
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: and we're talking about domestic terrorism. My favorite kind of

643
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: terrorism of the terrorisms, absolutely the best terrorism. I mean,

644
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Speaker 1: in my opinion. You know, international terrorism is such a

645
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Speaker 1: real drag, I know, and and kind of ghost right, yeah,

646
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: a little bit out of out of season. Right, nobody's

647
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: doing international terrorism anymore. We're all going domestic. Baby. I

648
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: think that the term that the internet influencers are using

649
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: is choog. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's one of those things,

650
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: Katie Cody. You know, we're all more concerned about the

651
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: climate these days. Right, We're shopping local, we're using local

652
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: farms to get our produce, and our terrorism should be

653
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: local too, you know, that's just better for everybody. Yeah,

654
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: keep it local, keep it local, shop local, bomb local, Jesus, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we terrorism guidelines here. Yeah. One of the things that

656
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: concerns me most about this is that UM seventy seven

657
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Speaker 1: million dollars through a Homeland security grant program is going

658
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Speaker 1: to state and local partners to protect against and respond

659
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Speaker 1: to domestic violent extremism. UM. This is potentially potentially a

660
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Speaker 1: significant issue because they really go out of their way

661
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: to both sides every terrorism thing. So they talk about

662
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: the threat of pro pro life extremists who murder a

663
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Speaker 1: murder a significant number of people and who regularly carry

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Speaker 1: out legal attacks um, and then also mentioned pro choice

665
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Speaker 1: extremists as being a problem which you may recognize is

666
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: not a thing, um, a pro choice terrorist attack. Oh,

667
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I just love to find people on both sides and

668
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: the bad people on both sides. Yeah, uh, something like

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Speaker 1: before talking like talking about like far right terrorism and

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Speaker 1: then go to the people who oppose those people and

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00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: who are actively yeah, resisting the people. Yes, maybe maybe

672
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Speaker 1: these organizations should just fund antifa and um yeah take over.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that's a concern to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean one of the so one of the things

675
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: that's good about this, if I'm going to be fair,

676
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: is that at multiple points it talks about it makes

677
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Speaker 1: it very clear that they that white supremacists are the

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Speaker 1: primary threat. UM. There's a line specifically pose an elevated

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Speaker 1: threat to our country one with racially and or ethnically

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Speaker 1: motivated violent extremists, and specifically those who espouse the superiority

681
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Speaker 1: of the white race in the anti government militia, violent

682
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: extremists posing the most lethal threat. Pretty good line, um,

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Speaker 1: pretty reasonable statement. There's another that says, um, the their

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00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: insistence on violence can at times be explicit, it can

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00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: at times be less explicit. Lurking in ideology is rooted

686
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: in a perception of the superiority of the white race

687
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: that call for violence and further into perverse int a

688
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: Borran notions of racial purity or cleansing. Um. But then

689
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: it goes right down to saying that a key component

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Speaker 1: of the threat comes from anti government or anti authority

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Speaker 1: of violent extremists. This significant component today militious. Yeah, that's

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00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: so they're they're they're looping in militias which have carried

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Speaker 1: out carried out a couple of different terrorist attacks. Last year.

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Speaker 1: The militia movement brought us the Oklahoma City bombing. Um,

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00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: and the militia militias are specifically named in the Constitution. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you do have a you do also like that

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Speaker 1: is also a concern right, Like it is one of

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Speaker 1: those things. I mean, I guess most particularly liberals, I

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Speaker 1: think that militia should be illegal. But it's always a concern.

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Speaker 1: I think people don't like, you have a right to

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Speaker 1: be in a militia, which is not like again, a

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Speaker 1: lot of my work has been dealing with the militia

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Speaker 1: movement because it's a problem. But like, you have a

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Speaker 1: constitutional right to be in a militia. That's there's no

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Speaker 1: legal artists there right there, right, they're very clear right

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Speaker 1: to our guns. Yeah, well we get lated militia. But yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: of course there's there is debate about like how that,

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Speaker 1: but you do have a right to be in a militia. Um,

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Speaker 1: you don't have a right to attempt to co adapt

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Speaker 1: the governor of Minnesota, Um, I'm the constitutions throw this

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Speaker 1: out that the birth of this nation was allegedly, uh

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Speaker 1: explicitly anti authoritarian. Yeah again right like it. And that

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Speaker 1: that's what concerns me because immediately after they talk about militias,

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Speaker 1: they talk about um anarchist, violent extremists who violently opposed

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Speaker 1: all forms of capitalism, corporate globalization, and government institutions which

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Speaker 1: they perceive as harmful to society. And that is listed

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Speaker 1: as a threat right above sovereign citizen violent extremists who

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Speaker 1: have killed more cops than any other group of extremists

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Speaker 1: um and in fact, repeatedly, when police themselves are question

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Speaker 1: over who scares the most, sovereign citizens always top the

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Speaker 1: list because they, especially during traffic stoff, they shoot a

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Speaker 1: buckload of cops. It happens a bunch, um. You may notice,

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Speaker 1: no anarchist like Portland's We've had a lot of people

724
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: throw ship at cops. We've had even a couple of malatabs.

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Speaker 1: Not a single Portland police officer has been killed or

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Speaker 1: severely injured. Um. Because for whatever criticisms you want to

727
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: make of the anarchist movement here, they don't want to

728
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: murder people, whereas like four cops were killed by boogaloo

729
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Speaker 1: types last year. Yeah yeah no, it's uh, like I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, it's important always be skeptical of this kind

731
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Speaker 1: of thing in general, um and giving an these organizations

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Speaker 1: more power um and validation. The shift over the past

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Speaker 1: like four years or so of after after Trump of

734
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Speaker 1: being like we fucking love the FBI, Now we freaking

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Speaker 1: love the FBI, the CIA. We've fucking shower me with

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Speaker 1: whatever Um, that's an issue. But but then like to

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Speaker 1: see it like they're they're just like explicitly being like, well, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: we're going after everybody. Anybody goes like capitalism or authority,

739
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: like all these kind of stuff. It's there permission to

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Speaker 1: crack down on anything and everything. Yeah, it's it's a mix. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think what it is is it's it's at the

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Speaker 1: highest level, it's cravenness and a desire not to be

743
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: seen as playing sides and not to make the right

744
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Speaker 1: wing angry. And at the level of implementation, what that

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Speaker 1: means is it's created a justification to crack down on

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Speaker 1: the left. Um, that's what I think we're seeing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but to an extent it doesn't because seventy seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars of this funding is going to local programs

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Speaker 1: to combat violent extremism, and all of that effort is

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Speaker 1: going to be focused on the left. They don't give

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00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: a shit about the Proud Boys. You know, I've watched it, um,

752
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Speaker 1: and that is concerning UM. One of the good things

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00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: here is that they list in voluntary celibate violent extremism

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Speaker 1: as a problem UM as a is a lethal problem,

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Speaker 1: which it absolutely is one of the biggest drivers of

756
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: deadly domestic terrorism attacks in recent past. The problem with

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00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: that is that they list it um alongside other domestic

758
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: terrorists motivated by violence, like other single issue ideologies, which

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00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: they list abortion, which if they're saying pro life, yes,

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00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: that is an equivalent threat. They also list animal rights

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Speaker 1: and environmental single issue extremists, which don't murder people. Certainly

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00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: not and nearly there have been I think maybe a

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Speaker 1: couple of accidental injuries and deaths, but like not nearly

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Speaker 1: the same thing. It's not. Yeah, you know, environmental activists

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Speaker 1: are planting busses into crowds. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure that

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00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: you're like, maybe something accidental has happened, but yeah, that's

767
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: not the ideology of how to affect change that group.

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Speaker 1: Concerned that the Sunrise Movement will start bombing people, That's

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Speaker 1: what I got to keep an eye on the Sunrise movement.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of right alongside this big high

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Speaker 1: level government report. The Foundations for Defensive Democracies report released

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Speaker 1: two dueling reports and domestic extremism, one of them on

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Speaker 1: the far right and white supremacists, and one titled Behind

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Speaker 1: the Black Block on anti fascists and anarchists. Now, the

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Speaker 1: f d D is a ship organization. They're a right

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Speaker 1: wing think tank. What's funny about this is there they

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Speaker 1: cite my research pretty extensively in the in the report

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Speaker 1: the Block, No No No, in the report on white

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Speaker 1: on white supremacists, they cite a significant amount of my

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Speaker 1: work and some other people at Bellycats work. Um. Their

781
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: report on behind the Black Block is just it's complete

782
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: fucking nonsense. Um. For like, so for one thing, at

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Speaker 1: one point in this report they talk about how online

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00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: ideologies right like kind of the expressions of violence that

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00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: that people make before doing a physical attack can lead

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Speaker 1: to physical violence. And there are two examples of that

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00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: are the christ Church shooting, right, which is a fine

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00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: example of of of like ideology and rhetoric leading someone

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00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: to carry out a fatal attack. Um. They equivocate that

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00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: to a guy breaking windows on a police car. Um.

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00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: They mentioned them in the same as two examples of

792
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: the same thing. And you may notice a window is

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00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: not fifty people being shot to death. UM. I would

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00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: call that ridiculous and and even blatantly offensive. The report

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Speaker 1: includes as examples of left wing terrorism and arson attack

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Speaker 1: on a police station in Portland I was physically there.

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00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: I watched that quote unquote attack go down. And what

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00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: happened was somebody dragged a trash can fire and shoved

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Speaker 1: it against the plywood of a beauty salon that was

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Speaker 1: attached to a police station, and then thirty members of

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00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: the crowd put the fire out. Um. I wouldn't call

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00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: it an arson attack. I guess you could. You can argue,

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00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: and one person it has gotten convicted of arson for that.

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00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: But what actually happened was the crowd stopped the fire. Um.

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Speaker 1: And furthermore, no significant damage was done, no life's were

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Speaker 1: ever threatened. It is interesting, as our researcher Garrison points out,

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Speaker 1: that they do not mention the Third Precinct in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: being burnt down. Um, possibly because they know that most

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Speaker 1: Americans can think that that was a more or less

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Speaker 1: righteous attack um and utterly justified, and they know what

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Speaker 1: makes them look bad. Um And yeah, and then yeah,

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00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: it is weird, right, because all that happened at that

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Speaker 1: Portland attect was literally some plywood got charted, like literally,

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Speaker 1: some plywood got charged. That's the extent of the damage.

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Speaker 1: Whereas the Third Precinct is gone. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty blatant. Yeah. Did you guys see

817
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: uh this this new piece from Ken Cliftonstein on the Intercept. Yeah,

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00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: US military training documents say socialists represent terrorist ideology. Basically,

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Speaker 1: there was a section in the training document called study Questions,

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Speaker 1: and the question was anarchists, socialists, and neo Nazis represent

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Speaker 1: which terrorist ideological category? The answer was political terrorists, and

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Speaker 1: I would say none, none, and then political maybe would fail.

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Speaker 1: I would fail. Um. Shocking and frustrating thing to come

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Speaker 1: out at the same time, not shocking. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I hat about, like the terrorist organization Democratic Socialists

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Speaker 1: of America when they stop people with busted tailights and

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Speaker 1: uh and replace those busted tailights for people, um so

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Speaker 1: that they don't get pulled over, yeahs and um all

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Speaker 1: their mutual aid they do, and helping the homeless camps

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Speaker 1: not get sued by police in l A and anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's I I uh in mixes just that that's how

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00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: we're training people. That's how we're um indoctrinating. Uh you know, yeah, no,

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00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: it's this is uh, it's so disgusting actually, um too,

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Speaker 1: like even mentioned those two things, like together with Neo

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Speaker 1: Nazis neo Nazis um. Um. You know. And and another

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Speaker 1: thing that a point that Ken makes in this document

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Speaker 1: is that, you know, during the Trump administration, you know,

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Speaker 1: Democrats expressed a lot of concern uh, you know that

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Speaker 1: national security, it was targeting groups on the left. But

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Speaker 1: all of those concerns and all of that conversation has

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Speaker 1: kind of gone away. You know, the media stopped covering

842
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: it from that angle um. That that that pressure is

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00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: coming off now that Biden is in office, um, and

844
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: that angle um conveniently at a time when all of

845
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: this stuff was coming forward. I don't know, bothers me. Yeah,

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00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: it's not great. A lot of real bad signs. Um.

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Speaker 1: One cool thing that happened recently, because I do want

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Speaker 1: to end this section on a cool thing, is in Portland,

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Speaker 1: the mayor and police just announced that they're no longer

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Speaker 1: going to pull people over from minor traffic and fractions. Awesome, uh,

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Speaker 1: And they're going to reduce the circumstances under which they

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Speaker 1: can search cars, specifically in order to not funk with

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Speaker 1: black people as much. Like that was the stated reason

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Speaker 1: why they're doing it, because they recognize that those kind

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Speaker 1: of searches unfairly impact that segment of the population. So

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Speaker 1: it's actualization that A doesn't need to do the till

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Speaker 1: I think anymore. Yeah, hopefully, Um. I mean, we'll see

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Speaker 1: how it actually works in implementation. But it is one

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Speaker 1: of those things I was hugely surprised to hear it.

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Speaker 1: And if it's the thing like, if I was going

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Speaker 1: to be asked like, what was the number one change

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Speaker 1: I could make that isn't taking away their guns to

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Speaker 1: make cops less dangers, This would be it is reducing

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Speaker 1: because really, most of what you could do, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have cops to make them safer is reduce the

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Speaker 1: amount of interactions they have with the public. And nothing

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Speaker 1: does that more than stopping count stories people losing their

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Speaker 1: lives are being unfairly incarcerated over being pulled over, or

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Speaker 1: you know, cops profiling and using some traffic as an

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Speaker 1: excuse to function up uh and you know, like I

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Speaker 1: don't get a car freshmener hanging from your rear view

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Speaker 1: mirror for example. Any who, that is a positive note

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Speaker 1: to end this on. And I guess the episode because

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it and we're kind of out of

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Speaker 1: time here. Mm hmmm. Do you think the UH Congress

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Speaker 1: is going to pass the People Act. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anything is going to be done to protect voting rights.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything is going to be done at all.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll lose the mid terms. Fun, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be rad Um. I don't know. Uh, should we

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Speaker 1: talk about the fucking New York City MARYL Race for

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Speaker 1: a little bit? Sure, it's happening. How boy Yang has

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Speaker 1: really I'm feeling bad that we were at one point

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Speaker 1: optimistic about Yang being a positive force for political discussion. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's because boy, howdy, he has not been unin not

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Speaker 1: been he's I mean, well, they're doing ranked choice voting, right,

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Speaker 1: they're doing ranked choice voting. Um, that's exciting. That's the

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Speaker 1: first time that they've been doing that. So we will

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Speaker 1: see how that works out. But apparently from a lot

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Speaker 1: of I don't have it in front of me, but

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Speaker 1: the polling and the data suggests that a lot of people, um,

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Speaker 1: particularly uh minority groups have expressed a desire to not

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Speaker 1: choose multiple options and to just go with their picks.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see actually how this works out

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Speaker 1: in implementation. Um, but it is it is a bit

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Speaker 1: of a toss up right now. Um, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: there are no good mayors ever, So there are no

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Speaker 1: good mayors ever. I mean sometimes towns elect dogs to

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Speaker 1: be the mayor, and I think actually that should be

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Speaker 1: the only kind of mayor. If all of our mayors

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Speaker 1: were dogs, I would not have problems with any of

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Speaker 1: the mayors. Visit a place that had the had a

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Speaker 1: cat mayor and uh in Idle Wild, California, they've got

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Speaker 1: a dog mayor. Yeah. See, these are all good, these

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Speaker 1: are all good ideas for mayors. Yeah, I'm not two

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Speaker 1: thrilled with anybody in the race, um, except for I

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Speaker 1: guess Maya Wiley, but she doesn't have you know, she's

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Speaker 1: better than the other. She also has not come out

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Speaker 1: of pro defund the police, but she has committed to

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Speaker 1: taking a lot of money away from the NYPD. Um,

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Speaker 1: but we already did that. And yeah, that's why crime

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Speaker 1: is up everywhere, not just in New York. But it's

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Speaker 1: all based in New York, you know. Yeah. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the races is between Andrew Yang, Eric Adams, and Catherine Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Uh uh for the most part, and they're all you know,

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Speaker 1: Yang would and Catherine would call themselves democrats, but they're

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Speaker 1: a bit more centrist, and we also call himself in

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Speaker 1: New Yorker, right, I don't know about fad Ao. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's sounding like people are kind of rallying

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Speaker 1: around like Eric Adams might be a strong choice, but

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Speaker 1: he's problematic. Um. But we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: He's a wild one. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because he's he's kind of getting so. Yang

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Speaker 1: and Catherine have started campaigning together, um as a strategy

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Speaker 1: for the ranked choice voting. You know, and uh, Eric

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Speaker 1: Adams has come out accused them of you know, not

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Speaker 1: wanting to have a black mayor, but you know, being

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Speaker 1: antime minorities. But Andrew Yang is is Asian. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: all a mess. We'll see. There's a better way to

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Speaker 1: end this section. I just not thrilled with any of

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Speaker 1: these candidates. We could uh end on some. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams is not Yeah, you vote for wherever you

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Speaker 1: want to. What do you gotta do? Um? He plans

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Speaker 1: on retiring. We uh retires. He plans on moving to

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Speaker 1: the Golden Heights. Um, which is interesting when asked. Here's

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Speaker 1: a fun little quote that I'm just gonna read he's

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Speaker 1: asked about the best concert he's ever been to, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield at the Windate Concert Series. At that concert,

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Speaker 1: there was a rainstorm and the lights fell on Curtis

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Speaker 1: Mayfield and they actually paralyzed him at that concert. He

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Speaker 1: died a few years ago. But it was an amazing

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Speaker 1: concert before that happened. Just the favorite concert when oh man,

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Speaker 1: that's literally like the joke of out how was the play?

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Speaker 1: Mrs Lincoln Like, yeah, Adams is uh, you know, a

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Speaker 1: former police chief, police chief commissioner, um, and uh has

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Speaker 1: has said several problematic things in the past during his

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Speaker 1: his time is in the public, um, you know, racially

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Speaker 1: insensitive things. Um. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And he's a Republican, which is also you know, it's

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Speaker 1: wild that he's got such a big, you know, a

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Speaker 1: strong leg to stand on in this race when everyone

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Speaker 1: talks about how liberal New York City is. So those

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Speaker 1: are some things. Yeah, the left is not doing great

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Speaker 1: in New York right now. We'll see what happens in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Well, they defunded the police

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Speaker 1: and then ye, like, I mean, what are you gonna get?

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Speaker 1: You know what are you gonna do ye? All right?

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Speaker 1: I think that does it for us today. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us here at the Worst Year Ever.

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Speaker 1: Um you know, in the next week, I suggest each

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Speaker 1: of you go out and um you know, buy some hexagen.

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Speaker 1: Just just start buying hexagen. Get as much of it

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Speaker 1: as you can. Put it under your your attic, in

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Speaker 1: your basement. Were on these lists, aren't we? Wherever you

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Speaker 1: keep a lot of dry wood to you know, really,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have hexagen, go out of oil soaked

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Speaker 1: rags and dry wood. Keep that, Keep that around the

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Speaker 1: edges of your of your ceiling, you know, make sure

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Speaker 1: you block windows with it. Um good stuff. Just be safe, alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: see you next week. So I tried. Worst Year Ever

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