WEBVTT - 2016 Draft Day LIVE - Round 1 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:07.600 Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:12.280 Bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:17.720 with David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, Cowboys coaches, draft picks, 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:22.799 and special guests. Now your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.120 brought us. Well, we finally come to the day. The 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.800 eighty first annual NFL Draft is about to kick off 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.920 in less than fifteen minutes. Good evening, everybody, and welcome. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.720 We made it. We made it, We made it. Brian 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.599 brought us along with my scouting buddies, Damee Brugler from 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.120 CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman from 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.960 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and as always, Kent Garrison. 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Again where Dallas Cowboys dot Com, folks, 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.040 But we understand the importance of the NFL Draft, and 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:34.199 we appreciate you not only hanging out with us, getting 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.319 our products, just loving the draft. That's what we do, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.800 and we really do love the draft. I did it 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.080 professionally for thirteen years. I miss a lot of this. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.520 I miss a lot of it about it. But this 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:51.200 the Draft Show and doing these reports and stuff. These 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.640 guys treat me like a scout and I appreciate that 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.960 because it keeps me in this game. And I'm really 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.800 excited about what we're about to do and I'm excited 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:00.720 to be doing it with you guys next three days. 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.400 I feel like there's a lot of scorn out there 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.520 for the draft and how much of a thing it 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.799 has become, you know, But I love them, Yeah, us 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.040 three and everybody back home and Kavanaugh and Kevin turn 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.440 all all this enthusiasm and passion. It makes the offseason 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.560 so much more enjoyable. And go so much faster. And 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.120 I mean this is where successful teams are built. Son, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.760 ignore or scoring the draft at your own risk, That's 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.040 absolutely right. Good teams aren't going to do that. This 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.720 is gonna be fun. You know how much have we 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.840 been talking about these players, these prospects, and now we 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.799 get to match them up with teams and talk about fit, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.000 talk about you know, how they will do at the 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.560 next level in terms of just not necessarily speculation anymore, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.480 but actual you know where these guys are going to 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.239 play at the next level. And I can't wait. This 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.120 is gonna be a fun night. I was gonna when 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.480 you when you told me to hold my time my monologue, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.760 I was gonna ask Dane, when did you watch your 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.520 first tape of a twenty sixteen prospect? Probably a week 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.640 after the two fifteen draft, So Dane's working on about 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.519 three hundred and sixty four days fifty one week. Sure 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.639 you Maybember first. The Monday after the Carolina lost. It's 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.320 well documented that when Tony Romo was laying flat on 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.400 the field there at at and T Stadium, made I 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.680 sent I sent the bat signal up to Kat and 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.680 Jeff and I said, meet me at the facility said boys, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.800 and you know what, to everybody's credit, everybody, you know, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.360 they might have been doing their radio jobs or whatever, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.840 but they looked up and they said, okay, we gotta 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.200 get going here, and we and we have this is 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.560 five months and eleven months and three weeks in the 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.040 banking is basically what I was trying to say. It's 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.960 impressive and it's very exciting that we in what I 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.480 mean probably thirty five forty minutes. Yes, we will very 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.640 likely have a new Dallas Cowboy. Not to mention all 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.720 the other intrigue that's coming our way. I could not 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.960 be more excited. I can't either, and I agree with 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.040 you all very much. Up, Okay, we have an idea, man. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.560 Let me. I don't know about you guys, but one 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.400 of the great things of the Twitter and all that 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.040 stuff is that you can get information. You can get it. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.320 You could get a lot of it real fast. The 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.600 problem is you can get information overload, you know, when 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.760 you're trying to figure out we have an idea where 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.920 the first two picks are gonna go. We have that 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.840 it's gonna be the quarterbacks, whatever order. We think it's 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.360 gonna be golf and Wentz are gonna be one two 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.200 San Diego. Let me applaud Tom Tolesco and those guys 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.080 out there. They've done a nice job of making everybody 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.880 feel like they could take anybody on that board. And 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.800 I think if you hold that pick and you and 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.960 you really and I don't think it's confusion. I think 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.400 there's some people out there thinking they don't know what 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.599 they're doing, they don't have an idea, but that you 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.680 know what, if I was in their shoes, I would 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.279 have done the exact same thing. And I would and 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.680 I yeah, and I'm I'm trying, like hell if I'm 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.120 I'm trying to get people interested in my pick. You know, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.400 I'm trying to make you feel like that, hey, I 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.000 could take an offensive tackle. I might not take the 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.120 first offensive tackle. I might take the second offensive tackle. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.120 Then again, I might take a cornerback, a safety I 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.920 might take. You know, I think that is really well 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.760 played on San Diego's part, because, to be honest with you, 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.400 as I sit here right now, I want to believe 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.920 that they're gonna take Buckner a defensive end. I really 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.320 do it. Did mock drafts? How confident do you feel 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.200 though you know what I don't. That's my problem. How 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.000 you could, Yeah, I and I and I think that 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.800 the cowboys and talking to some guys, you know, as 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.120 we before we came on the air, they really don't 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.600 know either. And and and it's the job. And when 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.280 I was in the sky department, it was my job 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.039 to know who was going to be picked. That was 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.799 my job. I took that as a sense of pride, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.960 a badge of honor. And I guarantee I'm talking to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.400 guys about it, and they're like, we just don't know. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.840 We just don't know if they're gonna stand in there 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.000 and make a pick, or we're gonna be picking, or 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.800 they're gonna be or someone's gonna come ahead of them, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.000 or they're gonna make a pick. And to their credit, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.080 I feel like the subterfuge didn't really kick up until 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.560 these trades happened, that kind of putting them in that 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.520 spot where they're the first pick, where you don't really know, right, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.400 I mean, how long were we talking about Rams being 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.240 their guy? I mean, and it was one of those 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.880 you felt really good about it up until they were 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.520 put in this position that they kind of control the 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.240 rest of the top ten. Well, we weren't smoke and 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.800 mirrors ever since. Well, we've we've talked about too, and 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.839 you're absolutely right. Dave Ramsey was a guy that well 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.479 maybe if San Diego doesn't take it, maybe then it 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.080 was like, well Bosa's in there for Dallas and it 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.279 went real strong and then and then all of a sudden, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.560 those trades hit and now you're thinking, well, whoa, maybe 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.200 they can get Jalen Ramsey out of this, out of 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.640 this draft. And I think, you know, we talked about 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.159 this with the Cowboys. It's a unique situation because their 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.800 first round draft board is basically two players. We know 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.000 quarterbacks going one two, so they need two players that 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.160 they have identified as their guys. We'll see who goes 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.560 through to San Diego. You know, the Ronnie Stanley train 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.800 has picked up. It's amazing to me. That's how that's 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.040 how this works. That's always crazy reeks of draft week 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.200 bs to me, I just don't believe it. I think 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.040 it's fun though, I mean it's it's it's nerve racking 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.280 because I'm listening to people say, you know, while they're 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.400 gonna take this guy, this guy, and like I said, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.480 you want to focus in him. Man, they're gonna take 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.279 this guy. I mean, when Jerry Jones asked me a question, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.000 it was like, they're gonna take this is who they're 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.000 gonna take. You know, this is the pick they're gonna 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.640 make because you want to give the best information. And 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.520 I but that Ronnie Stanley thing, you know, I mean 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.640 if with Tunsil, I wonder if it's a situation where 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.360 people are are considering, well, maybe there's some off the 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.600 field stuff there. That things with Kim DJ that we 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.240 heard at the combine when we went all the way 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.240 back there, and like he was with me when I 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.680 was falling out of windows and stuff like that, and 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.080 you know, stepfather's suing him right now. It's bizarre. Yeah, right. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.600 I think I think it's more of a culture thing, 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.600 and you know, a better fit just within you know, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.840 that locker room and that franchise and the culture that 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.120 I think that part weighs heavily, especially when you're picking 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.240 top three. I want to get the person right. And 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.239 so if it is a situation where Stanley is drafted 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.640 ahead of Tounsil, then that has to be it because 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.240 in terms of on field play, there's a huge gap. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.280 There is a huge gap there and there's and even 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.040 to the point the gap where on my top fifty 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.920 I have Jack Conklin ahead of Stanley and you want 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.560 Stanley play and you're like going, okay, there's some softness 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.040 to their game. There's some attitude to his game that's 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.400 not you know, not like a glass eater kind of 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.120 a guy. Where Jack Conklin I'm seeing like a guy 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.880 a glass eater. I'm seeing a tough walk on. He 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.120 cleaned up nice for this draft. Yeah, all the photos 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.440 I've seen of him, he's like sweaty and grimy, like 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.840 you want to tackle to me. But that's all nice 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.280 on the TV show and I don't even recognize And 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.440 that's you know, if we're going on if we're going 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.720 on that, then yeah, maybe he should be. But but 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.360 I think though, like I said, it's amazing to how 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.960 when you get through this process that we've done and 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.640 evaluating these players and how different and how my love 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.640 for Paxston Lynches for you know, for that and some 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.320 people absolutely hate Paxston Lynch and there's love, there's some 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.080 love for Connor Cook, and I think that we all 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.240 agree about, you know. It's just it's it's amazing how 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.400 this it's come to where these players are gonna be 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.760 selected and how these teams view these guys, because there's 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.880 gonna be some times in this from one to two 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:10.040 fifty three when we're talking and I guarantee you're gonna go, man, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.720 I don't know about that one, or you're gonna go, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.040 oh man, what a great pick? Oh yeah? And you know, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.000 and that's where that's the great beauty of the draft. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.840 We don't really know. Yeah, but san Diego has got me, 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.720 and it's and I want to and I want to 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.240 just sit there and believe, Okay, I got this thing wired. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.800 It's it's kind of like like your first instinct is 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.600 the right instinct, right Like when we picked the games 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.200 during the season, you kind of make your pick on Tuesday, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.480 and then you debate with yourself for five more days. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.880 The first one's probably the right one. And that's how 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.600 I I think it'll be Buckner Ramsey. That's how I'm 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.520 kind of feeling right now with San Diego. Absolutely this 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.680 entire way up until this point. And you know, the 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.040 Stanley stuff last night, so I switched it to Stanley 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.480 in my final mock and and this is and this 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.280 is a mock champion right here, my man, here, would 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.400 you have nine of the you had nine nine nine 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.240 last year, which the best I've ever done. Yeah, that's 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.800 I'm saying. I know this guy. There's a lot of 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.200 pride in what he does. Ronnie Stanley is not gonna 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.360 far this fall this far. But it reminds me of 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:14.440 Ryan Nasseib, like everybody was convinced he was always coach 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.200 coached him and the Giants are gonna back up Eli 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.080 with Ryan nass He's the third round pick. All the 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.160 things that we talked about tonight, I did not expect 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.240 Stanley to get to get met you of Ryan Nassim, right, 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.320 that is a hell of a parallel to draw. I mean, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.040 Stanley's is like a top fifteen pick. But sure, if 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.320 he's the third pick, I'll be surprised, like very surprise, 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.079 the first non quarterback that that will be a huge surprise. Okay, 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.679 just now, let's focus a little bit on the Cowboys here. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.360 With the fourth pick. We tried to figure out what 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.240 San Diego is gonna do. We we talked about a 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.440 lot of guys just not really sure the Cowboys have 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.880 in the last two dragon and then I was hearing 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.640 some whispers that they were going to try, they were 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.000 trying to bail, they were trying to get out. Made 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.199 some calls to a group, made a call to five. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.080 No calls yet from the Cowboys. Made a call to seven. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.000 No calls yet from the Cowboys. So usually those are 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.920 things that you're kind of throwing I'm chumming the water, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.680 trying to see if Dallas in fact is moving the pick. 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.240 Five and seven said no, not moving the pick. They 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.720 haven't heard from the Cowboys yet. Cowboys in the last 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.440 two drafts twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen draft, they stayed 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.320 put and made a pick. Do you feel like once 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.600 again they're gonna stand in there and make a pick 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.720 at four? I kind of do. And we touched on 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.800 this earlier in the week with our two other shows. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.480 Is it certainly seems like the trade market, at least 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.240 that high up is cooled a little bit with the 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.800 quarterbacks being presumably off the board on top of that, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.560 and we mentioned it, how far can they trade down 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.920 before they worry about losing on that? And I think, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.320 I mean, this looks like a thin draft at the top, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.360 at least in terms of first round, top sixteen picks 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.080 and so I think they'd just rather have the guy 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.280 that they feel good about rather than worry about maybe 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.160 you're taking going down a significant step. I mean, even 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.360 if you're trading only back to like eight or nine, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.880 who are you missing out on, especially which we think 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.320 it is if it's Jalen Ramsey or Ezekiel Elliot. If 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.880 I'm a Cowboys fan, I think I have a smile 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.760 my face right now because I have a good feeling 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.280 that in an hour either Ezekiel Elliott or Jalen Ramsey 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.400 will be a Cowboy and that makes me feel good. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.400 So if I'm a Cowboy, I'm entering this draft very 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.560 optimistic about how is it going to play out? Yeah, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.840 and as we as we take a look behind us 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.480 here you can't see you. On our camera angle, we 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.840 have a view into the into the Cowboy war room. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.040 They've covered with a gym towel. Yeah, I'm surprised we 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.160 don't have some sponsorship on that right there? I figure somebody, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.440 would you just gave somebody a great idea we need 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.360 we need to get Eagleton. Yeah, we need to get 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.800 some sponsorship on that. Something on that towel. But the 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.319 at but the war room looks looks very quiet from 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.040 what I could see off to the side. Uh, we've 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.080 got to can't tell me. We do have the war 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.760 room cam up for we have the war room cam up. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.120 I just showed it to him. Okay, so towel So 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.680 once a towel is removable, Yeah, there absolutely So. Yeah, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.720 everybody seen that the war room is covered. When we 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.040 get to uh, when we get to the commissioner walking 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.480 up to uh the podium to open the draft, hopefully 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.080 we will get the towel removed and we will see 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.200 Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Uh, Jason Garrett, Will McClay, and 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.160 all the scouts. As I look right, Jerry Jones is 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.959 in the in the draft room. He is ready to go. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:18.000 Um Any any thoughts though about you. You've said this though, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.040 you think it's gonna be one of those two guys, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.880 so and uh, I can't disagree with you on that. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.079 I got that. That's my that's on my top fifty, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.959 that's number two and number three. But you know, in 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.800 flipped order. Uh you know, but we've all along thought 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.840 that Jalen Ramsey has tops on their board. Do you 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.440 think it is possible if both are on the board 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.319 that they will go to the running back. I really don't. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.840 I really don't. I think I want to. I want 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.280 to believe. Now, I think there's some guys in that room. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.640 There's some scouts that I've talked to that think that 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.719 that Jerry really does like that running back that now 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.199 it's gonna be about can he make can he convinced? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.920 Is there enough guys in that room? Jerry is the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.640 final decision maker. What we've learned from him with the 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.080 Manzelle draft was that even though he liked the player, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.520 he allowed the board to take presence over what was 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.480 going on. But do you think and you just said, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.360 this is two and three on your board, right, Yes, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.520 and we've talked about if the tags are touching and 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.760 then preference and need and all that type of stuff 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.000 comes into play. Yeah, well that's something that you like 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.120 to talk about. Though in the top and that Top ten, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.800 maybe you're maybe it's not so much about need, but 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.360 maybe it's about who really is the best player. They 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.800 were talking about that on Monday for their press conference. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.640 You tell me if you think I'm onto something or 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.920 if you think I'm nuts. I really think this decision 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.080 will say a lot about the Jerry and Stephen Jones dynamic. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.240 I think Steven Jones would rather have Jalen Ramsey. I 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.320 think Jerry Jones would rather have Zeke. That's a really, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.360 that's a that's a and I think whatever they want, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.320 assuming both of them are there. I mean, if if 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.440 Ramsey goes off the board quick, then it makes their 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.040 life a whole hell of a lot easier. Yeah. But 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.320 if if if, if Zeke is the pick, I think 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.200 it says a lot that. Yeah, I mean, Jerry thinks 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.440 this is his guy, and he thinks that that they 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.480 can take that next step with him. I think it 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.400 says a lot about the decision making. Yeah, And I 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.400 think what that you know, that the thing that they've done, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.080 And I think that Will McClay has done a really 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:17.600 nice job of this is focusing the group, not allowing 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.400 and some of the things, some of the pitfalls that 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.680 we had in in the early two thousands when I 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:26.000 was in that room were too many voices, too many outside. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.160 You know, if you could get to Jerry last, maybe 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.600 you could get your guy you know, on the board, 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.080 getting you know, influence him. I think that Will has 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.600 done a really nice job of pulling this group together. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.640 I don't think we're going to see what happened with 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.560 Sharif Floyd and that two drafts ago. You know, when 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.600 all of a sudden, here's the fifth best player on 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.480 their board, they're not taking him, They're eighteen. All of 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.720 a sudden, there's some confusion. It's trade back, you know, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.520 and all that stuff. So I think that they really 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.440 are honed in on what this pick is going to 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.800 be and there and waiting on san Diego to make 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.920 the pick ahead of it. From everything that we have heard, 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.920 doesn't it kind of seem like everybody's on the same 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.120 page in the sense that whoever it is, be it 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.479 Jalen Ramsey, be it Ezegil Elliott, it seems like everybody's 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.080 on board with it being one of those two guys. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.800 It's not like this. I don't get the vibe that 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.840 this is a divided organization. I think, you know, they 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.840 got to choose somebody, and either option seems pretty appealing 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.440 to that. Well, the one thing the Cowboys have been 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.040 able to do in these last several drafts has been 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.760 able to hit on first round players. Yep. And you know, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.720 with the exception of what we've seen with mclaiborne. You know, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.120 as far as what they gave and what they thought, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.480 you know, they've done a nice job of getting talent. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.240 Now it's about getting that talent. But as we go 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.800 through this draft, also adding that second round or if 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.200 they go back up in the draft, but the second round, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.520 third round, fourth, n they got a bunch of early 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.040 picks here to make that happen. And that's the key, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.400 as they picked very early in each round and that's 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.080 very valuable, especially on Day two, day three. So it's 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.680 going to take a lot for them to use those 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.160 pick it package up. So if we do see a trade, 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.560 they must really love the player to give up those picks, 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.960 right right, I'm and to I mean, to your point, 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.240 the second, third, fourth round picks, I'm fascinated if they 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.560 do pick Zeke And for the millionth time, I'm a 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.679 big Zeke fan, I'm fine with that. It's not a 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.160 position of need and so that leaves you way more 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:20.520 work to do. I mean, if you take care of 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.600 Jalen Ramsey, you got a great player at a spot 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.040 where you need a starter. Okay, and uh we're starting off, well, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.320 we're gonna we're getting ready to can't just let me 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.720 cue me up though. Are we gonna hear the commissioner 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.119 open the draft? Is that something we're gonna go to 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.040 when he when he goes to the uh to the podium. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.680 Here we'll see about that kid's working on something right now. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.879 But uh, we're getting close to uh, the the eighty 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:51.200 first NFL Draft being opened by Commissionery Goodell. Uh, we've 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.840 we've thought all along that the quarterbacks are going to 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.600 be the guys. It's actually something a point I'm meant 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.119 to make. I mean, you look, it looks like the 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.800 warm room is kind of filling up now you can 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.640 kind of see behind the towel, but it I mean, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.600 both of these picks appear to have been made, the 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.960 Rams and the Eagles, and right Goff followed by Wentz. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.920 I think most people expect that to happen. How long 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.720 do you expect these guys to hang on these picks? Yeah, 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.439 you know, I mean the Rams are gonna turn their 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.720 cards in thirty seconds, and I mean they're gonna weld 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.000 this thing down. We're gonna have some drama. We're gonna 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.159 let TV talk about their uh, their the picks and 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.439 who you know. I think the Rams, the Rams have 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.720 known all along since they made this trade, you know. 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.040 That's that's the thing about it. So we'll be here 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.240 we go though. We're gonna get uh. We're gonna get 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.800 the commissioner I believe is uh at the podium and 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:46.959 so KNT can we pull that up? Okay? So in 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.080 our headphones there we heard the commissioner to say we 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.879 can hear it. There we go, Here we go, Yay. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.119 There it is draft. It is draft time. Against all odds, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.480 there we go. So the the the draft aft is 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.880 officially opened. I've got to be careful here. We got 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.919 this little bit of delay on the from TV to 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.520 what we're doing. But we'll try and we'll try and 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.920 stay together. Here. We've got about eight different types of 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.160 feeds going everything, and I going on to think any 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.360 of them are SYNCD up. So yeah, it'll be fun. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.600 Jared Golf pick for the Rams. Excited about that. He's 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.080 one of your top quarterbacks. He is the top quarterback 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.880 in his draft and you kind of talk a little 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.119 bit about him. In fact, if if he is the 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:31.920 pick for the Rams, well I think he makes a 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:33.919 lot of sense for the Rams. Obviously they gave up 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.880 a lot to go up to that number one selection 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.600 get their quarterback. It's what they needed. They're missing that quarterback, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.639 and so in order to stay relevant in order to 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.159 get to that next level as a franchise, especially moving 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.520 to Los Angeles, they needed that fresh face. And I 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.359 think Jared Goff can be that guy. And now is 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.359 he He's not prototypical in several areas. Doesn't have that 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.240 power arm, good enough arm, not a power arm, a 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.440 little leaner than you want, two hundred and fifteen pounds 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.040 for a six or four frame. But he's a player 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.320 that from a mental standpoint, Hey, he understands his natural 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.480 feel for the game. You understand situations. You know, you 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.560 watch him the way he can throw receivers, opening that 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:14.640 passing anticipation, you know. La. We'll see if they use 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.280 all eight minutes here left to pick, but I do 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.080 think it will be Jared Goff, and I love the fit. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.000 And he's in a situation where case keenum he can 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.280 start if he needs to, right, Jared Goff doesn't have 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.280 to start from day one, but I do think he 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.120 has the talent to start very early in his career. Yeah, 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.560 And I want to just echo some of the thoughts 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.600 about about Jared Goff. He was this my second favorite 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.520 quarterback on the board, had him the tags touching right there. Uh. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.040 You know, history will say whether I'm right or wrong 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.000 about him, but never been a fan of the guy. 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.680 Yeah you me, Yeah, not to the point. Well, I 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.159 mean I said some positive things about him, you know, 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.920 I mean I but I have him his number, I 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.280 have Lynch his number seven. Shoot me straight right here. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.840 If you were the GM, if you were less sneed, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.520 would you be drafting Paxston Lynch right now? I probably 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.600 would have number one. Yeah, okay, I probably would just wondering. Yeah, 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.280 And that's but you know, that's that's just my sure. 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.680 If they if they need, if they need it, if 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040 they you know, with the quarterback needs and all that, 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.800 I think there's some you know, Dane was even talking 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.680 about not having play. Okay, we have war room cam 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.040 up and it looks like that everybody is in position 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.639 right now. That would be if you on your screen 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.239 as you look at it. Chris Hall is sitting at 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:32.160 the long haired yeah, far far right, at the very bottom, 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:36.479 next to Will McClay. Uh, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones standing 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.160 up right now to take some pictures with some Texas 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.239 State Lottery lottery folks. So yeah, how cool is that? 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:44.720 If you win that thing, you get to go in 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.520 there and they they're all nice to you, and you 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.080 get to see the war room and that's funny. All 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.040 the scouts are sitting there looking at each other like, okay, 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.320 are we going to draft any time soon? Here? So 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.960 if I if I walked in there, they would pelt 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.040 garbage at man. Yeah, but these guys get to take 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.320 photos with Jerry and as we and as we uh, 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.000 as we focus around, like I said, will McClay next 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.720 to it, will be next to Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.679 has middle chair Charlotte Jones Anderson to his right with 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:14.000 between him and Jason Garrett. That's interesting. Now here we go. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:16.600 The guy that just sat down next to Jason Garrett 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:21.040 is Gary Brown, who coaches running backs for the Dallas Cowboys. Wow, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.640 that is very interesting. To be able to run the football, 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.760 so we'll be able to Let's let's like that's something 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.760 very interesting right now as you look at war room camp, 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:35.960 Gary Brown, he is Jason Garrett just pounded him on 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.440 the chest. So this is that is fascinating. Yeah, right there, 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:42.920 you just caught a very interesting glimpse that it looks like. 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.200 And if if, if I'm going to read this right, 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:50.480 Ezekiel Elliott, um could very well be your pick here. 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.119 I'm not trying to be dramatic. I mean, who nahell 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.639 knows what they're gonna do, But typically the position coach 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.240 of the guy they're gonna draft comes in chats before 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.560 they make the pick. Yeah, is what typically happened. They 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:04.560 just they just tip their hand. Pretty pretty interesting. I'm 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:06.720 not gonna sit here and say that definitely means their 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.720 drafting Zeke. But if you're a Zeke guy, that's you 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.400 have to feel good that we have anything to see 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.520 we haven't seen. We haven't seen Greg Jackson or Joe 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.000 Baker in the room yet, so that that might be uh, 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.760 it might be very interesting, uh bit of So for 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.920 all you Zeke Elliott fans, uh, this could be. This 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.400 could be very much the pick. The Rams are still 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.240 on the clock. They have five minutes and ten seconds 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.440 to go, uh and then they will have to make 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.720 their pick. We all think it's gonna be Jared Golf, 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:44.720 the quarterback from Cal but just fascinate right off the bat, 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.960 we wore room Cam just gave you a bit, a 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:50.200 little bit of a glimpse of what's going on something else, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:54.040 And I hate speculating, but there's a video going around 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.600 now on Twitter. Oh I was, I was unsure if 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.320 we needed to bring that up. I was, I mean, 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.959 that's that is, that is uncharted territory. Brian, have you 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:04.240 have you seen this? No? I have not. I have not, 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.560 So there is a go ahead. There's a video, a 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.240 thirty second video of Laramie Tounsil. It certainly appears to 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:12.840 be Laramie Tounsl. It does look like him and smoking 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:17.119 a bong attached to a gas mask and very ironic timing. 0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:21.280 His account put it out and then quickly deleted it. 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.880 And now it's all over Twitter. Oh no, and when 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:26.800 I mean, I don't know what to think about that. 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:32.359 But his stepfather's suing him right now. That's bizarre, and 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.719 I wonder, well, there's some teams that have had some 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.200 concerning are we about to see a big slip from 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.200 this guy? Honestly, though, the two old miss players, if 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.440 you think about it, Kim Dja and Tounsil. If that's 0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.280 in fact the k so this video could be two 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.639 years old. I mean, you never know, you never know. 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:54.240 It's just it's very ironic the timing here. Yes, And honestly, 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.440 I will say, if these teams did their research worth 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.840 a lick, then that video should not surprise them, right. Um. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.880 Robert Candici brought up the fact that Tunsel was at 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.320 his party at the combine, Right, So this this shouldn't 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.399 be news to you. But it is very interesting that 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.840 this video popped up on the internet as people are, 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.639 you know, taking their seats in the auditorium, as this 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.760 whole thing's about to get underway. Certainly makes you kind 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.000 of wonder, doesn't maybe San Diego isn't interested in maybe 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.880 they do San Diego all along. I mean, we've kind 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.000 of thought they're gonna take an office to tackle the 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.399 whole thing with Stanley, you know, do you know? And 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.119 that's the and that's really the disadvantage that we we 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.879 do have evaluating these players is you look at the tape, 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:38.680 you make, you put your grade up on the tape, 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.560 and then all these all these you know, things happen 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.600 and you never know to be fair to the people 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.520 who know things. Um, what I've heard about Stanley is 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.040 what makes him appealing is that he's like a Byron Jones, 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.800 boy scout type of guy. So maybe he's not as 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.840 good as Tounsel, but he's not gonna get you in 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.360 any headlines that you don't want to be a part 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.280 of either. Okay, the Rams still on the clock too, 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.760 forty five Jeff Fish or feel free to hand that 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.320 card and you get ten minutes in the first round. Right. 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.760 They've known who this was going to be for two weeks. 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.680 It's hilarious to me that it takes them eight minutes 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.879 to come to this conclusion. Well, the Rams, this is 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.200 the worst kept secret in the NFL. But the Rams 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.240 have been doing the NFL a favor by not tipping 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.040 who they're taking, by saying, oh, we only like both guys. 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.160 We're gonna do some more research on both. But they 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.840 know who they're taking. They're they're keeping intrigue for ratings. 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:25.800 Yeah now, and then they're doing a nice job of 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.399 it too. I'm just fascinated though, by you know, I 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.119 don't think we've ever now my own experience that we 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.320 talk about things that come up. The day of the 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:38.000 draft was part of a draft with Warren Sapp and 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.480 the drug rumors. The day of the draft and Ron Wolf, 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.800 the general manager of the Packers at time. I'll never 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.520 forget him picking up the phone minutes before the draft 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.840 is about to roll and he hits the button to 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:53.200 the league office and just starts just going off on, Hey, 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.640 how can you put this information out now? How can 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.560 you do this? How can you do that? So unfortunate 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.800 though for tounsl if in fact this really really is 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.080 the case for him. So it looks like Jeff Fisher's 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.560 on the phone with the quarterback that they will be drafting. Well, 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.280 let's see if he, in fact is is talking to anybody. 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.239 They'll probably pay into a picture and we'll see if 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.880 Golf four wins is on the phone. But we all 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.080 believe though, this will pick will be Jared Golf, the 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.880 quarterback from cal uh and uh and like you said, 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:28.200 Dane Fates of the franchise, Yeah, California, Los Angeles, keep 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.439 him in California. A player who you know, will he 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.800 ever be on the Andrew Luck level in terms of 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.439 star quarterbacks, Probably not, but he can be, you know, 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.919 better than a Matt Ryan or that type of player. 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.639 A guy that can help you compete for the playoffs 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.400 if he can in division, if he can be better 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.359 than Matt Ryan, that's all. You gotta take him at 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.040 number one. Yeah, I mean Matt Ryan, and we all 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.159 believe that he is going to be the pick. We 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.920 I mean we this is all. And when when that 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.159 looks like the pick is in, So we'll try and 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.159 see when the commissioner makes his way to the podium. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.200 We're on a little bit of a delay here ourselves, 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.879 so we'll try and make sure that we bring that 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.240 to you. But Ken Garrison already doing a great job 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.119 of getting us lined up, set up and all that stuff. 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:23.320 So here we go. I don't think we were okay, 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.040 we thought we were product. Yeah, I was gonna say, 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.600 mister Goodell does not appear to be at the put. 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.320 We'll get we'll get it. We'll get this one. Get it, 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:32.840 we'll get we'll get it. We're gonna be here for 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.199 twenty Yeah. Like I say, it's it's difficult when you're 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.160 trying to get everything kind of lined up here and 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.240 all and all done the right way. But it's like 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.880 you said, Jared golf quarterback from cal should be this pick. 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.080 Uh you know, it's uh it's nice to uh it's 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.720 nice to, like I say, to be here and have 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.600 this uh have this draft going on, let's talk about 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.480 him with in comparison to say, the guys last year, 0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.840 you know Dane somebody. Well, here here we go. I'm 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.240 sorry the commissioner. They're showing it. Let's see if he won. Fact, 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:10.680 then here comes Commissioner Goodell with the pick. Got a 0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.080 new entrance. Oh, hamm it up, Roger, I like it. 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.600 With the first pick in the two thousand and sixteen 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:27.720 NFL draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Jared Goff Boom, California. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.760 And there it is, Jared Goff. You said, the worst 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:35.160 kept secret in the surprise it has surprised ever And yeah, 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.560 it's it's it's a good pick. It's what the Rams 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.920 traded up for. It's the first time since nineteen seventy 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.280 five that cal has had the number one overall pick 0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.920 in the NFL draft. That was Steve Barkowski Atlanta Falcons. Uh. 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.960 Another another note, that was Lee Steinberg's first client. Yeah, 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.600 that's that's yeah, that's the first That's the client that 0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.560 launched Lee Steinberg to his career as a sports age 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.920 Jerry McGuire exactly. Alex Smith has had a pretty good career, 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:09.720 but it should have been Aaron Rodgers. Well, what's so 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.400 funny about that is that funny Mike McCartney, who's now 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.760 the coach at Green Bay is was on the staff 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.920 at the forty nine Ers when they picked Alex Smith. 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.160 So I mean asking that question he kind oft as 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.600 they had on one two his digs in about that 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.920 from time to time. And this is for the Rams. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.000 This is the just the second time they drafted a 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.680 quarterback in the first round, uh, hitting their franchise, So 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.720 first time with Sam Bradford. Uh And so hopefully it 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.760 works out a little better this time around for the Rams. 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.000 But you know he's going to an offense that you 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.720 look at the receivers, average set of receivers with guys 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.760 like Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, Kenny Britt. But it's what's 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.479 in that backfield that you know, gives me a lot 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.120 of excitement for Jared Goff handing off to Todd Gurley 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.959 at twenty twenty five times a game. To have that 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.440 crutch as a young player, Uh, that that's outstanding. So 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.120 you look at the Rams back to back years in 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.440 the first round, two top ten picks to get Girley 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.240 and Golf, that's a pretty good two year haul. Yeah, 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.080 and the and the and the rams. I can say, 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.280 you know, there's there's never It's it's funny when you 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.600 watch them on tape. Defensively though, you know that that 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.320 front seven, I mean they're gonna have to do some 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.120 retoul and though on the linebackers Lara and Yeah, but 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.400 Aaron Donald we've talked about. Yeah, we've talked about those guys, 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.520 A bunch and draft big Guy. Big Guy and I 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.720 had a debate here yesterday evening. Dan, I think you 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.520 were gone by that point. Uh. If if this is 0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:39.800 twenty fifteen, golf goes where in relation to Jamis and Mariota, 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:41.840 he's the third quarterback off the board. I think he's 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.080 strongly about that. Brian's over here trying to tell me 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.480 that golf goes before Mariota, and I just don't believe it. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.160 I you know what though, I I like I said, 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.160 I mean, you you think that I had this negative 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:55.320 I think that people had more questions about Mariota than 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.000 they did golf. It means don't think the downfield throws. Yeah, 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.320 I think that's fairy. Mariota brings a little more upside though, 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.040 or you know a little more the physical skill set. 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.040 What he brings from a mental standpoint is that because 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.720 of a move around quarterback guy, I think you have 0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.480 some question marks. Yeah, the fact that Tennessee was not 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.960 moving that pick, you know, like no one was willing 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.920 there could trade up to that number two pick. Cleveland tried, right, 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:19.960 you know, different teams trying to get the number two. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.360 Maybe it's revisionist history, but as real as as soon 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.520 as a couple of weeks before last year's draft, I 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.000 remember there were analysts that were trying to convince people 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.800 that Mariota could be the number one pick, and nobody 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.040 really ever bought it. But there was no shortage of 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.600 people trying to sell that that Mariota was, you know, 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.320 was better than Jamis basically. And I never got the 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.239 sense that anybody was overly convinced on golf. I think 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.920 golf would have been the third behind those guys, no question. Yeah. 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.680 And I think you look through some of the teams, 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.760 you know, Cleveland with two first round picks, maybe they 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.240 move open to the top ten to get a golf 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.240 this year. I know the Browns Golf was their number 0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:02.600 one quarterback. They have a chance to draft him. But now, okay, 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.400 we got four minutes left, four and a half minutes 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.600 for the Eagles. Yeah, another one where we're not expecting 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.920 a surprise here another one. Well, I think that, you know, 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.200 I think that to me, it's got to be another quarterback. 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.320 I mean, you wouldn't do everything that you did to 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.600 get up. I actually somebody on Twitter said something to 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.320 me within the last five minutes. I was like, I 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.720 can't shake the feeling that they're gonna get Zeke even 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.200 after the trade. You don't do that to get at 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.440 anybody but a quarterback. In my opinion, Well, if you 0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.080 haul that they gave up. Yeah, if you think about though, 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:34.800 the Eagles team needs quarterback surely. You know they've bought 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.520 time with Bradford and now you have a new coach 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.880 in there. You went out, you spent some money, you 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:45.480 know on stone Chase Daniel, you gave, you gave, you know, 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.080 you gave Bradford some more money though, But sounds like 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:49.840 to me, if you could get through this year, you 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.440 can move on from that contract. I'm gonna say. I mean, 0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.760 and both of those deals are designed that they can 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.880 get rid of them after this season and it won't 0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:58.840 hurt them too much. I mean, I know people are 0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.680 talking about trading or cutting Bradford this year. That doesn't 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.520 seem likely. It doesn't sound like they're particularly interested in 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.640 doing it. But you can move on from him next 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.319 year without it being a big deal. And I think 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.880 the consensus on wins is that they don't. Nobody would 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.799 want him to start this year anyway. I think people 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.400 would prefer for him to season. And I kind of 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.120 learned behind a guy a little bit. You want him 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.759 to red shirt and you know, let the game come 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.000 to him because again I've said this before, I don't 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.239 care how much of a quarterback guru or expert that 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.120 you are, there's just no accounting for that jump and talent, 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.319 jumping competition, jumping speed going from the FCS level to 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.279 the NFL level. So for Wentz it's going to take 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.560 a learning adjustment. How long will it take for him? Yeah, 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.920 who knows. Maybe he can see the field at some 0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.800 point as a rookie. Maybe it will be in year two. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.000 But they do have a situation with Bradford and Chase 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.759 Daniel where he doesn't have to go in from day one. 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:50.080 But let me ask you this, how willing of a 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.240 mentor is Sam Bradford going to be if he's trying 0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.200 to get the hell out of him. Who knows will 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.080 he be there? You know, there's a lot of doubt 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.560 with that situation right now. But you know he called 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.200 him a baby. Yeah he is a baby. I mean, 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.359 you don't run from competition. You signed a two year 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.160 deal and you signed a five year deal here right, 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.319 You signed a two year deal. I mean, the best 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.520 thing that he could do for his career, go out, 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.799 be awesome this year and then you know, okay, once 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.080 is the future. But then go sign somewhere else for 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.759 even more big money. Um, you know, I understand that 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.799 he doesn't want, you know, he wants a more sure situation. 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.520 But again, you signed a two year deal. It's not 0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.880 like you were really in the long term plans anyway. 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.759 So homeboy has made eighty million dollars out of being 0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.160 a pretty average quarterback. He was one of those last 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.040 quarterbacks to get that big money. He was the last one, 0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.640 I think, or was it that the guarantee the big 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.040 million dollar Contram was the next guy right and eleven? Yeah, 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.240 that's a I mean you're talking like a thirty million 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.400 dollar drop in your guarantees. It mean Sam Bradford and Camp. Okay, 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.200 to pick is in for the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's go 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.160 to the podium, commissioner making his way. Here we go. 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.239 The way this set is set up looks like a 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.439 wrestling event like Goodell's coming down the ramp. Second pick 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.360 in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagle 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:13.520 select Carson and wins quarterback Dakota Stay and now it 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.800 gets interesting. And if you look at Carson Wentz's suit design, 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.000 he had his handkerchief in his pocket is green and 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.919 his sighs yellow. Right buys a nation there, Yeah, there 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.040 you go. Congratulations, are going North Dakota is probably a 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.480 fun place to be. Right now. Let me ask you this, though, 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.239 are you if you're the Eagles, do you feel I mean, 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.359 how do you feel about this pick? How do you 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.719 feel about it? Really? I mean you You've given a 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.280 lot for Carson Wentz, You've you know next year's ones 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.200 now off the book. I absolutely hate it for them. 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.759 I mean it doesn't matter to me, but I'd never 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.560 been that big of a fan of the guy. I know, 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:56.000 Mayok and some other people compare him to Andrew luck Um. 0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.960 I don't like the idea of giving up that much 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.000 stuff for a guy that we just said needs time 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.160 to become a better quarterback. If you're doing that, I 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.160 would hope it's the Andrew Luck type of guy. Like 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.000 right now, Yeah, and what's they did give up a lot? Wow, 0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.239 you're really investing in your future here. You just you 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.560 hope it works out for the player. And you know, 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.959 with the Eagles situation, they have some talent on that roster. 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.759 It's not like, you know, they gave up picks and 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.360 it's going to hamstring them for the future. I mean, 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.160 obviously you'd like to have those picks, but they do 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.440 have talent to build around a quarterback like Carson Wentz. 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:29.160 So yeah, it will be interesting to see how it 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:30.279 works out. But he is I mean, when you think 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.480 about the situation he's going to with the quarterbacks already 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.600 in the roster again, like I talked about, it's a 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.040 good situation for him. He doesn't have to worry about, 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.640 you know, being press in the action too early. If 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.920 he's not ready, you know, they can bring him along 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:43.239 at his own pace. And that's what a lot of 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.160 these quarterbacks need. A lot of times, when you're a 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.960 top ten quarterback, you're pressing the action from day one, 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.759 but not Carson Wentz. There would to shock any of 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.600 us if we did not see him play at all 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.479 this year, And to me, it would not shocking. And 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.800 we thought that maybe with the bortles Chad Henny struggled, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.359 so in Jacksonville they put him on the field early. 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.560 But it wouldn't surprise me if Carson Wentz has a 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.560 hard time getting into uniform this year, You're a factor. 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.799 And that's that. Chase Daniels looking at the war room 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.200 right now. For the Cowboys, they look very relaxed. San 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.040 Diego in fact, is on the clock. Uh, they're gonna 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.760 They're gonna have about six minutes if my calculations are correct. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.319 Just for the sake of being dramatic, I have not 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.160 seen Joe Baker, and I have not seen Hugh Jackson 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.279 pop onto this. Yeah, not Hugh Jackson. He's the coach 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.680 of the he's the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Jackson, 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.040 thank you. It'd be good. Greig Jackson. Yeah, but everybody 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.439 looks like smiles all around. Stephen Jones on the phone, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.399 Chris Hall, as you see on the lower right hand 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.600 your screen is on the phone. He usually is dealing 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.360 with the player. Uh and uh, so we'll see Stephen 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.640 Jones has his cell phone to his ear Chris Hall. 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:50.680 He's talking to actually he's talking to Robert Blackwell in Chicago. 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.759 That Robert Blackwell will hand in the trade card for 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.479 the Cowboys. If you're falling along with us on the screen, 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.080 if you could see that, uh, he will, he will 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.120 tell Robert when they're ready to go. And so here 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.040 the uh you know they're there. Everybody looks very happy, 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.879 they look very comfortable. Does not look like an anxious. Yeah, 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.560 this doesn't look like a team that is sweating this 0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.759 pick for San Diego. So let's see by again my calculation. 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:19.280 Right there, it's five minutes left for the Chargers. Chargers 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.920 still might be fielding some calls. The needs for the 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:27.120 Chargers we've talked about, uh, defensive end, safety corner, a 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.759 wide receiver, tight end guard. I mean they can go 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.319 a couple of different ways. As we uh, as we 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.560 take a peek in the Chargers room there, they looked 0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.799 like they were high five in each other. So they 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.920 probably have their card going in. Everybody's very anxious about 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.120 this to see what direction. But it looks like guys 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.040 just looking at body language in the war room. They've 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:52.120 got their guy. They clearly got their guy. And I 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.080 hate to I mean, we're gonna see, but I mean, 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:59.919 based on everything we're seeing, points toward that Columbus dude, 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.359 ye go giving them a heads up on the phone 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.239 or something. Do you do you agree with that? Brian? Well, 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.000 as far as Zeke, everything we've seen so far leads 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.680 me to bed. Yeah, I've I've been in that war 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.880 room six years with his crew. You bring that coach 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.000 in there and kind of talk to him a little 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.000 bit about what's going on. And Garrett, you know, gave him. 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.040 They gave him the bump to the chest. And so 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.880 you know, everybody they look very very calm. They do 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.279 not look like that they're worried about San Diego. San 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.480 Diego could now if San Diego were to move this 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.680 pick and all of a sudden, you know, if they've 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.359 in fact a deal was struck in front of them, 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.799 then you have to be careful. So it looks like 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.080 that the chargers still have three minutes and thirty five seconds. 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.000 So it looks like now that clock just went away, 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.360 so it might be the pick is in uh, and 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.600 then we're going to get an announcement on, in fact, 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:51.160 what the Chargers do. Anybody want to take a guess. 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.239 I mean, we opened this show with the Chargers, and 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.799 you know what could happen at three? And I'm I'm 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.800 gonna go with your gut and DeForrest Buckner, Okay, And 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.279 that'll make it interesting because then we'll really see how 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.520 the Cowboys feel about these two guys we've linked them too. 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.640 There have been a lot of late rumors about Joey 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.040 Bosa to the Chargers, now, I mean there, we talked 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.360 about it at the start. San Diego has done an 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.600 outstanding job of keeping what they really want close to 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.239 the vest, not giving it away. You know, there's been 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.680 a lot of names linked to San Diego and so 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.080 you know we're about to find out who that name is. 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.439 But you know, they've done a great job of being coy. 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.720 Has Joey Bosa been a guy that's maybe could slide 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.319 or is that you just mentioned his name? I mean, 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.000 joe we talked about him. Maybe we talked about him 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.600 at four heavy grand scheme of things though. Yeah, I 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.120 mean you look at Bosa and you know, I think 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.719 he could fit a lot of these spots here in 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.440 the top ten, Jacksonville at five. You know, you look 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.560 at Baltimore at six, you look at Tampa at nine. 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.520 I mean, Joey Bosa is not gonna have to wait 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.600 very long, especially if he could be this pick right now. 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.600 You know the Chargers have wanted that pass rusher. I 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.920 don't think you can rule him out. Yeah, and the 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.520 Chargers we talked about this UH needs for them, UH 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.160 defensive end. We've linked Buttner to them quite a bit, 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:13.319 the cornerback safety combination. Ramsey could very well be that guy. 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.040 Uh you know that does the team like the two? 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.600 I wouldn't you know? This is a team that have 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.880 has just thrown a lot of chum in the water, 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.040 and they can go a lot of different ways. I 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.160 like what you're saying about Bosa. I like what we've 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.600 talked about with UH, with Buttner, you know Ramsey, I 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.600 mean it, it's this is it? And now though this 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.600 offensive tackle situation what we're hearing, you know that that 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:42.279 might not play if it is Joey Bosa. You know, 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.480 taking taking bets at the at the beginning of the day, 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.000 who would have thought that the top non quarterback would 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.799 be Joey Bosa I mean, I I think he's worth it. 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:52.480 To me, he's one of the top I have a 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.560 number four on my board. To me, Joey Bosa is 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.319 one of the best players in this draft. I think 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.400 it's a home run pick if it is, if that 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.319 is the direction they go. But it is interesting because 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.359 I don't think a lot of people expected Joey Bosa 0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:05.440 to go number three to the charters. Yeah, they they've 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.360 They've done a nice job of of of hanging hanging 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:10.439 onto that pick and making a lot of people think 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.719 that they've They've got other things in mind. So if 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.640 he's not the pick here, well, here's the pick picks 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:26.720 coming in, So let's go to yeah selection. With the 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:31.480 third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.680 San Diego Chargers select Joey Bosa. There you go, here 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.279 we go. Nice job, Dan Burglar. Hey, we talked about 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.399 Joey Bosa and we've debated him for months of how 0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.359 he would fit with this team, and it turns out 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.479 Cowboys didn't even have a chance at him. Yeah, because 0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.200 he goes one pick ahead, and he's gotta be proud 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.440 about that. You fought me on Joey Bosa. Congratulations well, 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.680 we'll find out in time if he actually was worth 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.040 the number three pick in the top non quarterback drafted. 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.560 But you know, we gain kudos to the Chargers that 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.520 kind of plan this, after all the gnashing of teeth 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.240 about Bosa not being good enough for four. How ironic 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.160 is it that the Cowboys couldn't have him if they 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.680 wanted him? Right? That's hysterical. I mean, I'm sitting here 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.120 thinking if he's not the pick here, no way does 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.279 he fall past you know, eight to ten. I think 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.320 that the Giants would love him. I think there's a 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.000 mean uh yeah, I think Tampa Bay would love him. 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.600 I didn't see him falling that far. Now that makes 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.759 me wonder I'd said a minute ago that I thought 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.840 Buckner would be the pick. You see, you mean maybe 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.319 he's the third guy. Where does he go? Now that's fascinating. Yeah, 0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.560 that's yeah, that jackson I will I will guarantee which 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.919 Jacksonville gets on the clock. They they've hoped, they were 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.720 hopeful that Buckner would be there. I could almost guarantee. Okay, 0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.400 the uh the that means with the Chargers announced selection 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.600 there at three, the Cowboys are on the clock, that 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.200 might and both of the two guys that we have 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.560 linked them to for the last week or two. All Right, 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.279 it is the situation. They're both on the on the 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:59.080 board here, Yeah, which struction do they go? Do they 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.080 go with the defensive stud who it might be more 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.520 of a need, not only right now but long term. 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.359 Or do they go with the offensive playmaker, a guy 0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:12.200 who probably helps you win more games now might not 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.160 be your biggest need, but some players are just special 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.440 and you don't pass on them. And so that could 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.520 be the running back. So this is we could see 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.759 back to back buck eyes here. Yeah, and we very 0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.000 well could, and you'll see a lot of Buckeyes. This 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.960 does not look this doesn't look to me like a 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.279 group of people that's sweating it. No, they're they're they're 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.839 but they're looking at It's funny though, Jerry's looking at 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.839 down on his on his notes, and maybe they're thinking 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.400 about moving. I mean, I don't know how they would. 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.040 Maybe somebody entertain him. He looks like he's doing a 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.520 little math in front of him, and Jason Garrett looks 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.120 like that he wants to make this pick. So again, 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.600 you know, if you're watching a war room camp, Yeah, 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:51.319 they're they're not, they're not really. The only guy that's 0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:54.719 on the phone currently is uh is Chris Hall. And 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.279 then he is on the phone with Robert Blackwell once 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.680 again in Chicago. He's just waiting for Jerry Jones to 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.800 point to him. Chris looks, Chris looks a little stressed 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.439 of everybody in there. Yeah, well they're they're all, they're 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.640 all and by my okay, So we got four minutes 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:13.319 and twenty five seconds? Am I crazy? Or does it 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.840 feel like like the teams get ten minutes and it 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:17.680 does not feel It feels like they get about five 0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.880 because they're talking and the adrenaline's up. But yes, it's fascinating. 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.120 It is boasts that we talked about ideal for four 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.040 to three. Now he's going to a scheme that's primarily 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:29.640 a three to four. So it would be interesting to 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.040 see how the Chargers use him, if they use him 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.880 standing up, if they you know, try to go to 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.600 a more four man front with his hand on the ground. Uh, 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.480 you know, do they move them around up and down 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.719 the line of scrimmage, How they use Joey Bose will 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:43.160 be really interesting. In San Diego, well, the Cowboys still 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.040 have not handed in the card Chris Hall patiently waiting 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:47.839 for Jerry Jones to tell him to go with it. 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.120 The Cowboys have three minutes forty five seconds. Is uh. 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.000 There is a little bit of discussion there. I mean 0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:57.320 Stephen Jones waiting for the phone ring here there. Maybe 0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.760 somebody called Stephen Jones on his private number there and 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.760 and and now is talked up to him about maybe 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.120 going back in this draft. Uh, let's see that. You know, 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.320 maybe somebody wants to come up and get Ramsey. I 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.920 would the guy that every seems to be wanting to 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.160 trade up for, would would be uh, would be Zeke. 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.320 I've heard more Zeke trades than I don't think somebody 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.719 would come up for Ramsey. Maybe not Tonsil. Now I 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.719 think we saw Yeah, I think I think it's I 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.439 think that they're just patiently waiting to see what the 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.560 directions goes. This is again we're starting they're starting to 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.799 look a little more stressed than they were. Yeah, I'll 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.440 say that they're patiently waiting. Maybe where are they waiting for? 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.600 Maybe somebody offered him something that they're definitely thinking about. 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.040 You know, that's the whole uh, you know, the way 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.920 that their stack is set and all that uh, you know, 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.600 just instant though. If the pick is Zeke though, just 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.160 a dynamic football player, absolutely, I mean that's I think 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:52.960 I think Twitter will break, to be honest with you, 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.880 Yeah yeah, I just just so much's fun watching his 0:47:56.000 --> 0:48:00.359 tape explosive. He just makes everybody around him better. I mean, 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.439 the Veneran players have said this on the draft, they'll 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.879 fall in love with him because of how tough he really. 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.279 You want to see, uh brought us be very quiet 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.799 for a second. What are Zeke's weaknesses? Oh? I you know, yeah, 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.560 I mean that's that's criticized one time. That's why I 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.279 think if you watch, if you watch the Michigan State film, 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.080 that should have handed him the damn ball every play. 0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.000 It's what they should have done. You know, all right, 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.759 the Cowboys inside of it's right at almost at the 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.680 two minute mark, they're holding this thing. Uh you know, 0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:30.920 Jerry shaking his head like he does not want to 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.560 go down in this thing. Garrett's kind of like, hey, 0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.560 let's just go and uh so the Cowboys are gonna 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.359 hold this thing. Chris Hall patiently waiting and brunch time here. 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.560 So yeah, so here we go. Two minutes. We'll see, 0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.320 we'll see what this. Yeah, I've said this a million times, 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.839 but if you're operating under the assumption that you're trying 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:52.200 to win before Tony Romo retires, which the lack of 0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.520 addressing the quarterback in a big way certainly seems to 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.320 indicate that Jerry thinks he's gonna play for five more years. 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.160 I just think Zeke's the guy, Dave, you talked about 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.120 this though. You said this. Now, if this is Zeke pick, 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.680 it's Jerry Jones in the war room. I think so. Yeah. 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.600 I think Stephen Steven doesn't think like that, and he 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.200 hasn't and that's why DeMarco Murray's not here. He he's 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.759 a head coach too. I agree with that. I think 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.120 Jason Garrett saw what a great running back did for 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.040 his team two years ago, and I think Jason Garrett 0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.080 probably knows that Zeke has the potential to be better 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:21.920 than DeMarco Murray. All Right, we're getting close to the 0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.840 one minute mark here for the Cowboys. They're they've tooken 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:28.799 They excuse me, they've taken this all the way down 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.600 to the end. Will McClay just picked up the phone 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.160 in the war room. Maybe somebody called him to try 0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.120 and throw one last trade at him. And uh, but 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.759 it looks like to me that they're gonna sixty seconds. Yeah, 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:45.000 there's sixty seconds in Chris Hall is talking with Robert Blackwell, 0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.640 who's at the table in Chicago. So they're just waiting 0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.600 and now, okay, Jerry Jones now is taking over the phone. 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.840 So that means they probably got the player online and 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.440 let's see them. In fact, everybody's clapping in the war 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:59.080 and so let's see there's a pick. This is it. Yeah, 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:03.359 there's a pick, and will be very interested to see. Uh, 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.600 they're taking it down to the last thirty seconds and 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.560 then we will know exactly who that guy is. And uh, 0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.960 everybody looking. You know, I think that you know, uh 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.520 with Elliott, like I say, you get you know, you 0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:24.480 get h you know so much of an this explosive player. 0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:27.280 You know you think about him. You think about also 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.319 though with Ramsey, what he can still do, what he 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.560 can do. Uh, you know it's just gonna be. Here's 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.680 the team with the running back. Is he helps everyone 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.360 and you mentioned this, he helps the quarterback. He helps 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.080 obviously the run game. What he brings as a receiver, 0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.640 that balance that he brings to the entire offense and 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.160 then of course the defense. I think that balance that 0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.000 he brings to this offense. Uh, he's a true three 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.560 down player and it's it's hard to pass on special 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.840 and I think that's what Ezekiel Elliott brings to the field. 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:57.960 You know, you don't really see running backs go top 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.440 five very often unless you're a very good player. And 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.200 I think Ezekie Elliott definitely qualifies. And that's why he's 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.680 in consideration with this pick. You know, we've talked about 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.640 though the running back. You know, we've we've had many 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.960 a draft show arguments about the running back in the position. 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.160 You know, is it the is it the fact that 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:19.040 that Zeke is just so much more of a talented 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.920 player than the other players? Do what was the grades 0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.280 that much better than the other players that they were 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.480 they were looking at. I think, I mean, I think 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.160 you got your answer if they pick him, yeah, I 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.080 obviously And and like I said, I mean, it's it's 0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.759 not the greatest position of need on this team. Uh. 0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.520 Scott Scott Lenahan in here, Yeah, And if the offensive 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.200 Courtt is a telling indicator, And here's the pick. The 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.919 commissioner is gonna come walk down this narrow hallway. He's 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.080 not close to being the biggest need on this team, 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.120 which tells you everything you need to know about how 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.000 they feel about his talent. Yeah, here we go. Here's 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:53.400 the commissioner pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:59.680 the Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Boom. There it is, Ezekie 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:02.960 Elliot is now a Dallas co Well, mom is excited. 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.759 I think Cowboys Nations excited too, because that's that's a 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:12.520 dynamic playmaker right there. That I mean it. I honestly 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.680 don't think I ever actually thought that they would do it, 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.319 but they just would. I think the first draft show 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.120 we did. I think we kind of quieted that from 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.200 the start because it didn't seem like that would be 0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.799 the direction that this team would go. Yeah. I mean, 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.080 already on the roster, you have Alfred Morris, you have 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.560 Darren McFadden, you have Lance Dunbar. To use a number 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:33.160 four pick to go get a running back seemed unlikely. 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.359 But here we are. That's a direction they go. And 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.520 I tell you what, I'm applauding it. I think, who 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.600 I think Ezekiel Elliott helps you win more games this 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.000 year and moving forward than anyone else on the board. 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.640 And so for that reason alone, I love this pick. 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.440 I'm very confident Jalen Ramsey's going to be a great player. 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.000 I don't know if he'll be a great player this 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:57.000 year or even in twenty seventeen. I think Zeke Maybe 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.799 I'm giving him too much credit. I think Zeke has 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:00.919 Pro Bowl potential from the any steps on the field. 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:03.120 I think he'll be a candidate to be offensive rookie 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:04.600 of the Year. I mean, if you've been listening to 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.319 us all spring and we sound like broken records. But 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.560 that's why they made this pick. This is a guy 0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.120 who as a rookie, if he needs to, I mean, great, 0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:15.040 you still got McFadden and Morris if he needs to. Though. 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.279 He can carry the ball twenty to twenty five times 0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:19.399 a game, he can play all three downs, he can 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:23.279 protect the passer, he can catch out of the backfield. 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.520 Like I mean, this guy is ready to go, more 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.920 so than maybe anybody in this draft, and really since 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:31.760 the mid nineties. I mean, you can make an argument 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.520 this is the best quarterback, running back, wide receiver trio 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.200 this team has had since the mid nineties. Yeah, and 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.360 so you have You're you're kind of bringing back Obviously 0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:42.920 the ages are different, but you're bringing back the Irvin 0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:48.680 Aikman and people dynamic. People were trying to make Murray 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.399 and and Romo and Dez the new triplets two years ago. 0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.439 Zeke is a better player than DeMarco Murray. I think, 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.360 I mean, sorry, Demo, I mean, you've been in the 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.719 league for six years. You're a great player, don't get 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.400 me wrong, But I think this is this is something 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.560 else entirely. Yeah, And as we look at the war 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.160 room cam, you know, Jerry Jones sitting there, he looks 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:14.320 extremely proud of to made this pick and Dave Hellman, 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.959 you said it, and he got this war room back, 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.279 and you know, I think that he would. You look 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.400 at the coaches and you're right. Everything you guys have 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.279 said about this and how he helps Tony Romo, how 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:26.080 he helps his offense. There's a lot of people that 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.160 believe that he helps his defense. You know. You know, 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.080 I've done so many radio, so much talking about this 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.360 pick for so long now, and the last few weeks 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.279 it really became clear, at least to me, that I 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.560 thought Ramsey was that top guy, but Zeka Elliott was 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:43.000 so close. He was right there. You just couldn't rule 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.839 him out. And here we are. You know, only that 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:49.320 room knows who's truly number one on the board. But regardless, 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:51.520 they got a great player. Yeah. And and this is 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.719 not to say, you know, Jalen Ramsey could have very well, hell, 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.120 hell helped this team. You know, Jalen Ramsey could have 0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.759 come in here and done a you know, a nice job. 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.360 Maybe now, maybe one day we'll find out. Was the 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:06.319 questions about Jalen Ramsey. You know, uh, you know, we've 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:09.960 we've heard some rumors about some guys like Dion Sanders 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.239 coming in and saying, hey, he can't play corner and 0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.640 he can't do this and can't do that. Do you 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.120 think there were enough people that maybe swayed the room, 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:21.279 swayed Jerry Jones that just some more supplemental Informationally, it's 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:23.680 it's kind of funny that put his shirt back on. 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.839 Good for him. He maybe he just rolled it up. 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.719 The biggest question with Zeke is you know, how many 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.200 yards is he going to rush for? I mean, you know, 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.239 you don't have to worry. He has so few weaknesses. 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:36.800 You know, he's a player that's very clean on the field. Uh, 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:38.719 you know, I think they're clapping because Zeke just uh 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.280 said that he's going to Dallas to win Super Bowls. Well, 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:45.239 like I say, everybody's really excited about that, and that's good. 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.359 Oh can I just can I just take a minute 0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:49.520 to point out that that's who I ended up mocking 0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:51.960 today in the in the mock all done well and 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:58.320 now Jacksonville, Uh, Jacksonville's pick is is uh. I believe 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:01.839 they're on the clock right the pick is in, so 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.759 Jacksonville will be now with Jalen Ramsey on the board. Yeah. 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:06.799 This is where this is where I think that I 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.000 think that maybe Jacksonville thought they got a gift here. 0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.160 You know, they were looking, they were and I was 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:16.000 talking to Jacksonville. They were thinking about, hey, we you know, 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.840 we'd be happy if if Buckner was there. But you know, 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.719 they were also very happy about Jalen Ramsey. I think 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:23.360 this could be one of those picks, and this is 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.680 where it will be compared. This is where if if 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:28.680 in fact it's Jalen Ramsey, this is where history will 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.319 compare if if Jalen Ramsey ens up having a great 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:35.560 career and Zeke doesn't have a great career, or vice versa. 0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:37.200 I wasn't going to point out that the last running 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.799 back to go top five was Trent Richardson. Wasn't gonna 0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.359 point that out, but uh no, and hopefully you're right, 0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:45.280 uh or you are right, because they will be compared, 0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:47.359 you know, going if if that is the pick here, 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.040 you know they also like the Forrest Buckner right. Uh, 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.960 you know, the tackles are still available. Jacksonville could go 0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.719 that direction with Luke Jokil coming up in a contract year. 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:58.560 But I think you know, Jacksonville has been searching for 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.680 that playmaker in the secondary first so long. Now. You know, 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:03.320 they have one fall in their laps. It's gonna be 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.959 tough to pass on Jalen Ramsey here. Yeah, and they've 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:10.680 but Jacksonville, they've they've got some nice young skill players. 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.759 You know, Fowler come back, and they got Fowler coming back, 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.680 and they're you know, they're trying to I think though 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.600 Jacksonville is in that if you're Gus Bradley, you're definitely 0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:21.040 in that win now mode. You've got to figure out, well, 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:22.920 they've got to figure out a way to to you know, 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.360 he got another year and they've been rebuilding for a 0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:30.200 couple of years now, you know, earn that contract. And yeah, 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.800 if you look at if you look at Jacksonville's team needs, 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:36.640 it would be uh, the defensive end, which we've talked about, 0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:40.840 cornerback and linebacker. Jacksonville was one of those teams. I 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:43.120 thought that maybe that Miles Jack would be there, but 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.800 just talking to their guys, I'm curious to see where 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.280 he gets. I would not be surprised if Myles Jack 0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:51.520 ends up Owl's going back up over the war room cam. Yeah, 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.720 so good for them and they're so little, do they 0:57:54.760 --> 0:57:58.320 know that we can still see part of the room. Well, 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:00.880 good for them though that they they the player obviously 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:04.440 that they wanted. So that's a that's a you know, 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.560 that's it's very interesting because again history will look and 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.240 see if in fact, and it's funny, but I think it, 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.360 I mean not to give us too much credit, but 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.080 I think it kind of it started in that early 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.360 going in January and February, and it sounds crazy with 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:21.160 everything we know. You know this, maybe this team takes 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:22.840 a running back at forth and you say, oh, I 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:24.920 don't know about that. Yeah, and then you look at 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:27.520 Zeke and you look at this team and the options 0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.560 available to them. There's no Jadeveon Clowney on the board 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:33.760 this year, and I think, you know, it starts, it 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.440 starts small, and then next thing, you know, the Cowboys, 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.360 and I think maybe the third time you hear the argument, 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:43.320 you're like, yeah, okay, this makes some sense. And I 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.160 kind of feel like that's been the greater scheme in 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.800 this entire thing. All Right, The commissioner's making his way 0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:52.000 down the hallway to the podium. He is going to 0:58:52.080 --> 0:59:00.640 announce Jacksonsville's pick with the fifth pick in the two 0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:07.720 South and sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguard select. There 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:09.720 you go. Yeah, I thought that was an easy pick 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.160 for them. Yeah, they've been looking for that playmaker in 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.040 the secondary. Jalen Ramsey falls in their laps. You know, 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:18.280 for Ramsey, he's staying in the state of Florida where 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.760 he played college ball, and he's going to a team 0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:23.800 that has some promise. Yeah, if if Dante Fowler comes 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.440 back healthy. That defense, you know, they made some splashes 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.800 and free agency signing b Link Jackson So I think, 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:31.840 you know, that defense could be much improved this year 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.000 in Jacksonville. Yeah, if you look at it, there that 0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.840 their situation though they brought in Prince Amukamar on a 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:39.480 one year contract. They're looking for a future guy here, 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:43.560 and so you know they're not they're not really sure 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:45.960 that you know behind him what they've got. So this 0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.240 is a guy that you could definitely build on. I know, 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.680 watching him on tape, you know we were trying to 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:52.760 figure out I grated him as a safety. Dan. I 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.280 know you talked about him being a safety. Uh, it'll 0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:57.560 be interesting to see where Jacksonville plays him. But the 0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:59.919 guy does make plays. I will give him that great 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.040 And you could talk about the interceptions or lack of 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.480 or whatever, but you can watch him around the line 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.760 of scrimmage. You can watch him tackle, you can watch 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.880 him do a lot of things to cover and all that. So, 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:11.320 you know, Jacksonville feel like that they got a nice, 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.520 nice gift there with Jalen Ramsey. We all think he's 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:17.360 an outstanding football player. I feel really good about where 1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:20.440 that team is going in the next few years with 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:24.680 Bortles and Hearns and Robinson and they got yelled in 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:26.720 and every plan running back. Now they got this guy. 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:29.560 You can basically have two top five picks because Dante 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:33.560 Fowler's coming back to play his hopefully first snaps of 1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:37.160 his career. Hopefully he's coming back one hundred percent healthy. 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:39.560 I assume that they're going to be a force here 1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:41.600 in the next year or two. Okay, let's just recap 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.840 what has happened since five picks have now or in. 1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:49.960 Jared Golf goes to the Rams, Carson Wentz to the Eagles, 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:54.520 Joey Bosa to the San Diego Chargers. Nice job Chargers 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:57.240 of hiding that I didn't have Joey Bosa going there, 1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:01.640 but nice job behind. And then Ezekiel Elliott that goes 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:05.120 to Dallas with the fourth overall pick, and Jacksonville now 1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:08.240 has just taken Jalen Ramsey. That means Baltimore is on 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:09.720 the clock. And this is where it's kind of get 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:12.240 interesting with these tackles on the board. Yeah, the Forrest 1:01:12.280 --> 1:01:15.480 Buckner is available to defensive end. The both tackles are 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:19.400 on the board. Laramy Tunsel and Ronnie Stanley. Uh, you 1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:21.840 know a good nugget here from my buddy over at 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.919 ESPN field yates. First time since two thousand and six 1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:29.880 no SEC players drafted top five. That is that's interesting. 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:32.680 That wow. Yeah, they need to step it up though, 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:35.160 don't we dave, we'll be all right next year. We 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:45.880 got some guys next year. It's Miami one at the 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:49.000 beginning of Oh one, oh two. Yeah, I mean he 1:01:49.080 --> 1:01:52.280 had Vilma Portois, Sean Taylor ed Reid Well in two 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:54.000 thousand and fours when they set the record with six 1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:56.240 first rounders. And so it'll be interesting to see if 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.080 the Buck guys can challenge that. They're off to a 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:00.439 good start with two to a great start, and we'll see, 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.840 uh if they get to six. I think they're gonna 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.280 get five for sure. And it just that sixth guy 1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:08.240 can Vaughan Bell can uh, you know, Mike Thomas, one 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:11.360 of those guys sneak into the late first quick Trivia. 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:15.640 The last running back to go fourth overall was Darren 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:19.200 McFadden No. Two thousand and eight, which probably not what 1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:23.200 you want to hear, given how Darren mcadden's career in 1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:27.320 Oakland went. Yeah, but I think Ezekie lelled is stepping 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:31.600 into a far far better situation here than Darren McFadden 1:02:31.680 --> 1:02:34.320 was back. You know the way we watched We're watching 1:02:34.360 --> 1:02:37.000 this war room and seeing how they were on the 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:39.640 they were on the phones laid you wonder what oh 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:42.200 sure who was calling the trade up, you know, who 1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:45.320 was calling the entertained Maybe, okay, we'll give you this, 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.080 this and this, who was it? How far would they 1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:50.040 have to move back? Tells you how much they wanted Zeke? Yeah, 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:52.320 because I you could just tell that they were entertaining 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.560 trade offers there. I just think they were fearful that 1:02:54.600 --> 1:02:56.880 they were going to lose Zeek. Yeah, that's that. That 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:59.720 was that to me, if they knew And again that's 1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:03.280 the that's the intelligence that you gather before the draft. 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:05.880 You have to figure out what where is he visited? 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:08.720 You know, what are the teams, and then who could 1:03:08.760 --> 1:03:11.640 be the sleeper team that could come from the back 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:14.080 of the draft and and make that all happen. I 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.600 think it was Miami. I think they really wanted Zeke. 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:18.800 They were they wanted to go up there. They wanted 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:21.280 to get that running back. And you know, the Cowboys 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:22.800 didn't budge and I think they made the right move. 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:26.920 Ross Tucker, who's an NFL guy, Yeah, makes the astute 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:30.240 observation that he said, So the Cowboys do value the 1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:33.040 running back position. They just didn't value to Marco Murray, 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:35.760 which and I mean, I think this is a different 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:39.240 animal altogether. Zekelly is twenty years old. Twenty years old, 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:43.120 much different. I just it's a vastly different animal. Given 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:45.040 this kind of money to this kid at this position 1:03:45.040 --> 1:03:47.720 as opposed to to Marco Murray, I think. I mean, 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:50.120 I granted, like I said, Zekes, you have to play 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:52.160 an NFL down, but I think he's the better player. 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:56.280 Do you think the Cowboys move on from Darren McFadden now? 1:03:56.640 --> 1:04:00.200 I think it is. I don't think that they to 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.880 be in any rush to figure that out because they 1:04:02.880 --> 1:04:04.880 don't have a fullback right now. I assume they'll sign 1:04:04.920 --> 1:04:08.560 a guy in sure, but I honestly, especially with Zeke Now, 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.440 I don't think they need a fullback. I think Lance 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:14.280 Dunbar is a decent candidate to start the year on 1:04:14.480 --> 1:04:18.040 pup anyway while he comes back from this ACL n 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:20.720 c L injury. So you might not even have him. 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:24.040 So you got Zeke and you got two capable veterans. 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.720 Would it surprise me if they move on from Darren McFadden, 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:29.840 Not one bit. But that's not We've seen Stephen Jones 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.240 with those bridge players, you know, two years move on 1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:34.120 kind of a thing, though, that's not something that I 1:04:34.160 --> 1:04:35.680 think they need to be in any hurry to do 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:39.280 until aunt comes time to cut the roster down though, 1:04:39.320 --> 1:04:42.680 I mean maybe first week of September. Sure, But take 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:45.080 them all to training camp, figure out what you figure 1:04:45.120 --> 1:04:47.960 out what Dunbar's timeline looks like. Figure out, you know, 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:50.240 do they need a fullback? If they don't need a fullback, 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:52.080 why not just carry all four? And we're gonna hear 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:53.919 a lot about well, why'd they go and sign out 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:55.920 for Morris? You know, why'd they do it? Well, you know, 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:58.800 protect himselves probably a little bit. Exactly free agency is 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:01.520 before the draft, so just the timeline of the off season, 1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:04.520 you know, that type of thing can happen. But again, 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:06.760 picking top five, you take the best player. You don't 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:08.920 really worry about, you know, who else you signed in 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:11.880 the offseason. You go and get the best player. Yeah, 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.360 but I think that I think that that's something that we, 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.640 you know, we need to to think about. Though, if 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:19.720 in fact that they do make that move, you know, 1:05:19.920 --> 1:05:21.760 I mean is that you know, the beautiful thing with 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:24.360 both of those contracts is big whoop. If they do, 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:27.800 I like Derek cutting Darren McFadden is not going to 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:30.440 set them back in any kind of way. Toward the 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:33.040 salary cap or the roster or anything like that. Okay, 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:36.240 well it looks like Brad Sham. We have Cowboys royalty 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:39.840 and the Cowboys long time broadcaster. He's gonna put on 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:43.000 a headset and tell us how much he is going 1:05:43.080 --> 1:05:47.160 to enjoy saying walk the dog as often as the 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:49.080 guy does it, all prepared to say it as long 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:51.840 as it's walking the dog. I you know the thing 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:53.640 that I thought about that, and you know you and 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:55.400 I have been talking for a few days. I thought 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:57.640 that this guy just take let me interrupt you here 1:05:57.680 --> 1:06:01.000 the Raby's gonna pick here just once second. Good commission. 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:08.920 The thing tackle sixteen NFL drafts. The Baltimore Ravens select 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:13.400 Ronnie Stanley Burgo was on that one. I presume you 1:06:13.440 --> 1:06:17.640 guys have seen the little video that mister tunsl tweeted 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:22.200 out that knead the uh the Elliott thing. To me, 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:25.960 here's the big deal. You and I talked about a 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:30.120 little bit, Brian. The other day. Everyone talked about Ramsey 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:32.760 as a corner right, And I think that if you 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:35.440 had been talking not you you. I think if people 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:40.840 had been talking about Ramsey, Dane's uh, Dane's draft list 1:06:41.120 --> 1:06:44.640 listed him as the number one's safety. That was really significant, Dane, 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:48.920 I thought, because if people had been talking about Jalen 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:53.560 Ramsey as a safety from the beginning, no one would 1:06:53.600 --> 1:06:57.400 say take him over Elliott. Right. If he's Dion Sanders, 1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:01.240 then it's do you want Dion or Emmett. If it's 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:05.680 Ronnie Lot, everyone's taken Emmett. As great as safety as 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:09.560 Ramsey might be, there's no doubt about which of those 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:12.440 two guys, as a safety or a running back, is 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:15.280 going to impact the game more. Zekiel Elliot is going 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:18.160 to touch the ball more than anybody not named Tony Romo, right, 1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:24.480 for the next five years, Ravis Frederick fair Point by you. Yeah, So, 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:26.439 I mean, I think it was good and I think, 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:28.160 as I know you guys have talked about it, it it 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:31.000 helps the defense. It helps the defense two ways. One 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:32.920 is it goes back to two years ago when they 1:07:32.960 --> 1:07:35.560 make more first downs, keep the defense freshen off the field. 1:07:35.600 --> 1:07:38.240 But the other thing is they're going to score more points, right, 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:41.600 and that's going to make other offenses play differently, take 1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:44.680 more chances, which is going to give this defense enhanced 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:48.400 opportunities to get the turnovers. When you know that if 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:51.400 you score thirteen points, you're probably going to win the game. Yeah, 1:07:51.520 --> 1:07:54.440 you're not taking many chances, and your turnover opportunities then 1:07:54.480 --> 1:07:56.280 are not very great. So let me ask you this, 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:59.720 mister sham. I don't think there's anybody who's knowledge and 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.800 opinion of Cowboy's lawera I respect more thank you. We've 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.280 discussed this at nauseum over the last couple of weeks. 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:09.040 How would you feel if they gave this kid twenty two? No, 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:12.000 absolutely not. I kind of thought he might know. I 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:16.320 think there are a few numbers that are sacro sanct eight, twelve, 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:19.640 twenty two. You know, eighty eight has already been recycled, 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:22.479 fifty four has been recycled. Sure, but I think the 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:27.519 all time leading rusher can't get twenty two. I mean, yeah, 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:29.840 I think it would. It would be very exciting if 1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:31.840 they did that. But I agree with you, I think, 1:08:32.680 --> 1:08:35.240 and Emmett signed off. You don't want to, you know, 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:38.719 don't you don't want? No? No, I mean you mentioned 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:41.280 the eighty eight, but on and in Michael Irvin as 1:08:41.280 --> 1:08:44.160 a Hall of Famer, he's an amazing cornerstone player in 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:47.360 this franchise. I think Emmett Smith's career. Is that impressive 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:51.240 that his accomplishments far eclipse Michael Irvin. I would have 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:54.120 to look back in the book Dave to see which 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:58.280 if any players had eighty eight between Drew Pearson. That's 1:08:58.280 --> 1:09:00.759 a good point. And when I remember or when Michael 1:09:00.800 --> 1:09:04.280 got it, we all went, whoa. Yeah, they must really 1:09:04.320 --> 1:09:06.559 think he's gonna be good because they gave him Drew 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:09.320 Pearson's number. Right now, you know, you've only got so 1:09:09.360 --> 1:09:11.640 many numbers, so you have to But twenty two is 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:14.280 not going anywhere. San Francisco is currently on the clock 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:17.519 right now, there's four minutes, forty five seconds before they 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:20.040 have to make their pick. I'm a sucker for these 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:22.360 types of conversations. What about thirty three? How we feel 1:09:22.360 --> 1:09:24.439 about that? Well, it's already been given out other people 1:09:24.479 --> 1:09:27.519 have born. Sure, yeah, so that doesn't bother you. Well, 1:09:27.560 --> 1:09:29.560 whether it bothers me or not, it's really immaterial. I 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:32.720 tried to avoid it. But when you're talking about the all, 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:35.840 it's like in baseball with Pete Rose. You know, did 1:09:35.880 --> 1:09:39.599 he gamble? Yeah? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Well, 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:41.800 let's make a list of all the people who had 1:09:41.840 --> 1:09:46.519 more hits in the history of the game than Pete Rose. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1:09:46.720 --> 1:09:49.040 so let's make a list of all the people who 1:09:49.080 --> 1:09:51.200 had more rushing yards in the history of the game 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:53.479 than a at Smith. It is. It is a well 1:09:53.520 --> 1:09:55.639 made point, that's it. It's the reaction when I asked 1:09:55.760 --> 1:09:58.680 brought us for the weaknesses for Ezekiel Elliott. You know 1:09:58.760 --> 1:10:01.080 I went quiet, yeah, quite on that one. A very 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:04.480 well rounded player. He might not be, you know, elite 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:07.679 in some areas, but he's just so well rounded, a truth, truth, 1:10:07.720 --> 1:10:10.120 three down player. Well see that. That's a key point, 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:13.160 because what people forget about DeMarco Murray is one of 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:17.800 the big attractions for drafting him in the third round. Yes, 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:22.360 he was a critical piece of the passing game at Oklahoma. 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:25.599 That he was. He was a much more dangerous weapon 1:10:25.600 --> 1:10:28.200 as a receiver, especially as last year in Norman than 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:30.559 he was as a runner. And I never thought they 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:33.160 used him in the passing game the way that the 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:35.559 Sooners did at the end of his career, and then 1:10:35.600 --> 1:10:38.280 of course they figured out, you know, what they could 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:39.840 do with this line. I mean, I think it can 1:10:39.880 --> 1:10:42.920 be very exciting, and I think the expectation will be 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:46.040 that they'll score a lot of points. And now this 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:49.760 should make the wide receivers better because you're going to 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:53.840 have to deploy your defenders differently. Right. Well, he's there's 1:10:53.880 --> 1:10:56.120 no doubt that this is a guy that doesn't come 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:58.160 off the field, right, I mean that this is a 1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:01.479 And when we were the combine all this sitting there 1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:05.240 and we were watching him talk, it was the question 1:11:05.400 --> 1:11:09.320 was about blocking, and he takes I mean that is 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:14.320 prideful to him peewee football fullback, and he says, hey, 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:15.960 they were if I didn't block, they were taking you 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:17.760 off the field. So you and I are going to 1:11:17.840 --> 1:11:20.320 stand next to each other in Oxnard, California when they 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.880 go to the first team drills and see Sean Lee 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:25.760 and Ezeki ell Elliott let me tell you what, and 1:11:26.000 --> 1:11:28.880 and Training Camp Live will be right there to film 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:31.080 all of it for you. So yeah, get ready for that. 1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:33.519 Let me I mean, and maybe this is dumb. I mean, 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:35.880 he has a top five pick and you got a 1:11:36.000 --> 1:11:38.120 two time Pro bowler and a guy coming off an 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:41.479 eleven hundred yards season. They line up against the Giants 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:44.160 on September the eleventh. I mean, he's Zeke is your guy? 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:46.479 Zeke is standing there on play number one, do you 1:11:46.640 --> 1:11:49.960 do you not care anything about training camp? Well, I 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:53.080 mean that's fair, but I guess I don't I get 1:11:53.160 --> 1:11:55.240 that you think he's the guy when the training camp starts. 1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:58.120 I mean, uh, is it just an open competition basically? 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:01.240 Is that's what it is? Best they plug and played, guys, 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:05.080 I would say that first day, first snap. Now we'll 1:12:05.160 --> 1:12:09.160 we'll know a little bit when we go to OTAs. Yeah, 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:11.960 the fourth leading rusher in the NFL last year for 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:14.920 me is getting the first snap. Yeah, that's I kind 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:17.320 of agree. I mean, and but it won't take long. 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:20.120 It won't take long. But I think that's the right 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:22.759 way to you gotta earn it. Parcels was onto something 1:12:22.840 --> 1:12:25.240 without with not giving them the star on the helmet. 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:27.680 They still do that. Yeah, the pick is in for 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.920 the for the forty nine ers. This is interesting with 1:12:31.280 --> 1:12:34.080 Laramy tunsel still available. Yeah, how far will he fall? Now? 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:36.920 Then it's a good question because you know this the 1:12:37.240 --> 1:12:39.360 video that just came out ten minutes before the driver 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:43.880 his dad right? Correct? Is that you know there's a 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:47.559 did it surprise me? No? It was a vengeful video, 1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:49.760 is what it was. And so you know, again who 1:12:49.800 --> 1:12:52.160 knows how old it is? But these teams have done 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:54.519 enough homework on a player like Laramy Tunsel where they 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:57.639 know already if weed is a problem, is this something 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.920 that they have to worry about. So the fact that 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.040 Ronnie Stanley went ahead of Laramie Tunsel tells us there 1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:05.240 are some issues here, right because in terms of on 1:13:05.360 --> 1:13:08.799 field talent, Laramie Tunsil has head and shoulders above Ronnie 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.240 Stanley as a offensive tackle. If you look at the 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:13.439 forty nine ers needs with real quick day, we talked 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:18.320 about the quarterback there. What's going on there with that situation? 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:24.479 How about a rusher, defensive end, wide receiver also thought 1:13:24.479 --> 1:13:27.559 about here with the forty nine ers. When we get going, 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:30.240 I predict this is a team the Cowboys play next year, 1:13:30.280 --> 1:13:34.840 by the way. Predict DeForest Buckner, a guy that Chip 1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:38.080 Kelly recorded at Oregon. Oh you're saying, okay, is it 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.320 give me the why you predicted that one? Well, he's 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:43.960 I think that he can potentially be a difference making 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.559 defensive linensive lineman. There you go, and he can do 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:49.160 it at more than one position. Oh, Brad Sham's an 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:51.479 expert at what he does. Okay, Commissioner making the walk, 1:13:51.520 --> 1:13:54.559 Here we go, say to Forest, but he's here. You 1:13:54.600 --> 1:13:58.519 get to stay, says, come on, Roger, you can do 1:13:58.560 --> 1:14:00.880 it with the seventh pick in the two thousand and 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:06.280 sixteen NFL Draft, because San Francisco forty nine ers select 1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:10.840 the Forest. Thank you, good ladies and gentleman and for 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:13.160 joining us. And really I think that's a no brainer 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:15.360 pick for the forty nine ers, Chip Kelly. He knows 1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:17.439 a lot about the Forest Buckner. He coached him as 1:14:17.479 --> 1:14:20.439 a freshman, recruited him, so you could argue that no 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:22.760 team knew more about the Forest Buckner than the forty 1:14:22.840 --> 1:14:24.439 nine ers. Yeah, you could connect the dots on that, 1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:26.920 pointing him in as a defensive ent in a three four. 1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:30.280 He's a prototypical five technique. Yeah, you know, I I 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:32.160 love this fit for for both sides here. It makes 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:34.679 a lot of sense. Dude showed up to his interview 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:36.760 here at Valley Ranch and at three Piece. Yeah, he 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:39.400 was a sharp kid, he really really he seems like 1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:41.880 a good He's a kind of he's a win on 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.080 and off the field from the very little I know 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:45.880 about I'll be back. Boys. You don't need me anymore. 1:14:46.280 --> 1:14:48.280 I can't. I can't top that. Drop them like thanks 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.920 very much. Bragg, appreciate your insight, mister sham voice of 1:14:50.920 --> 1:14:54.280 the Dallas Cowboys. We can look forward to all his calls. 1:14:54.600 --> 1:14:57.479 Say he will be calling Ezekie Lelli at touchdowns in 1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.720 the near I can't wait when I hear that walk 1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.280 to I get I get excited about. Let's usually a 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:04.719 touchdown right there. You guys, we have the Ezekiel Elliott 1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:07.120 phone call filing them. Okay, well, Kent Garrison doing a 1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:09.559 little producer on the fly here, so Kent fired up. 1:15:09.640 --> 1:15:13.000 Let's go Ezekiel away. Yeah, hold on as well with 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:18.200 the cowboys. Somebody wants to talk to you, brother. Hold on, hey, 1:15:18.280 --> 1:15:22.920 Donald cowboy, this Cherry, y'all. I'm just doing great. I 1:15:23.040 --> 1:15:26.599 love Brad for you. Let's get it. Let's get this down. 1:15:27.000 --> 1:15:30.559 We want to pass you over here, let's go. You're 1:15:30.600 --> 1:15:34.720 absolutely right. Here's your coach. Here's your coach right here. 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.080 I'm good man. How are you doing? Where'd you get 1:15:38.120 --> 1:15:42.880 that suit? I've never seen a cut off shirt before 1:15:42.920 --> 1:15:47.240 like that? Oh my god? He congratulations right here. Okay, 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:51.840 well that's the audience. Can I just say, I don't know, 1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:55.840 all right, maybe maybe somebody, maybe somebody thinks it's like 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:58.639 disrespectful that he didn't call him mister Jones, but he's 1:15:58.640 --> 1:16:02.160 just so excited. How are you doing, Jerry? I love that? Okay. 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:05.400 Dane Burglar pointed out that the Browns have in fact 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:09.200 made a trade. Dane, is you know this is the 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:11.759 easiest thing to predict in this draft, was the Browns 1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:13.439 were going to trade out of this pick. Do we 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:15.960 have the Titans coming up for an offensive tackle? Could 1:16:16.080 --> 1:16:18.439 could the Titans get the guy that we talked about 1:16:18.479 --> 1:16:20.800 at number one when they were at the number one pick? Yeah? 1:16:20.960 --> 1:16:23.040 Is that a possibility? Yeah? I think that you're onto 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:25.439 something with this Titans bunch. I think that they've said, 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:27.360 and you said it on the Draft Show a bunch. 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:31.320 Cleveland is a team about the numbers. They want numbers 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:33.880 they're gonna make. It's me. What's the one team that 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:37.200 has a lot of ammunition in this draft? Tennessee, They've 1:16:37.240 --> 1:16:39.439 got a lot of picks. So let's see what if 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:41.559 it meant? There we go, Tennessee goes on the clock, 1:16:41.920 --> 1:16:44.120 see and here we go. If I and this is 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:46.200 this is just me, but if I took that time 1:16:46.240 --> 1:16:49.120 to acquire all that stuff, I'd rather keep it. I'd 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:51.280 rather just use it in the order that I've got. Well, 1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:52.840 we'll see what they had to give up, because they 1:16:52.880 --> 1:16:55.479 had three second rounders. If they only had to give 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:58.599 up one of those second rounders, maybe a future pick, 1:16:58.680 --> 1:17:00.880 then they still have two second rounders to work with. Yeah, 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:03.840 if they're going up, you know, Tunsil's still there. Yeah, 1:17:03.840 --> 1:17:06.599 and you could probably argue that no team has probably 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:10.360 done more homework on Tunsil than the Titans. Run through 1:17:10.439 --> 1:17:13.640 your offensive tackles. We have run through the guys that 1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:15.599 you have in the way you have them ranked. Well, 1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:17.720 Larremy Tunsel's the clear cut number one, But again with 1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:19.559 the off field stuff, there's a lot of intrigue there. 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:22.559 Jack Conklin, Yeah, Michigan stayed offensive tackle. You know, with 1:17:22.640 --> 1:17:25.960 Ronnie Stanley off the board, Jack Conklin is that next tackle. 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:27.960 I mean he's in play in the top fifteen. If 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:31.000 they are not comfortable with Larmy Tunsel and his character, 1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:34.440 then Jack Conklin is absolutely in play with this pick. Yeah, 1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:36.960 you know, I'm a fan of Jack Conklin. I haven't 1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:38.479 missed my saying. I like what I wanted you to 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:41.160 run through, because again we don't know with what's going 1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:43.200 on with Tunsel. This could be this could be a 1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:45.840 this could be a free fall. It could with Laramy 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:48.760 Tunsel here though. I mean, and you could absolutely be right. 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:51.519 But I just teams these days have so many ways 1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:54.240 of getting information. They got to know this stuff about 1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:57.280 this guy. This isn't yeah, this isn't that that video 1:17:57.320 --> 1:17:58.920 that all of a sudden, This isn't going to be 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.840 a surprise to anybody it's interested in this kid. Well, Tennessee, 1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:03.680 the pick, in fact is in. We're gonna get the 1:18:03.720 --> 1:18:06.960 particulars of what they gave up. They have a lot 1:18:07.080 --> 1:18:10.800 of ammunition to make these things happen, so we will 1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:13.360 see how it all plays out. Here, very excited. I 1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:15.120 think you guys are on the right path of the 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:18.240 offensive tackle. But which one? I mean, we've had him 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:21.040 linked to Tounsil the whole time, and you know, all 1:18:21.040 --> 1:18:23.760 this craziness with with what's going on. I don't got 1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:26.760 a report that the Titans gave up seventy six, which 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:29.000 is a third rounder. Oh wow, so they just to 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:31.719 that's all they gave up. That's a that's an underpay 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:33.919 to get to that. Oh my god. Yeah, So Cleveland, 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:36.920 and here's the commissioner. He's making the walk Garrison Cleveland, 1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:40.040 oh And a second rounder next year. I still don't 1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:43.280 think that's too bad. They still have three second rounders 1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:48.360 that to me. Browns have traded the eighth pick to 1:18:48.600 --> 1:18:54.000 the Tennessee Titans. With the eighth pick in the twenty 1:18:54.280 --> 1:19:01.439 sixteen NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Jack Cock. Whoa there? 1:19:02.240 --> 1:19:04.920 So we talked about it. Yeah, and this is what 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:06.840 we're gonna see with these offensive tackles. If you don't 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:08.680 get them early, they're gonna fly off the board. You're 1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:12.200 gonna be out of luck. So we're for Laramie Tunsel. 1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:14.800 Who knows this is a free fall at this point. Yeah, 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:18.000 you just had two tackles go ahead of you, who knows? 1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:20.240 And and the next one in line if you do 1:19:20.320 --> 1:19:24.519 your list, could Decker from Ohio State Spriggs? I mean, 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:28.759 could we see two other tackles go ahead of Laramie Tunsel. 1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:31.200 I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I mean, there's teams 1:19:31.200 --> 1:19:33.559 on this board that could use tackles that never would 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:36.080 have dreamed that Laramie Tunsel would be in their in 1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:39.160 their plan. I mean, I'm thinking specifically of the Indianapolis Cults. 1:19:39.520 --> 1:19:42.439 So the Browns gave up the eighth overall pick and 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:46.080 a sixth rounder this year for the fifteenth overall picks, 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:48.000 number seventy six and the third round and then a 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:50.920 second rounder next year. Yeah, that's not as bad as 1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:53.040 I thought it was at first. I'm getting that second round. 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:54.439 And this is what you know we talked about. This 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:56.840 will not be h the only time we see the 1:19:56.880 --> 1:19:58.840 Browns move. I think they're gonna be moving a lot more. 1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:01.800 They want to control next year's draft. They already have 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:05.439 two first rounders. Now they have two second rounders now 1:20:05.439 --> 1:20:07.599 they have and they have two third rounders next year. 1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:09.800 So the Browns are in position to control next year's 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:12.120 draft already and they're not done moving around. Yeah, So 1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:17.519 which Jack Conklin, he goes, he goes to, Uh, the 1:20:17.760 --> 1:20:21.680 Tennessee Titans. The Titans a very aggressive move. They they 1:20:21.720 --> 1:20:24.120 they went down in the draft and now they come 1:20:24.200 --> 1:20:26.960 up in the draft. Give them a lot of credit 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:30.439 for you know, they identified their player, they got picks, 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.360 and we look at Cleveland at fifteen. Now, I think 1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:34.320 that's gonna be a sweet spot for Treadwell. I think 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:37.360 that's gonna make a lot of sense, uh, for the 1:20:37.360 --> 1:20:39.720 Browns moving back getting that playmaker, and you gotta love 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.880 Zeke doing the Ohio. Yeah. I mean for Buckeye fans, 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:45.639 that's uh. I'm amazed how many Buckeye fans are also 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:47.960 Cowboys fans. So there's a lot of happy people. Okay, Well, 1:20:47.960 --> 1:20:50.479 tam Tampa Bay is on the clock. Hey, Kent, I'm 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:52.280 gonna take a little bit of a break. Let's take 1:20:52.280 --> 1:20:54.120 a let's take a go away for about a couple 1:20:54.120 --> 1:20:56.639 of minutes. 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This is continuing 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:10.479 coverage of the twenty sixteen and FL Draft on Della's 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:14.479 Cowboys dot Com. All right, we're back with the NFL 1:23:14.600 --> 1:23:17.080 Draft here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Thanks everybody out 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:20.720 there that's fallen along with us. We sure appreciate that. Uh. 1:23:21.040 --> 1:23:23.000 It means a lot that you followed along on the 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:26.320 Draft shows and hopefully we can carry you through these 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:29.639 next three days and uh you can enjoy our coverage 1:23:29.640 --> 1:23:32.920 and our back and forth. Uh. We're just really excited 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:35.559 to be a part of this. And as we mentioned, 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:40.040 the Chicago Bears made a trade with Tampa Bay. So 1:23:40.439 --> 1:23:43.280 the Bears are now picking at nine. Tampa will drop 1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:46.360 to eleven. This will be interesting to the fact that 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:50.360 the NFL Draft is in Chicago, so uh, it'll always 1:23:50.439 --> 1:23:53.960 be uh. And so they is Chicago is picking at eleven. Yeah, 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.240 so they wanted to get ahead of the Giants at ten. Yeah. 1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:58.600 And the name that's been linked with the Giants the 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:00.439 most has been Leonard Floyd. We'll talk about him a 1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:02.719 little bit if he would the pass rusher from George 1:24:02.760 --> 1:24:05.080 And there's the deal. The Bears gave up a fourth 1:24:05.120 --> 1:24:08.000 round or to swap spaces, go up two spots, take 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:10.960 the Bucks pick with Leonard Floyd. You know, he reminds 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:13.519 me a lot of Archievous Mango in terms of a 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:16.599 pass rusher with speed, a pass rusher with a lot 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:19.599 of athletic ability. But I saw a player that didn't 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:22.519 play with strength. The functional power wasn't there. Once blockers 1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:24.479 got their hands on him, they could shut him down. 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:27.280 So you know, there's a lot to like about him, 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:28.960 but there's also I have a lot of questions. I 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:31.640 gave him a second round grade knowing he'd probably go 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:35.679 top fifteen because of the raw athleticism and pass rush ability. 1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:37.800 He had four and a half sacks last year. They 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:39.519 asked him to do a lot of different things. That's 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:41.840 not entirely on him, but I think it's a little 1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:43.800 bit of a risk. But Chicago moving to that three 1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:46.559 to four last season desperately need that pass rusher for 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:49.759 that scheme. And so I think if we're reading between 1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:51.640 the lines here, it looks like Floyd would be the 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:54.680 likely trade up scenario here. Yeah, that's and I think 1:24:54.880 --> 1:24:57.640 you're onto something right here with Floyd. I'll tell you what. 1:24:57.720 --> 1:25:01.840 At the combine though he looked much bigger. He looked 1:25:01.840 --> 1:25:04.040 at that he does on tape. But there's a guy 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:06.720 that's got some ben to him. He's got some he's 1:25:06.720 --> 1:25:10.160 got he's flexible, he's got for a tall guy, he's 1:25:10.200 --> 1:25:14.280 got some edge rush ability to him. So you're absolutely 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:19.679 right about the Bears. They desperately could use that type 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:23.439 of a player going to the three to four. You know, 1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:25.400 they wanted a guy that could rush a pastor, and 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:27.240 so we'll see what the deal or if the move 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:31.320 is Okay, the commissioner is making his way to the podium. 1:25:31.680 --> 1:25:41.599 Chicago Bears are gonna make their pet with the Bears 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:44.080 on the clock, we want to take this moment to 1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:48.920 remember one of the NFL's greatest men, Chicago's own Hall 1:25:48.960 --> 1:26:04.120 of Famer Walter Payton, Sweetness Kevin Well lost lost the 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:06.680 commissioner there, let's see if you can pull them back. Uh, 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:10.640 and going from there, hold on we okay, well that's good. 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:14.600 Ezekiel okay from Chicago. Here Leonard Floyd, Leonard Floyd, we 1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:18.400 got Zeke. So uh it sounds like, like I say, 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:20.519 we could see the Bears are gonna make their pick. Here. 1:26:20.560 --> 1:26:23.960 We're waiting to see if Zekiel Elliot in fact is online. Zeke, 1:26:24.000 --> 1:26:30.880 are you with us? Maybe not yet. Let's see Zekiel, 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:33.679 can you hear us? Okay? Here a Valley ranch Brian 1:26:33.760 --> 1:26:36.519 brought us. Zeke is on the camera. They're seeing Zeke. 1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:42.679 We're about to get them live here. Okay here we okay, 1:26:42.680 --> 1:26:45.240 we're still waiting with a lot of things going on. Yeah, 1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:49.040 we're waiting. So yeah, we've uh, the Bears in fact, 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:54.840 did make the pick Leonard Floyd the defensive end. Let's see, 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:56.920 let's see off. Uh, it looks like to me the 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:59.120 commission is gonna make that. I think you're right though, Dane, 1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:03.760 about that about that particular pick. So a lot of 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:06.320 things going on here, but we're just trying to trying 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:07.880 to pull it, to pull it all together. Hopefully we 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:12.080 can get complicated. Yeah production we're getting Yeah. So anyway, 1:27:12.120 --> 1:27:13.920 we got a lot of going on in the background. 1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:17.640 Uh here, So, um, that means now that the New 1:27:17.720 --> 1:27:19.759 York Giants are on the clock, Dane. You talked about 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:21.880 this though they had to get ahead the Giants. That 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.840 was Leonard Floyd was their guy that they were holding 1:27:24.920 --> 1:27:28.840 on that now, so now you have the Giants sitting there. 1:27:29.120 --> 1:27:32.040 Oh shoot, yeah, Floyd's off the board, right, we gotta 1:27:32.040 --> 1:27:34.720 go to our next best option, Yeah, at number ten, 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:36.640 because it looks like that's what Chicago's going up to 1:27:36.680 --> 1:27:39.200 get picks. Not official yet, but that's kind of what 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:42.640 we're thinking. Yeah, Well, here's the needs for the if 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:46.280 you want to say, the Giants wide receiver, safety, maybe 1:27:46.280 --> 1:27:49.800 an offensive tackle. Could could that be? Could that be 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:53.360 the case? You know, here we go. Well, I'm sorry 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:55.800 the commissioner. I thought he'd already announced the pick. A 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:58.479 lot going on, A lot going on here the audio 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:00.559 on the pick because we're trying to get zeke on. Yeah, 1:28:00.680 --> 1:28:02.960 so they're in Chicago, so yeah, a lot of uh, 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:05.400 a lot, a lot of dignitaries going on. So yeah, 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:07.320 in fact, the pick's gonna go in here, we'll see 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:10.080 if it's Leonard Floyd. I jumped the gun thinking it 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:11.920 was going to be him. I think you're absolutely right 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:15.120 about this day. So let's see ken are we going 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:17.240 to get the commissioner to pick? Are we still waiting on? 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:19.720 Still waiting on z okay, still waiting on Zee. So 1:28:19.760 --> 1:28:22.640 we'll continue on. Thanks everybody bearing with us on this. 1:28:22.680 --> 1:28:25.920 We're trying to bring you bearing with us, bearing with 1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:28.760 us nice you like that didn't do that? He did? He? 1:28:28.880 --> 1:28:30.360 I didn't. I know, I'm not that smart to do 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:33.000 it on purpose, though. It's not surprised caught it though, Yeah, 1:28:33.040 --> 1:28:36.639 but un but you know, looking back, like I say, 1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:39.519 the U and what we've seen with the draft. Just 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:42.240 to recap the last several picks of what we've seen 1:28:42.280 --> 1:28:45.920 this round, Jerry Golf goes one overall, Carson Wentz two, 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:48.960 Joey Boasta three to the Chargers, Ezekiel Elliot, who were 1:28:48.960 --> 1:28:50.479 going to talk to here in just a little bit. 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:54.400 At four, Jalen Ramsey goes to Jacksonville. At five, Ronnie Stanley, 1:28:54.400 --> 1:28:57.519 the offensive tackle from Notre Dame, goes to Baltimore at six. 1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:01.120 DeForrest Buttner, defensive in from or, goes to San Francisco 1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:04.280 at seven. Jack Conklin, in a trade up by the 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:08.280 Tennessee Titans, goes eight, and the Chicago Bears are on 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:10.000 the clock. And like I said, I think that this 1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:13.519 is going to be Leonard Floyd, and they should and 1:29:13.640 --> 1:29:16.680 it is. In fact, it is Leonard Floyd, the the 1:29:16.800 --> 1:29:21.559 linebacker from Georgia. Dane talked about him. We were talking 1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:25.479 about in what we think about him as a player. Uh, 1:29:25.520 --> 1:29:27.680 there's some time when you watch him on tape, he 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:31.160 does explode off the football, he does capture the corner 1:29:31.560 --> 1:29:34.880 and so uh, you know the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, you 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:37.200 know a guy that a lot of people looked at, 1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:39.440 you know is probably where would you play for the Cowboys? 1:29:39.720 --> 1:29:41.960 Would you play this guy as an outside linebacker? Would 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:43.680 you play him as a defensive end? I think you 1:29:43.680 --> 1:29:47.280 have to. And he's tall, he's long. Uh. You love 1:29:47.320 --> 1:29:49.920 the speed, the flexibility, you know, the way he can 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:52.400 capture the edge. It's what you want a pass rusher. 1:29:52.840 --> 1:29:55.280 But again, having all those traits are nice, but it 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:59.000 has to translate the functional you know, football production. And 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:02.320 so I'm not sold on this player, especially this early. 1:30:02.520 --> 1:30:04.960 Uh you know, it's it's a risk to me again, 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:07.400 barkievous Mingo is the player that jumps out to me. 1:30:07.880 --> 1:30:11.760 That is not a good stand out up to this point. Yeah, 1:30:11.760 --> 1:30:13.439 but now this is interesting for the Giants because this 1:30:13.439 --> 1:30:15.680 is what this was their guy. Leonard Floyd was who 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:17.640 the Giants had had pegged as their guy. And so 1:30:17.760 --> 1:30:20.640 now they're going back to the drawing board. You know, 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:23.439 Laramie Tunzel still on the board. You know, Laramie Tunsil 1:30:23.479 --> 1:30:26.080 and Miles Jack are the two biggest wild cards right now. 1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:28.040 You know, could the Giants take a chance on one 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:31.760 of those wild cards or who Vernon Hargraves is still available? 1:30:31.920 --> 1:30:34.040 A couple different options they could go here. Yeah, I 1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:36.599 just I'm always interested when you're when you're in that 1:30:36.640 --> 1:30:40.360 war room, you're always thinking about your division opponents. Sure, 1:30:40.479 --> 1:30:42.880 you know who who is who is who are they 1:30:42.880 --> 1:30:44.960 going to take? And you know, and and and could 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:47.479 they get a guy that could make a difference for 1:30:47.560 --> 1:30:51.519 them winning the divisions? And maybe, I mean maybe maybe 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:54.880 we'll learn to rue the day that the Eagles took 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:58.479 Carson Wentz. But we don't expect that to be twenty sixteen, 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:00.559 right which, you know, it'll be interesting to see where 1:31:00.560 --> 1:31:02.519 the Giants pick. They're in a spot. I mean, Odell 1:31:02.600 --> 1:31:05.240 Beckham went right in this range and obviously made a 1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:08.840 huge splash, So got a big time opportunity to to 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:11.000 draft the guy who can make a difference right away. Okay, 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:13.120 the Giants are, in fact, they're on the clock. They 1:31:13.160 --> 1:31:15.720 have two minutes and thirty seconds before they have to 1:31:16.360 --> 1:31:20.439 hand in their pick. Dane Burglar told you exactly what 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:23.639 happened to them in front of them Chicago, realizing that 1:31:24.240 --> 1:31:27.080 he could be Leonard Floyd could be the guy there, 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:30.160 guy that they look at and had a target on. 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:34.000 Bears jump up ahead at nine, make a tray grab him. 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:39.400 So now will this be where Laramie Tunsel stops, where 1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:42.160 the fall stops. You know, we we've talked about the 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:45.639 Giants and what they could need. Dave, you even talked 1:31:45.680 --> 1:31:49.360 about a linebacker in the situation. There's some people they went, 1:31:49.680 --> 1:31:52.320 this is like a lot of defense in free agency. 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:54.559 A lot of people have peg Miles Jack in this 1:31:54.640 --> 1:31:56.800 spot despite the fact that his knee is banged up. 1:31:56.960 --> 1:31:59.080 Miles Jack is my number one rated player in my 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:01.439 top fifties, and if he were to end up at 1:32:01.479 --> 1:32:03.840 the Giants, I would maybe do a sports cry for 1:32:03.880 --> 1:32:07.040 you here right now. But here's here's the thing. I mean, Like, 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:09.920 like I've said a few times tonight, nobody that's picking 1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:12.800 these guys should be surprised about Laramie Tunsil, you know, 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:15.360 having some off field concerns. The Giants have been linked 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:18.280 to offensive line. They've invested a lot of offensive line. 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:22.000 If they can get this dude at ten, when two 1:32:22.000 --> 1:32:25.519 weeks ago he was expected to be number one, even 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:27.240 if he's got off field concerns, I think you got 1:32:27.320 --> 1:32:29.000 to call that a coup. But at this point you 1:32:29.080 --> 1:32:32.280 have to wonder how much work have some of these 1:32:32.320 --> 1:32:35.639 teams done on Laramie Tunsel not thinking he would even 1:32:35.680 --> 1:32:40.280 touch the eleventh through you know whatever, I don't think 1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:41.960 any of these teams really thought he'd fall that far, 1:32:42.320 --> 1:32:44.679 So did they, you know, work on him as thorough 1:32:44.760 --> 1:32:47.200 as some of these other players. It's a great point. Yeah, 1:32:47.200 --> 1:32:50.440 it's so it's it's a kind of a panic situation 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.960 because the Giants are calling around, all these teams are 1:32:52.960 --> 1:32:55.200 calling around. Okay, well why is he falling? Is there 1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:58.080 more to this video and what's going on? So this 1:32:58.160 --> 1:33:01.840 is really I mean, this is a draft drama right now. Yeah, 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:04.240 and you know, we we we I mentioned it earlier 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:08.799 about the Giants with adding the all the defensive presence 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.599 that they they did, you know, with that front seven, 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:15.479 and could they add you know, Miles Jack, could they 1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:18.360 add a cornerback? You know, I mean there's a couple. 1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:21.080 I mean, I don't know, you know, we every time 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:23.519 we've ever seen the Cowboys and the Giants match up 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:26.639 with the questions have always been can the Giants hold up? 1:33:27.040 --> 1:33:29.799 You know in the secondary? You know, the front seven 1:33:30.560 --> 1:33:34.280 linebacker has been some issues as well. Yeah, no doubt. So, 1:33:34.439 --> 1:33:36.920 uh you know, I just if you had to just 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:39.559 guess and just go ahead and throw on your your 1:33:39.640 --> 1:33:42.559 guessing hat, do you have you have somebody in mind 1:33:43.200 --> 1:33:45.200 that the Giants might take here, either one of you, 1:33:45.439 --> 1:33:47.920 I think, Okay, if it's not going to be offensive, line, 1:33:47.960 --> 1:33:50.519 which I don't think it will be. Um, I think 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:52.320 you look at the secondary. Yeah, I mean you have 1:33:52.360 --> 1:33:55.200 to look at uh, you know, Vernon Hargraves is there, 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:59.720 William Jackson, Eli Apple, you know teams Uh, you know, 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:02.720 the corner is a premium position in the NFL, and 1:34:02.760 --> 1:34:05.280 so it wouldn't shock me if any of those three 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:08.800 players is the name here. I completely agree. But I 1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:11.400 mean to go back to Tunsil and maybe he's not 1:34:11.439 --> 1:34:13.040 the pick, but if he is, I mean it's a 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:15.920 copycat league. You've seen how much credit the Cowboys have 1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:17.840 gotten for what they've done in their line. Yeah, you 1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:22.280 add him to Eric Flowers and um, Justin Pugh. You've 1:34:22.280 --> 1:34:24.800 got three premium talents on that line. And it's a 1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:29.360 similar situation to the Cowboys, I believe. I think if 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:32.559 Tom Coughlin was still coaching there, I think you would 1:34:32.640 --> 1:34:36.679 see them try. Tom Coughlin has come out several times 1:34:36.760 --> 1:34:40.160 after the games when the Cowboys and Giants had played, 1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:42.640 and they've talked about, Hey, that is Tom Coughlin's like 1:34:42.640 --> 1:34:45.400 wet dream is having that many first round picks on 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:48.680 the offensive line. Absolutely, absolutely, but I kind of I 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:51.200 really do like where the direction to Dane's going though 1:34:51.320 --> 1:34:54.040 with that with the secondary. You know, Miles Jack would 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:58.080 be I think there's just questions now with the microfracture 1:34:58.200 --> 1:35:00.599 and that the possibility of that, and think he's tried 1:35:00.640 --> 1:35:04.400 to be very honest about that and and that team, 1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:06.639 you know, and at some point in time, we're gonna 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:08.800 call his name in this draft, and maybe we call 1:35:08.800 --> 1:35:12.120 it here at ten, but you know, we're gonna call 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:14.320 it tonight. We're gonna call it tonight though, And and 1:35:14.439 --> 1:35:17.280 but here's the Commissioner Canada. We still gonna get the 1:35:17.280 --> 1:35:20.679 commissioner or we you know, no commissioner. So the Commissioner 1:35:20.720 --> 1:35:22.840 Goodell is gonna make the trip. We're gonna we're just 1:35:23.200 --> 1:35:26.560 still working on getting Zeke. I have a feeling a 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:28.599 lot of people want to talk to Zeke tonight. Yeah, 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:31.120 so we're working on all that right now. Commissioner in 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:33.960 fact is making the pick, and we're gonna get across 1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:37.400 the screen. We will get the scroll. It looks like 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:41.960 the Apple three buck guys top ten And how about 1:35:41.960 --> 1:35:45.280 that mentioned the secondary and how important that was Eli Apple. 1:35:45.560 --> 1:35:48.840 When you look from a height, length, speed standpoint, it's 1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:51.439 all there. What you look for in a cornerback. Does 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:54.400 he hold too much? Yes? Is he always supplended some areas, Yes, 1:35:54.800 --> 1:35:56.599 but that's coachable. And this is a twenty year old 1:35:56.640 --> 1:35:59.360 player who has a lot of potential and has what 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:01.840 you can't coach. The things that he needs to work 1:36:01.840 --> 1:36:04.519 on are fixable. And so for the Giants, you know, 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:06.200 they get a very young player they can groom in 1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:08.679 that defense. Yeah, Dan, I thought you made an excellent 1:36:08.760 --> 1:36:12.080 point about him. He is a holder, a grabber, but 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:16.799 he is very physical as has the tackles former teammate 1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:18.880 twice a year. Yeah, and hopefully he won't do that 1:36:18.960 --> 1:36:22.320 very well. So Cowboys, less than a third of the 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:25.000 way through the first round, three buck guys off the board. Yeah, 1:36:25.080 --> 1:36:28.799 and I would say maybe I'm wrong. Apple was maybe 1:36:28.800 --> 1:36:30.960 one of the ones that was you weren't sure that 1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:32.840 he would even go in the first round. Yeah, I 1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:35.479 think it just it's hard to see guys or teams 1:36:35.479 --> 1:36:39.880 passing on, you know, guys with this talent, the raw talent. 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:42.280 He does need a lot of work, but you know, 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.120 some questioned him coming out of Ohio State as a 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:48.080 redshirt sophomore, but all the talent is there and here 1:36:48.160 --> 1:36:51.080 he made a great, great decision as a top ten pick. Yeah, 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:53.280 and then uh, you know the things I just looking 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:55.240 through my notes about him. You know, we talked about 1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:57.600 him having to make the tackle. I saw that he 1:36:57.640 --> 1:36:59.920 could hold the edge, and but there's some snaps where 1:37:00.560 --> 1:37:03.240 you see separation with him down the field, you know, 1:37:03.280 --> 1:37:06.320 when he's not holding. So Dane's right, though, you can 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:08.760 you can teach this kid. I'm not gonna act like, Hey, 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:10.800 I'm not gonna act like he came from some small school. 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:13.080 He came from Ohio State and so he knows how 1:37:13.120 --> 1:37:15.840 to play football. They will have to work with him 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:20.680 on his technique and uh and hopefully for him that 1:37:20.840 --> 1:37:23.240 he can come around and not be a guy that 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:26.519 holds every single play three hours ago. Would you have 1:37:26.560 --> 1:37:29.800 guessed Eli Apples off the board before Laramie Tunsel. No. 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:32.120 I would not have guessed that Eli Apple would be 1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:34.840 off the board before Darren Lee, another Ohio State buck guy. 1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:38.920 I mean point the Laramie Tunsel stuff is really fascinating now. 1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:41.519 You know, we saw it last year with Lyle Collins. 1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:45.000 A different situation obviously, but another SEC tackle now is 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:47.880 falling down the board. What's his floor? I mean, there's 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:50.120 no way to predict this right now. You know he 1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:52.320 could I'm not even gonna try and guess, because he 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:54.160 could go on at this pick right now, he could 1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:55.760 fall out of the first round. There's no way to 1:37:55.800 --> 1:37:58.720 truly know where Lamie Tunsel's going to land. Bill Abraham 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:01.800 makes a fantastic point on Twitter that Eli Apple can't 1:38:01.840 --> 1:38:05.080 cook though, Like why are they taking what are they doing? Yeah, well, 1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:07.000 Tampa Bay is on the clock. This is a trade 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:11.200 that they made with Chicago. Chicago did at this time 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:15.240 own the eleventh pick. Now this pick belongs to the Buccaneers. 1:38:15.439 --> 1:38:19.080 And just looking at my draft board, I've got three 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:22.160 second round guys going off the board if you look 1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:26.200 at it, Stanley, Floyd, and Apple. So you know, I mean, 1:38:26.479 --> 1:38:28.840 maybe maybe I'm the one that needs to have my 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:32.280 head examined here, but I would have surely believed that 1:38:32.400 --> 1:38:36.000 a guy like Hargraves would have gone earlier. You know, 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:40.519 We've talked about Miles Jack and his situation. You know, 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:43.519 I've just kind of to be honest, I'm not too 1:38:43.520 --> 1:38:46.559 surprised about Hargraves, just because I think his size really 1:38:46.600 --> 1:38:49.479 hurts him. Yeah, you know, he's such a competitive player, 1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:51.960 he's such a natural cover man. But I think just 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:55.080 the way the game is leaning right now with corners, 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.360 teams want those bigger guys, and so Hargraves, he's not 1:38:58.360 --> 1:39:00.360 gonna have to wait much longer to come off the board. 1:39:00.400 --> 1:39:02.960 But you know, Hardgraves, it seems like it seems like 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:04.880 Tampa Bay, this seems like to be the pick. Yeah. 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:08.080 I mean, because we've everybody's kind of mocked U Tampa 1:39:08.120 --> 1:39:10.360 Bay too, Hard Graves. That was where that was the 1:39:10.360 --> 1:39:12.920 spot that he was going to land. So they get 1:39:12.960 --> 1:39:15.880 the guy they wanted all along while adding a pick. Absolutely, 1:39:15.960 --> 1:39:17.439 you know, if you look at if you look at 1:39:17.479 --> 1:39:21.559 the Buccaneers, I mean it's inside, outside, defensive line play, 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:24.680 an offensive tackle, a corner, could all be you know, 1:39:24.840 --> 1:39:28.240 if not Um, if not Tampa Bay, I'll tell you 1:39:28.240 --> 1:39:30.280 you're coming up on two others. I think Miami would 1:39:30.320 --> 1:39:33.440 probably love to have him. He's a Florida guy. Yeah, 1:39:33.520 --> 1:39:37.559 so yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Well I it just this 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:40.280 whole thing with with tunsl has got me, you know, 1:39:40.360 --> 1:39:43.920 because we you know, again we're we're evaluating the player. Now. 1:39:44.160 --> 1:39:46.880 Now all of a sudden, the teams, you know, are 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:50.040 hearing these things, they're seeing these things. Who's the first 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:52.439 team that's gonna not be scared. You know who is 1:39:52.479 --> 1:39:54.920 the first team, and you know that we'll say, you 1:39:54.960 --> 1:39:57.519 know what, the talents too much. We just we'll figure 1:39:57.560 --> 1:39:59.840 this out. We're just gonna draft this game. We'll never 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:03.400 know if this video that came out ten minutes for 1:40:03.439 --> 1:40:06.800 the draft, if if that has affected how the teams 1:40:06.800 --> 1:40:09.800 have been drafting. Obviously teams knew something was going on 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:12.960 ahead of time. This isn't a complete shock, but where 1:40:12.960 --> 1:40:15.519 teams are more comfortable before this video came out, Now 1:40:15.640 --> 1:40:17.880 the videos out there thinking, you know what, we were 1:40:17.880 --> 1:40:20.400 already kind of on the fence before. Now we just 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.559 can't take them. And there have been some reports that 1:40:22.520 --> 1:40:24.760 it was the step father that did leak it. Yeah, 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:27.800 you know, Tom will tell how the true story behind that, 1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:30.639 but those are what the reports are. And it's Uh. 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:33.800 The drama with Tunsil in the draft right now is 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:36.200 just it's fascinating and terrible for him. Okay, the picks 1:40:36.240 --> 1:40:38.960 in for the Buccaneers. We get back to that talk 1:40:39.000 --> 1:40:42.760 about though we've we've mocked hard Graves to the Buccaneers, right, 1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:44.920 that's kind of been one of a theme that you've 1:40:44.920 --> 1:40:48.400 had talk about Hard Graves though, as a player for 1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:52.439 what the Buccaneers are going to get ultra competitive. You know, 1:40:52.520 --> 1:40:56.360 he's he's a natural, instinctive player. He's a coach's son, 1:40:56.680 --> 1:40:59.519 grew up around the game. Uh you know, and those 1:40:59.520 --> 1:41:02.559 sounds like cliches, Yeah, but it's the truth. I mean, 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:04.000 he really grew up around the game. And you can 1:41:04.040 --> 1:41:06.519 tell his smarts in his leadership. As a true freshman 1:41:06.560 --> 1:41:08.960 at Florida, he really stepped into a leadership role and 1:41:09.160 --> 1:41:11.479 you saw that developed the last three years for the Gators. 1:41:12.280 --> 1:41:14.640 Really tough. He's not the biggest, not the fastest, but 1:41:14.720 --> 1:41:18.280 he understands how to play the positions bracket receivers. He 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:21.879 has ball skills, so I think besides not having elite 1:41:22.880 --> 1:41:26.200 a straight line speed and elite size length, he's a 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:29.200 very good corner who's deserving of the first round, top 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:31.439 fifteen and yeah, I makes sense here. Yeah I had him. 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:33.040 I had him as I had him as the best 1:41:33.040 --> 1:41:35.679 corner in the draft. Again, I had Jalen Ramsey playing 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:39.160 as a safety and everything that Dane says, this guy 1:41:39.200 --> 1:41:41.760 doesn't normally travel. When you watched him at Florida, he 1:41:41.800 --> 1:41:45.280 normally didn't travel with the best receivers. He usually he 1:41:45.360 --> 1:41:47.599 just played on He normally just played on the left side. 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:50.759 And that's something that you know when you talk about 1:41:50.760 --> 1:41:54.120 these elite type, does that guy have the ability to 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:57.640 go and take and take the best receiver out of 1:41:57.640 --> 1:42:00.439 the game, you know, And and with Hardgraves, I did. 1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:02.599 I will know said this though about him. I saw 1:42:02.640 --> 1:42:05.519 him get bullied a little bit by bigger receivers. And 1:42:05.880 --> 1:42:09.839 so Commissioner is making the walk to the podium. Kent Garrison, 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:12.639 I think we're back at it. So here's Pittisure Roger Goodell. 1:42:13.560 --> 1:42:16.559 We're the eleventh pick in the two thousand and sixteen 1:42:16.760 --> 1:42:22.679 NFL Draft. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Vernon and Hard Graves. 1:42:22.840 --> 1:42:25.040 There you go here it isn't. Hardgraves is the third 1:42:25.200 --> 1:42:29.800 corner off the board now because the Jaguars have said 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:32.000 they will play Jalen Ramsey at corner. There you go. 1:42:32.160 --> 1:42:35.320 So Jalen Ramsey being the first Elapple's second. Now Vernon 1:42:35.320 --> 1:42:38.160 Hargraves at eleven. So you know it's for the for 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:41.240 the Bucks, they're getting a very competitive player at a 1:42:41.280 --> 1:42:44.519 position of need. They need a corner for Hard Graves. 1:42:44.560 --> 1:42:46.280 He stays in this in the state of Florida, just 1:42:46.320 --> 1:42:50.000 like Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, it goes to a good situation there. Yeah, 1:42:50.080 --> 1:42:52.960 new head coach there too. Apologies in advance for making 1:42:53.000 --> 1:42:56.160 everything about the Cowboys, but that's back to back corners 1:42:56.200 --> 1:42:57.479 that are going to have to find a way to 1:42:57.479 --> 1:43:00.800 deal with as Bryant this year. Yeah. Absolutely, Actually, I mean, 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:02.479 I mean and the guy that we talked about might 1:43:02.520 --> 1:43:04.800 get bullied a little bit by size I mean bro 1:43:05.000 --> 1:43:08.320 and Hard Greaves for sure. Right when the Bucks come 1:43:08.720 --> 1:43:10.800 to Dallas second to last game of the season, I 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:13.720 believe right around there right now, towards the end of 1:43:13.720 --> 1:43:18.639 the season. Meanwhile, Eli Apple's first NFL assignment will probably 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:20.880 be des Yeah, so that'll be a matchup that we 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:24.760 all look forward to. Okay, the New Orleans Saints are 1:43:24.920 --> 1:43:28.360 on the clock. Uh if the first time, this is 1:43:28.360 --> 1:43:30.439 where I think Miles Jack. Yeah, this is where I 1:43:30.439 --> 1:43:34.000 think Miles Jack is involved right here, And I'm very 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:37.719 very interested by that, that whole thing with where Miles 1:43:37.800 --> 1:43:40.080 Jack is going to end up, right, And I think, yeah, 1:43:40.080 --> 1:43:42.679 this we talked about, this champaign will take a risk. Well, 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:44.719 and you look at what the where the Saints are 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:47.080 with Drew Brees, they probably have a two year window. 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:49.400 They need a win now and they need defensive help. 1:43:49.439 --> 1:43:52.080 And so you know, forget the long term Miles Jack 1:43:52.120 --> 1:43:54.960 and help you right now. Maybe that is the direction 1:43:55.000 --> 1:43:56.800 they go. They definitely have to go defense. They've been 1:43:56.840 --> 1:44:00.000 talking about maybe Paxton Lynch here. You can't rule anything out, 1:44:00.240 --> 1:44:02.880 but they need defensive help in the worst way. So 1:44:02.880 --> 1:44:04.880 when you look at the top defensive players on the board, 1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:09.040 you know you're looking at Miles Jack, Sheldon Rankins, Shaq Laws, 1:44:09.080 --> 1:44:11.439 and Darren Lee. So I think one of those players 1:44:12.240 --> 1:44:14.000 has to be the pick here for the Saints. Yeah, 1:44:14.040 --> 1:44:17.960 and it's they can the Sean Payton is he's clearly 1:44:17.960 --> 1:44:21.360 he runs the player personnel department right there with the Saints, 1:44:21.400 --> 1:44:24.679 and you know it's uh, you know, he's he's taken 1:44:24.720 --> 1:44:28.040 a role in that and he's not afraid to take 1:44:28.080 --> 1:44:30.160 a player with a little bit of a risk. You know, 1:44:30.160 --> 1:44:32.720 if he feels like that that player, uh could help 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:34.880 him win football games. He's won a lot of games 1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:38.640 for the New Orleans Saints and so he has that opportunity, 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:40.680 has that big stick, and he will find a way 1:44:40.720 --> 1:44:42.880 to use it. And if in fact, like I said, 1:44:43.040 --> 1:44:44.760 I was just hearing from a lot of people in 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:48.320 the NFL. This is the spot where Miles Jack could 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:50.879 very well go. This is you know, they were hopeful 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:54.200 that Miles Jack would somehow make his way down the 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:56.840 board to them and that they would go ahead and 1:44:56.960 --> 1:45:00.559 make this pick. They've got four minutes in fift seconds. 1:45:00.840 --> 1:45:03.280 Kent was telling me my ear that we Gary Brown, 1:45:03.360 --> 1:45:06.719 the running backs coach for the Dallas Cowboys, UH, will 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:09.760 soon join us here. That's fun on headset. And that'll 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:12.720 be an excited to get and yeah and uh and 1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:15.280 we will get a little bit his insight on what 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:19.120 he thought about Ezeko Elliott, how excited he has, how 1:45:19.160 --> 1:45:22.360 the other running backs will fit uh in the mix, 1:45:22.400 --> 1:45:25.040 and and and that'd be really some nice insight for 1:45:25.080 --> 1:45:27.800 you there. Okay, once again, the New Orleans Saints on 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:33.120 the clock, four minutes, twenty seconds left. Uh. You know, 1:45:33.160 --> 1:45:35.040 if you look at like I said the team needs 1:45:35.520 --> 1:45:38.599 for the Saints, this is a guy I mean, you 1:45:38.640 --> 1:45:41.280 know you saw him linked to Paxton Lench here the 1:45:41.320 --> 1:45:43.840 last one. I just don't know this, just don't know 1:45:44.040 --> 1:45:46.639 that the need and you know, some Cowboy fans will 1:45:46.680 --> 1:45:49.000 probably say this about the Cowboys, right The need for 1:45:49.120 --> 1:45:51.920 defense on this team is absurd. They could have used 1:45:52.000 --> 1:45:55.000 Apple or Hargraves. They could use a pass rusher. How 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:58.280 about Rankings here, Yeah, Rankings has probably been the name 1:45:58.320 --> 1:46:00.519 for them. Over the course of the draft. You look 1:46:00.560 --> 1:46:03.479 at you know, every team sees changes in their draft pick, 1:46:03.640 --> 1:46:06.639 it's been Rankins like eighty five percent of the time 1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:09.280 every mock that I've ever looked at. Sheldon Rankins one 1:46:09.320 --> 1:46:12.120 of the best three techniques in this draft and blosive 1:46:12.280 --> 1:46:15.200 up the field right, and he has versatility too, And 1:46:15.280 --> 1:46:17.680 he played some five mostly five technique at Louisville and 1:46:17.680 --> 1:46:20.360 they're they're hybrid three four, So the Saints run a 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:22.559 little bit of a hybrid as well. I think, yeah, 1:46:22.600 --> 1:46:24.640 he would fit really well as a three technique and 1:46:24.640 --> 1:46:26.320 then also play him a little bit in the five, 1:46:26.400 --> 1:46:27.960 play him a little bit on the outside. He can 1:46:28.000 --> 1:46:29.519 play over the tackle. He could do a lot of 1:46:29.520 --> 1:46:32.920 things for you. Yeah, And so Saints can go a 1:46:32.960 --> 1:46:35.240 lot of different directions. Again, we think that they're gonna 1:46:35.280 --> 1:46:38.559 go defense. That Dave even brought up the fact that 1:46:38.760 --> 1:46:42.160 maybe could this be a landing spot for Paxton Lynch 1:46:42.560 --> 1:46:45.320 be thirty seven year old Drew Brees or do they 1:46:45.320 --> 1:46:47.599 address it later in this draw? How about another of 1:46:47.600 --> 1:46:51.400 our of my favorite guys, the Saxon Lynch. Wasn't your 1:46:51.400 --> 1:46:55.280 favorite guy? The Saints parted ways with Marcus Colston this offseason. Yeah, 1:46:55.439 --> 1:46:57.640 maybe they want a big bodied receiver who goes in 1:46:57.680 --> 1:46:59.760 the top half of the draft. Yeah, there you go. 1:47:00.240 --> 1:47:02.600 That would be not a bad idea. That's something that 1:47:02.640 --> 1:47:04.599 they're trying to help Drew Breese with a little bit. 1:47:04.600 --> 1:47:08.080 I think Saints fans would be apoplectic if the Saints 1:47:08.120 --> 1:47:11.479 drafted Laquon Treadwell that apoplectic that means mad. Sorry, okay, 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:14.439 I'm sorry. That with the same university as I know, 1:47:14.560 --> 1:47:16.600 I know. Did you know what that meant? No? Hell no, 1:47:16.680 --> 1:47:21.800 I didn't know what eli apoplectic. That's about it. That's 1:47:21.800 --> 1:47:23.800 a ten dollar word and we need to be using 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:25.680 like fifty cent words. Yeah, if you look at if 1:47:25.680 --> 1:47:27.840 you look, they got a good young core receivers. If 1:47:27.840 --> 1:47:31.479 you think about it, though, Cooks, Coleman, Snead, could they 1:47:31.479 --> 1:47:35.080 add another one? I mean, bigger body. Goat Marcus Colston 1:47:35.120 --> 1:47:38.320 and Drew Brees. I feel like invented that back shoulder 1:47:38.320 --> 1:47:41.559 fade that that teams love to use so much these days, 1:47:41.560 --> 1:47:45.320 exactly with Marquis Colston gone. They need that big body 1:47:45.720 --> 1:47:48.320 tread well fits the bill. So I think that's another 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:50.200 name you have to think of here. Yeah, well the 1:47:50.760 --> 1:47:53.200 I I really I expect it to be defense if 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:56.360 I'm guessing though, Yeah, I think that Again. We've talked 1:47:56.360 --> 1:48:00.920 about the possibilities Miles Jack. We've talked about ranking you know, 1:48:01.120 --> 1:48:03.840 man that that that's a nice player fallunteer right there, 1:48:04.320 --> 1:48:07.400 you know, at at that twelve spot if in fact, 1:48:07.439 --> 1:48:09.479 but we've kind of thought that's where Rankins was going 1:48:09.560 --> 1:48:12.559 to be. Shack Lawson was another guy that we thought 1:48:12.680 --> 1:48:16.000 might be some there somewhere between twelve and fifteen on 1:48:16.080 --> 1:48:18.240 the board, and he loved for Shack Lawson. Here they've 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.080 got Cam Jordan, but I mean the junior gonna let 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:23.320 thing blew up in their face. They could absolutely use 1:48:23.320 --> 1:48:27.040 a pass rusher um and honestly, I mean y'all correct, 1:48:27.280 --> 1:48:29.040 and they're they're a little bit of a hybrid team. 1:48:29.040 --> 1:48:31.760 But I think Shack Lawson could probably stand up if 1:48:31.760 --> 1:48:34.599 they wanted him to, or no teams worked him out 1:48:34.880 --> 1:48:37.120 in that type of I don't know if I would 1:48:37.160 --> 1:48:40.519 definitely put him in that role myself. I think he's 1:48:40.560 --> 1:48:42.400 I think he could play either end. I think he 1:48:42.520 --> 1:48:44.519 I think he could play though as a you know, 1:48:44.600 --> 1:48:46.880 the Saints going back though to more of a you know, 1:48:46.960 --> 1:48:50.360 with Dennis Allen as a defensive corey. I mean we 1:48:50.400 --> 1:48:53.360 see more you know, four three stuff it used to be. 1:48:53.960 --> 1:48:56.640 It used to be though with Rob Ryan, you know, 1:48:57.880 --> 1:49:00.960 one gap principles and that type of thing. Yeah, well, 1:49:00.960 --> 1:49:04.640 the the Saints have forty five seconds and is this 1:49:04.760 --> 1:49:07.080 and not to not to beat a dead horse, but 1:49:07.680 --> 1:49:10.840 Laramie Tunsil following this far down the board. I mean, 1:49:10.880 --> 1:49:13.600 it's gonna continue to throw things. And I mean the 1:49:13.640 --> 1:49:16.080 Saints probably had no intention of looking at tackle. They 1:49:16.160 --> 1:49:18.920 just drafted andrews Pete last year. But when a guy 1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:21.160 like this falls to you and you have a thirty 1:49:21.200 --> 1:49:23.360 seven year old quarterback, maybe you take a look. I 1:49:23.360 --> 1:49:25.400 don't know. I mean they have they have Toronto Armstead too, 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:28.439 so maybe that's not something they want to do. Maybe 1:49:28.520 --> 1:49:32.200 the talent is too too fantastic to pass up. Yeah, 1:49:32.240 --> 1:49:34.960 I just we we've we've thrown a lot of names 1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:37.840 at you right now, and and and that's and that's 1:49:37.840 --> 1:49:40.000 the great thing about this. And the Saints have to 1:49:40.080 --> 1:49:43.840 feel good about the names that are on that board. Sure, 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:45.880 I mean we we we brought up we what do 1:49:45.960 --> 1:49:48.880 you have tunsil like on your board? Number four? You 1:49:48.960 --> 1:49:50.639 have a number one and I have number four. Your 1:49:50.680 --> 1:49:53.000 number four and your number one player are still available 1:49:53.080 --> 1:49:58.000 at twelve. That's amazingable. Ye see, that's the thing about it, though, 1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:01.559 that I find it's we we watched the tape. We 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:04.320 we look at you know, we don't get the access 1:50:04.400 --> 1:50:07.759 to player backgrounds and all this other mean, the medical 1:50:07.760 --> 1:50:10.400 stuff we get very very late. So you know anyway, 1:50:10.439 --> 1:50:12.240 but uh, I think we're making to stand up right 1:50:12.240 --> 1:50:13.599 there here we go. Put him right over there, Dane. 1:50:13.640 --> 1:50:15.400 That'd be fine. You just put him right there. We're 1:50:15.439 --> 1:50:17.920 being joined. Yeah, here's the happiest man at Valley Ranch 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:23.639 right now. Yeah. Coach coach Garry Brown welcoming running backs 1:50:23.640 --> 1:50:25.920 coach Gary Brown. Yeah, program, how are you, sir? I'm 1:50:25.960 --> 1:50:27.960 doing well. How's everybody good to have you here? Coach 1:50:28.080 --> 1:50:32.280 Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, we're all we're all excited for you. 1:50:32.360 --> 1:50:34.680 A matter of fact. In war room cam, yeah, we 1:50:34.720 --> 1:50:36.479 want to talk to you about this. Yeah. We saw 1:50:36.520 --> 1:50:38.800 you make an early appearance in war Room came you 1:50:38.840 --> 1:50:40.640 came in right around the start of the draft, and 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:43.000 we were thinking, well, if coach Brown's in there, I 1:50:43.040 --> 1:50:46.120 wonder what that means. Yeah, yeah, well is that the 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:48.719 b is that the basic gist of the conversation y'all had. Well, 1:50:48.880 --> 1:50:50.960 you know, I got called in by Coach Garrett and 1:50:50.960 --> 1:50:53.040 he asked me to do a you know, a favor 1:50:53.080 --> 1:50:55.439 for him. So I did the favor, and uh it 1:50:55.560 --> 1:50:57.400 worked out the way we was supposed to work out. Okay, 1:50:57.400 --> 1:50:59.120 we're real quick though. We got coach here, we got 1:50:59.240 --> 1:51:00.960 now we got Zeke on the line too with us, 1:51:00.960 --> 1:51:05.479 so I mean he's going so Zeke, it's uh, it's 1:51:05.520 --> 1:51:08.519 Brian and the crew here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 1:51:08.640 --> 1:51:13.840 Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys for how you guys doing 1:51:13.960 --> 1:51:15.920 doing great? Thank you? We got we got your coach. 1:51:16.000 --> 1:51:18.800 Gary Brown's here with us, and I'll let Coach Brown 1:51:18.880 --> 1:51:21.760 start the start the talk here. What's going on? Zeke? 1:51:22.200 --> 1:51:27.040 Are you doing? Brown? I'm ready? You ready? Are you ready? Hey? Hey? 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:28.400 It's time to go out and do what we need 1:51:28.439 --> 1:51:31.559 to do? Oh hey, Zeke? When when the whole process, 1:51:31.920 --> 1:51:33.960 you know, Coach Brown got to got a chance to 1:51:34.000 --> 1:51:36.880 come to Columbus and work you out there and get 1:51:36.920 --> 1:51:38.320 to know you a little bit more and then you 1:51:38.400 --> 1:51:41.400 came in for the for the the thirty visits. Can 1:51:41.439 --> 1:51:42.800 you talk a little bit about it? And I don't 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:44.120 want to put you too much on the spot here, 1:51:44.160 --> 1:51:45.800 but you know with coach being here, but talk about 1:51:45.840 --> 1:51:48.080 just a little bit of a relationship you're able to 1:51:48.120 --> 1:51:51.759 develop with coach Brown here close Brown, we got along 1:51:52.200 --> 1:51:54.200 very well. You know I could sell that you gotta 1:51:54.720 --> 1:51:56.960 definitely the man all out of me and that's exactly 1:51:56.960 --> 1:51:59.840 what I want on the coach. Well that's you know. 1:52:00.080 --> 1:52:02.920 And and coach talk about you know what your thoughts 1:52:02.920 --> 1:52:05.040 with about Zee, Well, I'll tell you. We went down 1:52:05.080 --> 1:52:08.920 to Columbus and uh, he was professional, he was ready 1:52:08.920 --> 1:52:11.479 to roll. He did everything that was was asked of 1:52:11.560 --> 1:52:13.920 him and didn't and didn't blink. And then we went 1:52:13.960 --> 1:52:15.840 to lunch. He was he was just a great guy. 1:52:15.920 --> 1:52:17.840 You know, he sat down, we talked about a lot 1:52:17.880 --> 1:52:20.439 of things other than football, and uh, you know, I 1:52:20.479 --> 1:52:21.640 knew this is the type of guy I wanted to 1:52:21.680 --> 1:52:23.160 be around. And I went that guy in my room 1:52:23.720 --> 1:52:27.120 and I'm glad we got him, Coach, And you mentioned 1:52:27.120 --> 1:52:29.439 the room, I mean, uh, no shortage of talent there. 1:52:29.800 --> 1:52:31.880 You got Zeke you got another number four pick, and 1:52:31.960 --> 1:52:34.040 Darren McFadden you got a two time pro bowler. What 1:52:34.160 --> 1:52:36.719 I mean, what does this do do for y'all? Obviously, 1:52:36.680 --> 1:52:38.559 I mean you have so much talent, but just the 1:52:38.600 --> 1:52:40.720 amount of ability that you have to work with. Well, 1:52:40.760 --> 1:52:43.120 I think what happens is I think that the room 1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:47.559 becomes better with Zeke and it's strong, but now it's stronger. 1:52:47.800 --> 1:52:50.720 I think we have a great mature room that's going 1:52:50.760 --> 1:52:54.320 to help Zeke develop. And you know, Darren, like I 1:52:54.360 --> 1:52:59.280 told Zeke before, Darren is a very mature man. He understands, uh, 1:52:59.320 --> 1:53:01.680 what it is to be a role model and in 1:53:01.760 --> 1:53:03.679 the leader in the room, and he's gonna do everything 1:53:03.680 --> 1:53:05.679 he needs to do to help Zeke get to where 1:53:05.680 --> 1:53:07.439 he needs to be. Yeah, and I want to ask you, 1:53:07.520 --> 1:53:10.120 Zeke about the about the situation there, you know, and 1:53:10.200 --> 1:53:12.320 when we got to visit with you at the combine, 1:53:12.760 --> 1:53:14.720 we were all very excited to see you up on 1:53:14.760 --> 1:53:17.120 the podium and talk about you know, you take a 1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:19.800 lot of pride and the type of physical player you are, 1:53:19.920 --> 1:53:22.320 the blocking and all that. And I know watching coach 1:53:22.360 --> 1:53:24.720 Brown coaching, he coaches these running backs hard on that 1:53:24.760 --> 1:53:27.120 blocking though, But talk about how much pride you have 1:53:27.280 --> 1:53:29.200 in You know, everybody knows you run the ball, you 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:32.479 catch the ball, but talk about your blocking stuff. You know, 1:53:32.640 --> 1:53:36.960 blocking the prior song is part of my game. When 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:38.679 I got some while, I'll say that I I was a 1:53:38.760 --> 1:53:42.120 skinny neck seventeen year old team with a bunch of 1:53:42.120 --> 1:53:44.839 grown man so I don't figure out how much separate 1:53:45.439 --> 1:53:47.200 from these guys who are a bigger fass in song 1:53:47.320 --> 1:53:50.040 than me. And I was like, man, I'm not only lucky, 1:53:50.400 --> 1:53:52.679 I gotta I'm gonna play harder him and I'm gonna 1:53:52.680 --> 1:53:55.280 do what they don't want to do. Right, That's that's 1:53:55.280 --> 1:53:58.400 what came block and uh at that planet side, I 1:53:58.400 --> 1:54:02.040 was gonna become the best blocking and that's all that did. There. 1:54:02.040 --> 1:54:04.360 You go, Zeke, we got we got you on the 1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:07.120 line and coach you obviously played running back in your day. 1:54:07.600 --> 1:54:09.840 We've heard so much over the last few years about 1:54:09.920 --> 1:54:13.240 devaluing the running back position. We see Todd Gurley go 1:54:13.320 --> 1:54:16.120 ten last year. Zeke obviously at four. I mean, what 1:54:16.160 --> 1:54:18.320 does that say to y'all about what NFL team is about? 1:54:18.320 --> 1:54:20.960 Think about running back? I think what happens is you 1:54:20.960 --> 1:54:23.280 get they get devalue when you don't have them, you 1:54:23.320 --> 1:54:27.040 know what I mean. It's like, if you don't have one, 1:54:27.080 --> 1:54:28.800 you don't really think you need one. You don't need 1:54:28.840 --> 1:54:30.519 one till as third one. You don't need one until 1:54:30.520 --> 1:54:32.720 it's goal line. You don't need one to you need 1:54:32.720 --> 1:54:36.040 to grind the ball out in four minutes. So that 1:54:36.200 --> 1:54:39.480 devalue thing I think is overblown. I think when you 1:54:39.560 --> 1:54:42.400 have talented runners, you take them where they need to 1:54:42.400 --> 1:54:44.920 be taken. Zeke obviously deserved to go at four. He 1:54:44.960 --> 1:54:47.760 went at four, and they're going to be more guys 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:50.960 that go. So uh. The running backs are making a comeback. 1:54:51.040 --> 1:54:53.320 That's all I can see, you know. Gurley got it 1:54:53.360 --> 1:54:55.840 started last year, Gordon got it started last year, and 1:54:55.920 --> 1:54:58.000 we're gonna, you know, with Zeke going, we're gonna try 1:54:58.000 --> 1:54:59.840 to get this thing back strong again with the backs. 1:55:00.000 --> 1:55:01.760 It's great. Well, hey, Zeke, thank you so much for 1:55:01.840 --> 1:55:03.680 joining us again. We look forward to seeing you when 1:55:03.680 --> 1:55:06.600 you get to Dallas and uh and uh best of 1:55:06.680 --> 1:55:08.400 luck to you and look forward to it here. Wait, 1:55:08.440 --> 1:55:10.560 Coach Brown's got one more thing to say. Yeah, Zeke, hey, 1:55:10.640 --> 1:55:12.560 I text you. I know you don't know the number, 1:55:12.920 --> 1:55:15.360 all right, it's a five seven zero number hitting me back. 1:55:15.400 --> 1:55:20.200 Don't they don't avoid me? All right, Zeke, thank you 1:55:20.240 --> 1:55:21.800 so much for joining us for look for to seeing 1:55:21.920 --> 1:55:25.400 we get the Valley Ranch. Okay, all right, thank you? 1:55:25.640 --> 1:55:28.360 All right. I mean talk about the process though a 1:55:28.360 --> 1:55:30.960 little bit. Okay. I mean it was you know, there's 1:55:31.000 --> 1:55:33.440 a lot of quality backs and and and you know, 1:55:33.440 --> 1:55:35.360 it's not often like David was saying, it's not often 1:55:35.400 --> 1:55:38.200 that that the running back gets to go. I mean, 1:55:38.280 --> 1:55:40.360 we've seen what happened with Murray and the money and 1:55:40.400 --> 1:55:42.840 all that. I mean, you must have made a hell 1:55:42.880 --> 1:55:45.680 of the pitch to get this. Well. I think he 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:48.120 did most of the work. He put it out on tape. 1:55:48.600 --> 1:55:50.680 I was just able to you know, put it together 1:55:50.760 --> 1:55:53.800 and put it into a tape and in my words, 1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:57.680 my report that you know, uh, that the guys that 1:55:57.760 --> 1:55:59.840 were making the decisions could see it and understand what 1:55:59.880 --> 1:56:01.880 he would mean to our football team. I think what's 1:56:01.880 --> 1:56:04.440 going to happen is and Coach Garrett has said it 1:56:04.440 --> 1:56:08.280 all along. This guy's gonna help every fastival food absolutely so. Um, 1:56:09.000 --> 1:56:10.720 you know, it wasn't it wasn't just me, it was 1:56:10.720 --> 1:56:13.720 everybody on board. The whole coaching style was on board, 1:56:13.800 --> 1:56:15.840 and we just wanted this guy because we felt that 1:56:15.880 --> 1:56:19.720 he could help our whole team, not just the offense. Coach, 1:56:19.760 --> 1:56:22.240 we know that he's very well arounded as a player. 1:56:22.520 --> 1:56:24.760 What do you think he does best? I think he's 1:56:24.760 --> 1:56:27.560 probably the most complete babb in coaching NFL for eight years. 1:56:27.600 --> 1:56:31.120 He's the most complete back that I've been able to scout. Ye. Now, 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:33.320 when I say complete, he can catch, he can run, 1:56:33.440 --> 1:56:35.560 he can block, he can run routes from any position 1:56:35.600 --> 1:56:38.240 on the field. He's the most complete guy I've been 1:56:38.240 --> 1:56:41.200 around eight years doing this. So when you get guys 1:56:41.200 --> 1:56:42.520 like that and you get an opportunity to get him, 1:56:42.520 --> 1:56:44.800 you gotta go get him because they're going to elevate 1:56:44.960 --> 1:56:48.040 everything around you. Now, Coach Brown, thank you so much 1:56:48.040 --> 1:56:50.480 for this one of the folks. If you ever have 1:56:50.560 --> 1:56:52.520 the opportunity we're out at training camp or whatever, you 1:56:52.520 --> 1:56:54.640 get to see Coach Brown coach him up. He's one 1:56:54.640 --> 1:56:56.840 of the good ones. He's a teacher and he'll get 1:56:56.880 --> 1:56:58.520 all he can out of him. I've got to. I mean, 1:56:58.560 --> 1:57:00.320 it's not a surprise to you, obviously. I mean this 1:57:00.360 --> 1:57:02.720 is such an intensive process. You guys went to Columbus 1:57:02.760 --> 1:57:04.880 all that good stuff, But when you got the call 1:57:05.040 --> 1:57:07.000 from Jason to come into the war room. I mean, 1:57:07.080 --> 1:57:08.960 what was what was your thought process? What were your emotion? 1:57:09.000 --> 1:57:11.640 It's pretty excited when they called me, and I figured, well, 1:57:12.600 --> 1:57:14.600 it must be close to picking him. So when I 1:57:14.640 --> 1:57:15.800 went in there, you know, he asked me to do 1:57:15.880 --> 1:57:18.480 a favor for him and I did the favor, and yeah, 1:57:18.600 --> 1:57:20.320 I felt really good after I did the favor. So 1:57:20.560 --> 1:57:22.160 can you can you tell us feel good? Can you 1:57:22.200 --> 1:57:23.560 tell us what the favor was? Well, it was just 1:57:23.600 --> 1:57:25.480 a calling just to call him, see where he was, 1:57:25.480 --> 1:57:27.640 see if anybody was trying to talk to him or 1:57:27.640 --> 1:57:29.520 trade up or whatever, like dad, get a feel for him. 1:57:29.560 --> 1:57:31.760 And that was it. It was nothing really major. But 1:57:31.800 --> 1:57:34.600 when I've heard his voice and heard the excitement and 1:57:34.680 --> 1:57:36.640 I heard Jason's excitement, it really made me feel good 1:57:36.640 --> 1:57:38.560 they were gonna be able to get the special guy. Well, coach, 1:57:38.600 --> 1:57:40.760 thank you so much for joining us for aciate. Absolutely 1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:44.280 congratulational and getting your guys. Absolutely it's gonna be Jerry 1:57:44.280 --> 1:57:47.920 Brown the most interesting position to watch absolutely boys campus year. 1:57:47.960 --> 1:57:50.880 Thanks again, coach, we appreciate that. Okay, we're gonna have 1:57:51.040 --> 1:57:53.800 some We're gonna have some press conference stuff coming up. 1:57:54.080 --> 1:57:57.120 Just to just to recap here at the Saints in fact, 1:57:57.120 --> 1:58:00.400 didn't make the pick of Sheldon Rankins at twelve. Laramie 1:58:00.480 --> 1:58:07.080 Tunsel picked with the Dolphins thirteen. So Laramie Tunsel goes 1:58:07.160 --> 1:58:13.960 from Sheldon Rankings. So thanks everybody to thank Zeke, Thank coach. 1:58:14.040 --> 1:58:16.600 That's a lot of juggling going on there. Thanks everybody, 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:18.440 Kent you guys in there for getting that all done. 1:58:19.000 --> 1:58:22.120 We're gonna we're gonna look at going to UH to 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:26.520 the press conference coming up with UH with UH with 1:58:26.680 --> 1:58:30.440 Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett. That should be 1:58:30.520 --> 1:58:33.840 coming up momentarily. Again. The picks has just been made. 1:58:34.360 --> 1:58:39.040 Eli Apple ten to the Giants, Vernon Hargraves eleven to 1:58:39.280 --> 1:58:43.320 Tampa Bay Sheldon Rankings. The very talented defensive tackle from 1:58:43.360 --> 1:58:46.880 Louisville goes to the Saints and then the Miami Dolphins 1:58:46.920 --> 1:58:50.440 in the weight and the agony of Laramie Tunsel, the 1:58:50.520 --> 1:58:53.960 offensive tackle from Old Miss. The talent is just too 1:58:54.120 --> 1:58:56.840 good to pass up to sin and and that's and 1:58:56.960 --> 1:59:00.200 that's that's one of those risk and reward we'll get. 1:59:00.280 --> 1:59:02.880 We'll get the story one day. It's nice to see 1:59:04.040 --> 1:59:06.440 as an LSU man and they'll always cheer for an 1:59:06.480 --> 1:59:08.400 old miss guy. But right there, I'm happy for that 1:59:08.480 --> 1:59:10.640 kid because I know it was a very difficult time 1:59:10.680 --> 1:59:13.560 for him sitting there and watching that all transpire. He 1:59:13.600 --> 1:59:15.120 looked like he was having a rough go of it 1:59:15.120 --> 1:59:17.520 when the cameras were cutting to him during that whole process. Okay, 1:59:17.520 --> 1:59:19.920 the Oakland Raiders are on the clock right now. They've 1:59:19.960 --> 1:59:24.200 got four minutes and forty seconds, Dane, he's your number 1:59:24.240 --> 1:59:28.320 one player, Tunsil on your board. Talk about the talent 1:59:28.520 --> 1:59:31.520 that we see in Laramie Tunsil. Yeah, it's it's a 1:59:31.600 --> 1:59:34.760 situation here where he was the best player that I've 1:59:34.800 --> 1:59:37.760 scouted in the last year playing and simple top draft 1:59:37.840 --> 1:59:40.640 eligible player. In my opinion, some guys were born to 1:59:40.680 --> 1:59:42.800 be left tackles, and that's Laramie Tunsil. It's just so 1:59:42.960 --> 1:59:46.160 natural for him. His body control, as athleticism both in 1:59:46.240 --> 1:59:50.080 his kick slide and also his ability to mirror in space, 1:59:50.360 --> 1:59:52.880 his ability to reset on the move, plays with power, 1:59:52.960 --> 1:59:56.400 plays with quickness. Again, he just has everything you want 1:59:56.400 --> 1:59:58.280 in a left tackle. You can plug and play for 1:59:58.320 --> 2:00:01.360 a long time. The question and the only reason he 2:00:01.400 --> 2:00:04.720 has fallen to this point is the character concerns and 2:00:04.720 --> 2:00:07.240 and the worry about you know, can you trust him? 2:00:07.280 --> 2:00:10.320 So time will tell if the Dolphins end up getting 2:00:10.320 --> 2:00:12.760 a steal at this point or if he fell for 2:00:13.080 --> 2:00:15.160 a good reason and the and the Dolphins are taking 2:00:15.160 --> 2:00:17.720 a risk here, well, you probably are going to get 2:00:17.800 --> 2:00:21.440 a player that has a chip on his shoulder right now. 2:00:21.480 --> 2:00:24.600 And he has to be very relieved by this. And 2:00:24.640 --> 2:00:27.120 I'm sure that he's telling everybody they'll listen that he's 2:00:27.160 --> 2:00:28.920 ready to go to work and do what he has 2:00:28.960 --> 2:00:32.400 to do to be successless. League and Dane, I think 2:00:32.400 --> 2:00:35.560 you hit the nail on the head with this player, 2:00:35.720 --> 2:00:38.520 you know, And and he is a when you watch 2:00:38.640 --> 2:00:41.280 him play out of a two point stance, he is 2:00:41.360 --> 2:00:43.320 he is tough. I mean he is. He is a 2:00:43.560 --> 2:00:46.440 When he sets on you, he gets his arms extended. 2:00:46.760 --> 2:00:51.120 He's very athletic, his footwork is outstanding. A little trouble 2:00:51.120 --> 2:00:54.440 when he gets a little too high with his with 2:00:54.640 --> 2:00:58.040 his set. But other than that, man, he is a 2:00:58.040 --> 2:01:01.320 guy that is an all day sucker when it comes 2:01:01.360 --> 2:01:04.360 to having to play against him. So the Miami Dolphins 2:01:04.360 --> 2:01:08.160 got damn a very very good football. Yeah, there's no question. 2:01:08.200 --> 2:01:11.240 And with Tunsil, I don't think this is. This isn't 2:01:11.240 --> 2:01:14.560 a bad guy. It's more of a decision making issue. 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:17.040 This is a player who was suspended seven games as 2:01:17.080 --> 2:01:20.560 a junior for nca in fractions. Uh. You know, he 2:01:20.840 --> 2:01:23.160 has dealt with some injuries and you know he's currently 2:01:23.160 --> 2:01:25.600 in a family situation, and you don't want to when 2:01:25.600 --> 2:01:27.360 you're drafting a player. You don't want to bring that 2:01:27.480 --> 2:01:30.240 drama into your locker room, into your franchise. You want 2:01:30.240 --> 2:01:32.600 to draft a player that's going to represent your team 2:01:32.600 --> 2:01:36.000 and your organization with the ultimate class. And Tunsel is 2:01:36.000 --> 2:01:38.160 a I believe in him as a person. You know, 2:01:38.200 --> 2:01:39.720 I've talked to enough people that I think he's a 2:01:39.720 --> 2:01:42.400 good person. It's just the decision making. Can you trust him? 2:01:42.520 --> 2:01:44.520 And so it's a risk at this point, but I 2:01:44.560 --> 2:01:47.280 think the reward is worth it. Yeah, And I dave 2:01:47.360 --> 2:01:50.200 any thoughts on Laramy tunsel I and I you know, 2:01:50.240 --> 2:01:53.960 I'm reading I'm reading my Twitter feed with with all 2:01:54.000 --> 2:01:57.720 of this stuff that's coming out since then, and I 2:01:57.760 --> 2:01:59.200 think the Dolphins are going to come out of this 2:01:59.200 --> 2:02:01.760 looking all right. To be totally honest with you, like, yeah, 2:02:01.920 --> 2:02:04.600 you've done your homework on this guy. What I mean, 2:02:04.880 --> 2:02:07.360 have we heard anything about a failed drug test, I 2:02:07.360 --> 2:02:09.840 mean at the combine or anything like that. The only 2:02:09.880 --> 2:02:13.400 thing that was alarming was the Kenichi thing. Was he 2:02:13.480 --> 2:02:16.080 was involved or not? He almost pronounced that right by 2:02:16.080 --> 2:02:19.960 the way, almost Kenichi kimchi Chi. Yeah, just act like 2:02:20.000 --> 2:02:22.360 the inn isn't there. I didn't. I tried not to, 2:02:22.440 --> 2:02:24.560 but I was just excited to try and get the 2:02:24.600 --> 2:02:27.400 word out. It is concerning. And yeah when that when 2:02:27.440 --> 2:02:29.720 when kim Diechi talked about him at the combine, it 2:02:29.880 --> 2:02:34.520 was but there's no no red flags have actively happened 2:02:34.520 --> 2:02:37.640 that we know about during this process. Uh, it doesn't. 2:02:37.680 --> 2:02:39.560 I mean, it doesn't sound like this video was filmed 2:02:39.600 --> 2:02:43.120 today or anything like that. Uh. And so I don't know. 2:02:43.160 --> 2:02:46.000 Maybe I'm wrong, you know, but I just have a 2:02:46.000 --> 2:02:47.560 feeling that Dolphins are going to come out of this 2:02:48.000 --> 2:02:50.520 feeling pretty good about this. Okay, the Oakland Raiders are 2:02:50.600 --> 2:02:53.440 on the clock. The pick is going to be in. 2:02:53.680 --> 2:02:56.000 And even if they don't, sorry, but even if they don't, 2:02:56.080 --> 2:02:58.320 you talk. I mean, Gregory was worth the risk at 2:02:58.360 --> 2:03:01.720 sixty tons is widely considered the best player in this 2:03:01.880 --> 2:03:04.640 entire draft, all the way down at thirteen. I think 2:03:04.680 --> 2:03:07.600 it's worth the risk. Yeah, absolutely, I'd say, so Raiders 2:03:07.640 --> 2:03:09.400 on the clock or a sum pick is in for 2:03:09.440 --> 2:03:12.120 the Raiders. We'll see which direction they go, lineback or 2:03:12.800 --> 2:03:17.080 inside defensive line help potentially and potentially are running back 2:03:18.160 --> 2:03:21.920 any direction? You think that anybody as you look at 2:03:21.960 --> 2:03:25.600 your board, is there somebody that that we've talked about 2:03:25.680 --> 2:03:28.879 Miles Jack? Say they brought in Miles Jack for a workout, 2:03:28.960 --> 2:03:30.800 so they they've done a lot of work on Miles Jack. 2:03:30.840 --> 2:03:32.600 I think, you know, this is the range where we 2:03:32.600 --> 2:03:35.440 could see him off the board. Reggie Raglan can be 2:03:35.520 --> 2:03:38.240 that inside linebacker they've been looking for. It looks like 2:03:38.280 --> 2:03:41.320 we have the pick. Yeah, Commissioners going to the podium 2:03:41.400 --> 2:03:45.160 right now, and we'll see Raiders Raiders at the pick 2:03:45.280 --> 2:03:51.120 number fourteen. Here we go, with the fourteenth pick in 2:03:51.200 --> 2:03:55.600 the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select 2:03:56.320 --> 2:04:02.680 Carl joseph Is. That is surprised to me. It's very surprising, 2:04:02.960 --> 2:04:05.360 and like right before the draft started, I was like 2:04:05.440 --> 2:04:07.120 talking to Dan, I was like, you think he sneaks 2:04:07.120 --> 2:04:09.200 into the first round. Do you think you think maybe 2:04:09.280 --> 2:04:13.400 they'll be there? He was like maybe. I mocked him 2:04:13.400 --> 2:04:15.760 at twenty one in my final mock draft I did 2:04:15.840 --> 2:04:17.720 think he would sneak into that first round, but it 2:04:17.800 --> 2:04:20.160 is surprising to see him go top fifteen. This is 2:04:20.200 --> 2:04:22.640 an undisciplined version of Earl Thomas is who he is, 2:04:22.640 --> 2:04:24.840 and he's also coming off major knee surgery. So right, 2:04:25.120 --> 2:04:27.600 those are the red flags. But you know the pros 2:04:27.680 --> 2:04:30.080 with Karl Joseph as the dude flies all over the 2:04:30.120 --> 2:04:32.920 field and he flies around with reckless of bandon. He 2:04:33.120 --> 2:04:36.280 is a missile. He'll knock you into tomorrow. He's that 2:04:36.360 --> 2:04:39.120 type of player. So I get it. You know, if 2:04:39.160 --> 2:04:40.640 you're going to draft him this high, you have to 2:04:40.720 --> 2:04:44.160 kind of ignore the negative because he's going to miss 2:04:44.160 --> 2:04:47.000 some tackles and at that size, the way he plays 2:04:47.040 --> 2:04:49.080 the game, how long can he hold up? Does he 2:04:49.200 --> 2:04:52.640 have the durability to you know, be a seven year pro. 2:04:53.080 --> 2:04:55.480 I'm not convinced because he is a little undersized and 2:04:55.560 --> 2:04:58.600 the violent way he plays the game, he's welcoming. He's 2:04:58.640 --> 2:05:00.840 going to welcome injuries, and so I have some questions 2:05:00.880 --> 2:05:03.440 about the pick, but hey, it's a chance to risk, 2:05:03.480 --> 2:05:06.040 and the Raiders that their track record in the first 2:05:06.080 --> 2:05:08.320 round the last few years has been very good, and 2:05:08.400 --> 2:05:10.840 so uh, it's going to be interesting. To see him. Well, 2:05:10.840 --> 2:05:12.800 the Hayden pick wasn't good has been good for him 2:05:12.840 --> 2:05:17.760 if you know the last two two drafts. Right, absolutely absolutely, 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:19.520 you're right about that. And I and I'll tell you 2:05:19.560 --> 2:05:22.040 what I I thought that maybe that we were talking 2:05:22.080 --> 2:05:26.240 about Karl Joseph at thirty four. Maybe that was what 2:05:26.280 --> 2:05:30.440 I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe that was. I think somebody 2:05:30.480 --> 2:05:32.800 on our staff mocked him at thirty four. Maybe not today, 2:05:32.880 --> 2:05:35.560 but in the last week or so, right, I mean 2:05:35.760 --> 2:05:37.920 I always assumed he was somewhere in that twenty five 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:40.800 to forty range. I'll tell you what you do. Watch 2:05:40.880 --> 2:05:43.600 him play, though he is a blur on tape. He 2:05:43.960 --> 2:05:47.320 comes flying forward, He's very physical and but I will 2:05:47.360 --> 2:05:50.640 say this though he will also miss Big two. He 2:05:50.920 --> 2:05:53.800 will he will, he will come for and you'll see 2:05:53.880 --> 2:05:56.920 him just flat missed the guy and it missed the 2:05:56.920 --> 2:06:00.280 ballcare in space. But when he when he connects X, 2:06:00.600 --> 2:06:03.040 it's a knockout blow. There's no doubt about that. A 2:06:03.040 --> 2:06:06.000 little bit of breaking news that Zeke Elliott is wearing 2:06:06.080 --> 2:06:10.400 number twenty one. Hey, huh, there we go. I was 2:06:10.400 --> 2:06:12.080 gonna say, he's gonna have to buy that off. Terrence 2:06:12.160 --> 2:06:16.080 mention or number fifteen in college, and we wondered, you know, 2:06:16.160 --> 2:06:19.200 and talk about twenty two, talk about you know, maybe 2:06:19.240 --> 2:06:21.760 twenty five, but twenty one. Okay, if fits him, So 2:06:21.840 --> 2:06:24.160 here we go. If he yeah, twenty one. So everybody 2:06:24.160 --> 2:06:27.360 out there order your Zeke jerseys in the I don't 2:06:27.400 --> 2:06:29.680 think we can cut them in half. We can't crop him. 2:06:30.360 --> 2:06:32.760 I kind of I wish I was a Cowboys fan, 2:06:32.840 --> 2:06:34.879 because I would you get a Zeke jer would absolutely 2:06:34.960 --> 2:06:36.480 go I only get to hit you in the face 2:06:36.560 --> 2:06:39.160 on Twitter if it was at thirty four. Right, you're done. 2:06:39.240 --> 2:06:41.320 You can't hit me. I actually tweeted, I said, if 2:06:41.320 --> 2:06:43.400 you're gonna hit me, it's not gonna be because of that. 2:06:43.480 --> 2:06:45.160 Maybe you'll hit me by the end of the draft, 2:06:45.680 --> 2:06:47.720 but it won't be because of Zeke. Well that's that's 2:06:47.720 --> 2:06:49.720 the pro shops missing out if they don't release some 2:06:49.800 --> 2:06:54.440 kind of crop top. Right, Yeah, I apolize on that. Hey, 2:06:54.520 --> 2:06:56.520 he's a pro athlete. Now, Zeke would be crazy if 2:06:56.520 --> 2:06:58.200 he doesn't try to make a crop top. He can 2:06:58.280 --> 2:06:59.760 make his own. He can make his own. I'm sure 2:06:59.800 --> 2:07:02.640 those in practices that will be a big part of 2:07:02.680 --> 2:07:06.720 his wardrobe. So let's recap though the last say the 2:07:06.760 --> 2:07:11.520 last five picks. Karl Joseph goes to the Oakland Raiders 2:07:11.560 --> 2:07:16.040 at fourteen Laramie Tunsel the fall stops from him for him, 2:07:16.080 --> 2:07:19.360 excuse me at thirteen to the Dolphins. Sheldon Rankin's a 2:07:19.440 --> 2:07:23.919 very talented three technique for the New Orleans Saints at twelve, 2:07:24.360 --> 2:07:29.000 Vernon Hargraves the quarterback from Florida at eleven, and then 2:07:29.000 --> 2:07:32.920 Eli Apple, the cornerback from Ohio State, goes to the 2:07:32.960 --> 2:07:35.960 New York Giants. The Cleveland brown This is going to 2:07:36.040 --> 2:07:38.480 be interesting because on the clock there's a few options here. 2:07:38.680 --> 2:07:41.320 Wide receiver is the most glaring need on the roster 2:07:41.360 --> 2:07:44.200 besides quarterback. They need playmakers, and they have their choice 2:07:44.200 --> 2:07:47.160 of all the receivers on the board here. It's also 2:07:47.240 --> 2:07:50.200 possible landing spot from Miles Jack. They've done a lot 2:07:50.240 --> 2:07:52.920 of work on Miles Jack as well, so that's a possibility. 2:07:52.960 --> 2:07:55.840 So the Browns whun't shock me if they traded back again. 2:07:56.160 --> 2:07:57.920 So a couple of different things could be in the 2:07:57.920 --> 2:08:02.280 works here. Okay, well that's uh, you know, I'm I'm 2:08:02.320 --> 2:08:04.880 interested because they're gonna finally pick. I think they're gonna 2:08:04.920 --> 2:08:07.400 stand in makeup and the Browns finally have to add 2:08:07.440 --> 2:08:10.200 somebody today, they've had they've had a Hey, you know 2:08:10.240 --> 2:08:12.680 what the way this has all gone, I mean, there's 2:08:12.720 --> 2:08:14.520 still a lot of good players there. Let me ask 2:08:14.520 --> 2:08:16.960 you guys a question. If you're with we've seen the 2:08:17.320 --> 2:08:20.680 war room cam is covered, look like there's anybody in there. Yeah, 2:08:20.680 --> 2:08:22.520 and oh, well they're doing their press cout right, But 2:08:22.560 --> 2:08:26.120 do you whitpoint time do we reconvene in that room 2:08:26.120 --> 2:08:28.480 and maybe think about jumping into this draft? Well that 2:08:28.560 --> 2:08:32.840 if that's the case, people are asking me. People are 2:08:32.840 --> 2:08:34.880 asking me, well they're doing what are they asking you? 2:08:34.960 --> 2:08:37.000 They're doing their press conference? Right, So does that mean 2:08:37.040 --> 2:08:38.880 they're done? And I don't think so. I think they 2:08:38.880 --> 2:08:41.040 probably want to get this thing out of the way. Yeah, 2:08:41.120 --> 2:08:43.600 we're not even halfway. Well, we're just about halfway through 2:08:43.600 --> 2:08:44.920 the first round. Yeah, I want to I just they're 2:08:44.960 --> 2:08:47.360 gonna get this out of the way. They'll probably take 2:08:47.400 --> 2:08:50.040 them a half hour. They'll get back right around the 2:08:50.040 --> 2:08:52.720 time like the twenties are starting, and then they can 2:08:52.880 --> 2:08:55.320 see what they see and decide if they want to 2:08:55.360 --> 2:08:57.040 try to do so in the in the In the 2:08:57.040 --> 2:09:00.480 the mock draft we did yesterday, we talk talked about 2:09:00.520 --> 2:09:03.400 that one of the scenarios was would you be willing 2:09:03.440 --> 2:09:06.160 to part ways with what are your picks? Say one 2:09:06.200 --> 2:09:09.600 oh one to get back in And we we identified 2:09:09.640 --> 2:09:13.240 some teams as Seattle at twenty six, Green Bay at 2:09:13.240 --> 2:09:17.800 twenty seven, Kansas City at twenty eight, Arizona at twenty nine. Yeah, 2:09:17.840 --> 2:09:21.120 would you be willing to part with that? And uh? 2:09:21.280 --> 2:09:22.840 And I think the all right, I mean you look 2:09:22.840 --> 2:09:26.040 at it. Who on this board, Who's who's left that 2:09:26.120 --> 2:09:28.240 needs to make a pick that might want a quarterback? 2:09:28.320 --> 2:09:39.440 Well that Cleveland, Cleveland, Uh, the Jets, you got, Arizona, Yeah, Denver. 2:09:40.360 --> 2:09:43.320 So three or four teams could be could be the case. 2:09:43.560 --> 2:09:46.640 What you you talked about Cleveland? You you're really wired 2:09:46.680 --> 2:09:51.520 to Cleveland. Yeah. And you brought up receiver though, go 2:09:51.600 --> 2:09:54.760 through your receiver. I'm sorry. Um. Brandon George of the 2:09:54.840 --> 2:09:58.839 Dallas More News is saying cowboys are postponing their press conference, okay, 2:09:59.240 --> 2:10:02.040 and you can see some people are kind of filtering back. Okay. 2:10:02.080 --> 2:10:04.480 Maybe maybe they get something. They're gonna hang out and 2:10:04.520 --> 2:10:07.240 see maybe that if there's something worth seeing on the trade. 2:10:07.520 --> 2:10:09.760 You don't talk about the commissioner's walking in, But I 2:10:09.760 --> 2:10:11.680 thought it was an interesting point, they do not have 2:10:11.720 --> 2:10:13.840 any receivers do that? They don't. They need a wide receiver. 2:10:13.920 --> 2:10:16.960 And so do you go the big possession type try well, 2:10:17.120 --> 2:10:21.360 you go to Speeds or Corey Quill See what sixteen 2:10:21.480 --> 2:10:30.880 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns on fire the pick? I mean, 2:10:30.920 --> 2:10:33.720 that's to me, he was the number two receiver in 2:10:33.760 --> 2:10:35.720 this draft. I'm not surprised to see him go off 2:10:35.720 --> 2:10:39.520 the board first he went, I haven't high. I have 2:10:39.560 --> 2:10:41.160 a Kuan Trade will hire as well. But I think 2:10:41.240 --> 2:10:44.400 for the type of wide receiver you're looking at, Corey 2:10:44.440 --> 2:10:47.200 Coleman wins at all levels. He can win in a short, intermediate, 2:10:47.200 --> 2:10:49.960 and deep. He needs to learn the route tree. There's 2:10:50.000 --> 2:10:52.440 no question about that coming from the Baylor offense, right. 2:10:52.640 --> 2:10:55.200 But you know, a player with that talent and that 2:10:55.240 --> 2:10:57.880 competitive temperament, I think it's just a matter of time 2:10:57.880 --> 2:11:00.400 before he finds success and you know, you look at 2:11:00.440 --> 2:11:04.240 it he does. Steve Smith comparisons are rampant when you 2:11:04.240 --> 2:11:07.040 talk to people in the league about Corey Coleman. The size, 2:11:07.120 --> 2:11:09.320 but his ability to play above that size, hit, the 2:11:09.360 --> 2:11:12.480 way his anger, the way he plays, fit, tough and physical. 2:11:12.720 --> 2:11:15.120 It fits Corey Coleman. So for the Browns that need 2:11:15.120 --> 2:11:18.640 a playmaker. I love the pick. Yeah, it's actually I 2:11:18.680 --> 2:11:21.040 love two things. One you were Baylor Pro day, weren't you. 2:11:21.160 --> 2:11:23.560 I met Corey Coleman actually talked to him. He is 2:11:23.560 --> 2:11:26.640 a Dallas native. He grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan. 2:11:27.000 --> 2:11:29.360 I wrote a whole story about it. He is I I. 2:11:29.560 --> 2:11:31.920 He's a confident kid on top of the talent. He's 2:11:31.960 --> 2:11:34.760 already a Jordan guy. You know it took Deaz's years 2:11:34.760 --> 2:11:38.280 to get to that point. He has absolute confidence in himself. 2:11:38.560 --> 2:11:41.520 I like his demeanor a lot. I came away from 2:11:41.520 --> 2:11:43.320 meeting him and talking to him and watching him work 2:11:43.360 --> 2:11:47.040 out very much reminded of Odell Beckham. I don't know 2:11:47.240 --> 2:11:50.360 if he'll be O'Dell Beckham, but he certainly has. Get 2:11:50.360 --> 2:11:53.040 to see this year. How about this? You know Robert 2:11:53.040 --> 2:11:57.920 Griffin the third Uh, he leaves Baylor two two eleven 2:11:57.920 --> 2:12:00.200 for the twos and twelve draft. Corey Coleman is the 2:12:00.200 --> 2:12:02.040 Baylor in twos and twelve. So they just missed each other. 2:12:02.120 --> 2:12:03.760 Right for Corey Coleman, he had to be a little 2:12:03.800 --> 2:12:06.600 bummed missing RG three. Now they're gonna be teammates in 2:12:06.600 --> 2:12:08.840 Cleveland and he's gonna catch a few touchdown passes from 2:12:09.160 --> 2:12:11.880 RG three for the Browns. Okay, that means now the 2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:17.120 Detroit Lions are on the clock. Uh man, the Lions 2:12:17.960 --> 2:12:21.080 kind of now in the middle of really the draft here, 2:12:21.440 --> 2:12:24.840 and if we look at their team needs and what 2:12:25.000 --> 2:12:28.680 the time, big time favor to take a tackle offensive tackle? 2:12:28.760 --> 2:12:31.240 Humh yep, do you have one in mind, Dame Burglar? Well, 2:12:31.240 --> 2:12:34.520 there's only one left, I say, Taylor Decker. I mean 2:12:34.680 --> 2:12:37.000 it makes the most sense. He can play left tackle, 2:12:37.080 --> 2:12:40.280 right tackle. Uh. You know, a guy that might not 2:12:40.480 --> 2:12:44.640 be in terms of athleticism, might not might not be 2:12:44.680 --> 2:12:47.520 the most explosive, might not have the best range, but 2:12:47.600 --> 2:12:51.560 when he has a chance to sink anchor and neutralize quickness, uh, 2:12:51.600 --> 2:12:53.320 you know, he's he's a really good player, and so 2:12:53.320 --> 2:12:55.320 I think he's a plug and play. He might not 2:12:55.440 --> 2:12:57.680 have that high ceiling that you want right but he 2:12:57.720 --> 2:12:59.160 can play right now and he's going to be an 2:12:59.240 --> 2:13:01.480 NFL starter for a Yeah. The team needs number one 2:13:01.560 --> 2:13:05.200 that offensive tackle left or right major weakness, you know, 2:13:05.240 --> 2:13:07.280 they need to They need to find a way to 2:13:07.280 --> 2:13:11.560 shore up that position. And from what everybody's talking about here, 2:13:11.640 --> 2:13:15.120 the last tackle on the board for you that could 2:13:15.160 --> 2:13:18.760 be in this consideration would be Taylor Decker. So let's 2:13:18.760 --> 2:13:22.440 see if in fact that the Lions do make that pick. 2:13:22.480 --> 2:13:25.360 And remember in this draft, if you don't have that tackle, 2:13:25.440 --> 2:13:27.040 you have to get them early because they're gonna fly 2:13:27.080 --> 2:13:29.200 off the board here. This, you know, will be the 2:13:29.240 --> 2:13:32.120 fourth tackle in the top sixteen. So we're midway through 2:13:32.160 --> 2:13:35.200 the first round. Four tacklers are gone, and I think 2:13:35.200 --> 2:13:37.800 there's a good chance we see six offensive tackles drafted 2:13:38.080 --> 2:13:41.640 by the end of the night. Jermaine Effetti definitely a 2:13:41.720 --> 2:13:43.880 name to watch here. But if again, if you don't 2:13:43.880 --> 2:13:46.240 get your tackle early, you're gonna be in trouble. So 2:13:46.600 --> 2:13:49.000 look for the Lions to address that number one need. 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:51.400 They also have needs on the defense defensive end, right, 2:13:51.720 --> 2:13:55.080 They could address a few other spots, but tackle Taylor Decker. 2:13:55.320 --> 2:13:57.400 It's gonna be tough to pass on a player like that. Yeah, 2:13:57.440 --> 2:13:59.200 I think it will be too. I like what you're 2:13:59.200 --> 2:14:01.720 saying about Deck. I saw a guy that I thought 2:14:01.800 --> 2:14:04.360 was a very good athlete. You know why. A nice 2:14:04.400 --> 2:14:08.360 bass player, technically sound, you know, he fights to sustain, 2:14:08.600 --> 2:14:10.560 drive guys off the line. When he gets that double 2:14:10.600 --> 2:14:14.080 team situation, seals down can you know, can take away 2:14:14.120 --> 2:14:18.120 the corner. He's just he's a very good athlete. When 2:14:18.120 --> 2:14:20.240 you watch him play the I mean the head's not down, 2:14:20.280 --> 2:14:22.280 he doesn't play with the tops of his feet. His 2:14:22.440 --> 2:14:25.680 head's back and he's extending and he's staying in position. Okay, 2:14:25.680 --> 2:14:30.960 Commissioner Goodell's making that walk. Let's go to him. Taylor Decker. 2:14:32.760 --> 2:14:36.960 With the sixteenth pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, 2:14:37.880 --> 2:14:42.120 the Detroit Lions select Taylor Decker. Hat away, boys, good job, 2:14:42.760 --> 2:14:47.400 Buckeye number four, the boar, here we go. Yeah, Taylor Decker. 2:14:47.480 --> 2:14:49.880 And we talked about him. We talked about all the 2:14:50.360 --> 2:14:55.760 strengths about him. Uh, Like I said, yeah, Buckeye number four. 2:14:55.800 --> 2:14:57.880 If I'm not more, and then Darren Lee here should 2:14:57.880 --> 2:15:00.600 be number five. Yeah, and then it's the question do 2:15:00.640 --> 2:15:04.240 they get number six? Yeah. Fascinating for me is that 2:15:05.120 --> 2:15:07.480 I think maybe one of the most obvious needs in 2:15:07.520 --> 2:15:09.400 this first round is that the Colts need help on 2:15:09.440 --> 2:15:12.600 the offensive line. Yes, wiped out at tackle. Yeah, and 2:15:12.640 --> 2:15:16.440 they were just kind of not they just they're one 2:15:16.440 --> 2:15:18.520 of those teams that didn't, you know, didn't seem like 2:15:18.520 --> 2:15:21.280 they appear like they wanted to move up. Yeah, and 2:15:21.320 --> 2:15:25.280 get now, like Buddy, Tommy Dimitroff, the general manager, the 2:15:25.280 --> 2:15:29.400 Falcons are on the clock. Linebacker is a need? Is 2:15:29.480 --> 2:15:32.440 you you're talking about Lee? Weren't you there, Dame Burglar? 2:15:32.480 --> 2:15:35.360 But Mile Jack? That's what I'm saying. Will they take 2:15:35.400 --> 2:15:40.200 a chance? Linebacker? Safety, defensive line? Help right there? They 2:15:40.760 --> 2:15:44.960 they passed rush needs is a strong priority. This run 2:15:45.000 --> 2:15:48.440 stopper inside the Babineaux is a thirty five years old. 2:15:48.920 --> 2:15:53.320 So let's see. I mean, you know, linebacker, safety, defensive line. 2:15:53.400 --> 2:15:56.520 When we're talking about how fast, I mean, Miles Jack? 2:15:56.640 --> 2:15:58.520 Could that be the guy you talk about? Buck Eyes? 2:15:58.600 --> 2:16:00.400 Darren Lee has been a popular pick to go to 2:16:00.440 --> 2:16:02.960 the Falcons. They need a linebacker. You follow all those 2:16:03.000 --> 2:16:07.040 mock drafts, Miles Jack is the best linebacker? Right? Do 2:16:07.160 --> 2:16:12.080 you run that risk at seventeen? That hey, we'll deal. 2:16:12.800 --> 2:16:14.840 I don't know, I mean, at what And that's fascinating 2:16:14.840 --> 2:16:16.560 to me, Like, at what point does he become worth 2:16:16.600 --> 2:16:19.560 the risk? Maybe it's here? Yeah, Well let's see, I'm 2:16:19.600 --> 2:16:21.680 looking right now into the Falcons war room. Tommy d 2:16:21.880 --> 2:16:23.720 My buddy is on the phone right now, so he's 2:16:23.760 --> 2:16:27.839 probably talking to his pick about five minutes thirty seconds 2:16:27.960 --> 2:16:30.320 left before they have to hand that in. So h 2:16:30.720 --> 2:16:32.880 we'll see if if in fact that they're they're trying 2:16:32.920 --> 2:16:35.039 to make a deal like David said, or are they 2:16:35.040 --> 2:16:39.160 going to stand in here and pick a linebacker. I 2:16:39.360 --> 2:16:41.480 have an update on the press conference is going to 2:16:41.520 --> 2:16:43.320 be ninety minutes from now, so maybe we're trying to 2:16:43.320 --> 2:16:47.080 get Wow damn, that's okay. Yeah, press conference is if 2:16:47.120 --> 2:16:49.000 a ninety minutes from now, would put it at ten 2:16:49.120 --> 2:16:53.359 thirty Central time, So we'll cover that here on Stars 2:16:53.440 --> 2:16:56.120 dot Com. Sorry English fans. Yeah, hey, by the way, 2:16:56.240 --> 2:16:58.080 thanks for all the English fans. We shot out to 2:16:58.120 --> 2:17:00.480 Dan Turner who joined us at the combine. We got 2:17:00.480 --> 2:17:03.920 people listening Lauren in the UK, Jamie all those. We 2:17:04.000 --> 2:17:09.720 got people listening in Denmark, Larria, Australia, Ireland. Yeah, probably 2:17:09.760 --> 2:17:11.600 every state in the US. If I had to guess, 2:17:11.640 --> 2:17:14.240 thank you folks for saw Mexico. Yeah, yeah, tweet us 2:17:14.240 --> 2:17:17.520 where you're from. If you're listening from Afar, that'd be awesome. Um. 2:17:17.760 --> 2:17:19.920 I've meant to make this point fifteen minutes ago, but 2:17:19.959 --> 2:17:23.400 it's hilarious to me. Carl Joseph and Corey Coleman, at 2:17:23.440 --> 2:17:25.600 one point in time were both popular picks for the 2:17:25.640 --> 2:17:28.560 Cowboys at thirty four, sure off the board at fourteen 2:17:28.560 --> 2:17:31.480 and fifteen. Yeah, well the Falcons. Uh, the Falcons pick 2:17:31.560 --> 2:17:36.800 is in. We've talked about their team needs linebacker, safety, 2:17:37.240 --> 2:17:40.800 defensive line. Any anybody strike your fancy out of those 2:17:40.840 --> 2:17:43.320 three positions. When we talked about the linebackers, we talked 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:46.000 about shuck. Could we see another roost? Can we see 2:17:46.000 --> 2:17:48.400 another safety out of it? Is there? Is there? Von Bell? 2:17:48.600 --> 2:17:51.439 Is there? Somebody on? O'Neill has been talked about as possibility, 2:17:51.560 --> 2:17:53.400 you know, talk about him a little bit though he's 2:17:53.400 --> 2:17:56.520 the play he's been getting a lot of popular praise 2:17:56.600 --> 2:17:59.520 here lately. He's a decleter. He's a guy that plays me. 2:18:00.120 --> 2:18:02.320 He does he wants. He's an angry guy. He does. 2:18:02.560 --> 2:18:04.920 But he also tested really well and so even though 2:18:04.920 --> 2:18:07.120 he's known as a downhill guy, I think he showed 2:18:07.160 --> 2:18:10.480 the athleticism that you want to see from a safety 2:18:10.600 --> 2:18:13.680 to hold up in coverage. And so I think Keyan O'Neill, 2:18:13.760 --> 2:18:17.400 who was invited to Chicago for the draft, uh, not 2:18:17.440 --> 2:18:19.119 a lot of people saw him as a first round pick, 2:18:19.240 --> 2:18:21.120 but the Falcons have done a lot of work on 2:18:21.200 --> 2:18:23.000 Keyan O'Neill, and they were linked to them maybe in 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:25.720 the second round, but if they want Keyan O'Neill, now 2:18:26.400 --> 2:18:28.119 it might be the best chance they have to get him. 2:18:28.160 --> 2:18:30.880 Do you like him better as a cover guy than 2:18:31.000 --> 2:18:33.440 say Joseph? I mean, do you do you get a 2:18:33.480 --> 2:18:34.959 guy that you feel like that you can do a 2:18:34.959 --> 2:18:38.400 little bit more within coverage? Well, you know, I think 2:18:38.920 --> 2:18:40.480 I'm not sure. I think he has the athleticism. I 2:18:40.560 --> 2:18:43.520 ask you a bad question. Well, it's Joseph. The way 2:18:43.560 --> 2:18:46.480 he flies around the field. I mean, I think that athleticism, 2:18:46.520 --> 2:18:48.800 that speed, that closing burst that he has, I'll take 2:18:49.160 --> 2:18:51.440 Karl Joseph in that respect. Sure, I'm not Yeah, But but 2:18:51.120 --> 2:18:55.039 but the coverage part, the part Neil has. I think 2:18:55.240 --> 2:18:57.760 the way he tested and the way the potential that 2:18:57.959 --> 2:19:00.879 he shows, I think has teams really excited. The safety 2:19:00.920 --> 2:19:03.280 position alone, if you don't have a safety you're in 2:19:03.320 --> 2:19:06.440 trouble because at the position, how important it is these days. 2:19:06.640 --> 2:19:09.400 And if you have, if you have that speed, they're 2:19:09.400 --> 2:19:11.240 gonna go and get you. And so I think he 2:19:11.360 --> 2:19:14.280 could be in this first round range. Here in addition 2:19:14.320 --> 2:19:18.320 to everything else, I listed Hungary, Puerto Rico. Thank you, folks. 2:19:18.560 --> 2:19:21.560 I appreciate that it's in the UK, it's in the KIND, 2:19:21.600 --> 2:19:25.480 it's in the US. But Hawaii, Yeah, way the hell out. 2:19:26.200 --> 2:19:29.560 We got a Germany. I'm really appreciate that. All that. 2:19:29.720 --> 2:19:31.520 Thank you so much for being a part of our 2:19:31.760 --> 2:19:34.400 draft coverage here. All right, well Dame spelled it out 2:19:34.440 --> 2:19:37.800 for you. We were thinking linebacker, we're thinking safeties, we're 2:19:37.840 --> 2:19:42.880 thinking defensive lineman here for Atlanta. I I you know, 2:19:42.920 --> 2:19:45.120 that's when you get to this point, we're starting to 2:19:45.200 --> 2:19:48.000 run out of names. I mean, well, it depending on 2:19:48.040 --> 2:19:51.240 how your board is. Remember it's like for maybe eighteen 2:19:51.520 --> 2:19:55.280 first round names, maybe nineteen ye first round names. But 2:19:55.440 --> 2:19:57.440 I'm looking at my board, I've still got some first 2:19:57.520 --> 2:20:01.760 round guys, you know, with Dotson and Tread, Noah's Spence 2:20:02.040 --> 2:20:06.039 Billings read Jack Ragling. I mean, I've still got some 2:20:06.080 --> 2:20:08.920 first round cats that I could deal with right here. Sure, 2:20:09.120 --> 2:20:10.920 and they can go in a couple different directions here, 2:20:10.959 --> 2:20:13.320 because Atlanta does need and they have a few needs 2:20:13.320 --> 2:20:16.040 in a few areas. They need a playmaker on defense though. 2:20:16.080 --> 2:20:18.480 I think that's what it comes down to. Is there 2:20:18.520 --> 2:20:20.640 a guy they seek that could be a playmaker. And 2:20:21.000 --> 2:20:23.080 you know, we've been saying it with Miles Jack you know, 2:20:23.160 --> 2:20:27.240 another boy possibility. But the knees the whole need, that's 2:20:27.240 --> 2:20:30.480 the whole thing. Okay, the commissioners making that walk, and 2:20:30.520 --> 2:20:33.080 we're gonna get Atlanta's pick here that would be picked 2:20:33.160 --> 2:20:35.959 number seventeen. Here in the first verse, seventeen will tend 2:20:36.040 --> 2:20:41.039 back inside the auditorium tamer. With the seventeenth pick in 2:20:41.120 --> 2:20:46.000 the two thou sixteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select 2:20:46.879 --> 2:20:51.320 Keanu Neil. Here we go defensive back, and I think 2:20:51.680 --> 2:20:55.000 for the Falcons, you know again these two, the player 2:20:55.000 --> 2:20:57.280 and the team have been linked in recent days. You 2:20:57.320 --> 2:20:59.959 thought maybe second round, but you know what, the Falcons 2:21:00.080 --> 2:21:02.200 they didn't want to wait. They get their safety, a 2:21:02.240 --> 2:21:05.000 guy that can maybe be that next William Moore for 2:21:05.040 --> 2:21:07.840 this team. Uh come up and hit you. But again, 2:21:07.840 --> 2:21:09.920 he tested really well. Has the athleticis in the hold 2:21:09.959 --> 2:21:12.640 up and coverage as well. So, uh, the Falcons really 2:21:12.640 --> 2:21:14.680 needed a playmaker on defense and I think you know 2:21:14.720 --> 2:21:16.960 they believe they have that guy here. Yeah. And this 2:21:16.959 --> 2:21:19.800 this kid though, is like I said, he plays angry. 2:21:19.840 --> 2:21:21.560 I mean he'll miss a play and then the next 2:21:21.640 --> 2:21:24.120 three plays he is trying to hurt somebody. So and 2:21:24.200 --> 2:21:26.040 his teammates get around him and trying career and he's 2:21:26.080 --> 2:21:30.440 just pushing guys away, like so, uh, Keyan O'Neil will 2:21:30.480 --> 2:21:33.000 go to the Atlanta Falcons here we talked about that. 2:21:33.360 --> 2:21:35.520 I am surprised, you know, to see a Keyan O'Neill 2:21:35.600 --> 2:21:38.000 go ahead of a Darren Lee or you know some 2:21:38.080 --> 2:21:41.400 of these other guys. Um, it's it's really a fascinating 2:21:41.920 --> 2:21:43.600 to see Neil go this high end. But it's it's 2:21:43.640 --> 2:21:46.320 it's preference at a position that's becoming more and more 2:21:46.360 --> 2:21:49.200 important in the NFL and today's NFL. You need to 2:21:49.200 --> 2:21:51.640 be able to have a versatile safety. You know, we 2:21:51.640 --> 2:21:53.800 saw what Byron Jones did last year for the Cowboys. 2:21:54.040 --> 2:21:56.160 You need guys like that that can cover tight ends, 2:21:56.160 --> 2:21:58.160 that can you know, play single high, that can move 2:21:58.200 --> 2:21:59.920 up in the box. And I think the Falcons thing 2:22:00.400 --> 2:22:02.000 Neil is that guy that can do a little bit 2:22:02.040 --> 2:22:04.520 of everything for you at safety. Okay, now it looks 2:22:04.520 --> 2:22:07.440 like the Indianapolis Colts are on the clock. Let's talk 2:22:07.440 --> 2:22:12.320 about team needs center and in guard, inside linebacker, and 2:22:12.440 --> 2:22:17.400 outside linebacker. Potentially as a rusher. We've seen before. I 2:22:17.400 --> 2:22:20.879 think this time last year, didn't the Lions I mean 2:22:21.360 --> 2:22:23.440 it was I'm wrong about this. They took a center. 2:22:23.480 --> 2:22:26.360 I mean, uh, I took Laken Tomlins and the guard. Oh, 2:22:26.360 --> 2:22:29.600 they took guard. So yeah, I mean, is this is 2:22:29.600 --> 2:22:31.520 the first spot I think we could see Ryan Kelly. 2:22:31.560 --> 2:22:34.720 I'm gonna say, yeah, Travis Frederick syndrome. Yeah, how about 2:22:34.760 --> 2:22:36.520 you mean because we're at the end of the run. 2:22:36.640 --> 2:22:40.160 We've talked about the eighteen name run, potentially this could 2:22:40.160 --> 2:22:42.560 be one of those things where we really as a group, 2:22:42.600 --> 2:22:45.240 I think we really really do like Kelly, you know, 2:22:45.480 --> 2:22:47.879 as that guy. If you're gonna if if if their 2:22:47.959 --> 2:22:50.119 need number one need is and you're in the middle 2:22:50.120 --> 2:22:53.000 of that draft and it's center, this this pick makes 2:22:53.040 --> 2:22:54.560 a lot of sense to me. If in fact it 2:22:54.600 --> 2:22:57.600 is Kelly. Cowboys got killed for taking Frederick at thirty one, 2:22:58.120 --> 2:23:00.480 which ironically enough, they were at eighteen or originally in 2:23:00.520 --> 2:23:04.200 that draft. Yeah. But I mean, for all the for 2:23:04.280 --> 2:23:06.240 as much as people want to dog the position, I 2:23:06.280 --> 2:23:10.640 think Travis Frederick has totally proven why like what that's 2:23:10.640 --> 2:23:13.400 worth and why it's something you should consider. I would 2:23:13.600 --> 2:23:15.040 I don't have a problem with that. If the guy 2:23:15.120 --> 2:23:17.120 is what they think he can be. Just taking a 2:23:17.120 --> 2:23:19.120 peek back over the shoulder, a lot of movement in 2:23:19.120 --> 2:23:23.480 the world. Jerry Junior is Jason Garrett next to the board. 2:23:23.480 --> 2:23:25.560 The board they're looking at is the board of the 2:23:25.600 --> 2:23:29.000 actual draft. It's not any board of yeah, of where 2:23:29.000 --> 2:23:32.360 they're those the yeast questions about that. They their their 2:23:32.480 --> 2:23:35.320 board with their prospects is below the camera right you're 2:23:35.360 --> 2:23:37.760 to the Yeah, their person, their board, the two boards, 2:23:37.800 --> 2:23:40.520 the stack and the buy round is to the right 2:23:40.600 --> 2:23:43.720 of the screen where Garrett and Jerry Junior and Steven 2:23:43.800 --> 2:23:46.760 Jones and Jerry when they when they uncover, you probably 2:23:46.800 --> 2:23:49.039 see over on the left a list of Yeah. And 2:23:49.120 --> 2:23:52.360 that's just what has actually happened. There's no secret information. No, 2:23:52.560 --> 2:23:55.280 that's that's the actual draft. That's from what's from pick 2:23:55.360 --> 2:23:57.879 one to pick two fifty three is what they're standing 2:23:57.920 --> 2:24:01.240 in front of right now. So if they're gonna be 2:24:01.240 --> 2:24:04.160 a maybe a tradeback situation we've talked about my buddy 2:24:04.200 --> 2:24:08.720 Mike mcagnet, he's coming up there at twenty would be 2:24:08.840 --> 2:24:11.000 you know, got a lot about that Jets pick. Yeah, 2:24:11.040 --> 2:24:13.200 I talked a lot about that Jets pick. So you know, 2:24:13.800 --> 2:24:17.280 we could maybe that's a spot where they would get 2:24:17.320 --> 2:24:20.480 back in or could they wait like we talked about, 2:24:21.080 --> 2:24:23.640 and wait to the back end of that draft and 2:24:24.240 --> 2:24:26.080 one of those picks like we were talking about as well, 2:24:26.680 --> 2:24:30.160 the run of Seattle, Green Bay, Kansas City, all teams 2:24:30.360 --> 2:24:33.039 that will move. Okay, the pick is in for the Colts. 2:24:33.400 --> 2:24:36.840 Here's the commissioner, absolutely all right, Roger Goodell has the 2:24:36.920 --> 2:24:41.120 Indianapolis Colts here at eighteen. With the eighteenth pick in 2:24:41.160 --> 2:24:47.440 the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Ryan Kelly. 2:24:47.520 --> 2:24:51.240 Here we go center Alabama. If you're the Colts, you 2:24:51.280 --> 2:24:53.840 have to protect Andrew Luck. Yeah, you know he's been 2:24:53.879 --> 2:24:56.160 getting beat up and the tackles are off the board. 2:24:57.040 --> 2:24:59.720 Ryan Kelly makes sense here. Yeah, he's going to be 2:24:59.760 --> 2:25:03.039 able to stabilize the interior of your offensive line. Uh. 2:25:03.360 --> 2:25:06.240 This is just a no nonsense type of player, A smart, 2:25:06.600 --> 2:25:09.640 a very natural center. I don't think he has, you know, 2:25:09.680 --> 2:25:11.720 the versatility to play guard. I think he's just he's 2:25:11.720 --> 2:25:13.800 a He's a smash mouth center. He's going to hitch you. 2:25:14.080 --> 2:25:17.320 He understands balance and leverage. So I really like what 2:25:17.440 --> 2:25:19.640 Ryan Kelly brings to the field. Dave say something nice 2:25:19.640 --> 2:25:22.200 about an Alabama man. I don't want to, but it 2:25:22.280 --> 2:25:26.200 just reminds me of the Zeke pick. And like I 2:25:26.200 --> 2:25:28.960 said a minute ago, the Frederick pick is I just oh, 2:25:29.040 --> 2:25:31.800 that's that's awfully soon to draft a center. You know, 2:25:31.800 --> 2:25:33.640 I don't know about a running back that I mean, 2:25:33.680 --> 2:25:35.640 if he's the guy and he's gonna help your team, 2:25:36.480 --> 2:25:39.360 just take him. Yeah, and I don't care. We've seen 2:25:39.400 --> 2:25:44.039 the important don't care quote J Cutler. Yeah, he's gonna 2:25:44.080 --> 2:25:47.280 keep the pocket clean. Ideally, he's gonna give Luck more time. 2:25:47.280 --> 2:25:49.360 That dude has gotten killed the last two years. He 2:25:49.400 --> 2:25:52.320 didn't finish the year last year. Right, Yes, maybe it's 2:25:52.320 --> 2:25:54.480 not a premium position. Well, I'll tell you what though, 2:25:54.560 --> 2:25:56.480 if you don't have one, good luck with all that. 2:25:56.600 --> 2:25:59.160 Andrew Luck has proven that, given time to work, he 2:25:59.240 --> 2:26:02.240 can drag a pretty sorry team to the AFC title game. Yeah, 2:26:02.280 --> 2:26:03.800 he did it two years ago. I'll see what I 2:26:03.800 --> 2:26:06.280 like about Ryan Kelly. He plays on his feet and 2:26:06.120 --> 2:26:08.879 and you know it, centers. You evaluate centers and their 2:26:08.920 --> 2:26:12.640 ability to snatch positions. And I'm talking about like that 2:26:12.720 --> 2:26:15.640 one technique playing inside shoulder or playing the three on 2:26:15.640 --> 2:26:17.280 the outside shoulder. If you get a center that can 2:26:17.320 --> 2:26:20.840 snatch a three technique on the run, like like Ryan 2:26:20.959 --> 2:26:23.040 Kelly can do you need to draft that guy in 2:26:23.040 --> 2:26:25.039 the Indianapolis Colts got him a guy that can can 2:26:25.120 --> 2:26:26.920 in fact do that. He does a great job of 2:26:26.959 --> 2:26:28.640 playing on his feet. And Dane was talking about the 2:26:28.680 --> 2:26:31.240 balance and things like that as well. Back to that point, 2:26:31.480 --> 2:26:34.440 Andrew Luck is an athletic guy. I like his odds 2:26:34.440 --> 2:26:36.840 of being able to get away from outside rushers who 2:26:36.840 --> 2:26:39.640 are coming around, you know, stepping up. If he and 2:26:39.760 --> 2:26:41.920 if you've got a clean pocket, he can make that work. 2:26:42.000 --> 2:26:44.440 I think it's a great and yeah, maybe eighteen is 2:26:44.440 --> 2:26:45.880 too soon for a center, but if it's going to 2:26:45.959 --> 2:26:47.880 make that much of a difference, who cares. Okay, we're 2:26:47.920 --> 2:26:51.000 at the nineteenth pick. It belongs to the Buffalo Bills. 2:26:51.959 --> 2:26:54.199 They are on the clock, followed by the New York 2:26:54.320 --> 2:26:58.840 Jets and then again the Washington Redskins. So, by the way, 2:26:59.000 --> 2:27:01.560 Dane pour one out for me on my list of 2:27:01.600 --> 2:27:05.080 thirty one, I was just cruising Neil and Kelly both 2:27:05.200 --> 2:27:07.600 I didn't have them. Yeah, are you in that? Are 2:27:07.600 --> 2:27:09.480 you in the pool? I'm not in the pool. I 2:27:09.520 --> 2:27:11.320 just felt like doing it to see how I would do. 2:27:11.560 --> 2:27:13.920 I was fifteen for fifty is your number thirty? First 2:27:13.959 --> 2:27:16.879 player in your pool. I had Vernon Butler as the 2:27:17.000 --> 2:27:19.400 last guy that I put on the list. What about this, 2:27:19.400 --> 2:27:21.480 This isn't it's it's not an order, you know, I 2:27:21.520 --> 2:27:23.640 don't have it picked by pick. But okay, I see, 2:27:23.640 --> 2:27:25.680 but Butler was the last guy that I wrote down 2:27:25.760 --> 2:27:27.920 that I thought would be a first round pick. Okay, 2:27:28.440 --> 2:27:31.240 another one. At this point, I'm starting to wonder if 2:27:31.240 --> 2:27:33.080 Billings will be there. I put him on the list too. 2:27:33.320 --> 2:27:35.840 Pittsburgh's a team that really they sent the army down 2:27:35.840 --> 2:27:38.720 there to work him out. Absolutely. Okay, Well, the Bills 2:27:38.800 --> 2:27:41.880 a three forty five left before they have to hand 2:27:42.040 --> 2:27:45.240 this card in. Uh, it looks like that the clock 2:27:45.320 --> 2:27:48.640 has stopped for them, so that means they pick is in. Uh. 2:27:48.720 --> 2:27:51.880 Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills and where they can go, 2:27:52.480 --> 2:27:54.680 uh you know in there. Uh let me give you 2:27:54.720 --> 2:27:57.199 their team needs and you guys can kind of uh 2:27:57.280 --> 2:28:05.520 pontificate outside linebackers, some rushers, inside linebacker, quarterback, inside defensive line. Uh, 2:28:05.640 --> 2:28:08.000 could you you know, with some time of the Alabama guys, 2:28:08.400 --> 2:28:10.320 you know, interior defensive line, then you know, help with 2:28:10.360 --> 2:28:14.360 a Shan Robinson, Jarren Reid or two possibilities there. We've 2:28:14.400 --> 2:28:18.480 mentioned Darren Lee as a player that is still available 2:28:18.520 --> 2:28:21.720 and that could help a club. Uh, you know, Rex, Ryan, 2:28:22.000 --> 2:28:25.280 he wants to get more guys for his scheme, his defense. Yeah, 2:28:25.360 --> 2:28:28.560 I think the Bill's defense really kind of let a 2:28:28.560 --> 2:28:30.080 lot of people down last year. A lot of people 2:28:30.120 --> 2:28:32.680 are expecting big things. Sure, Rex wants to get his 2:28:32.760 --> 2:28:34.480 guys on that defense, and so he has a chance 2:28:34.480 --> 2:28:36.240 to do that with this pick. Someone that could be 2:28:36.280 --> 2:28:39.959 a playmaker. A couple options that we just mentioned will 2:28:40.000 --> 2:28:43.320 be available, so and this ring it out there, but 2:28:43.360 --> 2:28:45.920 packs the Lynch is still available too. Yeah, what about you? 2:28:46.000 --> 2:28:48.800 Fascinating It's funny and I always think of of Ryan 2:28:48.879 --> 2:28:52.400 and coaches and you know his love affair. Well, he's 2:28:52.440 --> 2:28:54.720 got a son. They have a sound that plays at clip. 2:28:55.280 --> 2:28:59.760 We talked about Jack Lawson and Jack Lawson still I've 2:28:59.840 --> 2:29:03.640 had him between twelve and fifteen. We're now at nineteen. 2:29:04.040 --> 2:29:07.480 You know, we talked about defensive help. Really, I mean, 2:29:07.520 --> 2:29:09.400 for the I've kind of talked about this in the 2:29:09.480 --> 2:29:12.120 last few weeks that I don't think that the NFL 2:29:12.200 --> 2:29:14.120 loves shack Lass as much as maybe we did. I 2:29:14.120 --> 2:29:17.000 thought eighteen would be the earliest he could go, And 2:29:17.240 --> 2:29:19.959 you saw eighteen eighteen Atlanta. I thought would be to me, 2:29:20.080 --> 2:29:22.039 he was a top twelve guy on my board, right, 2:29:22.160 --> 2:29:24.080 But I think just talking to people around the NFL, 2:29:24.120 --> 2:29:25.480 you got the sense that he was not going to 2:29:25.560 --> 2:29:28.200 go that high. Maybe eighteen would be the earliest. And 2:29:28.240 --> 2:29:30.520 here we are at nineteen. You know he would he 2:29:30.520 --> 2:29:33.720 would fit that defense with what Rex wants to do. Well, 2:29:33.760 --> 2:29:36.160 it's uh. I thought he was going to be more 2:29:36.200 --> 2:29:40.320 like a twelve. I thought he And then are the 2:29:40.360 --> 2:29:44.000 defensive tackle rankings. I thought we're somewhere in that twelve 2:29:44.080 --> 2:29:48.920 to fifteen range. Rankins went number twelve to New Orleans, 2:29:48.959 --> 2:29:52.040 a really nice pick on their part. Just to recap 2:29:52.080 --> 2:29:55.920 though the last several picks U Ryan Kelly, Well, let's 2:29:55.959 --> 2:29:58.800 go the commissioner. The commissioners go into the podium. So 2:29:58.879 --> 2:30:03.280 let's see if we can get that potted up right now. 2:30:03.720 --> 2:30:05.200 I don't know if we're going to be in position 2:30:05.240 --> 2:30:06.879 to do that right now, but we'll see. Here's the 2:30:06.879 --> 2:30:10.880 Bills selection and the commissioners talking about it. Is the 2:30:10.920 --> 2:30:17.359 Buffalo Bills select. Very good? Shacked laws about that now 2:30:18.240 --> 2:30:21.200 we talked about we mentioned shack with the Saints, Yeah 2:30:21.240 --> 2:30:23.160 we did. And next, Ryan is the epito. I mean, 2:30:23.200 --> 2:30:24.800 he's a three or four guy. What are they gonna 2:30:24.800 --> 2:30:27.280 do with this guy? I think that he's gonna I 2:30:27.320 --> 2:30:30.040 think that he's gonna play. He's two hundred and seventy pounds, 2:30:30.080 --> 2:30:32.480 Am I right about that? Dane? Probably six, he's like 2:30:32.600 --> 2:30:35.640 sixty three two seventy, you know, May I don't know 2:30:35.680 --> 2:30:38.000 if they he looks like a guy that they might. 2:30:38.320 --> 2:30:41.680 Maybe you see him play a little bit, uh, you know, 2:30:41.800 --> 2:30:44.080 do they try him at the five technique? He actually 2:30:45.320 --> 2:30:47.840 on the ground, yeah, Clemson right, you know, and teams 2:30:47.840 --> 2:30:50.119 did work him out standing up. But I agree that 2:30:50.160 --> 2:30:52.520 he is best with his hand on the in the dirt. 2:30:52.760 --> 2:30:55.080 Give a chance to you know, use that power, use 2:30:55.160 --> 2:30:58.280 those ball instincts. It's just a very natural player at 2:30:58.280 --> 2:31:01.119 the position. So I am eager to see how they 2:31:01.120 --> 2:31:03.440 will use him in that scheme. But you know, if 2:31:03.440 --> 2:31:05.240 you have a chance to get a pass rusher, go 2:31:05.280 --> 2:31:07.920 and get him. And if Rex Ryan is a defensive 2:31:07.920 --> 2:31:10.240 genius that we all think that he's brother Rob's with him. 2:31:10.280 --> 2:31:12.640 Now they're gonna try and figure out how to use him. Yeah, well, 2:31:12.640 --> 2:31:15.960 Shack Lawson is the pick. I thought, maybe you know, 2:31:16.000 --> 2:31:18.360 when I start I start playing connect the dots now 2:31:18.360 --> 2:31:20.560 because I'm running out of names. That maybe, but yeah, 2:31:20.560 --> 2:31:22.640 I mean, your list is getting smaller. And then and then, 2:31:22.640 --> 2:31:24.640 but I was sitting there thinking, Okay, who could Rob 2:31:24.800 --> 2:31:27.240 Ryan or Rex Ryan look at? And he has some 2:31:27.320 --> 2:31:31.240 familiarity with the Clemson program. He understands those guys and 2:31:31.240 --> 2:31:33.920 and Shack Lawson makes a lot of a sense for 2:31:34.240 --> 2:31:36.640 the fact that they have an understanding of what he 2:31:36.800 --> 2:31:40.039 is is as a football player. Nothing against Kevin Dodds teammate, 2:31:40.240 --> 2:31:42.280 but you know, I'm just I'm glad to see I 2:31:42.280 --> 2:31:44.560 haven't gone crazy. So many people were telling me Kevin 2:31:44.560 --> 2:31:47.000 Dodd he's gonna go ahead of Shack Lawson. Shack Lawson 2:31:47.040 --> 2:31:49.280 is clearly the better pass rusher from Clemson any gay. 2:31:49.320 --> 2:31:51.320 Nothing against Kevin Dodd. I'm just glad to see I 2:31:51.320 --> 2:31:53.480 haven't gone crazy, and that Shack Lawson is the first 2:31:53.600 --> 2:31:56.080 Clemson defensive end off the board. Okay, Well, now the 2:31:56.120 --> 2:31:59.360 New York Jets, and I was gonna say, no, I'm 2:31:59.360 --> 2:32:02.080 gonna do my knowing thing where I keep y'all and 2:32:02.200 --> 2:32:05.120 talking about the Cowboys instead of uh, this is a 2:32:05.160 --> 2:32:08.720 big pick for the Cowboys interest in getting a quarterback. Yeah, 2:32:08.800 --> 2:32:11.000 at number twenty. Yeah, I mean this is a prime 2:32:11.160 --> 2:32:13.640 I know, I think people have said, you know, maybe 2:32:13.640 --> 2:32:15.320 they're not interested in doing that in the first round. 2:32:15.320 --> 2:32:17.240 They still have Geno Smith, they still have things to 2:32:17.280 --> 2:32:20.120 work out with Ryan Fitzpatrick. But this has long been 2:32:20.120 --> 2:32:23.080 a candidate to take a quarterback. And honestly, if they don't, 2:32:23.840 --> 2:32:26.440 where's the next one coming? You know, Arizona? Yeah, that 2:32:26.560 --> 2:32:29.200 thing about Let me ask you this though, and let 2:32:29.200 --> 2:32:31.879 me and you know, I totally agree with you on 2:32:31.920 --> 2:32:35.840 the quarterback thing. I wonder I'm just thinking about them 2:32:35.879 --> 2:32:39.000 with the offensive line situation and you know, we're talking 2:32:39.040 --> 2:32:42.760 about Spriggs. You know, could this be the that that Okay, 2:32:42.840 --> 2:32:46.160 the tackle that's and again I don't know, I'm just 2:32:46.200 --> 2:32:48.920 looking at They had the head, they head, the guy retired. 2:32:48.920 --> 2:32:51.600 They traded for Ryan Clay, but Clady has not been 2:32:51.760 --> 2:32:55.560 reliable exactly. I mean that's yeah, exactly. So maybe I 2:32:56.240 --> 2:32:59.199 know that I'm throwing that out there, but I understand 2:32:59.240 --> 2:33:02.160 what you're saying about quarterback too. I totally what we've 2:33:02.200 --> 2:33:04.320 been saying about these tackles. If you don't get them early, 2:33:04.360 --> 2:33:06.360 you're not gonna get them. So, you know, if if 2:33:06.360 --> 2:33:08.240 the Jets have an they're aye on a tackle here. 2:33:08.240 --> 2:33:11.000 I think that's certainly possible. We've seen four come off 2:33:11.000 --> 2:33:13.200 the board already. Yeah, I do think before the end 2:33:13.240 --> 2:33:15.440 of the first round, my guess is we'll see Jermada 2:33:15.520 --> 2:33:18.600 Fetti and Jason Spriggs come off the board just because 2:33:18.600 --> 2:33:21.040 we're gonna see that run on tackle. So I think 2:33:21.040 --> 2:33:24.280 that's certainly a consideration here for the Jets. I'm I'm 2:33:24.280 --> 2:33:28.840 fine with that. I mean again, I'm thinking, how what 2:33:29.200 --> 2:33:31.600 which these teams are candidates. If the Jets don't do 2:33:31.640 --> 2:33:35.039 it for a quarterback or a quarterback, you could talk 2:33:35.040 --> 2:33:38.120 me into Pittsburgh doing it. Big Ben's an old guy 2:33:38.160 --> 2:33:41.480 and a lot of hits exactly. Yeah, Pittsburgh could do it. 2:33:41.560 --> 2:33:44.959 You could talk me into Arizona might be the Arizona 2:33:44.959 --> 2:33:48.640 and Divers probably the last two. If it gets to Arizona, 2:33:48.879 --> 2:33:51.200 that's worth that trade to me, the one that we've 2:33:51.200 --> 2:33:53.640 talked about. I mean, if if if Paxton Lynch is 2:33:53.680 --> 2:33:55.959 on the board when Arizona picks, there's a good old 2:33:55.959 --> 2:33:59.440 mister mcack. Yeah, it's Mike mccagnandah my buddy Mike mccagney 2:33:59.480 --> 2:34:02.359 who I worked with in NFL Europe in nineteen ninety 2:34:02.720 --> 2:34:05.800 outstanding guy, outstanding general manager, he said, A nice job 2:34:05.800 --> 2:34:08.359 and the hardest worker he is. He is a grinder 2:34:08.400 --> 2:34:11.240 and so happy that he's now getting an opportunity to 2:34:11.280 --> 2:34:13.920 run a team. This will be a second year with 2:34:14.440 --> 2:34:18.360 the Jets. So let's see what direction to Jets fans 2:34:18.560 --> 2:34:20.640 have made the trip to Chicago. Looks like no their 2:34:20.680 --> 2:34:23.840 draft party, so that would be there at their headquarters there. 2:34:24.040 --> 2:34:26.520 Shout out to Jets fans. It feels weird not having 2:34:26.520 --> 2:34:28.680 them in the audience. I love the Jets fans are 2:34:28.720 --> 2:34:32.040 in the audience. Guy, I love that. That's that's that's 2:34:32.240 --> 2:34:34.600 that's how I grew up as watching Jets fans boo 2:34:34.640 --> 2:34:36.840 their pick at Radio City. You know, it feels weird 2:34:36.879 --> 2:34:39.600 not to have them. Well, we got it'll be almost 2:34:39.640 --> 2:34:42.320 inside three minutes. Looked like everybody was using the phone 2:34:42.400 --> 2:34:45.600 right there to uh to uh make these to make 2:34:45.600 --> 2:34:50.160 the selections. So uh, we've we've talked about the possibilities 2:34:50.240 --> 2:34:54.400 offensive line, We've talked about quarterback. We talked about it again. 2:34:54.520 --> 2:34:57.120 Mike told me if if Jerry and Stephen Jones wanted 2:34:57.160 --> 2:34:59.480 this pick, you know, come on up. You know it'd 2:34:59.480 --> 2:35:01.200 be happy to to talk to him. I mean, he 2:35:01.280 --> 2:35:04.160 wanted to collect some picks. There was some rumored speculation 2:35:04.240 --> 2:35:05.959 that maybe he was trying to get up in the 2:35:06.000 --> 2:35:08.640 draft to take one of these quarterbacks early. It didn't 2:35:08.640 --> 2:35:11.800 look he materialized. In talking to him as well, he 2:35:11.920 --> 2:35:15.840 said about the run again, the eighteen name run is 2:35:15.879 --> 2:35:19.280 about end of it right here for him. So let's 2:35:19.320 --> 2:35:23.680 see what in fact happens. It looks like that. Well, 2:35:23.720 --> 2:35:25.720 they're moving around, moving camera angles like I thought maybe 2:35:25.720 --> 2:35:27.720 the commissioner was on his way. But I'm looking at 2:35:27.720 --> 2:35:31.560 my best available on my board. Miles Jack number one, 2:35:31.680 --> 2:35:35.560 Laquon Treadwell number two, Darren Lee number three. So three 2:35:35.600 --> 2:35:37.840 players that I guess I'm not shocked that they're not 2:35:37.920 --> 2:35:40.480 off the board. But those are three good players that 2:35:40.640 --> 2:35:43.480 you know, playoff teams. Guy, A team's picking in the twenties, 2:35:43.879 --> 2:35:46.080 have a chance to go get better. Now, Yeah, well 2:35:46.080 --> 2:35:49.720 that's a you got number one Miles Jack and Miles 2:35:49.800 --> 2:35:51.840 Jack makes a little more sense because of the knee issue. 2:35:51.840 --> 2:35:53.320 I get right down there. But I mean, you look, 2:35:53.360 --> 2:35:56.119 I mean, Darren Lee is a guy. How about your boy, 2:35:56.720 --> 2:36:00.640 Noah Spense, Yeah, that would be I He's I've got 2:36:00.680 --> 2:36:03.039 my one and my five available. If you really think 2:36:03.080 --> 2:36:06.520 about that team, a team with like playoff aspirations is 2:36:06.520 --> 2:36:09.400 going to have a shot at Noah Spense, Which that's scary, 2:36:09.400 --> 2:36:12.480 it's fascinating because again another one of these wild cards. 2:36:12.600 --> 2:36:16.000 The three main wild cards to me, Miles jack Bees 2:36:16.000 --> 2:36:18.680 an injury, Noah Spense because of the character, and then 2:36:18.720 --> 2:36:20.879 Paxton Lynch because there are it is such a wide 2:36:20.959 --> 2:36:25.480 range of opinions on Paxton and he's clearly talented, but 2:36:25.640 --> 2:36:28.600 what's his value in the draft. And so it's gonna 2:36:28.720 --> 2:36:32.440 be really interesting over these last twelve picks to see 2:36:32.480 --> 2:36:36.280 where where or if Paxson Lynch goes well. A lot 2:36:36.320 --> 2:36:38.400 of times though they're teams that you know, those playoff 2:36:38.440 --> 2:36:41.080 teams are good. They just sit there and wait and 2:36:41.280 --> 2:36:44.240 patiently have about two to three turkey sandwiches, a couple 2:36:44.240 --> 2:36:46.840 of diet cokes or a diet pepsi in the case 2:36:46.879 --> 2:36:48.879 in this building, and then and then you look at 2:36:48.879 --> 2:36:50.480 the board and you just and all of a sudden, 2:36:50.520 --> 2:36:54.720 you know, but Jaren Reid's still there, Reggie Ragland, William Jackson, 2:36:55.400 --> 2:36:57.800 you know, there's a lot of talented Josh Doson and 2:36:58.080 --> 2:36:59.960 we're about to probably see our run on wide receiver 2:37:00.240 --> 2:37:03.840 here coming up. Uh, you know, with the Texans, the Vikings, 2:37:03.879 --> 2:37:06.680 and the Bengals all candids to take a receiver. Yeah. 2:37:06.800 --> 2:37:10.280 Interesting note from from Adam Schefter, And I mean we've 2:37:10.320 --> 2:37:13.120 heard about this. Shack Lawson will probably need surgery on 2:37:13.120 --> 2:37:16.360 his shoulder, right. Schefter says it'll sideline him four to 2:37:16.440 --> 2:37:19.920 six months, but he can probably wait until after his 2:37:20.000 --> 2:37:22.199 rookie season to have it. And that's been the debate 2:37:22.360 --> 2:37:25.080 because you know, Lawson has put off the surgery, put 2:37:25.120 --> 2:37:27.760 off the surgery, and so that's kind of been If 2:37:27.760 --> 2:37:29.800 he had had it right after the National title game, 2:37:30.000 --> 2:37:32.600 he'd be fine. Yeah, yeah, and he decided not to. 2:37:32.680 --> 2:37:35.080 He decided, well and you wonder what if Clempson doesn't 2:37:35.120 --> 2:37:37.400 go to the national title game, does he maybe decide 2:37:37.400 --> 2:37:39.520 and just pull the trigger? But yeah, you know, because 2:37:39.560 --> 2:37:42.160 he he you know, went straight from the National title 2:37:42.200 --> 2:37:46.000 game to combine prep and so, uh, it really interesting 2:37:46.040 --> 2:37:48.640 dynamic with his shoulder and how that will play out here. 2:37:48.720 --> 2:37:50.440 You know, can't he get through the whole season, you know, 2:37:50.480 --> 2:37:55.200 without without reaggravating and being an issue for him as 2:37:55.200 --> 2:37:57.080 a rookie. All right, Well, it looks like that the 2:37:57.160 --> 2:38:01.600 Jets pick is in. Uh and that would put Washington 2:38:02.320 --> 2:38:05.480 on the clock behind them. We were talking about the 2:38:05.560 --> 2:38:09.600 run potentially for some wide receivers. I know for a 2:38:09.640 --> 2:38:12.320 fact if you talk about Houston Minnesota. I was at 2:38:12.320 --> 2:38:16.560 the TCU Pro Day and Mike Zimmer was there to 2:38:16.720 --> 2:38:20.600 see Josh Dockson Commissioner Goodell making his way to the podium. 2:38:21.000 --> 2:38:22.720 And this will be the pick from the New York 2:38:22.800 --> 2:38:29.760 Jets at number twenty, With the twentieth pick in the 2:38:29.840 --> 2:38:34.160 two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the New York Jets 2:38:34.160 --> 2:38:39.120 select Darren Lee. Yeah, we just talked about him and 2:38:39.160 --> 2:38:40.959 that there's the fifth Buckeye off the board in the 2:38:41.000 --> 2:38:45.840 top twenty. For Darren Lee. You're getting a player who 2:38:45.920 --> 2:38:47.800 three years ago at this time was one hundred ninety 2:38:47.840 --> 2:38:52.000 five pound quarterback in high school, a player that Urban 2:38:52.080 --> 2:38:54.760 Meyer actually had to be convinced to give him an 2:38:54.760 --> 2:38:56.200 offer because they didn't know what to do with him. 2:38:56.760 --> 2:38:58.800 What position would he play, where would he fit? You know? 2:38:58.879 --> 2:39:01.240 He goes to Ohio, played a little safety, played a 2:39:01.240 --> 2:39:04.439 little corner as a red shirt, and then he at linebacker, 2:39:04.480 --> 2:39:07.840 took over for Ryan Shazier last season at that walkout 2:39:07.920 --> 2:39:12.119 linebacker role and really blossomed and down those stretches. Freshman 2:39:12.200 --> 2:39:17.640 season in the in the playoffs against Alabama, against against Oregon, 2:39:17.720 --> 2:39:20.000 he was really a playmaker on that team, that Ohio 2:39:20.000 --> 2:39:22.320 State national title team. And then as a as a 2:39:22.360 --> 2:39:25.280 retro sophomore this past season, he was dynamic as well. 2:39:25.320 --> 2:39:27.200 So you know, he might not be the prototype in 2:39:27.280 --> 2:39:29.840 terms of size for the a linebacker, but he could 2:39:29.840 --> 2:39:31.840 do so many different things in terms of covering, in 2:39:31.920 --> 2:39:35.320 terms of range. He's that new age linebacker, a guy 2:39:35.360 --> 2:39:38.119 that can you be that running hit. Everything you're saying 2:39:38.800 --> 2:39:41.320 makes it very obvious why Todd Bowles wanted this guy. No, 2:39:41.440 --> 2:39:45.760 but you think about what he's I mean, Dion Buchanan, yeah, 2:39:45.879 --> 2:39:48.920 Tyrone Matthew. Right, who's the other guy? I'm not thinking 2:39:48.920 --> 2:39:50.760 of the one that they put the tag on this year. 2:39:50.800 --> 2:39:54.720 I think, um, anybody for the Tony Jefferson is that 2:39:56.040 --> 2:39:58.560 I have that right? The Arizona guy safe he put 2:39:58.600 --> 2:40:01.560 the tag on. Point being is that they put a 2:40:01.600 --> 2:40:04.359 tender on him, is what they did. That's what I'm thinking. Regardless, 2:40:04.879 --> 2:40:06.879 Bowls loves those type of guys. I mean, he's a 2:40:06.920 --> 2:40:11.199 linebacker who can rush the passer. He could probably play 2:40:11.360 --> 2:40:14.240 safety or something that they wanted to do. And that's 2:40:14.240 --> 2:40:16.560 and Top Bowls is so good with those types of guys. 2:40:16.840 --> 2:40:19.440 What the Cardinals have done with my boy the honey 2:40:19.440 --> 2:40:22.400 Badger is amazing. And obviously it's two different positions, clearly, 2:40:22.440 --> 2:40:24.920 but he loves those versatile kind of guys who don't 2:40:24.920 --> 2:40:28.480 really fit a role and not I that that sounds 2:40:28.560 --> 2:40:30.320 very fun to me if I'm in New York ches. Yeah. 2:40:30.320 --> 2:40:33.080 The one thing, Darren Lee is a very confusing player 2:40:33.120 --> 2:40:36.080 to me, and I agree with everything you guys have said. 2:40:36.160 --> 2:40:38.920 You don't like him. I don't see a finisher all 2:40:38.920 --> 2:40:41.160 the time. I worry about him a little bit. I 2:40:41.480 --> 2:40:44.000 see a guy that runs like a son of a gun, 2:40:44.080 --> 2:40:46.400 I get it. I see him running for the back. Yeah, 2:40:46.480 --> 2:40:48.760 I see a guy that's that can do all those things. 2:40:49.280 --> 2:40:51.680 I did see him sometimes though, when the hole miss 2:40:51.720 --> 2:40:53.560 some tackles. I did see him on the blitz, miss 2:40:53.600 --> 2:40:56.080 some guys, getting the quarterbacks on the ground, guys shake loose. 2:40:56.280 --> 2:40:59.360 I've seen him miss tackles in space as well. He 2:40:59.440 --> 2:41:02.119 can run, and I think that the I'm a little 2:41:02.160 --> 2:41:05.480 bit worried about him in the physical side of the game. 2:41:05.800 --> 2:41:07.840 I'm worried when he has to play toad to toad 2:41:07.879 --> 2:41:11.080 with somebody. Can he do that? How well? And you're 2:41:11.160 --> 2:41:13.360 right though, Todd Bolis likes that kind of player. You 2:41:13.360 --> 2:41:15.360 look at what he's done in Arizona. You looked at 2:41:15.400 --> 2:41:17.640 what they've done with the Jets. It's the new age 2:41:17.680 --> 2:41:20.040 of defense in the NFL. Well, you know, but I 2:41:20.240 --> 2:41:24.120 I just like I said, I worry. I worry about him. 2:41:24.160 --> 2:41:27.080 I worry about him a little bit. Okay, is uh 2:41:27.280 --> 2:41:29.920 the the we got the Washington Redskins. We got the 2:41:29.959 --> 2:41:33.520 Washington Redskins are on the clock currently? Let's see who 2:41:33.640 --> 2:41:37.680 is on the Uh that would be Let's see did 2:41:37.720 --> 2:41:40.800 Houston move up? They move up one spot? I yeah, 2:41:40.840 --> 2:41:43.840 I'm having a hard time thinking Houston. Well, Houston might 2:41:43.879 --> 2:41:47.240 be on the clock. Let's just see Houston is picking next. 2:41:47.760 --> 2:41:49.800 Let's see if in fact, who who is on the 2:41:49.879 --> 2:41:52.840 clock with this selection? Like I say, this will be this, 2:41:52.840 --> 2:41:55.200 this will be the timeline. Can help me? Yeah, the 2:41:55.240 --> 2:41:57.560 twenty first. This will be the twenty first pick. This 2:41:57.600 --> 2:42:00.920 would be the Redskins. Let's see where who flips? Oh? 2:42:01.000 --> 2:42:04.040 The Texans are now all right, so they just flopped 2:42:04.080 --> 2:42:07.039 they flop spots here, they just flop spots or so 2:42:07.200 --> 2:42:12.000 so what Okay, so Houston has long been mocked for 2:42:12.040 --> 2:42:14.200 a receiver. I mean, they're one of those teams where 2:42:14.240 --> 2:42:17.160 the pick never changes, it's always a receiver. I don't 2:42:17.280 --> 2:42:20.640 get well, they got spooped. They got spooped about another 2:42:20.680 --> 2:42:23.240 team jumping up to get a receiver. Maybe, so they 2:42:23.240 --> 2:42:26.440 have their eyes on a certain receiver here, whether it's 2:42:26.640 --> 2:42:30.880 it's Will Fuller Laquon Treadwell. I think that they had 2:42:30.920 --> 2:42:32.840 their eye on a certain receiver. They did not want 2:42:32.840 --> 2:42:35.280 to risk it. They probably gave up a fourth or 2:42:35.320 --> 2:42:37.800 fifth round pick to move up one spot and secure them. 2:42:37.840 --> 2:42:40.160 Do you think they were worried about Washington trading with 2:42:40.200 --> 2:42:42.960 somebody else, That's what I'm saying, Well that I have 2:42:43.040 --> 2:42:45.840 to think that because Washington doesn't strike me as a 2:42:45.879 --> 2:42:48.240 team that's going to draft the receiver. No, And well, 2:42:48.800 --> 2:42:51.360 you know, yeah, I think you're right. I miss. I'm 2:42:51.360 --> 2:42:53.640 just kind of thinking about, well, let's let's take a 2:42:53.640 --> 2:42:56.560 look at our handy dandy. Yeah, Dave's got our charts 2:42:56.720 --> 2:43:00.400 working off here, inside linebacker, corner and safety. So, Dave, 2:43:00.440 --> 2:43:04.680 you make a great point there, Washington looking at inside linebacker, 2:43:05.360 --> 2:43:08.920 corner and safe and honestly, you look at Washington's needs 2:43:09.800 --> 2:43:12.119 defensive line. A lot of people talking about them taking 2:43:12.120 --> 2:43:15.480 a guy. I mean, there's there's some dudes they're worth liking, 2:43:15.600 --> 2:43:19.760 both both of the Bama dudes. They're still there. Um, well, Houston, 2:43:19.840 --> 2:43:22.040 we got Houston. We think is a receiver, right, we 2:43:22.040 --> 2:43:25.720 think Houston is Houston's definitely going receiver here. That's been 2:43:25.800 --> 2:43:28.959 the speculation. I mean, you're always you're always bound for 2:43:29.000 --> 2:43:33.320 a surprise. Hey, maybe Houston's thinking they're lucky stars that 2:43:33.400 --> 2:43:35.440 Laquon Treadwell fell all the way to twenty one. Yeah, 2:43:35.560 --> 2:43:37.520 it sounds like to me, Houston says here looking to 2:43:37.560 --> 2:43:40.879 add a legitimate second receiver that can stretch the field 2:43:41.040 --> 2:43:44.240 in that point, the little fuller. Yeah. Um, but again 2:43:44.280 --> 2:43:46.440 I think they are looking for a specific wide receiver here. 2:43:46.800 --> 2:43:48.760 You know, they weren't okay. You know, if if someone 2:43:48.800 --> 2:43:50.920 traded up to twenty one or Washington State at twenty 2:43:50.920 --> 2:43:53.400 one and took you know, a certain receiver, they weren't 2:43:53.400 --> 2:43:57.000 okay with just taking another receiver. They wanted a specific one. 2:43:57.040 --> 2:44:00.240 They only had to give a six round pick next year. Yeah, 2:44:00.280 --> 2:44:02.720 not this year. So we'll talk, okay, talk me through 2:44:02.760 --> 2:44:04.640 then if we if we think it's your receiver taught 2:44:04.680 --> 2:44:08.400 me through in their team needs. We just said, this 2:44:08.440 --> 2:44:11.360 team needs to take the top off a defense. And 2:44:11.360 --> 2:44:12.840 that's what tell me about will full I mean, that's 2:44:12.840 --> 2:44:15.360 a player that secondaries have to worry about anytime he's 2:44:15.400 --> 2:44:18.160 on the field. He has that secondary burst down the 2:44:18.200 --> 2:44:20.680 field that most corners they just don't have an answer 2:44:20.680 --> 2:44:23.520 for that. There's nothing they can do to match that speed, 2:44:23.600 --> 2:44:26.480 that secondary burst. And there are some questions about will 2:44:26.520 --> 2:44:29.280 Fuller and his ball skills and his reliability body catch, 2:44:29.440 --> 2:44:32.920 and oh yeah, he is a quarter in chance. I 2:44:32.920 --> 2:44:35.720 mean he has smaller hands um and that makes some place. 2:44:35.800 --> 2:44:39.360 Though Son makes some place. Notre Dame Houston went and 2:44:39.400 --> 2:44:41.520 they gave a lot of money to brock Osweiler. Right, 2:44:41.560 --> 2:44:44.240 a huge arm. You know, they need to let that 2:44:44.520 --> 2:44:47.160 Ferrari out of the garage. Let him, you know, stretch 2:44:47.200 --> 2:44:50.120 out that arm, throw some deep shots. DeAndre Hopkins is 2:44:50.120 --> 2:44:53.200 a legitimate number one, you know, Canny be a Let 2:44:53.240 --> 2:44:55.039 me ask you this. Do you like Fuller is a two? 2:44:56.240 --> 2:44:58.240 I think he can be. Yeah, I mean I know 2:44:58.280 --> 2:45:00.160 I'm throwing it on you there, but I worry out 2:45:00.160 --> 2:45:02.800 of him as an underneath receiver, right, I don't see 2:45:02.840 --> 2:45:05.800 him running every single route. Again that he will have 2:45:05.840 --> 2:45:09.720 some focus issues, drop some easy throws, but the way 2:45:09.720 --> 2:45:11.720 he can strutch the field, the way defenses have to 2:45:11.760 --> 2:45:14.400 account for him on every single play, he's going to 2:45:14.440 --> 2:45:16.440 open things up for the rest of the offense. So 2:45:16.480 --> 2:45:18.760 I understand the pick. I don't have him as highly 2:45:18.840 --> 2:45:23.760 rated as as I meant Treadwill Dotson, Michael Thomas in 2:45:24.040 --> 2:45:26.080 Those are guys. I mean, I think it's but again 2:45:26.160 --> 2:45:28.480 back to they want speed, a certain type of receiver. Yeah, 2:45:28.600 --> 2:45:30.959 I think you're right about this. Okay, commissioner's making the walk. 2:45:31.080 --> 2:45:37.240 Let's get to him. The Washington Brandskins have traded the 2:45:37.320 --> 2:45:42.480 twenty first pick to the Houston Texans. We're the twenty 2:45:42.520 --> 2:45:45.240 first pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft. 2:45:45.959 --> 2:45:51.520 The Houston Texans select Will Fuller. That makes sense. They 2:45:51.560 --> 2:45:53.720 want a guy, they want speed, They want a guy 2:45:53.840 --> 2:45:56.320 that you know, defenses have to worry about, and that's 2:45:56.360 --> 2:45:58.879 going to help. The happiest person right now might be 2:45:58.920 --> 2:46:02.200 DeAndre Hopkins, hey, because there is someone that defenses have 2:46:02.280 --> 2:46:05.320 to worry about opposite him, and Lamar Miller's pretty pumped 2:46:05.320 --> 2:46:07.640 too well. That offense. You look at that offense, Brock 2:46:07.720 --> 2:46:11.560 Osweiler has stepped into quite an put imposing. We get 2:46:11.600 --> 2:46:13.360 to see these guys in the preseason. How about that. 2:46:13.520 --> 2:46:15.760 Bill O'Brien's gonna be pretty happy with that offense. Is 2:46:15.920 --> 2:46:18.760 is different toys he can play with with with Will 2:46:18.800 --> 2:46:21.840 Fuller and Lamar Miller Brock Osweiler, We'll see how he 2:46:21.879 --> 2:46:24.600 does as a full time starter, but you know he 2:46:24.920 --> 2:46:27.480 will Fuller again the speed what he can do as 2:46:27.520 --> 2:46:29.879 a deep threat. Have some questions about him as an 2:46:29.959 --> 2:46:33.520 underneath receiver, but there is no questioning his ability to 2:46:33.520 --> 2:46:36.080 take the top off a defense. All Right, homies, I'm 2:46:36.120 --> 2:46:38.160 gonna step out for a quick sec and see if 2:46:38.200 --> 2:46:40.440 I can lend my services to our writing staff. All right, 2:46:40.480 --> 2:46:41.840 David with thanks for having it. Well, I'll tell you 2:46:41.840 --> 2:46:43.920 what we'll do to be back. 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We're just fourteen 2:47:15.680 --> 2:47:18.400 ninety nine a year through our free Star magazine app 2:47:18.560 --> 2:47:25.080 called tenty seven seven NFC Boys Today. This is continuing 2:47:25.120 --> 2:47:29.400 coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys 2:47:29.440 --> 2:47:34.360 dot Com. We're back here at the eighty first NFL Draft. 2:47:34.680 --> 2:47:38.320 Dame Brugler, Brian brought us. David Hellman has been with us. 2:47:38.360 --> 2:47:41.039 He's gone out to do some Dallas Cowboys dot Com duty. 2:47:41.120 --> 2:47:44.040 Keke Garrison doing a great job with the executive producing tonight, 2:47:44.560 --> 2:47:46.200 really doing a lot of things on the fly. We 2:47:46.280 --> 2:47:49.200 got to chance to visit with Zeke Elliott, Ezekiel a 2:47:49.240 --> 2:47:52.280 little bit. Gary Brown came in gave us some nice 2:47:52.320 --> 2:47:56.640 little some insight there about the particular players. So if 2:47:56.680 --> 2:47:59.080 we can recap the draft, we'll go back to the 2:47:59.160 --> 2:48:02.520 last five picks or so. Will Fuller goes to the 2:48:02.560 --> 2:48:06.480 Houston Texans, Darren Lee to the New York Jets Shack 2:48:06.600 --> 2:48:10.560 Lawson to the Buffalo Bills at nineteen, Ryan Kelly to 2:48:10.560 --> 2:48:14.600 the Inneapolis Colts at eighteen, and Kean O'Neil, the safety 2:48:14.680 --> 2:48:18.080 from Florida, goes to Atlanta Falcons at seventeen. The Washington 2:48:18.160 --> 2:48:20.760 Redskins are currently on the clock. That says that the 2:48:20.879 --> 2:48:24.959 pick is in. We really haven't talked much about uh 2:48:25.440 --> 2:48:28.760 with the Redskins. Maybe we said get some defense, some 2:48:28.840 --> 2:48:32.160 type of help. Scott McLuhan though, you know, I when 2:48:32.440 --> 2:48:36.039 Scotty's another guy worked with in Green Bay and really 2:48:36.040 --> 2:48:38.240 proud to have won a Super Bowl ring with him 2:48:38.280 --> 2:48:40.600 when he was selected with When he got the job 2:48:40.640 --> 2:48:43.160 with the with the Redskins, you know, in the division, 2:48:43.200 --> 2:48:45.520 I'm thinking, oh man, he's gonna get better players. I 2:48:45.520 --> 2:48:48.080 don't think you're gonna see the days anymore of of 2:48:48.120 --> 2:48:50.800 the crazy picks that they've made. I think that he's 2:48:50.800 --> 2:48:54.120 gonna go out and draft some really good, solid football players. 2:48:54.120 --> 2:48:56.360 So the Redskins are team that the Cowboys are gonna 2:48:56.360 --> 2:48:58.720 have to draft well to match, because I think the 2:48:58.760 --> 2:49:02.480 Redskins are gonna do just the same. So it's probably 2:49:02.520 --> 2:49:04.920 just made a lot of folks very mad and Dallas 2:49:05.160 --> 2:49:08.000 and Colboy Nation. But it's the truth. I believe that 2:49:08.040 --> 2:49:10.039 about Scott mcluin. I think he's really good at what 2:49:10.080 --> 2:49:12.680 he does. No he is. And you know we talked 2:49:12.680 --> 2:49:15.879 about defense offense. You know they could also go in 2:49:15.920 --> 2:49:19.120 that direction. They could use another playmaker. Yeah, they could. Uh, 2:49:19.400 --> 2:49:22.280 you know they need help on certain parts of the 2:49:22.320 --> 2:49:25.320 offensive line. Could we see another receiver? We talked about 2:49:25.320 --> 2:49:27.200 the run of receivers here right, you know, could we 2:49:27.240 --> 2:49:29.959 see another one? Is that? Is that a possibility? Yeah? 2:49:29.959 --> 2:49:33.600 I I you know that's uh. With we're we're towards 2:49:33.640 --> 2:49:37.960 the end of the run with potential first round players. 2:49:38.000 --> 2:49:41.279 I do on my board have guys like Treadwill Dotson, 2:49:42.080 --> 2:49:45.160 Michael Thomas was a guy we've talked about. Spence. Could 2:49:45.360 --> 2:49:49.879 could Scott mcluin. He came from the UH to Seattle, 2:49:50.240 --> 2:49:52.480 you know that whole thing where they they've taken some 2:49:52.560 --> 2:49:54.760 chances on some guys. Could they take a chance on 2:49:54.800 --> 2:49:58.840 a Noah's Spence here? Uh? Would the talent be too 2:49:59.480 --> 2:50:01.640 much for them? The pass? Uh? You know we've got 2:50:01.680 --> 2:50:04.560 the Alabama kids. You know, Reid is still on the board, 2:50:04.640 --> 2:50:08.720 Robinson still on the board, Ragling Jack. You know there's 2:50:08.720 --> 2:50:11.920 all kinds of names that we could, uh that we 2:50:11.959 --> 2:50:16.160 could explore here with the with the Washington Redskins. So 2:50:16.959 --> 2:50:20.720 they have looks like that the pick is in. But 2:50:20.840 --> 2:50:24.200 let's see if they haven't moved to the to the podium. Um, 2:50:24.760 --> 2:50:28.680 are you surprised though that a guy like Treadwell is 2:50:28.680 --> 2:50:31.160 it is? It have to do something. Let's stop there 2:50:31.200 --> 2:50:33.480 that the commissioner's making his way to the podium, and 2:50:33.520 --> 2:50:35.160 we got it for you right here. Let's see if 2:50:35.200 --> 2:50:40.760 one comes off the board right here, with the twenty 2:50:40.760 --> 2:50:45.880 second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Washington 2:50:45.959 --> 2:50:50.160 Redskins select Josh Dockson. There you go as the receiver. 2:50:50.720 --> 2:50:53.959 There's a playmaker, Josh Dockson. I thought, you know, we 2:50:54.040 --> 2:50:57.640 talked about the Redskins getting better with Josh Norman, a 2:50:57.680 --> 2:50:59.840 playmaker on defense, and now they got a playmaker on 2:50:59.840 --> 2:51:02.520 all offense. And you look at what the Redskins already 2:51:02.560 --> 2:51:06.160 have at receiver with Pierre Garsona and DeShawn Jackson. H 2:51:06.760 --> 2:51:09.160 Josh Dawson, you know, brings a little bit of it, 2:51:09.200 --> 2:51:11.879 brings youth to the wide receiver position and brings a 2:51:11.920 --> 2:51:14.720 guy that could uh you know, step up into uh 2:51:14.760 --> 2:51:16.640 you know won't be pressed in action from day one 2:51:16.680 --> 2:51:18.600 in terms of being that number one guy. He can 2:51:18.680 --> 2:51:21.039 kind of, uh you know, work his way through. And 2:51:21.560 --> 2:51:23.560 I like the pick for the Redskins, and you know 2:51:23.640 --> 2:51:27.040 it's uh could uh you know the Cowboys. You know 2:51:27.040 --> 2:51:29.000 who's gonna be covering this guy. Yeah, that's the thing 2:51:29.000 --> 2:51:31.520 about it. He was U, I have Treadwill at one, 2:51:31.640 --> 2:51:34.760 Dotson is two. So yeah, I mean he was very 2:51:34.760 --> 2:51:40.160 impressive to watch play at TCU. Very impressive on the workout. Hey, 2:51:40.240 --> 2:51:42.640 can't while we have a shot here. Uh, you know, 2:51:42.680 --> 2:51:46.560 we we're good. We got the Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Uh, 2:51:46.760 --> 2:51:48.400 do you have some Twitter questions in front of you 2:51:48.480 --> 2:51:50.680 or anything like that? Can't once you once you fire 2:51:50.720 --> 2:51:53.240 some Twitter questions to us and about while maybe we'll 2:51:53.280 --> 2:51:55.440 answer a few of them here while the Minnesota Vikings 2:51:55.440 --> 2:51:57.320 on the clock. So go ahead there. Speaking of Treadwill 2:51:57.400 --> 2:51:59.840 Andrew says, do you think Dallas will go offense again 2:52:00.000 --> 2:52:02.600 if Lakwan Treadwell falls to them? His choice would be 2:52:02.600 --> 2:52:06.320 Noah Spencer, Fayroe Cooper later on, I'm not passing on 2:52:06.400 --> 2:52:08.840 Lakwan Treadwell. Yeah, I mean, if he falls, do you 2:52:08.879 --> 2:52:13.640 think Treadwell has fallen off like speed teams speed speed, Yeah, 2:52:13.680 --> 2:52:16.240 and they're obsessed with the with with speed, and he's 2:52:16.280 --> 2:52:17.960 not going to be a guy that's going to create 2:52:18.000 --> 2:52:19.760 on his own. But again when you watch him on film, 2:52:19.800 --> 2:52:21.520 he doesn't need to because that's not his game. Will 2:52:21.560 --> 2:52:23.920 Fuller is not a better football player than Treadwall. No, 2:52:24.000 --> 2:52:26.480 he's not. He's not. And the fact that Fuller runs 2:52:26.560 --> 2:52:29.039 faster is why he got picked right. And to me, 2:52:29.120 --> 2:52:31.800 the top three receivers are Treadwell, Dockson, and Coleman. And 2:52:32.080 --> 2:52:35.280 you could potentially sell me Coleman and Doxon because they 2:52:35.320 --> 2:52:38.480 are dynamic football players. But yeah, I agree with you 2:52:38.520 --> 2:52:40.880 on Fuller. And so there's there's a playoff team here 2:52:40.879 --> 2:52:43.680 in the twenties, maybe Minnesota right now, he's going to 2:52:43.720 --> 2:52:46.200 get a terrific player with Treadwell. I absolutely believe you're right. 2:52:46.240 --> 2:52:48.040 And and Dodson was a guy, like I said, Mike 2:52:48.120 --> 2:52:51.840 Zimmer worked him out at General manager Rick Spielman was 2:52:51.879 --> 2:52:54.560 there as well, and they worked out Dotson. So they 2:52:54.560 --> 2:52:56.280 probably feel like that they just had a guy go 2:52:56.440 --> 2:52:58.040 right off their board, right in front of him. So 2:52:58.640 --> 2:53:01.640 what else you got there? Kimp? Has Miles Jack gone yet? No, 2:53:01.800 --> 2:53:03.720 he has not. Jason wants to know, as your head 2:53:03.840 --> 2:53:05.600 ready to explode, Joy to figure out a way to 2:53:05.600 --> 2:53:08.360 get back in for Miles Jack. I don't know if 2:53:08.400 --> 2:53:10.840 Miles Jack with the knee. I don't. I just don't 2:53:10.879 --> 2:53:15.200 feel like that, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I just don't 2:53:15.240 --> 2:53:18.040 feel like that they're gonna They're gonna do anything with Josh. 2:53:18.080 --> 2:53:20.160 It's gonna be with with Miles Jack. And I hate 2:53:20.200 --> 2:53:22.440 to say that because I thought that Miles Jack would 2:53:22.480 --> 2:53:25.400 have been taken by now, and I thought that, you 2:53:25.440 --> 2:53:28.440 know that someone and if he could play, he's gonna 2:53:28.480 --> 2:53:30.119 be a damn good player for somebody. But I think 2:53:30.160 --> 2:53:32.840 this whole medical thing is scared off a lot of teams. 2:53:33.120 --> 2:53:35.800 And I just don't see Dallas the fact that they 2:53:35.800 --> 2:53:39.240 took Zeke at at at four. I see them at 2:53:39.280 --> 2:53:42.280 thirty four tomorrows going back to defense unless they jump 2:53:42.320 --> 2:53:44.640 back in. I'm looking at right now Warream Camp. There 2:53:44.680 --> 2:53:47.320 seems to be no activity. Yeah, we've got a press 2:53:47.360 --> 2:53:50.800 conference coming up at the ten thirty Central about, but 2:53:50.879 --> 2:53:52.960 it looks like no discussions going on there. So I 2:53:52.959 --> 2:53:54.600 don't know if they're gonna get back in this thing. 2:53:55.000 --> 2:53:58.400 But uh, yeah, I think with Miles Jack that the 2:53:58.959 --> 2:54:02.080 medical stuff even thirty four is just too much to ask. 2:54:03.280 --> 2:54:05.240 Josh wants to know, is it time to package Leary 2:54:05.280 --> 2:54:07.160 and get back into this round? Is this the time 2:54:07.200 --> 2:54:08.920 you would think that would be done. Well, there's another 2:54:08.920 --> 2:54:12.480 guy that people look at with knee knee concerns coming out, 2:54:12.520 --> 2:54:14.480 and that's one of the reasons why he wasn't drafted. 2:54:14.480 --> 2:54:17.360 It's a trade piece, but yeah, you know, it's I 2:54:17.360 --> 2:54:20.240 don't think he's looked at as as valuable, as valuable 2:54:20.240 --> 2:54:22.039 as maybe a second round pick or anything like that. 2:54:22.080 --> 2:54:26.000 You know, he would certainly sweeten a deal, but I'm 2:54:26.040 --> 2:54:28.640 not sure he's going to be that much of a factors. 2:54:29.480 --> 2:54:31.600 He did sign his tender today. Let's see, you know, 2:54:31.680 --> 2:54:34.039 let's see Kansas City is a team that could use 2:54:34.800 --> 2:54:37.160 could use a guard there at twenty eight. Let's check 2:54:37.160 --> 2:54:40.879 and see what the Green Bay Packers potentially could uh 2:54:41.120 --> 2:54:46.800 their situation. Guard tackle could be a possibility there. They've 2:54:46.840 --> 2:54:50.000 seen him play quite a bit. Let's focus in on 2:54:50.080 --> 2:54:52.440 Seattle a little bit. You know, we're trying to find 2:54:52.480 --> 2:54:56.560 some teams here that could use a guard to let 2:54:56.680 --> 2:54:59.879 you back in the bottom of this round. Uh, Seattle, 2:55:00.440 --> 2:55:02.200 a guard would be you know that's that was a 2:55:02.200 --> 2:55:06.640 weakness in twenty fifteen. So Seattle at twenty six, if 2:55:06.680 --> 2:55:08.840 you can find a way to move it, you've moved it. 2:55:09.360 --> 2:55:13.120 Minnesota's on the clock. We've talked about receivers. Did you 2:55:13.200 --> 2:55:16.800 have Treadwell as your number one guy? And it's excuse me, 2:55:16.879 --> 2:55:19.200 can't because the picks in will go to the commissioner. 2:55:19.440 --> 2:55:22.400 But he's not he's not up yet at he's not 2:55:22.480 --> 2:55:24.440 up at the podium. I'm sorry about that, k't but 2:55:24.560 --> 2:55:26.600 just to talk about and we'll get back to Twitter questions. 2:55:26.640 --> 2:55:29.160 But I'm doing a little producer, but talk about though. 2:55:29.600 --> 2:55:32.360 Was he your best receiver on the on the board. Yeah, 2:55:32.400 --> 2:55:34.640 I think he's the best receiver in this draft. Again, 2:55:34.680 --> 2:55:37.600 he's a four sixth athlete. He's not a speedster. That's 2:55:37.640 --> 2:55:40.560 not his game. But his ball skills, his catch radius, 2:55:40.600 --> 2:55:43.960 his physicality for a twenty year old, you see flashes 2:55:44.000 --> 2:55:46.320 of Dez Bryant with his game. He's not as dynamic. 2:55:46.600 --> 2:55:49.160 He doesn't have that type of athleticism, but he doesn't 2:55:49.160 --> 2:55:51.119 need it because of his ability to snatch the ball 2:55:51.160 --> 2:55:54.080 away from his body and just overpower corners. It won't 2:55:54.080 --> 2:55:56.080 be as easy and you know he plays so well 2:55:56.120 --> 2:55:58.720 in the air, but yeah, exactly, And that's what you know, 2:55:58.760 --> 2:56:02.320 if you can get receivers that that you know, one 2:56:02.320 --> 2:56:04.520 of the most important things that we just overlook at 2:56:04.520 --> 2:56:06.960 the receiver position is catching the ball and that's what 2:56:07.000 --> 2:56:09.000 he does. You know what he did this past year 2:56:09.040 --> 2:56:11.840 in the SEC for all miss to me best receiver 2:56:12.000 --> 2:56:14.039 in this draft. Okay, yeah, I just want to go 2:56:14.080 --> 2:56:15.800 on record with you there, just to make sure, Okay, 2:56:15.840 --> 2:56:18.040 can't what else we got on the some Twitter questions? Yeah, 2:56:18.080 --> 2:56:21.360 we got some questions about pass rushers, wondering if we 2:56:21.440 --> 2:56:23.440 think Spence will make it that far and how far 2:56:23.480 --> 2:56:26.120 do you wait if you want to grab Spence? What 2:56:26.200 --> 2:56:28.959 about it, Dane? What about Spence? I mean, do we 2:56:29.040 --> 2:56:31.360 do we have a feeling that maybe this team might 2:56:31.440 --> 2:56:33.959 be a little gun shy And I'm sorry I used 2:56:33.959 --> 2:56:36.360 a bad phrase there, but a little uh, a little 2:56:36.520 --> 2:56:40.840 a little scared, right, that's about about hesitant about Spence. 2:56:41.000 --> 2:56:43.080 They've done a lot of research on him. I know 2:56:43.200 --> 2:56:46.400 that they went to Ohio State, they they worked with him, 2:56:46.400 --> 2:56:48.880 They talked to Urban Meyer, they talked to those coaches. 2:56:49.400 --> 2:56:52.360 You know, is is Noah Spence a guy that they 2:56:52.400 --> 2:56:55.360 feel like could be that dynamic edge rusher. I mean 2:56:55.400 --> 2:56:59.080 I do maybe they don't, right and well, and they 2:56:59.160 --> 2:57:01.680 just have to be comfortable with him as a person. 2:57:01.800 --> 2:57:05.640 And not every team came away impressed with Spence during 2:57:05.680 --> 2:57:08.320 the interview process, right, you know, I give Spence credit 2:57:08.680 --> 2:57:11.879 going to the FCS level, passing every drug test, you know, 2:57:12.120 --> 2:57:15.480 trying to rebuild his image. But again, you know, he 2:57:15.800 --> 2:57:19.720 came off maybe a little fake at times during these interviews. 2:57:19.760 --> 2:57:22.800 Not every team was wanted to see what, you know, 2:57:23.280 --> 2:57:25.560 what they were hoping to see. So I think it's 2:57:25.560 --> 2:57:27.959 gonna be a team by team basis here. And for Dallas, 2:57:28.280 --> 2:57:30.959 you know, I'm really not sure where they feel comfortable. 2:57:31.440 --> 2:57:33.200 If he's there at thirty four, he might not be 2:57:33.240 --> 2:57:35.440 an option. So this might go back to the Randy 2:57:35.480 --> 2:57:38.040 Moss thing, back to day when you get a very 2:57:38.080 --> 2:57:41.000 talented player, but you're scared off by some things and 2:57:41.160 --> 2:57:43.840 you just don't feel comfortable. But okay, the Vikings have 2:57:44.160 --> 2:57:46.880 turned into pick the commissioner making his way to the podium. 2:57:47.240 --> 2:57:50.200 Eleve of offensive players, a lot of defensive players. Let's 2:57:50.200 --> 2:57:54.640 see how the Vikings breakfast tie of twenty three with 2:57:54.840 --> 2:57:58.800 the twenty third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, 2:58:00.080 --> 2:58:07.440 the Minnesota Vikings select the receiver. Vikings, I think just 2:58:07.480 --> 2:58:11.160 got the best receiver in the draft for Teddy Bridgewater. UM. 2:58:11.520 --> 2:58:15.280 And you know, he fits that offense really well. Stefan Digs, 2:58:15.480 --> 2:58:18.120 a fifth round pick last year, is really blossomed in 2:58:18.200 --> 2:58:21.760 that offense. And look, Teddy Bridgewater is not the most 2:58:21.760 --> 2:58:24.440 consistent deep ball thrower. That's not his game. Yeah, so 2:58:24.480 --> 2:58:26.720 I think Laquon Treadwill is really going to help in 2:58:26.720 --> 2:58:29.760 the short and intermediate game. I love the fit. Um. 2:58:30.200 --> 2:58:32.360 You know, does it sting a little bit for LaQuan 2:58:32.440 --> 2:58:34.600 that he's the fourth receiver taking sure, probably he's a 2:58:34.600 --> 2:58:38.800 competitive guy, but I think this fit long term will 2:58:38.840 --> 2:58:41.080 be the best thing for him. Yeah, we'll hear the Vikings. 2:58:41.080 --> 2:58:43.520 You know, we've already know that. The running back situation, 2:58:44.000 --> 2:58:46.360 you were all over Teddy Bridgewater as far as one 2:58:46.400 --> 2:58:49.240 of the best quarterbacks you felt like coming out. Looks 2:58:49.240 --> 2:58:51.240 like to me, though they made a step. They went 2:58:51.320 --> 2:58:53.520 from a seven and nine team eleven and five on 2:58:53.640 --> 2:58:56.240 the playoffs. They were a missfield goal away from going 2:58:56.320 --> 2:58:59.360 on and being a part of a you know, maybe 2:58:59.400 --> 2:59:01.440 making a run. This thing. That's a good football team. 2:59:01.760 --> 2:59:05.000 This kid he's from uh, you know, Chicago area, and 2:59:05.120 --> 2:59:07.080 so he's used to playing in cold you know, I 2:59:07.120 --> 2:59:09.039 know that makes a difference. Yeah, that makes it. You're 2:59:09.080 --> 2:59:11.080 in the NFC North and you're going to places like 2:59:11.160 --> 2:59:13.560 Chicago and Green Bay. Uh, you know, you have to 2:59:13.600 --> 2:59:17.959 be ready to play in some inclement uh settings. So 2:59:18.000 --> 2:59:21.160 I think he can handle that. Now he's looks like 2:59:21.200 --> 2:59:23.400 he's bringing his child up on the stage. So the 2:59:23.440 --> 2:59:26.560 Commissioner's gonna be very happy about that. Everybody, with all 2:59:26.560 --> 2:59:29.080 our Place sixty programs and stuff like that, to see 2:59:29.120 --> 2:59:30.960 you know, kids involved. I think that's great and in 2:59:31.520 --> 2:59:34.920 a wonderful moment for Treadwell right there to be pack. 2:59:35.040 --> 2:59:36.959 He's going to a very good football team and a 2:59:37.000 --> 2:59:39.400 team that the Cowboys. We'll see now here we go. 2:59:39.440 --> 2:59:41.879 We talk about guys back to back. Cowboys have to 2:59:41.920 --> 2:59:43.400 deal with dots and they're gonna have to deal with 2:59:43.440 --> 2:59:46.120 Treadwell as well, So we'll see. We talked about the 2:59:46.160 --> 2:59:48.560 run of wide receivers coming up, Yeah, we sure did, 2:59:48.560 --> 2:59:50.680 and Cincinnati's gonna be shut out. Yeah, you know, they 2:59:50.720 --> 2:59:52.080 don't even have a chance at one of these top 2:59:52.080 --> 2:59:55.120 four guys unless they like the Ohio State kid Michael Thomas. Sure, 2:59:55.879 --> 2:59:57.560 and that's something the Brown family. We all know what 2:59:57.959 --> 3:00:00.320 Paul Brown, he did work at Ohio States. Keep an 3:00:00.320 --> 3:00:02.320 eye on that. Ken't Garrison what you got for? Yeah? 3:00:02.360 --> 3:00:05.680 Melvin on Twitter? Can the Cowboys afford to pass on 3:00:05.760 --> 3:00:10.240 Paxson Lynch if he's there at thirty four? Four? To sure? 3:00:10.280 --> 3:00:11.720 I mean if they don't like him, if they don't 3:00:11.720 --> 3:00:14.800 believe in him, yeah, then sure you pass. But I 3:00:14.840 --> 3:00:16.760 guess he's asking, is this the last good quarterback in 3:00:16.800 --> 3:00:20.400 this draft? Well? To me, I had him much higher 3:00:20.480 --> 3:00:22.440 and to me, I feel like that you can. You 3:00:22.440 --> 3:00:25.119 could definitely do something with him. You could work with him. 3:00:25.840 --> 3:00:28.080 But you know, the Cowboys might not think. We've talked 3:00:28.080 --> 3:00:31.040 about Connor Cook a bunch, we've talked about they brought 3:00:31.120 --> 3:00:34.480 seven guys in on their thirty visits. They've they've also 3:00:35.280 --> 3:00:39.440 ran Wade Wilson to go work out Brandon Allen. They 3:00:39.520 --> 3:00:45.120 might be more comfortable taking one of those guys instead 3:00:45.160 --> 3:00:47.760 of taking Paxson Lynch. There's some people that believe that 3:00:47.800 --> 3:00:50.480 Paxson Lynch will get out of this this draft. He 3:00:50.520 --> 3:00:53.800 could be there at thirty four, but you know, we'll see. 3:00:53.800 --> 3:00:55.800 We've got Denver at the very end of this draft, 3:00:55.840 --> 3:00:58.760 so right, and I like Paxson Lynch. Again, my biggest 3:00:58.800 --> 3:01:00.600 worry with him is it just it's going to take 3:01:00.640 --> 3:01:03.440 time for him. He's he's so young in quarterback years, 3:01:03.440 --> 3:01:05.760 and I think that's I think that the biggest worry 3:01:05.800 --> 3:01:07.520 with teams right now is how long it's going to 3:01:07.560 --> 3:01:11.119 take him to be NFL ready and really see the field. 3:01:11.200 --> 3:01:13.879 So we could still and we still have what seven 3:01:13.920 --> 3:01:17.320 picks here yea in the first round. He still had 3:01:17.320 --> 3:01:18.959 a chance for him to go in the first round. Well, 3:01:19.000 --> 3:01:21.000 we talked about the needs for the Cincinnai Bengals who 3:01:21.000 --> 3:01:25.000 are currently on the clock wide receiver, cornerback, and defensive end. 3:01:25.520 --> 3:01:28.960 Does anybody strike your fancy there, day Brook. I mean again, 3:01:29.000 --> 3:01:31.760 I brought up Michael Thomas just because of the fact 3:01:31.760 --> 3:01:36.800 that Ohio State Paul Brown the family, he was an 3:01:36.800 --> 3:01:39.920 Ohio State coach. It seems there always a lot of connections. 3:01:39.920 --> 3:01:42.720 Will go back to Dan Wilkerson back in the day, 3:01:43.160 --> 3:01:46.040 was a Cincinna, Ohio state kid that made it was 3:01:46.080 --> 3:01:48.120 a pick, a very high pick for the for the 3:01:48.400 --> 3:01:51.240 Cincinnai Bengals. I think on defense, you look, they have 3:01:51.240 --> 3:01:55.800 a few areas of need with linebackers, possible defensive tackle, 3:01:56.800 --> 3:02:01.280 another possibility the Alabama guys with Ashan and send Jaren Reid. Right, 3:02:02.120 --> 3:02:04.359 you know, Cincinnati has been a team that's taken chances 3:02:05.600 --> 3:02:09.320 with injury guys. Last year with Cedrica boy he they 3:02:09.360 --> 3:02:12.200 took him in the first round. Um, could you know 3:02:12.240 --> 3:02:15.600 Miles jack could he be a possibility? Yeah, they've You know, 3:02:16.040 --> 3:02:17.920 Cincinnati is one of those teams. And you got to 3:02:18.000 --> 3:02:21.600 understand this about the Bengals, They're not afraid to take 3:02:21.640 --> 3:02:23.800 a risk. They're one of the smallest staffs in the 3:02:23.920 --> 3:02:26.720 in the National Football League when it comes to scouting departments. 3:02:27.080 --> 3:02:31.640 Coaches are very heavily involved in what they do on 3:02:31.680 --> 3:02:34.080 the personnel levels. So this is probably going to be 3:02:34.760 --> 3:02:37.560 a coach pick. You know, we have you surprised We 3:02:37.600 --> 3:02:40.480 haven't seen corners go off the board? Are you surprising? 3:02:40.640 --> 3:02:43.840 We've seen hard Graves, we've seen Apple, But there's guys 3:02:43.879 --> 3:02:47.000 like I mean, we've talked about we've talked about Howard, 3:02:47.040 --> 3:02:49.640 we've talked about Alexander, we've talked we haven't talked we 3:02:50.200 --> 3:02:52.640 haven't talked about this guys, William Jackson. Where do you 3:02:52.720 --> 3:02:54.840 have William Jackson? Is this about where you thought maybe 3:02:54.840 --> 3:02:57.480 William jack this is the range right here, Alexander, I 3:02:57.480 --> 3:02:59.560 mean I like Alexander, I like how I mean, I 3:02:59.600 --> 3:03:01.840 like those guys. But it was this where where we 3:03:01.879 --> 3:03:05.000 now it's going to maybe see at twenty four where 3:03:05.000 --> 3:03:07.040 you know, where are some of those top guys. We've 3:03:07.080 --> 3:03:09.800 mentioned the Spences and the Billings and the Reds, but 3:03:10.080 --> 3:03:12.959 we haven't seen that run on corners yet. Could the 3:03:13.000 --> 3:03:16.959 Bengals in fact make a run at a cornerback here? Yeause? 3:03:17.000 --> 3:03:18.959 I mean those are all those are all quality names 3:03:19.120 --> 3:03:21.440 right there. We haven't seen in cornerback being the second 3:03:21.560 --> 3:03:25.240 need we talked about it, wide receiver, corner, defensive end. 3:03:25.280 --> 3:03:28.120 They lost Leon Haul Uh here you go. It's uh 3:03:28.680 --> 3:03:30.240 there the names on the board when you look at 3:03:30.280 --> 3:03:32.720 it of William Jackson or McKenzie. Allen Patrick's on his 3:03:32.840 --> 3:03:35.160 last year of his deal there too, So maybe maybe 3:03:35.160 --> 3:03:37.680 they make this pick that. I think that's a direction 3:03:37.680 --> 3:03:39.640 They definitely could go. Okay, well, who do you like 3:03:39.840 --> 3:03:44.520 at of Jackson, Alexander and maybe you know, maybe Howard, 3:03:44.560 --> 3:03:47.160 but but really of the first two like Alexander, but 3:03:47.200 --> 3:03:50.039 I think Jackson is more well liked by these NFL teams. 3:03:50.040 --> 3:03:52.240 He gets a size, his length. Yeah, and I think 3:03:52.280 --> 3:03:56.800 he's the best corner in this draft at playing with 3:03:56.840 --> 3:03:59.640 the ball to his with his ball behind him, with 3:03:59.840 --> 3:04:01.880 the ability to play with his back to the ball, right. 3:04:02.120 --> 3:04:03.920 You know that speed, He trusts his speed. He has 3:04:03.920 --> 3:04:06.600 the instincts, the awareness, the ball skills. He gets his 3:04:06.600 --> 3:04:09.320 hands on the ball. So I think, you know, William Jackson, 3:04:09.320 --> 3:04:11.240 there had been some questions about, you know, can he 3:04:11.360 --> 3:04:13.960 digest off coverage and yeah, how that's going to play 3:04:13.959 --> 3:04:17.200 best is yeah? That you know, some questions about that. 3:04:17.400 --> 3:04:18.960 Let him get up in the face of wide receivers, 3:04:19.040 --> 3:04:21.160 let him press, let him run, turn and run, and 3:04:21.200 --> 3:04:23.520 he can be a playmaker. Okay, well then that's a 3:04:23.920 --> 3:04:25.879 that's kind of a thought. I mean, he sure he 3:04:26.040 --> 3:04:28.960 you'd like Alexander Jackson could be that kind of gay 3:04:29.040 --> 3:04:31.160 right to me? Jackson is the type of guy, so 3:04:31.480 --> 3:04:33.240 it makes sense, right, all right? Can't what else you 3:04:33.280 --> 3:04:37.720 got anything? Yeah, a lot of questions about Kim Dic Okay, 3:04:37.720 --> 3:04:39.320 I think he's going to be in play at thirty four. 3:04:39.440 --> 3:04:43.400 Possibly there's another guy that you know, he's plays as 3:04:43.440 --> 3:04:47.280 the three technique. You know, the Cowboys. They've invested a 3:04:47.320 --> 3:04:51.400 lot of money. I think that the Cowboys do go defense, 3:04:51.720 --> 3:04:54.640 but maybe this is where it's a defensive end. You know, 3:04:54.680 --> 3:04:58.680 we've talked about Bullard, We've talked about Dodd h Calhoun 3:04:58.879 --> 3:05:01.120 is a guy. We mentioned spins that might be too 3:05:01.160 --> 3:05:04.760 much for somebody to deal with right there. So, uh, 3:05:04.879 --> 3:05:07.080 I don't know, you know, Yeah, we talked again about 3:05:07.080 --> 3:05:10.600 William Jackson, his his his length, the ability to play 3:05:10.640 --> 3:05:13.440 the play with his back to the ball. I think 3:05:13.480 --> 3:05:16.480 with Cincinnati right here to me, I love this fit. 3:05:16.640 --> 3:05:19.760 In the NFC North um has to go up against 3:05:19.879 --> 3:05:22.400 guys like Antonio Brown, Right, you know that Brown's just 3:05:22.480 --> 3:05:25.160 drafted Corey Coleman. Right, Um, you know the Ravens had 3:05:25.160 --> 3:05:27.880 a first round receiver last year with Perryman. So look 3:05:27.920 --> 3:05:29.720 at the Bengal selection here about to be announced at 3:05:29.720 --> 3:05:35.480 the podium. Yeah, and it looks like the commissionaire. In 3:05:35.600 --> 3:05:40.039 the two thousand and sixteen NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals 3:05:40.080 --> 3:05:45.520 select William Jackson. There you go, day, nice shop defensive back, Houston. 3:05:46.080 --> 3:05:49.879 There you go William Jackson again, his ball skills, his 3:05:49.959 --> 3:05:52.520 ability to play the ball. Uh. You know at any 3:05:52.560 --> 3:05:54.600 point in the field, he does a lot of wide 3:05:54.640 --> 3:05:59.440 receiver like things. So I think that's really uh that 3:05:59.720 --> 3:06:02.120 that for William Jackson. It's a natural fit for what 3:06:02.200 --> 3:06:06.320 Cincinnati does. And again at going to a division where 3:06:06.520 --> 3:06:08.680 you have to be able to cover these wide receivers, 3:06:09.080 --> 3:06:11.200 and so I think it does make sense. Okay, this 3:06:11.320 --> 3:06:13.960 means now that the Pittsburgh series, we stay in the 3:06:14.000 --> 3:06:18.600 AFC North, the Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock and 3:06:18.959 --> 3:06:22.760 they have a full, all out allotment of time. Excuse me, h, 3:06:22.920 --> 3:06:25.480 Ken't what else you got on questions? Yeah, we get 3:06:25.520 --> 3:06:27.800 a question what would you target? I mean, looking at 3:06:27.800 --> 3:06:29.800 the depth and the players still there obviously, what would 3:06:29.800 --> 3:06:33.600 you target at thirty four corner or pass rusher? I 3:06:33.640 --> 3:06:35.520 think the best player on the board at one of 3:06:35.560 --> 3:06:38.360 those two spots. Yeah, I think that's that's the cop 3:06:38.360 --> 3:06:40.160 out answer, but that's the truth. I mean, I don't 3:06:40.160 --> 3:06:42.959 think you want to you don't want to predetermine. Okay, 3:06:42.959 --> 3:06:45.000 we're definitely going in this position. You know, we want 3:06:45.000 --> 3:06:49.080 to take the best player available at a position of need. 3:06:49.480 --> 3:06:51.920 So you're looking at corner, you look at defensive end. 3:06:52.080 --> 3:06:55.080 You know, I think, yes, you're leaning towards defense, but 3:06:55.120 --> 3:06:58.120 don't count out other positions. Maybe that'll help you on offense, 3:06:58.160 --> 3:07:01.280 depending on who falls, whether that's a orderback or uh, 3:07:01.480 --> 3:07:05.560 you know, maybe another position. So defense makes sense with 3:07:05.640 --> 3:07:07.800 Kevin Dodd if he's there, I think that makes a 3:07:07.840 --> 3:07:09.360 lot of sense to play. Are you like Bullet? You 3:07:09.400 --> 3:07:12.280 like Bullard better than I had? Bullard's a first round player. 3:07:12.280 --> 3:07:14.400 To me, I think there's a chance he could, you know, 3:07:14.640 --> 3:07:17.560 come off Pittsburgh here. Yeah, okay, Pittsburgh's pick is in. 3:07:18.120 --> 3:07:20.560 They have an idea of exactly the direction they want 3:07:20.600 --> 3:07:23.000 to go. Commissioner is going to be to the podium 3:07:23.040 --> 3:07:25.000 here in jest a minute. Always have a lot of 3:07:25.000 --> 3:07:28.080 respect for the Steelers. I've always had. It's a that's 3:07:28.120 --> 3:07:32.279 an organization that you know, they have consistency at coaching 3:07:32.400 --> 3:07:35.280 and head coaching. The scouts have the same it's the 3:07:35.320 --> 3:07:38.320 same plan, it's the same focus. Uh. You know, those 3:07:38.360 --> 3:07:41.039 teams that had that continuity seem to do a nice 3:07:41.040 --> 3:07:43.800 shots anytime. No, they did, and they had a player 3:07:43.800 --> 3:07:47.320 in mind. We're picking now at twenty five and here 3:07:47.320 --> 3:07:52.840 it is Commissioner Goodell pick. In the two thousand and 3:07:52.879 --> 3:07:59.920 sixteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Hardy Burns, defensive 3:08:00.120 --> 3:08:04.080 back Miami. Interesting. Already, Burns and you have to wonder 3:08:04.120 --> 3:08:07.440 if Pittsburgh was about to take William Jackson before Cincinnati 3:08:07.520 --> 3:08:09.200 swooped in and took him. Well, they knew what they 3:08:09.200 --> 3:08:11.600 wanted to do because they handed the pick in pretty early. 3:08:11.640 --> 3:08:14.160 Though maybe that's a guy that they they had, They 3:08:14.200 --> 3:08:16.160 had a little bit of some thought on there. So 3:08:16.200 --> 3:08:18.199 a little bit to talk a little bit about Already 3:08:18.360 --> 3:08:23.240 Burns from Miami University of Miami. Yeah, Already Burns. You know, 3:08:23.280 --> 3:08:25.440 six foot, one hundred ninety five pounds, a four or 3:08:25.440 --> 3:08:28.520 four athlete. Uh, you know, he had six interceptions last 3:08:28.600 --> 3:08:31.560 year at tied for the acc lead. He's still very 3:08:31.680 --> 3:08:34.800 very raw, and you see that it very unpolished, both 3:08:34.879 --> 3:08:38.199 physically in terms of press and how he uses his hands, 3:08:38.360 --> 3:08:41.800 but also route anticipation. But he's physical. He's gonna get 3:08:41.840 --> 3:08:42.320 in your face.