Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live
Speaker 1: Bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: with David Hellman, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, Cowboys coaches, draft picks,
Speaker 1: and special guests. Now your hosts, Dane Brugler and Brian
Speaker 1: brought us. Well, we finally come to the day. The
Speaker 1: eighty first annual NFL Draft is about to kick off
Speaker 1: in less than fifteen minutes. Good evening, everybody, and welcome.
Speaker 1: We made it. We made it, We made it. Brian
Speaker 1: brought us along with my scouting buddies, Damee Brugler from
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Speaker 1: before you say something, can you tell I was going
Speaker 1: I knew you were itching to do. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: here with you the next three days. We're going to
Speaker 1: carry you from pick one to pick two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty three, so we look forward to having you on
Speaker 1: this journey with us. We're going to talk a lot
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys and what they're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the other teams as well. That's the whole
Speaker 1: idea of what we've ever done with the Draft Show,
Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that we give everybody
Speaker 1: out there the opportunity. Again where Dallas Cowboys dot Com, folks,
Speaker 1: But we understand the importance of the NFL Draft, and
Speaker 1: we appreciate you not only hanging out with us, getting
Speaker 1: our products, just loving the draft. That's what we do,
Speaker 1: and we really do love the draft. I did it
Speaker 1: professionally for thirteen years. I miss a lot of this.
Speaker 1: I miss a lot of it about it. But this
Speaker 1: the Draft Show and doing these reports and stuff. These
Speaker 1: guys treat me like a scout and I appreciate that
Speaker 1: because it keeps me in this game. And I'm really
Speaker 1: excited about what we're about to do and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to be doing it with you guys next three days.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of scorn out there
Speaker 1: for the draft and how much of a thing it
Speaker 1: has become, you know, But I love them, Yeah, us
Speaker 1: three and everybody back home and Kavanaugh and Kevin turn
Speaker 1: all all this enthusiasm and passion. It makes the offseason
Speaker 1: so much more enjoyable. And go so much faster. And
Speaker 1: I mean this is where successful teams are built. Son,
Speaker 1: ignore or scoring the draft at your own risk, That's
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Good teams aren't going to do that. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun. You know how much have we
Speaker 1: been talking about these players, these prospects, and now we
Speaker 1: get to match them up with teams and talk about fit,
Speaker 1: talk about you know, how they will do at the
Speaker 1: next level in terms of just not necessarily speculation anymore,
Speaker 1: but actual you know where these guys are going to
Speaker 1: play at the next level. And I can't wait. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a fun night. I was gonna when
Speaker 1: you when you told me to hold my time my monologue,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Dane, when did you watch your
Speaker 1: first tape of a twenty sixteen prospect? Probably a week
Speaker 1: after the two fifteen draft, So Dane's working on about
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty four days fifty one week. Sure
Speaker 1: you Maybember first. The Monday after the Carolina lost. It's
Speaker 1: well documented that when Tony Romo was laying flat on
Speaker 1: the field there at at and T Stadium, made I
Speaker 1: sent I sent the bat signal up to Kat and
Speaker 1: Jeff and I said, meet me at the facility said boys,
Speaker 1: and you know what, to everybody's credit, everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: they might have been doing their radio jobs or whatever,
Speaker 1: but they looked up and they said, okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: get going here, and we and we have this is
Speaker 1: five months and eleven months and three weeks in the
Speaker 1: banking is basically what I was trying to say. It's
Speaker 1: impressive and it's very exciting that we in what I
Speaker 1: mean probably thirty five forty minutes. Yes, we will very
Speaker 1: likely have a new Dallas Cowboy. Not to mention all
Speaker 1: the other intrigue that's coming our way. I could not
Speaker 1: be more excited. I can't either, and I agree with
Speaker 1: you all very much. Up, Okay, we have an idea, man.
Speaker 1: Let me. I don't know about you guys, but one
Speaker 1: of the great things of the Twitter and all that
Speaker 1: stuff is that you can get information. You can get it.
Speaker 1: You could get a lot of it real fast. The
Speaker 1: problem is you can get information overload, you know, when
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out we have an idea where
Speaker 1: the first two picks are gonna go. We have that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the quarterbacks, whatever order. We think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be golf and Wentz are gonna be one two
Speaker 1: San Diego. Let me applaud Tom Tolesco and those guys
Speaker 1: out there. They've done a nice job of making everybody
Speaker 1: feel like they could take anybody on that board. And
Speaker 1: I think if you hold that pick and you and
Speaker 1: you really and I don't think it's confusion. I think
Speaker 1: there's some people out there thinking they don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing, they don't have an idea, but that you
Speaker 1: know what, if I was in their shoes, I would
Speaker 1: have done the exact same thing. And I would and
Speaker 1: I yeah, and I'm I'm trying, like hell if I'm
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get people interested in my pick. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make you feel like that, hey, I
Speaker 1: could take an offensive tackle. I might not take the
Speaker 1: first offensive tackle. I might take the second offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Then again, I might take a cornerback, a safety I
Speaker 1: might take. You know, I think that is really well
Speaker 1: played on San Diego's part, because, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: as I sit here right now, I want to believe
Speaker 1: that they're gonna take Buckner a defensive end. I really
Speaker 1: do it. Did mock drafts? How confident do you feel
Speaker 1: though you know what I don't. That's my problem. How
Speaker 1: you could, Yeah, I and I and I think that
Speaker 1: the cowboys and talking to some guys, you know, as
Speaker 1: we before we came on the air, they really don't
Speaker 1: know either. And and and it's the job. And when
Speaker 1: I was in the sky department, it was my job
Speaker 1: to know who was going to be picked. That was
Speaker 1: my job. I took that as a sense of pride,
Speaker 1: a badge of honor. And I guarantee I'm talking to
Speaker 1: guys about it, and they're like, we just don't know.
Speaker 1: We just don't know if they're gonna stand in there
Speaker 1: and make a pick, or we're gonna be picking, or
Speaker 1: they're gonna be or someone's gonna come ahead of them,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna make a pick. And to their credit,
Speaker 1: I feel like the subterfuge didn't really kick up until
Speaker 1: these trades happened, that kind of putting them in that
Speaker 1: spot where they're the first pick, where you don't really know, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, how long were we talking about Rams being
Speaker 1: their guy? I mean, and it was one of those
Speaker 1: you felt really good about it up until they were
Speaker 1: put in this position that they kind of control the
Speaker 1: rest of the top ten. Well, we weren't smoke and
Speaker 1: mirrors ever since. Well, we've we've talked about too, and
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Dave Ramsey was a guy that well
Speaker 1: maybe if San Diego doesn't take it, maybe then it
Speaker 1: was like, well Bosa's in there for Dallas and it
Speaker 1: went real strong and then and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: those trades hit and now you're thinking, well, whoa, maybe
Speaker 1: they can get Jalen Ramsey out of this, out of
Speaker 1: this draft. And I think, you know, we talked about
Speaker 1: this with the Cowboys. It's a unique situation because their
Speaker 1: first round draft board is basically two players. We know
Speaker 1: quarterbacks going one two, so they need two players that
Speaker 1: they have identified as their guys. We'll see who goes
Speaker 1: through to San Diego. You know, the Ronnie Stanley train
Speaker 1: has picked up. It's amazing to me. That's how that's
Speaker 1: how this works. That's always crazy reeks of draft week
Speaker 1: bs to me, I just don't believe it. I think
Speaker 1: it's fun though, I mean it's it's it's nerve racking
Speaker 1: because I'm listening to people say, you know, while they're
Speaker 1: gonna take this guy, this guy, and like I said,
Speaker 1: you want to focus in him. Man, they're gonna take
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, when Jerry Jones asked me a question,
Speaker 1: it was like, they're gonna take this is who they're
Speaker 1: gonna take. You know, this is the pick they're gonna
Speaker 1: make because you want to give the best information. And
Speaker 1: I but that Ronnie Stanley thing, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: if with Tunsil, I wonder if it's a situation where
Speaker 1: people are are considering, well, maybe there's some off the
Speaker 1: field stuff there. That things with Kim DJ that we
Speaker 1: heard at the combine when we went all the way
Speaker 1: back there, and like he was with me when I
Speaker 1: was falling out of windows and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: you know, stepfather's suing him right now. It's bizarre. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's more of a culture thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, a better fit just within you know,
Speaker 1: that locker room and that franchise and the culture that
Speaker 1: I think that part weighs heavily, especially when you're picking
Speaker 1: top three. I want to get the person right. And
Speaker 1: so if it is a situation where Stanley is drafted
Speaker 1: ahead of Tounsil, then that has to be it because
Speaker 1: in terms of on field play, there's a huge gap.
Speaker 1: There is a huge gap there and there's and even
Speaker 1: to the point the gap where on my top fifty
Speaker 1: I have Jack Conklin ahead of Stanley and you want
Speaker 1: Stanley play and you're like going, okay, there's some softness
Speaker 1: to their game. There's some attitude to his game that's
Speaker 1: not you know, not like a glass eater kind of
Speaker 1: a guy. Where Jack Conklin I'm seeing like a guy
Speaker 1: a glass eater. I'm seeing a tough walk on. He
Speaker 1: cleaned up nice for this draft. Yeah, all the photos
Speaker 1: I've seen of him, he's like sweaty and grimy, like
Speaker 1: you want to tackle to me. But that's all nice
Speaker 1: on the TV show and I don't even recognize And
Speaker 1: that's you know, if we're going on if we're going
Speaker 1: on that, then yeah, maybe he should be. But but
Speaker 1: I think though, like I said, it's amazing to how
Speaker 1: when you get through this process that we've done and
Speaker 1: evaluating these players and how different and how my love
Speaker 1: for Paxston Lynches for you know, for that and some
Speaker 1: people absolutely hate Paxston Lynch and there's love, there's some
Speaker 1: love for Connor Cook, and I think that we all
Speaker 1: agree about, you know. It's just it's it's amazing how
Speaker 1: this it's come to where these players are gonna be
Speaker 1: selected and how these teams view these guys, because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some times in this from one to two
Speaker 1: fifty three when we're talking and I guarantee you're gonna go, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, or you're gonna go,
Speaker 1: oh man, what a great pick? Oh yeah? And you know,
Speaker 1: and that's where that's the great beauty of the draft.
Speaker 1: We don't really know. Yeah, but san Diego has got me,
Speaker 1: and it's and I want to and I want to
Speaker 1: just sit there and believe, Okay, I got this thing wired.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like like your first instinct is
Speaker 1: the right instinct, right Like when we picked the games
Speaker 1: during the season, you kind of make your pick on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and then you debate with yourself for five more days.
Speaker 1: The first one's probably the right one. And that's how
Speaker 1: I I think it'll be Buckner Ramsey. That's how I'm
Speaker 1: kind of feeling right now with San Diego. Absolutely this
Speaker 1: entire way up until this point. And you know, the
Speaker 1: Stanley stuff last night, so I switched it to Stanley
Speaker 1: in my final mock and and this is and this
Speaker 1: is a mock champion right here, my man, here, would
Speaker 1: you have nine of the you had nine nine nine
Speaker 1: last year, which the best I've ever done. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know this guy. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: pride in what he does. Ronnie Stanley is not gonna
Speaker 1: far this fall this far. But it reminds me of
Speaker 1: Ryan Nasseib, like everybody was convinced he was always coach
Speaker 1: coached him and the Giants are gonna back up Eli
Speaker 1: with Ryan nass He's the third round pick. All the
Speaker 1: things that we talked about tonight, I did not expect
Speaker 1: Stanley to get to get met you of Ryan Nassim, right,
Speaker 1: that is a hell of a parallel to draw. I mean,
Speaker 1: Stanley's is like a top fifteen pick. But sure, if
Speaker 1: he's the third pick, I'll be surprised, like very surprise,
Speaker 1: the first non quarterback that that will be a huge surprise. Okay,
Speaker 1: just now, let's focus a little bit on the Cowboys here.
Speaker 1: With the fourth pick. We tried to figure out what
Speaker 1: San Diego is gonna do. We we talked about a
Speaker 1: lot of guys just not really sure the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: in the last two dragon and then I was hearing
Speaker 1: some whispers that they were going to try, they were
Speaker 1: trying to bail, they were trying to get out. Made
Speaker 1: some calls to a group, made a call to five.
Speaker 1: No calls yet from the Cowboys. Made a call to seven.
Speaker 1: No calls yet from the Cowboys. So usually those are
Speaker 1: things that you're kind of throwing I'm chumming the water,
Speaker 1: trying to see if Dallas in fact is moving the pick.
Speaker 1: Five and seven said no, not moving the pick. They
Speaker 1: haven't heard from the Cowboys yet. Cowboys in the last
Speaker 1: two drafts twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen draft, they stayed
Speaker 1: put and made a pick. Do you feel like once
Speaker 1: again they're gonna stand in there and make a pick
Speaker 1: at four? I kind of do. And we touched on
Speaker 1: this earlier in the week with our two other shows.
Speaker 1: Is it certainly seems like the trade market, at least
Speaker 1: that high up is cooled a little bit with the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks being presumably off the board on top of that,
Speaker 1: and we mentioned it, how far can they trade down
Speaker 1: before they worry about losing on that? And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, this looks like a thin draft at the top,
Speaker 1: at least in terms of first round, top sixteen picks
Speaker 1: and so I think they'd just rather have the guy
Speaker 1: that they feel good about rather than worry about maybe
Speaker 1: you're taking going down a significant step. I mean, even
Speaker 1: if you're trading only back to like eight or nine,
Speaker 1: who are you missing out on, especially which we think
Speaker 1: it is if it's Jalen Ramsey or Ezekiel Elliot. If
Speaker 1: I'm a Cowboys fan, I think I have a smile
Speaker 1: my face right now because I have a good feeling
Speaker 1: that in an hour either Ezekiel Elliott or Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: will be a Cowboy and that makes me feel good.
Speaker 1: So if I'm a Cowboy, I'm entering this draft very
Speaker 1: optimistic about how is it going to play out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and as we as we take a look behind us
Speaker 1: here you can't see you. On our camera angle, we
Speaker 1: have a view into the into the Cowboy war room.
Speaker 1: They've covered with a gym towel. Yeah, I'm surprised we
Speaker 1: don't have some sponsorship on that right there? I figure somebody,
Speaker 1: would you just gave somebody a great idea we need
Speaker 1: we need to get Eagleton. Yeah, we need to get
Speaker 1: some sponsorship on that. Something on that towel. But the
Speaker 1: at but the war room looks looks very quiet from
Speaker 1: what I could see off to the side. Uh, we've
Speaker 1: got to can't tell me. We do have the war
Speaker 1: room cam up for we have the war room cam up.
Speaker 1: I just showed it to him. Okay, so towel So
Speaker 1: once a towel is removable, Yeah, there absolutely So. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody seen that the war room is covered. When we
Speaker 1: get to uh, when we get to the commissioner walking
Speaker 1: up to uh the podium to open the draft, hopefully
Speaker 1: we will get the towel removed and we will see
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Uh, Jason Garrett, Will McClay, and
Speaker 1: all the scouts. As I look right, Jerry Jones is
Speaker 1: in the in the draft room. He is ready to go.
Speaker 1: Um Any any thoughts though about you. You've said this though,
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be one of those two guys,
Speaker 1: so and uh, I can't disagree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I got that. That's my that's on my top fifty,
Speaker 1: that's number two and number three. But you know, in
Speaker 1: flipped order. Uh you know, but we've all along thought
Speaker 1: that Jalen Ramsey has tops on their board. Do you
Speaker 1: think it is possible if both are on the board
Speaker 1: that they will go to the running back. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to believe. Now, I think there's some guys in that room.
Speaker 1: There's some scouts that I've talked to that think that
Speaker 1: that Jerry really does like that running back that now
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about can he make can he convinced?
Speaker 1: Is there enough guys in that room? Jerry is the
Speaker 1: final decision maker. What we've learned from him with the
Speaker 1: Manzelle draft was that even though he liked the player,
Speaker 1: he allowed the board to take presence over what was
Speaker 1: going on. But do you think and you just said,
Speaker 1: this is two and three on your board, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about if the tags are touching and
Speaker 1: then preference and need and all that type of stuff
Speaker 1: comes into play. Yeah, well that's something that you like
Speaker 1: to talk about. Though in the top and that Top ten,
Speaker 1: maybe you're maybe it's not so much about need, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's about who really is the best player. They
Speaker 1: were talking about that on Monday for their press conference.
Speaker 1: You tell me if you think I'm onto something or
Speaker 1: if you think I'm nuts. I really think this decision
Speaker 1: will say a lot about the Jerry and Stephen Jones dynamic.
Speaker 1: I think Steven Jones would rather have Jalen Ramsey. I
Speaker 1: think Jerry Jones would rather have Zeke. That's a really,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a and I think whatever they want,
Speaker 1: assuming both of them are there. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: Ramsey goes off the board quick, then it makes their
Speaker 1: life a whole hell of a lot easier. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: if if if, if Zeke is the pick, I think
Speaker 1: it says a lot that. Yeah, I mean, Jerry thinks
Speaker 1: this is his guy, and he thinks that that they
Speaker 1: can take that next step with him. I think it
Speaker 1: says a lot about the decision making. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think what that you know, that the thing that they've done,
Speaker 1: And I think that Will McClay has done a really
Speaker 1: nice job of this is focusing the group, not allowing
Speaker 1: and some of the things, some of the pitfalls that
Speaker 1: we had in in the early two thousands when I
Speaker 1: was in that room were too many voices, too many outside.
Speaker 1: You know, if you could get to Jerry last, maybe
Speaker 1: you could get your guy you know, on the board,
Speaker 1: getting you know, influence him. I think that Will has
Speaker 1: done a really nice job of pulling this group together.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see what happened with
Speaker 1: Sharif Floyd and that two drafts ago. You know, when
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here's the fifth best player on
Speaker 1: their board, they're not taking him, They're eighteen. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, there's some confusion. It's trade back, you know,
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I think that they really
Speaker 1: are honed in on what this pick is going to
Speaker 1: be and there and waiting on san Diego to make
Speaker 1: the pick ahead of it. From everything that we have heard,
Speaker 1: doesn't it kind of seem like everybody's on the same
Speaker 1: page in the sense that whoever it is, be it
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, be it Ezegil Elliott, it seems like everybody's
Speaker 1: on board with it being one of those two guys.
Speaker 1: It's not like this. I don't get the vibe that
Speaker 1: this is a divided organization. I think, you know, they
Speaker 1: got to choose somebody, and either option seems pretty appealing
Speaker 1: to that. Well, the one thing the Cowboys have been
Speaker 1: able to do in these last several drafts has been
Speaker 1: able to hit on first round players. Yep. And you know,
Speaker 1: with the exception of what we've seen with mclaiborne. You know,
Speaker 1: as far as what they gave and what they thought,
Speaker 1: you know, they've done a nice job of getting talent.
Speaker 1: Now it's about getting that talent. But as we go
Speaker 1: through this draft, also adding that second round or if
Speaker 1: they go back up in the draft, but the second round,
Speaker 1: third round, fourth, n they got a bunch of early
Speaker 1: picks here to make that happen. And that's the key,
Speaker 1: as they picked very early in each round and that's
Speaker 1: very valuable, especially on Day two, day three. So it's
Speaker 1: going to take a lot for them to use those
Speaker 1: pick it package up. So if we do see a trade,
Speaker 1: they must really love the player to give up those picks,
Speaker 1: right right, I'm and to I mean, to your point,
Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth round picks, I'm fascinated if they
Speaker 1: do pick Zeke And for the millionth time, I'm a
Speaker 1: big Zeke fan, I'm fine with that. It's not a
Speaker 1: position of need and so that leaves you way more
Speaker 1: work to do. I mean, if you take care of
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, you got a great player at a spot
Speaker 1: where you need a starter. Okay, and uh we're starting off, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're getting ready to can't just let me
Speaker 1: cue me up though. Are we gonna hear the commissioner
Speaker 1: open the draft? Is that something we're gonna go to
Speaker 1: when he when he goes to the uh to the podium.
Speaker 1: Here we'll see about that kid's working on something right now.
Speaker 1: But uh, we're getting close to uh, the the eighty
Speaker 1: first NFL Draft being opened by Commissionery Goodell. Uh, we've
Speaker 1: we've thought all along that the quarterbacks are going to
Speaker 1: be the guys. It's actually something a point I'm meant
Speaker 1: to make. I mean, you look, it looks like the
Speaker 1: warm room is kind of filling up now you can
Speaker 1: kind of see behind the towel, but it I mean,
Speaker 1: both of these picks appear to have been made, the
Speaker 1: Rams and the Eagles, and right Goff followed by Wentz.
Speaker 1: I think most people expect that to happen. How long
Speaker 1: do you expect these guys to hang on these picks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the Rams are gonna turn their
Speaker 1: cards in thirty seconds, and I mean they're gonna weld
Speaker 1: this thing down. We're gonna have some drama. We're gonna
Speaker 1: let TV talk about their uh, their the picks and
Speaker 1: who you know. I think the Rams, the Rams have
Speaker 1: known all along since they made this trade, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing about it. So we'll be here
Speaker 1: we go though. We're gonna get uh. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: the commissioner I believe is uh at the podium and
Speaker 1: so KNT can we pull that up? Okay? So in
Speaker 1: our headphones there we heard the commissioner to say we
Speaker 1: can hear it. There we go, Here we go, Yay.
Speaker 1: There it is draft. It is draft time. Against all odds,
Speaker 1: there we go. So the the the draft aft is
Speaker 1: officially opened. I've got to be careful here. We got
Speaker 1: this little bit of delay on the from TV to
Speaker 1: what we're doing. But we'll try and we'll try and
Speaker 1: stay together. Here. We've got about eight different types of
Speaker 1: feeds going everything, and I going on to think any
Speaker 1: of them are SYNCD up. So yeah, it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Jared Golf pick for the Rams. Excited about that. He's
Speaker 1: one of your top quarterbacks. He is the top quarterback
Speaker 1: in his draft and you kind of talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about him. In fact, if if he is the
Speaker 1: pick for the Rams, well I think he makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense for the Rams. Obviously they gave up
Speaker 1: a lot to go up to that number one selection
Speaker 1: get their quarterback. It's what they needed. They're missing that quarterback,
Speaker 1: and so in order to stay relevant in order to
Speaker 1: get to that next level as a franchise, especially moving
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, they needed that fresh face. And I
Speaker 1: think Jared Goff can be that guy. And now is
Speaker 1: he He's not prototypical in several areas. Doesn't have that
Speaker 1: power arm, good enough arm, not a power arm, a
Speaker 1: little leaner than you want, two hundred and fifteen pounds
Speaker 1: for a six or four frame. But he's a player
Speaker 1: that from a mental standpoint, Hey, he understands his natural
Speaker 1: feel for the game. You understand situations. You know, you
Speaker 1: watch him the way he can throw receivers, opening that
Speaker 1: passing anticipation, you know. La. We'll see if they use
Speaker 1: all eight minutes here left to pick, but I do
Speaker 1: think it will be Jared Goff, and I love the fit.
Speaker 1: And he's in a situation where case keenum he can
Speaker 1: start if he needs to, right, Jared Goff doesn't have
Speaker 1: to start from day one, but I do think he
Speaker 1: has the talent to start very early in his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I want to just echo some of the thoughts
Speaker 1: about about Jared Goff. He was this my second favorite
Speaker 1: quarterback on the board, had him the tags touching right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, history will say whether I'm right or wrong
Speaker 1: about him, but never been a fan of the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah you me, Yeah, not to the point. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I said some positive things about him, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I but I have him his number, I
Speaker 1: have Lynch his number seven. Shoot me straight right here.
Speaker 1: If you were the GM, if you were less sneed,
Speaker 1: would you be drafting Paxston Lynch right now? I probably
Speaker 1: would have number one. Yeah, okay, I probably would just wondering. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's but you know, that's that's just my sure.
Speaker 1: If they if they need, if they need it, if
Speaker 1: they you know, with the quarterback needs and all that,
Speaker 1: I think there's some you know, Dane was even talking
Speaker 1: about not having play. Okay, we have war room cam
Speaker 1: up and it looks like that everybody is in position
Speaker 1: right now. That would be if you on your screen
Speaker 1: as you look at it. Chris Hall is sitting at
Speaker 1: the long haired yeah, far far right, at the very bottom,
Speaker 1: next to Will McClay. Uh, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones standing
Speaker 1: up right now to take some pictures with some Texas
Speaker 1: State Lottery lottery folks. So yeah, how cool is that?
Speaker 1: If you win that thing, you get to go in
Speaker 1: there and they they're all nice to you, and you
Speaker 1: get to see the war room and that's funny. All
Speaker 1: the scouts are sitting there looking at each other like, okay,
Speaker 1: are we going to draft any time soon? Here? So
Speaker 1: if I if I walked in there, they would pelt
Speaker 1: garbage at man. Yeah, but these guys get to take
Speaker 1: photos with Jerry and as we and as we uh,
Speaker 1: as we focus around, like I said, will McClay next
Speaker 1: to it, will be next to Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: has middle chair Charlotte Jones Anderson to his right with
Speaker 1: between him and Jason Garrett. That's interesting. Now here we go.
Speaker 1: The guy that just sat down next to Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: is Gary Brown, who coaches running backs for the Dallas Cowboys. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is very interesting. To be able to run the football,
Speaker 1: so we'll be able to Let's let's like that's something
Speaker 1: very interesting right now as you look at war room camp,
Speaker 1: Gary Brown, he is Jason Garrett just pounded him on
Speaker 1: the chest. So this is that is fascinating. Yeah, right there,
Speaker 1: you just caught a very interesting glimpse that it looks like.
Speaker 1: And if if, if I'm going to read this right,
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, um could very well be your pick here.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be dramatic. I mean, who nahell
Speaker 1: knows what they're gonna do, But typically the position coach
Speaker 1: of the guy they're gonna draft comes in chats before
Speaker 1: they make the pick. Yeah, is what typically happened. They
Speaker 1: just they just tip their hand. Pretty pretty interesting. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and say that definitely means their
Speaker 1: drafting Zeke. But if you're a Zeke guy, that's you
Speaker 1: have to feel good that we have anything to see
Speaker 1: we haven't seen. We haven't seen Greg Jackson or Joe
Speaker 1: Baker in the room yet, so that that might be uh,
Speaker 1: it might be very interesting, uh bit of So for
Speaker 1: all you Zeke Elliott fans, uh, this could be. This
Speaker 1: could be very much the pick. The Rams are still
Speaker 1: on the clock. They have five minutes and ten seconds
Speaker 1: to go, uh and then they will have to make
Speaker 1: their pick. We all think it's gonna be Jared Golf,
Speaker 1: the quarterback from Cal but just fascinate right off the bat,
Speaker 1: we wore room Cam just gave you a bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a glimpse of what's going on something else,
Speaker 1: And I hate speculating, but there's a video going around
Speaker 1: now on Twitter. Oh I was, I was unsure if
Speaker 1: we needed to bring that up. I was, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that is, that is uncharted territory. Brian, have you
Speaker 1: have you seen this? No? I have not. I have not,
Speaker 1: So there is a go ahead. There's a video, a
Speaker 1: thirty second video of Laramie Tounsil. It certainly appears to
Speaker 1: be Laramie Tounsl. It does look like him and smoking
Speaker 1: a bong attached to a gas mask and very ironic timing.
Speaker 1: His account put it out and then quickly deleted it.
Speaker 1: And now it's all over Twitter. Oh no, and when
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 1: But his stepfather's suing him right now. That's bizarre, and
Speaker 1: I wonder, well, there's some teams that have had some
Speaker 1: concerning are we about to see a big slip from
Speaker 1: this guy? Honestly, though, the two old miss players, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, Kim Dja and Tounsil. If that's
Speaker 1: in fact the k so this video could be two
Speaker 1: years old. I mean, you never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: It's just it's very ironic the timing here. Yes, And honestly,
Speaker 1: I will say, if these teams did their research worth
Speaker 1: a lick, then that video should not surprise them, right. Um.
Speaker 1: Robert Candici brought up the fact that Tunsel was at
Speaker 1: his party at the combine, Right, So this this shouldn't
Speaker 1: be news to you. But it is very interesting that
Speaker 1: this video popped up on the internet as people are,
Speaker 1: you know, taking their seats in the auditorium, as this
Speaker 1: whole thing's about to get underway. Certainly makes you kind
Speaker 1: of wonder, doesn't maybe San Diego isn't interested in maybe
Speaker 1: they do San Diego all along. I mean, we've kind
Speaker 1: of thought they're gonna take an office to tackle the
Speaker 1: whole thing with Stanley, you know, do you know? And
Speaker 1: that's the and that's really the disadvantage that we we
Speaker 1: do have evaluating these players is you look at the tape,
Speaker 1: you make, you put your grade up on the tape,
Speaker 1: and then all these all these you know, things happen
Speaker 1: and you never know to be fair to the people
Speaker 1: who know things. Um, what I've heard about Stanley is
Speaker 1: what makes him appealing is that he's like a Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: boy scout type of guy. So maybe he's not as
Speaker 1: good as Tounsel, but he's not gonna get you in
Speaker 1: any headlines that you don't want to be a part
Speaker 1: of either. Okay, the Rams still on the clock too,
Speaker 1: forty five Jeff Fish or feel free to hand that
Speaker 1: card and you get ten minutes in the first round. Right.
Speaker 1: They've known who this was going to be for two weeks.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious to me that it takes them eight minutes
Speaker 1: to come to this conclusion. Well, the Rams, this is
Speaker 1: the worst kept secret in the NFL. But the Rams
Speaker 1: have been doing the NFL a favor by not tipping
Speaker 1: who they're taking, by saying, oh, we only like both guys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some more research on both. But they
Speaker 1: know who they're taking. They're they're keeping intrigue for ratings.
Speaker 1: Yeah now, and then they're doing a nice job of
Speaker 1: it too. I'm just fascinated though, by you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever now my own experience that we
Speaker 1: talk about things that come up. The day of the
Speaker 1: draft was part of a draft with Warren Sapp and
Speaker 1: the drug rumors. The day of the draft and Ron Wolf,
Speaker 1: the general manager of the Packers at time. I'll never
Speaker 1: forget him picking up the phone minutes before the draft
Speaker 1: is about to roll and he hits the button to
Speaker 1: the league office and just starts just going off on, Hey,
Speaker 1: how can you put this information out now? How can
Speaker 1: you do this? How can you do that? So unfortunate
Speaker 1: though for tounsl if in fact this really really is
Speaker 1: the case for him. So it looks like Jeff Fisher's
Speaker 1: on the phone with the quarterback that they will be drafting. Well,
Speaker 1: let's see if he, in fact is is talking to anybody.
Speaker 1: They'll probably pay into a picture and we'll see if
Speaker 1: Golf four wins is on the phone. But we all
Speaker 1: believe though, this will pick will be Jared Golf, the
Speaker 1: quarterback from cal uh and uh and like you said,
Speaker 1: Dane Fates of the franchise, Yeah, California, Los Angeles, keep
Speaker 1: him in California. A player who you know, will he
Speaker 1: ever be on the Andrew Luck level in terms of
Speaker 1: star quarterbacks, Probably not, but he can be, you know,
Speaker 1: better than a Matt Ryan or that type of player.
Speaker 1: A guy that can help you compete for the playoffs
Speaker 1: if he can in division, if he can be better
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan, that's all. You gotta take him at
Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, I mean Matt Ryan, and we all
Speaker 1: believe that he is going to be the pick. We
Speaker 1: I mean we this is all. And when when that
Speaker 1: looks like the pick is in, So we'll try and
Speaker 1: see when the commissioner makes his way to the podium.
Speaker 1: We're on a little bit of a delay here ourselves,
Speaker 1: so we'll try and make sure that we bring that
Speaker 1: to you. But Ken Garrison already doing a great job
Speaker 1: of getting us lined up, set up and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So here we go. I don't think we were okay,
Speaker 1: we thought we were product. Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: mister Goodell does not appear to be at the put.
Speaker 1: We'll get we'll get it. We'll get this one. Get it,
Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get it. We're gonna be here for
Speaker 1: twenty Yeah. Like I say, it's it's difficult when you're
Speaker 1: trying to get everything kind of lined up here and
Speaker 1: all and all done the right way. But it's like
Speaker 1: you said, Jared golf quarterback from cal should be this pick.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's uh it's nice to uh it's
Speaker 1: nice to, like I say, to be here and have
Speaker 1: this uh have this draft going on, let's talk about
Speaker 1: him with in comparison to say, the guys last year,
Speaker 1: you know Dane somebody. Well, here here we go. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the commissioner. They're showing it. Let's see if he won. Fact,
Speaker 1: then here comes Commissioner Goodell with the pick. Got a
Speaker 1: new entrance. Oh, hamm it up, Roger, I like it.
Speaker 1: With the first pick in the two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Jared Goff Boom, California.
Speaker 1: And there it is, Jared Goff. You said, the worst
Speaker 1: kept secret in the surprise it has surprised ever And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a good pick. It's what the Rams
Speaker 1: traded up for. It's the first time since nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: five that cal has had the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. That was Steve Barkowski Atlanta Falcons. Uh.
Speaker 1: Another another note, that was Lee Steinberg's first client. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's yeah, that's the first That's the client that
Speaker 1: launched Lee Steinberg to his career as a sports age
Speaker 1: Jerry McGuire exactly. Alex Smith has had a pretty good career,
Speaker 1: but it should have been Aaron Rodgers. Well, what's so
Speaker 1: funny about that is that funny Mike McCartney, who's now
Speaker 1: the coach at Green Bay is was on the staff
Speaker 1: at the forty nine Ers when they picked Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: So I mean asking that question he kind oft as
Speaker 1: they had on one two his digs in about that
Speaker 1: from time to time. And this is for the Rams.
Speaker 1: This is the just the second time they drafted a
Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round, uh, hitting their franchise, So
Speaker 1: first time with Sam Bradford. Uh And so hopefully it
Speaker 1: works out a little better this time around for the Rams.
Speaker 1: But you know he's going to an offense that you
Speaker 1: look at the receivers, average set of receivers with guys
Speaker 1: like Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, Kenny Britt. But it's what's
Speaker 1: in that backfield that you know, gives me a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement for Jared Goff handing off to Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty five times a game. To have that
Speaker 1: crutch as a young player, Uh, that that's outstanding. So
Speaker 1: you look at the Rams back to back years in
Speaker 1: the first round, two top ten picks to get Girley
Speaker 1: and Golf, that's a pretty good two year haul. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the and the and the rams. I can say,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's never It's it's funny when you
Speaker 1: watch them on tape. Defensively though, you know that that
Speaker 1: front seven, I mean they're gonna have to do some
Speaker 1: retoul and though on the linebackers Lara and Yeah, but
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald we've talked about. Yeah, we've talked about those guys,
Speaker 1: A bunch and draft big Guy. Big Guy and I
Speaker 1: had a debate here yesterday evening. Dan, I think you
Speaker 1: were gone by that point. Uh. If if this is
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, golf goes where in relation to Jamis and Mariota,
Speaker 1: he's the third quarterback off the board. I think he's
Speaker 1: strongly about that. Brian's over here trying to tell me
Speaker 1: that golf goes before Mariota, and I just don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I you know what though, I I like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, you you think that I had this negative
Speaker 1: I think that people had more questions about Mariota than
Speaker 1: they did golf. It means don't think the downfield throws. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's fairy. Mariota brings a little more upside though,
Speaker 1: or you know a little more the physical skill set.
Speaker 1: What he brings from a mental standpoint is that because
Speaker 1: of a move around quarterback guy, I think you have
Speaker 1: some question marks. Yeah, the fact that Tennessee was not
Speaker 1: moving that pick, you know, like no one was willing
Speaker 1: there could trade up to that number two pick. Cleveland tried, right,
Speaker 1: you know, different teams trying to get the number two.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's revisionist history, but as real as as soon
Speaker 1: as a couple of weeks before last year's draft, I
Speaker 1: remember there were analysts that were trying to convince people
Speaker 1: that Mariota could be the number one pick, and nobody
Speaker 1: really ever bought it. But there was no shortage of
Speaker 1: people trying to sell that that Mariota was, you know,
Speaker 1: was better than Jamis basically. And I never got the
Speaker 1: sense that anybody was overly convinced on golf. I think
Speaker 1: golf would have been the third behind those guys, no question. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think you look through some of the teams,
Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland with two first round picks, maybe they
Speaker 1: move open to the top ten to get a golf
Speaker 1: this year. I know the Browns Golf was their number
Speaker 1: one quarterback. They have a chance to draft him. But now, okay,
Speaker 1: we got four minutes left, four and a half minutes
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Yeah, another one where we're not expecting
Speaker 1: a surprise here another one. Well, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that to me, it's got to be another quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't do everything that you did to
Speaker 1: get up. I actually somebody on Twitter said something to
Speaker 1: me within the last five minutes. I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't shake the feeling that they're gonna get Zeke even
Speaker 1: after the trade. You don't do that to get at
Speaker 1: anybody but a quarterback. In my opinion, Well, if you
Speaker 1: haul that they gave up. Yeah, if you think about though,
Speaker 1: the Eagles team needs quarterback surely. You know they've bought
Speaker 1: time with Bradford and now you have a new coach
Speaker 1: in there. You went out, you spent some money, you
Speaker 1: know on stone Chase Daniel, you gave, you gave, you know,
Speaker 1: you gave Bradford some more money though, But sounds like
Speaker 1: to me, if you could get through this year, you
Speaker 1: can move on from that contract. I'm gonna say. I mean,
Speaker 1: and both of those deals are designed that they can
Speaker 1: get rid of them after this season and it won't
Speaker 1: hurt them too much. I mean, I know people are
Speaker 1: talking about trading or cutting Bradford this year. That doesn't
Speaker 1: seem likely. It doesn't sound like they're particularly interested in
Speaker 1: doing it. But you can move on from him next
Speaker 1: year without it being a big deal. And I think
Speaker 1: the consensus on wins is that they don't. Nobody would
Speaker 1: want him to start this year anyway. I think people
Speaker 1: would prefer for him to season. And I kind of
Speaker 1: learned behind a guy a little bit. You want him
Speaker 1: to red shirt and you know, let the game come
Speaker 1: to him because again I've said this before, I don't
Speaker 1: care how much of a quarterback guru or expert that
Speaker 1: you are, there's just no accounting for that jump and talent,
Speaker 1: jumping competition, jumping speed going from the FCS level to
Speaker 1: the NFL level. So for Wentz it's going to take
Speaker 1: a learning adjustment. How long will it take for him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe he can see the field at some
Speaker 1: point as a rookie. Maybe it will be in year two.
Speaker 1: But they do have a situation with Bradford and Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel where he doesn't have to go in from day one.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, how willing of a
Speaker 1: mentor is Sam Bradford going to be if he's trying
Speaker 1: to get the hell out of him. Who knows will
Speaker 1: he be there? You know, there's a lot of doubt
Speaker 1: with that situation right now. But you know he called
Speaker 1: him a baby. Yeah he is a baby. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't run from competition. You signed a two year
Speaker 1: deal and you signed a five year deal here right,
Speaker 1: You signed a two year deal. I mean, the best
Speaker 1: thing that he could do for his career, go out,
Speaker 1: be awesome this year and then you know, okay, once
Speaker 1: is the future. But then go sign somewhere else for
Speaker 1: even more big money. Um, you know, I understand that
Speaker 1: he doesn't want, you know, he wants a more sure situation.
Speaker 1: But again, you signed a two year deal. It's not
Speaker 1: like you were really in the long term plans anyway.
Speaker 1: So homeboy has made eighty million dollars out of being
Speaker 1: a pretty average quarterback. He was one of those last
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to get that big money. He was the last one,
Speaker 1: I think, or was it that the guarantee the big
Speaker 1: million dollar Contram was the next guy right and eleven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a I mean you're talking like a thirty million
Speaker 1: dollar drop in your guarantees. It mean Sam Bradford and Camp. Okay,
Speaker 1: to pick is in for the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the podium, commissioner making his way. Here we go.
Speaker 1: The way this set is set up looks like a
Speaker 1: wrestling event like Goodell's coming down the ramp. Second pick
Speaker 1: in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagle
Speaker 1: select Carson and wins quarterback Dakota Stay and now it
Speaker 1: gets interesting. And if you look at Carson Wentz's suit design,
Speaker 1: he had his handkerchief in his pocket is green and
Speaker 1: his sighs yellow. Right buys a nation there, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. Congratulations, are going North Dakota is probably a
Speaker 1: fun place to be. Right now. Let me ask you this, though,
Speaker 1: are you if you're the Eagles, do you feel I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this pick? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about it? Really? I mean you You've given a
Speaker 1: lot for Carson Wentz, You've you know next year's ones
Speaker 1: now off the book. I absolutely hate it for them.
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't matter to me, but I'd never
Speaker 1: been that big of a fan of the guy. I know,
Speaker 1: Mayok and some other people compare him to Andrew luck Um.
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of giving up that much
Speaker 1: stuff for a guy that we just said needs time
Speaker 1: to become a better quarterback. If you're doing that, I
Speaker 1: would hope it's the Andrew Luck type of guy. Like
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, and what's they did give up a lot? Wow,
Speaker 1: you're really investing in your future here. You just you
Speaker 1: hope it works out for the player. And you know,
Speaker 1: with the Eagles situation, they have some talent on that roster.
Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, they gave up picks and
Speaker 1: it's going to hamstring them for the future. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you'd like to have those picks, but they do
Speaker 1: have talent to build around a quarterback like Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it will be interesting to see how it
Speaker 1: works out. But he is I mean, when you think
Speaker 1: about the situation he's going to with the quarterbacks already
Speaker 1: in the roster again, like I talked about, it's a
Speaker 1: good situation for him. He doesn't have to worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, being press in the action too early. If
Speaker 1: he's not ready, you know, they can bring him along
Speaker 1: at his own pace. And that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks need. A lot of times, when you're a
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback, you're pressing the action from day one,
Speaker 1: but not Carson Wentz. There would to shock any of
Speaker 1: us if we did not see him play at all
Speaker 1: this year, And to me, it would not shocking. And
Speaker 1: we thought that maybe with the bortles Chad Henny struggled,
Speaker 1: so in Jacksonville they put him on the field early.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me if Carson Wentz has a
Speaker 1: hard time getting into uniform this year, You're a factor.
Speaker 1: And that's that. Chase Daniels looking at the war room
Speaker 1: right now. For the Cowboys, they look very relaxed. San
Speaker 1: Diego in fact, is on the clock. Uh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: They're gonna have about six minutes if my calculations are correct.
Speaker 1: Just for the sake of being dramatic, I have not
Speaker 1: seen Joe Baker, and I have not seen Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: pop onto this. Yeah, not Hugh Jackson. He's the coach
Speaker 1: of the he's the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Jackson,
Speaker 1: thank you. It'd be good. Greig Jackson. Yeah, but everybody
Speaker 1: looks like smiles all around. Stephen Jones on the phone,
Speaker 1: Chris Hall, as you see on the lower right hand
Speaker 1: your screen is on the phone. He usually is dealing
Speaker 1: with the player. Uh and uh, so we'll see Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones has his cell phone to his ear Chris Hall.
Speaker 1: He's talking to actually he's talking to Robert Blackwell in Chicago.
Speaker 1: That Robert Blackwell will hand in the trade card for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. If you're falling along with us on the screen,
Speaker 1: if you could see that, uh, he will, he will
Speaker 1: tell Robert when they're ready to go. And so here
Speaker 1: the uh you know they're there. Everybody looks very happy,
Speaker 1: they look very comfortable. Does not look like an anxious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this doesn't look like a team that is sweating this
Speaker 1: pick for San Diego. So let's see by again my calculation.
Speaker 1: Right there, it's five minutes left for the Chargers. Chargers
Speaker 1: still might be fielding some calls. The needs for the
Speaker 1: Chargers we've talked about, uh, defensive end, safety corner, a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end guard. I mean they can go
Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. As we uh, as we
Speaker 1: take a peek in the Chargers room there, they looked
Speaker 1: like they were high five in each other. So they
Speaker 1: probably have their card going in. Everybody's very anxious about
Speaker 1: this to see what direction. But it looks like guys
Speaker 1: just looking at body language in the war room. They've
Speaker 1: got their guy. They clearly got their guy. And I
Speaker 1: hate to I mean, we're gonna see, but I mean,
Speaker 1: based on everything we're seeing, points toward that Columbus dude,
Speaker 1: ye go giving them a heads up on the phone
Speaker 1: or something. Do you do you agree with that? Brian? Well,
Speaker 1: as far as Zeke, everything we've seen so far leads
Speaker 1: me to bed. Yeah, I've I've been in that war
Speaker 1: room six years with his crew. You bring that coach
Speaker 1: in there and kind of talk to him a little
Speaker 1: bit about what's going on. And Garrett, you know, gave him.
Speaker 1: They gave him the bump to the chest. And so
Speaker 1: you know, everybody they look very very calm. They do
Speaker 1: not look like that they're worried about San Diego. San
Speaker 1: Diego could now if San Diego were to move this
Speaker 1: pick and all of a sudden, you know, if they've
Speaker 1: in fact a deal was struck in front of them,
Speaker 1: then you have to be careful. So it looks like
Speaker 1: that the chargers still have three minutes and thirty five seconds.
Speaker 1: So it looks like now that clock just went away,
Speaker 1: so it might be the pick is in uh, and
Speaker 1: then we're going to get an announcement on, in fact,
Speaker 1: what the Chargers do. Anybody want to take a guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, we opened this show with the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: you know what could happen at three? And I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with your gut and DeForrest Buckner, Okay, And
Speaker 1: that'll make it interesting because then we'll really see how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys feel about these two guys we've linked them too.
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of late rumors about Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa to the Chargers, now, I mean there, we talked
Speaker 1: about it at the start. San Diego has done an
Speaker 1: outstanding job of keeping what they really want close to
Speaker 1: the vest, not giving it away. You know, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of names linked to San Diego and so
Speaker 1: you know we're about to find out who that name is.
Speaker 1: But you know, they've done a great job of being coy.
Speaker 1: Has Joey Bosa been a guy that's maybe could slide
Speaker 1: or is that you just mentioned his name? I mean,
Speaker 1: joe we talked about him. Maybe we talked about him
Speaker 1: at four heavy grand scheme of things though. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you look at Bosa and you know, I think
Speaker 1: he could fit a lot of these spots here in
Speaker 1: the top ten, Jacksonville at five. You know, you look
Speaker 1: at Baltimore at six, you look at Tampa at nine.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joey Bosa is not gonna have to wait
Speaker 1: very long, especially if he could be this pick right now.
Speaker 1: You know the Chargers have wanted that pass rusher. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can rule him out. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers we talked about this UH needs for them, UH
Speaker 1: defensive end. We've linked Buttner to them quite a bit,
Speaker 1: the cornerback safety combination. Ramsey could very well be that guy.
Speaker 1: Uh you know that does the team like the two?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know? This is a team that have
Speaker 1: has just thrown a lot of chum in the water,
Speaker 1: and they can go a lot of different ways. I
Speaker 1: like what you're saying about Bosa. I like what we've
Speaker 1: talked about with UH, with Buttner, you know Ramsey, I
Speaker 1: mean it, it's this is it? And now though this
Speaker 1: offensive tackle situation what we're hearing, you know that that
Speaker 1: might not play if it is Joey Bosa. You know,
Speaker 1: taking taking bets at the at the beginning of the day,
Speaker 1: who would have thought that the top non quarterback would
Speaker 1: be Joey Bosa I mean, I I think he's worth it.
Speaker 1: To me, he's one of the top I have a
Speaker 1: number four on my board. To me, Joey Bosa is
Speaker 1: one of the best players in this draft. I think
Speaker 1: it's a home run pick if it is, if that
Speaker 1: is the direction they go. But it is interesting because
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people expected Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: to go number three to the charters. Yeah, they they've
Speaker 1: They've done a nice job of of of hanging hanging
Speaker 1: onto that pick and making a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that they've They've got other things in mind. So if
Speaker 1: he's not the pick here, well, here's the pick picks
Speaker 1: coming in, So let's go to yeah selection. With the
Speaker 1: third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers select Joey Bosa. There you go, here
Speaker 1: we go. Nice job, Dan Burglar. Hey, we talked about
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa and we've debated him for months of how
Speaker 1: he would fit with this team, and it turns out
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't even have a chance at him. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he goes one pick ahead, and he's gotta be proud
Speaker 1: about that. You fought me on Joey Bosa. Congratulations well,
Speaker 1: we'll find out in time if he actually was worth
Speaker 1: the number three pick in the top non quarterback drafted.
Speaker 1: But you know, we gain kudos to the Chargers that
Speaker 1: kind of plan this, after all the gnashing of teeth
Speaker 1: about Bosa not being good enough for four. How ironic
Speaker 1: is it that the Cowboys couldn't have him if they
Speaker 1: wanted him? Right? That's hysterical. I mean, I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: thinking if he's not the pick here, no way does
Speaker 1: he fall past you know, eight to ten. I think
Speaker 1: that the Giants would love him. I think there's a
Speaker 1: mean uh yeah, I think Tampa Bay would love him.
Speaker 1: I didn't see him falling that far. Now that makes
Speaker 1: me wonder I'd said a minute ago that I thought
Speaker 1: Buckner would be the pick. You see, you mean maybe
Speaker 1: he's the third guy. Where does he go? Now that's fascinating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that jackson I will I will guarantee which
Speaker 1: Jacksonville gets on the clock. They they've hoped, they were
Speaker 1: hopeful that Buckner would be there. I could almost guarantee. Okay,
Speaker 1: the uh the that means with the Chargers announced selection
Speaker 1: there at three, the Cowboys are on the clock, that
Speaker 1: might and both of the two guys that we have
Speaker 1: linked them to for the last week or two. All Right,
Speaker 1: it is the situation. They're both on the on the
Speaker 1: board here, Yeah, which struction do they go? Do they
Speaker 1: go with the defensive stud who it might be more
Speaker 1: of a need, not only right now but long term.
Speaker 1: Or do they go with the offensive playmaker, a guy
Speaker 1: who probably helps you win more games now might not
Speaker 1: be your biggest need, but some players are just special
Speaker 1: and you don't pass on them. And so that could
Speaker 1: be the running back. So this is we could see
Speaker 1: back to back buck eyes here. Yeah, and we very
Speaker 1: well could, and you'll see a lot of Buckeyes. This
Speaker 1: does not look this doesn't look to me like a
Speaker 1: group of people that's sweating it. No, they're they're they're
Speaker 1: but they're looking at It's funny though, Jerry's looking at
Speaker 1: down on his on his notes, and maybe they're thinking
Speaker 1: about moving. I mean, I don't know how they would.
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody entertain him. He looks like he's doing a
Speaker 1: little math in front of him, and Jason Garrett looks
Speaker 1: like that he wants to make this pick. So again,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're watching a war room camp, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're not, they're not really. The only guy that's
Speaker 1: on the phone currently is uh is Chris Hall. And
Speaker 1: then he is on the phone with Robert Blackwell once
Speaker 1: again in Chicago. He's just waiting for Jerry Jones to
Speaker 1: point to him. Chris looks, Chris looks a little stressed
Speaker 1: of everybody in there. Yeah, well they're they're all, they're
Speaker 1: all and by my okay, So we got four minutes
Speaker 1: and twenty five seconds? Am I crazy? Or does it
Speaker 1: feel like like the teams get ten minutes and it
Speaker 1: does not feel It feels like they get about five
Speaker 1: because they're talking and the adrenaline's up. But yes, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: It is boasts that we talked about ideal for four
Speaker 1: to three. Now he's going to a scheme that's primarily
Speaker 1: a three to four. So it would be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how the Chargers use him, if they use him
Speaker 1: standing up, if they you know, try to go to
Speaker 1: a more four man front with his hand on the ground. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, do they move them around up and down
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, How they use Joey Bose will
Speaker 1: be really interesting. In San Diego, well, the Cowboys still
Speaker 1: have not handed in the card Chris Hall patiently waiting
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones to tell him to go with it.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have three minutes forty five seconds. Is uh.
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of discussion there. I mean
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones waiting for the phone ring here there. Maybe
Speaker 1: somebody called Stephen Jones on his private number there and
Speaker 1: and and now is talked up to him about maybe
Speaker 1: going back in this draft. Uh, let's see that. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody wants to come up and get Ramsey. I
Speaker 1: would the guy that every seems to be wanting to
Speaker 1: trade up for, would would be uh, would be Zeke.
Speaker 1: I've heard more Zeke trades than I don't think somebody
Speaker 1: would come up for Ramsey. Maybe not Tonsil. Now I
Speaker 1: think we saw Yeah, I think I think it's I
Speaker 1: think that they're just patiently waiting to see what the
Speaker 1: directions goes. This is again we're starting they're starting to
Speaker 1: look a little more stressed than they were. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: say that they're patiently waiting. Maybe where are they waiting for?
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody offered him something that they're definitely thinking about.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the whole uh, you know, the way
Speaker 1: that their stack is set and all that uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just instant though. If the pick is Zeke though, just
Speaker 1: a dynamic football player, absolutely, I mean that's I think
Speaker 1: I think Twitter will break, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I just just so much's fun watching his
Speaker 1: tape explosive. He just makes everybody around him better. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Veneran players have said this on the draft, they'll
Speaker 1: fall in love with him because of how tough he really.
Speaker 1: You want to see, uh brought us be very quiet
Speaker 1: for a second. What are Zeke's weaknesses? Oh? I you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's criticized one time. That's why I
Speaker 1: think if you watch, if you watch the Michigan State film,
Speaker 1: that should have handed him the damn ball every play.
Speaker 1: It's what they should have done. You know, all right,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys inside of it's right at almost at the
Speaker 1: two minute mark, they're holding this thing. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry shaking his head like he does not want to
Speaker 1: go down in this thing. Garrett's kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's just go and uh so the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: hold this thing. Chris Hall patiently waiting and brunch time here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so here we go. Two minutes. We'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what this. Yeah, I've said this a million times,
Speaker 1: but if you're operating under the assumption that you're trying
Speaker 1: to win before Tony Romo retires, which the lack of
Speaker 1: addressing the quarterback in a big way certainly seems to
Speaker 1: indicate that Jerry thinks he's gonna play for five more years.
Speaker 1: I just think Zeke's the guy, Dave, you talked about
Speaker 1: this though. You said this. Now, if this is Zeke pick,
Speaker 1: it's Jerry Jones in the war room. I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Steven doesn't think like that, and he
Speaker 1: hasn't and that's why DeMarco Murray's not here. He he's
Speaker 1: a head coach too. I agree with that. I think
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett saw what a great running back did for
Speaker 1: his team two years ago, and I think Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: probably knows that Zeke has the potential to be better
Speaker 1: than DeMarco Murray. All Right, we're getting close to the
Speaker 1: one minute mark here for the Cowboys. They're they've tooken
Speaker 1: They excuse me, they've taken this all the way down
Speaker 1: to the end. Will McClay just picked up the phone
Speaker 1: in the war room. Maybe somebody called him to try
Speaker 1: and throw one last trade at him. And uh, but
Speaker 1: it looks like to me that they're gonna sixty seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's sixty seconds in Chris Hall is talking with Robert Blackwell,
Speaker 1: who's at the table in Chicago. So they're just waiting
Speaker 1: and now, okay, Jerry Jones now is taking over the phone.
Speaker 1: So that means they probably got the player online and
Speaker 1: let's see them. In fact, everybody's clapping in the war
Speaker 1: and so let's see there's a pick. This is it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a pick, and will be very interested to see. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're taking it down to the last thirty seconds and
Speaker 1: then we will know exactly who that guy is. And uh,
Speaker 1: everybody looking. You know, I think that you know, uh
Speaker 1: with Elliott, like I say, you get you know, you
Speaker 1: get h you know so much of an this explosive player.
Speaker 1: You know you think about him. You think about also
Speaker 1: though with Ramsey, what he can still do, what he
Speaker 1: can do. Uh, you know it's just gonna be. Here's
Speaker 1: the team with the running back. Is he helps everyone
Speaker 1: and you mentioned this, he helps the quarterback. He helps
Speaker 1: obviously the run game. What he brings as a receiver,
Speaker 1: that balance that he brings to the entire offense and
Speaker 1: then of course the defense. I think that balance that
Speaker 1: he brings to this offense. Uh, he's a true three
Speaker 1: down player and it's it's hard to pass on special
Speaker 1: and I think that's what Ezekiel Elliott brings to the field.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really see running backs go top
Speaker 1: five very often unless you're a very good player. And
Speaker 1: I think Ezekie Elliott definitely qualifies. And that's why he's
Speaker 1: in consideration with this pick. You know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: though the running back. You know, we've we've had many
Speaker 1: a draft show arguments about the running back in the position.
Speaker 1: You know, is it the is it the fact that
Speaker 1: that Zeke is just so much more of a talented
Speaker 1: player than the other players? Do what was the grades
Speaker 1: that much better than the other players that they were
Speaker 1: they were looking at. I think, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you got your answer if they pick him, yeah, I
Speaker 1: obviously And and like I said, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: not the greatest position of need on this team. Uh.
Speaker 1: Scott Scott Lenahan in here, Yeah, And if the offensive
Speaker 1: Courtt is a telling indicator, And here's the pick. The
Speaker 1: commissioner is gonna come walk down this narrow hallway. He's
Speaker 1: not close to being the biggest need on this team,
Speaker 1: which tells you everything you need to know about how
Speaker 1: they feel about his talent. Yeah, here we go. Here's
Speaker 1: the commissioner pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Boom. There it is, Ezekie
Speaker 1: Elliot is now a Dallas co Well, mom is excited.
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys Nations excited too, because that's that's a
Speaker 1: dynamic playmaker right there. That I mean it. I honestly
Speaker 1: don't think I ever actually thought that they would do it,
Speaker 1: but they just would. I think the first draft show
Speaker 1: we did. I think we kind of quieted that from
Speaker 1: the start because it didn't seem like that would be
Speaker 1: the direction that this team would go. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: already on the roster, you have Alfred Morris, you have
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden, you have Lance Dunbar. To use a number
Speaker 1: four pick to go get a running back seemed unlikely.
Speaker 1: But here we are. That's a direction they go. And
Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'm applauding it. I think, who
Speaker 1: I think Ezekiel Elliott helps you win more games this
Speaker 1: year and moving forward than anyone else on the board.
Speaker 1: And so for that reason alone, I love this pick.
Speaker 1: I'm very confident Jalen Ramsey's going to be a great player.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be a great player this
Speaker 1: year or even in twenty seventeen. I think Zeke Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm giving him too much credit. I think Zeke has
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl potential from the any steps on the field.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be a candidate to be offensive rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. I mean, if you've been listening to
Speaker 1: us all spring and we sound like broken records. But
Speaker 1: that's why they made this pick. This is a guy
Speaker 1: who as a rookie, if he needs to, I mean, great,
Speaker 1: you still got McFadden and Morris if he needs to. Though.
Speaker 1: He can carry the ball twenty to twenty five times
Speaker 1: a game, he can play all three downs, he can
Speaker 1: protect the passer, he can catch out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this guy is ready to go, more
Speaker 1: so than maybe anybody in this draft, and really since
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. I mean, you can make an argument
Speaker 1: this is the best quarterback, running back, wide receiver trio
Speaker 1: this team has had since the mid nineties. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so you have You're you're kind of bringing back Obviously
Speaker 1: the ages are different, but you're bringing back the Irvin
Speaker 1: Aikman and people dynamic. People were trying to make Murray
Speaker 1: and and Romo and Dez the new triplets two years ago.
Speaker 1: Zeke is a better player than DeMarco Murray. I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, Demo, I mean, you've been in the
Speaker 1: league for six years. You're a great player, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, But I think this is this is something
Speaker 1: else entirely. Yeah, And as we look at the war
Speaker 1: room cam, you know, Jerry Jones sitting there, he looks
Speaker 1: extremely proud of to made this pick and Dave Hellman,
Speaker 1: you said it, and he got this war room back,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that he would. You look
Speaker 1: at the coaches and you're right. Everything you guys have
Speaker 1: said about this and how he helps Tony Romo, how
Speaker 1: he helps his offense. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: believe that he helps his defense. You know. You know,
Speaker 1: I've done so many radio, so much talking about this
Speaker 1: pick for so long now, and the last few weeks
Speaker 1: it really became clear, at least to me, that I
Speaker 1: thought Ramsey was that top guy, but Zeka Elliott was
Speaker 1: so close. He was right there. You just couldn't rule
Speaker 1: him out. And here we are. You know, only that
Speaker 1: room knows who's truly number one on the board. But regardless,
Speaker 1: they got a great player. Yeah. And and this is
Speaker 1: not to say, you know, Jalen Ramsey could have very well, hell,
Speaker 1: hell helped this team. You know, Jalen Ramsey could have
Speaker 1: come in here and done a you know, a nice job.
Speaker 1: Maybe now, maybe one day we'll find out. Was the
Speaker 1: questions about Jalen Ramsey. You know, uh, you know, we've
Speaker 1: we've heard some rumors about some guys like Dion Sanders
Speaker 1: coming in and saying, hey, he can't play corner and
Speaker 1: he can't do this and can't do that. Do you
Speaker 1: think there were enough people that maybe swayed the room,
Speaker 1: swayed Jerry Jones that just some more supplemental Informationally, it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny that put his shirt back on.
Speaker 1: Good for him. He maybe he just rolled it up.
Speaker 1: The biggest question with Zeke is you know, how many
Speaker 1: yards is he going to rush for? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry. He has so few weaknesses.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a player that's very clean on the field. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they're clapping because Zeke just uh
Speaker 1: said that he's going to Dallas to win Super Bowls. Well,
Speaker 1: like I say, everybody's really excited about that, and that's good.
Speaker 1: Oh can I just can I just take a minute
Speaker 1: to point out that that's who I ended up mocking
Speaker 1: today in the in the mock all done well and
Speaker 1: now Jacksonville, Uh, Jacksonville's pick is is uh. I believe
Speaker 1: they're on the clock right the pick is in, so
Speaker 1: Jacksonville will be now with Jalen Ramsey on the board. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is where this is where I think that I
Speaker 1: think that maybe Jacksonville thought they got a gift here.
Speaker 1: You know, they were looking, they were and I was
Speaker 1: talking to Jacksonville. They were thinking about, hey, we you know,
Speaker 1: we'd be happy if if Buckner was there. But you know,
Speaker 1: they were also very happy about Jalen Ramsey. I think
Speaker 1: this could be one of those picks, and this is
Speaker 1: where it will be compared. This is where if if
Speaker 1: in fact it's Jalen Ramsey, this is where history will
Speaker 1: compare if if Jalen Ramsey ens up having a great
Speaker 1: career and Zeke doesn't have a great career, or vice versa.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to point out that the last running
Speaker 1: back to go top five was Trent Richardson. Wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: point that out, but uh no, and hopefully you're right,
Speaker 1: uh or you are right, because they will be compared,
Speaker 1: you know, going if if that is the pick here,
Speaker 1: you know they also like the Forrest Buckner right. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the tackles are still available. Jacksonville could go
Speaker 1: that direction with Luke Jokil coming up in a contract year.
Speaker 1: But I think you know, Jacksonville has been searching for
Speaker 1: that playmaker in the secondary first so long. Now. You know,
Speaker 1: they have one fall in their laps. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to pass on Jalen Ramsey here. Yeah, and they've
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville, they've they've got some nice young skill players.
Speaker 1: You know, Fowler come back, and they got Fowler coming back,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're trying to I think though
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in that if you're Gus Bradley, you're definitely
Speaker 1: in that win now mode. You've got to figure out, well,
Speaker 1: they've got to figure out a way to to you know,
Speaker 1: he got another year and they've been rebuilding for a
Speaker 1: couple of years now, you know, earn that contract. And yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at Jacksonville's team needs,
Speaker 1: it would be uh, the defensive end, which we've talked about,
Speaker 1: cornerback and linebacker. Jacksonville was one of those teams. I
Speaker 1: thought that maybe that Miles Jack would be there, but
Speaker 1: just talking to their guys, I'm curious to see where
Speaker 1: he gets. I would not be surprised if Myles Jack
Speaker 1: ends up Owl's going back up over the war room cam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so good for them and they're so little, do they
Speaker 1: know that we can still see part of the room. Well,
Speaker 1: good for them though that they they the player obviously
Speaker 1: that they wanted. So that's a that's a you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's very interesting because again history will look and
Speaker 1: see if in fact, and it's funny, but I think it,
Speaker 1: I mean not to give us too much credit, but
Speaker 1: I think it kind of it started in that early
Speaker 1: going in January and February, and it sounds crazy with
Speaker 1: everything we know. You know this, maybe this team takes
Speaker 1: a running back at forth and you say, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Yeah, and then you look at
Speaker 1: Zeke and you look at this team and the options
Speaker 1: available to them. There's no Jadeveon Clowney on the board
Speaker 1: this year, and I think, you know, it starts, it
Speaker 1: starts small, and then next thing, you know, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and I think maybe the third time you hear the argument,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, okay, this makes some sense. And I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like that's been the greater scheme in
Speaker 1: this entire thing. All Right, The commissioner's making his way
Speaker 1: down the hallway to the podium. He is going to
Speaker 1: announce Jacksonsville's pick with the fifth pick in the two
Speaker 1: South and sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguard select. There
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, I thought that was an easy pick
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, they've been looking for that playmaker in
Speaker 1: the secondary. Jalen Ramsey falls in their laps. You know,
Speaker 1: for Ramsey, he's staying in the state of Florida where
Speaker 1: he played college ball, and he's going to a team
Speaker 1: that has some promise. Yeah, if if Dante Fowler comes
Speaker 1: back healthy. That defense, you know, they made some splashes
Speaker 1: and free agency signing b Link Jackson So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, that defense could be much improved this year
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Yeah, if you look at it, there that
Speaker 1: their situation though they brought in Prince Amukamar on a
Speaker 1: one year contract. They're looking for a future guy here,
Speaker 1: and so you know they're not they're not really sure
Speaker 1: that you know behind him what they've got. So this
Speaker 1: is a guy that you could definitely build on. I know,
Speaker 1: watching him on tape, you know we were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out I grated him as a safety. Dan. I
Speaker 1: know you talked about him being a safety. Uh, it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see where Jacksonville plays him. But the
Speaker 1: guy does make plays. I will give him that great
Speaker 1: And you could talk about the interceptions or lack of
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you can watch him around the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You can watch him tackle, you can watch
Speaker 1: him do a lot of things to cover and all that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Jacksonville feel like that they got a nice,
Speaker 1: nice gift there with Jalen Ramsey. We all think he's
Speaker 1: an outstanding football player. I feel really good about where
Speaker 1: that team is going in the next few years with
Speaker 1: Bortles and Hearns and Robinson and they got yelled in
Speaker 1: and every plan running back. Now they got this guy.
Speaker 1: You can basically have two top five picks because Dante
Speaker 1: Fowler's coming back to play his hopefully first snaps of
Speaker 1: his career. Hopefully he's coming back one hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 1: I assume that they're going to be a force here
Speaker 1: in the next year or two. Okay, let's just recap
Speaker 1: what has happened since five picks have now or in.
Speaker 1: Jared Golf goes to the Rams, Carson Wentz to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa to the San Diego Chargers. Nice job Chargers
Speaker 1: of hiding that I didn't have Joey Bosa going there,
Speaker 1: but nice job behind. And then Ezekiel Elliott that goes
Speaker 1: to Dallas with the fourth overall pick, and Jacksonville now
Speaker 1: has just taken Jalen Ramsey. That means Baltimore is on
Speaker 1: the clock. And this is where it's kind of get
Speaker 1: interesting with these tackles on the board. Yeah, the Forrest
Speaker 1: Buckner is available to defensive end. The both tackles are
Speaker 1: on the board. Laramy Tunsel and Ronnie Stanley. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know a good nugget here from my buddy over at
Speaker 1: ESPN field yates. First time since two thousand and six
Speaker 1: no SEC players drafted top five. That is that's interesting.
Speaker 1: That wow. Yeah, they need to step it up though,
Speaker 1: don't we dave, we'll be all right next year. We
Speaker 1: got some guys next year. It's Miami one at the
Speaker 1: beginning of Oh one, oh two. Yeah, I mean he
Speaker 1: had Vilma Portois, Sean Taylor ed Reid Well in two
Speaker 1: thousand and fours when they set the record with six
Speaker 1: first rounders. And so it'll be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: the Buck guys can challenge that. They're off to a
Speaker 1: good start with two to a great start, and we'll see,
Speaker 1: uh if they get to six. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get five for sure. And it just that sixth guy
Speaker 1: can Vaughan Bell can uh, you know, Mike Thomas, one
Speaker 1: of those guys sneak into the late first quick Trivia.
Speaker 1: The last running back to go fourth overall was Darren
Speaker 1: McFadden No. Two thousand and eight, which probably not what
Speaker 1: you want to hear, given how Darren mcadden's career in
Speaker 1: Oakland went. Yeah, but I think Ezekie lelled is stepping
Speaker 1: into a far far better situation here than Darren McFadden
Speaker 1: was back. You know the way we watched We're watching
Speaker 1: this war room and seeing how they were on the
Speaker 1: they were on the phones laid you wonder what oh
Speaker 1: sure who was calling the trade up, you know, who
Speaker 1: was calling the entertained Maybe, okay, we'll give you this,
Speaker 1: this and this, who was it? How far would they
Speaker 1: have to move back? Tells you how much they wanted Zeke? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I you could just tell that they were entertaining
Speaker 1: trade offers there. I just think they were fearful that
Speaker 1: they were going to lose Zeek. Yeah, that's that. That
Speaker 1: was that to me, if they knew And again that's
Speaker 1: the that's the intelligence that you gather before the draft.
Speaker 1: You have to figure out what where is he visited?
Speaker 1: You know, what are the teams, and then who could
Speaker 1: be the sleeper team that could come from the back
Speaker 1: of the draft and and make that all happen. I
Speaker 1: think it was Miami. I think they really wanted Zeke.
Speaker 1: They were they wanted to go up there. They wanted
Speaker 1: to get that running back. And you know, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't budge and I think they made the right move.
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, who's an NFL guy, Yeah, makes the astute
Speaker 1: observation that he said, So the Cowboys do value the
Speaker 1: running back position. They just didn't value to Marco Murray,
Speaker 1: which and I mean, I think this is a different
Speaker 1: animal altogether. Zekelly is twenty years old. Twenty years old,
Speaker 1: much different. I just it's a vastly different animal. Given
Speaker 1: this kind of money to this kid at this position
Speaker 1: as opposed to to Marco Murray, I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I granted, like I said, Zekes, you have to play
Speaker 1: an NFL down, but I think he's the better player.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Cowboys move on from Darren McFadden now?
Speaker 1: I think it is. I don't think that they to
Speaker 1: be in any rush to figure that out because they
Speaker 1: don't have a fullback right now. I assume they'll sign
Speaker 1: a guy in sure, but I honestly, especially with Zeke Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think they need a fullback. I think Lance
Speaker 1: Dunbar is a decent candidate to start the year on
Speaker 1: pup anyway while he comes back from this ACL n
Speaker 1: c L injury. So you might not even have him.
Speaker 1: So you got Zeke and you got two capable veterans.
Speaker 1: Would it surprise me if they move on from Darren McFadden,
Speaker 1: Not one bit. But that's not We've seen Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: with those bridge players, you know, two years move on
Speaker 1: kind of a thing, though, that's not something that I
Speaker 1: think they need to be in any hurry to do
Speaker 1: until aunt comes time to cut the roster down though,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe first week of September. Sure, But take
Speaker 1: them all to training camp, figure out what you figure
Speaker 1: out what Dunbar's timeline looks like. Figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: do they need a fullback? If they don't need a fullback,
Speaker 1: why not just carry all four? And we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: a lot about well, why'd they go and sign out
Speaker 1: for Morris? You know, why'd they do it? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: protect himselves probably a little bit. Exactly free agency is
Speaker 1: before the draft, so just the timeline of the off season,
Speaker 1: you know, that type of thing can happen. But again,
Speaker 1: picking top five, you take the best player. You don't
Speaker 1: really worry about, you know, who else you signed in
Speaker 1: the offseason. You go and get the best player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that I think that that's something that we,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to to think about. Though, if
Speaker 1: in fact that they do make that move, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean is that you know, the beautiful thing with
Speaker 1: both of those contracts is big whoop. If they do,
Speaker 1: I like Derek cutting Darren McFadden is not going to
Speaker 1: set them back in any kind of way. Toward the
Speaker 1: salary cap or the roster or anything like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: well it looks like Brad Sham. We have Cowboys royalty
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys long time broadcaster. He's gonna put on
Speaker 1: a headset and tell us how much he is going
Speaker 1: to enjoy saying walk the dog as often as the
Speaker 1: guy does it, all prepared to say it as long
Speaker 1: as it's walking the dog. I you know the thing
Speaker 1: that I thought about that, and you know you and
Speaker 1: I have been talking for a few days. I thought
Speaker 1: that this guy just take let me interrupt you here
Speaker 1: the Raby's gonna pick here just once second. Good commission.
Speaker 1: The thing tackle sixteen NFL drafts. The Baltimore Ravens select
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley Burgo was on that one. I presume you
Speaker 1: guys have seen the little video that mister tunsl tweeted
Speaker 1: out that knead the uh the Elliott thing. To me,
Speaker 1: here's the big deal. You and I talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit, Brian. The other day. Everyone talked about Ramsey
Speaker 1: as a corner right, And I think that if you
Speaker 1: had been talking not you you. I think if people
Speaker 1: had been talking about Ramsey, Dane's uh, Dane's draft list
Speaker 1: listed him as the number one's safety. That was really significant, Dane,
Speaker 1: I thought, because if people had been talking about Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey as a safety from the beginning, no one would
Speaker 1: say take him over Elliott. Right. If he's Dion Sanders,
Speaker 1: then it's do you want Dion or Emmett. If it's
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lot, everyone's taken Emmett. As great as safety as
Speaker 1: Ramsey might be, there's no doubt about which of those
Speaker 1: two guys, as a safety or a running back, is
Speaker 1: going to impact the game more. Zekiel Elliot is going
Speaker 1: to touch the ball more than anybody not named Tony Romo, right,
Speaker 1: for the next five years, Ravis Frederick fair Point by you. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was good and I think,
Speaker 1: as I know you guys have talked about it, it it
Speaker 1: helps the defense. It helps the defense two ways. One
Speaker 1: is it goes back to two years ago when they
Speaker 1: make more first downs, keep the defense freshen off the field.
Speaker 1: But the other thing is they're going to score more points, right,
Speaker 1: and that's going to make other offenses play differently, take
Speaker 1: more chances, which is going to give this defense enhanced
Speaker 1: opportunities to get the turnovers. When you know that if
Speaker 1: you score thirteen points, you're probably going to win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not taking many chances, and your turnover opportunities then
Speaker 1: are not very great. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: mister sham. I don't think there's anybody who's knowledge and
Speaker 1: opinion of Cowboy's lawera I respect more thank you. We've
Speaker 1: discussed this at nauseum over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: How would you feel if they gave this kid twenty two? No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I kind of thought he might know. I
Speaker 1: think there are a few numbers that are sacro sanct eight, twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty two. You know, eighty eight has already been recycled,
Speaker 1: fifty four has been recycled. Sure, but I think the
Speaker 1: all time leading rusher can't get twenty two. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it would. It would be very exciting if
Speaker 1: they did that. But I agree with you, I think,
Speaker 1: and Emmett signed off. You don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: don't you don't want? No? No, I mean you mentioned
Speaker 1: the eighty eight, but on and in Michael Irvin as
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, he's an amazing cornerstone player in
Speaker 1: this franchise. I think Emmett Smith's career. Is that impressive
Speaker 1: that his accomplishments far eclipse Michael Irvin. I would have
Speaker 1: to look back in the book Dave to see which
Speaker 1: if any players had eighty eight between Drew Pearson. That's
Speaker 1: a good point. And when I remember or when Michael
Speaker 1: got it, we all went, whoa. Yeah, they must really
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be good because they gave him Drew
Speaker 1: Pearson's number. Right now, you know, you've only got so
Speaker 1: many numbers, so you have to But twenty two is
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. San Francisco is currently on the clock
Speaker 1: right now, there's four minutes, forty five seconds before they
Speaker 1: have to make their pick. I'm a sucker for these
Speaker 1: types of conversations. What about thirty three? How we feel
Speaker 1: about that? Well, it's already been given out other people
Speaker 1: have born. Sure, yeah, so that doesn't bother you. Well,
Speaker 1: whether it bothers me or not, it's really immaterial. I
Speaker 1: tried to avoid it. But when you're talking about the all,
Speaker 1: it's like in baseball with Pete Rose. You know, did
Speaker 1: he gamble? Yeah? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Well,
Speaker 1: let's make a list of all the people who had
Speaker 1: more hits in the history of the game than Pete Rose. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's make a list of all the people who
Speaker 1: had more rushing yards in the history of the game
Speaker 1: than a at Smith. It is. It is a well
Speaker 1: made point, that's it. It's the reaction when I asked
Speaker 1: brought us for the weaknesses for Ezekiel Elliott. You know
Speaker 1: I went quiet, yeah, quite on that one. A very
Speaker 1: well rounded player. He might not be, you know, elite
Speaker 1: in some areas, but he's just so well rounded, a truth, truth,
Speaker 1: three down player. Well see that. That's a key point,
Speaker 1: because what people forget about DeMarco Murray is one of
Speaker 1: the big attractions for drafting him in the third round. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was a critical piece of the passing game at Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: That he was. He was a much more dangerous weapon
Speaker 1: as a receiver, especially as last year in Norman than
Speaker 1: he was as a runner. And I never thought they
Speaker 1: used him in the passing game the way that the
Speaker 1: Sooners did at the end of his career, and then
Speaker 1: of course they figured out, you know, what they could
Speaker 1: do with this line. I mean, I think it can
Speaker 1: be very exciting, and I think the expectation will be
Speaker 1: that they'll score a lot of points. And now this
Speaker 1: should make the wide receivers better because you're going to
Speaker 1: have to deploy your defenders differently. Right. Well, he's there's
Speaker 1: no doubt that this is a guy that doesn't come
Speaker 1: off the field, right, I mean that this is a
Speaker 1: And when we were the combine all this sitting there
Speaker 1: and we were watching him talk, it was the question
Speaker 1: was about blocking, and he takes I mean that is
Speaker 1: prideful to him peewee football fullback, and he says, hey,
Speaker 1: they were if I didn't block, they were taking you
Speaker 1: off the field. So you and I are going to
Speaker 1: stand next to each other in Oxnard, California when they
Speaker 1: go to the first team drills and see Sean Lee
Speaker 1: and Ezeki ell Elliott let me tell you what, and
Speaker 1: and Training Camp Live will be right there to film
Speaker 1: all of it for you. So yeah, get ready for that.
Speaker 1: Let me I mean, and maybe this is dumb. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has a top five pick and you got a
Speaker 1: two time Pro bowler and a guy coming off an
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards season. They line up against the Giants
Speaker 1: on September the eleventh. I mean, he's Zeke is your guy?
Speaker 1: Zeke is standing there on play number one, do you
Speaker 1: do you not care anything about training camp? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean that's fair, but I guess I don't I get
Speaker 1: that you think he's the guy when the training camp starts.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, is it just an open competition basically?
Speaker 1: Is that's what it is? Best they plug and played, guys,
Speaker 1: I would say that first day, first snap. Now we'll
Speaker 1: we'll know a little bit when we go to OTAs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fourth leading rusher in the NFL last year for
Speaker 1: me is getting the first snap. Yeah, that's I kind
Speaker 1: of agree. I mean, and but it won't take long.
Speaker 1: It won't take long. But I think that's the right
Speaker 1: way to you gotta earn it. Parcels was onto something
Speaker 1: without with not giving them the star on the helmet.
Speaker 1: They still do that. Yeah, the pick is in for
Speaker 1: the for the forty nine ers. This is interesting with
Speaker 1: Laramy tunsel still available. Yeah, how far will he fall? Now?
Speaker 1: Then it's a good question because you know this the
Speaker 1: video that just came out ten minutes before the driver
Speaker 1: his dad right? Correct? Is that you know there's a
Speaker 1: did it surprise me? No? It was a vengeful video,
Speaker 1: is what it was. And so you know, again who
Speaker 1: knows how old it is? But these teams have done
Speaker 1: enough homework on a player like Laramy Tunsel where they
Speaker 1: know already if weed is a problem, is this something
Speaker 1: that they have to worry about. So the fact that
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley went ahead of Laramie Tunsel tells us there
Speaker 1: are some issues here, right because in terms of on
Speaker 1: field talent, Laramie Tunsil has head and shoulders above Ronnie
Speaker 1: Stanley as a offensive tackle. If you look at the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers needs with real quick day, we talked
Speaker 1: about the quarterback there. What's going on there with that situation?
Speaker 1: How about a rusher, defensive end, wide receiver also thought
Speaker 1: about here with the forty nine ers. When we get going,
Speaker 1: I predict this is a team the Cowboys play next year,
Speaker 1: by the way. Predict DeForest Buckner, a guy that Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly recorded at Oregon. Oh you're saying, okay, is it
Speaker 1: give me the why you predicted that one? Well, he's
Speaker 1: I think that he can potentially be a difference making
Speaker 1: defensive linensive lineman. There you go, and he can do
Speaker 1: it at more than one position. Oh, Brad Sham's an
Speaker 1: expert at what he does. Okay, Commissioner making the walk,
Speaker 1: Here we go, say to Forest, but he's here. You
Speaker 1: get to stay, says, come on, Roger, you can do
Speaker 1: it with the seventh pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, because San Francisco forty nine ers select
Speaker 1: the Forest. Thank you, good ladies and gentleman and for
Speaker 1: joining us. And really I think that's a no brainer
Speaker 1: pick for the forty nine ers, Chip Kelly. He knows
Speaker 1: a lot about the Forest Buckner. He coached him as
Speaker 1: a freshman, recruited him, so you could argue that no
Speaker 1: team knew more about the Forest Buckner than the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. Yeah, you could connect the dots on that,
Speaker 1: pointing him in as a defensive ent in a three four.
Speaker 1: He's a prototypical five technique. Yeah, you know, I I
Speaker 1: love this fit for for both sides here. It makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Dude showed up to his interview
Speaker 1: here at Valley Ranch and at three Piece. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a sharp kid, he really really he seems like
Speaker 1: a good He's a kind of he's a win on
Speaker 1: and off the field from the very little I know
Speaker 1: about I'll be back. Boys. You don't need me anymore.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't top that. Drop them like thanks
Speaker 1: very much. Bragg, appreciate your insight, mister sham voice of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. We can look forward to all his calls.
Speaker 1: Say he will be calling Ezekie Lelli at touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the near I can't wait when I hear that walk
Speaker 1: to I get I get excited about. Let's usually a
Speaker 1: touchdown right there. You guys, we have the Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: phone call filing them. Okay, well, Kent Garrison doing a
Speaker 1: little producer on the fly here, so Kent fired up.
Speaker 1: Let's go Ezekiel away. Yeah, hold on as well with
Speaker 1: the cowboys. Somebody wants to talk to you, brother. Hold on, hey,
Speaker 1: Donald cowboy, this Cherry, y'all. I'm just doing great. I
Speaker 1: love Brad for you. Let's get it. Let's get this down.
Speaker 1: We want to pass you over here, let's go. You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Here's your coach. Here's your coach right here.
Speaker 1: I'm good man. How are you doing? Where'd you get
Speaker 1: that suit? I've never seen a cut off shirt before
Speaker 1: like that? Oh my god? He congratulations right here. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's the audience. Can I just say, I don't know,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe maybe somebody, maybe somebody thinks it's like
Speaker 1: disrespectful that he didn't call him mister Jones, but he's
Speaker 1: just so excited. How are you doing, Jerry? I love that? Okay.
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar pointed out that the Browns have in fact
Speaker 1: made a trade. Dane, is you know this is the
Speaker 1: easiest thing to predict in this draft, was the Browns
Speaker 1: were going to trade out of this pick. Do we
Speaker 1: have the Titans coming up for an offensive tackle? Could
Speaker 1: could the Titans get the guy that we talked about
Speaker 1: at number one when they were at the number one pick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that a possibility? Yeah? I think that you're onto
Speaker 1: something with this Titans bunch. I think that they've said,
Speaker 1: and you said it on the Draft Show a bunch.
Speaker 1: Cleveland is a team about the numbers. They want numbers
Speaker 1: they're gonna make. It's me. What's the one team that
Speaker 1: has a lot of ammunition in this draft? Tennessee, They've
Speaker 1: got a lot of picks. So let's see what if
Speaker 1: it meant? There we go, Tennessee goes on the clock,
Speaker 1: see and here we go. If I and this is
Speaker 1: this is just me, but if I took that time
Speaker 1: to acquire all that stuff, I'd rather keep it. I'd
Speaker 1: rather just use it in the order that I've got. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what they had to give up, because they
Speaker 1: had three second rounders. If they only had to give
Speaker 1: up one of those second rounders, maybe a future pick,
Speaker 1: then they still have two second rounders to work with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're going up, you know, Tunsil's still there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could probably argue that no team has probably
Speaker 1: done more homework on Tunsil than the Titans. Run through
Speaker 1: your offensive tackles. We have run through the guys that
Speaker 1: you have in the way you have them ranked. Well,
Speaker 1: Larremy Tunsel's the clear cut number one, But again with
Speaker 1: the off field stuff, there's a lot of intrigue there.
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, Yeah, Michigan stayed offensive tackle. You know, with
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley off the board, Jack Conklin is that next tackle.
Speaker 1: I mean he's in play in the top fifteen. If
Speaker 1: they are not comfortable with Larmy Tunsel and his character,
Speaker 1: then Jack Conklin is absolutely in play with this pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan of Jack Conklin. I haven't
Speaker 1: missed my saying. I like what I wanted you to
Speaker 1: run through, because again we don't know with what's going
Speaker 1: on with Tunsel. This could be this could be a
Speaker 1: this could be a free fall. It could with Laramy
Speaker 1: Tunsel here though. I mean, and you could absolutely be right.
Speaker 1: But I just teams these days have so many ways
Speaker 1: of getting information. They got to know this stuff about
Speaker 1: this guy. This isn't yeah, this isn't that that video
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, This isn't going to be
Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody it's interested in this kid. Well, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: the pick, in fact is in. We're gonna get the
Speaker 1: particulars of what they gave up. They have a lot
Speaker 1: of ammunition to make these things happen, so we will
Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. Here, very excited. I
Speaker 1: think you guys are on the right path of the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. But which one? I mean, we've had him
Speaker 1: linked to Tounsil the whole time, and you know, all
Speaker 1: this craziness with with what's going on. I don't got
Speaker 1: a report that the Titans gave up seventy six, which
Speaker 1: is a third rounder. Oh wow, so they just to
Speaker 1: that's all they gave up. That's a that's an underpay
Speaker 1: to get to that. Oh my god. Yeah, So Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and here's the commissioner. He's making the walk Garrison Cleveland,
Speaker 1: oh And a second rounder next year. I still don't
Speaker 1: think that's too bad. They still have three second rounders
Speaker 1: that to me. Browns have traded the eighth pick to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. With the eighth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Jack Cock. Whoa there?
Speaker 1: So we talked about it. Yeah, and this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna see with these offensive tackles. If you don't
Speaker 1: get them early, they're gonna fly off the board. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be out of luck. So we're for Laramie Tunsel.
Speaker 1: Who knows this is a free fall at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just had two tackles go ahead of you, who knows?
Speaker 1: And and the next one in line if you do
Speaker 1: your list, could Decker from Ohio State Spriggs? I mean,
Speaker 1: could we see two other tackles go ahead of Laramie Tunsel.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I mean, there's teams
Speaker 1: on this board that could use tackles that never would
Speaker 1: have dreamed that Laramie Tunsel would be in their in
Speaker 1: their plan. I mean, I'm thinking specifically of the Indianapolis Cults.
Speaker 1: So the Browns gave up the eighth overall pick and
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder this year for the fifteenth overall picks,
Speaker 1: number seventy six and the third round and then a
Speaker 1: second rounder next year. Yeah, that's not as bad as
Speaker 1: I thought it was at first. I'm getting that second round.
Speaker 1: And this is what you know we talked about. This
Speaker 1: will not be h the only time we see the
Speaker 1: Browns move. I think they're gonna be moving a lot more.
Speaker 1: They want to control next year's draft. They already have
Speaker 1: two first rounders. Now they have two second rounders now
Speaker 1: they have and they have two third rounders next year.
Speaker 1: So the Browns are in position to control next year's
Speaker 1: draft already and they're not done moving around. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: which Jack Conklin, he goes, he goes to, Uh, the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. The Titans a very aggressive move. They they
Speaker 1: they went down in the draft and now they come
Speaker 1: up in the draft. Give them a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for you know, they identified their player, they got picks,
Speaker 1: and we look at Cleveland at fifteen. Now, I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a sweet spot for Treadwell. I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a lot of sense, uh, for the
Speaker 1: Browns moving back getting that playmaker, and you gotta love
Speaker 1: Zeke doing the Ohio. Yeah. I mean for Buckeye fans,
Speaker 1: that's uh. I'm amazed how many Buckeye fans are also
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans. So there's a lot of happy people. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: tam Tampa Bay is on the clock. Hey, Kent, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit of a break. Let's take
Speaker 1: a let's take a go away for about a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes. We come back, we'll talk about Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: being on the clock. They got five forty left in
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Speaker 1: to be a part of this. And as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears made a trade with Tampa Bay. So
Speaker 1: the Bears are now picking at nine. Tampa will drop
Speaker 1: to eleven. This will be interesting to the fact that
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft is in Chicago, so uh, it'll always
Speaker 1: be uh. And so they is Chicago is picking at eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they wanted to get ahead of the Giants at ten. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the name that's been linked with the Giants the
Speaker 1: most has been Leonard Floyd. We'll talk about him a
Speaker 1: little bit if he would the pass rusher from George
Speaker 1: And there's the deal. The Bears gave up a fourth
Speaker 1: round or to swap spaces, go up two spots, take
Speaker 1: the Bucks pick with Leonard Floyd. You know, he reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of Archievous Mango in terms of a
Speaker 1: pass rusher with speed, a pass rusher with a lot
Speaker 1: of athletic ability. But I saw a player that didn't
Speaker 1: play with strength. The functional power wasn't there. Once blockers
Speaker 1: got their hands on him, they could shut him down.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot to like about him,
Speaker 1: but there's also I have a lot of questions. I
Speaker 1: gave him a second round grade knowing he'd probably go
Speaker 1: top fifteen because of the raw athleticism and pass rush ability.
Speaker 1: He had four and a half sacks last year. They
Speaker 1: asked him to do a lot of different things. That's
Speaker 1: not entirely on him, but I think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a risk. But Chicago moving to that three
Speaker 1: to four last season desperately need that pass rusher for
Speaker 1: that scheme. And so I think if we're reading between
Speaker 1: the lines here, it looks like Floyd would be the
Speaker 1: likely trade up scenario here. Yeah, that's and I think
Speaker 1: you're onto something right here with Floyd. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: At the combine though he looked much bigger. He looked
Speaker 1: at that he does on tape. But there's a guy
Speaker 1: that's got some ben to him. He's got some he's
Speaker 1: got he's flexible, he's got for a tall guy, he's
Speaker 1: got some edge rush ability to him. So you're absolutely
Speaker 1: right about the Bears. They desperately could use that type
Speaker 1: of a player going to the three to four. You know,
Speaker 1: they wanted a guy that could rush a pastor, and
Speaker 1: so we'll see what the deal or if the move
Speaker 1: is Okay, the commissioner is making his way to the podium.
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears are gonna make their pet with the Bears
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Speaker 1: remember one of the NFL's greatest men, Chicago's own Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Walter Payton, Sweetness Kevin Well lost lost the
Speaker 1: commissioner there, let's see if you can pull them back. Uh,
Speaker 1: and going from there, hold on we okay, well that's good.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel okay from Chicago. Here Leonard Floyd, Leonard Floyd, we
Speaker 1: got Zeke. So uh it sounds like, like I say,
Speaker 1: we could see the Bears are gonna make their pick. Here.
Speaker 1: We're waiting to see if Zekiel Elliot in fact is online. Zeke,
Speaker 1: are you with us? Maybe not yet. Let's see Zekiel,
Speaker 1: can you hear us? Okay? Here a Valley ranch Brian
Speaker 1: brought us. Zeke is on the camera. They're seeing Zeke.
Speaker 1: We're about to get them live here. Okay here we okay,
Speaker 1: we're still waiting with a lot of things going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're waiting. So yeah, we've uh, the Bears in fact,
Speaker 1: did make the pick Leonard Floyd the defensive end. Let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see off. Uh, it looks like to me the
Speaker 1: commission is gonna make that. I think you're right though, Dane,
Speaker 1: about that about that particular pick. So a lot of
Speaker 1: things going on here, but we're just trying to trying
Speaker 1: to pull it, to pull it all together. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: can get complicated. Yeah production we're getting Yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of going on in the background.
Speaker 1: Uh here, So, um, that means now that the New
Speaker 1: York Giants are on the clock, Dane. You talked about
Speaker 1: this though they had to get ahead the Giants. That
Speaker 1: was Leonard Floyd was their guy that they were holding
Speaker 1: on that now, so now you have the Giants sitting there.
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, yeah, Floyd's off the board, right, we gotta
Speaker 1: go to our next best option, Yeah, at number ten,
Speaker 1: because it looks like that's what Chicago's going up to
Speaker 1: get picks. Not official yet, but that's kind of what
Speaker 1: we're thinking. Yeah, Well, here's the needs for the if
Speaker 1: you want to say, the Giants wide receiver, safety, maybe
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. Could could that be? Could that be
Speaker 1: the case? You know, here we go. Well, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: the commissioner. I thought he'd already announced the pick. A
Speaker 1: lot going on, A lot going on here the audio
Speaker 1: on the pick because we're trying to get zeke on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're in Chicago, so yeah, a lot of uh,
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of dignitaries going on. So yeah,
Speaker 1: in fact, the pick's gonna go in here, we'll see
Speaker 1: if it's Leonard Floyd. I jumped the gun thinking it
Speaker 1: was going to be him. I think you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: about this day. So let's see ken are we going
Speaker 1: to get the commissioner to pick? Are we still waiting on?
Speaker 1: Still waiting on z okay, still waiting on Zee. So
Speaker 1: we'll continue on. Thanks everybody bearing with us on this.
Speaker 1: We're trying to bring you bearing with us, bearing with
Speaker 1: us nice you like that didn't do that? He did? He?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I know, I'm not that smart to do
Speaker 1: it on purpose, though. It's not surprised caught it though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but un but you know, looking back, like I say,
Speaker 1: the U and what we've seen with the draft. Just
Speaker 1: to recap the last several picks of what we've seen
Speaker 1: this round, Jerry Golf goes one overall, Carson Wentz two,
Speaker 1: Joey Boasta three to the Chargers, Ezekiel Elliot, who were
Speaker 1: going to talk to here in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: At four, Jalen Ramsey goes to Jacksonville. At five, Ronnie Stanley,
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Notre Dame, goes to Baltimore at six.
Speaker 1: DeForrest Buttner, defensive in from or, goes to San Francisco
Speaker 1: at seven. Jack Conklin, in a trade up by the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, goes eight, and the Chicago Bears are on
Speaker 1: the clock. And like I said, I think that this
Speaker 1: is going to be Leonard Floyd, and they should and
Speaker 1: it is. In fact, it is Leonard Floyd, the the
Speaker 1: linebacker from Georgia. Dane talked about him. We were talking
Speaker 1: about in what we think about him as a player. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's some time when you watch him on tape, he
Speaker 1: does explode off the football, he does capture the corner
Speaker 1: and so uh, you know the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know a guy that a lot of people looked at,
Speaker 1: you know is probably where would you play for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Would you play this guy as an outside linebacker? Would
Speaker 1: you play him as a defensive end? I think you
Speaker 1: have to. And he's tall, he's long. Uh. You love
Speaker 1: the speed, the flexibility, you know, the way he can
Speaker 1: capture the edge. It's what you want a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: But again, having all those traits are nice, but it
Speaker 1: has to translate the functional you know, football production. And
Speaker 1: so I'm not sold on this player, especially this early.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, it's it's a risk to me again,
Speaker 1: barkievous Mingo is the player that jumps out to me.
Speaker 1: That is not a good stand out up to this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now this is interesting for the Giants because this
Speaker 1: is what this was their guy. Leonard Floyd was who
Speaker 1: the Giants had had pegged as their guy. And so
Speaker 1: now they're going back to the drawing board. You know,
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzel still on the board. You know, Laramie Tunsil
Speaker 1: and Miles Jack are the two biggest wild cards right now.
Speaker 1: You know, could the Giants take a chance on one
Speaker 1: of those wild cards or who Vernon Hargraves is still available?
Speaker 1: A couple different options they could go here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I'm always interested when you're when you're in that
Speaker 1: war room, you're always thinking about your division opponents. Sure,
Speaker 1: you know who who is who is who are they
Speaker 1: going to take? And you know, and and and could
Speaker 1: they get a guy that could make a difference for
Speaker 1: them winning the divisions? And maybe, I mean maybe maybe
Speaker 1: we'll learn to rue the day that the Eagles took
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. But we don't expect that to be twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: right which, you know, it'll be interesting to see where
Speaker 1: the Giants pick. They're in a spot. I mean, Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham went right in this range and obviously made a
Speaker 1: huge splash, So got a big time opportunity to to
Speaker 1: draft the guy who can make a difference right away. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Giants are, in fact, they're on the clock. They
Speaker 1: have two minutes and thirty seconds before they have to
Speaker 1: hand in their pick. Dane Burglar told you exactly what
Speaker 1: happened to them in front of them Chicago, realizing that
Speaker 1: he could be Leonard Floyd could be the guy there,
Speaker 1: guy that they look at and had a target on.
Speaker 1: Bears jump up ahead at nine, make a tray grab him.
Speaker 1: So now will this be where Laramie Tunsel stops, where
Speaker 1: the fall stops. You know, we we've talked about the
Speaker 1: Giants and what they could need. Dave, you even talked
Speaker 1: about a linebacker in the situation. There's some people they went,
Speaker 1: this is like a lot of defense in free agency.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have peg Miles Jack in this
Speaker 1: spot despite the fact that his knee is banged up.
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is my number one rated player in my
Speaker 1: top fifties, and if he were to end up at
Speaker 1: the Giants, I would maybe do a sports cry for
Speaker 1: you here right now. But here's here's the thing. I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: like I've said a few times tonight, nobody that's picking
Speaker 1: these guys should be surprised about Laramie Tunsil, you know,
Speaker 1: having some off field concerns. The Giants have been linked
Speaker 1: to offensive line. They've invested a lot of offensive line.
Speaker 1: If they can get this dude at ten, when two
Speaker 1: weeks ago he was expected to be number one, even
Speaker 1: if he's got off field concerns, I think you got
Speaker 1: to call that a coup. But at this point you
Speaker 1: have to wonder how much work have some of these
Speaker 1: teams done on Laramie Tunsel not thinking he would even
Speaker 1: touch the eleventh through you know whatever, I don't think
Speaker 1: any of these teams really thought he'd fall that far,
Speaker 1: So did they, you know, work on him as thorough
Speaker 1: as some of these other players. It's a great point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so it's it's a kind of a panic situation
Speaker 1: because the Giants are calling around, all these teams are
Speaker 1: calling around. Okay, well why is he falling? Is there
Speaker 1: more to this video and what's going on? So this
Speaker 1: is really I mean, this is a draft drama right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, we we we I mentioned it earlier
Speaker 1: about the Giants with adding the all the defensive presence
Speaker 1: that they they did, you know, with that front seven,
Speaker 1: and could they add you know, Miles Jack, could they
Speaker 1: add a cornerback? You know, I mean there's a couple.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you know, we every time
Speaker 1: we've ever seen the Cowboys and the Giants match up
Speaker 1: with the questions have always been can the Giants hold up?
Speaker 1: You know in the secondary? You know, the front seven
Speaker 1: linebacker has been some issues as well. Yeah, no doubt. So,
Speaker 1: uh you know, I just if you had to just
Speaker 1: guess and just go ahead and throw on your your
Speaker 1: guessing hat, do you have you have somebody in mind
Speaker 1: that the Giants might take here, either one of you,
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, if it's not going to be offensive, line,
Speaker 1: which I don't think it will be. Um, I think
Speaker 1: you look at the secondary. Yeah, I mean you have
Speaker 1: to look at uh, you know, Vernon Hargraves is there,
Speaker 1: William Jackson, Eli Apple, you know teams Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the corner is a premium position in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: so it wouldn't shock me if any of those three
Speaker 1: players is the name here. I completely agree. But I
Speaker 1: mean to go back to Tunsil and maybe he's not
Speaker 1: the pick, but if he is, I mean it's a
Speaker 1: copycat league. You've seen how much credit the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: gotten for what they've done in their line. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: add him to Eric Flowers and um, Justin Pugh. You've
Speaker 1: got three premium talents on that line. And it's a
Speaker 1: similar situation to the Cowboys, I believe. I think if
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was still coaching there, I think you would
Speaker 1: see them try. Tom Coughlin has come out several times
Speaker 1: after the games when the Cowboys and Giants had played,
Speaker 1: and they've talked about, Hey, that is Tom Coughlin's like
Speaker 1: wet dream is having that many first round picks on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Absolutely, absolutely, but I kind of I
Speaker 1: really do like where the direction to Dane's going though
Speaker 1: with that with the secondary. You know, Miles Jack would
Speaker 1: be I think there's just questions now with the microfracture
Speaker 1: and that the possibility of that, and think he's tried
Speaker 1: to be very honest about that and and that team,
Speaker 1: you know, and at some point in time, we're gonna
Speaker 1: call his name in this draft, and maybe we call
Speaker 1: it here at ten, but you know, we're gonna call
Speaker 1: it tonight. We're gonna call it tonight though, And and
Speaker 1: but here's the Commissioner Canada. We still gonna get the
Speaker 1: commissioner or we you know, no commissioner. So the Commissioner
Speaker 1: Goodell is gonna make the trip. We're gonna we're just
Speaker 1: still working on getting Zeke. I have a feeling a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk to Zeke tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're working on all that right now. Commissioner in
Speaker 1: fact is making the pick, and we're gonna get across
Speaker 1: the screen. We will get the scroll. It looks like
Speaker 1: the Apple three buck guys top ten And how about
Speaker 1: that mentioned the secondary and how important that was Eli Apple.
Speaker 1: When you look from a height, length, speed standpoint, it's
Speaker 1: all there. What you look for in a cornerback. Does
Speaker 1: he hold too much? Yes? Is he always supplended some areas, Yes,
Speaker 1: but that's coachable. And this is a twenty year old
Speaker 1: player who has a lot of potential and has what
Speaker 1: you can't coach. The things that he needs to work
Speaker 1: on are fixable. And so for the Giants, you know,
Speaker 1: they get a very young player they can groom in
Speaker 1: that defense. Yeah, Dan, I thought you made an excellent
Speaker 1: point about him. He is a holder, a grabber, but
Speaker 1: he is very physical as has the tackles former teammate
Speaker 1: twice a year. Yeah, and hopefully he won't do that
Speaker 1: very well. So Cowboys, less than a third of the
Speaker 1: way through the first round, three buck guys off the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I would say maybe I'm wrong. Apple was maybe
Speaker 1: one of the ones that was you weren't sure that
Speaker 1: he would even go in the first round. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it just it's hard to see guys or teams
Speaker 1: passing on, you know, guys with this talent, the raw talent.
Speaker 1: He does need a lot of work, but you know,
Speaker 1: some questioned him coming out of Ohio State as a
Speaker 1: redshirt sophomore, but all the talent is there and here
Speaker 1: he made a great, great decision as a top ten pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then uh, you know the things I just looking
Speaker 1: through my notes about him. You know, we talked about
Speaker 1: him having to make the tackle. I saw that he
Speaker 1: could hold the edge, and but there's some snaps where
Speaker 1: you see separation with him down the field, you know,
Speaker 1: when he's not holding. So Dane's right, though, you can
Speaker 1: you can teach this kid. I'm not gonna act like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like he came from some small school.
Speaker 1: He came from Ohio State and so he knows how
Speaker 1: to play football. They will have to work with him
Speaker 1: on his technique and uh and hopefully for him that
Speaker 1: he can come around and not be a guy that
Speaker 1: holds every single play three hours ago. Would you have
Speaker 1: guessed Eli Apples off the board before Laramie Tunsel. No.
Speaker 1: I would not have guessed that Eli Apple would be
Speaker 1: off the board before Darren Lee, another Ohio State buck guy.
Speaker 1: I mean point the Laramie Tunsel stuff is really fascinating now.
Speaker 1: You know, we saw it last year with Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: A different situation obviously, but another SEC tackle now is
Speaker 1: falling down the board. What's his floor? I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no way to predict this right now. You know he
Speaker 1: could I'm not even gonna try and guess, because he
Speaker 1: could go on at this pick right now, he could
Speaker 1: fall out of the first round. There's no way to
Speaker 1: truly know where Lamie Tunsel's going to land. Bill Abraham
Speaker 1: makes a fantastic point on Twitter that Eli Apple can't
Speaker 1: cook though, Like why are they taking what are they doing? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is on the clock. This is a trade
Speaker 1: that they made with Chicago. Chicago did at this time
Speaker 1: own the eleventh pick. Now this pick belongs to the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: And just looking at my draft board, I've got three
Speaker 1: second round guys going off the board if you look
Speaker 1: at it, Stanley, Floyd, and Apple. So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm the one that needs to have my
Speaker 1: head examined here, but I would have surely believed that
Speaker 1: a guy like Hargraves would have gone earlier. You know,
Speaker 1: We've talked about Miles Jack and his situation. You know,
Speaker 1: I've just kind of to be honest, I'm not too
Speaker 1: surprised about Hargraves, just because I think his size really
Speaker 1: hurts him. Yeah, you know, he's such a competitive player,
Speaker 1: he's such a natural cover man. But I think just
Speaker 1: the way the game is leaning right now with corners,
Speaker 1: teams want those bigger guys, and so Hargraves, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait much longer to come off the board.
Speaker 1: But you know, Hardgraves, it seems like it seems like
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, this seems like to be the pick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, because we've everybody's kind of mocked U Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay too, Hard Graves. That was where that was the
Speaker 1: spot that he was going to land. So they get
Speaker 1: the guy they wanted all along while adding a pick. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at if you look at
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, I mean it's inside, outside, defensive line play,
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, a corner, could all be you know,
Speaker 1: if not Um, if not Tampa Bay, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: you're coming up on two others. I think Miami would
Speaker 1: probably love to have him. He's a Florida guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Well I it just this
Speaker 1: whole thing with with tunsl has got me, you know,
Speaker 1: because we you know, again we're we're evaluating the player. Now.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, the teams, you know, are
Speaker 1: hearing these things, they're seeing these things. Who's the first
Speaker 1: team that's gonna not be scared. You know who is
Speaker 1: the first team, and you know that we'll say, you
Speaker 1: know what, the talents too much. We just we'll figure
Speaker 1: this out. We're just gonna draft this game. We'll never
Speaker 1: know if this video that came out ten minutes for
Speaker 1: the draft, if if that has affected how the teams
Speaker 1: have been drafting. Obviously teams knew something was going on
Speaker 1: ahead of time. This isn't a complete shock, but where
Speaker 1: teams are more comfortable before this video came out, Now
Speaker 1: the videos out there thinking, you know what, we were
Speaker 1: already kind of on the fence before. Now we just
Speaker 1: can't take them. And there have been some reports that
Speaker 1: it was the step father that did leak it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Tom will tell how the true story behind that,
Speaker 1: but those are what the reports are. And it's Uh.
Speaker 1: The drama with Tunsil in the draft right now is
Speaker 1: just it's fascinating and terrible for him. Okay, the picks
Speaker 1: in for the Buccaneers. We get back to that talk
Speaker 1: about though we've we've mocked hard Graves to the Buccaneers, right,
Speaker 1: that's kind of been one of a theme that you've
Speaker 1: had talk about Hard Graves though, as a player for
Speaker 1: what the Buccaneers are going to get ultra competitive. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's a natural, instinctive player. He's a coach's son,
Speaker 1: grew up around the game. Uh you know, and those
Speaker 1: sounds like cliches, Yeah, but it's the truth. I mean,
Speaker 1: he really grew up around the game. And you can
Speaker 1: tell his smarts in his leadership. As a true freshman
Speaker 1: at Florida, he really stepped into a leadership role and
Speaker 1: you saw that developed the last three years for the Gators.
Speaker 1: Really tough. He's not the biggest, not the fastest, but
Speaker 1: he understands how to play the positions bracket receivers. He
Speaker 1: has ball skills, so I think besides not having elite
Speaker 1: a straight line speed and elite size length, he's a
Speaker 1: very good corner who's deserving of the first round, top
Speaker 1: fifteen and yeah, I makes sense here. Yeah I had him.
Speaker 1: I had him as I had him as the best
Speaker 1: corner in the draft. Again, I had Jalen Ramsey playing
Speaker 1: as a safety and everything that Dane says, this guy
Speaker 1: doesn't normally travel. When you watched him at Florida, he
Speaker 1: normally didn't travel with the best receivers. He usually he
Speaker 1: just played on He normally just played on the left side.
Speaker 1: And that's something that you know when you talk about
Speaker 1: these elite type, does that guy have the ability to
Speaker 1: go and take and take the best receiver out of
Speaker 1: the game, you know, And and with Hardgraves, I did.
Speaker 1: I will know said this though about him. I saw
Speaker 1: him get bullied a little bit by bigger receivers. And
Speaker 1: so Commissioner is making the walk to the podium. Kent Garrison,
Speaker 1: I think we're back at it. So here's Pittisure Roger Goodell.
Speaker 1: We're the eleventh pick in the two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Vernon and Hard Graves.
Speaker 1: There you go here it isn't. Hardgraves is the third
Speaker 1: corner off the board now because the Jaguars have said
Speaker 1: they will play Jalen Ramsey at corner. There you go.
Speaker 1: So Jalen Ramsey being the first Elapple's second. Now Vernon
Speaker 1: Hargraves at eleven. So you know it's for the for
Speaker 1: the Bucks, they're getting a very competitive player at a
Speaker 1: position of need. They need a corner for Hard Graves.
Speaker 1: He stays in this in the state of Florida, just
Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, it goes to a good situation there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: new head coach there too. Apologies in advance for making
Speaker 1: everything about the Cowboys, but that's back to back corners
Speaker 1: that are going to have to find a way to
Speaker 1: deal with as Bryant this year. Yeah. Absolutely, Actually, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean and the guy that we talked about might
Speaker 1: get bullied a little bit by size I mean bro
Speaker 1: and Hard Greaves for sure. Right when the Bucks come
Speaker 1: to Dallas second to last game of the season, I
Speaker 1: believe right around there right now, towards the end of
Speaker 1: the season. Meanwhile, Eli Apple's first NFL assignment will probably
Speaker 1: be des Yeah, so that'll be a matchup that we
Speaker 1: all look forward to. Okay, the New Orleans Saints are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Uh if the first time, this is
Speaker 1: where I think Miles Jack. Yeah, this is where I
Speaker 1: think Miles Jack is involved right here, And I'm very
Speaker 1: very interested by that, that whole thing with where Miles
Speaker 1: Jack is going to end up, right, And I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: this we talked about, this champaign will take a risk. Well,
Speaker 1: and you look at what the where the Saints are
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees, they probably have a two year window.
Speaker 1: They need a win now and they need defensive help.
Speaker 1: And so you know, forget the long term Miles Jack
Speaker 1: and help you right now. Maybe that is the direction
Speaker 1: they go. They definitely have to go defense. They've been
Speaker 1: talking about maybe Paxton Lynch here. You can't rule anything out,
Speaker 1: but they need defensive help in the worst way. So
Speaker 1: when you look at the top defensive players on the board,
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at Miles Jack, Sheldon Rankins, Shaq Laws,
Speaker 1: and Darren Lee. So I think one of those players
Speaker 1: has to be the pick here for the Saints. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's they can the Sean Payton is he's clearly
Speaker 1: he runs the player personnel department right there with the Saints,
Speaker 1: and you know it's uh, you know, he's he's taken
Speaker 1: a role in that and he's not afraid to take
Speaker 1: a player with a little bit of a risk. You know,
Speaker 1: if he feels like that that player, uh could help
Speaker 1: him win football games. He's won a lot of games
Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints and so he has that opportunity,
Speaker 1: has that big stick, and he will find a way
Speaker 1: to use it. And if in fact, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was just hearing from a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the NFL. This is the spot where Miles Jack could
Speaker 1: very well go. This is you know, they were hopeful
Speaker 1: that Miles Jack would somehow make his way down the
Speaker 1: board to them and that they would go ahead and
Speaker 1: make this pick. They've got four minutes in fift seconds.
Speaker 1: Kent was telling me my ear that we Gary Brown,
Speaker 1: the running backs coach for the Dallas Cowboys, UH, will
Speaker 1: soon join us here. That's fun on headset. And that'll
Speaker 1: be an excited to get and yeah and uh and
Speaker 1: we will get a little bit his insight on what
Speaker 1: he thought about Ezeko Elliott, how excited he has, how
Speaker 1: the other running backs will fit uh in the mix,
Speaker 1: and and and that'd be really some nice insight for
Speaker 1: you there. Okay, once again, the New Orleans Saints on
Speaker 1: the clock, four minutes, twenty seconds left. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: if you look at like I said the team needs
Speaker 1: for the Saints, this is a guy I mean, you
Speaker 1: know you saw him linked to Paxton Lench here the
Speaker 1: last one. I just don't know this, just don't know
Speaker 1: that the need and you know, some Cowboy fans will
Speaker 1: probably say this about the Cowboys, right The need for
Speaker 1: defense on this team is absurd. They could have used
Speaker 1: Apple or Hargraves. They could use a pass rusher. How
Speaker 1: about Rankings here, Yeah, Rankings has probably been the name
Speaker 1: for them. Over the course of the draft. You look
Speaker 1: at you know, every team sees changes in their draft pick,
Speaker 1: it's been Rankins like eighty five percent of the time
Speaker 1: every mock that I've ever looked at. Sheldon Rankins one
Speaker 1: of the best three techniques in this draft and blosive
Speaker 1: up the field right, and he has versatility too, And
Speaker 1: he played some five mostly five technique at Louisville and
Speaker 1: they're they're hybrid three four, So the Saints run a
Speaker 1: little bit of a hybrid as well. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: he would fit really well as a three technique and
Speaker 1: then also play him a little bit in the five,
Speaker 1: play him a little bit on the outside. He can
Speaker 1: play over the tackle. He could do a lot of
Speaker 1: things for you. Yeah, And so Saints can go a
Speaker 1: lot of different directions. Again, we think that they're gonna
Speaker 1: go defense. That Dave even brought up the fact that
Speaker 1: maybe could this be a landing spot for Paxton Lynch
Speaker 1: be thirty seven year old Drew Brees or do they
Speaker 1: address it later in this draw? How about another of
Speaker 1: our of my favorite guys, the Saxon Lynch. Wasn't your
Speaker 1: favorite guy? The Saints parted ways with Marcus Colston this offseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they want a big bodied receiver who goes in
Speaker 1: the top half of the draft. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: That would be not a bad idea. That's something that
Speaker 1: they're trying to help Drew Breese with a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think Saints fans would be apoplectic if the Saints
Speaker 1: drafted Laquon Treadwell that apoplectic that means mad. Sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That with the same university as I know,
Speaker 1: I know. Did you know what that meant? No? Hell no,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what eli apoplectic. That's about it. That's
Speaker 1: a ten dollar word and we need to be using
Speaker 1: like fifty cent words. Yeah, if you look at if
Speaker 1: you look, they got a good young core receivers. If
Speaker 1: you think about it, though, Cooks, Coleman, Snead, could they
Speaker 1: add another one? I mean, bigger body. Goat Marcus Colston
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees. I feel like invented that back shoulder
Speaker 1: fade that that teams love to use so much these days,
Speaker 1: exactly with Marquis Colston gone. They need that big body
Speaker 1: tread well fits the bill. So I think that's another
Speaker 1: name you have to think of here. Yeah, well the
Speaker 1: I I really I expect it to be defense if
Speaker 1: I'm guessing though, Yeah, I think that Again. We've talked
Speaker 1: about the possibilities Miles Jack. We've talked about ranking you know,
Speaker 1: man that that that's a nice player fallunteer right there,
Speaker 1: you know, at at that twelve spot if in fact,
Speaker 1: but we've kind of thought that's where Rankins was going
Speaker 1: to be. Shack Lawson was another guy that we thought
Speaker 1: might be some there somewhere between twelve and fifteen on
Speaker 1: the board, and he loved for Shack Lawson. Here they've
Speaker 1: got Cam Jordan, but I mean the junior gonna let
Speaker 1: thing blew up in their face. They could absolutely use
Speaker 1: a pass rusher um and honestly, I mean y'all correct,
Speaker 1: and they're they're a little bit of a hybrid team.
Speaker 1: But I think Shack Lawson could probably stand up if
Speaker 1: they wanted him to, or no teams worked him out
Speaker 1: in that type of I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: definitely put him in that role myself. I think he's
Speaker 1: I think he could play either end. I think he
Speaker 1: I think he could play though as a you know,
Speaker 1: the Saints going back though to more of a you know,
Speaker 1: with Dennis Allen as a defensive corey. I mean we
Speaker 1: see more you know, four three stuff it used to be.
Speaker 1: It used to be though with Rob Ryan, you know,
Speaker 1: one gap principles and that type of thing. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the the Saints have forty five seconds and is this
Speaker 1: and not to not to beat a dead horse, but
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil following this far down the board. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's gonna continue to throw things. And I mean the
Speaker 1: Saints probably had no intention of looking at tackle. They
Speaker 1: just drafted andrews Pete last year. But when a guy
Speaker 1: like this falls to you and you have a thirty
Speaker 1: seven year old quarterback, maybe you take a look. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean they have they have Toronto Armstead too,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's not something they want to do. Maybe
Speaker 1: the talent is too too fantastic to pass up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just we we've we've thrown a lot of names
Speaker 1: at you right now, and and and that's and that's
Speaker 1: the great thing about this. And the Saints have to
Speaker 1: feel good about the names that are on that board. Sure,
Speaker 1: I mean we we we brought up we what do
Speaker 1: you have tunsil like on your board? Number four? You
Speaker 1: have a number one and I have number four. Your
Speaker 1: number four and your number one player are still available
Speaker 1: at twelve. That's amazingable. Ye see, that's the thing about it, though,
Speaker 1: that I find it's we we watched the tape. We
Speaker 1: we look at you know, we don't get the access
Speaker 1: to player backgrounds and all this other mean, the medical
Speaker 1: stuff we get very very late. So you know anyway,
Speaker 1: but uh, I think we're making to stand up right
Speaker 1: there here we go. Put him right over there, Dane.
Speaker 1: That'd be fine. You just put him right there. We're
Speaker 1: being joined. Yeah, here's the happiest man at Valley Ranch
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Coach coach Garry Brown welcoming running backs
Speaker 1: coach Gary Brown. Yeah, program, how are you, sir? I'm
Speaker 1: doing well. How's everybody good to have you here? Coach
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, we're all we're all excited for you.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact. In war room cam, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about this. Yeah. We saw
Speaker 1: you make an early appearance in war Room came you
Speaker 1: came in right around the start of the draft, and
Speaker 1: we were thinking, well, if coach Brown's in there, I
Speaker 1: wonder what that means. Yeah, yeah, well is that the
Speaker 1: b is that the basic gist of the conversation y'all had. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I got called in by Coach Garrett and
Speaker 1: he asked me to do a you know, a favor
Speaker 1: for him. So I did the favor, and uh it
Speaker 1: worked out the way we was supposed to work out. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're real quick though. We got coach here, we got
Speaker 1: now we got Zeke on the line too with us,
Speaker 1: so I mean he's going so Zeke, it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: Brian and the crew here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys for how you guys doing
Speaker 1: doing great? Thank you? We got we got your coach.
Speaker 1: Gary Brown's here with us, and I'll let Coach Brown
Speaker 1: start the start the talk here. What's going on? Zeke?
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Brown? I'm ready? You ready? Are you ready? Hey? Hey?
Speaker 1: It's time to go out and do what we need
Speaker 1: to do? Oh hey, Zeke? When when the whole process,
Speaker 1: you know, Coach Brown got to got a chance to
Speaker 1: come to Columbus and work you out there and get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit more and then you
Speaker 1: came in for the for the the thirty visits. Can
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about it? And I don't
Speaker 1: want to put you too much on the spot here,
Speaker 1: but you know with coach being here, but talk about
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a relationship you're able to
Speaker 1: develop with coach Brown here close Brown, we got along
Speaker 1: very well. You know I could sell that you gotta
Speaker 1: definitely the man all out of me and that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I want on the coach. Well that's you know.
Speaker 1: And and coach talk about you know what your thoughts
Speaker 1: with about Zee, Well, I'll tell you. We went down
Speaker 1: to Columbus and uh, he was professional, he was ready
Speaker 1: to roll. He did everything that was was asked of
Speaker 1: him and didn't and didn't blink. And then we went
Speaker 1: to lunch. He was he was just a great guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he sat down, we talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of things other than football, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: knew this is the type of guy I wanted to
Speaker 1: be around. And I went that guy in my room
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we got him, Coach, And you mentioned
Speaker 1: the room, I mean, uh, no shortage of talent there.
Speaker 1: You got Zeke you got another number four pick, and
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden you got a two time pro bowler. What
Speaker 1: I mean, what does this do do for y'all? Obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean you have so much talent, but just the
Speaker 1: amount of ability that you have to work with. Well,
Speaker 1: I think what happens is I think that the room
Speaker 1: becomes better with Zeke and it's strong, but now it's stronger.
Speaker 1: I think we have a great mature room that's going
Speaker 1: to help Zeke develop. And you know, Darren, like I
Speaker 1: told Zeke before, Darren is a very mature man. He understands, uh,
Speaker 1: what it is to be a role model and in
Speaker 1: the leader in the room, and he's gonna do everything
Speaker 1: he needs to do to help Zeke get to where
Speaker 1: he needs to be. Yeah, and I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: Zeke about the about the situation there, you know, and
Speaker 1: when we got to visit with you at the combine,
Speaker 1: we were all very excited to see you up on
Speaker 1: the podium and talk about you know, you take a
Speaker 1: lot of pride and the type of physical player you are,
Speaker 1: the blocking and all that. And I know watching coach
Speaker 1: Brown coaching, he coaches these running backs hard on that
Speaker 1: blocking though, But talk about how much pride you have
Speaker 1: in You know, everybody knows you run the ball, you
Speaker 1: catch the ball, but talk about your blocking stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: blocking the prior song is part of my game. When
Speaker 1: I got some while, I'll say that I I was a
Speaker 1: skinny neck seventeen year old team with a bunch of
Speaker 1: grown man so I don't figure out how much separate
Speaker 1: from these guys who are a bigger fass in song
Speaker 1: than me. And I was like, man, I'm not only lucky,
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna play harder him and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do what they don't want to do. Right, That's that's
Speaker 1: what came block and uh at that planet side, I
Speaker 1: was gonna become the best blocking and that's all that did. There.
Speaker 1: You go, Zeke, we got we got you on the
Speaker 1: line and coach you obviously played running back in your day.
Speaker 1: We've heard so much over the last few years about
Speaker 1: devaluing the running back position. We see Todd Gurley go
Speaker 1: ten last year. Zeke obviously at four. I mean, what
Speaker 1: does that say to y'all about what NFL team is about?
Speaker 1: Think about running back? I think what happens is you
Speaker 1: get they get devalue when you don't have them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, if you don't have one,
Speaker 1: you don't really think you need one. You don't need
Speaker 1: one till as third one. You don't need one until
Speaker 1: it's goal line. You don't need one to you need
Speaker 1: to grind the ball out in four minutes. So that
Speaker 1: devalue thing I think is overblown. I think when you
Speaker 1: have talented runners, you take them where they need to
Speaker 1: be taken. Zeke obviously deserved to go at four. He
Speaker 1: went at four, and they're going to be more guys
Speaker 1: that go. So uh. The running backs are making a comeback.
Speaker 1: That's all I can see, you know. Gurley got it
Speaker 1: started last year, Gordon got it started last year, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, with Zeke going, we're gonna try
Speaker 1: to get this thing back strong again with the backs.
Speaker 1: It's great. Well, hey, Zeke, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us again. We look forward to seeing you when
Speaker 1: you get to Dallas and uh and uh best of
Speaker 1: luck to you and look forward to it here. Wait,
Speaker 1: Coach Brown's got one more thing to say. Yeah, Zeke, hey,
Speaker 1: I text you. I know you don't know the number,
Speaker 1: all right, it's a five seven zero number hitting me back.
Speaker 1: Don't they don't avoid me? All right, Zeke, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us for look for to seeing
Speaker 1: we get the Valley Ranch. Okay, all right, thank you?
Speaker 1: All right. I mean talk about the process though a
Speaker 1: little bit. Okay. I mean it was you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of quality backs and and and you know,
Speaker 1: it's not often like David was saying, it's not often
Speaker 1: that that the running back gets to go. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen what happened with Murray and the money and
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, you must have made a hell
Speaker 1: of the pitch to get this. Well. I think he
Speaker 1: did most of the work. He put it out on tape.
Speaker 1: I was just able to you know, put it together
Speaker 1: and put it into a tape and in my words,
Speaker 1: my report that you know, uh, that the guys that
Speaker 1: were making the decisions could see it and understand what
Speaker 1: he would mean to our football team. I think what's
Speaker 1: going to happen is and Coach Garrett has said it
Speaker 1: all along. This guy's gonna help every fastival food absolutely so. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't it wasn't just me, it was
Speaker 1: everybody on board. The whole coaching style was on board,
Speaker 1: and we just wanted this guy because we felt that
Speaker 1: he could help our whole team, not just the offense. Coach,
Speaker 1: we know that he's very well arounded as a player.
Speaker 1: What do you think he does best? I think he's
Speaker 1: probably the most complete babb in coaching NFL for eight years.
Speaker 1: He's the most complete back that I've been able to scout. Ye. Now,
Speaker 1: when I say complete, he can catch, he can run,
Speaker 1: he can block, he can run routes from any position
Speaker 1: on the field. He's the most complete guy I've been
Speaker 1: around eight years doing this. So when you get guys
Speaker 1: like that and you get an opportunity to get him,
Speaker 1: you gotta go get him because they're going to elevate
Speaker 1: everything around you. Now, Coach Brown, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for this one of the folks. If you ever have
Speaker 1: the opportunity we're out at training camp or whatever, you
Speaker 1: get to see Coach Brown coach him up. He's one
Speaker 1: of the good ones. He's a teacher and he'll get
Speaker 1: all he can out of him. I've got to. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a surprise to you, obviously. I mean this
Speaker 1: is such an intensive process. You guys went to Columbus
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, But when you got the call
Speaker 1: from Jason to come into the war room. I mean,
Speaker 1: what was what was your thought process? What were your emotion?
Speaker 1: It's pretty excited when they called me, and I figured, well,
Speaker 1: it must be close to picking him. So when I
Speaker 1: went in there, you know, he asked me to do
Speaker 1: a favor for him and I did the favor, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt really good after I did the favor. So
Speaker 1: can you can you tell us feel good? Can you
Speaker 1: tell us what the favor was? Well, it was just
Speaker 1: a calling just to call him, see where he was,
Speaker 1: see if anybody was trying to talk to him or
Speaker 1: trade up or whatever, like dad, get a feel for him.
Speaker 1: And that was it. It was nothing really major. But
Speaker 1: when I've heard his voice and heard the excitement and
Speaker 1: I heard Jason's excitement, it really made me feel good
Speaker 1: they were gonna be able to get the special guy. Well, coach,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us for aciate. Absolutely
Speaker 1: congratulational and getting your guys. Absolutely it's gonna be Jerry
Speaker 1: Brown the most interesting position to watch absolutely boys campus year.
Speaker 1: Thanks again, coach, we appreciate that. Okay, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: some We're gonna have some press conference stuff coming up.
Speaker 1: Just to just to recap here at the Saints in fact,
Speaker 1: didn't make the pick of Sheldon Rankins at twelve. Laramie
Speaker 1: Tunsel picked with the Dolphins thirteen. So Laramie Tunsel goes
Speaker 1: from Sheldon Rankings. So thanks everybody to thank Zeke, Thank coach.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of juggling going on there. Thanks everybody,
Speaker 1: Kent you guys in there for getting that all done.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna look at going to UH to
Speaker 1: the press conference coming up with UH with UH with
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett. That should be
Speaker 1: coming up momentarily. Again. The picks has just been made.
Speaker 1: Eli Apple ten to the Giants, Vernon Hargraves eleven to
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Sheldon Rankings. The very talented defensive tackle from
Speaker 1: Louisville goes to the Saints and then the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: in the weight and the agony of Laramie Tunsel, the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle from Old Miss. The talent is just too
Speaker 1: good to pass up to sin and and that's and
Speaker 1: that's that's one of those risk and reward we'll get.
Speaker 1: We'll get the story one day. It's nice to see
Speaker 1: as an LSU man and they'll always cheer for an
Speaker 1: old miss guy. But right there, I'm happy for that
Speaker 1: kid because I know it was a very difficult time
Speaker 1: for him sitting there and watching that all transpire. He
Speaker 1: looked like he was having a rough go of it
Speaker 1: when the cameras were cutting to him during that whole process. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders are on the clock right now. They've
Speaker 1: got four minutes and forty seconds, Dane, he's your number
Speaker 1: one player, Tunsil on your board. Talk about the talent
Speaker 1: that we see in Laramie Tunsil. Yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 1: situation here where he was the best player that I've
Speaker 1: scouted in the last year playing and simple top draft
Speaker 1: eligible player. In my opinion, some guys were born to
Speaker 1: be left tackles, and that's Laramie Tunsil. It's just so
Speaker 1: natural for him. His body control, as athleticism both in
Speaker 1: his kick slide and also his ability to mirror in space,
Speaker 1: his ability to reset on the move, plays with power,
Speaker 1: plays with quickness. Again, he just has everything you want
Speaker 1: in a left tackle. You can plug and play for
Speaker 1: a long time. The question and the only reason he
Speaker 1: has fallen to this point is the character concerns and
Speaker 1: and the worry about you know, can you trust him?
Speaker 1: So time will tell if the Dolphins end up getting
Speaker 1: a steal at this point or if he fell for
Speaker 1: a good reason and the and the Dolphins are taking
Speaker 1: a risk here, well, you probably are going to get
Speaker 1: a player that has a chip on his shoulder right now.
Speaker 1: And he has to be very relieved by this. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's telling everybody they'll listen that he's
Speaker 1: ready to go to work and do what he has
Speaker 1: to do to be successless. League and Dane, I think
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head with this player,
Speaker 1: you know, And and he is a when you watch
Speaker 1: him play out of a two point stance, he is
Speaker 1: he is tough. I mean he is. He is a
Speaker 1: When he sets on you, he gets his arms extended.
Speaker 1: He's very athletic, his footwork is outstanding. A little trouble
Speaker 1: when he gets a little too high with his with
Speaker 1: his set. But other than that, man, he is a
Speaker 1: guy that is an all day sucker when it comes
Speaker 1: to having to play against him. So the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: got damn a very very good football. Yeah, there's no question.
Speaker 1: And with Tunsil, I don't think this is. This isn't
Speaker 1: a bad guy. It's more of a decision making issue.
Speaker 1: This is a player who was suspended seven games as
Speaker 1: a junior for nca in fractions. Uh. You know, he
Speaker 1: has dealt with some injuries and you know he's currently
Speaker 1: in a family situation, and you don't want to when
Speaker 1: you're drafting a player. You don't want to bring that
Speaker 1: drama into your locker room, into your franchise. You want
Speaker 1: to draft a player that's going to represent your team
Speaker 1: and your organization with the ultimate class. And Tunsel is
Speaker 1: a I believe in him as a person. You know,
Speaker 1: I've talked to enough people that I think he's a
Speaker 1: good person. It's just the decision making. Can you trust him?
Speaker 1: And so it's a risk at this point, but I
Speaker 1: think the reward is worth it. Yeah, And I dave
Speaker 1: any thoughts on Laramy tunsel I and I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm reading I'm reading my Twitter feed with with all
Speaker 1: of this stuff that's coming out since then, and I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins are going to come out of this
Speaker 1: looking all right. To be totally honest with you, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've done your homework on this guy. What I mean,
Speaker 1: have we heard anything about a failed drug test, I
Speaker 1: mean at the combine or anything like that. The only
Speaker 1: thing that was alarming was the Kenichi thing. Was he
Speaker 1: was involved or not? He almost pronounced that right by
Speaker 1: the way, almost Kenichi kimchi Chi. Yeah, just act like
Speaker 1: the inn isn't there. I didn't. I tried not to,
Speaker 1: but I was just excited to try and get the
Speaker 1: word out. It is concerning. And yeah when that when
Speaker 1: when kim Diechi talked about him at the combine, it
Speaker 1: was but there's no no red flags have actively happened
Speaker 1: that we know about during this process. Uh, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound like this video was filmed
Speaker 1: today or anything like that. Uh. And so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, you know, but I just have a
Speaker 1: feeling that Dolphins are going to come out of this
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about this. Okay, the Oakland Raiders are
Speaker 1: on the clock. The pick is going to be in.
Speaker 1: And even if they don't, sorry, but even if they don't,
Speaker 1: you talk. I mean, Gregory was worth the risk at
Speaker 1: sixty tons is widely considered the best player in this
Speaker 1: entire draft, all the way down at thirteen. I think
Speaker 1: it's worth the risk. Yeah, absolutely, I'd say, so Raiders
Speaker 1: on the clock or a sum pick is in for
Speaker 1: the Raiders. We'll see which direction they go, lineback or
Speaker 1: inside defensive line help potentially and potentially are running back
Speaker 1: any direction? You think that anybody as you look at
Speaker 1: your board, is there somebody that that we've talked about
Speaker 1: Miles Jack? Say they brought in Miles Jack for a workout,
Speaker 1: so they they've done a lot of work on Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, this is the range where we
Speaker 1: could see him off the board. Reggie Raglan can be
Speaker 1: that inside linebacker they've been looking for. It looks like
Speaker 1: we have the pick. Yeah, Commissioners going to the podium
Speaker 1: right now, and we'll see Raiders Raiders at the pick
Speaker 1: number fourteen. Here we go, with the fourteenth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select
Speaker 1: Carl joseph Is. That is surprised to me. It's very surprising,
Speaker 1: and like right before the draft started, I was like
Speaker 1: talking to Dan, I was like, you think he sneaks
Speaker 1: into the first round. Do you think you think maybe
Speaker 1: they'll be there? He was like maybe. I mocked him
Speaker 1: at twenty one in my final mock draft I did
Speaker 1: think he would sneak into that first round, but it
Speaker 1: is surprising to see him go top fifteen. This is
Speaker 1: an undisciplined version of Earl Thomas is who he is,
Speaker 1: and he's also coming off major knee surgery. So right,
Speaker 1: those are the red flags. But you know the pros
Speaker 1: with Karl Joseph as the dude flies all over the
Speaker 1: field and he flies around with reckless of bandon. He
Speaker 1: is a missile. He'll knock you into tomorrow. He's that
Speaker 1: type of player. So I get it. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're going to draft him this high, you have to
Speaker 1: kind of ignore the negative because he's going to miss
Speaker 1: some tackles and at that size, the way he plays
Speaker 1: the game, how long can he hold up? Does he
Speaker 1: have the durability to you know, be a seven year pro.
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced because he is a little undersized and
Speaker 1: the violent way he plays the game, he's welcoming. He's
Speaker 1: going to welcome injuries, and so I have some questions
Speaker 1: about the pick, but hey, it's a chance to risk,
Speaker 1: and the Raiders that their track record in the first
Speaker 1: round the last few years has been very good, and
Speaker 1: so uh, it's going to be interesting. To see him. Well,
Speaker 1: the Hayden pick wasn't good has been good for him
Speaker 1: if you know the last two two drafts. Right, absolutely absolutely,
Speaker 1: you're right about that. And I and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I I thought that maybe that we were talking
Speaker 1: about Karl Joseph at thirty four. Maybe that was what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe that was. I think somebody
Speaker 1: on our staff mocked him at thirty four. Maybe not today,
Speaker 1: but in the last week or so, right, I mean
Speaker 1: I always assumed he was somewhere in that twenty five
Speaker 1: to forty range. I'll tell you what you do. Watch
Speaker 1: him play, though he is a blur on tape. He
Speaker 1: comes flying forward, He's very physical and but I will
Speaker 1: say this though he will also miss Big two. He
Speaker 1: will he will, he will come for and you'll see
Speaker 1: him just flat missed the guy and it missed the
Speaker 1: ballcare in space. But when he when he connects X,
Speaker 1: it's a knockout blow. There's no doubt about that. A
Speaker 1: little bit of breaking news that Zeke Elliott is wearing
Speaker 1: number twenty one. Hey, huh, there we go. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, he's gonna have to buy that off. Terrence
Speaker 1: mention or number fifteen in college, and we wondered, you know,
Speaker 1: and talk about twenty two, talk about you know, maybe
Speaker 1: twenty five, but twenty one. Okay, if fits him, So
Speaker 1: here we go. If he yeah, twenty one. So everybody
Speaker 1: out there order your Zeke jerseys in the I don't
Speaker 1: think we can cut them in half. We can't crop him.
Speaker 1: I kind of I wish I was a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 1: because I would you get a Zeke jer would absolutely
Speaker 1: go I only get to hit you in the face
Speaker 1: on Twitter if it was at thirty four. Right, you're done.
Speaker 1: You can't hit me. I actually tweeted, I said, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit me, it's not gonna be because of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe you'll hit me by the end of the draft,
Speaker 1: but it won't be because of Zeke. Well that's that's
Speaker 1: the pro shops missing out if they don't release some
Speaker 1: kind of crop top. Right, Yeah, I apolize on that. Hey,
Speaker 1: he's a pro athlete. Now, Zeke would be crazy if
Speaker 1: he doesn't try to make a crop top. He can
Speaker 1: make his own. He can make his own. I'm sure
Speaker 1: those in practices that will be a big part of
Speaker 1: his wardrobe. So let's recap though the last say the
Speaker 1: last five picks. Karl Joseph goes to the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: at fourteen Laramie Tunsel the fall stops from him for him,
Speaker 1: excuse me at thirteen to the Dolphins. Sheldon Rankin's a
Speaker 1: very talented three technique for the New Orleans Saints at twelve,
Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves the quarterback from Florida at eleven, and then
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, the cornerback from Ohio State, goes to the
Speaker 1: New York Giants. The Cleveland brown This is going to
Speaker 1: be interesting because on the clock there's a few options here.
Speaker 1: Wide receiver is the most glaring need on the roster
Speaker 1: besides quarterback. They need playmakers, and they have their choice
Speaker 1: of all the receivers on the board here. It's also
Speaker 1: possible landing spot from Miles Jack. They've done a lot
Speaker 1: of work on Miles Jack as well, so that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: So the Browns whun't shock me if they traded back again.
Speaker 1: So a couple of different things could be in the
Speaker 1: works here. Okay, well that's uh, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: interested because they're gonna finally pick. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: stand in makeup and the Browns finally have to add
Speaker 1: somebody today, they've had they've had a Hey, you know
Speaker 1: what the way this has all gone, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: still a lot of good players there. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you guys a question. If you're with we've seen the
Speaker 1: war room cam is covered, look like there's anybody in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and oh, well they're doing their press cout right, But
Speaker 1: do you whitpoint time do we reconvene in that room
Speaker 1: and maybe think about jumping into this draft? Well that
Speaker 1: if that's the case, people are asking me. People are
Speaker 1: asking me, well they're doing what are they asking you?
Speaker 1: They're doing their press conference? Right, So does that mean
Speaker 1: they're done? And I don't think so. I think they
Speaker 1: probably want to get this thing out of the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not even halfway. Well, we're just about halfway through
Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, I want to I just they're
Speaker 1: gonna get this out of the way. They'll probably take
Speaker 1: them a half hour. They'll get back right around the
Speaker 1: time like the twenties are starting, and then they can
Speaker 1: see what they see and decide if they want to
Speaker 1: try to do so in the in the In the
Speaker 1: the mock draft we did yesterday, we talk talked about
Speaker 1: that one of the scenarios was would you be willing
Speaker 1: to part ways with what are your picks? Say one
Speaker 1: oh one to get back in And we we identified
Speaker 1: some teams as Seattle at twenty six, Green Bay at
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Kansas City at twenty eight, Arizona at twenty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: would you be willing to part with that? And uh?
Speaker 1: And I think the all right, I mean you look
Speaker 1: at it. Who on this board, Who's who's left that
Speaker 1: needs to make a pick that might want a quarterback?
Speaker 1: Well that Cleveland, Cleveland, Uh, the Jets, you got, Arizona, Yeah, Denver.
Speaker 1: So three or four teams could be could be the case.
Speaker 1: What you you talked about Cleveland? You you're really wired
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Yeah. And you brought up receiver though, go
Speaker 1: through your receiver. I'm sorry. Um. Brandon George of the
Speaker 1: Dallas More News is saying cowboys are postponing their press conference, okay,
Speaker 1: and you can see some people are kind of filtering back. Okay.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they get something. They're gonna hang out and
Speaker 1: see maybe that if there's something worth seeing on the trade.
Speaker 1: You don't talk about the commissioner's walking in, But I
Speaker 1: thought it was an interesting point, they do not have
Speaker 1: any receivers do that? They don't. They need a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And so do you go the big possession type try well,
Speaker 1: you go to Speeds or Corey Quill See what sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL draft the Cleveland Browns on fire the pick? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's to me, he was the number two receiver in
Speaker 1: this draft. I'm not surprised to see him go off
Speaker 1: the board first he went, I haven't high. I have
Speaker 1: a Kuan Trade will hire as well. But I think
Speaker 1: for the type of wide receiver you're looking at, Corey
Speaker 1: Coleman wins at all levels. He can win in a short, intermediate,
Speaker 1: and deep. He needs to learn the route tree. There's
Speaker 1: no question about that coming from the Baylor offense, right.
Speaker 1: But you know, a player with that talent and that
Speaker 1: competitive temperament, I think it's just a matter of time
Speaker 1: before he finds success and you know, you look at
Speaker 1: it he does. Steve Smith comparisons are rampant when you
Speaker 1: talk to people in the league about Corey Coleman. The size,
Speaker 1: but his ability to play above that size, hit, the
Speaker 1: way his anger, the way he plays, fit, tough and physical.
Speaker 1: It fits Corey Coleman. So for the Browns that need
Speaker 1: a playmaker. I love the pick. Yeah, it's actually I
Speaker 1: love two things. One you were Baylor Pro day, weren't you.
Speaker 1: I met Corey Coleman actually talked to him. He is
Speaker 1: a Dallas native. He grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1: I wrote a whole story about it. He is I I.
Speaker 1: He's a confident kid on top of the talent. He's
Speaker 1: already a Jordan guy. You know it took Deaz's years
Speaker 1: to get to that point. He has absolute confidence in himself.
Speaker 1: I like his demeanor a lot. I came away from
Speaker 1: meeting him and talking to him and watching him work
Speaker 1: out very much reminded of Odell Beckham. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll be O'Dell Beckham, but he certainly has. Get
Speaker 1: to see this year. How about this? You know Robert
Speaker 1: Griffin the third Uh, he leaves Baylor two two eleven
Speaker 1: for the twos and twelve draft. Corey Coleman is the
Speaker 1: Baylor in twos and twelve. So they just missed each other.
Speaker 1: Right for Corey Coleman, he had to be a little
Speaker 1: bummed missing RG three. Now they're gonna be teammates in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and he's gonna catch a few touchdown passes from
Speaker 1: RG three for the Browns. Okay, that means now the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are on the clock. Uh man, the Lions
Speaker 1: kind of now in the middle of really the draft here,
Speaker 1: and if we look at their team needs and what
Speaker 1: the time, big time favor to take a tackle offensive tackle?
Speaker 1: Humh yep, do you have one in mind, Dame Burglar? Well,
Speaker 1: there's only one left, I say, Taylor Decker. I mean
Speaker 1: it makes the most sense. He can play left tackle,
Speaker 1: right tackle. Uh. You know, a guy that might not
Speaker 1: be in terms of athleticism, might not might not be
Speaker 1: the most explosive, might not have the best range, but
Speaker 1: when he has a chance to sink anchor and neutralize quickness, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a really good player, and so
Speaker 1: I think he's a plug and play. He might not
Speaker 1: have that high ceiling that you want right but he
Speaker 1: can play right now and he's going to be an
Speaker 1: NFL starter for a Yeah. The team needs number one
Speaker 1: that offensive tackle left or right major weakness, you know,
Speaker 1: they need to They need to find a way to
Speaker 1: shore up that position. And from what everybody's talking about here,
Speaker 1: the last tackle on the board for you that could
Speaker 1: be in this consideration would be Taylor Decker. So let's
Speaker 1: see if in fact that the Lions do make that pick.
Speaker 1: And remember in this draft, if you don't have that tackle,
Speaker 1: you have to get them early because they're gonna fly
Speaker 1: off the board here. This, you know, will be the
Speaker 1: fourth tackle in the top sixteen. So we're midway through
Speaker 1: the first round. Four tacklers are gone, and I think
Speaker 1: there's a good chance we see six offensive tackles drafted
Speaker 1: by the end of the night. Jermaine Effetti definitely a
Speaker 1: name to watch here. But if again, if you don't
Speaker 1: get your tackle early, you're gonna be in trouble. So
Speaker 1: look for the Lions to address that number one need.
Speaker 1: They also have needs on the defense defensive end, right,
Speaker 1: They could address a few other spots, but tackle Taylor Decker.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to pass on a player like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it will be too. I like what you're
Speaker 1: saying about Deck. I saw a guy that I thought
Speaker 1: was a very good athlete. You know why. A nice
Speaker 1: bass player, technically sound, you know, he fights to sustain,
Speaker 1: drive guys off the line. When he gets that double
Speaker 1: team situation, seals down can you know, can take away
Speaker 1: the corner. He's just he's a very good athlete. When
Speaker 1: you watch him play the I mean the head's not down,
Speaker 1: he doesn't play with the tops of his feet. His
Speaker 1: head's back and he's extending and he's staying in position. Okay,
Speaker 1: Commissioner Goodell's making that walk. Let's go to him. Taylor Decker.
Speaker 1: With the sixteenth pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions select Taylor Decker. Hat away, boys, good job,
Speaker 1: Buckeye number four, the boar, here we go. Yeah, Taylor Decker.
Speaker 1: And we talked about him. We talked about all the
Speaker 1: strengths about him. Uh, Like I said, yeah, Buckeye number four.
Speaker 1: If I'm not more, and then Darren Lee here should
Speaker 1: be number five. Yeah, and then it's the question do
Speaker 1: they get number six? Yeah. Fascinating for me is that
Speaker 1: I think maybe one of the most obvious needs in
Speaker 1: this first round is that the Colts need help on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yes, wiped out at tackle. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they were just kind of not they just they're one
Speaker 1: of those teams that didn't, you know, didn't seem like
Speaker 1: they appear like they wanted to move up. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: get now, like Buddy, Tommy Dimitroff, the general manager, the
Speaker 1: Falcons are on the clock. Linebacker is a need? Is
Speaker 1: you you're talking about Lee? Weren't you there, Dame Burglar?
Speaker 1: But Mile Jack? That's what I'm saying. Will they take
Speaker 1: a chance? Linebacker? Safety, defensive line? Help right there? They
Speaker 1: they passed rush needs is a strong priority. This run
Speaker 1: stopper inside the Babineaux is a thirty five years old.
Speaker 1: So let's see. I mean, you know, linebacker, safety, defensive line.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about how fast, I mean, Miles Jack?
Speaker 1: Could that be the guy you talk about? Buck Eyes?
Speaker 1: Darren Lee has been a popular pick to go to
Speaker 1: the Falcons. They need a linebacker. You follow all those
Speaker 1: mock drafts, Miles Jack is the best linebacker? Right? Do
Speaker 1: you run that risk at seventeen? That hey, we'll deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, at what And that's fascinating
Speaker 1: to me, Like, at what point does he become worth
Speaker 1: the risk? Maybe it's here? Yeah, Well let's see, I'm
Speaker 1: looking right now into the Falcons war room. Tommy d
Speaker 1: My buddy is on the phone right now, so he's
Speaker 1: probably talking to his pick about five minutes thirty seconds
Speaker 1: left before they have to hand that in. So h
Speaker 1: we'll see if if in fact that they're they're trying
Speaker 1: to make a deal like David said, or are they
Speaker 1: going to stand in here and pick a linebacker. I
Speaker 1: have an update on the press conference is going to
Speaker 1: be ninety minutes from now, so maybe we're trying to
Speaker 1: get Wow damn, that's okay. Yeah, press conference is if
Speaker 1: a ninety minutes from now, would put it at ten
Speaker 1: thirty Central time, So we'll cover that here on Stars
Speaker 1: dot Com. Sorry English fans. Yeah, hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: thanks for all the English fans. We shot out to
Speaker 1: Dan Turner who joined us at the combine. We got
Speaker 1: people listening Lauren in the UK, Jamie all those. We
Speaker 1: got people listening in Denmark, Larria, Australia, Ireland. Yeah, probably
Speaker 1: every state in the US. If I had to guess,
Speaker 1: thank you folks for saw Mexico. Yeah, yeah, tweet us
Speaker 1: where you're from. If you're listening from Afar, that'd be awesome. Um.
Speaker 1: I've meant to make this point fifteen minutes ago, but
Speaker 1: it's hilarious to me. Carl Joseph and Corey Coleman, at
Speaker 1: one point in time were both popular picks for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at thirty four, sure off the board at fourteen
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Yeah, well the Falcons. Uh, the Falcons pick
Speaker 1: is in. We've talked about their team needs linebacker, safety,
Speaker 1: defensive line. Any anybody strike your fancy out of those
Speaker 1: three positions. When we talked about the linebackers, we talked
Speaker 1: about shuck. Could we see another roost? Can we see
Speaker 1: another safety out of it? Is there? Is there? Von Bell?
Speaker 1: Is there? Somebody on? O'Neill has been talked about as possibility,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about him a little bit though he's
Speaker 1: the play he's been getting a lot of popular praise
Speaker 1: here lately. He's a decleter. He's a guy that plays me.
Speaker 1: He does he wants. He's an angry guy. He does.
Speaker 1: But he also tested really well and so even though
Speaker 1: he's known as a downhill guy, I think he showed
Speaker 1: the athleticism that you want to see from a safety
Speaker 1: to hold up in coverage. And so I think Keyan O'Neill,
Speaker 1: who was invited to Chicago for the draft, uh, not
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw him as a first round pick,
Speaker 1: but the Falcons have done a lot of work on
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill, and they were linked to them maybe in
Speaker 1: the second round, but if they want Keyan O'Neill, now
Speaker 1: it might be the best chance they have to get him.
Speaker 1: Do you like him better as a cover guy than
Speaker 1: say Joseph? I mean, do you do you get a
Speaker 1: guy that you feel like that you can do a
Speaker 1: little bit more within coverage? Well, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think he has the athleticism. I
Speaker 1: ask you a bad question. Well, it's Joseph. The way
Speaker 1: he flies around the field. I mean, I think that athleticism,
Speaker 1: that speed, that closing burst that he has, I'll take
Speaker 1: Karl Joseph in that respect. Sure, I'm not Yeah, But but
Speaker 1: but the coverage part, the part Neil has. I think
Speaker 1: the way he tested and the way the potential that
Speaker 1: he shows, I think has teams really excited. The safety
Speaker 1: position alone, if you don't have a safety you're in
Speaker 1: trouble because at the position, how important it is these days.
Speaker 1: And if you have, if you have that speed, they're
Speaker 1: gonna go and get you. And so I think he
Speaker 1: could be in this first round range. Here in addition
Speaker 1: to everything else, I listed Hungary, Puerto Rico. Thank you, folks.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that it's in the UK, it's in the KIND,
Speaker 1: it's in the US. But Hawaii, Yeah, way the hell out.
Speaker 1: We got a Germany. I'm really appreciate that. All that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being a part of our
Speaker 1: draft coverage here. All right, well Dame spelled it out
Speaker 1: for you. We were thinking linebacker, we're thinking safeties, we're
Speaker 1: thinking defensive lineman here for Atlanta. I I you know,
Speaker 1: that's when you get to this point, we're starting to
Speaker 1: run out of names. I mean, well, it depending on
Speaker 1: how your board is. Remember it's like for maybe eighteen
Speaker 1: first round names, maybe nineteen ye first round names. But
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my board, I've still got some first
Speaker 1: round guys, you know, with Dotson and Tread, Noah's Spence
Speaker 1: Billings read Jack Ragling. I mean, I've still got some
Speaker 1: first round cats that I could deal with right here. Sure,
Speaker 1: and they can go in a couple different directions here,
Speaker 1: because Atlanta does need and they have a few needs
Speaker 1: in a few areas. They need a playmaker on defense though.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to. Is there
Speaker 1: a guy they seek that could be a playmaker. And
Speaker 1: you know, we've been saying it with Miles Jack you know,
Speaker 1: another boy possibility. But the knees the whole need, that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Okay, the commissioners making that walk, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Atlanta's pick here that would be picked
Speaker 1: number seventeen. Here in the first verse, seventeen will tend
Speaker 1: back inside the auditorium tamer. With the seventeenth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thou sixteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select
Speaker 1: Keanu Neil. Here we go defensive back, and I think
Speaker 1: for the Falcons, you know again these two, the player
Speaker 1: and the team have been linked in recent days. You
Speaker 1: thought maybe second round, but you know what, the Falcons
Speaker 1: they didn't want to wait. They get their safety, a
Speaker 1: guy that can maybe be that next William Moore for
Speaker 1: this team. Uh come up and hit you. But again,
Speaker 1: he tested really well. Has the athleticis in the hold
Speaker 1: up and coverage as well. So, uh, the Falcons really
Speaker 1: needed a playmaker on defense and I think you know
Speaker 1: they believe they have that guy here. Yeah. And this
Speaker 1: this kid though, is like I said, he plays angry.
Speaker 1: I mean he'll miss a play and then the next
Speaker 1: three plays he is trying to hurt somebody. So and
Speaker 1: his teammates get around him and trying career and he's
Speaker 1: just pushing guys away, like so, uh, Keyan O'Neil will
Speaker 1: go to the Atlanta Falcons here we talked about that.
Speaker 1: I am surprised, you know, to see a Keyan O'Neill
Speaker 1: go ahead of a Darren Lee or you know some
Speaker 1: of these other guys. Um, it's it's really a fascinating
Speaker 1: to see Neil go this high end. But it's it's
Speaker 1: it's preference at a position that's becoming more and more
Speaker 1: important in the NFL and today's NFL. You need to
Speaker 1: be able to have a versatile safety. You know, we
Speaker 1: saw what Byron Jones did last year for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You need guys like that that can cover tight ends,
Speaker 1: that can you know, play single high, that can move
Speaker 1: up in the box. And I think the Falcons thing
Speaker 1: Neil is that guy that can do a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything for you at safety. Okay, now it looks
Speaker 1: like the Indianapolis Colts are on the clock. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about team needs center and in guard, inside linebacker, and
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Potentially as a rusher. We've seen before. I
Speaker 1: think this time last year, didn't the Lions I mean
Speaker 1: it was I'm wrong about this. They took a center.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I took Laken Tomlins and the guard. Oh,
Speaker 1: they took guard. So yeah, I mean, is this is
Speaker 1: the first spot I think we could see Ryan Kelly.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, yeah, Travis Frederick syndrome. Yeah, how about
Speaker 1: you mean because we're at the end of the run.
Speaker 1: We've talked about the eighteen name run, potentially this could
Speaker 1: be one of those things where we really as a group,
Speaker 1: I think we really really do like Kelly, you know,
Speaker 1: as that guy. If you're gonna if if if their
Speaker 1: need number one need is and you're in the middle
Speaker 1: of that draft and it's center, this this pick makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. If in fact it
Speaker 1: is Kelly. Cowboys got killed for taking Frederick at thirty one,
Speaker 1: which ironically enough, they were at eighteen or originally in
Speaker 1: that draft. Yeah. But I mean, for all the for
Speaker 1: as much as people want to dog the position, I
Speaker 1: think Travis Frederick has totally proven why like what that's
Speaker 1: worth and why it's something you should consider. I would
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. If the guy
Speaker 1: is what they think he can be. Just taking a
Speaker 1: peek back over the shoulder, a lot of movement in
Speaker 1: the world. Jerry Junior is Jason Garrett next to the board.
Speaker 1: The board they're looking at is the board of the
Speaker 1: actual draft. It's not any board of yeah, of where
Speaker 1: they're those the yeast questions about that. They their their
Speaker 1: board with their prospects is below the camera right you're
Speaker 1: to the Yeah, their person, their board, the two boards,
Speaker 1: the stack and the buy round is to the right
Speaker 1: of the screen where Garrett and Jerry Junior and Steven
Speaker 1: Jones and Jerry when they when they uncover, you probably
Speaker 1: see over on the left a list of Yeah. And
Speaker 1: that's just what has actually happened. There's no secret information. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's the actual draft. That's from what's from pick
Speaker 1: one to pick two fifty three is what they're standing
Speaker 1: in front of right now. So if they're gonna be
Speaker 1: a maybe a tradeback situation we've talked about my buddy
Speaker 1: Mike mcagnet, he's coming up there at twenty would be
Speaker 1: you know, got a lot about that Jets pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked a lot about that Jets pick. So you know,
Speaker 1: we could maybe that's a spot where they would get
Speaker 1: back in or could they wait like we talked about,
Speaker 1: and wait to the back end of that draft and
Speaker 1: one of those picks like we were talking about as well,
Speaker 1: the run of Seattle, Green Bay, Kansas City, all teams
Speaker 1: that will move. Okay, the pick is in for the Colts.
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner, absolutely all right, Roger Goodell has the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts here at eighteen. With the eighteenth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Ryan Kelly.
Speaker 1: Here we go center Alabama. If you're the Colts, you
Speaker 1: have to protect Andrew Luck. Yeah, you know he's been
Speaker 1: getting beat up and the tackles are off the board.
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly makes sense here. Yeah, he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to stabilize the interior of your offensive line. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is just a no nonsense type of player, A smart,
Speaker 1: a very natural center. I don't think he has, you know,
Speaker 1: the versatility to play guard. I think he's just he's
Speaker 1: a He's a smash mouth center. He's going to hitch you.
Speaker 1: He understands balance and leverage. So I really like what
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly brings to the field. Dave say something nice
Speaker 1: about an Alabama man. I don't want to, but it
Speaker 1: just reminds me of the Zeke pick. And like I
Speaker 1: said a minute ago, the Frederick pick is I just oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's awfully soon to draft a center. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know about a running back that I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's the guy and he's gonna help your team,
Speaker 1: just take him. Yeah, and I don't care. We've seen
Speaker 1: the important don't care quote J Cutler. Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: keep the pocket clean. Ideally, he's gonna give Luck more time.
Speaker 1: That dude has gotten killed the last two years. He
Speaker 1: didn't finish the year last year. Right, Yes, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not a premium position. Well, I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 1: if you don't have one, good luck with all that.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck has proven that, given time to work, he
Speaker 1: can drag a pretty sorry team to the AFC title game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did it two years ago. I'll see what I
Speaker 1: like about Ryan Kelly. He plays on his feet and
Speaker 1: and you know it, centers. You evaluate centers and their
Speaker 1: ability to snatch positions. And I'm talking about like that
Speaker 1: one technique playing inside shoulder or playing the three on
Speaker 1: the outside shoulder. If you get a center that can
Speaker 1: snatch a three technique on the run, like like Ryan
Speaker 1: Kelly can do you need to draft that guy in
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts got him a guy that can can
Speaker 1: in fact do that. He does a great job of
Speaker 1: playing on his feet. And Dane was talking about the
Speaker 1: balance and things like that as well. Back to that point,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is an athletic guy. I like his odds
Speaker 1: of being able to get away from outside rushers who
Speaker 1: are coming around, you know, stepping up. If he and
Speaker 1: if you've got a clean pocket, he can make that work.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great and yeah, maybe eighteen is
Speaker 1: too soon for a center, but if it's going to
Speaker 1: make that much of a difference, who cares. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: at the nineteenth pick. It belongs to the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: They are on the clock, followed by the New York
Speaker 1: Jets and then again the Washington Redskins. So, by the way,
Speaker 1: Dane pour one out for me on my list of
Speaker 1: thirty one, I was just cruising Neil and Kelly both
Speaker 1: I didn't have them. Yeah, are you in that? Are
Speaker 1: you in the pool? I'm not in the pool. I
Speaker 1: just felt like doing it to see how I would do.
Speaker 1: I was fifteen for fifty is your number thirty? First
Speaker 1: player in your pool. I had Vernon Butler as the
Speaker 1: last guy that I put on the list. What about this,
Speaker 1: This isn't it's it's not an order, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have it picked by pick. But okay, I see,
Speaker 1: but Butler was the last guy that I wrote down
Speaker 1: that I thought would be a first round pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: another one. At this point, I'm starting to wonder if
Speaker 1: Billings will be there. I put him on the list too.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's a team that really they sent the army down
Speaker 1: there to work him out. Absolutely. Okay, Well, the Bills
Speaker 1: a three forty five left before they have to hand
Speaker 1: this card in. Uh, it looks like that the clock
Speaker 1: has stopped for them, so that means they pick is in. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills and where they can go,
Speaker 1: uh you know in there. Uh let me give you
Speaker 1: their team needs and you guys can kind of uh
Speaker 1: pontificate outside linebackers, some rushers, inside linebacker, quarterback, inside defensive line. Uh,
Speaker 1: could you you know, with some time of the Alabama guys,
Speaker 1: you know, interior defensive line, then you know, help with
Speaker 1: a Shan Robinson, Jarren Reid or two possibilities there. We've
Speaker 1: mentioned Darren Lee as a player that is still available
Speaker 1: and that could help a club. Uh, you know, Rex, Ryan,
Speaker 1: he wants to get more guys for his scheme, his defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Bill's defense really kind of let a
Speaker 1: lot of people down last year. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are expecting big things. Sure, Rex wants to get his
Speaker 1: guys on that defense, and so he has a chance
Speaker 1: to do that with this pick. Someone that could be
Speaker 1: a playmaker. A couple options that we just mentioned will
Speaker 1: be available, so and this ring it out there, but
Speaker 1: packs the Lynch is still available too. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 1: Fascinating It's funny and I always think of of Ryan
Speaker 1: and coaches and you know his love affair. Well, he's
Speaker 1: got a son. They have a sound that plays at clip.
Speaker 1: We talked about Jack Lawson and Jack Lawson still I've
Speaker 1: had him between twelve and fifteen. We're now at nineteen.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about defensive help. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: for the I've kind of talked about this in the
Speaker 1: last few weeks that I don't think that the NFL
Speaker 1: loves shack Lass as much as maybe we did. I
Speaker 1: thought eighteen would be the earliest he could go, And
Speaker 1: you saw eighteen eighteen Atlanta. I thought would be to me,
Speaker 1: he was a top twelve guy on my board, right,
Speaker 1: But I think just talking to people around the NFL,
Speaker 1: you got the sense that he was not going to
Speaker 1: go that high. Maybe eighteen would be the earliest. And
Speaker 1: here we are at nineteen. You know he would he
Speaker 1: would fit that defense with what Rex wants to do. Well,
Speaker 1: it's uh. I thought he was going to be more
Speaker 1: like a twelve. I thought he And then are the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle rankings. I thought we're somewhere in that twelve
Speaker 1: to fifteen range. Rankins went number twelve to New Orleans,
Speaker 1: a really nice pick on their part. Just to recap
Speaker 1: though the last several picks U Ryan Kelly, Well, let's
Speaker 1: go the commissioner. The commissioners go into the podium. So
Speaker 1: let's see if we can get that potted up right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be in position
Speaker 1: to do that right now, but we'll see. Here's the
Speaker 1: Bills selection and the commissioners talking about it. Is the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills select. Very good? Shacked laws about that now
Speaker 1: we talked about we mentioned shack with the Saints, Yeah
Speaker 1: we did. And next, Ryan is the epito. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a three or four guy. What are they gonna
Speaker 1: do with this guy? I think that he's gonna I
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna play. He's two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Dane? Probably six, he's like
Speaker 1: sixty three two seventy, you know, May I don't know
Speaker 1: if they he looks like a guy that they might.
Speaker 1: Maybe you see him play a little bit, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: do they try him at the five technique? He actually
Speaker 1: on the ground, yeah, Clemson right, you know, and teams
Speaker 1: did work him out standing up. But I agree that
Speaker 1: he is best with his hand on the in the dirt.
Speaker 1: Give a chance to you know, use that power, use
Speaker 1: those ball instincts. It's just a very natural player at
Speaker 1: the position. So I am eager to see how they
Speaker 1: will use him in that scheme. But you know, if
Speaker 1: you have a chance to get a pass rusher, go
Speaker 1: and get him. And if Rex Ryan is a defensive
Speaker 1: genius that we all think that he's brother Rob's with him.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna try and figure out how to use him. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson is the pick. I thought, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: when I start I start playing connect the dots now
Speaker 1: because I'm running out of names. That maybe, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, your list is getting smaller. And then and then,
Speaker 1: but I was sitting there thinking, Okay, who could Rob
Speaker 1: Ryan or Rex Ryan look at? And he has some
Speaker 1: familiarity with the Clemson program. He understands those guys and
Speaker 1: and Shack Lawson makes a lot of a sense for
Speaker 1: the fact that they have an understanding of what he
Speaker 1: is is as a football player. Nothing against Kevin Dodds teammate,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm just I'm glad to see I
Speaker 1: haven't gone crazy. So many people were telling me Kevin
Speaker 1: Dodd he's gonna go ahead of Shack Lawson. Shack Lawson
Speaker 1: is clearly the better pass rusher from Clemson any gay.
Speaker 1: Nothing against Kevin Dodd. I'm just glad to see I
Speaker 1: haven't gone crazy, and that Shack Lawson is the first
Speaker 1: Clemson defensive end off the board. Okay, Well, now the
Speaker 1: New York Jets, and I was gonna say, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do my knowing thing where I keep y'all and
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys instead of uh, this is a
Speaker 1: big pick for the Cowboys interest in getting a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at number twenty. Yeah, I mean this is a prime
Speaker 1: I know, I think people have said, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they're not interested in doing that in the first round.
Speaker 1: They still have Geno Smith, they still have things to
Speaker 1: work out with Ryan Fitzpatrick. But this has long been
Speaker 1: a candidate to take a quarterback. And honestly, if they don't,
Speaker 1: where's the next one coming? You know, Arizona? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: thing about Let me ask you this though, and let
Speaker 1: me and you know, I totally agree with you on
Speaker 1: the quarterback thing. I wonder I'm just thinking about them
Speaker 1: with the offensive line situation and you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Spriggs. You know, could this be the that that Okay,
Speaker 1: the tackle that's and again I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at They had the head, they head, the guy retired.
Speaker 1: They traded for Ryan Clay, but Clady has not been
Speaker 1: reliable exactly. I mean that's yeah, exactly. So maybe I
Speaker 1: know that I'm throwing that out there, but I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying about quarterback too. I totally what we've
Speaker 1: been saying about these tackles. If you don't get them early,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get them. So, you know, if if
Speaker 1: the Jets have an they're aye on a tackle here.
Speaker 1: I think that's certainly possible. We've seen four come off
Speaker 1: the board already. Yeah, I do think before the end
Speaker 1: of the first round, my guess is we'll see Jermada
Speaker 1: Fetti and Jason Spriggs come off the board just because
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that run on tackle. So I think
Speaker 1: that's certainly a consideration here for the Jets. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: fine with that. I mean again, I'm thinking, how what
Speaker 1: which these teams are candidates. If the Jets don't do
Speaker 1: it for a quarterback or a quarterback, you could talk
Speaker 1: me into Pittsburgh doing it. Big Ben's an old guy
Speaker 1: and a lot of hits exactly. Yeah, Pittsburgh could do it.
Speaker 1: You could talk me into Arizona might be the Arizona
Speaker 1: and Divers probably the last two. If it gets to Arizona,
Speaker 1: that's worth that trade to me, the one that we've
Speaker 1: talked about. I mean, if if if Paxton Lynch is
Speaker 1: on the board when Arizona picks, there's a good old
Speaker 1: mister mcack. Yeah, it's Mike mccagnandah my buddy Mike mccagney
Speaker 1: who I worked with in NFL Europe in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: outstanding guy, outstanding general manager, he said, A nice job
Speaker 1: and the hardest worker he is. He is a grinder
Speaker 1: and so happy that he's now getting an opportunity to
Speaker 1: run a team. This will be a second year with
Speaker 1: the Jets. So let's see what direction to Jets fans
Speaker 1: have made the trip to Chicago. Looks like no their
Speaker 1: draft party, so that would be there at their headquarters there.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jets fans. It feels weird not having
Speaker 1: them in the audience. I love the Jets fans are
Speaker 1: in the audience. Guy, I love that. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's how I grew up as watching Jets fans boo
Speaker 1: their pick at Radio City. You know, it feels weird
Speaker 1: not to have them. Well, we got it'll be almost
Speaker 1: inside three minutes. Looked like everybody was using the phone
Speaker 1: right there to uh to uh make these to make
Speaker 1: the selections. So uh, we've we've talked about the possibilities
Speaker 1: offensive line, We've talked about quarterback. We talked about it again.
Speaker 1: Mike told me if if Jerry and Stephen Jones wanted
Speaker 1: this pick, you know, come on up. You know it'd
Speaker 1: be happy to to talk to him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wanted to collect some picks. There was some rumored speculation
Speaker 1: that maybe he was trying to get up in the
Speaker 1: draft to take one of these quarterbacks early. It didn't
Speaker 1: look he materialized. In talking to him as well, he
Speaker 1: said about the run again, the eighteen name run is
Speaker 1: about end of it right here for him. So let's
Speaker 1: see what in fact happens. It looks like that. Well,
Speaker 1: they're moving around, moving camera angles like I thought maybe
Speaker 1: the commissioner was on his way. But I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my best available on my board. Miles Jack number one,
Speaker 1: Laquon Treadwell number two, Darren Lee number three. So three
Speaker 1: players that I guess I'm not shocked that they're not
Speaker 1: off the board. But those are three good players that
Speaker 1: you know, playoff teams. Guy, A team's picking in the twenties,
Speaker 1: have a chance to go get better. Now, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's a you got number one Miles Jack and Miles
Speaker 1: Jack makes a little more sense because of the knee issue.
Speaker 1: I get right down there. But I mean, you look,
Speaker 1: I mean, Darren Lee is a guy. How about your boy,
Speaker 1: Noah Spense, Yeah, that would be I He's I've got
Speaker 1: my one and my five available. If you really think
Speaker 1: about that team, a team with like playoff aspirations is
Speaker 1: going to have a shot at Noah Spense, Which that's scary,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating because again another one of these wild cards.
Speaker 1: The three main wild cards to me, Miles jack Bees
Speaker 1: an injury, Noah Spense because of the character, and then
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch because there are it is such a wide
Speaker 1: range of opinions on Paxton and he's clearly talented, but
Speaker 1: what's his value in the draft. And so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really interesting over these last twelve picks to see
Speaker 1: where where or if Paxson Lynch goes well. A lot
Speaker 1: of times though they're teams that you know, those playoff
Speaker 1: teams are good. They just sit there and wait and
Speaker 1: patiently have about two to three turkey sandwiches, a couple
Speaker 1: of diet cokes or a diet pepsi in the case
Speaker 1: in this building, and then and then you look at
Speaker 1: the board and you just and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, but Jaren Reid's still there, Reggie Ragland, William Jackson,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of talented Josh Doson and
Speaker 1: we're about to probably see our run on wide receiver
Speaker 1: here coming up. Uh, you know, with the Texans, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and the Bengals all candids to take a receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting note from from Adam Schefter, And I mean we've
Speaker 1: heard about this. Shack Lawson will probably need surgery on
Speaker 1: his shoulder, right. Schefter says it'll sideline him four to
Speaker 1: six months, but he can probably wait until after his
Speaker 1: rookie season to have it. And that's been the debate
Speaker 1: because you know, Lawson has put off the surgery, put
Speaker 1: off the surgery, and so that's kind of been If
Speaker 1: he had had it right after the National title game,
Speaker 1: he'd be fine. Yeah, yeah, and he decided not to.
Speaker 1: He decided, well and you wonder what if Clempson doesn't
Speaker 1: go to the national title game, does he maybe decide
Speaker 1: and just pull the trigger? But yeah, you know, because
Speaker 1: he he you know, went straight from the National title
Speaker 1: game to combine prep and so, uh, it really interesting
Speaker 1: dynamic with his shoulder and how that will play out here.
Speaker 1: You know, can't he get through the whole season, you know,
Speaker 1: without without reaggravating and being an issue for him as
Speaker 1: a rookie. All right, Well, it looks like that the
Speaker 1: Jets pick is in. Uh and that would put Washington
Speaker 1: on the clock behind them. We were talking about the
Speaker 1: run potentially for some wide receivers. I know for a
Speaker 1: fact if you talk about Houston Minnesota. I was at
Speaker 1: the TCU Pro Day and Mike Zimmer was there to
Speaker 1: see Josh Dockson Commissioner Goodell making his way to the podium.
Speaker 1: And this will be the pick from the New York
Speaker 1: Jets at number twenty, With the twentieth pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the New York Jets
Speaker 1: select Darren Lee. Yeah, we just talked about him and
Speaker 1: that there's the fifth Buckeye off the board in the
Speaker 1: top twenty. For Darren Lee. You're getting a player who
Speaker 1: three years ago at this time was one hundred ninety
Speaker 1: five pound quarterback in high school, a player that Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer actually had to be convinced to give him an
Speaker 1: offer because they didn't know what to do with him.
Speaker 1: What position would he play, where would he fit? You know?
Speaker 1: He goes to Ohio, played a little safety, played a
Speaker 1: little corner as a red shirt, and then he at linebacker,
Speaker 1: took over for Ryan Shazier last season at that walkout
Speaker 1: linebacker role and really blossomed and down those stretches. Freshman
Speaker 1: season in the in the playoffs against Alabama, against against Oregon,
Speaker 1: he was really a playmaker on that team, that Ohio
Speaker 1: State national title team. And then as a as a
Speaker 1: retro sophomore this past season, he was dynamic as well.
Speaker 1: So you know, he might not be the prototype in
Speaker 1: terms of size for the a linebacker, but he could
Speaker 1: do so many different things in terms of covering, in
Speaker 1: terms of range. He's that new age linebacker, a guy
Speaker 1: that can you be that running hit. Everything you're saying
Speaker 1: makes it very obvious why Todd Bowles wanted this guy. No,
Speaker 1: but you think about what he's I mean, Dion Buchanan, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew. Right, who's the other guy? I'm not thinking
Speaker 1: of the one that they put the tag on this year.
Speaker 1: I think, um, anybody for the Tony Jefferson is that
Speaker 1: I have that right? The Arizona guy safe he put
Speaker 1: the tag on. Point being is that they put a
Speaker 1: tender on him, is what they did. That's what I'm thinking. Regardless,
Speaker 1: Bowls loves those type of guys. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: linebacker who can rush the passer. He could probably play
Speaker 1: safety or something that they wanted to do. And that's
Speaker 1: and Top Bowls is so good with those types of guys.
Speaker 1: What the Cardinals have done with my boy the honey
Speaker 1: Badger is amazing. And obviously it's two different positions, clearly,
Speaker 1: but he loves those versatile kind of guys who don't
Speaker 1: really fit a role and not I that that sounds
Speaker 1: very fun to me if I'm in New York ches. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one thing, Darren Lee is a very confusing player
Speaker 1: to me, and I agree with everything you guys have said.
Speaker 1: You don't like him. I don't see a finisher all
Speaker 1: the time. I worry about him a little bit. I
Speaker 1: see a guy that runs like a son of a gun,
Speaker 1: I get it. I see him running for the back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see a guy that's that can do all those things.
Speaker 1: I did see him sometimes though, when the hole miss
Speaker 1: some tackles. I did see him on the blitz, miss
Speaker 1: some guys, getting the quarterbacks on the ground, guys shake loose.
Speaker 1: I've seen him miss tackles in space as well. He
Speaker 1: can run, and I think that the I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit worried about him in the physical side of the game.
Speaker 1: I'm worried when he has to play toad to toad
Speaker 1: with somebody. Can he do that? How well? And you're
Speaker 1: right though, Todd Bolis likes that kind of player. You
Speaker 1: look at what he's done in Arizona. You looked at
Speaker 1: what they've done with the Jets. It's the new age
Speaker 1: of defense in the NFL. Well, you know, but I
Speaker 1: I just like I said, I worry. I worry about him.
Speaker 1: I worry about him a little bit. Okay, is uh
Speaker 1: the the we got the Washington Redskins. We got the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins are on the clock currently? Let's see who
Speaker 1: is on the Uh that would be Let's see did
Speaker 1: Houston move up? They move up one spot? I yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time thinking Houston. Well, Houston might
Speaker 1: be on the clock. Let's just see Houston is picking next.
Speaker 1: Let's see if in fact, who who is on the
Speaker 1: clock with this selection? Like I say, this will be this,
Speaker 1: this will be the timeline. Can help me? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: twenty first. This will be the twenty first pick. This
Speaker 1: would be the Redskins. Let's see where who flips? Oh?
Speaker 1: The Texans are now all right, so they just flopped
Speaker 1: they flop spots here, they just flop spots or so
Speaker 1: so what Okay, so Houston has long been mocked for
Speaker 1: a receiver. I mean, they're one of those teams where
Speaker 1: the pick never changes, it's always a receiver. I don't
Speaker 1: get well, they got spooped. They got spooped about another
Speaker 1: team jumping up to get a receiver. Maybe, so they
Speaker 1: have their eyes on a certain receiver here, whether it's
Speaker 1: it's Will Fuller Laquon Treadwell. I think that they had
Speaker 1: their eye on a certain receiver. They did not want
Speaker 1: to risk it. They probably gave up a fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth round pick to move up one spot and secure them.
Speaker 1: Do you think they were worried about Washington trading with
Speaker 1: somebody else, That's what I'm saying, Well that I have
Speaker 1: to think that because Washington doesn't strike me as a
Speaker 1: team that's going to draft the receiver. No, And well,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think you're right. I miss. I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of thinking about, well, let's let's take a
Speaker 1: look at our handy dandy. Yeah, Dave's got our charts
Speaker 1: working off here, inside linebacker, corner and safety. So, Dave,
Speaker 1: you make a great point there, Washington looking at inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: corner and safe and honestly, you look at Washington's needs
Speaker 1: defensive line. A lot of people talking about them taking
Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, there's there's some dudes they're worth liking,
Speaker 1: both both of the Bama dudes. They're still there. Um, well, Houston,
Speaker 1: we got Houston. We think is a receiver, right, we
Speaker 1: think Houston is Houston's definitely going receiver here. That's been
Speaker 1: the speculation. I mean, you're always you're always bound for
Speaker 1: a surprise. Hey, maybe Houston's thinking they're lucky stars that
Speaker 1: Laquon Treadwell fell all the way to twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like to me, Houston says here looking to
Speaker 1: add a legitimate second receiver that can stretch the field
Speaker 1: in that point, the little fuller. Yeah. Um, but again
Speaker 1: I think they are looking for a specific wide receiver here.
Speaker 1: You know, they weren't okay. You know, if if someone
Speaker 1: traded up to twenty one or Washington State at twenty
Speaker 1: one and took you know, a certain receiver, they weren't
Speaker 1: okay with just taking another receiver. They wanted a specific one.
Speaker 1: They only had to give a six round pick next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not this year. So we'll talk, okay, talk me through
Speaker 1: then if we if we think it's your receiver taught
Speaker 1: me through in their team needs. We just said, this
Speaker 1: team needs to take the top off a defense. And
Speaker 1: that's what tell me about will full I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a player that secondaries have to worry about anytime he's
Speaker 1: on the field. He has that secondary burst down the
Speaker 1: field that most corners they just don't have an answer
Speaker 1: for that. There's nothing they can do to match that speed,
Speaker 1: that secondary burst. And there are some questions about will
Speaker 1: Fuller and his ball skills and his reliability body catch,
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, he is a quarter in chance. I
Speaker 1: mean he has smaller hands um and that makes some place.
Speaker 1: Though Son makes some place. Notre Dame Houston went and
Speaker 1: they gave a lot of money to brock Osweiler. Right,
Speaker 1: a huge arm. You know, they need to let that
Speaker 1: Ferrari out of the garage. Let him, you know, stretch
Speaker 1: out that arm, throw some deep shots. DeAndre Hopkins is
Speaker 1: a legitimate number one, you know, Canny be a Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you like Fuller is a two?
Speaker 1: I think he can be. Yeah, I mean I know
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it on you there, but I worry out
Speaker 1: of him as an underneath receiver, right, I don't see
Speaker 1: him running every single route. Again that he will have
Speaker 1: some focus issues, drop some easy throws, but the way
Speaker 1: he can strutch the field, the way defenses have to
Speaker 1: account for him on every single play, he's going to
Speaker 1: open things up for the rest of the offense. So
Speaker 1: I understand the pick. I don't have him as highly
Speaker 1: rated as as I meant Treadwill Dotson, Michael Thomas in
Speaker 1: Those are guys. I mean, I think it's but again
Speaker 1: back to they want speed, a certain type of receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right about this. Okay, commissioner's making the walk.
Speaker 1: Let's get to him. The Washington Brandskins have traded the
Speaker 1: twenty first pick to the Houston Texans. We're the twenty
Speaker 1: first pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans select Will Fuller. That makes sense. They
Speaker 1: want a guy, they want speed, They want a guy
Speaker 1: that you know, defenses have to worry about, and that's
Speaker 1: going to help. The happiest person right now might be
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, hey, because there is someone that defenses have
Speaker 1: to worry about opposite him, and Lamar Miller's pretty pumped
Speaker 1: too well. That offense. You look at that offense, Brock
Speaker 1: Osweiler has stepped into quite an put imposing. We get
Speaker 1: to see these guys in the preseason. How about that.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's gonna be pretty happy with that offense. Is
Speaker 1: is different toys he can play with with with Will
Speaker 1: Fuller and Lamar Miller Brock Osweiler, We'll see how he
Speaker 1: does as a full time starter, but you know he
Speaker 1: will Fuller again the speed what he can do as
Speaker 1: a deep threat. Have some questions about him as an
Speaker 1: underneath receiver, but there is no questioning his ability to
Speaker 1: take the top off a defense. All Right, homies, I'm
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Speaker 1: called tenty seven seven NFC Boys Today. This is continuing
Speaker 1: coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com. We're back here at the eighty first NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, Brian brought us. David Hellman has been with us.
Speaker 1: He's gone out to do some Dallas Cowboys dot Com duty.
Speaker 1: Keke Garrison doing a great job with the executive producing tonight,
Speaker 1: really doing a lot of things on the fly. We
Speaker 1: got to chance to visit with Zeke Elliott, Ezekiel a
Speaker 1: little bit. Gary Brown came in gave us some nice
Speaker 1: little some insight there about the particular players. So if
Speaker 1: we can recap the draft, we'll go back to the
Speaker 1: last five picks or so. Will Fuller goes to the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Darren Lee to the New York Jets Shack
Speaker 1: Lawson to the Buffalo Bills at nineteen, Ryan Kelly to
Speaker 1: the Inneapolis Colts at eighteen, and Kean O'Neil, the safety
Speaker 1: from Florida, goes to Atlanta Falcons at seventeen. The Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins are currently on the clock. That says that the
Speaker 1: pick is in. We really haven't talked much about uh
Speaker 1: with the Redskins. Maybe we said get some defense, some
Speaker 1: type of help. Scott McLuhan though, you know, I when
Speaker 1: Scotty's another guy worked with in Green Bay and really
Speaker 1: proud to have won a Super Bowl ring with him
Speaker 1: when he was selected with When he got the job
Speaker 1: with the with the Redskins, you know, in the division,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh man, he's gonna get better players. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see the days anymore of of
Speaker 1: the crazy picks that they've made. I think that he's
Speaker 1: gonna go out and draft some really good, solid football players.
Speaker 1: So the Redskins are team that the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: have to draft well to match, because I think the
Speaker 1: Redskins are gonna do just the same. So it's probably
Speaker 1: just made a lot of folks very mad and Dallas
Speaker 1: and Colboy Nation. But it's the truth. I believe that
Speaker 1: about Scott mcluin. I think he's really good at what
Speaker 1: he does. No he is. And you know we talked
Speaker 1: about defense offense. You know they could also go in
Speaker 1: that direction. They could use another playmaker. Yeah, they could. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know they need help on certain parts of the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Could we see another receiver? We talked about
Speaker 1: the run of receivers here right, you know, could we
Speaker 1: see another one? Is that? Is that a possibility? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I I you know that's uh. With we're we're towards
Speaker 1: the end of the run with potential first round players.
Speaker 1: I do on my board have guys like Treadwill Dotson,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas was a guy we've talked about. Spence. Could
Speaker 1: could Scott mcluin. He came from the UH to Seattle,
Speaker 1: you know that whole thing where they they've taken some
Speaker 1: chances on some guys. Could they take a chance on
Speaker 1: a Noah's Spence here? Uh? Would the talent be too
Speaker 1: much for them? The pass? Uh? You know we've got
Speaker 1: the Alabama kids. You know, Reid is still on the board,
Speaker 1: Robinson still on the board, Ragling Jack. You know there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of names that we could, uh that we
Speaker 1: could explore here with the with the Washington Redskins. So
Speaker 1: they have looks like that the pick is in. But
Speaker 1: let's see if they haven't moved to the to the podium. Um,
Speaker 1: are you surprised though that a guy like Treadwell is
Speaker 1: it is? It have to do something. Let's stop there
Speaker 1: that the commissioner's making his way to the podium, and
Speaker 1: we got it for you right here. Let's see if
Speaker 1: one comes off the board right here, with the twenty
Speaker 1: second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins select Josh Dockson. There you go as the receiver.
Speaker 1: There's a playmaker, Josh Dockson. I thought, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about the Redskins getting better with Josh Norman, a
Speaker 1: playmaker on defense, and now they got a playmaker on
Speaker 1: all offense. And you look at what the Redskins already
Speaker 1: have at receiver with Pierre Garsona and DeShawn Jackson. H
Speaker 1: Josh Dawson, you know, brings a little bit of it,
Speaker 1: brings youth to the wide receiver position and brings a
Speaker 1: guy that could uh you know, step up into uh
Speaker 1: you know won't be pressed in action from day one
Speaker 1: in terms of being that number one guy. He can
Speaker 1: kind of, uh you know, work his way through. And
Speaker 1: I like the pick for the Redskins, and you know
Speaker 1: it's uh could uh you know the Cowboys. You know
Speaker 1: who's gonna be covering this guy. Yeah, that's the thing
Speaker 1: about it. He was U, I have Treadwill at one,
Speaker 1: Dotson is two. So yeah, I mean he was very
Speaker 1: impressive to watch play at TCU. Very impressive on the workout. Hey,
Speaker 1: can't while we have a shot here. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we're good. We got the Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you have some Twitter questions in front of you
Speaker 1: or anything like that? Can't once you once you fire
Speaker 1: some Twitter questions to us and about while maybe we'll
Speaker 1: answer a few of them here while the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: on the clock. So go ahead there. Speaking of Treadwill
Speaker 1: Andrew says, do you think Dallas will go offense again
Speaker 1: if Lakwan Treadwell falls to them? His choice would be
Speaker 1: Noah Spencer, Fayroe Cooper later on, I'm not passing on
Speaker 1: Lakwan Treadwell. Yeah, I mean, if he falls, do you
Speaker 1: think Treadwell has fallen off like speed teams speed speed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're obsessed with the with with speed, and he's
Speaker 1: not going to be a guy that's going to create
Speaker 1: on his own. But again when you watch him on film,
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to because that's not his game. Will
Speaker 1: Fuller is not a better football player than Treadwall. No,
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. And the fact that Fuller runs
Speaker 1: faster is why he got picked right. And to me,
Speaker 1: the top three receivers are Treadwell, Dockson, and Coleman. And
Speaker 1: you could potentially sell me Coleman and Doxon because they
Speaker 1: are dynamic football players. But yeah, I agree with you
Speaker 1: on Fuller. And so there's there's a playoff team here
Speaker 1: in the twenties, maybe Minnesota right now, he's going to
Speaker 1: get a terrific player with Treadwell. I absolutely believe you're right.
Speaker 1: And and Dodson was a guy, like I said, Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer worked him out at General manager Rick Spielman was
Speaker 1: there as well, and they worked out Dotson. So they
Speaker 1: probably feel like that they just had a guy go
Speaker 1: right off their board, right in front of him. So
Speaker 1: what else you got there? Kimp? Has Miles Jack gone yet? No,
Speaker 1: he has not. Jason wants to know, as your head
Speaker 1: ready to explode, Joy to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: get back in for Miles Jack. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Miles Jack with the knee. I don't. I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like that, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like that they're gonna They're gonna do anything with Josh.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be with with Miles Jack. And I hate
Speaker 1: to say that because I thought that Miles Jack would
Speaker 1: have been taken by now, and I thought that, you
Speaker 1: know that someone and if he could play, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a damn good player for somebody. But I think
Speaker 1: this whole medical thing is scared off a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: And I just don't see Dallas the fact that they
Speaker 1: took Zeke at at at four. I see them at
Speaker 1: thirty four tomorrows going back to defense unless they jump
Speaker 1: back in. I'm looking at right now Warream Camp. There
Speaker 1: seems to be no activity. Yeah, we've got a press
Speaker 1: conference coming up at the ten thirty Central about, but
Speaker 1: it looks like no discussions going on there. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna get back in this thing.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I think with Miles Jack that the
Speaker 1: medical stuff even thirty four is just too much to ask.
Speaker 1: Josh wants to know, is it time to package Leary
Speaker 1: and get back into this round? Is this the time
Speaker 1: you would think that would be done. Well, there's another
Speaker 1: guy that people look at with knee knee concerns coming out,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons why he wasn't drafted.
Speaker 1: It's a trade piece, but yeah, you know, it's I
Speaker 1: don't think he's looked at as as valuable, as valuable
Speaker 1: as maybe a second round pick or anything like that.
Speaker 1: You know, he would certainly sweeten a deal, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure he's going to be that much of a factors.
Speaker 1: He did sign his tender today. Let's see, you know,
Speaker 1: let's see Kansas City is a team that could use
Speaker 1: could use a guard there at twenty eight. Let's check
Speaker 1: and see what the Green Bay Packers potentially could uh
Speaker 1: their situation. Guard tackle could be a possibility there. They've
Speaker 1: seen him play quite a bit. Let's focus in on
Speaker 1: Seattle a little bit. You know, we're trying to find
Speaker 1: some teams here that could use a guard to let
Speaker 1: you back in the bottom of this round. Uh, Seattle,
Speaker 1: a guard would be you know that's that was a
Speaker 1: weakness in twenty fifteen. So Seattle at twenty six, if
Speaker 1: you can find a way to move it, you've moved it.
Speaker 1: Minnesota's on the clock. We've talked about receivers. Did you
Speaker 1: have Treadwell as your number one guy? And it's excuse me,
Speaker 1: can't because the picks in will go to the commissioner.
Speaker 1: But he's not he's not up yet at he's not
Speaker 1: up at the podium. I'm sorry about that, k't but
Speaker 1: just to talk about and we'll get back to Twitter questions.
Speaker 1: But I'm doing a little producer, but talk about though.
Speaker 1: Was he your best receiver on the on the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's the best receiver in this draft. Again,
Speaker 1: he's a four sixth athlete. He's not a speedster. That's
Speaker 1: not his game. But his ball skills, his catch radius,
Speaker 1: his physicality for a twenty year old, you see flashes
Speaker 1: of Dez Bryant with his game. He's not as dynamic.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have that type of athleticism, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: need it because of his ability to snatch the ball
Speaker 1: away from his body and just overpower corners. It won't
Speaker 1: be as easy and you know he plays so well
Speaker 1: in the air, but yeah, exactly, And that's what you know,
Speaker 1: if you can get receivers that that you know, one
Speaker 1: of the most important things that we just overlook at
Speaker 1: the receiver position is catching the ball and that's what
Speaker 1: he does. You know what he did this past year
Speaker 1: in the SEC for all miss to me best receiver
Speaker 1: in this draft. Okay, yeah, I just want to go
Speaker 1: on record with you there, just to make sure, Okay,
Speaker 1: can't what else we got on the some Twitter questions? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got some questions about pass rushers, wondering if we
Speaker 1: think Spence will make it that far and how far
Speaker 1: do you wait if you want to grab Spence? What
Speaker 1: about it, Dane? What about Spence? I mean, do we
Speaker 1: do we have a feeling that maybe this team might
Speaker 1: be a little gun shy And I'm sorry I used
Speaker 1: a bad phrase there, but a little uh, a little
Speaker 1: a little scared, right, that's about about hesitant about Spence.
Speaker 1: They've done a lot of research on him. I know
Speaker 1: that they went to Ohio State, they they worked with him,
Speaker 1: They talked to Urban Meyer, they talked to those coaches.
Speaker 1: You know, is is Noah Spence a guy that they
Speaker 1: feel like could be that dynamic edge rusher. I mean
Speaker 1: I do maybe they don't, right and well, and they
Speaker 1: just have to be comfortable with him as a person.
Speaker 1: And not every team came away impressed with Spence during
Speaker 1: the interview process, right, you know, I give Spence credit
Speaker 1: going to the FCS level, passing every drug test, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild his image. But again, you know, he
Speaker 1: came off maybe a little fake at times during these interviews.
Speaker 1: Not every team was wanted to see what, you know,
Speaker 1: what they were hoping to see. So I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a team by team basis here. And for Dallas,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really not sure where they feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: If he's there at thirty four, he might not be
Speaker 1: an option. So this might go back to the Randy
Speaker 1: Moss thing, back to day when you get a very
Speaker 1: talented player, but you're scared off by some things and
Speaker 1: you just don't feel comfortable. But okay, the Vikings have
Speaker 1: turned into pick the commissioner making his way to the podium.
Speaker 1: Eleve of offensive players, a lot of defensive players. Let's
Speaker 1: see how the Vikings breakfast tie of twenty three with
Speaker 1: the twenty third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings select the receiver. Vikings, I think just
Speaker 1: got the best receiver in the draft for Teddy Bridgewater. UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, he fits that offense really well. Stefan Digs,
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick last year, is really blossomed in
Speaker 1: that offense. And look, Teddy Bridgewater is not the most
Speaker 1: consistent deep ball thrower. That's not his game. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I think Laquon Treadwill is really going to help in
Speaker 1: the short and intermediate game. I love the fit. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, does it sting a little bit for LaQuan
Speaker 1: that he's the fourth receiver taking sure, probably he's a
Speaker 1: competitive guy, but I think this fit long term will
Speaker 1: be the best thing for him. Yeah, we'll hear the Vikings.
Speaker 1: You know, we've already know that. The running back situation,
Speaker 1: you were all over Teddy Bridgewater as far as one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks you felt like coming out. Looks
Speaker 1: like to me, though they made a step. They went
Speaker 1: from a seven and nine team eleven and five on
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They were a missfield goal away from going
Speaker 1: on and being a part of a you know, maybe
Speaker 1: making a run. This thing. That's a good football team.
Speaker 1: This kid he's from uh, you know, Chicago area, and
Speaker 1: so he's used to playing in cold you know, I
Speaker 1: know that makes a difference. Yeah, that makes it. You're
Speaker 1: in the NFC North and you're going to places like
Speaker 1: Chicago and Green Bay. Uh, you know, you have to
Speaker 1: be ready to play in some inclement uh settings. So
Speaker 1: I think he can handle that. Now he's looks like
Speaker 1: he's bringing his child up on the stage. So the
Speaker 1: Commissioner's gonna be very happy about that. Everybody, with all
Speaker 1: our Place sixty programs and stuff like that, to see
Speaker 1: you know, kids involved. I think that's great and in
Speaker 1: a wonderful moment for Treadwell right there to be pack.
Speaker 1: He's going to a very good football team and a
Speaker 1: team that the Cowboys. We'll see now here we go.
Speaker 1: We talk about guys back to back. Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: deal with dots and they're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 1: Treadwell as well, So we'll see. We talked about the
Speaker 1: run of wide receivers coming up, Yeah, we sure did,
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati's gonna be shut out. Yeah, you know, they
Speaker 1: don't even have a chance at one of these top
Speaker 1: four guys unless they like the Ohio State kid Michael Thomas. Sure,
Speaker 1: and that's something the Brown family. We all know what
Speaker 1: Paul Brown, he did work at Ohio States. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye on that. Ken't Garrison what you got for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Melvin on Twitter? Can the Cowboys afford to pass on
Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch if he's there at thirty four? Four? To sure?
Speaker 1: I mean if they don't like him, if they don't
Speaker 1: believe in him, yeah, then sure you pass. But I
Speaker 1: guess he's asking, is this the last good quarterback in
Speaker 1: this draft? Well? To me, I had him much higher
Speaker 1: and to me, I feel like that you can. You
Speaker 1: could definitely do something with him. You could work with him.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Cowboys might not think. We've talked
Speaker 1: about Connor Cook a bunch, we've talked about they brought
Speaker 1: seven guys in on their thirty visits. They've they've also
Speaker 1: ran Wade Wilson to go work out Brandon Allen. They
Speaker 1: might be more comfortable taking one of those guys instead
Speaker 1: of taking Paxson Lynch. There's some people that believe that
Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch will get out of this this draft. He
Speaker 1: could be there at thirty four, but you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: We've got Denver at the very end of this draft,
Speaker 1: so right, and I like Paxson Lynch. Again, my biggest
Speaker 1: worry with him is it just it's going to take
Speaker 1: time for him. He's he's so young in quarterback years,
Speaker 1: and I think that's I think that the biggest worry
Speaker 1: with teams right now is how long it's going to
Speaker 1: take him to be NFL ready and really see the field.
Speaker 1: So we could still and we still have what seven
Speaker 1: picks here yea in the first round. He still had
Speaker 1: a chance for him to go in the first round. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about the needs for the Cincinnai Bengals who
Speaker 1: are currently on the clock wide receiver, cornerback, and defensive end.
Speaker 1: Does anybody strike your fancy there, day Brook. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I brought up Michael Thomas just because of the fact
Speaker 1: that Ohio State Paul Brown the family, he was an
Speaker 1: Ohio State coach. It seems there always a lot of connections.
Speaker 1: Will go back to Dan Wilkerson back in the day,
Speaker 1: was a Cincinna, Ohio state kid that made it was
Speaker 1: a pick, a very high pick for the for the
Speaker 1: Cincinnai Bengals. I think on defense, you look, they have
Speaker 1: a few areas of need with linebackers, possible defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: another possibility the Alabama guys with Ashan and send Jaren Reid. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati has been a team that's taken chances
Speaker 1: with injury guys. Last year with Cedrica boy he they
Speaker 1: took him in the first round. Um, could you know
Speaker 1: Miles jack could he be a possibility? Yeah, they've You know,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is one of those teams. And you got to
Speaker 1: understand this about the Bengals, They're not afraid to take
Speaker 1: a risk. They're one of the smallest staffs in the
Speaker 1: in the National Football League when it comes to scouting departments.
Speaker 1: Coaches are very heavily involved in what they do on
Speaker 1: the personnel levels. So this is probably going to be
Speaker 1: a coach pick. You know, we have you surprised We
Speaker 1: haven't seen corners go off the board? Are you surprising?
Speaker 1: We've seen hard Graves, we've seen Apple, But there's guys
Speaker 1: like I mean, we've talked about we've talked about Howard,
Speaker 1: we've talked about Alexander, we've talked we haven't talked we
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this guys, William Jackson. Where do you
Speaker 1: have William Jackson? Is this about where you thought maybe
Speaker 1: William jack this is the range right here, Alexander, I
Speaker 1: mean I like Alexander, I like how I mean, I
Speaker 1: like those guys. But it was this where where we
Speaker 1: now it's going to maybe see at twenty four where
Speaker 1: you know, where are some of those top guys. We've
Speaker 1: mentioned the Spences and the Billings and the Reds, but
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that run on corners yet. Could the
Speaker 1: Bengals in fact make a run at a cornerback here? Yeause?
Speaker 1: I mean those are all those are all quality names
Speaker 1: right there. We haven't seen in cornerback being the second
Speaker 1: need we talked about it, wide receiver, corner, defensive end.
Speaker 1: They lost Leon Haul Uh here you go. It's uh
Speaker 1: there the names on the board when you look at
Speaker 1: it of William Jackson or McKenzie. Allen Patrick's on his
Speaker 1: last year of his deal there too, So maybe maybe
Speaker 1: they make this pick that. I think that's a direction
Speaker 1: They definitely could go. Okay, well, who do you like
Speaker 1: at of Jackson, Alexander and maybe you know, maybe Howard,
Speaker 1: but but really of the first two like Alexander, but
Speaker 1: I think Jackson is more well liked by these NFL teams.
Speaker 1: He gets a size, his length. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: he's the best corner in this draft at playing with
Speaker 1: the ball to his with his ball behind him, with
Speaker 1: the ability to play with his back to the ball, right.
Speaker 1: You know that speed, He trusts his speed. He has
Speaker 1: the instincts, the awareness, the ball skills. He gets his
Speaker 1: hands on the ball. So I think, you know, William Jackson,
Speaker 1: there had been some questions about, you know, can he
Speaker 1: digest off coverage and yeah, how that's going to play
Speaker 1: best is yeah? That you know, some questions about that.
Speaker 1: Let him get up in the face of wide receivers,
Speaker 1: let him press, let him run, turn and run, and
Speaker 1: he can be a playmaker. Okay, well then that's a
Speaker 1: that's kind of a thought. I mean, he sure he
Speaker 1: you'd like Alexander Jackson could be that kind of gay
Speaker 1: right to me? Jackson is the type of guy, so
Speaker 1: it makes sense, right, all right? Can't what else you
Speaker 1: got anything? Yeah, a lot of questions about Kim Dic Okay,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in play at thirty four.
Speaker 1: Possibly there's another guy that you know, he's plays as
Speaker 1: the three technique. You know, the Cowboys. They've invested a
Speaker 1: lot of money. I think that the Cowboys do go defense,
Speaker 1: but maybe this is where it's a defensive end. You know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about Bullard, We've talked about Dodd h Calhoun
Speaker 1: is a guy. We mentioned spins that might be too
Speaker 1: much for somebody to deal with right there. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, Yeah, we talked again about
Speaker 1: William Jackson, his his his length, the ability to play
Speaker 1: the play with his back to the ball. I think
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati right here to me, I love this fit.
Speaker 1: In the NFC North um has to go up against
Speaker 1: guys like Antonio Brown, Right, you know that Brown's just
Speaker 1: drafted Corey Coleman. Right, Um, you know the Ravens had
Speaker 1: a first round receiver last year with Perryman. So look
Speaker 1: at the Bengal selection here about to be announced at
Speaker 1: the podium. Yeah, and it looks like the commissionaire. In
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: select William Jackson. There you go, day, nice shop defensive back, Houston.
Speaker 1: There you go William Jackson again, his ball skills, his
Speaker 1: ability to play the ball. Uh. You know at any
Speaker 1: point in the field, he does a lot of wide
Speaker 1: receiver like things. So I think that's really uh that
Speaker 1: that for William Jackson. It's a natural fit for what
Speaker 1: Cincinnati does. And again at going to a division where
Speaker 1: you have to be able to cover these wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and so I think it does make sense. Okay, this
Speaker 1: means now that the Pittsburgh series, we stay in the
Speaker 1: AFC North, the Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock and
Speaker 1: they have a full, all out allotment of time. Excuse me, h,
Speaker 1: Ken't what else you got on questions? Yeah, we get
Speaker 1: a question what would you target? I mean, looking at
Speaker 1: the depth and the players still there obviously, what would
Speaker 1: you target at thirty four corner or pass rusher? I
Speaker 1: think the best player on the board at one of
Speaker 1: those two spots. Yeah, I think that's that's the cop
Speaker 1: out answer, but that's the truth. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think you want to you don't want to predetermine. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're definitely going in this position. You know, we want
Speaker 1: to take the best player available at a position of need.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at corner, you look at defensive end.
Speaker 1: You know, I think, yes, you're leaning towards defense, but
Speaker 1: don't count out other positions. Maybe that'll help you on offense,
Speaker 1: depending on who falls, whether that's a orderback or uh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe another position. So defense makes sense with
Speaker 1: Kevin Dodd if he's there, I think that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to play. Are you like Bullet? You
Speaker 1: like Bullard better than I had? Bullard's a first round player.
Speaker 1: To me, I think there's a chance he could, you know,
Speaker 1: come off Pittsburgh here. Yeah, okay, Pittsburgh's pick is in.
Speaker 1: They have an idea of exactly the direction they want
Speaker 1: to go. Commissioner is going to be to the podium
Speaker 1: here in jest a minute. Always have a lot of
Speaker 1: respect for the Steelers. I've always had. It's a that's
Speaker 1: an organization that you know, they have consistency at coaching
Speaker 1: and head coaching. The scouts have the same it's the
Speaker 1: same plan, it's the same focus. Uh. You know, those
Speaker 1: teams that had that continuity seem to do a nice
Speaker 1: shots anytime. No, they did, and they had a player
Speaker 1: in mind. We're picking now at twenty five and here
Speaker 1: it is Commissioner Goodell pick. In the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Hardy Burns, defensive
Speaker 1: back Miami. Interesting. Already, Burns and you have to wonder
Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh was about to take William Jackson before Cincinnati
Speaker 1: swooped in and took him. Well, they knew what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do because they handed the pick in pretty early.
Speaker 1: Though maybe that's a guy that they they had, They
Speaker 1: had a little bit of some thought on there. So
Speaker 1: a little bit to talk a little bit about Already
Speaker 1: Burns from Miami University of Miami. Yeah, Already Burns. You know,
Speaker 1: six foot, one hundred ninety five pounds, a four or
Speaker 1: four athlete. Uh, you know, he had six interceptions last
Speaker 1: year at tied for the acc lead. He's still very
Speaker 1: very raw, and you see that it very unpolished, both
Speaker 1: physically in terms of press and how he uses his hands,
Speaker 1: but also route anticipation. But he's physical. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: in your face.