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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith Steak is that woo woom? And

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Speaker 1: Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rubble boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 2: in beautiful Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited. I am shot out of a cannon.

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Speaker 2: I took a shower for the first time in three days.

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Speaker 2: Excited for this concept, Excited to welcome back video into

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Speaker 2: the fold for however long. Because you're a handsome guy.

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Speaker 2: On my better days, I approach handsome. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: told so I'm excited to do this episode. I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna throw some some haymakers, I hope.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited throwing some haymakers, throwing some screwballs, some

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Speaker 2: off speed stuff. Really just trying to keep each other

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Speaker 2: off balance. I can't see you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're wearing. I'm wearing my.

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Speaker 2: Standard fair gray shirt, but I've got a red Georgia

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Speaker 1: Now, oh, look at you, and yeah, I can't see you.

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Speaker 1: We're recording this to cards. I am not wearing a hat.

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Speaker 2: I have a red Georgia hat on which we will

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Speaker 2: get to momentarily, but before we do, Hello, welcome. Don't

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see where rolls in? Yeah, do it now?

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Speaker 2: Dan, what is the concept for this Here's show?

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Speaker 1: I don't know the name, but we've tossed around a

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Speaker 2: Who are we trying to bring to either Alabama or Georgia?

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Speaker 1: So we're going to go with the name Gunner Simpson,

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Speaker 2: Why don't you start? Why don't you start, mister Rubustein.

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Speaker 1: It's this is quite easy for me. Alabama's the standard,

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban is the standard. What Alabama produces on the

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Speaker 1: It's cartoonishly the standard. You go to Alabama, you are

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, the greatest coach in college football history at

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Speaker 2: We don't want that for you. You don't want that

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Speaker 2: Let's get you in the NFL, and let's win a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed all of the hypothetical selling points in

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Speaker 2: Georgia hasn't won national championships recently. Sure, but if you

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Speaker 2: everybody will tell you that George is close. George's close.

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart was there in the very beginning with Nick Saban.

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Speaker 2: I think we have seen very early returns on what

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Speaker 2: it's again hypothetical. They have yet to even beat Alabama

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Speaker 1: Ty. So, No, if you want to live in the hypothetical,

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Speaker 2: Why why don't we talk about Alabama quarterbacks at the

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Speaker 1: Can we? Can we talk about them? Because after they've

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Speaker 2: So are like, are we hanging our hats? You missed

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Speaker 2: We didn't even think Mac Jones should be in the

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Speaker 2: So are we hanging our hat on Greg McElroy and

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Speaker 1: What are we going on here?

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Speaker 2: What are we trying to sell to what's his name, gunner,

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Speaker 1: Who's the analog? Well, the NFL draft is a crapshoot.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, great quarterback. The last time Georgia had a

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Speaker 1: And fantastic obviously of the NFL and the Capitals, the CBA,

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Speaker 1: Not Kirby Smart's fault that it's been that long. But

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Speaker 1: You see five star quarterback after five star quarterback after

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Speaker 1: We recruited Jake from here to Alabama didn't work out,

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Speaker 2: to recruit Gunner to come and coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you who's going to develop Simpson. I'm telling

432
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Speaker 1: you Coach Saban's track record identifying coaching talent. That's great.

433
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Speaker 2: Gunner is a quarterback, and if you want to develop

434
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, one of the things that might spook

435
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: you out is that your offensive coordinator changes every freaking year,

436
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: every freaking year. It's great for Nick Saban's legacy as

437
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: the greatest college football coach of all time to know

438
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: that he could bring in high priced coordinator talent on

439
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: a moment's notice. He can assemble the pieces and he

440
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: can still get his team to the national championship because

441
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: of a level of talent, because of coaching acumen. For sure,

442
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 2: that is a feather in his cap. It's something that

443
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: no one else has really ever done. Sure, if I'm

444
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: Gunner Simpson, do I want to walk into a situation

445
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: where the track record sure is that we've had great

446
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: coordinators here who have gone on to great things. But

447
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: also the track record is we have a new set

448
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: of coordinators every freaking year. That doesn't give me the

449
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: warm fuzzies. Let's talk a little bit about Todd Monkin.

450
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Todd Monkin. Yeah, did you go back

451
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: and check the sp plus from twenty twenty to see

452
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: what George's offense looked like relative to Alabama's. I know

453
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: Alabama's was rife with firepower, no question about that. Historically efficient,

454
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: historically efficient. But Gunner Simpson, his name is Gunner for

455
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: a res dan kid likes to throw the ball. We

456
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: set it at the top five star, a ton of

457
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: arm talent, not a dual threat guy. He can move right,

458
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: he moves around in the pocket. Sure, a kid like

459
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: Gunner wants to air the ball out. You know where

460
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: Alabama under Mac Jones ranked relative to Georgia in terms

461
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: of air yards per past the style of play, have

462
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: any idea Georgia was tenth. Georgia was tense. So when

463
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Todd Monkey came over, by the way, he came from

464
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, part of what he was trying to do

465
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: was build more of a vertically oriented passing game. This

466
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: was on the heels of the Jake from era where

467
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: it was a lot of dink and dunk stuff, and

468
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: Georgia fans got fed up with that Monkey came in.

469
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: The intention was to try and stretch the field vertically. Now,

470
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: he did not have the ability to do that as

471
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: much with a guy like a Stetson Bennett. It didn't

472
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: work out. They had the issue with JT. Daniels need

473
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: not being clear until later in the season. But once

474
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: he was cleared, things started to happen in a really

475
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: positive way and we started to see more of that

476
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: explosive offense. That is what he is selling, that is

477
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: what he is trying to build. Alabama did a lot

478
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: of dink and dunk stuff. Dan a lot of dink

479
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: and dunk stuff. Mac Jones was very effective when he

480
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: did throw down the field, no doubt. But the air

481
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: yard stat proves it out to me. Alabama as the

482
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: ninetieth ranked team in FBS, this is not a team

483
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: that stretched the field through the air at least air

484
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: yards as much as you would expect. They had great

485
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: receivers who ran after the catch, for sure. But if

486
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: you want to come to a school young gunner that

487
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: likes to air it out and give you the ability

488
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: to throw the deep ball, let's go to Todd Monkin.

489
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: Let's talk Todd Monkin. You know how Todd Mankin right

490
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: now is out there recruiting talent Dan while how's that

491
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: other schools are talking about meal plans and team here.

492
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: I got this from an article. By the way, I didn't.

493
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't have any insider knowledge. I got this from

494
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: you SI dot com.

495
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Please.

496
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: He's getting down to brass tax with these guys. Brass tacks,

497
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: gets in the room with the kids, starts talking about

498
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: how they could fit into his system, what it's going

499
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: to be like when they play college football for the

500
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Georgia Bulldogs, and it's working. Early returns are very positive

501
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: on what Monk has been able to do on the

502
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: recruiting trail. I think, I think if I'm Gunner Simpson,

503
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: I like that I've got a guy in Monk and

504
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: who can just tell me straight, how do I fit

505
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: into the system. What's it going to look like when

506
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: I come and play as the face of this program?

507
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: Not what's it going to be like when I get

508
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: to Tuscaloosa and I have to battle a quarterback room

509
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: of like fifteen other guys.

510
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: Sure, no, listen, if you want to build up those

511
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: air yard stats with J. T. Daniels against South Carolina

512
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: and Missouri, and it's fine, It's totally good. If you

513
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: want to play on that sort of platform and puff

514
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: your chest out about that. That's totally good. And if

515
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: you don't want to compete against the best, if you

516
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: want to tell what you're able to do against five

517
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: hundred ish or below five hundred tight programs who fire

518
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: their coaches, totally you're right, absolutely right. But the SEC

519
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: West is a different story tie as you know, and

520
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: it's LSU, it's Texas, A and M. There are schools

521
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: here that are developing defensive players, not just defensive player,

522
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: not just a guy here, a guy there. For one

523
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: of these SEC schools. We saw what Florida's defense was

524
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: able to or really not able to do these past

525
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: couple of years. So I get where you're coming from.

526
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: And when George is down to Stetson Bennett and they

527
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: don't have JT. Daniels available, Look, they're coming back a lot.

528
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: The offense is not pulling up their end of things.

529
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: I get that Stetson Bennett has to air it out.

530
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: What other choice does Georgia have? Whereas Alabama, you know,

531
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: when you bring in somebody like Steve Sarkisian and he's saying,

532
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: we'll just get it to naj Harrison a little bit

533
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: of safe if I overthink it.

534
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: Is Steve Sarkisian still at Alabama, so he's.

535
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: Not He's just another run of Broyles coordinators that keeps

536
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: getting biggers because so he won't be there to help

537
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: develop Bryce Young even though he went there last year.

538
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: And then they brought in another guy who is probably

539
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 2: just gonna look for another head coaching job.

540
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying to me? Yeah, no, if

541
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: you can pay for if you can pay for houses

542
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: and your children's college educations with I think your term

543
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: was warm fuzzies. That's great. If George is keeping coordinators around,

544
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: you know what that means. That means nobody wants your coordinators. Tie,

545
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: that means nobody wants your coordinators. I mean again, Jim,

546
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Jim Cheney and James Coley. Are they high level coordinators

547
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: somewhere else? So they head coaches somewhere else. It turns

548
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: out they're not. It turns out they're not Tie, and

549
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: that's okay. Everybody has their own journey, but they're not.

550
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: They just the warm fuzzies are good for some people

551
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: and results are good for other people. Wearing a baseball

552
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: hat on the first round night of the NFL Draft,

553
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: That does it for more people tie to me, to

554
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: me again, warm fuzzy you. That's cool. That's who you're

555
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: selling right here. That the coordinator stick around forever. That's

556
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: totally good. If you want, if you want to show

557
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: up at the facility every day and see the same

558
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: coaches for four years, that's totally good. But in the

559
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: big leagues tie people come after the best, and it's

560
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: a matter of what do you do to replace the

561
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: best with the next best. That's what defines a program,

562
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: and that's what Alabama keeps doing with the best head

563
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: coach in college football.

564
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: Again, the whole pitch is Nick Saban. It's a good pitch.

565
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: It's great, It's a good pitch. How do you not

566
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: admire what Nick Saban's done?

567
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: Has he as the standard at quarterback? Has changed?

568
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Hi?

569
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: Nick Saban rolls with the times. He's a great exactly

570
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart doing with five star qbs Again, Jacob E's

571
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: and Jake from justin fields they leave they do better elsewhere.

572
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, Ty, You tell me

573
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: you're the one more familiar with the program. Well, it

574
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: seems what that is.

575
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: It seems like it's a virtue for other programs. We

576
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: saw it most recently at LSU when they recognize that

577
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: there's a deficiency and they make a move to try

578
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: and solve that, and that's what happened. I think recently

579
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: when they brought Monkin in, they brought JT. Daniels over,

580
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: and I think we started to see some of the

581
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: returns on that investment towards the latter half of the season.

582
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I think we'll see more of it in twenty twenty.

583
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: I think Kirby's smart. Kirby Smart is trying to model

584
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: the UGA program after Alabama, and he is a younger Saban.

585
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about. Let's forget about assistant

586
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: coaches for a second. What happens is Saban leaves no

587
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: offense to the gentleman. He's a great coach, no doubt, Goud,

588
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: He's sixty nine years old. What happens when Nick Saban

589
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: leaves to that program? This is something If I am young,

590
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: what's his name, Gner, Gunner Simpson, Gunner Simps. If I'm

591
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: Gunner Simpson, that I think is a fair question. I

592
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about Kirby Smart leaving. He's like

593
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: forty five years old. He's going to be there forever.

594
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Okay, So Georgia will come up just short forever. I mean,

595
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: you're trafficking and the hypothetical, which I get. That's George's

596
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: lot in life. It's always next year, it's always the

597
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: next two years. But the fact is Alabama's the standard

598
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: for a reason. Alabama's absolutely the top of the heap

599
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: for a reason. And Georgia. Look, Georgie's been to the

600
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: college Football Plaoff as many times as Michigan State in Washington. Right,

601
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: it's once one time, one time, Kirby Smart recruiting like

602
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: a national champion, developing like a pretty good team, and

603
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: showing the results of ultimately in terms of the end

604
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: of the season getting to the college football playoff the

605
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: same number of times as Michigan State and Washington.

606
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Let me take a knee here for a second, okay,

607
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: and let me talk to young gunner Kirby Smart, the

608
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: captain of this ship in Athens, Georgia. He's another Georgia kid,

609
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: you know. He was born in Alabama but moved to

610
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: Georgia as a youth. I was raised there in the

611
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: southwestern corner of Georgia down towards the Florida Panhandle. He's

612
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: another Georgia kid who was interested in Alabama. Dan he

613
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: actually went to work there for eight years. He liked

614
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Alabama so much that he moved back to Georgia. All right, sure,

615
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: this is a guy, great job. This is a guy

616
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: who knows what it's like to go from Georgia to Alabama.

617
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Liked it enough that he came back. He knows what

618
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: it takes to win at the level over there in Alabama.

619
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: He also knows that george is a better place to

620
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: be geographically. It's a better place. It's a better college town,

621
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: it's a better game day atmosphere. It's not all about

622
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: on the field stuff. You also have to have a

623
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: college experience. So he knows that Georgia is a better

624
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: academic institution. He knows that there are better traditions at

625
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: the Great State of Georgia at the university, things like

626
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: the dog walk, which you don't have it Alabama. You

627
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: have a dog walk at Alabama. How about the cool

628
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: fourth quarter phone flashlight thing that they do. I don't

629
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: know what the name is that of that is, by

630
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: the way, but I know it's better than the weird

631
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: wed freaking laser lights show that they try to do

632
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: at Brian Denny Stadium. Sure, Georgia has a better football,

633
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: better game day tradition, It's a better place to be,

634
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: it's a better place to live out your college years.

635
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: And given the fact that young Gunner Simpson is from

636
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: the Atlanta suburbs, which I don't know if we mentioned

637
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: or not, do we mention that?

638
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, metro Atlanta?

639
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not get all the perks of playing for

640
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: Alabama without having to move to Alabama? Dan play in

641
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: front of your friends and family. Athens is about an

642
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: hour and fifteen away from Atlanta. So not only do

643
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: you get access to the great city of Atlanta, a

644
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: great metropolitan area, but you can get a home cooked

645
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: meal whenever you want. You also don't have to put

646
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: your parents out right, what happens when it comes time

647
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: to go and watch a game in Tuscaloosa if you

648
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: live in the Atlanta burbs, well, in all likelihood you're

649
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: taking a plane from Alabama to Birmingham.

650
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what that it runs on a college

651
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: football Saturday or Friday.

652
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: But I'm guessing it's somewhere north of three hundred bucks.

653
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: You can still play in the best conference in college

654
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: football without having to move to another state without putting

655
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: your friends and family out if they want to come

656
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: and see you. And again, you get all the perks

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: playing in Alabama without having to move.

658
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: There and without the hassle of parents having to pay

659
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: airfare to go to the college football playoff. Right, that's

660
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: a big selling point. You get to save money because

661
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: your parents don't have to pay to fly to wherever

662
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, La or Dallas or any of those.

663
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: Unless they play at the Chick fil A Peach Bowl,

664
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: in which case.

665
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: Yes they play and against Cincinnati, who is not quite

666
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: a Power five team, but they play like it sometimes.

667
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. You don't get to go away to

668
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: play in a bowl game. I suppose if you go

669
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, you just get to stay home. Alabama is

670
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: about a three hour drive from Atlanta. It's not a

671
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: big deal. It's the same distance from LA to San Diego.

672
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: They're not talking about a huge flight and expenses across

673
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the country. Three hour drive, that's fine. Three hour drive

674
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: is nothing. It's two podcasts tie, it's nothing. Yeah, all

675
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: of what you're saying is absolutely true. And I should

676
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: mention because you brought up Kirby smart knows what it's

677
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: like to go from Georgia to Alabama. You know who

678
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: else knows how to go from Georgia to Alabama. The

679
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: last two Heisman winners from Alabama committed to Georgia. Thought

680
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: it through and said, hmmm, roll tide. Yeah. Derrick Henry

681
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: and DeVante Smith both committed to Georgia, thought it through

682
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: and said, I think we go to Alabama and college

683
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: experience is important. Tie, It's super important. Academics is important,

684
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the college experience is important. But as our good friend

685
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Cardale Jones once pointed out and then I think later attracted,

686
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: but it should be noted, it's not going there to

687
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: play school, right, You're going there to play football. And

688
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: so Alabama offers a ton and guy, you can get

689
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: out of school what you put into it. Barrett Jones.

690
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: You look at what Barrett Jones was able to do

691
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: as an All Americans and the degrees that he got.

692
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: He put in work academically, he put in work on

693
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: the football field, and they paid off for him on

694
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: both levels. And so you get what you put in,

695
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: and that's fine. Alabama offers a ton in terms of

696
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: academic support, in terms of the college experience. Tuscaloosa is

697
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: a great time tee town tie. Our good friend Andy

698
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Staples named the best place to eat in any college

699
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: football town, any college football town, and he was very

700
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: loose with that term as well. Archibald's Ribs, right outside

701
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: of Tuscaloosa, Northport, Alabama, the number one meal. Andy Staples

702
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: has tried them all and he's saying Metro Tuscaloosa, that's

703
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: the move arch I've been to Archibald's tie. I myself

704
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: have pulled up to Archibald's. It's a counter window and

705
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: that sort of off a house. The smoker sort of

706
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: connected to the house. It's hidden. There's all the charm

707
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: in the world. The people there are crazy friendly. The

708
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: experience is phenomenal, and I've yet to meet a college

709
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: football player who doesn't enjoy a nice stack of ribs

710
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: every so often. That offers it all.

711
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: Tuscaloosi also offers that weird seizure inducing laser light show

712
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: at the start of a game, which I just can't get.

713
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I can't get over.

714
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: No'sa good for the ribs. I'm glad that the ribs

715
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: are great at Archibald's. I'm sure Gunner, I'm sure they

716
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: will treat Gunner well. If and when he goes on

717
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: his official.

718
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: But I like that. I mean again it's traffic trafficking

719
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: and the hypothetical the facilities will be second to none. Well,

720
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: Alabama's facilities are already there. They have a separate locker

721
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: room for practice. Tie a separate locker room for practice.

722
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: They have and what do we always say on the show,

723
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: You're only as comfortable as your feet they have. You

724
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 1: can use a little more enthusiasm when the word feet.

725
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: They have a customed thank you. They have a custom

726
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: fit digital foot scale thing that measures the contours of

727
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: your foot for the proper sizing of your cleat and

728
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: the proper cleat to where nobody else has it.

729
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: You could you could go to New Balance they have

730
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: They have that machine in the corner.

731
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: It does the same thing. Yeah, I mean that's more

732
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: of a Boston college thing I've heard at this point.

733
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: If that's what you're your focus is going to be. Now,

734
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: you get everything, You get the Swoosh, you get Nike,

735
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you get everything at Alabama, you get the facilities second

736
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: to none already. Well, and if you don't like the

737
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: light show, you don't like the light show, but you

738
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: got to better get re used to the big bright

739
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: lights phase. That's what you're playing under.

740
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: Phase Phase one of the facilities renovation just completed, part

741
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: of an eighty million dollar effort. By the time phase

742
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: two is complete, Yes, the indoor practice facility will be

743
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: roughly the size of thirty five basketball courts. I did

744
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: the conversion, but sure in the interim state of the art.

745
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: They're just being allowed to see it now because of COVID,

746
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: And there's a ton of excitement about what this is

747
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: going to mean for the program, how it's going to

748
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: infuse it with new energy, with new opportunity, with new technology,

749
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: and hopefully new talent on the arm of young Gunner Simpson.

750
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Sure, I just hope you have someone to throw it

751
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: to that will be looked at as kindly as Alabama

752
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: receivers are and continue to be as Alabama just brought

753
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: in in the twenty twenty one class, the number one

754
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: class of all time. Surround yourself with the best. I

755
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: can't see a downside in that tie. And I know

756
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: people say, well, look, you're sitting behind guys, You're not playing,

757
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: You're not getting in there, You're not the man you are.

758
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: You want to be the face of a program, great. Honestly,

759
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. If you want to be that face right away.

760
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: Georgia is the school for you. Thank kids. There's a

761
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: reason why you can be the face right away. You

762
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: don't have a current face lined up. Maybe it's brock Vandigraph.

763
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: Maybe again, we're trafficking in hypotheticals. But Alabama, perhaps you're

764
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: sitting behind somebody for one, two, three years, as we

765
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: saw Tua behind Jalen Hurts, as we saw mac Jones

766
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: behind Tua. But guess what they're getting reps at the

767
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: end of games. They're getting live game reps. They're playing

768
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: against the best scout team in college football, as mac

769
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Jones was admonished by Nick Saban because he was looking

770
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: too good and embarrassing Nick Saban's number one defense at

771
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: that practice too much and had to tone it down.

772
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: Iron Shapen's iron sharpens iron tie. And I'm seeing some

773
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: dull blades on that Georgia offensive field. I just am

774
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't know what to tell you.

775
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just going to revert back to what I

776
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: said before. You are correct in saying that Jeordia does

777
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: not have as many players in the NFL as Alabama

778
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: it's by a pretty wide margin. Kirby Smart is building

779
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: that he is building that juggernaut. There is no doubt

780
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: in college football circles that eventually he's going to get there.

781
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: What I can tell you is that they are recruiting

782
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: very well at the receiver position. What I can tell

783
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: you is that there is a very recent track record

784
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: of developing running backs. So you can be the main

785
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: and without having to have it all on your arm,

786
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: you have some support. There are nine offensive linemen from

787
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Georgia playing in the NFL, most recently Andrew Thomas, a

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: very high draft pick by the New York Giants. So

789
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: they are starting to ramp this machine up. And if

790
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: you are young Gunner Simpson, if you want to be

791
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: the face of a program, as you said, Georgia is

792
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: the place for you because we are looking for individuals,

793
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: for talent who can come in be the face of

794
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: the dynasty and not a plug and play puzzle piece

795
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: at a school like in Alabama. We want you to

796
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: be part of something. We want you to help define

797
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: your legacy and hours by stepping foot on campus during

798
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: this time of transformation.

799
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it should be pointed out Georgia's legacy is

800
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: not beating Alabama since two thousand and seven, ty Doweled,

801
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: were you in two thousand and seven? Were you twenty five?

802
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: Were you? Were you in your damn early to mid

803
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: twenties in two thousand and seven? Is my math correct?

804
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: I have no abstaining from comment. Okay, so you're twenty

805
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: five years old. Two thousand and seven. You look at

806
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: the box office. Let's see, Alabama loses in overtime in

807
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's first year to Georgia overtime by three points.

808
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: Georgia up ten points in the fourth quarter and gave

809
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: that lead away and managed to sneak away with a win.

810
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: You look at the box office. You want to know

811
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: two of the stars of the late September two thousand

812
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: and seven box office tie Dane Cook and Amanda Bindes.

813
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Good Luck Chuck and Sydney White hanging around the top

814
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: end on Dane Cook. I'm just telling you when you

815
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: look at the last time Georgia was truly able to

816
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: get over the hump against Alabama two thousand and seven.

817
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, Nick Saban's very Kirby Kirby players

818
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: he did not recruit was Kirby smart coaching that team

819
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: for Georgia, Kirby Smart was not. I'm just telling you

820
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: the place football perception is reality. Tie. I'm just telling you.

821
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 1: And so it's it's been a long time. The Georgia

822
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: brand is due. It's due for it's it's refresh, it's

823
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: due to get over the hum hump. It's due to

824
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: get the monkey off of its back. But Alabama's the

825
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: back tie. I mean, listen, you hold yourself to a standard.

826
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: That's how you've gotten this foreign life. Gun or Simpson.

827
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: You're coveted by everybody.

828
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: The first time. You said his name the first time.

829
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: If you're trying to recruit him, you need to say

830
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: his name often.

831
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: I see, Look, you have to pull out all of

832
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: the Michael Scott tricks. I get it. I get it.

833
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: If you're Georgia, you have to do all of those things.

834
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: But we're just talking like people here. So I think

835
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I think it's clear. I think the case is clear.

836
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly don't. I don't want to be

837
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: in your position, because recruiting against Alabama it's tough. Now,

838
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: maybe it's a it's a distance thing, maybe it's a

839
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: familiarity thing. Maybe it's a you know, I I think

840
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: the roles are cutter or something. Here at Georgia. I

841
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: get all of those things. And you should select a

842
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: college for for why you want to select a college.

843
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: You want to go where it feels home. While Alabama

844
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: feels home to a lot, feels like home to a

845
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: lot of NFL draft picks, a lot of people that

846
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: are running out of fingers to put their championship rings.

847
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: And there's a reason for that. There just is. And

848
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: it's up to you to see it in my eyes,

849
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: in everybody you see in their eyes in Tuscaloosa. And

850
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: I think Gunner will. I absolutely think Gunner will because

851
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: reality is reality. Tie and once again the Michigan State

852
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: and Washington of the college football playoffs. M interesting. Yeah,

853
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: any other points you'd like for me to address.

854
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Georgia rings about one hundred spots better than Alabama according

855
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: to you know those college ranking.

856
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: Capitol one Bowl Weekly. That was good. It's finny, that's

857
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: very fight it's fair good. I like, thank you. Yeah, No,

858
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: US News and World reports, Oh okay, academics, about one

859
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 1: hundred spots better.

860
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Athens has been voted time and again one of the

861
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: best college towns in America. The median age is twenty eight,

862
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: which is about two years younger than Tuscaloosa.

863
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: So it's very much a college town.

864
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, my.

865
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: Recruiting poet Lauriate's here ty recruiting signal callers.

866
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: You know that I've got a bit of a bit

867
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: of history up at State College Pennsylvania. Athens is about

868
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: as close to state college as I've ever found. It's

869
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: a town that very much feels run by the student body.

870
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

871
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: True college town. Come be part of a new tradition

872
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: that Kirby Smart is trying to build. He's building it

873
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: very much in the image of Nick Saban, but he's

874
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: doing so in a younger, in a more modern way.

875
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: He's doing it on the other side of the same conference.

876
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: And if you Gunner Simpson step foot on this campus,

877
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: you will still get, hopefully your crack at Alabama at

878
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: least once a year in the SEC title game, and

879
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: maybe more. You'll still get your chance to beat the best,

880
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: to help to fine a new legacy, a new chapter,

881
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: a new era of Georgia Bulldogs football, and be the

882
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: face of this program and go on to aspire to

883
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: great things at the next level.

884
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: That is, who who had the best game for George

885
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: in the SEC Championship Game this year? Who was it

886
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: that you would like Point to be like? You could

887
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: be this type of player in the SEC Championship Game

888
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty Kyle Trask, Kadarius Tony, Who are we

889
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: talking about here? I told you my pitch is over.

890
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm done. I say, okay, I want I'm going out

891
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: on a high note. I'm out ty. I thought you

892
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: did a great job. I thank you. I mean you

893
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: had the more difficult position. You chose it. You chose

894
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: to represent Georgia. I gave you the choice. You went

895
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: with Georgia. I thought you did a very good job.

896
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: I probably would have sold Athens more. Athens is a

897
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: fantastic place. See here's here's here's my issue. Yeah, you

898
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: can eat well, you can do all sorts of outdoor stuff.

899
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Here's my issue. You have people from high school that

900
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: you know. You immediately have a bunch of friends because

901
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: you're from Georgia, and obviously there's gonna be some in

902
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: state element to it.

903
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Does he does Gunner Simpson, being from the Atlanta Burbs,

904
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: need someone to sell him on Athens. I feel like

905
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: for him, Athens sort of sells itself because he's clearly

906
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: familiar with it. What he's i'm guessing not as familiar

907
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: with is the inner workings and the machinations of the

908
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: football program. Because anybody can go to Athens, go to

909
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: a game, and walk around campus and experience the dog

910
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: walk and those sorts of things. But right, let's take

911
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: him inside the spaceship as they've called it, that landed

912
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: and is now the indoor practice facility. Let's take them

913
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: inside the facilities to see what it's actually like to

914
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: be part of part of the football team. So I

915
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: didn't sell it. I'm also, frankly just not as strong

916
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: on that topic as you might be. So I can

917
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: sell the football. I can look into it, and I

918
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: could see where things are trending in that in that world.

919
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: But I was trying to play to my strengths here

920
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: as a recruiter.

921
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: No, I get you, No, I just think Athens is

922
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: fantastic and the campus is beautiful. There is I think

923
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: a poultry sciences building on the University of Toors. You're

924
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: into that. Both campuses have Chick fil A's. I think Georgia's.

925
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what Alabama's is, but Georgia's has Chick

926
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: fil A Express. I don't know what that means. It

927
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: looked like a standard Chick fil A in the Union.

928
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I mean State's got one too. I think everyone's got one.

929
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just Chick fil A is all over the place. No,

930
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: but it's important, It absolutely is important. You need great

931
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: food in Athens. You can have a great life in Athens.

932
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: And look, if you want to go home to do laundry,

933
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: you're yeah, you're right. You did hit the distance thing.

934
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: You're about an hour fifteen away from Metchro Atlanta. Depending.

935
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: Traffic can be quite terrible in Atlanta, though, so you

936
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: never know. But Alabama's not you know, it's not across

937
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: the country. It's three hours. So it's a it's a

938
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: good selling point. It's not the best selling point. And

939
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: I think you can add that, you know, Rock Vandergriff.

940
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia has recruited at quarterback very well, so

941
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: it's not like you need to step in right away.

942
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: You can be behind Brock, you can be behind whoever.

943
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: So Georgia has their own thing. But well, look two,

944
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think how else would I have sold Georgia.

945
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Two great schools? Anyway you shake it. Two great SEC schools.

946
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: Have we given any thought to what our next matchup

947
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: might be?

948
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: I think we got to go to the Big ten? Okay,

949
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: do we want to do a high in Michigan? We

950
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: want to do? Is that too obvious? No, it's not

951
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: that it's not bad. I mean my assumption is Michigan

952
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: has recruited the last few years. Have they recruited better

953
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: than Penn State? Right? Along with Penn State? I mean,

954
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: I feel like more they're both difficult in terms of

955
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: it depends the position we choose. I think we should

956
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: go defense on the next episode.

957
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: I think I think it needs to if we're staying

958
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: in the spirit of true recruiting rivalry within conference. Right,

959
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: the biggest rivalry in college football is Ohio State Michigan.

960
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: We'd be remiss if we did not pick that one.

961
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Is Michigan Ohio State's biggest They're not probably not Ohio

962
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: State's biggest national rival in terms of recruiting only right,

963
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State's biggest national rival is probably Clemson, Alabama, Alabama, Clemsony. Yeah,

964
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, they're competing for the top top top

965
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: of the class. But if we keep in the Big ten.

966
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: If we keep it within the Big ten, I mean,

967
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: Penn State has honestly been a little stronger in terms

968
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: of recruiting I think in recent years. Right, So, if

969
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: we want to do Ohio State, and we should, and

970
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: if we want to keep it in conference, and we should,

971
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: it's either Michigan or Penn State, I'll let you pick.

972
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: Well, you're you're already sort of leg up in terms

973
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: of research on Penn State. Right, I'm gonna do Michigan.

974
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Then when we keep it fair, Okay, let's do Michigan

975
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and you can if you want to chose

976
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State, chose Ohio State. That's totally fine. That's obviously

977
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: the much easier selling job. Well I had.

978
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: I had Georgia, which was a bit of a dog

979
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: and underdog in this fight. Sure, why don't I take

980
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State next time and you take Michigan.

981
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: Done?

982
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: Okay, this one better than I thought, if I'm being

983
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: honest with right, this one better.

984
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: Than I thought. I looked. I really did look up

985
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: case Keenum's salary numbers.

986
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: I have.

987
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I have Matt.

988
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: I have Matt Stafford's salary here. He made so much money. Well,

989
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford should make a lot of money. He's a

990
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: really good NFL.

991
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Quarterback, I know, but that's one of mine. Right, He's

992
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: been really good for a long time. Not the best,

993
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: but really good.

994
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: He got in under the wire before. As he said,

995
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: they changed the rule, but not before the last guy. Right,

996
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: Sam Bradford was the last guy.

997
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: Oh, Sam Bradford.

998
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, they changed it after after Sam Bradford, which is

999
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 2: probably a good move. So all right, look, this is fun.

1000
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: What are we calling this? By the way, do we

1001
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: determine what we're calling this? I'm gonna play the music

1002
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: one more time.

1003
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good theme. I'm just sorry. I'm looking

1004
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: at Michigan's recruiting ranks since twenty seventeen. It's twenty seventeen

1005
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: number two. They just kind of went two three with

1006
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: Penn State every year behind Ohio State. Twenty nineteen Michigan

1007
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: was it says twenty nineteen Michigan had the best class

1008
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: in the Big ten? Is that true? You're looking at

1009
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: maybe national rank? Was that one? How can this be?

1010
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking Michigan number eight. Where did Ohio State finish?

1011
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: They finished number fourteen? That must have Oh, they had

1012
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: a small class. I see Ohio State ninety one eighty seven.

1013
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: Ninety one point eighty seven was their average recruit. Michigan's

1014
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: was ninety point seven. So Michigan has had a bigger

1015
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: class and also a really good class. So I guess

1016
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State's guys had the higher average. It's okay, they

1017
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: were competitive. They've had really strong classes. So I'll go Michigan.

1018
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Ohiouse State? What did you just ask me? What are

1019
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: we calling this? What are we calling it?

1020
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: Uh?

1021
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Recruiting something? Recruiting wars?

1022
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

1023
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: You used to do wars? Do we want to go

1024
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: and do wars? Recruiting wars? College pitch? I don't know.

1025
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: You tell me, ty, you tell me what what what?

1026
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out to pay more. People don't need

1027
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: to listen to this part. This is yeah behind.

1028
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: Hard sell, perfect perfect hard cell, hard cell Georgia of Verus,

1029
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: Salabama or hard cell calling sec powers. All right, Well,

1030
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: thank you to one and all for listening to our debate.

1031
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,640
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1032
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,080
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1033
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,160
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1034
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: Know who won. Yeah, who is more convincing, not more

1035
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: persuad not the better choice, not your own opinion that

1036
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: Georgia is a better place to go than Alabama, or

1037
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: Alabama is a better place to go to than Georgia.

1038
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: But who more persuades you the hard sell and was

1039
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: more persuasive.

1040
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,480
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1041
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,160
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1042
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,920
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1043
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1044
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1046
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1047
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1048
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1050
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1051
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: experience in that world and you would like to help

1052
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: out the team.

1053
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: So I got Dan, I think I was more dickish.

1054
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: I think I definitely now what I think about it.

1055
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: That might have turned some people off, But that's nothing new.

1056
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: That really isn't No, it's not okay for that guy

1057
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: over there. My good friend as always Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

1058
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
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1059
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1060
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: We will talk to you all next week.

1061
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