1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Rob, I feel like there's something 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I've got to share with the listeners that they don't 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: know about yet, which is a few weeks ago, I 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: was on vacation. Rachel and I were up in the 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: state of Maine. We were we were up on the 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: northeast coast, and I received an email from you. I 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: got it in my hotel room one morning, and it 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: was an email full of the most twisted statements about 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: the characteristics of alligator persons. Talked about what alligator persons 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: do in the bog and fog, the fact that alligator 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: persons have no eyes, that alligator persons have no skin, 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, what is this that Rob is 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: sending me? Uh? And it turns out you were copying 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and paste ing AI generated stories that you were getting 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: ready to record an interview with the I think at 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: least one of the authors of a book about stories 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: composed by machines, and uh that that you were experimenting 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: with a tool that was linked to the authors of 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: this book, and so I, even though I was on vacation, 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've got to play with this 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a little bit too, And and wow, it's been out 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: some good stuff I've I've played with AI generated stories before. 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: You various tools people have put together, but I gotta 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: say this is the best one I've ever encountered. Yeah, 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: it's it's quite addictive. So if this is if you 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: want to taste you this, you can go to story 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: hyphen Machines dot net. This is the website for the 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: new book Story Machines, How Computers Have Become Creative Writers 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: by Mark Sharpell's and Raphael Perez Perez Uh. Tomorrow's episode 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: of Stuff to Blow Your Mind is an interview with 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Mike Sharpell's about the book about the subject of the book. 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, on the website here, they have a story 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: generator that's powered by GPT three from open Ai and 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: it has just it's very simple. It's just two little fields. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: You can put in a title, and you have the 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: option of putting in some text for the story, like 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: an opening line. Then you press you essentially press in 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: create and uh GPT three will put together a little fiction. Uh, 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: it will. It will create a little story for you, 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: or a fragment of a story. And the results, you know, 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they're a little wonky. Sometimes it didn't quite work, 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: but sometimes it's quite impressive. So I think the first 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: thing you sent me was queuing off of rocky erics 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: and lyrics that you paste it in, and it produced 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: a kind of bone chilling, repetitive, almost religious chant like 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: paragraph of of statements about alligator persons that really did 50 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: read like it like an ancient Egyptian holy text. Um. Yeah, 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I had some fun also putting in Um. I forget 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: what I put in on that one, but there was 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: one where I just put in a line from from 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: some of his lyrics, the lyrics Gremlins have pictures of 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the Anniversary of Christ. I put that into the title 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: and it it really blew me away. It composed the 57 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: following quote. The Gremlins have been planning for this day 58 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: for centuries. They have been watching and waiting, and finally 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: the time has come. They have pictures of the Anniversary 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: of Christ, and they are going to use them to 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: destroy the world. The Gremlins are going to show the 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: world the pictures of the crucifixion and the world will 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: be destroyed. The gremlins are laughing and celebrating because they 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: know that the world is about to end. I mean, 65 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty creepy. And it's also better than most AI 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: generated text I've come across in the way that it 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: sort of maintains a sensical nous throughout that you get 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: the feeling from one sentence to the next that the 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: sentences are not only with a valid grammatical structure, but 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: there's some kind of coherent sense of meaning that continues 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: from one statement to another, which a lot of a 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I generated text doesn't have. Yeah, it's capable of some 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: some really impressive things, like you can you can put 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: in the first line from a given short story by 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: an author, and it will continue to compose that story 76 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: in the style of that author in many cases, especially 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: if it's a recognizable style, and it clearly it's So 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: this has got to be drawing from a kind of 79 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: like corpus of the Internet, because when I have used 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: like proper names or something in a sentence that I input, 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: it draws in other usually correct information about that proper 82 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: name that I've put in, or or appropriate associations with 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: that name that are pulled from the Internet. So the 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: first thing I tried to do. I don't have the 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: original text I came up with, but I was just 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: doodling around with this when you sent it to me 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: one morning. We're getting ready to leave the hotel and 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I type in um Morbius Saves Christmas and the title 89 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: because I figured we've reached the point where the more 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: bus memes have have become so overplayed that they're actually 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: good again. They've come full circle. And I don't remember 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: what the opening line was, but I did Morbius Saves 93 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Christmas and something, and it came up with a story 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: that I found delightful, though it was a little bit confused. 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: It seemed to at some point in the story shift 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to where more Bias was also Santa Claus and people 97 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: were addressing Morbius as Santa Claus. But I just did 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: it again with with a title and an opening line, 99 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: and I think it did much better this time. Would 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: you like to hear it? I want to hear it. Yes, 101 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: So this is Morbius Saves Christmas by the machines. It 102 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: says twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: not a creature was stirring except Michael Morbius. Morbius had 104 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: been up all night trying to fix the broken Christmas tree. 105 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: He was exhausted, but he was determined to make it 106 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: look good for Christmas morening. He had just finished fixing 107 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: the last ornament when he heard a loud crash from upstairs. 108 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: He raced up the stairs and found that the tree 109 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: had fallen over. Morbius was devastated. He had worked so 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: hard on it and it was ruined. Just then he 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: heard a voice from down the hall. It was Santa Claus. 112 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: Santa was not happy. He had been waiting all night 113 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: for the tree to be fixed, and now it was ruined. 114 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Santa told Morbius that he would have to replace the tree, 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and he would have to do it himself. Morbius was 116 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: too tired to argue, so he just sighed and followed 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Santa down the hall. Santa put Morbius to work fixing 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: the tree. Every time Morbius tried to take a break, 119 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Santa would scold him and tell him to get back 120 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: to work. By the time Christmas morning came, the tree 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: was fixed and Morbius looked like a genius. Santa was 122 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: so happy that he gave Morbius a gift. It was 123 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: a virus that could kill any living thing. Morbius was 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: shocked and scared, but he knew he had to keep 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: the virus secret. He would use it to kill any 126 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: creatures that ruined his Christmas. Again, that is wonderful. Like 127 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I felt like that could be bound in a book 128 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: with the with the appropriate illustrations and it would just 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: fly off the shelves. I mean, yeah, that is good. 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: In fact, if I had not seen it be generated 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: in real time by this tool, I would suspect if 132 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: somebody just posted that on the Internet that like that 133 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: was one of those fake ones that like actually a 134 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: human road and they just said I fed as scripts 135 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: into an AI and it generated this. You know, you 136 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: know that joke. Yeah, yeah, but but no, this is 137 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: really by a machine would kill any living thing, and 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: he would use it to kill anything that ruined his Christmas. Again. Beautiful, 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful. I one thing I enjoyed doing. So there 140 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: are a lot of ways to play with it, you know, 141 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: putting in some sort of counterintuitive elements and seeing how 142 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: it plays out. But I enjoyed toying around and seeing 143 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: what it would do with prompts or titles that had 144 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: to do with machines writing books, because how can you resist? 145 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: And h I found one of the most successful ones 146 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: I did is that I gave it the title of 147 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: a Jorge Louis Borges story, the Book of Sands. So 148 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the Book of Sands is an excellent I think US 149 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: nine seventies short story, uh, the typical Borges and that it's, 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, more about a concept than anything. It's about 151 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: a book that is infinite, that is in another language, 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: with all sorts of strange writings. It becomes a man's obsession, 153 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: and then he realizes that it's monstrous and he needs 154 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: to destroy it. But he realizes he cannot burn it 155 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: because what happens when you burn an infinite book you 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: create infinite smoke, and it would destroy the environment. So 157 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: he has to hide it away in a place where 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: books canna be alone and left alone, and that, of 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: course is a great library. But I figured, okay, I'll 160 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: give it the Book of Sands as its title, and 161 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I gave it a little prompt I wrote, I gave 162 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I gave it the following quote. Once a scholar researching 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,119 Speaker 1: and the ancient Library of Zool made an alarming discovery, 164 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: a machine that could write books. The machine had been 165 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: writing boks for hundreds of years by the time he 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: discovered it. The scholar was shocked to see what the 167 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: subject of these books happened to be. Okay, and then 168 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the machines take over and they write the following. The 169 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: book's theme was the history of each grain of sand 170 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: on the on the beach. The scholar read the first 171 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: page of one of the books with amazement. He told 172 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the story of how a particular grain of sand had 173 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: been formed, how it had been moved by the wind 174 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and the ways, and how it had eventually come to 175 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: rest on the beach. The scholar was amazed that such 176 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: a thing was possible. He wondered how the machine could 177 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: know so much about each grain of sand. The scholar 178 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: continued to read the books and soon realize that the 179 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: machine was not just writing about the history of the 180 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: grains of sand, but was also writing about the future. 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: The machine could see into the future and knew what 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: would happen to each grain of sand. The scholar was terrified. 183 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: He knew that if the machine could see into the future, 184 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: he could also see into his own future. He knew 185 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: that the machine would eventually write a book about him. 186 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,119 Speaker 1: The scholar ran from the library and terror he never returned. 187 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: The machine is still writing its books. It has written 188 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: millions of them by now. Each book is the history 189 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: of a grain of sand. Uh, surprisingly beautiful. And that 190 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: one actually, unlike the others, which are very delightful and pleasing, 191 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: that one kind of cracks the Turing test, one that 192 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: I could see that having been written by an actual 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: human writer. Yeah. Now, of course, one thing that we'll 194 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: get into in the interview tomorrow is that of many 195 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: of the things, so a machine is not going to 196 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: match up to a human in a number of ways. 197 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: One of the key ones ways that it doesn't match 198 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: up is it has no morality. It kind of make 199 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: moral storytelling choices, and it can't uh read back over 200 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: what it's written and you know, build it up from there. 201 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: So we have to take all of that into account. 202 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: But still these results are quite impressive. I mean, I 203 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: think also they would be somewhat limited by length, right, 204 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: because these are each basically a paragraph, and it's going 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: to be kind of a dice roll, like how good 206 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: the illusion is kept up for the length of that 207 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: whole paragraph? And uh, and like, I imagine if you 208 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: get into longer and longer works, you would start seeing 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: the cracks more and more and things would start to 210 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: feel wrong. Yeah, yeah, I want to assume so. But 211 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: with this machine, I think the length limit is something 212 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: like two words, and sometimes it'll it'll stop before that. 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Other times it will seem to stop like you're really 214 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: getting it gets it gets its energy going, and then 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: you're out of words and you have to sort of 216 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: guess where the computer might have gone from there. Well. Actually, 217 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: so a funny thing about my my second Morbius Saves 218 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Christmas here was that, uh, the first time I tried it, 219 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: it stopped in the middle of a sentence. It's it said, uh, 220 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, Santa was so happy he gave more Beus 221 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: a gift. It was a virus that could kill any 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: living thing more bus was And then it stopped and 223 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I was like, well, wait, how do you get it 224 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: to keep going? So I just reinput the text it 225 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: already created, and then said create again, and sure enough, 226 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: it did give me like two more sentences. Then then 227 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: we got how he was shocked and scared, and how 228 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: he would use it to kill any creatures that you know. Ever, 229 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: ruined Christmas again. All right, well, I encourage everyone out 230 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: there listening to this, uh, tune into the episode that 231 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: airs tomorrow. Uh, and then go and check out this 232 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: website for yourself, and if you have something, if if 233 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: in toying around with it, you to create something quite interesting, 234 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: send it our way. We'd obviously love to take a 235 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: peek at what you and the machine have put together. 236 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: All right, shall we get into the listener mail proper then, Joe, Oh, 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: yes we should. I guess we've got fewer messages than 238 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: usual this week, but we'll probably have more next week. 239 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: So uh, first message, this is in response to our 240 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: episodes on Cauldrons. We did a bunch of those and 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: uh multiple time correspondent Renata got in touch. Renata says 242 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: Hi Joe Robin Seth. I enjoyed the references to Welsh 243 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: mythology in the latest Cauldron episode and would love to 244 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: hear more episodes involving Welsh mythology. I only recently became 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: aware that Wales has its own rich lore with unique 246 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: characters and stories. Of course, it shouldn't be surprising for 247 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: a culture with a long literary history to have a 248 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: full fledged mythos I was just surprised how little it 249 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: comes up. Maybe that's because the creatures and characters are 250 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: so tricky to pronounce. I could see that. Um. My 251 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: interest started from watching a mini series called The Owl Service, 252 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: which I learned about from a documentary about Full Corror. 253 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen The Owl Service, I highly recommend it. 254 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: It's on YouTube and is eight episodes long that the 255 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: quality isn't great. There appears to be a DVD on 256 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Amazon for Region two as well. The plot of the 257 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: show involves elements from the Mabinogion. The Owl Service was 258 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: also a book, but the TV series has strong Wickerman 259 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: and psychomania vibes and really catches the mood perfectly. Wow, 260 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: well we're not. You definitely know how to get my attention. 261 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Anything that is psychomania meets wicker and I'm on board 262 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: for that. So I looked this up. Uh, and to clarify, 263 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: it looks like it was I think a a TV 264 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: series in the late sixties maybe and it Oh, it's 265 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: got that sixties look. There's a guy with a tie 266 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: that is approximately seventeen miles wide and uh, and his 267 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: his hair is the flattest. I don't know it seems 268 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: worth a look. Yeah, this was a Granada television production. 269 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: Jillian Hills is in it, so yeah, this this, uh, 270 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: this sounds like something we should take a look a 271 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: look at, for sure. Renata says in the end, I 272 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: made it through all four cauldrons, enjoyed it way more 273 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: than I thought I would. But just backhanded, I don't know, 274 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: as always, thank you for the endless hours of entertainment, 275 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: best Renata. No, not not backhanded at all. I mean 276 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: four four episodes about cauldrons, and it may seem like 277 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: like that's a bit much at first, but then you realize, oh, 278 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: this it really does go deep, and it's amazing how 279 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: much we can take cauldrons for granted, you know, it's 280 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: four episodes of this, you know, all the research we 281 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: put into it, and I didn't even think of one 282 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: example of a fantasy, modern pop culture use of cauldrons. 283 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: That it was literally staring at me from not only 284 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: from the bookshelf, but at times the book was on 285 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: the bed next to me where we record, and it's 286 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: a Dungeons and Dragon's book currently in print, Tasha's Cauldron 287 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: of Everything. Uh so cauldron right there in the title, 288 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: there's some wonderful illustrations of various fantasy cauldrons in the book. 289 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: There's even a version of the Cauldron of Rebirth in 290 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: that book, ready to go in your Dungeons and Dragons campaign. 291 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: But for some reason, I'm just so used to seeing it, 292 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: I didn't even put connected. I didn't even think, Oh, cauldrons, 293 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about this week. Maybe I should 294 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: mention this book that's lying next to me. So you 295 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: have more D and D experience than me, are cauldron's 296 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: a regular occurrence within the game universe. I'm my D 297 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: and D group is actually convening this very night, and 298 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't think we have in poundered one in our 299 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: campaign yet. Um. I mean, I guess that you had 300 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: depends on I guess it's kind of encounterdependent, right, Like 301 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: if you encounter witches, Yeah, there's gonna be a cauldron, right, 302 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: and that's just that's just gonna be. It's gonna get 303 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: dragged in there. Um And uh, yeah, I know, I 304 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: don't know. There may be specific um like classic adventure 305 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: modules that that have one, classic storylines that involve one, 306 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: but certainly, uh, they're in there in the book. They 307 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: have the rules created for them, so they're they're easy 308 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to plug in, the magical ones, and he the mundane cauldrons. Yeah, 309 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: you can't have as many as you want. I mean, 310 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: your character could probably go out and buy one, and 311 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a problem for your dungeon master to 312 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: facilitate that. Let's see, if it was my character, you 313 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: probably try to shoplift one. I don't know how you 314 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: can get a cauldron out under your shirt. Oh yeah, 315 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: you would have to have some magic. You'd have done 316 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: some help from a mage to pull that off. Okay, 317 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: So Rob, do you want to get into some weird 318 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: house cinema responses Yeah, let's do it. Let's see what 319 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: do we have here? We have list your mail from Andrew. 320 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: Andrew writes, gentlemen, I was listening to your most recent 321 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: weird House Cinema episode on The Battle Beyond the Stars 322 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: this morning on my commute. It was during your discussion 323 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: of the great film composer James Horner that I glanced 324 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: up and noticed a vanity plate on the car in 325 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: front of me. It's simply read Horner. I thought this 326 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: too much of a coincidence not to write in I 327 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: have no supporting evidence for this occurrence, So I guess 328 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: you'll have to take my word for it. I believe you, 329 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: because why wouldn't I know? But Andrew continues, Also, there 330 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: was a brief mention during the episode of the previously 331 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: covered film Message from Space, wherein Interstellar nuts or seeds 332 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: transport information across the universe. This reminded me of Kevin J. 333 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: Anderson's epic space operas Saga of the Seven Sons. In 334 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: the book series, messages can be sent instantaneously by priests 335 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: who are mentally linked to massive trees from a specific 336 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: planet called world trees. As long as the tree is 337 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: a board a ship or on a planet, the priests 338 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: can send a message to any and all other world 339 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: trees in existence. Not exactly the same, but a unique 340 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: use of flora to convey information. Not sure why I 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: didn't think of it long ago. Well, that's very interesting. 342 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: I was. I'm not familiar with this series, have been 343 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: familiar with the with the author, but but I've never 344 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: read this. Yeah, I'm not familiar either. Isn't there some 345 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of like big magic tree on the Wookie planet 346 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: and in extended Star Wars canon, Yeah, they do have 347 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: a big old tree there. Yeah, there's a big tree 348 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: and uh in Avatar. Oh that's right, Yeah, I mean 349 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: that they also used that for communication. Oh yeah, they do. Yeah, 350 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's the basic idea of the world tree. 351 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, this thing that that is a bridge that 352 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: connects our world to to heaven. So it makes sense 353 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: that it would be a way of conveying messages and 354 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: so forth. And then Andrew has one last paragraph here. Lastly, 355 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: the first season of the Halo TV show recently wrapped up. 356 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: I was wondering if a Halo Tech episode was in 357 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the cards. The show was a little less than terrific, 358 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: but I enjoyed it. As an individual who spent much 359 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: of his teams in whenis playing the video games, I 360 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: am especially interested in the faster than light travel capabilities 361 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: achieved through accessing quote unquote slip space. Also, i'd be 362 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: interested to hear your take on Hawaii species. Humans who 363 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: have mastered the art of intergalactic space travel still rely 364 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: heavily on rattletrap motorcycles and souped up Dodge Magnum's to 365 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: get around on the ground. I have no Halo knowledge, really. 366 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got friends who are into it, but 367 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: I've never been an Xbox person, so I never got 368 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: access to the Halo stuff. I well, I you know, 369 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I can't complain. I got the last of Us instead. 370 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: But Rob you you've you've done Xbox, if you've done Halo. 371 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: I've never done Halo. It's weird, weirdly enough. I think 372 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: it's because when Halo was initially really big, I didn't 373 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: have an Xbox yet, and then after I got an Xbox, 374 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was just drawn to other games instead. So, uh, yeah, 375 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: I don't really have an opinion one way or another. 376 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: I remember a friend of mine telling me about a 377 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: really cool episode in the first game where you like 378 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: discover a new type of enemy. There's like you think 379 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: there's one type of enemy, but then there's like a 380 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: new parasite or something that shows up supposed to be 381 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: really scared. I remember that having an impact on gamers 382 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: and people talking about that. Yeah, so I don't know, 383 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: maybe I should pick it up. It's there are several 384 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: of those many, probably of those big game franchises that 385 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: I just I never never got around to playing, And 386 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: there's some of them where I'm kind of like, maybe 387 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: I'll play it if it if it drops to five dollars, 388 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: I'll pick it up and then and then it and 389 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: then it doesn't or then it's like, oh, we're on 390 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: a new system now, Well, if they do an HD 391 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: remake of it, I'll maybe I'll play it and then 392 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: they do an HD remake of it and then I'm back. 393 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: But it's more than five dollars, so I guess I'll 394 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: wait it out. Yeah. I remember the Sword also, right, 395 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: people talking about the Sword multiplayer, like, when you get 396 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: the sword, you're like unbeatable or something. The ultimate in 397 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: space age technology, right, yeah, rattletrap, motorcycles, dodge magnums, and 398 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: swords all right. Yeah. I don't know much about the 399 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: TV series. I remember reading that it had come out, 400 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: that it was a big deal, but I haven't even 401 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: really read reviews of it. Maybe I just know that 402 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: it would be a hard sell for family viewing time. 403 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, Okay, let's do one last Weird House message. 404 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: This is from Jemima. Jemima says, Hi, Robin Joe. I 405 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: have recently been getting really into your Weird House Cinema podcast. 406 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: It's so much fun listening to you talk about old 407 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: movies i've never heard of, then tracking them down so 408 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: I can experience the glorious weirdness for myself. Thank you 409 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: for that. Coincidentally, I've been rewatching my favorite Nickelodeon cartoon, 410 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: The Angry Beavers. Imagine my delight when you mentioned the 411 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: cartoon in one of your old episodes, and then my 412 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: horror when you said that you have seen it. B movie, 413 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: horror and sci fi parodies are a staple of the series. 414 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: You have to see it. I'm sorry, I don't even 415 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: remember what episode we mentioned the Angry Beavers in. Uh. 416 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a voice actor who who had a 417 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: crab and we mentioned because we often mentioned credits, some 418 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: of which we've seen, some of which we have. Not 419 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: that that makes sense. Uh well, okay, so Jemima continues. 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: My favorite example is The Day the World God Really 421 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: Messed Up, which is a dedicated half hour alien invasion 422 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: mind control parody starring veteran actors of the genre. Which 423 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: is how Oh I'm sorry, I should read ahead, which 424 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: is how it came up on Weird House. Oh. I 425 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: guess it still holds true that I don't remember what 426 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: episode this was, though I've linked the IMDb page for 427 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: you to check it out. I don't know how you 428 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: would feel about doing a weird house cinema review of 429 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: an Angry Beaver's mini movie. But I think you'd have 430 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot of fun talking about all the references and 431 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: homages if you did, I'd certainly enjoy listening to it. 432 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Jemima from Australia, ps. The Last Unicorn is my favorite 433 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: movie of all time. Maybe not quite weird enough for 434 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: the show, but thanks for giving it so many shout 435 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: outs and pointing listeners in the right direction. Okay, So 436 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: I look up this Angry Beaver's uh sci fi parody 437 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned, and it does have the voices of Peter 438 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: Graves and Adrian Barbou, who I think could very well 439 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: have come up in movies we covered on the show 440 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: at some point. I know we've we've made fun of 441 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: the Peter Graves monologue from It Conquered the World at 442 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: least five hundred times. Doing a quick search on all 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: my notes, it looks like it probably came up in 444 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: our episode on Not of This Earth. Oh okay, and 445 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: as I as I, as I zoom in even even 446 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: more into my notes, it looks like we were talking 447 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: about Jonathan Hayes or actually I think you you brought 448 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: up this connection and you played Jeremy a quote, no 449 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: good creep who works for the alien. Oh yeah, yeah, 450 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, so apparently did a lot of Corman 451 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: movies and then shows up in Angry Beavers. Well, so, 452 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: I vaguely remember The Angry Beavers from when I was 453 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: a kid, and I would not have expected that was 454 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: what it was about. I don't think I ever really 455 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: watched it, but it Yeah that this comes as a surprise. Well, 456 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: and now I'm interested to check it out now that 457 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: I know that they have this is a staple of 458 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: calling back to these various old movies. I would have 459 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: assumed it was a standard you know, zoinks cartoon headbasher. 460 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks for writing in. Uh. It's great 461 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: to hear from everybody here and and definitely keep it coming. 462 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear your AI generated stories. 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