1 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Bally Bett, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts, 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: All right, let's go alive on a Friday edition of 7 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: great z. This is kind of like a COVID throwback edition. 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: We're all remote. 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: It is it is. How are you doing it? Are 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: you feeling okay? 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I feel fine. Bootsy got nicked. 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: So last night, second go round. 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Second go round. Yeah, so you had a really rough 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: weekend and then he got he got clipped. Probably Let's 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: see his last practice was he's when he when he 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: turned down the opportunity to go to Lulu's and get 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: frozen yogurt with all sorts of toppings. Once that happened, 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: I said, something's not right. It's not right. If this 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: is a kid, this is a guy who does not 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: turn down a snack, yep. And if he's turning down 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: a snack, something's not right. So we took him in 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: today and sure enough, strap. Yeah. Sorry, add that to 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: the joy of what it and it basically it snowed 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: for like what it mounts about twelve hours straight. Yep, 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: did you get that? 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was supposed it was supposed to stop at 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: nine am yesterday. How's that going because it's still snowing here. 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, still not so much a relentless pursuit of more 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: snow accumulation. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: You sound better, Yeah, definitely feeling better. It's getting closer. 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: It's weird. 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: When I did the really big show this morning, I 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: feel like I sounded terrible, but right now it sounds 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm okay. 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound very good right now. Yeah, seems very solid. 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: How did that go on RBS? Do you have a 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: little fun? 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: It was good, just you know, obviously talking about the 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 5: most important thing, you know, facing this organization. That's the 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 5: quarterback position and the draft that's coming up in the 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: fact that you have the second pick in the draft. 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: So college football Natete Hayde really began about four months ago. 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: Although his knowledge is deep and vast, But can you 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: maybe help me and remind me because I don't know 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: what was the State of Colorado's program prior to Dionne. 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: And Shador and Travis Hunter going there two years ago, you. 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: Could make a very straightforward and accurate argument that it 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: was the worst college football Power five program in America. 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 5: And how many games would you say over the last 52 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: two seasons. We'll call it like even a conference take, 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: you know, when you play like some Gibbroni squad. But 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: where Colorado's talent equated to the opponent's twenty top like 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 5: in their top twenty two. 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Just do too deep where they were equal. 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: To it wouldn't say that they were more often. 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Or worse team. 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: No, No, I'd have to look at it absolutely. But 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: I think when I gave you your when we hit the climate, 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: I said that there were about four or five teams 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: last year that they would walk into a room and say, 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: all right, we can we can punch at this weight class. 64 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: Now they have two elite, elite players in Hunter and Shador, 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: and they were those two players would start anywhere. But 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: this isn't basketball, it's football, and you need to have 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: lines of scrimmage, and you need to have all of 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: the other things that are prerequisites to be able to win. 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: So I would say there were they were closer last year, 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: but probably still only half of the games they were, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: you know, at a point where they were punching their 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: own weight. The year before, in the last year of 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve, when the Pac twelve had Washington and Oregon, 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: and Oregon State was really good. That your Washington State 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: had cam Ward, they were really good that year Caleb 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: Williams was at USC, Utah was a ten win team 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: with cam Rising. I would say that in their conference 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: games they played, there probably was only one or two 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: where they were on equal footing. All the rest they 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: were punching way up. 81 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been watching. So that's some of things 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: like you should have seen. You know, whenever he played 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: a good a team that was better than him, he 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 5: was terrible. But the majority of the games he played 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 5: were against teams that were better than them, and he. 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: Was quite good. 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's people don't understand what happened there, you know, 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: like if you don't follow college football, you just don't 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: have any idea of the dire straits that program was in. 90 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: And quite honestly, the undertaking that Dion Sanders, what he 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: took on YEP and the fact that they were on 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: the cusp of the playoff this year is quite honestly 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: other worldly. I mean you've watched their games, Like, yeah, 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: I probably watched ten or twelve Colorado games the last 95 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: two years. They were the team I rooted for as 96 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: a They were the best closest team to me, so 97 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: that was my dream school. Wanted to go all of that, 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: and so I watched them very closely and probably watch 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: them a dozen times the last two years. And for 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: the most they cannot block it, and they haven't really 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: even attempted to run it because they can't block it. 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 2: They can so he just has to make things happen. 103 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: So that was part of it. 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: And then the other thing that I've run into is 105 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 5: I'm not sure people and I understand this if you're 106 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 5: typically watching the NFL. I don't think people understand how 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 5: rushing yards work in college as. 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: It relates to quarterbacks. 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: No, every sack is for whatever reason, because I don't 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 5: know why they do that. It doesn't make any sense 112 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: to me. But sacks are counted as the quarterbacks rushing yards. 113 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: So every time a quarterback it's sacked for negative ten yards, 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: it's as though they are treated as though they ran 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 5: for negative ten yards, which makes some of the totals 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 5: of say a Lamar Jackson or a Jalen Hurts or 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: even John Football back in the day all the more impressive. 118 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: Yes, but when you see a guy like Shador have. 119 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: A negative fifty yards for a season, that doesn't mean 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: he couldn't run because he picked up plenty of first 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: downs with his legs. What it means is he is 122 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: a pocket passer first and that he was sacked a ton, 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: which we know to be true. Yes, yeah, these are 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: the things that I mean the Yes, these are not 125 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: hard like Jordan Reid, who we like a great deal 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 5: and I'm sure we'll join the program. At the Combine 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 5: was sagging it. So Cam's is number one quarterback, Chaudors 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 5: is number two. He said, those two guys are absolutely 129 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 5: both starters and guys that you can build around this court. 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: He said, those are the top two in this draft, 131 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 5: and they're two that are worthy of being picked. 132 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: And he said I. 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: Would put Cam you know, kind of as the bridge 134 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: between you know, Jade and Daniels, Drake May and JJ McCarthy. 135 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: And he said chadour is would he be right there? 136 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: And you could make easy you can make basically the 137 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 5: argument to pick either one of these three guys first, 138 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 5: but Shadoor. 139 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: Pennix and Bonix. 140 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say right now, Atlanta is very happy 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: that they have Michael Pennox and Denver is very happy 142 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 5: that they have Bonex. 143 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it feels like a win. 144 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: It feels like a win. 145 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: I don't know where Todd McShay is getting is. You know, 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 5: I'm here and they're not taking a quarterback. 147 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: I had to explain this to It's funny. I had 148 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: to explain this to the boys. This is actually just 149 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: yesterday Beamsy, so he was He asked me this was 150 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: the I can't remember the exact I want to say 151 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: it had something to do with Miles, but it was 152 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: something the effect of, Dad, we're trading Miles to the Bears. 153 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: And I said, no, We're not trading Miles to the Bears, 154 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: and he said, well, yeah we are. I saw it 155 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: on Sports Center and I said, okay, so not everything 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: on Sports Center is the news. Some of it is 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: where could you see him landing? Or what spots would 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: make sense? Right? And so it it's very similar to 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: the conversation I used to have with my dad about 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: cable news that there is a difference between the news 161 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: of the day and the opinion of the day. The day, yep, 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: that the two different things. So one is this is 163 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: what happened today, the other is here's how I'm shaping 164 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: what happened, and and so that's it. So when we 165 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: have these these conversations around quarterbacks and you have this 166 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: the type of dialogue that we have about it what 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: is actually news versus what is opinion? And the thing 168 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: that drives me nuts about when you hear about like 169 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: this machine. I know we're going to play this the 170 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: mcshae bit about what he's hearing. When you put a 171 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: qualifier like what I'm hearing it, it's completely open ended, totally. 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: He could be hearing it from his barber. Yeah that's 173 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: not what he's insinuating. Sure, but that's that's what it 174 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: could be. And you see it all of the time 175 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: with with NBA trades or hearing someone's unhappy. All of 176 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: those are coming from from a place where there's motivation 177 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: for those to come from, ye, right, But it's not 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: the it's not the news. So when Todd does any 179 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 2: I'm hearing well from from whom whom, like no one 180 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: in our operation is talking to anybody. 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: I certainly would hope not. 182 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: We haven't even been able to look at people in 183 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: the eye in the lead of this, Like I haven't 184 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: seen Kevin or a b in a month. 185 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: No, I don't know, you know what I mean. We'll 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: see him at the combine, that's for sure. 187 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: But they're bunkered in man of course. So yeah. I 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: The other thing that really bothers me about all of 189 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: this is just this notion that there is that there 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: are sure things in the draft. Because there aren't. They 191 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: don't exist. Travis Hunter is not a sure thing. He's not. 192 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Do I think Travis Hunter will play in the league 193 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: for a long time? Absolutely? Do I think he'll make 194 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: it immediate impact? 195 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Sure? 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: Do I know for certain? 197 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: No? 198 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't, Yep, I don't. And I don't know that 199 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: Abdul Carter is going to be whatever percentage of miles. 200 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: We have no idea what that could be. It's it's 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: a wide range. If you just don't know until you know, 202 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: And so there isn't you have to I think you 203 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: have to. Organizationally. I'm sure they're already there, But just 204 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: from a fan base perspective, you have to get rid 205 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: of your fear of failure in the draft. Yeah, it does, 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: you know, good. 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: No, No, And it is more likely that a quarterback 208 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: taken in the top ten or twelve, and I say 209 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 5: twelve because of Mahomes or because of Deshaun Watson when 210 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 5: he came out he was twelve, And there are been 211 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: some people in that ten twelve range of them good. 212 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 5: It's just more likely that a quarterback picked there is 213 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: going to be good than a quarterback picked anywhere else. Yeah, 214 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just is these are just the facts 215 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: of the matter. Yeah, we have that opportunity. And listen 216 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: if it somehow is the consensus that they think every 217 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: the Browns is an organization think every quarterback in this 218 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: draft stinks. I mean, obviously you don't take one just 219 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 5: to do it, but I would be shocked if that 220 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: was the conclusion that they drew. Yeah, I mean, there 221 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 5: are a lot of people that writ and I've said 222 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 5: it along. I've always thought cam Ward was the more 223 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 5: talented of the two quarterbacks, just in raw talent. 224 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Sure. 225 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 5: I like Chador and I think what he is best 226 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 5: at fits very very well with what we are going 227 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 5: to be as an offense. So I like that very much. 228 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: And I think we have two excellent opportunities as a 229 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: result of that. Absolutely, So here you are, why wouldn't 230 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 5: you still do that? And I see all the things 231 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: now that they're like, oh, these guys would be quarterbacks 232 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 5: five and seven in the draft last year with bo Nicks. 233 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: So Pennix. 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 5: All right, if kirk Cousins is gone, that tells you 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 5: all you need to know about what they think about 236 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: Penis in Atlanta. Yeah, And in my mind, why wouldn't 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: they just honestly, gonness, why wodn't they just keep kirk Cousins. 238 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: They have to pay him all that money anyway, wouldn't 239 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: would you rather have it be dead money or would 240 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: you rather have him be on your team in case 241 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 5: Pennix got hurt, I'd probably the latter, you know. So 242 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: they're in a good spot. And then obviously Denver's very 243 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 5: happy with Bonnicks. 244 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's there's no certainties at any position. There isn't. 245 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of revisionist history around Jaden Daniels 246 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: that you and I have talked about at nauseam in 247 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: terms of the way he was viewed. So it's it's 248 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: circumstance that you paratroop into it's it's a minimum level 249 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: of talent that you must have, and certainly those two 250 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: absolutely have that at the top with Cam and Sure 251 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: and and then beyond that there could be others. There 252 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: could be who knows if Will Howard and what he 253 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: did the last month of his season at Ohio State 254 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: in the right spot could thrive and play for a long. 255 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: Time, bring it too. 256 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Who knows about Johnson Dart, Who knows about Quinn e Ors, 257 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel Gabriel Obviously arm strengths an issue, but you 258 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: just don't know. People like you don't get the right spot, 259 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: Like everybody in this league passed on brock Purty multiple times, yep, yep, 260 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: So nobody knew anything and he worked out just fine. 261 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: Shows that what Louisville Yeah, yeah. 262 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, people like him. Greyco Sell likes him. I'm excited 263 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 5: to talk to him about again. I'm fine with two 264 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: of them, like yeah, just as this, in my opinion, 265 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: is going to be. 266 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: A very. 267 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 5: It's a I think this is a very huge it's 268 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 5: a huge draft for this franchise. 269 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: This asset that they have. 270 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: Is one that they hope to not have maybe ever again, 271 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: and so it has to result in a real swing 272 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 5: at a rookie quarterback. 273 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: I think I agree, and I think it's also because 274 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: of the way that our roster is built and the 275 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: way that the end of the season went. It's a 276 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: get out of jail free card. Yes, it's an incredible 277 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: and this season finished. If you finished with five or 278 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: six wins, you don't. 279 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 5: Have and we're not a team that can bring in 280 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: even though I let's say the Sam darnoald or even 281 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: Baker with Tampa, where you bring him in it you know, 282 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 5: five million, they're really good and then you. 283 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: Are like, all right, I'll pay you thirty. Yeah, we 284 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: can't do that. So the idea of. 285 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: Like if we had our dome already, Cousins and Shador 286 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: would be and I think that would be electric. 287 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: Cousins. 288 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 5: I'd have no problem with saying, Okay, we can bring 289 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: him in, he can start even right away, But we 290 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: don't have a dome. No, So a Cousins makes me 291 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: a little nervous coming here at this stage in his career. Yeah, 292 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: I like I've been a big fan of Kirk Cousins. 293 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: I have benefited from his abilities in fantasy football for 294 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: many years. But that even at if you get his best. 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Are we a team that's going to go compete for 296 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: the division with Kirk Cousins, I don't know. Are we 297 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 5: going to compete for the super Bowl? 298 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: No? 299 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: And he certainly doesn't have a long term future here. 300 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: I mean that's obvious. 301 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah. 302 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: I think the idea of being able to have a 303 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: rookie quarterback on a rookie deal that becomes good solves 304 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 5: a lot of our problems from a money standpoint, from 305 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: just the fact that we need a quarterback period standpoint. 306 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: So you know, I want to see it. The idea 307 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: that you take a defensive player and we're going to 308 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: go through a mock today, that I'd be very happy 309 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: with the outcome. I don't see it happening in the 310 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: real world either, But I also wouldn't want to pick 311 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 5: at number twent quarterback at number twenty two. Again, No, 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,359 Speaker 5: that's an O for three for us. 313 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: You need. 314 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: You have this opportunity, You have this opportunity, if you 315 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: have the if you there is clearly and you could 316 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: go talk yourself in the negatives of both of these 317 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 5: guys for sure, but there are enough positives that with 318 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 5: this coaching staff, the two time coach of the Year, 319 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 5: Tommy Reese, Bill Musgrave, You've got to feel like you 320 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: have an environment that can get the best out of 321 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: these quarterbacks. 322 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: Dude. It's a quarterback friendly offense. It is a I mean, 323 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: just look at how quickly Purty came along. Yes, are 324 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: highly intellectual. You get schemed open, yeah, and it's flip 325 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: ahead and throw it where you're supposed to yea. And 326 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: the guys who can do that thrive. And Yeah, for sure. 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: You talk about Musgrave, think about what Tommy did with 328 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: Milroe at Alabama. You think about all of the things 329 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Bill Musgrave's seen in his career. We know what Stefanski 330 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: did and what the offense was like at various points 331 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: with Kevin. One of Baker's best seasons his first year 332 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: with Kevin. So all of those things check out, and 333 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you on all of it, and I think 334 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: it's I think it's an incredible opportunity, and I think 335 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: it's a get out of jail free card. And I 336 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: think it's one of those things where what was going 337 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: to seem quite daunting, and it is. You're a three 338 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 2: win football team. You've got to own what you are, 339 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: and that's what you are. But what seemed like a 340 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: very difficult long time to get back to being really 341 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: excited about a team heading in the right direction can 342 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: get flipped now in April, right back into being very 343 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: excited about all of it and having not only just 344 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: the excitement in terms of everything comes with that, but 345 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: also from the standpoint of now perhaps a long term 346 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: final answer at the position. 347 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so yes yes. 348 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: By the way, enough from the clown wants to know 349 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 5: what Gibbe thinks. Gibbe, what is your stance on. 350 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: The Camry's trying to keep his head above water? Fucking sick? 351 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Not get sick? Is right? 352 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: Uh? 353 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 4: You can tune in next week to the debut of 354 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: the bp A, Oh baby, there you go. 355 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: Who's Who's on? 356 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: When's that dropping? 357 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: Uh? Well, I have two episodes next week from the 358 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: NFL Combine. 359 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 5: Who is it that you're gonna start taking all the 360 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: good guests for you? 361 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: You and who else? 362 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 363 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: Mister Siciliana will be joining me this year? 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, look, give me a quarterback. 365 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: Please that. 366 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: We're all on the same page. We're on the same page. 367 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 3: We are we are? 368 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: Do you think that you guys will have the just 369 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 5: raw passion the almost nuclear power chemistry you were all 370 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 5: worried about, excuse me, the electric Yes, the the Ibbs Boys. 371 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: Is this going to be a new Is this going 372 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 5: to be a new gang that we have to contend 373 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: with Gibe and Siciliano. 374 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for. 375 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: That, dude. 376 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: I forgot about the Ibbs Boys. 377 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: Due the boys were formidable boys. 378 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: The gang. 379 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, still one, still one of the greatest on my 380 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: out takes folder, because there is a folder of a 381 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: lot of things. The Grant delp It the first time 382 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: he ever appeared on anything, and Bo reading Bo going 383 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: like it's the last segment of the show. I was like, Hey, 384 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 4: be sure to tune into best podcast available this week 385 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 4: on the bp A. The hell I'm going to read 386 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: that the next levels next, you and you were done that. 387 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 3: It was appropriate. 388 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: No one even knew, no one even knew who was 389 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: going to be. Yeah, he was our guy, Like that 390 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: was the guy we had to I mean, we love 391 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: delp It. He was our guy. Next, I know he's 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: on the b p A. 393 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: What call him? Because the Ibbs Boys worked so it 394 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: was so natural. 395 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'll find one. I like Billy Gabillianobi 396 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: like you like your knees on our team. Some news 397 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: of yesterday from Jeremy Fowler. Dewan Jones reportally received recently 398 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: underwent Arthur Spopik knee surgery to address and lingering issue 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 2: he played through last season. 400 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 401 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: This is an edition of the Recovery from the fractured 402 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: left fibula. Jones expect you're ready for the start of 403 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: training camp. This is Duan's at a point where in 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: some of the it's a no fault of your own 405 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: if you're injured or not, but availability has got to 406 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: be top on the on his list of abilities. 407 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 5: This show totally. But I like the fact that you 408 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: know what you know that you have a rehab coming 409 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: back from what get everything. Get yourself as fixed and 410 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: ready as you can be. You know, because we saw 411 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 5: even you know, Joel a couple of years ago, who's 412 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: an absolute iron man, and stud thought I can get 413 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: through this. I better get the scope, you know, during 414 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 5: the bye week, I should be able to be back, 415 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: and then ended up missing that game against the Niners. 416 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: Take care of it all in the off season. Take 417 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: care of all of it in the off season. 418 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we see Duan all the time, so we know. 419 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: Ye the way we knows good good spirits. 420 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you watched hockey last night? 421 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: I did. I sure did. 422 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: By the way, when's the last time that I watched a. 423 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: Hockey game like that? 424 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? 425 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 5: I don't have a recollection for you. So what I 426 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: did was, well, you watched this. I even watched some 427 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: of the pregame. I was digging it. Miss k was blowing, 428 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: She's like, what hockey? Huh, Like, you haven't heard about this? 429 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: I'm curious. I hope that it did well. I mean 430 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 5: it feels like it did. It was an electric atmosphere. 431 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 5: So I watched this, and then I have to shout 432 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 5: out whoever the listener was that told us that Severance 433 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: actually drops at nine pm Easter Thursdays. Because so I 434 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: watched the first period, one second period. I was able 435 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 5: to throw on the second TV while Severance was on, 436 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: and at least glance oversee the two to two third period, 437 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: watched live which was no goals, and then obviously watched 438 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: overtime live. But that's certainly the most continuous hockey I've 439 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: watched in a I don't know, maybe ever, could be 440 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: potentially could be ever. 441 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome. By the way, Severnce 442 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: last night, that episode also awesome. 443 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: Jeez, it's just are you aware? This is the thing? 444 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are aware of this. Yeah, 445 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: do you know when this event was created? The Four 446 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: Nations face off this year? It was announced a little 447 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: more than a year ago. Announced, Yeah, they did. They 448 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: weren't even sure exactly what the format would be. No, 449 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: and they just knew that they were going back to 450 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: the Olympics in Italy in twenty twenty six, and the 451 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: NHLPA wanted to do best on Best more often, and 452 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: so they created this. They they created this event. I 453 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: mean that trophy that Sidney Crosby got last night, that 454 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: is a trophy that I mean, like on the day 455 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: of the game, we're like, oh my god, we got 456 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: to get a trophy. Go down to the trophy store 457 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: because he carried it around like it was the cup. 458 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: It just made it up, like it's not like it's 459 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: been around for one hundred years, Like it was a 460 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: made up trophy at a made up event. But when 461 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: you get there's so many things that worked for him. 462 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: One you get a hole after the Super Bowl, or 463 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: there's a window, you get an NBA that didn't take 464 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: its All Star weekend very seriously. So you have opportunity there, 465 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: and then you get a little bit of just luck. 466 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: Like if if the game between Canada and the United 467 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: States on Saturday, does it start with three fights? 468 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: Does the game last night have the attention or the 469 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 5: US winning? So one twenty six straight international contest with Sidney. 470 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: Crosby, Yeah, those is for that loss to the US. 471 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you get the fights, you get the USA winning, 472 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: and then you get the rematch. We're not watching if 473 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: it's USA Finland or USA Sweden. Now you certainly aren't 474 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: maybe I mean, but probably not. You're definitely not watching 475 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: if it's Canada against the other two or the two 476 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Scandinavian countries. So the only way that it works the 477 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: way that it did is if you have what happened 478 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: Saturday with US beating Canada and starting with fights. The 479 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: fights were a huge part of it. That created a 480 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: lot of attension, and then you get the rematch in 481 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: the final. 482 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 483 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: So it was the perfect storm for them. 484 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 5: Yep, it really was. And it was incredibly captivating television. 485 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 5: The pregame was awesome, and I thought what was so 486 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 5: interesting about it is. They even said kind of in 487 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 5: the locker rooms before this started, nobody knew really what 488 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: it was going to be. But it was like something 489 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: snapped when they started playing for their country and they 490 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 5: went at it like it was the Olympics or the 491 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 5: World Cup of Hockey, which, yeah, is that still a thing, 492 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 5: the World Cup of Hockey? 493 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: Or is that they were bringing it back? So they're 494 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: gonna The way that they set this up is they're 495 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: going to do one of these every two years, so 496 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: they'll have a best on best competition every two years. 497 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: So this year was the Four Nations. Two years from 498 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: now will be the Olympics, twenty twenty eight will be 499 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: the World Cup, twenty thirty will be the Olympics again. 500 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: So they're going to set it up to where there 501 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: is best on best every two years. And I think 502 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: that's brilliant. I think it's like cake. You don't want 503 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: to you don't need to eat the whole cake, a 504 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: piece of have a piece and it's spectacular and then 505 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: I'll see in a little bit that's the way they 506 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: got to treat this thing. 507 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: So when will the Four Nations be again? 508 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know because a bit Obviously, 509 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: one of the nations that would have been in this 510 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: and would have been a favorite, a co favorite with 511 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Canada is Russia. Russia, Yeah, and they can't they can't compete. 512 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: So at some point it probably will go beyond four nations. 513 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: It'll probably go to eight. And maybe that's how they 514 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: just shoehorn the World Cup into it. But no, it 515 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: was spectacular, and it was I mean, it was almost perfect. 516 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: And I understand that there's not a ton of crossover, 517 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: but obviously the Monsters are here and they're an affiliate 518 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: of the Blue Jackets. So Micah Ruzioni, who scored the 519 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: goal game winning goal for the eighty Olympic team, he 520 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: came out in a Johnny Gaudreau jersey. Yes. And then 521 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: in the third period, the Blue Jackets former winger was 522 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: honored with chance of Johnny hockey going around the stadium. Yeah, 523 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 2: And so that and then to Zach Warinsky, who's a 524 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: superstar defenseman for them. He had the puck on his 525 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: stick with a laser at net in overtime. Not quite 526 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: as good as the two Austin of Matthew's chances, but 527 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: it was pretty good chance and he just missed. So 528 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: it was so close to perfect. 529 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: First of all. 530 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 5: First of all, it was gripping, riveting television, the overtime 531 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: and the US to your point, had so many chances. 532 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: But you've got to give some props to the goalie 533 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 5: for Canada because the couple of those glove saves like 534 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: glove saves like perfect snags are incredible when they I 535 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: don't know about you, but I guess because I am 536 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: not a seasoned hockey watcher, it's sometimes hard to even 537 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 5: know where the heck the puck is it is. 538 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the biggest problem for the sport 539 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: in terms of going over to the non hockey fan 540 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: is for people who don't watch a lot a lot 541 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: of hockey, you can't You don't even know where the 542 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 2: puck is. 543 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: You only know really if it goes in based on 544 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 5: their reactions. You can't actually like. 545 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: You can't see it now in the arena. You can 546 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: see it, sure, sure, but on television, even with HDTV, 547 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: they've never been able to get They tried that tracer 548 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: thing for a while and that does distracting, but it 549 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: was their goalie and I'm gonna dip into my hockey not. 550 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: Why why while you while you talk about the goalie. 551 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: A certain certain friend of ours reached out and you know, 552 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that you two were able to 553 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: bask in his joy and glow and keV if you 554 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: can go ahead, if you have that standing by, if 555 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: you want to talk about the Canadian goalie. Oh, certain 556 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: someone sends his regards. I wanted to make sure that 557 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: we we. 558 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: We were on our text chain with them. 559 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: We gave him as props, so we got to Now 560 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: we're doing O Canada. 561 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: What are you doing, gibe, I'm. 562 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Just saying my hand was forced, guys. Favorite. First of all, 563 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: I love the Canadians. 564 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: It's a wonderful I love I love a little Ricord's 565 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: read and a little Mulson Canadian. 566 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: Let's go. 567 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: They didn't even allow you in and you're playing their 568 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 5: anthem now on our show in the United States of 569 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: America on a day. 570 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: Where we lost the Canon. 571 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: Hockey is allowed into the country. I'm allowed into the country. 572 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: You were held up once. 573 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: Well up, yeah, that was one of my idiot friends. Look, 574 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: so he just he just wanted to send his regards. 575 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: I bet he did. I bet he did. I'll tell 576 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: you hey, by the way, that same fine gentleman. At 577 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: some point there was a jersey bet that I made 578 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: with him where the Blue Jackets were playing the Leafs. 579 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: That was in COVID. I'm still waiting to be paid 580 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: up on that. I mean, that's been a while. If 581 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna start calling out debts. That's the 582 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: easiest goal Connor McDavid has ever made to win a 583 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: hockey game in his life. How the best player on 584 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: the planet is not guarded. 585 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: He wasn't marked at all. 586 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: It was just the easiest flick of his life. It's like, 587 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: of all the people you cannot lose, number ninety seven 588 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: is the one don't lose him. 589 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: So before I was rudely interrupted by. 590 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 5: Somebody, somebody who was probably celebrating the closing of Hooters today, 591 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 5: a non patriot, non patriot. That's like, still stunned. I 592 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: was going to dip into my my hockey knowledge. 593 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and. 594 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: He I thought that performance was reminiscent of the dominator 595 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 5: Dominic Hashik. It was reminiscent of the wall Archers Urbe 596 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: when he was at his best with the San Jose Sharks. 597 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 5: Patrick Wah, Patrick Wah, Come on, baby, a little Ronnie Hextall. Yeah, 598 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: Olie the Goalie, Eddie the Eagle. I mean, this was 599 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: that guy. That is a what he did in that overtime, 600 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 5: had a strong knowledge from the in the mid the 601 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 5: through the nineties just from playing the game. Yeah, which 602 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: was a great source of income for college need. 603 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: What a star. It's a star. That guy is going 604 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: to be a hero forever. The goal it was because. 605 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Really one of their biggest weaknesses throughout. 606 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 5: Was totally totally but he showed up in the biggest 607 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 5: moments because there were three real shots that he made. 608 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: Bonker saves on absolutely. 609 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think the one thing that the one 610 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: lesson Americans can learn is in an overtime of an 611 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: international competition and final against Canada, as good as he 612 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: may be, you do not want the puck on the 613 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: stick of a Montreal Canadian Austin Matthews twice, Baby Bury 614 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: one send one home, Send one home. 615 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: Body as an elite goal scorer sixty plus. 616 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: Send one home, I know not so much so, but 617 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: it was great. It was It was really good. And 618 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 2: it's a it's a good job out of the NHL 619 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: to be able to capitalize on this because they absolutely have. 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Todd McShay, 637 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: NFL Draft analysts, formerly of ESPN, now at The Ringer 638 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: and a part of The Todd mcshae Show, had this 639 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: to say about what he's hearing about what the Browns 640 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: could be doing at number two. 641 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 6: They're not pulling the trigger on a quarterback here too. 642 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 6: I've heard from multiple sources, the same multiple sources that 643 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 6: they don't believe that this is the year to do that, 644 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 6: that they're not a quarterback in this class away had 645 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 6: it been last year's class. 646 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: They feel really good with that in mind. I went 647 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter. I've both heard. 648 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: In this scenario, I think Cleveland could take Travis Hunter, 649 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 6: the cornerback wide receiver out of Colorado. 650 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: I also want to say this, I've now heard. 651 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: From from two different people that Kirk Cousins could be 652 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 6: brought in on the cheap this offseason kind of as 653 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 6: a stopgap, a. 654 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: Stopgap for what to where to, where to win? End? 655 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 656 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 5: Here's the trade down, take Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, krap 657 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 5: When are you going to actually address the quarterback position? 658 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: If not now, when and how? 659 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 5: And by the way, there's no guarantee this works out, 660 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: but if it doesn't, then you're going to do it again, 661 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 5: getting that stopgap quarterback that puts you into the nine 662 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: and eight best case scenario ten and seven bounced in 663 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 5: the first round bounce in the divisional round, then you're 664 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: never where are you getting this quarterback? 665 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: When are you getting this quarterback? And how? When is 666 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: when are you going to be in a position to 667 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: land one? Do you know? The Just think about the 668 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: sheer luck that it took for the Baltimore Ravens to 669 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: land Lamar Jackson. 670 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 671 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: Just think about that. Think about the Pittsburgh Steelers, who 672 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: haven't had a losing record since Tomlin's been there, but 673 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: haven't won a playoff game as recently as we have. 674 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 2: They landed Roethlisberger and they've been chasing it since, yep, 675 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: because there's only so much you can do without it. 676 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: When I hear people say that this isn't the year 677 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: to go get it, and maybe this is their belief, 678 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: like you don't just take a guy to take a guy. 679 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: But the problem here with the McShay mock, and probably 680 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: this one that we're gonna get into from Tom Fournelli 681 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: as well, is I'm pretty sure the mcshave mock has 682 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: Schadur going third. It does, so if it's good enough 683 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: for the Giants at three and they're thrilled about it, 684 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: why wouldn't it be good enough for the Browns at two. 685 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: Or the Raiders at six, where Tom Brady is convinced 686 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 5: that he has the skills that are necessary to be 687 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: an elite quarterback. Like now, the mock that we're gonna 688 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 5: talk about in a second, I just I don't see 689 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: that happening. 690 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: If it did, great, but I don't. 691 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 5: First of all, I don't actually not great because I 692 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 5: don't want trade Miles Garrett. 693 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: But let's go through that. So here is that this 694 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: is a mock from Tom Fernelli as CBS Sports. It 695 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: has us taking Abdul Carter number two overall, and they write. 696 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 5: The Giants going to one to take cam Ward. Right 697 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: by the way, if we're if we're let's just say 698 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 5: and this is we're just I'm playing hypothetical. 699 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 3: Okay, let's just say that. 700 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 5: Cam Ward is we only like cam Ward and get 701 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 5: to number one, because I'll tell you what we were 702 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 5: in this exact scenario in the year twenty sixteen, when 703 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 5: all we liked was Jared Goff and we let somebody 704 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 5: else jump us. 705 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: If we're that convinced that it's cam. 706 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: Ward only, and we're worried about somebody jumping us for 707 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 5: cam Word or worried about Tennessee taking him. And by 708 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 5: the way, if Tennessee's willing to trade, that means that 709 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 5: they're not taking quarterback, as I. 710 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: Read on it to be honest, I agree. 711 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 5: Yep, then just give you some give well, find we'll 712 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 5: give you a second and twenty six and you have 713 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 5: the second pick of the draft, still your pick. 714 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: You still get You're gonna get the same player you 715 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 3: would have picked the first. Yep. 716 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 5: No, just do it then, because when the Rams jumped 717 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 5: us for Jared Goff and he took them to a 718 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, we then traded out. We traded back to eight. 719 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 5: We then traded back from eight to sixteen. We ended 720 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 5: up with Corey Coleman and a bunch of stuff that 721 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 5: didn't matter mean anything for us. 722 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: Right, No, I'm with you. 723 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 5: Have because those extra picks became I think pick. That's 724 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 5: why we had the two extra first the next year, 725 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: but we didn't take the quarterback. Even then, we didn't 726 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 5: take the quarterback. We had three first round picks that 727 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 5: year and didn't take quarterback till the second round in 728 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 5: Sean Kaiser, who needed to go somewhere else or play 729 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: behind an actual bridge veteran. 730 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so they've got the Giants coming up for Cam. 731 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: He does. Then he has us taking Abdulla Carter and 732 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: writes the battle for the best player in this classes 733 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: between Carter and Hunter. After Cleveland trades Miles Garrett, it 734 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: drafts his replacement while picking up an additional draft capital. So, 735 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: according to him, the trade that he put together was 736 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: us trading Miles to the Chargers for the twenty second 737 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: overall pick and more draft capital, and using the twenty 738 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: two pick on Schadueur Sanders, who, as he writes, somehow 739 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: is still on the board. Didn't plan for this, but 740 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: with Shduur Sanders slipping, Cleveland's able to replace Miles Garrett 741 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: with its first pick of the day and then snake 742 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: quarterback of the future with one of the first that 743 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 2: got from the Chargers in the Garrett trade. 744 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 5: All right, First of all, I don't think Chadur is 745 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 5: going to be on the board at twenty two. Second 746 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 5: of all, if the Browns are going to trade Miles Garrett, 747 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 5: and again I said, don't believe they will. They don't 748 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 5: want to. It's it's not gonna happen till after June first. 749 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 5: It's not gonna happen in time for thisft. So there's 750 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 5: a lot of this that doesn't make sense. It should 751 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 5: the Raiders, the Giants, they would it's I don't see this. 752 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 5: I don't see this scenario happening as it as it unfolds. 753 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: No, No, but look, I mean, this is the time 754 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: of year where you know you're putting. There's the first 755 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: mock that comes out before the Senior Bowl. Usually everybody's 756 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: second mock comes out right before the Combine. Then there 757 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: will be a third mock that comes you know, right 758 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: around free agency, and then there will be a final 759 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: one that happens in April. But to the point of 760 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: Shuder Sanders slipping, he would have to slip. Just think 761 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: of this, bud not only so they trade out a 762 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: one Tennessee, does they go down to three? So then 763 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 2: they wouldn't take him at three, right, So they would 764 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: pass on him at three, The Raiders would pass on 765 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: him at six, the Jets would pass on him at seven, 766 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: the Saints would pass on name at nine. That's four 767 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: like kind of need quarterback now, and they're all going 768 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: to pass. I don't see it. 769 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: I just don't. Yeah, I don't see it. 770 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think that's that's largely nonsensical on that 771 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: side of things. Around the AFC North, he had the 772 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 2: Bengals taking Ty Warren the tight end out of Penn State, 773 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers taking quarterback John A. Barron out of Texas 774 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: he was the Thorpe Award winner, and then the Ravens 775 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: taking a defensive end out of Ole Miss at twenty seven. 776 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: So there's where you stand on that. We'll go around 777 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: the sports world. 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Seven times first Team All Pro guard 788 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: Zach Martin is shutting it down. He's gonna walk straight 789 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 2: in right. He's the new benchmark for guard. 790 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 3: Straight in Yeah. 791 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 5: Tied for the most First Team All pros ever at 792 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 5: the guard position, with seven of them. There was a 793 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 5: crazy stat and I know Joe Thomas posted about it. 794 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 5: I posted about it that he has more first team 795 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 5: All pros than he has holding calls that were accepted 796 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 5: in his career nine All Pro selections, so I guess 797 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 5: that's counting second team. So nine All Pro selections, seven 798 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 5: accepted holding penalties in his career. 799 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing. That's like that. There's like a Tony 800 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 2: Gwyn stat like that about the amount of times he 801 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: struck out. Oh yeah, nuts, Yeah, you get those ones 802 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: that just defy all logic. 803 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 5: Hoff said, I'm having a hard time even believing it. 804 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 5: I think I had more than seven holding calls in 805 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 5: my crew that were falsely attributed to me. 806 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: I guarantee you the Hoff can remember every single holding. 807 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 3: Call that was against him. 808 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: I promise you. 809 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 5: I've seen the Hof receive a lot of good news 810 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 5: and be in a lot of awesome situations. The happiest 811 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 5: I've ever seen him was at the joint practices in Philadelphia. 812 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 3: When we were standing there. 813 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 5: It was me, Hoff and Lane Johnson and Sarah Thomas 814 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 5: came over to talk to our group, and she told 815 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 5: him that she had gone back and watched some of 816 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 5: his tape and that she was wrong for calling some 817 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 5: of the false starts on him that she called it 818 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 5: was like he had been told, I mean, oh my goodness, yeah, 819 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 5: like and even said, this is the greatest moment of 820 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 5: my life because I know, because he's like, I know. 821 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: I know, I didn't fall start. 822 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's like he was so happy that she 823 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: said that. 824 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: That is great. In the baseball world, the Yankees have 825 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: changed a team policy that has stood in place since 826 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. This bottom will now allow well groomed beards. 827 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 2: Now I have had a beard since I've stopped doing 828 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: daily television. I enjoy it tremendously. Not shaving every day 829 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: is great. But at the same time, this is a quirky, 830 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: worrid little thing that they have that I'm gonna miss. 831 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 2: I kind of like the idea that this is how 832 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 2: they did it. 833 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: I agree. 834 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 5: It's insane to me that it ever that it was 835 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 5: a rule, but since it was, it is it is cool. 836 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 5: It's kind of like they're the traditional stuff, right. They 837 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 5: don't have names on the back of the The unis 838 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 5: no part of it is I think part of it's 839 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 5: pretty I like that. 840 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. I liked that like when a 841 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: guy when like Garrett Cole went there, you can go there, 842 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 2: but you gotta shave it. And Randy Johnson too. Yep, 843 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 2: they did amend it to where I think they could 844 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: always have mustaches. Was that correct, because didn't Well Manningly 845 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 2: wore a mustache there? 846 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Donnie Baseball definitely had a man a mustache. 847 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, mustaches were allowed. Yeah, mustaches were allowed, but no 848 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: beer facial hair. 849 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 850 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so no beards or rather, so I'll miss it. 851 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: I think it was a silly rule to your point 852 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: to begin with, But I do think it was kind 853 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: of like their silly, quirky rule, and I was kind 854 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 2: of for it. Is this a monster story in the 855 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 2: sports media world. ESPN is opting out of their contract 856 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: with Major League Baseball. This will start in twenty twenty six. 857 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: The network will no longer broadcast Major League Baseball games. 858 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: ESPN asked Major League Baseball to accept a lower licensing 859 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 2: fee because the broadcasts are in losing money on the 860 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty million a year deal. After the 861 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: talks broke down, ESPN triggered its opt out claws to terminate. 862 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: The contract was due to expire in twenty twenty eight. Now, 863 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 2: Manfred went on the attack with this and got quite 864 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: personal with it a little bit, so obviously he's pretty 865 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: salty about it. 866 00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 3: Yep, this is. 867 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 2: It tells you where all the rest of these sports 868 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 2: are nationally, that some of these providers, some of these carriers, 869 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: these partners, these television partners, these streaming partners, they accepted 870 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: too high of a rate for what they're getting back 871 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: in terms of ratings and Major League Baseball, the NHL, NBA, 872 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,959 Speaker 2: they are incredibly regional sports. If you have a team 873 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 2: in your market, you cared dramatically about it, but you 874 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: don't care about teams that aren't in the market other 875 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 2: than the diehards. Diehards will watch anything, but the casual 876 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 2: sports fan doesn't. And really only NFL college and college 877 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: football second. They're the only two that are maintaining or 878 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 2: growing audience. 879 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: Right. 880 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 5: And what is interesting is that deal, though I think 881 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 5: I saw a tweet about this, pales in comparison to 882 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 5: what they're paying for the NBA, Yes, which can't possibly be. 883 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 2: The one thing NBA and this is the only thing 884 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: that I'm curious about the NBA's kind of the worldview 885 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 2: of the NBA. Yeah, maybe provides more value, and I 886 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: don't there probably isn't a worldview of baseball. There's a 887 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: far East view of baseball, but there isn't a worldview. 888 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: And I also don't know the distribution. I'd be out 889 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: of my depth to try and talk about what rights 890 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: ESPN has on baseball around the world compared to what 891 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: rights they have on basketball around the world. But that's 892 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: my guess. That's why the NBA, even though they're paying 893 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: dramatically more for it, is something that they're they'd rather 894 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 2: stay in the business with. That's my guess. 895 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: Yep. 896 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 4: Well, and now they're going to have the inside the 897 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 4: NBA crew the team. 898 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 3: I know that's going to cost a ton of money. 899 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what I mean what I the 900 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 5: number I saw was that the NBA contracts five x 901 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 5: out of the baseball contract. 902 00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 903 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: I think it's two point five, isn't it. 904 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 905 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just trying to figure out the last time. 906 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I think my entire life, Sunday Night Baseball 907 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 4: has always been ESPN always. 908 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that's Johnny Miller and Joe Morgan, Harold 909 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 2: Reynolds after that. Yep, yeah, I mean that was it. 910 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: It was Sunday Night Baseball. 911 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's pretty crazy. 912 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah's monumental change. Baseball is gotta be careful too. I 913 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 2: mean you can ask the NHL what happens when you 914 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: go at it alone and you end up in a 915 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 2: closet and you don't have I understand, it's not what 916 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: it used to be. You know, in terms of cable subscribers, 917 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 2: it's there was one hundred million six seven years ago. 918 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: There's sixty some million now. I get it. It's less, 919 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: but at the same time, it still has the biggest 920 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: reach of any entity in sports entertainment by far, and 921 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: to not be in business on ESPN is a tough 922 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: thing for Major League Baseball. 923 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 4: Well, and given the recent debacles with the regional TV packages, right, 924 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 4: you know, I mean the fact you couldn't watch a 925 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 4: Guardians game, right unless you went somewhere it went to 926 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 4: a bar, or you had to have one like you 927 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 4: had to have one different specific cable company to go 928 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 4: on one. 929 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely so yeah, all right, second hour of 930 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 2: the program coming up next. We continue our tour around 931 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 2: the AFC with the defending AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs 932 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: gets his perspective on that. Coming up next. The mailbag 933 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 2: is open as well today. Final Hour of the week 934 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 2: coming up next Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, 935 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: official sports winning partner Your Cleveland Browns on a fifty 936 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland. 937 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports 938 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight to fifty 939 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland. 940 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 2: All Right. Second Hour here the prom on a Friday edition. 941 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: We continue our tour around the AFC off season preview 942 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: in season review with Jesse Newell, thea Kansas City Start 943 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 2: joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline presented by Twisted 944 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 2: Tea Hard Iced Tea, official sponsor of Your Cleveland Browns, 945 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: Keep It Twisted, Cleveland. Jesse, thank you so much for 946 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: taking the time. Let's just start with this notion of 947 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: not winning the final game in Kansas City. How did 948 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: that sit with the roster, how did that sit with 949 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 2: the coaching staff in terms of what happened in the 950 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 951 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean it's disappointing obviously. I think the 952 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 7: biggest thing for the Chiefs. And you know this is 953 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 7: you know, obviously first world problems here in Kansas City, 954 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 7: but you know, the chance for history. I mean, they 955 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 7: had the chance to do something in a fifty to 956 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 7: fifty game, to do something nobody ever done. But obviously, 957 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 7: you know, frustration with how it turned out and I 958 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 7: don't think anybody really imagined it was going to be 959 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 7: that kind of blowout. So it sort of does reset 960 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 7: what potentially they'll be looking for in free agency in 961 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 7: the draft, just based off how that game played out 962 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 7: and how poorly it turned out for the Chiefs offensively 963 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 7: in that particular game against the Eagles. 964 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 5: What changes do you expect coming out of this for 965 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs team that's not used to this 966 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 5: type of a scenario. It's happened twice both times kind 967 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 5: of similar to the offensive lines. But what do you 968 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 5: see coming out of this the big takeaways that this 969 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 5: team needs to address to get back to the top. 970 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's complicated. You know, the Chiefs have kind 971 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 7: of the winner's curse here where they don't get to 972 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 7: draft high up in the draft, which is where you 973 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 7: want to draft your left tackles of the future, and 974 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 7: so they've been stopped gapping this for a while, whether 975 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 7: it was trading for Orlando Brown junior for a couple 976 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 7: of years, or you know, trying to plug and play 977 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 7: a third round pick or a second round pick in there, 978 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 7: whether it was juan Ye Morris or kings Lee Suamataia. 979 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 7: But I mean, we saw this scenario play out after 980 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 7: Super Bowl fifty five where Mahomes was running for his 981 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 7: life and they didn't have the offensive line, and basically 982 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 7: the GM Brett Beach came out and said, you know, 983 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 7: this isn't going to happen again, and so they went 984 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 7: and did reinforce our offensive line. I just don't know 985 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 7: how they do it right now. It's really complicated because 986 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 7: free agency there's not much out there. They already have 987 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 7: a lot of money tied up into their offensive line 988 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 7: right now. When you look at Creed Humphrey and Joe 989 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 7: Tooney and Juwan Taylor, they're already paying a lot of 990 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 7: money to those guys. And then it's a bad offensive 991 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 7: line for draft and for the draft. And plus, I mean, 992 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 7: even if the Chiefs wanted to get up in the 993 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 7: draft to you know, the fifteen range or something, I mean, 994 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 7: you're talking multiple first round picks, because to get from 995 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 7: thirty one to fifteen takes a lot of draft capitals. 996 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 997 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 7: What they do here, to be honest with you. I mean, 998 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 7: it'd be nice if they could find some sort of 999 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 7: stop gap and maybe get themselves to next year and 1000 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 7: try again with the draft. But it is a weird 1001 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 7: scenario for them to be in with this particular Super Bowl. 1002 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 7: But I thought that they need defensive linemen. They're losing 1003 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 7: a bunch of free agents there, they need a receiver, 1004 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 7: and then they don't have much room and salary cap 1005 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 7: and they've got a bunch of guys that are going 1006 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 7: to free agency, whether it's Justin Reed, the safety Nick Bolton, 1007 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 7: Trey Smith, who could reset the guard market. So it's 1008 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 7: a tough narrative to be in. But it sure seems 1009 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 7: like at the end of this offseason, somehow, some way, 1010 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 7: the Chief's gonna have a new left tackle. 1011 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the guy that they're going to protect, 1012 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: and that is one of the greatest to ever play 1013 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 2: the game. Last two seasons, though, have been quite a 1014 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: bit different than the seasons that preceded it in terms 1015 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 2: of Mahomes, who will turn to thirty by the time 1016 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: we get into the first month of the season next year, 1017 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 2: did what is what did you see from him this year? 1018 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: And is there any interest? Obviously winning his paramount and 1019 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 2: they've won everything that, all the one score games, all 1020 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: of it. I mean the Super Bowl was kind of 1021 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: the one off. I mean, they are who they are. 1022 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 2: But in terms of is there any sense of getting 1023 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,399 Speaker 2: back to or will they ever return to the high 1024 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 2: flying Chiefs that we saw for so many years with Mahomes. 1025 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really good question. They have definitely changed 1026 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 7: and you look at some of the advanced measures like 1027 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 7: averaged up the target for him, he's been down at 1028 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,479 Speaker 7: the bottom of the league last couple of years. After 1029 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 7: when he entered the league he was like second, you know, 1030 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 7: brown it chucking it way down field. We all remember 1031 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 7: that Mahomes. I think a couple of things are at 1032 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 7: play here that we need to talk about when we're 1033 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 7: talking about that, you know, I think it's a compliment. 1034 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 7: He can adjust his style of play to be what's 1035 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 7: best for the team. And the last couple of years 1036 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 7: the Chiefs, whether it was you know, a couple of 1037 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 7: years ago with the receivers, they had kind of a 1038 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 7: makeshift group, or last year where they had Rashi Rice 1039 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 7: who was looking like he was going to have just 1040 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 7: an amazing year going down with injury, and then Hollywood 1041 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 7: Brown went down in the preseason with injury. I mean, 1042 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 7: those were the two main guys in training camp, and 1043 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 7: so all of a sudden, you're sort of asking your 1044 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 7: scheme to work for you, you know, rather than your individual players. 1045 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 7: And so some of this is by design. Some of 1046 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 7: this is kind of making up and masking for other 1047 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 7: things out there. We got to mention left tackle too. 1048 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 7: I mean, the Chiefs were trying to mask for some 1049 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 7: left tackle issues as well late in last season when 1050 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 7: they moved Joe Tooney from left guard to left tackle 1051 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 7: as well. So I think part of that's going on. 1052 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 7: Part of it is and we hear often the Cordnator 1053 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 7: Matt Naggey talked about this all the time, which is 1054 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 7: very interesting in Mahomes, which is he studies so much 1055 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 7: and he understands defenses so much that like if he 1056 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 7: sees a shell out there, a shell defense, and he knows, Okay, 1057 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 7: I've got this guy going deep, but I can't throw 1058 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 7: it because I know there's going to be a defender there. 1059 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 7: I know some of what the Chiefs want from him 1060 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,040 Speaker 7: is to be like, just let the play readout, you 1061 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 7: know what I mean, Let it go a couple seconds. 1062 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 7: See if xavier' Worthy, he's the fastest guy in the NFL, 1063 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 7: can still outrun that corner. And you saw them out 1064 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 7: in the super Bowl when they got down you know whatever, 1065 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 7: it was forty to six, where he just decided, you know, 1066 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 7: they're way down, it's time to take chances. And they 1067 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,439 Speaker 7: took some chances, and all of a sudden, xaviery Worthy 1068 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 7: is coming down with these contested catches, these bombs in 1069 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 7: the end zone. It's almost like a light bulb went 1070 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 7: off to say, maybe there's more of this available even 1071 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 7: when it's not opened. Patrick Willmmes has not been a 1072 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 7: contested catch quarterback in his career, but I do think 1073 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 7: they're going to push him next year to be more like, 1074 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 7: you need to take a few more chances, especially with 1075 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 7: this Worthy guy who can run by defenses. Now we'll 1076 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,399 Speaker 7: see if they signed Hollywood brown back, he was only 1077 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 7: in here for a one year deal. But if they 1078 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 7: had both those guys back and orra she Rice, I 1079 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 7: would see more weapons. I would see them passing downfield 1080 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 7: more often. But I think some of this is a 1081 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 7: mindset for Patrick Mahomes, where he's just so good at 1082 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,959 Speaker 7: reading defenses and take taking what they give to him. 1083 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 7: He doesn't want to risk the football when maybe there 1084 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 7: are times out there where you can selectively take chances 1085 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 7: and try to hit on some big plays. They really 1086 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 7: didn't hit. 1087 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 3: On many this season. No. 1088 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 5: One of the reasons, I think, in addition to that 1089 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 5: was it seemed like Travis Kelce maybe lost to half 1090 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 5: of a step, which is not surprising given his age 1091 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 5: and how dominant he has been. What do you think 1092 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 5: about Travis Kelce, his future and how much longer we'll 1093 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 5: see him in a Kansas City Chief's uniform if at all. 1094 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got one more year of a contract. Obviously, 1095 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 7: he's gonna got a decision to make and got about 1096 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 7: a month to make it if he wants to help 1097 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 7: out the Chiefs with their salary cap situation one way 1098 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 7: or the other. I do think we'll see him one 1099 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 7: back back for one more year. 1100 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 3: Guys. 1101 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 7: I he loves the game, he loves being on his teammates. 1102 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 7: Part of what his issue is is he's such an 1103 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 7: example for the younger players like if you looked at 1104 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 7: the reports, like the injury reports for the Eagles and 1105 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 7: the Chiefs going into the Super Bowl, like two weeks out, 1106 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 7: like the Eagles rested half their roster, you know, that 1107 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 7: first week just to get guys ready, and Okay, if 1108 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 7: you're a veteran, you take a rest day. And that's 1109 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 7: like the total opposite of what Travis Kelce does. He 1110 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 7: takes every repord practice. If you're supposed to run to 1111 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 7: the end zone, he runs to the end zone after 1112 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 7: catching it, and so that takes wear and. 1113 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 2: Tear on your body. 1114 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 7: And we saw him last Super Bowl, you know, two 1115 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 7: years ago when they want it, you know, he kind 1116 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 7: of bounced back. He had this rejuvenation in the playoffs 1117 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 7: all that sort of thing, and we didn't quite see 1118 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 7: that this Super Bowl from him. So he is getting older, 1119 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But I do think for him, 1120 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 7: it's either one year or retire now. And I think 1121 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 7: when he comes down to it, he's going to realize 1122 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,839 Speaker 7: that for himself, he loves the game, he loves being 1123 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 7: on his teammates, he loves me in the locker room, 1124 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 7: and I think there's more he can give, whether it 1125 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 7: from a leadership standpoint or a liable target standpoint. We 1126 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 7: know that him and Mahomes have such good chemistry on 1127 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 7: the football field. I think I'll give him one more 1128 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 7: go around. He'll retire after that, and if that happens, 1129 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 7: I think the chief should be thrilled with that, because, 1130 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 7: like I said, he serves so many purposes for them. 1131 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 7: Doesn't break tackles like he used to, doesn't get the 1132 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 7: yards after catch, but still a really useful player for them. 1133 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 7: And obviously the chemistry between him and Mahomes is something 1134 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 7: we haven't seen in the NFL for quite a while. 1135 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 5: How was our guy Kareem Hunt while he was there? 1136 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 5: It was fun to see him back with the Chiefs 1137 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 5: and obviously we loved him when he was here in Cleveland, 1138 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 5: but playing well for the Chiefs especially you know, kind 1139 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 5: of down the stretch. 1140 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was really a revelation for them. I mean, 1141 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 7: I love talking to Kareem first off, Yeah, in locker 1142 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 7: room and you know, wrote a story about him, and 1143 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 7: you know, he was pretty open with how you know 1144 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 7: he tried so hard to get the Browns of Super 1145 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 7: Bowl because as we know his history, you know, he 1146 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 7: was he came in the league as a rookie with 1147 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes. You know, they got bounced from the playoffs 1148 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 7: that year. Then the second year was when he was released, 1149 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 7: and you know, the Chiefs went on and made a 1150 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 7: bunch of Super Bowls after that. So he was pretty 1151 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 7: open about he tried to get the Browns to that 1152 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 7: same place, thought he might never not ever have it happen. 1153 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 7: And then you know, gets the call for the Chiefs 1154 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 7: this year and gets his opportunity and obviously relish in 1155 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,919 Speaker 7: that opportunity. So you know, we talk about God getting older, 1156 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,919 Speaker 7: especially for a running back. You know, you're twenty nine, 1157 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 7: you do as a step and don't have that quick 1158 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 7: burst like he once did. But you know, he was 1159 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 7: their best running back at the end of the year. 1160 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 3: Isaiah p. 1161 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 7: Toiceco battles some injuries, and Kareem you could just always 1162 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 7: count on if there were two yards there, he could 1163 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 7: get four yards. If there were four yards, he'd get 1164 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 7: six yards. And he wasn't breaking many tackles, but he 1165 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 7: also was picking the right lanes to go to and 1166 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 7: so I think that was one of the coolest stories 1167 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 7: of the chief season, honestly, for him to get that 1168 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 7: second chance, for him to come back to Kansas City, 1169 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 7: and I'm going to be so open about what it 1170 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 7: meant to him. He was pretty emotional throughout this whole 1171 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 7: process about being able to get to a super Bowl. Well, 1172 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 7: see was the future olds for him. He's another free 1173 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 7: agent obviously with the Chiefs and taken back a thirty 1174 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 7: ye old running back might not be something that they do. 1175 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 7: But it was pretty from a personal standpoint to know 1176 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 7: the redemption story that he could tell for himself to 1177 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 7: get back to a super Bowl when he thought that 1178 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 7: might not be possible. That was one of the main 1179 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 7: themes of the twenty four to twenty five season for 1180 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 7: the Chiefs, and it was very interesting to see a play. 1181 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 2: Out look Jesse. As long as you have mahomes and 1182 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: you have read but especially the first one, you're going 1183 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 2: to be in the mix. What does the checklist? What's 1184 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 2: the dream off season look like for them to get 1185 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 2: right back to where they are and then you know, 1186 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 2: bring it home the way that they weren't able to 1187 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 2: this past year in the Super Bowl. What's the perfect 1188 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 2: offseason recipe? 1189 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, like I said, they don't have any salary cap dollars. 1190 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 7: I know the salar CAP's going up for everybody, So 1191 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 7: I mean it gives the Chiefs a little breathing room, 1192 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 7: but you know, still not great. I mean, listen, when 1193 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 7: you draft well and these guys get older, like guys 1194 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 7: like Trent mcduffies do for a new contract extension, George 1195 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 7: carloftis got to pay your own guys. And then I 1196 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 7: just mentioned all those guys that they drafted, like Trey Smith, 1197 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 7: Nick Bolton. You know, you can't pay everybody, and they've 1198 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 7: been paying other guys top of the market, whether it's 1199 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 7: Chris Jones on the defensive line or Creed Humphrey at center. 1200 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 7: There comes to a certain point where your money runs out. 1201 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 2: But I think, I. 1202 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 7: Mean realistic perfect offseason is for them to find some 1203 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 7: sort of stop gap at left tackle and then go 1204 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 7: high in the draft on defensive line interior to help 1205 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 7: out Chris Jones, to have another pass rush threat there, 1206 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 7: and then potentially be able to sign one of those 1207 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 7: other free agents, whether it's Nick Bolton, Justin Reid or 1208 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 7: Hollywood Brown. But again, you're really stretching your budget to 1209 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 7: get all of that done, and that's kind of a 1210 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 7: best case scenario. 1211 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: So these are. 1212 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 7: Sorting of some of them. 1213 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 2: Again. 1214 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 7: The first four of problems, the curse of the winning 1215 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 7: Super Bowls and drafting late. I'm sure thirty one other 1216 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 7: organizations out there would love to have these sorts of issues, 1217 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 7: but that's sort of with the chief space right now. 1218 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 7: And if they get all three of those things done, 1219 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 7: then it would probably be a really good offseason. 1220 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: Jesse, great stuff. Thank you so much for giving us 1221 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: some of your times. They greatly appreciate it. 1222 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 7: All right, thank you, guys, appreciate it all right. 1223 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: There he goes Jesse Newell of the Kansas City Star, 1224 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 2: joining on the Twisted T hotline percent of by Twist 1225 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: T hard iced tea official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns. 1226 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 2: Keep it twisted Cleveland. All right, let's hit some of 1227 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: the categories on the Chiefs. Look, as long as you 1228 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: have mahomes, you're in the mix. They have a chance 1229 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 2: to have a lot of weapons back. I mean, you 1230 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 2: get Rashey Rice back next year, like they've got a 1231 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: chance a healthy Pa Checko. They're not going anywhere. They're 1232 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: gonna be right there in the middle of all these things, 1233 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 2: and that people are gonna want to play there too. 1234 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 2: That's the other part of it. 1235 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 3: Give people take a discount to you know this is 1236 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 3: the championship. 1237 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: All right, favorite Chiefs uniform, doctor Z. 1238 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 5: I do like their all whites white over white with 1239 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 5: the red helmet and you got the red numbers with 1240 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 5: the yellow outline. 1241 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: I like those. 1242 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 5: I like their red over white as well. I don't 1243 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 5: love the all red as much, even though I'm typically 1244 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 5: I'm not a chromatic guy. 1245 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 3: I don't like that all red. 1246 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 5: But the the white over white with the helmets is 1247 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 5: very nice. 1248 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 2: I like how the Hunt families like, Yeah, we're not 1249 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: doing anything else. This is it where the Kansas City Chiefs. 1250 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: This is what we look like and and that's what 1251 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: we're going to continue to look like. So yeah, they've 1252 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: got very clean uniform. Yeah whole I'm gonna amend this one. 1253 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 2: What former Kansas City chief would we want as a 1254 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: third co host if we were to host Kansas City 1255 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Chiefs Daily, So you can have anyone from the chief's 1256 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: history to co host with us. 1257 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 3: So we hosted case d Joe Montana. 1258 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 2: What if he was just even if he was terrible, 1259 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,439 Speaker 2: could you even talk? 1260 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 5: He wouldn't be terribly, be great, Golden Gem, he'd be awesome. 1261 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Analysts like Steve Young was. He's not he's not who 1262 01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 2: who's that. We've got a lot of good ones to choose. 1263 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 5: The powers of Resurrection and bring Derek Thomas back to 1264 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 5: be our co host, that would be a noble thing 1265 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 5: to do. 1266 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Len Dawson would probably be the easiest because he was 1267 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: a big be broadcaster, huge bee and he's an Alliance 1268 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 2: Ohio guy, So that would uh, that would be cool. Yeah, 1269 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 2: they've got a lot of them that they could. I 1270 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 2: have not flown into the Kansas City airport. What am 1271 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: I dealing with? You haven't either, You just fly commercials. 1272 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: So have you ever flown in there commercially? Oh yes, I. 1273 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 5: Don't think emmerly. I've flown with the team. But there's 1274 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 5: a second airport that's like close to downtown that we 1275 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 5: don't fly into. 1276 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 3: That looks nice. 1277 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 5: Kansas City just it looks like you're in like the 1278 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 5: Cold War Eastern Black Europe. I mean, that's a lot 1279 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 5: lot of concrete building. It's very strange. So it's very strange. 1280 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 4: Good for the entertainment, the light district. You have yourself 1281 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 4: a night. 1282 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 2: I've not. I've only driven through Kansas City. I was 1283 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 2: there once for a college football game Florida State played 1284 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 2: Iowa State. Oddly enough at Arrowhead like in the early 1285 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 2: two thousands actually be pretty cool. Yeah, it was cool, 1286 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 2: but I don't we didn't stay in the city. We 1287 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,479 Speaker 2: stayed out, and so I don't really have any point 1288 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 2: of reference on like Kansas City. I've only been to 1289 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 2: like the stadium area, and you drive right through there 1290 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 2: on the interstate. Yep, so good. There are ways out. 1291 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 4: Logistically, it's a pain because you land at the airport 1292 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 4: and it takes like thirty five minutes to get downtown 1293 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 4: and then it takes another twenty to twenty five minutes 1294 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 4: to get from downtown to the stadium. Yeah, like it's 1295 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 4: spread out. 1296 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would think it would be I mean 1297 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 2: this kind of all folds together with the road trip, 1298 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 2: Like would would this be a fun place for Browns 1299 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 2: fans to road trip to. 1300 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 5: It's it's very cool to see the stadium and experience 1301 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 5: Arrowhead and all of that, but it's not. 1302 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 3: It's it's not a top half of the league'sstination. 1303 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's cool, and I think it's 1304 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 4: the ultimate tailgate because. 1305 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: There are no bars. That's a good point, Gibbe. It is. 1306 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 4: It is just a giant parking lot that goes for 1307 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 4: miles and it's just one big party that's probably is 1308 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 4: always outstanding there. 1309 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is good and I think the 1310 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 2: ultimate tailgate is a good way to put it. And 1311 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: again I've not been to a Chiefs game. I've only 1312 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 2: been to a college football game. But yeah, it was like, oh, 1313 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 2: there's no restaurants here. Yeah, we're we're tailgating it up. 1314 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 5: It was twenty years after you remember Gibbe when we 1315 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 5: played the year that we did the season opener there 1316 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 5: and it was we were a four to twenty five 1317 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 5: Eastern I want to say kick. We were the afternoon 1318 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 5: we were like the national kick That was twenty twenty 1319 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 5: one Week one, and we had to go in early 1320 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 5: to like I had to do TV early, like six 1321 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 5: hours before kick, and you went it and there are 1322 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 5: already people in line get into the parking lot even 1323 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 5: though it wasn't even open, and it was like impossible 1324 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 5: for us to even get in there. 1325 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 4: So that year that was this is the idiocy of 1326 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 4: the NFL post Then the in the year after COVID 1327 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, like I could be around the 1328 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 4: players Monday through Friday, but I wasn't allowed to travel 1329 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 4: with the team. We can only have three people on 1330 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 4: the team plane, so we put the broadcast team on 1331 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 4: so they would guarantee, so they would fly us into 1332 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 4: Kansas City. The girl couldn't leave the hotel. We're going out. 1333 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 4: We're going out to restaurants. We're like, you know, I mean, 1334 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 4: we landed. I'm like, let's go get some barbecue. Let's 1335 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 4: go hang up. So we had to fly into the airport, 1336 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 4: but that required us then on game day we couldn't 1337 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 4: be on the buses, so we had our own driver 1338 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 4: for the weekend, the Great Debt. 1339 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 2: Of the Department. 1340 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 3: It driver. 1341 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, we had a driver. 1342 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 4: They had my name in lights waiting when we got 1343 01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 4: off the I'm like, if this is how the whole 1344 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 4: season going to go, this is going to be dangerous. 1345 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Is definitely a better scenario for you. 1346 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for me on countless trips. 1347 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 5: Because then we would then spend you and I and 1348 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 5: Jim would spend five hours together in a small box 1349 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 5: of a booth. And in Kansas City, it's a box 1350 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 5: of a booth with no open windows. Windows don't even 1351 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 5: It's just they can't come out. 1352 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 2: The dumbest press box because they're on. 1353 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 5: An angle, you'd like fall out and so, but then 1354 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 5: we could go back and get on the plane, and 1355 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 5: you had to go your own way, Like. 1356 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 4: I back on a commercial flight. And by the way, 1357 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 4: you can't fly direct into the city, so I had 1358 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 4: to go Kansas City to Atlanta, Atlanta to Cleveland. 1359 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 5: Probably had to come back on a Monday on that one. 1360 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 5: You kind to come back after that game. 1361 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 2: No, we we stayed. We had dinner. 1362 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 4: Like Shelby who was in our community relations department, She's like, hey, 1363 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 4: I need a ride to the Like on game day, 1364 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 4: we had to go at God, it was like eight 1365 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. Because the driver was like I can't, 1366 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 4: Like we're gonna have to wait in traffic, and he's like, 1367 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 4: I can't guarantee you I can get in. So our 1368 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 4: driver had to sit in the parking lot for ten hours. 1369 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 4: We like snuck him out food. We I'm like, what 1370 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 4: else can we bring? He goes, I packed some peanut 1371 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 4: butter and jelly. I'm like, screw that, there's like food here. 1372 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna run stuff out to you. So he was 1373 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 4: parking like the Limo lot, which was not close after 1374 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 4: the game, by the way, after the game. Is that 1375 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 4: the game where Mahomes is like wapping us up as 1376 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 4: he's leaving. 1377 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm like, I'm not. 1378 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 4: Even allowed to be near you. But okay, my Connectxon 1379 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 4: thing is probably going off, but you just came up 1380 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 4: to me. 1381 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 2: So everybody leaves. 1382 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 4: We have to wait till everybody leaves so we can 1383 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 4: walk out. But I go to call our driver. I go, hey, 1384 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 4: you know where do where do we gotta go to 1385 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 4: find you? He goes, great news, just come out of 1386 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 4: the tunnel, just come out. We walk out of the 1387 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 4: entrance and he's parked in Andy Reid's parking spot. I'm like, 1388 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 4: I guarantee this is not legal. He's like, come on, 1389 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 4: let's go. 1390 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 2: Let's go, dude, fellas. I mean, next week will be 1391 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 2: the five year anniversary of that. That combine was the 1392 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 2: last thing before COVID ever happened. No, and I think 1393 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 2: we knew it kind of in the moment that it was. 1394 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, crazy, the world all flipped, all right? Which 1395 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs player not named Mahomes would you want on the brownsie? 1396 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 3: Chris Jones? 1397 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best. I was thinking about a case 1398 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 2: for rache Rice weapons weapons weapons, but yeah. 1399 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 3: No, I love weapons. 1400 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably Chris Jones, who is your favorite chief 1401 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 2: all time not named Joe Montana. I love how you 1402 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: circled back there. 1403 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 5: The ones that I remember the most Derek Thomas and 1404 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 5: then the Nigerian Nightmare Christianakoye. 1405 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 4: On super Techmo. Christiana Koye verry word together formerly very word. 1406 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 2: Christian Okoya doesn't get the glaze that Bo Jackson gets 1407 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 2: on super Techmobile, but he ought to. There's actually a 1408 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 2: place where you can see like they're rating and his 1409 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 2: his break tackle was one hundred yep. And he was 1410 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 2: you he was. You would bounce off him the way 1411 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 2: you bounce off of bow except and he was almost 1412 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 2: as fast he was he was. Koya was unbelievable. 1413 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 5: I would also add to that list Tony Gonzalez. Big 1414 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 5: Tony Gonzalez fan. 1415 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm a big Patrick Mahomes fans. Patrick Mahomes the first, 1416 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 2: not necessarily the way they do it now the last 1417 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,839 Speaker 2: two years, but the first five years of his career 1418 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 2: was as fun as I've ever had watching somebody play 1419 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 2: the position. Just to throw from any arm, angle, every platform. 1420 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 2: He just changed the way you watched the quarterback position 1421 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 2: because stuff that you have never seen anybody else do 1422 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 2: he could do. He doesn't do that as much anymore. 1423 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 2: And I thought, actually he gave a pretty good answer 1424 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 2: when I asked him that about will we ever get 1425 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 2: back to the old mahomes and how do you get 1426 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 2: back there? Or do they even want to get back there? 1427 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 2: Who knows? But he's a different quarterback now than he 1428 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 2: was three years ago. 1429 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 4: Yes, can we also bring back from a radio interview 1430 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 4: standpoint a wide receiver that played for the Chiefs and 1431 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 4: well was on our roster for a year about ten 1432 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 4: years ago. 1433 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 2: Oh Dwayne Oh, boy boy. 1434 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 3: Dwayne Bow. Dwayne Bow. Doesn't know why Dwayne Bow didn't play. 1435 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 2: He don't know. I don't think he knows. I think 1436 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: he might know a little bit more. 1437 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to random artifacts I've got in my house 1438 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 5: from my Brown senior. I have an autographed Dwayne Bow jersey. 1439 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, are Chief's jersey? No, Brown's 1440 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 2: Brown's Dwayne Bow that was like, that's a good one. 1441 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 3: And it's one of the like strain that's when you 1442 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 3: know we were in those strange unis. 1443 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, yeah, all right, there you go on 1444 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. We play a little thing or 1445 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,600 Speaker 2: not a thing. Still going to open a mailbag for 1446 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 2: you as well. You're listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily presented 1447 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 2: by Bally beat official sportsmanning partner Cleveland Browns on a 1448 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 2: fifty ESP and Cleveland. 1449 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally bet An official sports 1450 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP 1451 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 1452 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 2: He Coup Serious Lawyer, Serious Injuries called one inner elch 1453 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 2: Ohio for a free case from you, elkinox Prown partner 1454 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 2: of your Cleveland Brown's Time to play a little thing 1455 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,879 Speaker 2: or not a thing. Hello Gibbe Hodie boys. 1456 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 4: Good to see you, buddy, A pleasure. Good to see 1457 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 4: you all from Afar. Yeah, it's all right. Better to 1458 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 4: be safe than sorry. We all healthy. Next week. 1459 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 2: I got a coach I'm coaching third grade basketball tonight 1460 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 2: in which my kid is not playing in a nice 1461 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 2: seven o'clock for four Yeah, he's out. He's out till tomorrow. 1462 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,640 Speaker 2: Hopefully I need him back. I said you got to 1463 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,560 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow ten am. Buddy, can't be no pressure. 1464 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 2: Come on, I need you put me twenty four hours. 1465 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 2: When when did you When did he come down? Yesterday 1466 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 2: and he's been on he's been on his protocols since 1467 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:29,759 Speaker 2: this morning. 1468 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's twenty four hours. You're good. Yeah, Yeah, 1469 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 4: away we go. Do you think it would be. 1470 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 2: Do you think it would be beneath me to have 1471 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 2: my fifth grader, Beamsy suit up as a third grader 1472 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 2: and act like he's a third grader? 1473 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 4: It depends on the team you're playing and the parents 1474 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 4: associated with said team. 1475 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 2: They wouldn't know it's a TV. But are these are 1476 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 2: these people? 1477 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 3: No? 1478 01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 4: No, no, I mean are these people the the youth parents. 1479 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 2: That you oh, no, great people. It would just be 1480 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 2: comedy to just unleash a fifth grader on a third 1481 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 2: grade basketball game, absolutely, and just let him run them up. 1482 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: It'd be pretty wild. So I like a video of that. 1483 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 2: They both wear the same number. Who would notice? 1484 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,440 Speaker 3: No one, nobody. 1485 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 4: We got a little thing er not a thing. And 1486 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 4: you guys will have the NFC part of this again Monday. 1487 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 4: But this was from ESPN Bold moves for every NFL team. Okay, now, 1488 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 4: our bold move, according to him, would be to. 1489 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 2: Not trade Miles Garrett. Well, duh, that's that won't be 1490 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,759 Speaker 2: so bold. We're good. 1491 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure we've said not happening. So neither here 1492 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 4: nor there, But there were a few that definitely stuck out. 1493 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,879 Speaker 4: All right, So thing or not a thing for the Bills. 1494 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 4: One bold move, he says, blow the Bengals out of 1495 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 4: the water with a T. Higgins trade offer. 1496 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 5: I don't think that's a thing because I don't think 1497 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 5: they would send him there. 1498 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 2: It's a great point out of you. 1499 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 5: I just that doesn't that doesn't seem like a thing 1500 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 5: to me. Like the Patriots say, probably if he leaves 1501 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 5: in free agency, he leaves in free agency. But if 1502 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 5: they're trading him, my guess as they're trading him to 1503 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 5: the NFC, not to somebody that they see as direct 1504 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 5: competition to their ability to get to a Super Bowl. 1505 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna end up keeping him in Chase. 1506 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 2: They should think. 1507 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,439 Speaker 3: They're gonna more million dollars than they thought they were 1508 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 3: gonna have. 1509 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're gonna end up with keeping him 1510 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 2: in Chase. Is the So I'm gonna say, not a thing. 1511 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't think this is a very slim's to no 1512 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,679 Speaker 2: chance of this happening. 1513 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 5: And by the way, teams don't make trade offers. It 1514 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 5: just would be so hard to make a trade offer 1515 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,760 Speaker 5: that significant and then have to pay the guy. 1516 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, no, I get it. 1517 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 4: Uh thing or not a thing for the Jets trade 1518 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 4: wide receiver Garrett Wilson. This is a team that's probably 1519 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 4: gonna cut Adams, DeVante Adams and Allen Lazard before it's 1520 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 4: all said and done. But I mean, Wilson was in 1521 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 4: eligible for a big contract extension, probably around thirty million 1522 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 4: a year. 1523 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 2: So he's he's played three seasons of the league. He's 1524 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 2: over a thousand yards every year, eighty three catches, ninety 1525 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 2: five and then one on one last year, so he's 1526 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 2: over an over a thousand. He's the offensive Rookie of 1527 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 2: the Year from twenty twenty two. I don't think that 1528 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 2: you should be in the habit of trading really good players. Yeah, 1529 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 2: so I would not do this. I would say not 1530 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 2: a thing. 1531 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 5: I do think it's a thing, just because there's been 1532 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 5: so much smoke about it and that maybe he wants 1533 01:15:54,200 --> 01:16:01,439 Speaker 5: out himself if that's true, you know, maybe, but I 1534 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 5: would I if I were the Jets. 1535 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 3: No, sorry, you're not going anywhere. 1536 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 4: No neither, uh up, next thing or not a thing. 1537 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 4: The Bengals one bold move should be to trade defensive 1538 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 4: end Trey Hendrickson. 1539 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,439 Speaker 2: If one year left on the contract. Yes, and you're 1540 01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 2: in the same spot they were in with Higgins, right Like, 1541 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,680 Speaker 2: you trade for thirty years old and then you got 1542 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 2: to get him a contracts great. 1543 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 5: Season the same, It would not have the same penalty 1544 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 5: with it. 1545 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think of the three, he's the least likely back. Yeah. 1546 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 4: Bengals only have six draft picks, so they're saying, build 1547 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 4: up the draft picks and retool defensively. Since you're putting 1548 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 4: all your money into the offense. If you're bringing back 1549 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 4: both wideouts and you have. 1550 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Burrow, they have a lot of stuff they got to 1551 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 2: sort out on the defensive side. In addition to all 1552 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 2: this suff it's a monster. Their offseason is far more 1553 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 2: pre sure packed than even ours because they got a 1554 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 2: quarterback who's saying, you better prove to me that I 1555 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 2: was smart and signing this extension with you. Yep, and 1556 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 2: I need to see. 1557 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 3: It yep, yep. I mean if I'm then you figure 1558 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 3: out a way to keep them all. Yeah, that's it. 1559 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 5: You figure out a way to keep all of them up. 1560 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 4: Next on thing or not a thing. The Squealers trade 1561 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 4: for quarterback Matthew Stafford. 1562 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 3: No, not a thing. 1563 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 2: I don't see any scenario where Matthew Stafford, who would 1564 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 2: be giving I think a great deal of voice in 1565 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 2: if he is traded, where he's going, where he would 1566 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 2: choose to play someplace that wasn't climate controlled or predominantly 1567 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 2: nice weather. I just don't think he would ever have 1568 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 2: an interest in that. 1569 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 3: Agreed. 1570 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 5: Agreed, and you're going again, You're going to a a 1571 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 5: very difficult division. Like I know that the what we 1572 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 5: talked about yesterday, Indy is a place that actually makes 1573 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 5: some sense to me. Good receiver, talent, great running back, 1574 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 5: they've been close, good defense, Dome division is you know, 1575 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 5: they got to feel like they could compete with Matt Staffer. 1576 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 5: They have Mattaffe, they feel like they can compte with 1577 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 5: the Texans and the Jags. Titans still seem far away. 1578 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Not a ram. 1579 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 5: I don't get it. Why would he just not be 1580 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 5: a ring? Jeremiah thinks that if he goes anywhere, he's 1581 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 5: going to the Giants. 1582 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, his brother in law is like communications person there 1583 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 4: or something. 1584 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 2: Geez, get the brother in law communications shop with the ring. 1585 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 2: Oh no, he's the Giant's new assistant QB coach. Sorry, Okay, yeah, 1586 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't see it. I think he's 1587 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 2: a ram I do to. 1588 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna skip the Texans trade for Garrett Wilson. I'm 1589 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 4: also gonna skip the Titans smart not selecting a QB 1590 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 4: at number one. I think we made the argument for us. 1591 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 4: I think the same probably applies for the Tennessee Titans. 1592 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 4: Go get your quarterback. You have the number one pick 1593 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 4: in the draft. Don't overthink it. To the AFC West, 1594 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 4: we go. The Kansas City Chiefs cut tight end Travis Kelcey. 1595 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 4: The Chiefs would say it would only cost them two 1596 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 4: point five million in dead money while saving them over 1597 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 4: seventeen million on the salary cap. 1598 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 3: He's earned, He's earned more than he gets. Go out 1599 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 3: on his terms. 1600 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 2: If he's done, then he'll be done on his own. 1601 01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 2: They're not They would never embarrass him on the way 1602 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 2: out the door. 1603 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 4: Too high quality an organization. I would agree. Final one. 1604 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Chargers, they're bold move for the offseason 1605 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 4: raid for one tyreek Hill. 1606 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 3: Love it. 1607 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 2: I love that. I just wonder what that what would 1608 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 2: that that trade look like? What is the what is 1609 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:16,839 Speaker 2: the give to get Tyreek Hill? Last year six touchdowns. 1610 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 5: Hey, I'm coming off of a down. Yere a little 1611 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 5: bit of a male content. If I'm the Chargers and 1612 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 5: I'm trying to make a serious run at a receiver, though, 1613 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 5: I'm talking to the Jets. Give me Garrett Wilson. If 1614 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 5: Garret Wilson really is available. That's also the Garret Wilson 1615 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 5: he got. Lad McConkie got young guys that can be 1616 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 5: with you know, Herbert for a long time. That's that's 1617 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,680 Speaker 5: much more interesting to me. 1618 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like that too. How old is dk 1619 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 2: metcalf young still? He's twenty seven. Yeah, and there's talk. 1620 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 4: That he could be available to Yeah, the Seahawks. It's 1621 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 4: the bull move for the Seahawks is to blow up 1622 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 4: the wide receiver room and inject some fresh things in there. 1623 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,720 Speaker 2: I'd like to see him with Herbert Io. Yes, give 1624 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 2: him a big target on the outside. 1625 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1626 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's they're ready to go. They're a receiver away 1627 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 2: from being absolutely ready to go. All right, there you go. 1628 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 2: A little thing or not a thing on a Friday. 1629 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,439 Speaker 2: Coming up next, we'll open up the mail bag. 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It's presented 1638 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 2: by the Cross Country Mortgage Company, official mortgage partner of 1639 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,679 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. When it comes to financing, they'll always 1640 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 2: get you home. Visits CCM dot com today, equalizing our 1641 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 2: opportunity NMLS three zero two nine. Hello Gibbe, gentlemen. 1642 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 4: Hi, uh, we had a few We had a few 1643 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,480 Speaker 4: extra questions left over and wanted to get to them. 1644 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 4: Also some comments Brown's backers North Jersey. Hey Bo, Sorry 1645 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't get answer to your Tony soprano question from yesterday. 1646 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 4: I was glad someone did tweet in a response. Have 1647 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,120 Speaker 4: a great day, and once again I apologize. He also 1648 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 4: says maybe mcshae, referring to Todd McShay is hearing things 1649 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 4: from Bill Tobin's mailman, who's as qualified as Mel Kiper Junior. 1650 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 2: Good nice drop in out of him. Uh the Sopranos. 1651 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 2: Sam had several people send it to me. It was 1652 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 2: a it was a a pickled or it was a 1653 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 2: vinegar red pepper, vinegar peppers. It was capacola, which is 1654 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:51,599 Speaker 2: gabba ghoul. It's provolone, a little bit of olive oil 1655 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,840 Speaker 2: and some onions and there you go. So sounds pretty good. Yeah, 1656 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds I could be a win. 1657 01:22:59,200 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 3: This. 1658 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 2: Just to suck that the down though, like you get 1659 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 2: that whole sandwich in one. 1660 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 4: Mit yep, oh yeah, nope, I would agree. Let's see 1661 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 4: what else did we miss here? Can from the Clown 1662 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 4: tweeted at us. Yes, yeah, boy, Yeah. What's the most 1663 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 4: unusual item you own that has a good story behind it? 1664 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 2: You got on? 1665 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 3: I do so. 1666 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 5: When the Mis was a part of the greatest tag 1667 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 5: team of the twenty first century with John Morrison, they 1668 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 5: were embattled in a feud with a very well known 1669 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 5: wrestling family from Puerto Rico, the Colognes. 1670 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 3: Okay, and the Colognes. 1671 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 5: Were they were talking a lot of trash, so they 1672 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 5: did a video where they made fun of the Colonnes, 1673 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 5: except they were referred to them as the Colons. And 1674 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 5: when they did this, they were wearing masks that appeared 1675 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 5: to be buttocks. I had wigs on the masks. It 1676 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 5: looked exactly like the two guys. So one guy had 1677 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 5: like a big thing of hair, the other one had 1678 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,640 Speaker 5: a little thing of hair and a mustache, and so 1679 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 5: they had that and eyes were on the butt cheeks 1680 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 5: and everything. So they wore these kind of like butt 1681 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 5: face masks and pretended that they were the Colons. These 1682 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 5: items became available on WWE auction, and of course, how 1683 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 5: would I not want to have. 1684 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 2: That piece of memorabilia. 1685 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,600 Speaker 5: So I actually have one that's signed by them that 1686 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,719 Speaker 5: was one of the colons. 1687 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 3: So ask forward to. 1688 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 5: WrestleMania twenty six in Phoenix at the Dome down there, 1689 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 5: and I'm in the front row wearing because the Colons 1690 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 5: were involved in a pre show battle Royal and while 1691 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 5: that's going on, I'm wearing this mask. 1692 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 1693 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 5: In the front row, I am approached by a WWE 1694 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,200 Speaker 5: security person who I actually know at this point. 1695 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Because didn't know enough to shows. 1696 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,679 Speaker 5: They didn't know because I was in the mask obviously, 1697 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 5: and I was asked, you know what are you doing? 1698 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 5: And I'm like, look, this has your guys hologram onted. 1699 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 5: This is WWE Merch. I bought it off ww auction 1700 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 5: said this is the from Miss and Morrisons skit. 1701 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 3: And they started laughing, and apparently. 1702 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,719 Speaker 5: McMahon was on the headsets and was like losing his mind, saying, 1703 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to try to paraphrase in a way that 1704 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 5: I can say on the radio, but goodness gracious, there's 1705 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,040 Speaker 5: a button row one. And he was like apparently furious 1706 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 5: about it. And then when I came in, I told him, 1707 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,599 Speaker 5: and they like told him, and then apparently he went, 1708 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,639 Speaker 5: so I still have that at my house. 1709 01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 2: That is that's quite good. I will not attempt to 1710 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 2: top it. I do have in my office my my 1711 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 2: uncle when the original fence that was on the place 1712 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 2: that my great great grandfather homesteaded, when it was replaced, 1713 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 2: he took those fence posts, several of them, and cut 1714 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 2: them up into pieces and put the brand on it. 1715 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 2: And so I have in my office a it's an 1716 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 2: eight piece hunk of fence post from when we homesteaded, 1717 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 2: my great great grandfather homesteaded in the early life. 1718 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 3: Did that's awesome? So yeah, that's really. 1719 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 2: One of those they put like the brand on it, 1720 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 2: so it was It's pretty cool. 1721 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 4: He also has favorite Beria restaurants. I'm gonna tell you, 1722 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 4: Mike's down the street. Go get the Calamario. It's fantastic 1723 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 4: and uh for a great diebar, the Polish Village can't 1724 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 4: be beat, although the Oriole is a close second. Uh 1725 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 4: from Tommy Klaco. Do you clear all your email notifications 1726 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 4: or just let them ride to see how high it 1727 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 4: can go? 1728 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 2: I crossed the room. There was a point where I 1729 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 2: would clear him, and then I just got overwhelmed. 1730 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1731 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 2: Same, and I just so now it's huge, and I 1732 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 2: just I'd given up. 1733 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 3: Same. 1734 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,639 Speaker 4: Where's the uh, where's the worst place you've been stuck 1735 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 4: for a long time? I was into Luth, Minnesota for 1736 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,680 Speaker 4: a week. You can chuck that one up to be 1737 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 4: in hot gone. 1738 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 2: Wow, that's bleak, I said, yeah, you know when we 1739 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 2: were doing the Broncos, like, I was in the Denver 1740 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 2: airport for twenty four hours with NBC when he was two. 1741 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 2: That was pretty bad. Yeah, that was bad. He was 1742 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,960 Speaker 2: on he slept on my chest. I slept on the 1743 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 2: floor like it was a That was brutal. 1744 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a disaster. I mean I would say this winter. 1745 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 2: This winter in Northeast, I will do it. My damn 1746 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 2: near was broke this morning as it just kept snowing. 1747 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 2: I just went, my god, really yeah, more. 1748 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:56,799 Speaker 3: It's wild? 1749 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,880 Speaker 2: Uh? From Bobby? Who is your favorite superhero is a kid? 1750 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 4: Batman? Spider Man? Speaking of cool things? I have my 1751 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,679 Speaker 4: my uncle now. But my great uncle started to write 1752 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 4: a comic strip that's in the Plain Dealer and newspapers 1753 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,040 Speaker 4: all over the. 1754 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 2: World called the Born Loser. Oh good Lord. 1755 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,840 Speaker 4: And so when my great uncle passed, literally everybody came 1756 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,880 Speaker 4: Jim Davis, Oh, stan Lee, everybody and stan Lee. I 1757 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,080 Speaker 4: have something signed when I was born from stan Lee 1758 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:33,680 Speaker 4: and spider Man. 1759 01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 5: That's wow, I would probably say, because I looked at 1760 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 5: him as a superhero. Joe Montana, you know. 1761 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know. Did you like superheroes as a kid. 1762 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean you were like Robin Hood and stuff? Though, right, I. 1763 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 3: Did love her. Yeah, Robin Hood was great. 1764 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 2: You were the Robin Hood to your father. 1765 01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 3: I was. 1766 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 2: I would say he was more like the Nottingham to you. 1767 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's definitely the sheriff nodding him or guy of gisborn. 1768 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 3: What about would you say? 1769 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 2: G I Joe not superheroes, I think, and I felt 1770 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 2: pretty cool. Yeah, they were awesome. They were awesome. I 1771 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,640 Speaker 2: guarantee you. You and I have the same answer to this. 1772 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 2: If you were a ghost, who or where would you haunt? 1773 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 2: And why both of us would haunt our fathers? That'd 1774 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 2: be endlessly joyful for me. I still would love yeah, 1775 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,640 Speaker 2: and I would still love to get roundtable. Wouldn't you 1776 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 2: love to be a ghost and just screw with Pedro? 1777 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 3: It would be unbelievable. 1778 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,559 Speaker 2: I'd love it so much. 1779 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:39,600 Speaker 5: My relationship my father, we talk about basically three things, 1780 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:47,599 Speaker 5: food and wine, football in sports, and then he sends 1781 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 5: me countless memes and conspiracy theories and it's just send 1782 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 5: me one right. 1783 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 3: Now, and I haven't even watched it yet, and I 1784 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:56,880 Speaker 3: can't wait. 1785 01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,360 Speaker 5: That just says yet another conspiracy theory turning out to 1786 01:29:59,400 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 5: be true. 1787 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,720 Speaker 2: They all are. See, what'd it be fun to haunt him? 1788 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,519 Speaker 2: He'd be unbelievable, So much more to come. You listen 1789 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 2: to Clevelandrods Daily on eight fifty ESPA Cleveland. 1790 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Beck, an official sports 1791 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,960 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP 1792 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. 1793 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, kids, We've done it. Next 1794 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 2: week we got a show on a Monday, and then 1795 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,600 Speaker 2: we are combined bound baby. 1796 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1797 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 2: Look is it Connor with a K in the background 1798 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 2: behind you? 1799 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 3: Is love? 1800 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 5: Love on his face? Grad is a month of the 1801 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,040 Speaker 5: Month of Romance? 1802 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:46,799 Speaker 3: Look at him? 1803 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:47,759 Speaker 2: Look at him? 1804 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 3: Just? 1805 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 2: Is this going to be the g Man's debut in 1806 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Indie two? It's all in play? 1807 01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 3: Did you give him the dress code? 1808 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 2: Connor is too good to go with us? Look at 1809 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,480 Speaker 2: g Man, just loom Man. We're talking to g Man 1810 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:06,439 Speaker 2: and and J Mac Doctor J two. Oh yeah, oh 1811 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 2: my gosh. The whole cruise going away. We go away, 1812 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,439 Speaker 2: We go kids, the next levels next, We're back next week. 1813 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,479 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1814 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,439 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1815 01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland