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Speaker 1: L I t E dot com. A lot of talk

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Speaker 1: these days about the death of late night television. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you probably don't know where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going with it, but I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone even said it's a it's a by the

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Speaker 1: Colbert losing his show as a it's bad for the

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Speaker 1: it's against the constitution. You aware of this.

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Speaker 3: I was not aware of that.

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Speaker 1: I read it today. But uh, I'm going somewhere with

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Speaker 1: this real quick. But I mean, the dude makes you know,

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Speaker 1: he makes twenty million a year, twenty million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: and the show loses forty million dollars a year. The

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Speaker 1: reason I bring this up is, you know, and those

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Speaker 3: Are you going to start doing that?

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Speaker 1: No, because they're not. They're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: Someone's got to carry got to.

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Speaker 1: Say it show today, ladies and gentlemen. Good thing we

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Speaker 2: We should just try to have this air late night

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Speaker 1: Yeah or yeah, or we do like a deal where

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Speaker 1: we do some analytics and find out when people mostly

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ten am we do a traffic report.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I want to steal the late night group.

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Speaker 3: For the kids, flute, who plays the drums in here?

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Speaker 1: And then I got to get a suit and time

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Speaker 1: Which seems why are not just like you're doing sports?

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Speaker 1: Great show for you this morning, ladies and gentlemen. We

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Speaker 1: this is mega producing on Krin's Park. To bring this

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Speaker 1: pardon me, Bishoffs, Yeah, the co owners of Bischoff's The

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Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom, a tax dermy shop in Hollywood, California, Ace

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Speaker 3: Year, one hundred and three.

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Speaker 1: I've been married seventy one years and uh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: how freshest article is right. The or the fourth owners

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Speaker 1: cover details, describing each other as good friends. The two

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Speaker 1: They usually do that too in the media, and I

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Speaker 1: The article says, you're so in sync you sometimes finish

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Speaker 5: Damn okay.

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Speaker 1: And then tell what he's thinking.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking about that right now. Since

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Speaker 1: Primarily you eat mostly vegetables.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not here to tell you what to eat.

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Speaker 4: No, of course, we're just fact checking.

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Speaker 1: Bishoffs used to be the tax dermist to the stars

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Speaker 1: So we asked them to come on and talk about

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Speaker 1: where's my picture? So we're right now Randon and I

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Speaker 1: are recording our third volume of me Eater's American History.

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Speaker 1: We did The Long Hunters seventeen sixty three to seventeen

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Speaker 1: She did a skull, she did it. We had for

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Speaker 4: In your email? It's an email from hunter.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the problem, he said it to me. I

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Speaker 1: can't find it. Uh huh, must have deleted or something.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, got it, got it, got it, got it?

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Speaker 1: Where was I For.

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Speaker 4: The listeners at home? There's now an image on Steve's computer.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna show it. To the camera if you

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Speaker 8: No, no, but I'm just I'm doing the thing for

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Speaker 1: They wanted to, as they put it, make them sick.

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Speaker 4: They asked for alternatives.

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Speaker 1: They didn't like the skull because it looked too much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then these kind of things you can

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Speaker 1: Or would you rather fight about if they come back

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Speaker 7: I just directly in front of you.

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Speaker 9: But if I don't know, if you can slack this

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Speaker 7: Now it's a it's going to be out of focus.

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Speaker 1: That's one way to do it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're surrounded by a bunch of barbarians, Phil, I'm sorry, Phil.

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Speaker 1: That's good news. It's good news for Seth. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 12: She can really be in vacation mode when she's actually

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Speaker 1: And we're working on that right now, right here in

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Speaker 4: No, no, is it Kelly Shoot?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Kelly shoot. Shoots boll by Fort Betton, Montana.

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Speaker 7: Geez.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of seventy thousand words of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy thousand words of this stuff, and it also

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Speaker 7: Does this do you cover a bunch of different states?

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Speaker 1: Where does this mostly take place? The main action we

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Speaker 1: The way to think about it too is that like

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Speaker 1: Speaking of buffalo, here's the thing we've been to it

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Speaker 1: I buffaloed him into being a buffalo man. There's a

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Speaker 1: You guys have stuff with buffalo.

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Speaker 1: August eleven, twenty twenty five. I'll be fighting a big o'

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Speaker 1: hallib it that day. August eleven, twenty twenty five is

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Speaker 1: It snacks dot com. Now is this is the is

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Speaker 1: the next thing? Are we just into the show? Now?

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Speaker 3: Yes? We can skip the stolen valor stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you talk about it's we're talking about see because

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Speaker 1: Meaning like if you if you hunt deer and you

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Speaker 1: but you didn't you bought it? Is that stolen valor?

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00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: And so we're trying to weigh out like how this

442
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: whole thing works. But you you don't need to weigh

443
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: in on that, because I don't want you to alienate

444
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: your clientele.

445
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 11: No, no, no, I mean it feels it just depends.

446
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 11: If they actually hunt and then they go purchase, they

447
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 11: go purchase something huge from us, then it seems a

448
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 11: little bit like stolen that. But if they're just like

449
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 11: stylists or house decorators, yes, for people who just you know,

450
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 11: they're not in the hunting world, then it might not

451
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 11: be stole that.

452
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: That's where we landed. That's where I landed. I landed.

453
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: Is like, are you using it in the way that

454
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: could be deceptive?

455
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's one thing? Yeah, right?

456
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: Or is it?

457
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Speaker 8: I mean I think like if it's if it's someone

458
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 8: you know, if it's like a friend's animal or something like,

459
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 8: you have a sentimental connection to it, like it has

460
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 8: meaning to you.

461
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Other than I just took possession of all my dad's

462
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: texts for me, well four pieces.

463
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've got a buddies I've got a buddy's fish

464
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 8: in my garage that's stolen valor.

465
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: Your dad, like everybodys good passed away. I'm sorry, my condolences.

466
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: What kind of fish? Is it? Huge?

467
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: It's a big it's a giant snook.

468
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 6: Dad?

469
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: Actually is there?

470
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 5: Okay?

471
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: If no, no, no, if I walked into your garage

472
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: and you weren't home, what I think holy ship, Randa

473
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: caught a big what was it?

474
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 4: Snook?

475
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's stolen valor, but I didn't catch.

476
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 8: If I'm not home though, if you're in my garage

477
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 8: when I'm not home, but stole ship.

478
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know Randall was a snook fisherman.

479
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess. I guess in the absence of any context,

480
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 8: you could jump to that conclusion. But most people walk

481
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 8: in they say, oh, that that's a like, where'd you

482
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 8: get that?

483
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: That's a big snook? And I'll go it's it was

484
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: my buddies.

485
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: Does it look old like it's it's a it's not

486
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: a partritional it's the original.

487
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 12: I think, like if there's been multiple times where you

488
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 12: have given stuff away after a trip, like I always

489
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 12: regret it, Like you're your bear from the spring you

490
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 12: gave I think he gave the chili.

491
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: The skull, Yeah, I gave.

492
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: I give him my shoulder mount to Chili.

493
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 12: And Jili is going to office boil that up and

494
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 12: put it on a shelf and be like, that's from

495
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 12: the hunt I was on with Steve.

496
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: Steve got that or else it stolen ballant.

497
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that is just like he's gonna display

498
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 12: that as.

499
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: That man was so small that he stolen embarrassment. I

500
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna bring it up. But you want to claim that,

501
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: you can go ahead.

502
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 6: Well.

503
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 8: The funny thing about that snook, too, is when I

504
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 8: walked into my buddy's office one time and I was like,

505
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 8: holy shit, that's a big snook.

506
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: Where'd you get that?

507
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 8: And he goes, oh, he spread this out because my

508
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 8: dad caught it, and then I got it when he died.

509
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 8: And now I have that fish and I do the

510
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 8: same thing all the way.

511
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: Oh, here's a tax to me question. Yeah, so this

512
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: this I got this bear well over twenty years ago.

513
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 7: Did you shoot all them holes in there?

514
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 10: No?

515
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: I only shot him one time? It was actually maybe

516
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: that's no, no, no, no, this has been This has been

517
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: employed as a half dozen Halloween costumes. I mean, this

518
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: has been through heavy is this? Uh? Here's the thing

519
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: I worry about. There's nothing you can do to save

520
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: this now?

521
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 5: Right?

522
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: Or how would you save it?

523
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 7: For the audio listeners? What are we doing here?

524
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry? Sorry? Phil. Up until this point it looks

525
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: like a polar bear, but it's a black bear and

526
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I and it's it's sun bleached. I keep I keep

527
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: it out. We have at like an outdoor patio that's

528
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of covered, and I keep it over the couch.

529
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: And so over the years it bleached to like a

530
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: polar bear. It's my favorite thing. Really not my favorite thing,

531
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: one of my favorite, uh specimens. I feel like it's

532
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: gotten wiry. It's it needs a good shampoo.

533
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: So I was saying, among other things, yes, uh.

534
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: I want to give it a good shampooing. But I'm

535
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: afraid if it gets wet, it's just gonna fall apart.

536
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 11: It's gonna get stiff and fall apart on you. You agree, yeah.

537
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: You can? What could I do? What could I? Is

538
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: there anything I could do?

539
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 5: You could oil it?

540
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: I did, maybe maybe a little longer than what would

541
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: you put on there in your professional opinion.

542
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 11: You know, even Mackenzie oils is you know, there's plenty

543
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 11: of tacks from your companies that have oils. Just a

544
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 11: leather oil, baseball glove oil, you know, any kind of

545
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 11: old to just kind of seep into there a little bit,

546
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 11: brush it on and then honestly ad lay a mesh

547
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 11: and then latex it just because you see these tears

548
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 11: over time you wear that thing, you pull it together.

549
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 11: You need something to hold it together. Otherwise it's gonna

550
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 11: it's gonna end up breaking on you eventually.

551
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: So if I shampoo it, I'm screwed.

552
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's gonna be stiff as a rock. I

553
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 11: mean it's it's yeah, you can't because you're rehydrating it.

554
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 11: So unless you're gonna mount it, no, it's it's gonna

555
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 11: inania meant it's not gonna work.

556
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: But I gotta say fundamental value.

557
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: I could latex it, well, you'd have to.

558
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 11: You'd have to lay like a little layer of mesh

559
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 11: over it with adhesive, like flexible adhesive, got it, because

560
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 11: that'll create a bomb pretty much. It'll be like a

561
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 11: skin on the skin, just kind of holding it. So

562
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 11: if you're going to tear this, that holds it together,

563
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 11: and then you can like to latex over that or

564
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 11: back it with something else, whether it's felt.

565
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 6: Like a.

566
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, flexible.

567
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Do people ever bring you stuff like this in your

568
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: shop all the time? Do you turn them away?

569
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 7: Usually?

570
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 10: If it's like most of the time, we we really

571
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 10: it's not because we don't want this, because we're so

572
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 10: basic with all other things that you know, we don't

573
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 10: really have the time.

574
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: And then our guy like he mentioned.

575
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: He passed, or your rug guy.

576
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's like, unfortunately we haven't found anyone yet, you know,

577
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 10: so we we mostly.

578
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 6: Turn them away.

579
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: So if I came in and I was like, please

580
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you turn me away?

581
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: How much capital you have?

582
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 11: It sounds but then it just it pulls us away

583
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 11: from bigger, more important projects, sometimes more important.

584
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 4: This looks like, this looks like a passion project. Does

585
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: it looks like.

586
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on getting this out. But and when

587
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: you guys came in, we got to talking about just

588
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: obviously you taxed there. I mean, it brought to my

589
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: my main problem in life right now. But I'm going

590
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: to pursue. You might think it's crazy because it's probably

591
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: like a lot of money for what I'm sitting here with,

592
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: But I'm going to pursue this mesh adhesive solution. Absolutely,

593
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: what am I looking at? How much? How much money

594
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: am I looking at to fix that up?

595
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: I mean it's not it's just time, honestly. I mean

596
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: for US.

597
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Four fifty oh oh, it's worth to me. It's my

598
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: first pair, first pair. Yeah, how you wouldn't guess it

599
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: from looking at it. It was a huge bear. I couldn't

600
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: roll that sucker over.

601
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: Should have seen this thing when it started.

602
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: So did you guys go to taxi army school? How'd

603
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: you how'd you you know?

604
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: How do you get in just the old timers at Bishops? Yeah?

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you started out working there?

606
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

607
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 11: So it was old an Larry, it was like my mentor,

608
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 11: and he was part of the some of the original Bishops.

609
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 11: He was there maybe the forties fifties, and he's passed on.

610
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 11: But yeah, I just came in and I was doing

611
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 11: just music before that, and I friend of mine I

612
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 11: was like, hey, Gary's going out of town blah blah blah.

613
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 11: He watched the shop and then I met Larry and

614
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 11: he was mounting a crow in the back and he's like.

615
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: Hey, grumb here, yeah, show him out a crow. And

616
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: I was like, it's kind of.

617
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 11: This is kind of interesting, you know what I mean.

618
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 11: And it just kind of went from there.

619
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: But you were working there though, I was.

620
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, I've been working there for like yeah, yeah, four

621
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 11: or five months, and then Larry came in and then

622
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 11: it just it's just you know, I started picking things

623
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 11: up working there, and it all started coming together.

624
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: H ray, what about you?

625
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 10: Well, a little bit later on, he mentioned that Gary

626
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 10: wanted to retire and they wanted to sell out, so

627
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 10: we just jokingly said, well, let's jump in, let's buy it,

628
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 10: you know, because he knew the numbers, he was running

629
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 10: the shop.

630
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: So oh, but how long had you been there at

631
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: that point?

632
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 5: Well?

633
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 6: I hadn't.

634
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 10: I had just been there once or twice to.

635
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: So you guys were buddies. Yeah, what how were you guys? Buddies? Well?

636
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 10: We met through music.

637
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: What kind of music? Just rock?

638
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Like you guys like to play?

639
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 10: Yeah?

640
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, we had different projects and then he had some

641
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 11: songs and then I was gonna do some vocals on

642
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 11: the songs. And then just through the years we became friends.

643
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 11: And I think for whatever reason, we were driving by

644
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 11: the shop one day and I was just like, dude,

645
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 11: you got to check out the shop, and then he

646
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 11: checked it. I was like like, wow, this is impressive.

647
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 11: It's like a natural history museum that you can be

648
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 11: up close with.

649
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: But you didn't know anything about tax dermy.

650
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 10: I mean, I knew about it, but I really, you know,

651
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 10: it never crossed my mind like to you know, get

652
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 10: into it. Oh my god, you know, like I want

653
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 10: to learn or anything like that. I just thought it

654
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 10: was so cool, like to see the specimen, you know,

655
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 10: all these pieces out there and beautiful and uh it's

656
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 10: like he said, like stepping into a museum.

657
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 6: So it was, you know, just so impressive.

658
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 10: But uh, I never really thought about how is it done,

659
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 10: you know, why is it done? Or ah, to really

660
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 10: go deep into it until he mentioned that, you know,

661
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 10: they wanted to retire and he said the numbers look good.

662
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: So oh so he says to you, yeah, you're aware

663
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: that tax deurmy is a thing, right, and you're like

664
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: looking at it, and then A says, do you want

665
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: to buy a text to what? You're like, yeah, yeah,

666
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: let's do it.

667
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 10: Let's jump on it.

668
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 6: You know a.

669
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 8: Classic, it's the classic rock music to textrmy pipe.

670
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Speaker 10: Slippers Love.

671
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

672
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 10: So you know, we just jumped in and we got

673
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 10: into it and uh, just roll with the punches, you know.

674
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 10: So one time we were about to close the deal,

675
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 10: right and he said, hey, I'm staying late because you

676
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 10: know I wasn't really there yet. I'm staying late. I'm

677
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 10: skinning a coyote and I said, hold on, I'm going

678
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 10: there and let me do it. So I got just

679
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 10: show up in the evening and started skinning a coyote.

680
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 10: You know, he was kind of showing me around. So

681
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 10: that's kind of my first tryad. Actually, Yeah, do you

682
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 10: know people.

683
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: How many like what what what is this? Like bischofs

684
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: at the time, what was the scale of the business?

685
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean employee wise, yeah, or just whatever you're you're

686
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: cranking out? What kind of work?

687
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 11: And I mean it's hard to say because it just

688
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 11: depends on the size of the project. So sometimes it'll

689
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 11: be like a big movie project and they want like

690
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 11: an animatoric cow that's laying outside with a lot of

691
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 11: servos and stuff going on.

692
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 5: So that's what servos and just electronic.

693
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, so it'll be like a you know, RV whatever

694
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 11: those little letters and then so that project takes a

695
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 11: lot more time, you know what I mean. So it

696
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 11: just depends, and we're doing a lot of things at

697
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 11: the same time. So you'll see amount being done, pet

698
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 11: being finished, You'll see.

699
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: Like a hunting a mount being done, Yeah, pet.

700
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 11: Being finished, a fake life sized bear that's ten foot

701
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 11: you know, being fabricated for something where they don't want

702
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 11: to use real fur whatever is you know, So, like

703
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 11: we have a bunch of different projects going on at

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 11: the same time.

705
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: In a studio.

706
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 11: In studio, yeah, yeah, exactly, but how many people were

707
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 11: working there depends on project. Normally bring them in depending

708
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 11: on what's going on. Yeah, so on average, like six

709
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 11: six is kind of like the are straightforward number, but

710
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 11: then we bring in subcontractors. On electronics, there's phenomenal sculptors Jesse.

711
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: We got a lot of people who are just.

712
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 6: Great makers and things.

713
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 10: It depends on how big the project and how our

714
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 10: time frame. So sometimes you know, the studios the movies

715
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 10: are always like can you do you know, can you

716
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 10: have it by Friday?

717
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: And it's like sure, his wife bar.

718
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 8: Did you guys have like other than music? Did you

719
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 8: did you work in like another? I mean did you

720
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 8: were you in like a physical did you sculptor or

721
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 8: painting or drawing or did you have a mechanical background.

722
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 10: I have a mechanical background, Okay, yeah, yeah, So I

723
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 10: used to I used to have a smoke check station

724
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 10: in California. We do, you know, emission inspections for vehicles

725
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 10: so they don't pollute. So I had a license I

726
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 10: was a technician, you know, so I was handy and

727
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 10: I did I did go to school for the electronics

728
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 10: you know, like low voltage stuff, so that kind of

729
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 10: came in handy when it came down to U servos

730
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 10: and mechanical stuff and electronics stuff.

731
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Speaker 12: So the average day, you guys could be mounting a

732
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 12: buck from some joe blow that brought a buck in

733
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 12: that killed one hunting to like making stuff for movies.

734
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, sometimes he's working on a on a you know,

735
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 10: on that or a taxi in peace, and I'll be

736
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 10: working on a on a structure for a for a

737
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 10: dead dog or something that they're going to need, you know,

738
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 10: like like so and then we do uh he does

739
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 10: the final details. I'll get it ready for you know,

740
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 10: just for the final painting and rushing and details.

741
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: So we kind of like switch over.

742
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: It like yeah, so we got to see I mean

743
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: like he could.

744
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 11: Well, he does all the other stuff, you know, a

745
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 11: lot of the that kind of stuff I do more

746
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 11: than I do, like the finish worth, the airbrush and

747
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 11: all that kind of stuff.

748
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: But I don't want to get a job down there man.

749
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: Internship for a while.

750
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's interesting, I mean it's it's challenging because every time,

751
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 10: you know, you gotta we start from scratch and we

752
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 10: gotta figure out you know, every time it's a little

753
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 10: different because they always want some different you know. It's sure,

754
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 10: it's rare when we do like the same thing, you know,

755
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 10: like the same uh kind of prop So they always

756
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 10: want something.

757
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's back up to music for one sec. So

758
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: the Blizzard of Oz just died, you guys, Yes, Like,

759
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: so if I just give me thumbs up, thumbs down,

760
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: war Pigs, yeah good, Crazy Train.

761
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 10: Yeah really good.

762
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 8: Let the record show that to both of those questions

763
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 8: they responded to.

764
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: The affirmative with war Pigs was like a tentative. It

765
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: was like they thought about it. But Crazy Train was like, yeah,

766
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: that was a no brainer. Yeah, war Pisa, let me

767
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: hate with this one. Him doing all them stupid reality shows.

768
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: They didn't thumb It felt like a thumb down.

769
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go between.

770
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: You don't want to speak.

771
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 6: Somewhat entertaining, but.

772
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Osborne's is very entertaining.

773
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

774
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I never watched it. I could tell you a long

775
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: fifteen minute story about Crazy Train that involved me and

776
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Craig Kemp from high school, but I'm not gonna just

777
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: want more. It'll be like an appendix, can we do?

778
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: We should start doing appendixes on the.

779
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 7: Show post credits scenes.

780
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like an appendix to the show. You do the

781
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: parts you couldn't fit in it? Yeah? How does the

782
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: how does the movie trust me? I want I want

783
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: to get to like just the emotional aspects of the

784
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: pet trade, but or the pet business. But like, how

785
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: does movie business come to you? Do you? I mean,

786
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: like like who who comes to you? Is it an agent?

787
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: Is it a director? Like like how do they explain

788
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: their vision?

789
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Speaker 11: I mean it's they just everybody reaches out, whether it's

790
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 11: prop master, whether it's product. You know, anybody in the

791
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 11: production will reach out. I mean at this point, I

792
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 11: think it's established enough. I mean even long before we

793
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 11: were there, well Gary, Mary were, they're the previous owners

794
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 11: that they just give us a call. Literally, it's just

795
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 11: we pick up the phone, Bishops and they'll be like, hey,

796
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 11: we're working on the show. We need a fake pig.

797
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 11: Someone's got to stab it. There's got to be blood

798
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 11: coming out the other side. We gotta drag it, make

799
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 11: it flexible, make it heavy.

800
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Speaker 5: The actor, does you know what I mean?

801
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 11: And then and then they'll be like, but we need

802
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 11: it in two weeks, and then you gotta you know,

803
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 11: you gotta figure it out.

804
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 10: And then we tell them, yeah, we need at least

805
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 10: two weeks, and then they're they're still working on it.

806
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 10: And then five days go by and they give us

807
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 10: a green light. So for the same day, Well, they

808
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 10: go back and forth and figuring things out.

809
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you able to like, can you name some

810
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: films that people might have seen some of your stuff in?

811
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. We did West Road, We worked on

812
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 5: land Man.

813
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, let's let's done a lot of Yellowstone stuff, The Night,

814
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 11: all the nineteen twenty three, A lot of the Tailers

815
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 11: and stuff we definitely worked on.

816
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: I was just in what the snakes for? I forgot.

817
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 11: I was just I mean, the thing is, by the

818
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 11: time the shows come out, I don't even know what

819
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 11: it was for.

820
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 10: Yeah. Sometimes we don't even know they showed. We just

821
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 10: have the production company name and we don't know.

822
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: You never you don't like follow along? No, I mean

823
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: out of your life? Are you never watching the show

824
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: and you're like.

825
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, that's what we find out. We be watching

826
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 10: some Netflix and oh, ship, that's that's you know, that's.

827
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: All blood comes out of that pig going left to right.

828
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: That's it.

829
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: So do you often because of the because of the

830
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: rules in filmmaking. And I know it's not a hard

831
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: and fast rule, but there's like there are way you know,

832
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: when you started seeing once upon a time, you start

833
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: seeing like no animals are harmed in the making the movie.

834
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Does that really? Like how does that fit into your work?

835
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Meaning if you have an old specimen it was already

836
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: dead for another reason, are you able to use it

837
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: or does everything have to be synthetic? No?

838
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 5: No, So yeah, it's just pretty much you didn't kill

839
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: it for the purpose of the film.

840
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.

841
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 11: So if we had an old hide for example, like

842
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 11: even we've had donated highs from like the World Conservation Center,

843
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 11: say for example, when they naturally pass, they'll you know,

844
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 11: they'll like you guys can process because otherwise we're just

845
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 11: gonna do a commute vibration. Ye, So we'll say the

846
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 11: hide and we can use that hide. And it's not

847
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 11: you know, we didn't kill it for the purpose in

848
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 11: the film. We just had the hide.

849
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like in a movie when they're eat a steak,

850
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: right exactly, they didn't go out and yeah, that.

851
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 5: Same.

852
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: So you guys don't like go get the go, get

853
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the rifles and what's gonna happen? Hit me with the

854
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: hit me with the pig. One. Okay, so they want

855
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: there's a pig they need to pick. They want to pick. Oh,

856
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I was just watching the other It was a It

857
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: was a Corsican movie. I can't remember the name of it. Anyways,

858
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: in it, they got a pig hanging there.

859
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I saw that.

860
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: Is it like a gangster like it's like the Fathers.

861
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: The father is involved in like like local mafia and

862
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: then it's like.

863
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: The corse Can Mob.

864
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Speaker 3: I forget the name of that film.

865
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Speaker 1: Either way, In it, they got to pick. They show up,

866
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: there's a pig in the truck. Pretty soon the pig's

867
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: hanging there. So you get a call about a pig, like,

868
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: let me just let me give you a fake exam

869
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: because you already brought up the pig. Let me bring

870
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: up one. Like I say, I'm doing a movie. A

871
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: guy the protagonist hits a deer at night with his

872
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: car and it's a key part of the movie that

873
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: he hits a deer at night. So when you a deer.

874
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: We need a he needs to hit it. It needs

875
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: to be that there it is on the road. There's

876
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna be quite a bit of focus on the deer

877
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: because of the plot. How would you where do you start? Like,

878
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: how would you think about that problem?

879
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 11: I mean that's probably an easier one because there's a

880
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 11: lot of deer hides we have. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

881
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 11: I mean it just truthfully, I mean, it's not something

882
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 11: super exotic that you're looking for, you know, and then

883
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 11: we just see the hide, see what they want if

884
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 11: they needed to move or be flexible.

885
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 10: So we'll probably start with two of them for for

886
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 10: the for the purpose of you know, you're gonna shoot it,

887
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 10: you get a frame when when he's gonna get hit

888
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 10: by the car.

889
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 12: Right, That's what I was gonna ask, Like in a

890
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 12: scene like that where there's like a standing deer, a

891
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 12: deer like flying through deer, and then like a dead deer.

892
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: So that we would probably multiple deer.

893
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's multiple deer.

894
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 10: See if you're going to get out of the car

895
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 10: and then drag it somewhere, and obviously it has to

896
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 10: be flappy, kind of freshly dead killed, you know whatever,

897
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 10: So you need a flappy one, so you would need

898
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 10: a couple of them, at least two of them.

899
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: And when you're making it look like obviously you got

900
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: to make it look banged up.

901
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, you got to do that. Blood, the guts,

902
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 5: the whole.

903
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 11: We do like silicone, so we'll make MOLDI wile scold

904
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 11: pieces and then lay silicone paint that up. Then you

905
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 11: can put blood over that and then it just looks

906
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 11: gruesome when you when you go up to it, you know.

907
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: When it's floppy, what are you stuffing it with? Well,

908
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: so we is that a trade secret.

909
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 10: It's kind of a secret, but we try to keep it,

910
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 10: you know, the structure or the anatomy as close as possible.

911
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 10: So that's kind of we learned that, yeah, you know

912
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 10: through a lot of the ones that weren't so good.

913
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 10: So we learn that we we need to have the

914
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 10: anatomy kind of you know, certain parts need to be

915
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 10: like really more structure, structure firm than than Yeah, it's interesting.

916
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 5: It's kind of dips in the shoulders.

917
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they head obviously hot.

918
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: Like a new kind of a new kind of mount

919
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: I know. John Hayes does like soft coyotes, and we

920
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: have a soft mom can.

921
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 7: But you want right he does.

922
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just wondering, like, you know, who knows?

923
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Maybe you want a different kind of you want to

924
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: floppy floppy. I don't know Roan at home that you've

925
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: just gotten Tanzania.

926
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: Sure.

927
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 12: Yeah.

928
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I know a guy. I know

929
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: a guy that has a full sable and a full

930
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: rone hide. Okay, so if you get a movie call, oh,

931
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: definitely you get a movie call, come.

932
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: Talks, and he might be willing to trade them for

933
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: a mesh backer.

934
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean like for ationally done, fleshed and

935
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: salted everything down to the nut sack. Wow, ready to go,

936
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: No salt, just keep me in mind. So let's say

937
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: we do this deer that we're gonna do this deer

938
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: thing as I described, And I don't want to pry,

939
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: but I'm like, hey, what, uh what should I budget

940
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: for this? Now? Don't don't just like like, are we talking?

941
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to pry. Let's put this way.

942
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 3: Let's put this one talk about in the number of figures.

943
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put this way. Yeah, I go and say, hey,

944
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: I just killed a nice buck. I want a full

945
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: body a mount of my buck to display in my house,

946
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: and I wanted to look like the second before I

947
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: shot it live and well beautiful. And then I come

948
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: with the same deer and I say, hey, I want

949
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: to look like I just ran it over? But bad?

950
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Which of these projects is more expensive?

951
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 11: As long as you bring it and you give us

952
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 11: a good amount of time, they would both be you know,

953
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 11: I mean, it'd be cheaper to get you a busted

954
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 11: up looking thing.

955
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: It is you got to make all the latex.

956
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 11: But we already have all the molds and everything for it,

957
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 11: so we youat know, I mean, and we do it

958
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 11: so often that it's just like.

959
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're probably not doing a ton of detail

960
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 8: work with something like that.

961
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: We just throw dirt on it. If you want it

962
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: really much.

963
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: Then you built when they read their does it item

964
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: for dirt?

965
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

966
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: So uh, there's that business which is very different. You

967
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: had traditional taxidermy, which people can't understand that how in

968
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: the world, like in Bischoff's history, how did how did

969
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: the pet?

970
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: You can continue?

971
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, in company history?

972
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

973
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: What was the moment that someone said, like we're laughing

974
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: about Cranny asked John Hayes, did you pet John Hayes says, no,

975
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: what was the moment in Bischoff history? What Okay, tell

976
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: me the name of the animal.

977
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: It's not called it's Bishops.

978
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 11: Yeahs is the name of the company and the animal

979
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 11: kingdom is just like the slogan that goes with I got.

980
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: At what point in Bischoff history was it? The answer

981
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: is yes.

982
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 11: Well I think Roy Rogers trigger was was done at

983
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 11: our shop?

984
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 5: Really yeah, I mean that was a pet and.

985
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: Roy Rogers horse.

986
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, Everett mounted it. Yeah, at our shop many years ago.

987
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: My god, that is incredible.

988
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: And also a buck on the yeah as well.

989
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: I mean if you walked up on that, I'd kick it.

990
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 4: You'd have no, it's like wake you would have.

991
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 8: Let let the record show that there's now a dog,

992
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 8: a stuffed dog?

993
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Is that?

994
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 10: Aug, it's a frenchie.

995
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 8: There's a there's a stuffed frenchie on the table that

996
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 8: is uh sleeping.

997
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: And it looks and very real.

998
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's got wrinkles. And you got a picture of

999
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 8: me sitting here, Randal. Yeah, who's hard?

1000
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: Is this?

1001
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 5: That's a client center? Actually?

1002
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 7: Do that's that?

1003
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Dog's hard? He wanted his dog's heart.

1004
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, smile, you're saying that so how do you how

1005
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 11: do you do that is a freeze drivers.

1006
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: I had a question about that.

1007
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I had a lot of questions drying that up and eat.

1008
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 5: It technically, I mean, not what we injected with.

1009
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 8: The strange part about the heart to me is like

1010
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 8: if I took my dog to you and said I

1011
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 8: want my heart, and obviously we can't.

1012
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: You know, these are your clients that we don't. But

1013
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: like when they get it back to like, oh, I've

1014
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: never seen that before.

1015
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen my heart. You ever think about that?

1016
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: You never get a good look at your own heart.

1017
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, well they've seen it done. You know, they've seen

1018
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 10: the sample, so they get a good idea of how

1019
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 10: what they're getting.

1020
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, that.

1021
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 7: Is I could see Tracker, oh yeah, getting done like that.

1022
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be that different than the way it

1023
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: is now. Yeah, it just kind of later.

1024
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, I spend when

1025
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 8: I'm at home, I spend ninety five percent of my

1026
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 8: time around sleeping dogs, and.

1027
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: You can spend and I.

1028
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 8: Could never tell you that that wasn't a live dog.

1029
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 8: Is there's nothing bit of.

1030
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Work that's freeze dried.

1031
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a it's a hybrid. It's a yeah, yeah,

1032
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 11: we do a little bit of everything. It's like it's

1033
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 11: like a weird yeah.

1034
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: So what wow?

1035
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 8: What is the freeze like? Could you explain the freeze

1036
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 8: drying process? I mean, I think most people are familiar

1037
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 8: with like standard tax dermoy. You're you're tanning the hide,

1038
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 8: you're putting it over a mold. Then you're you know,

1039
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 8: molding and painting and.

1040
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: Stuff like that. But what is the freeze dry product? Like,

1041
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: you start with a dead dog, what do you do?

1042
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 6: So we prep it?

1043
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 10: Obviously we got to do some skinning in our case,

1044
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 10: you know, all the organs and fatty teach who has

1045
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 10: to be removed because those things don't freeze right well

1046
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 10: except you know obviously if you do it simply. But

1047
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 10: so we prep him. We we actually cast mold out

1048
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 10: of their body so we.

1049
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 6: Have the same the perfect same body.

1050
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: So that's how you get to so you know where

1051
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: to end up.

1052
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, so, uh, but the head, the skull is still

1053
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 10: it's all there is intact, you know, the legs, all

1054
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 10: the skeleton structure.

1055
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: Like that leg or freeze dry good because there's just

1056
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: nothing to.

1057
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 11: It, right, It's just fats and oils is what makes

1058
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 11: it difficult in the freeze dryer, so you got to

1059
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 11: get rid of it pretty much. Fats and oils just

1060
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 11: don't freeze dry. Okay, Yeah, that's the biggest thing. And

1061
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 11: then we sometimes we'll three D scan and then digitally print,

1062
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, some of the body portions

1063
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 11: and stuff like that, because we were big on three

1064
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 11: D printers and scanners, because we've got quite a field

1065
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 11: them just for the film industry.

1066
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: Huh.

1067
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 11: If they want like a quick paw that matches something,

1068
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 11: we can three.

1069
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 5: D printed, you know what I mean and then figure

1070
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 5: that out.

1071
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 11: So we've messed a lot of different you know, I

1072
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 11: mean industries into the pets. Yeah, who's uh, whose dog

1073
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 11: is this? This is? This is I don't know if

1074
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 11: he wants to be named, but it's a it's a

1075
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 11: class you know it's here.

1076
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yea, yeah, that's incredible.

1077
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really, it really is.

1078
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Dude. That dog looks like it's laying there sleeping.

1079
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting all emotion.

1080
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, think of all the moments.

1081
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, think about your own.

1082
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: Time, thinking about when he's alive. Doesn't look like that?

1083
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: How big of a dog?

1084
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: Like?

1085
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: Does the size matter?

1086
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 10: That's obviously bigger dogs hits a lot more work and

1087
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 10: it takes a lot lower in the the actual freeze Riyo.

1088
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: You should see in dogs.

1089
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, got it?

1090
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: Ye, great, great Dane and my new Finland is upstairs.

1091
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: So how how many pounds?

1092
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: But one, one, twenty and one thirty something, so.

1093
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: He's calculating how much times.

1094
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 5: We just got one working up an invoice.

1095
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, someone came in from the East coast and it

1096
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 11: was about one hundred and sixty pounds.

1097
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, so that's the biggest so far.

1098
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: You want frozen probably, yeah, for sure.

1099
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, Yeah, And that's the biggest thing is people sometimes yeah,

1100
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 11: I mean they're not It's not like a hunter who

1101
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 11: knows what they're doing the prep work for, so they

1102
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 11: don't know to freeze. So you know there's times where

1103
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 11: like they've you know, your morning.

1104
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 10: Morning and they have them out for twenty four hours.

1105
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: Or hair starts to slip, yeah late.

1106
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 11: Text Yeah, and age, you know, honestly, age, sometimes they

1107
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 11: lose a lot of weight.

1108
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 5: And we got to be honest with you.

1109
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 11: If you bring in a seventeen year old dog who

1110
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 11: lost X amount of pounds and you're like, and you

1111
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 11: show me a photograph of when they were three four

1112
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 11: years old. We can add a bit of weight, but

1113
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 11: we got to be realistic about that.

1114
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Goes in Hollywood, that goes on all the time. Get it.

1115
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 10: Try to make them look good.

1116
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean if we had a band, this is

1117
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 7: where they're.

1118
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh, all right, I don't even know where to begin.

1119
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: That's just yeah, it's wild.

1120
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: It looks great.

1121
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 6: Ye.

1122
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Back when I was I don't know where. I don't

1123
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: know where things stand in text durmy now. But when

1124
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: I was younger, it would be like you just order

1125
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 1: all these molds. I mean like let's say you let's

1126
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: sa let's say you do white tail deer. Right, you

1127
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: just order a mold right right. For the most part,

1128
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like for most work. Be that you go

1129
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: on to tax dermy dot com and it's like head

1130
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: to you know, shoulder mount looking right. But in your guys,

1131
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: there's no.

1132
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why you.

1133
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 10: Get into it.

1134
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1135
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 12: So there's no forms, no bulldog, no French bulldog, no

1136
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 12: French bulldog, pounds sleeping.

1137
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 4: The cute little used to do.

1138
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1139
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 10: So that's where I think that's where the big difference is.

1140
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 10: There's nothing pre made or or there's nothing we can

1141
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 10: order that.

1142
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: It's all from scratch.

1143
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 6: It's all from scratch.

1144
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: There's little heads on his little paw with a little

1145
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: like it's like yeah, like.

1146
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's the first is the first step. So

1147
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: he he never got you never sent this to get tanned.

1148
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 10: No, No, that's where the freeze dryer kind of takes over.

1149
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 10: You know, the freeze drying kind of it's like the

1150
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 10: tanning process, but it's it's uh, it's done by the

1151
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 10: removing the moisture off and kind of it's pretty much

1152
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 10: the same result. Yeah, I mean, obviously this is brittle,

1153
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 10: you know, it's it's it's I mean, it's stiff.

1154
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: Ye would you would you expect that this is this

1155
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: is this will last?

1156
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, because we do a little bit of a weird

1157
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 11: hybrid thing. We make sure that if you just put

1158
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 11: this in a freeze dryer without doing kind of like

1159
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 11: the hybrid thing that we do with it, it wouldn't last. Yeah,

1160
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 11: because fats and oils just there, they're not going to

1161
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 11: freeze dry.

1162
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 5: It's in edeman. You'll two three years, you'll have slippage,

1163
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 5: you'll have yeah.

1164
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: But when you here's are those like the actual ears?

1165
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 6: Yes?

1166
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, No, inserting there. Yeah, okay, so when you thaw,

1167
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: when you thaw an animal out, is it is the clock?

1168
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Like the clock's ticking.

1169
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: Now right right? Yeah? Yep, mm hmmm.

1170
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: That's so I'm just curious, like, without it, how are

1171
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: you hustling so much to wind up with something so

1172
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: realistic with like the proper folds in its neck and

1173
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: all that. Like once you thought out, you got to

1174
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: start working on it. I mean, yeah, so we you

1175
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: have how many how many hours days till it's got

1176
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: to be kind of like done.

1177
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 10: So we probably we start working on let's say, start

1178
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 10: on it today, and you get to a certain point

1179
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 10: and then you put it back in the refrigerator. So

1180
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 10: next day we pull it out, okay, and you continue

1181
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 10: until probably two days.

1182
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean you got to you gotta keep it cool,

1183
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 11: you got to keep it frozen. So I mean, it's

1184
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 11: not like you got to get it all done.

1185
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 6: Now, not at one.

1186
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, like I could start on it, you know, have

1187
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 11: it pretty much ready to go. Maybe I got the

1188
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 11: mold and then I'm like, okay, wait, it's Friday, you know,

1189
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 11: I want to go have a good week and whatever

1190
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 11: it is popping in the freezer. Then maybe Sunday night,

1191
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 11: come out, pull it over to the fridge by tomorrow morning,

1192
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 11: Monday mornings, you know, thought out and then we can

1193
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 11: go to the next step.

1194
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how distraught are people when they bring you their pets?

1195
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 10: Well, we get a variety of people. Some people are

1196
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 10: just normal, you know, not too emotional. Some people are

1197
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 10: really emotional. Sometimes even when they call we we you know,

1198
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 10: we understand. So we try to be in and you know,

1199
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 10: empathetic to their situation. And so that's kind of a

1200
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 10: different Uh, it's like we're talking about going back from

1201
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 10: year to a.

1202
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 6: Pad to a fake.

1203
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 10: So yeah, yeah, so you're on the phone with someone

1204
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 10: that wants a snake for a show, and then the

1205
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 10: next call is someone crying over the dog, you know.

1206
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: So it's it's a range of emotions.

1207
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 10: It's a range of emotions. And also when they come in,

1208
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 10: you know, we have people from the studios come in

1209
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 10: checking hey and want when I look at your crows

1210
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 10: and they're going and then we got someone bringing on

1211
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 10: you know, their pets. It's it's it's a very contrasting.

1212
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 4: You know, different energy.

1213
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 6: Different energy with different clients.

1214
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, so we made a little like there's like a

1215
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 11: little side pet room, like almost like morning when you

1216
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 11: bring pet in, you go to this private room and

1217
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 11: you kind of you know, you can sit there and

1218
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 11: take your time, just so it doesn't take away from

1219
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 11: your experience. You know, I don't want a studio person

1220
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 11: to come in and just like, hey man, how's you going?

1221
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1222
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah?

1223
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: Do you do you wash the hides on those dogs thorough?

1224
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 12: A lot of If I did my dog, I'd want

1225
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 12: to smell like my dog, like kind of half rocken.

1226
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: Uh what this is? This is gonna be a tricky one,

1227
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't want you guys to damage your business

1228
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: or anything. There's got to be right, Like people are

1229
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna have expectations and then they're gonna come in, you know,

1230
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: and you gotta be like here it is, yeah, and

1231
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: then they're gonna respond that seems to me.

1232
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 5: Fraud.

1233
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: That seems to me. That's got to be a tricky moment.

1234
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: You gotta be having your fingers crossed. Well, they're gonna

1235
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: be like, oh perfect and not some other emotion because

1236
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: they're because again it's emotional.

1237
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 5: It is it's different.

1238
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 10: Well, so far we haven't had a experience, so we're

1239
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 10: pretty confident. So now when people come in and pick

1240
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 10: up their pets pretty confident, there be happy.

1241
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh dude, violin this dog, I'd be thrilled. Yes, I

1242
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: don't know some bit slept like that, but I'd still.

1243
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: Well, you take your if your pet sleeps a different way,

1244
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 5: you you know, we just.

1245
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: Because people got pictures that are dogs.

1246
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I always say like one to three pictures.

1247
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 11: Sometimes they'll send me like an album one thousand, So

1248
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 11: which one do you want? YEA one for the body

1249
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 11: poss Yeah, oneion if.

1250
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 12: You guys did my dog would be super easy because

1251
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 12: when my dog sleeps just looks dead anyway.

1252
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: So just be like, just make it look like a

1253
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: dead dog.

1254
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 7: Can we get it between As and Ray? Just for

1255
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 7: like a really nice clean shot of it. We've gotten

1256
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 7: some good shots, but not not the whole body or

1257
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 7: anything like that.

1258
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: Just for the audience. It's okay to slide it. I

1259
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 1: don't know if yeah one handles and yeah yeah oh

1260
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: even the bottom show the bottom of that thing.

1261
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, wow, wow damn because you can't run.

1262
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: How that dog looks great.

1263
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: It's great, It's it's really kind of spooky.

1264
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: How that makes me want to get our dog stuff?

1265
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1266
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 10: See that's the thing with people.

1267
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: Killed.

1268
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: Difference is you want to get them stuff today.

1269
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, so people, it's not for everyone. You know, some

1270
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 10: people of course, you know, like they have a negative

1271
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 10: reaction to the actual aspect.

1272
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: Of you're dealing with the fraction.

1273
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 6: Yes, and but people don't realize like when they see.

1274
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 10: The final product, when the final outcome, it kind of

1275
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 10: change their perspective on how to look at the actual

1276
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 10: you know, ah process or the or the or the

1277
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 10: just the thought of you know.

1278
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 11: And then also we do have that we have a

1279
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 11: bunch of other options, so like a common person will

1280
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 11: come in. We have an acclamation machine for example, so

1281
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 11: you can just do the ashes, and we have an

1282
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 11: artist that can get you a custom portrait.

1283
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 5: We can do the podcast.

1284
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 11: So a lot of people go for like the generic

1285
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 11: normal kind of preservations, and then some people do like

1286
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 11: a partial preservice.

1287
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 5: Some people just want to scull bronze.

1288
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: Did you just say a podcast?

1289
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a podcast.

1290
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: Thought that's why. Yeah, yeah, oh, just like an imprint

1291
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: for him exactly.

1292
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 11: We do it like bronze, you know, podcasts or I mean,

1293
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 11: and then some people want to scull, you know, they

1294
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 11: want like a bronze skull. So we'll do that as well.

1295
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 11: Really everybody has. I mean that's the way the heart

1296
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 11: came about. One person asked for.

1297
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Like vincent price or something wanted that, like I.

1298
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 11: Can't even remember who the first person, yeah it was,

1299
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 11: but then it's it like somehow other people start to

1300
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 11: know about it, and then we just said, well we

1301
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 11: might as well.

1302
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 6: Same thing with that what the pond remember someone?

1303
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, just you know, oh my god, I would just

1304
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 10: love to get his spot, Like okay, well we'll do it.

1305
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but unless it has that yeasty smell. Yes, I

1306
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 4: mean for me dogs.

1307
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm wondering about like me, because there are there

1308
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 8: are certain animals I feel like out there, like wild animals,

1309
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 8: game animals that when you taxidermy them, they don't ever

1310
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 8: really have like the full magic. You know, they're dead,

1311
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 8: yeah I know, but like this, like like if you

1312
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 8: saw a mountain lion like that, or I'm sort of

1313
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 8: wondering about like the bleed over between this freeze dry

1314
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 8: technique and what we think of as traditional taxidermy.

1315
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: Like why are people not doing well? I guess they

1316
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: do because I remember I used to sell otters to

1317
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: a guy that would freeze, dry them, and sell them

1318
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: a long time ago.

1319
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 4: That would be wild.

1320
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean you can do can be I think

1321
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Speaker 11: the biggest thing out. Yeah, some of the chambers, a

1322
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 11: lot of the free drive chambers just aren't too huge,

1323
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 11: so you got a size issue. And then also like

1324
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 11: the amount of space that you do. You know, we

1325
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 11: could fit fifteen of these these guys in one chamber.

1326
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 11: If we fit in the mountain line, We're gonna charge

1327
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 11: you a lot of money for that mountain line to

1328
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 11: sit there four months in the freeze.

1329
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 5: Driver could have done four of these guys, four of

1330
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 5: these guys.

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01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what takes this film up your real estate yet? Squirrel?

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01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cool?

1333
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we free drives.

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01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 11: I mean I think it would great, like if you

1335
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 11: have like a carical cat or whatever, you know, like

1336
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 11: I think, because you'd have the skeletal structure in there,

1337
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 11: and I think that's what messes up those mounts a

1338
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 11: lot of times.

1339
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: I got you.

1340
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: So the forms are great, but not as good as nat.

1341
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 10: So when you order the forums, they have no no detail.

1342
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 10: They're just playing you know, from forms with no detail.

1343
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 10: So that's why you don't you don't get the you know,

1344
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 10: the ring called the expression on the that's.

1345
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: A really good point that like the the native structure,

1346
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: mean the skull, like the native structure is there, yes,

1347
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: and the pause like the structures there.

1348
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, you got all the skeletal structure, and same

1349
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 11: thing with the faces.

1350
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 5: I mean, the face is the core of the mount.

1351
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 11: So if you were to do any kind of wildcat,

1352
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just it would make more sense to

1353
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 11: have the natural skull and everything, the natural ears. I

1354
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 11: mean I've done them traditionally, but it's just your sculpt

1355
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 11: and now it's up to the sculptors, up to the artists,

1356
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 11: and it's not up to the way he really was naturally.

1357
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 7: So that dog's skull is in this mount right here,

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 7: right yes?

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys married? Yeah, we're both yeah married.

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: What do they think about your line of work?

1364
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 10: Well, they love it. I mean they're okay with it.

1365
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 10: I mean it's it's it's it's for us. For it's interesting,

1366
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 10: you know, it's it's it's fascinating. It's fascinating. It's not

1367
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 10: like even when people ask, oh, so what do you

1368
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 10: guys do? What is you know, it's just interesting to

1369
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 10: spark a conversation just on the fact that, yeah, it's

1370
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 10: so random, you know, a lot out there.

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm still fascinated by how you guys took over the

1372
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: business and even got into doing this at this level.

1373
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, this is this, you know, this

1374
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: looks incredible, amazing, and it seems like all the techniques

1375
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: that you've developed to apply to this work is just

1376
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like you were, you know, apprenticing

1377
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: for decades, you know.

1378
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think mind blow.

1379
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 11: I think it's a lot of the just the random stuff,

1380
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 11: like we're talking about that every day. And I think

1381
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 11: the studio has pushed us a lot. Yeah, because we've

1382
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 11: we've had to come up with so many ways like

1383
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 11: how I mean there's times where we've sold a job

1384
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 11: and like now, how.

1385
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 5: Are we going to do it? Yeah?

1386
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 11: They were on an elephant needed in this, you know

1387
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 11: what I mean, Like whatever it is, I'm like, Okay,

1388
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 11: it's going to take this long and make the mold.

1389
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 5: We got to do the fiberglass.

1390
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 10: We got it.

1391
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 11: So I think all those freak out moments, let us

1392
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 11: like piece it all together to be able to do something.

1393
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: Do you ever do work on on like time and material?

1394
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: Because you don't know what you're getting into.

1395
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 5: We do, but we yeah, I mean we do time.

1396
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 11: I mean we definitely we priced a lot of course

1397
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 11: material time also just what we're getting out of the

1398
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 11: way because a lot of the students, like I said, there,

1399
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 11: it's all last minute stuff. So it's not it's not

1400
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 11: like a hundred just drops off. Hey man, I'll pick

1401
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 11: it up in six months, No big deal if you

1402
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 11: go seven months. Just make sure it looks great. Whereas

1403
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 11: the studio is like, hey, can I get progress pictures?

1404
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1405
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 11: I get it, but like right now, I don't want

1406
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 11: to send you a photograph of a phone form.

1407
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing like that it's supposed to be.

1408
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 10: And then they're going to try to change the you know,

1409
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 10: the oh my god I wanted you know, and they're

1410
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 10: gonna kind of make changes while winning that we're in

1411
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 10: the middle of the process.

1412
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: And then what I meant by time materials like in

1413
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: the trades, like when I work for my buddy Ronnie,

1414
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: we do jobs that we're a bid, right, You're like,

1415
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: it'll it'll be this and if we lose money or

1416
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: make money, that's the price. Or some things that were

1417
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: more open ended, it'd be like we're gonna work on

1418
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: the project at blank dollars an hour plus our materials,

1419
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: because we don't know what we're getting into, so you

1420
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 1: normally come back with a it'll be this yes, and

1421
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: then you lose money or make money on how well

1422
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: you can fulfill. Yeah.

1423
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 11: I mean, at this point, I think we got a

1424
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 11: good idea of where it's going to land. So if

1425
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 11: we say, oh, it's gonna be whatever, sixty hundred, they'll

1426
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 11: be like, okay, well yeah, and we kind of know

1427
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 11: we're you know, what we're making on it with how

1428
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 11: much the latex is, the phone is the whether we're

1429
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 11: using natural hide or fil furs or whatever.

1430
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1431
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 7: I was gonna ask what other pets of you guys

1432
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 7: done other than dogs.

1433
01:10:52,880 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 6: Well, we do cats, hamstairs, rabbits. Rabbits beat goldfish, dragons.

1434
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 5: We didn't do a goldfish once it was in the article.

1435
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 5: I remember that.

1436
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 11: Hamsters, Yeah, hamsters, little rats, little baby rats like there's

1437
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 11: you know, sometimes the kid will have rat on naturally

1438
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 11: pass and then be like, oh my god, I love

1439
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 11: this and it will come in and we'll do it

1440
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 11: if that's what you want.

1441
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Hollywood families, keep keep you.

1442
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 5: Pet Wallaby pat horses.

1443
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 11: We've done horses of course, Yeah, but now horses are

1444
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 11: done traditionally because it's just you don't want to freeze drive.

1445
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's no, there's no.

1446
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: You guys did Roy Rot Your company did Everett.

1447
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 5: He was a tax rooms at the time he did it.

1448
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: You guys weren't even born yet.

1449
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 5: He was amazing.

1450
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I think still out of you seum somewhere right.

1451
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 11: They sold in an auction. It's I think somewhere in

1452
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 11: the Midwest now. I think it's sold for like a

1453
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 11: quarter of a million.

1454
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1455
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: Something. Have you ever done a pet cow?

1456
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 5: We did it. Yeah, we do that every once in

1457
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: a while. We do the headed cat.

1458
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a two headed cat that was natural, that

1459
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 11: was still born or whatever it was.

1460
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 5: We did that for somebody as well.

1461
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 11: A lot of longhorn, you know what I mean, and

1462
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 11: just your natural like you know, they'll keep the hide

1463
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 11: and then we'll just do the head mount.

1464
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: Well. How many pieces are coming out of your.

1465
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 5: Studio every year? I don't know.

1466
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Is there something out the door every day?

1467
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1468
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

1469
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 11: Pets, oh my pets. And I think we have rentals too,

1470
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 11: so we have. So that's another weird thing. Yeah, so

1471
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 11: somebody will come in and then we have a big

1472
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 11: short showroom with everything you can think of. So we

1473
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 11: have a bunch of fake stuff, we have a bunch

1474
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 11: of real stuff. So you can come in and you'll

1475
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 11: find like a line pole that's hinged where it's I'll swipe.

1476
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 11: So if you're working on a commercial for whatever and

1477
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 11: you need that, it'll just be like, oh, perfect, that's

1478
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 11: what I want. Boom, pick it up. We'll ring you up,

1479
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 11: you'll bring it back. It's a weak rental back off,

1480
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 11: that's all it is.

1481
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1482
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: How many employees you got now it's like six seven

1483
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: seven okay, yeah.

1484
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 4: And then a list of subcontractors.

1485
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that just seems incredible.

1486
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: Explain the subcontractor thing. There's like guys out there to

1487
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: have these particular skill sets, and what are they doing

1488
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: when they're not doing the work for you?

1489
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 10: Well, they work for other studios, so they're like constantly

1490
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 10: either you know, one studio to another.

1491
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: And that doesn't cause problems for you.

1492
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 6: Well no, not really, because we have you know what,

1493
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 6: we have a.

1494
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 10: List of many so if one's not available, we go

1495
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 10: to the next one and eventually things will work out.

1496
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 1: Give give me an example, of give me, give me example,

1497
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: give me example of a guy that's not on pay,

1498
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: not on staff, who you call yeah for special assignments,

1499
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 1: like well, I don't understand.

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1501
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 11: So like David Gross, phenomenal sculptor. Okay, right, so he

1502
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 11: he will. I think he was the one who sculpted

1503
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 11: I think the snakes for Yeah, I think it was

1504
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 11: yeah for what for Landman? So he digitally sculpted the snake,

1505
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 11: like the whole snake was digitally sculpted. He sent us

1506
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 11: the file, so he worked from home on that thing

1507
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 11: on the computer. He digital sculpt the whole thing. To

1508
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 11: our measurements, to everything. We went back and forth. He

1509
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 11: sent us a file. We three D printed the file,

1510
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 11: made a mold out of it, silicone casted the snakes

1511
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 11: that they're flexible, but wiring or whatever they wanted to

1512
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 11: do in them. And he'll float around. So then he'll

1513
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 11: just he'll do projects for another studio. But these are

1514
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 11: fect studios that he mostly works with, Okay, so it's

1515
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 11: like Hollywood studios where they'll call him and now he's

1516
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 11: got a sculpt for the new whatever film that's coming out,

1517
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 11: you know. So he just floats around. So for us

1518
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 11: it's not like, oh, they're taking our sculptor.

1519
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 5: It's no. I mean, everybody can do what you do.

1520
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 5: You know, that's cool.

1521
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: I didn't get to that episode yet and land Man,

1522
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: I just started watching it.

1523
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 3: So Philly Bob Thornton.

1524
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember those snakes.

1525
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: I watched that one. You guys ever do a black mamba?

1526
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 5: Black mom?

1527
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: Here's and kill Bill. There's a black mamba in there,

1528
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: but it's alive. But then there's like, obviously some of

1529
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: you guys work is not your work, but someone's work

1530
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: is in there.

1531
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 11: Might have been Gary at the time. Yeah, yeah, I'm

1532
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 11: not sure.

1533
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: I have to ask you about cloning, which I saw

1534
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: on your website it says inquire about cloning.

1535
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

1536
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 10: We don't obviously we don't do that in house. But

1537
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 10: there there's that company in Texas. It's called vi Agen.

1538
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, so this company in Texas called ViaGen.

1539
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: We we take them.

1540
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 11: They're amazing, I mean, they did great work, So we

1541
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 11: take the samples. We're just affiliates with them. We help

1542
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 11: them out and they help us out. So Cline will

1543
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 11: come in. The most important thing that is, you can't

1544
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 11: freeze the pet. So the pet will say your pet

1545
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 11: naturally passes away and you wanted to clone them. You

1546
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 11: can refrigerate them, but you can't freeze freeze the pet

1547
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 11: because it'll crystallize a sample and then won't be able to.

1548
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 5: Get the DNA.

1549
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 11: So that's that's one step that sometimes people kind of

1550
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 11: skip up on and then they won't be able to

1551
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 11: do the cloning. But we just take five samples, so

1552
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 11: it'll be channellly a couple from the ear, you know

1553
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 11: what I mean, small little samples and put them a

1554
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 11: little vials and we overn ad them to them. But

1555
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 11: because if we're doing the full preservation, we need to

1556
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 11: take those from specific hidden spots. So sometimes when the

1557
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 11: vet does it, they do it from like the top back,

1558
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 11: and then we get the you know, and then they want.

1559
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: To preserve their pets dimple, Yeah, it's like.

1560
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 11: And then they take huge samples when you only need

1561
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 11: like tiny little samples because they're not thinking about the preservation.

1562
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 11: They're just thinking about getting a good sample. So we

1563
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 11: take them from like the like for example, if I

1564
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 11: was to take from here, I had to go from

1565
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 11: like the inner hip.

1566
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 5: You can't see it.

1567
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 11: It's already tucked the inside of the ear really deep

1568
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 11: in the ear canal what you can't see it, you know,

1569
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 11: areas like that.

1570
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, have you ever done a pig getting suckled?

1571
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: Bal it's a little piglets.

1572
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 5: We do do the little peg within.

1573
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: I'd like that. Hey, you know, we have a big

1574
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: old pig getting suck but we have.

1575
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: Two fetuses in the freezer.

1576
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: You should give them to those guys there you go.

1577
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve killed a pregnant sow in Texas a few

1578
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: years ago and then we vac sealed a couple of

1579
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: the Yeah we still.

1580
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 5: Do you people come.

1581
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 4: In just to gawk.

1582
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1583
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's tough because you're in the middle, you know.

1584
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: I mean, it's working, but it's you know, it's nice.

1585
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 11: It's a compliment because people just want to Some people

1586
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 11: go into town and be like I heard about this place,

1587
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 11: and I'll just run around. The thing is nothing's roped

1588
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 11: off at our shop. So you can actually walk up

1589
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 11: to the polar bears, to the tigers, to the lions,

1590
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 11: and you know, just hang out with them, take a

1591
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 11: photograph with them whatever. It's not like a natural history

1592
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,879
Speaker 11: museum where you're roped off with a scene in the background.

1593
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 11: Like now you can actually come in and feel what

1594
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 11: a bowler bear feels like.

1595
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you guys can pull this off with only

1596
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: six or seven people. I mean, who answers the phone?

1597
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 10: It's between him.

1598
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: You guys are like, yeah, well, we're.

1599
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 6: Working on everything.

1600
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 11: So it's I mean, we've had we've had some front

1601
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 11: desk people, but it's difficult because they go into their

1602
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 11: spiels so fast sometimes that there's a lot of there

1603
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 11: was a lot of relay, you know what I mean

1604
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 11: between like everything where especially when when they wanted a

1605
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 11: customs say, for example, and it just takes so long

1606
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 11: to get somebody trained up to really take on that

1607
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 11: position of knowing how to because you've got to be

1608
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 11: creative on the spot. They're gonna be like, hey, this

1609
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 11: deer's got to get hit, but he's got to have

1610
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 11: a hinge and his arms got a twitch at the end,

1611
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 11: and we need it like by Friday.

1612
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 5: So what do you got?

1613
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 11: And then you know, the front desk is just gonna

1614
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 11: be like my first day.

1615
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm new here. Let you go get as.

1616
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 4: Anyway ordering a pizza?

1617
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.

1618
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 11: So because of that, I'm like, you know what, just

1619
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 11: I'd rather just picking up be like, hey, yeah, we'll

1620
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 11: have it by Friday. It's this much, we'll do it

1621
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 11: with this whatever, servo will make a little clamp thing

1622
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 11: for it.

1623
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 5: Whatever. Yeah.

1624
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's kind of it's it's we need to

1625
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 10: train someone, but it's gonna it's gonna take months. You know,

1626
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 10: we tried, I mean, and it's it's it's very difficult.

1627
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: So at this point, if you had to, like if

1628
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: you had to pursue one path, the film business or

1629
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: the pet business, like which what are you more in

1630
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: love with?

1631
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 10: Well?

1632
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 5: I love what the studios consistency of.

1633
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: But what's consistent Well, it used to.

1634
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 11: Be the studios, but then the strike starting to happen,

1635
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 11: then COVID started happening, so that that kind of made

1636
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 11: the industry go up and down, and then you got CGI,

1637
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 11: you got a I.

1638
01:19:58,720 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see.

1639
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 11: I think at this point the smart move would be

1640
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 11: leaning towards this the you know here, towards this here,

1641
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 11: towards the studios, because it's.

1642
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 5: Fine and you're just doing cool projects.

1643
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can see that.

1644
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1645
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: Do you feel that the pet getting pets stuffed or

1646
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: tax dermy or what tax dermy? What do you what

1647
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: word do you guys use, Like, what is the sort

1648
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: of line the graph line on pet preservation? Well, it's not,

1649
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: there's no way it's stable.

1650
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 10: No, well, I mean it's actually pretty, it's consistent and

1651
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 10: ground outside.

1652
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,520
Speaker 1: And the last it's a graduate.

1653
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 10: It's last five years, it's been significantly Okay, Okay, Yeah.

1654
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 11: I mean I think people think of the old ways

1655
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 11: of doing it because we got I mean we have

1656
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 11: mounts at the shop that were done dogs, I mean

1657
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 11: from the thirties and forties, these bad plaster just.

1658
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: Like newspapers coming out of the you.

1659
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 11: Can see Selthier just kind of like wire poking out

1660
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 11: the side and stuff. And I think people think of that.

1661
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 11: So I think until it gets ingrained in their mind

1662
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 11: that like you actually are going to get your pets

1663
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 11: to look like your pet, it's going to take time

1664
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 11: for people to see. And I think it's slowly starting

1665
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 11: to come out with social media and everybody being like,

1666
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 11: oh wait, actually that does look good.

1667
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1668
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And also people now like more and more

1669
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: and more not that you get your relative stuffed, but

1670
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: people now more and more act like pets are are people. Yeah, exactly,

1671
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it's like a much more

1672
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: of a trend right now to have a dog and

1673
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: pretend it's like a person. But that's but that does

1674
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: that falls apart because you don't get people stuffed preserved.

1675
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 5: Some people do.

1676
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: Is that legal?

1677
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 5: I think I've seen it done a couple of times.

1678
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 5: Not in the US. Now we get calls for it.

1679
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, we don't know if someone's called it,

1680
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 10: if it's real or they just missing.

1681
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 6: With us, but they dust.

1682
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, what do you say, just not our business?

1683
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 10: Not.

1684
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 11: I think there was a story of a girl who

1685
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 11: she cold, and I think she got it done. She

1686
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 11: was she had to get an arm amputable and she

1687
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 11: wanted to get a skeletal articulation of the arm.

1688
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, people send us those pictures of their arm skeletons done.

1689
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: There was a guy had his finger.

1690
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Done and his finger done and it was like the

1691
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: Michigan Hello, or it.

1692
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: Was he just had his finger on a pedestal. Okay,

1693
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: he had the stuffed preserved. But you don't want to

1694
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: do that work.

1695
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 11: That's not that way down. It's just you know, we

1696
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 11: just having this is not in our radar yet.

1697
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 8: Well you think it's you think it's stressful to have

1698
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 8: someone come in and look at the pet for the

1699
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 8: first time and be like.

1700
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: Nailed it, dude, your finger, you know what, damn or

1701
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: your uncle if you had your uncle done. You're like,

1702
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: I want him to look like he did when he

1703
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: was reading.

1704
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 8: And you're like, just so you know, we've never done

1705
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 8: this before.

1706
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: Tell you though, I'm blown away by the quality of

1707
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: that dog. I mean all like I know, we've been

1708
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: like having a couple of laughs about stuff. I mean

1709
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: just from a from a I mean from a technical

1710
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,440
Speaker 1: like a technical standpoint, that dog is incredible.

1711
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 8: The minute I the minute I saw it, it changed

1712
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 8: my entire perspective on the idea of stuffing.

1713
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 10: A pet, right, Yeah, that's that's like instant.

1714
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: What you don't I guess what you don't have And

1715
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: it's and it's probably it's a it's a trade off.

1716
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: It's because it's so perfect. You can't get the soft

1717
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 1: you can't get the feeling of having stuffed it. No, yeah,

1718
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: because then it's not gonna you know what I mean.

1719
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 1: It's like it's either like is it gonna be soft

1720
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: and squishy or is it gonna look like absolutely like

1721
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: a like a dog.

1722
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, sometimes people want to do like a soft version

1723
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 11: of their pet things. We'll do it for television and film,

1724
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 11: but with a pet, it just won't last. So I

1725
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 11: see we get requests for it all the time, and

1726
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,839
Speaker 11: I'm just like, you can't get the structure.

1727
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I guess people kind of love the thought of,

1728
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 10: you know, having their kind of like coddly pet. Like

1729
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 10: you're saying, floppy floppy. You know, it sounds good in theory,

1730
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 10: but yeah, when it comes down to the technicals and

1731
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 10: the durability and and and also looks, it's not gonna

1732
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 10: look bad, you know what I'm saying.

1733
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 11: I think it's these hips, like for example, like you

1734
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 11: got this with these hips that those ten highs that

1735
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 11: are sitting in this room right now, you'd have to

1736
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 11: soak them to get a good stretch to be able

1737
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 11: to get full hips right, to get a soft hand.

1738
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 11: You can't soak them, So you're never gonna get that

1739
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 11: stretch to get to what to get a like if

1740
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 11: you have those soft hands to keep it soft and pliable,

1741
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 11: you can't get it wet.

1742
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1743
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: Now you can see that bobcat back I wetted him

1744
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: and stretching back out. Rand or grab that bobcat.

1745
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 5: He's pretty stiff now.

1746
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Or it's like it's a trade off either you either

1747
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: want to get them back like I put them back

1748
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: on the stretcher boar. Yeah, but feel it you can

1749
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: tell oh yeah, oh yeah yeah bummer.

1750
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 5: So that's the thing. It's like, yeah, it looks like

1751
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 5: a too. There's no structure. If you just stuff this

1752
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 5: for cotton mounting, you're just like, oh, here's a little

1753
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:19,520
Speaker 5: look like.

1754
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: You got the wrong way, Randall, belly out, buddy, No

1755
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: show them spots. Yeah, it looks incredible. I would I

1756
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: would definitely see that. Like I get the point you're saying.

1757
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: If someone knew that they could have and I never

1758
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen them alive. But I mean I look

1759
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: at enough dogs over the years. If someone knew that

1760
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: they could have a dog look that good, that they'd

1761
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: be more inclined to do it because they're probably picturing

1762
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: their mind, Like when you go into a pawn shop

1763
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: and there's like crazy looking we did a whole calendar

1764
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: called fucked Up Old taxidermy, Right, they're like picturing that

1765
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't have my dog. Bug Eye.

1766
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 8: Sydney used to always talk about getting her our first

1767
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 8: dog stuffed.

1768
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 1: Preserved, preserved.

1769
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, well he's he's ashes now.

1770
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 8: But I always I would always say to her, you're

1771
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 8: gonna walk in there and you're gonna look at his lip,

1772
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 8: and it's just gonna be like, you're never gonna get

1773
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 8: that dog lip right, And you know you spent twelve

1774
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 8: years like messing with his lips and face and like,

1775
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 8: you know it, so intimately it's got to look like

1776
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 8: that or else it's just alienating.

1777
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my kid got a bear to spring,

1778
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: a nice bear, and I call him. Why did I

1779
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: call him about this? Oh? I know I was out

1780
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: of town, but I was talking to text terms and

1781
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the deal. Everybody always gets them growling

1782
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: like a rug. It's always that he's got his mouth

1783
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: wide open. And I'm like, I've come to a p

1784
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: I've done the same thing, but I've come to appreciate

1785
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: the closed mouth rug because when you see bears, and

1786
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I've watched great many bears, they're generally not running around

1787
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: with their mouth. Okay, yeah that's true. And I'm like,

1788
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 1: so you could have it look like all the teeth

1789
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: and everything, or you could take my recommendation and we

1790
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: could get him with his mouth closed. How do you

1791
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: want it? What do you think? He said, he's fifteen.

1792
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, of course.

1793
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a pet in a in an

1794
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: aggressive posture?

1795
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 5: We got it.

1796
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 11: We got a request. And I can't name his name.

1797
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 11: He's a famous person, you know what I'm talking about.

1798
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he wanted his dog and it's aggressive.

1799
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 11: He has a cat, but it's somewhat of a wildcat,

1800
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 11: so I kind of understand it a little bit.

1801
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 5: It's a domestic look.

1802
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 11: It's like a Savannah cat mixed with I forgot savan

1803
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 11: of something else.

1804
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 5: And he wanted cat.

1805
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, and he wanted it on a branch, but kind

1806
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 11: of aggressive, almost like it's gonna pounce on something.

1807
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: Are you gonna do it?

1808
01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1809
01:27:59,280 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 5: Definitely? Yeah?

1810
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Who was it? Well? Tell me what tell me the

1811
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: tell me the initials. I'll tell you my initials are.

1812
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 8: I mean some of the charming pet cats is that

1813
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,839
Speaker 8: they don't like you, right, like some of the pet.

1814
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 4: Cats that they come in and run away. So I

1815
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 4: get it.

1816
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: But I would also picture just from a business standpoint,

1817
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: unless it's cost prohibitive, Like I'm guessing people are going

1818
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: to be people that are emotionally attached their pet are

1819
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 1: going to have a looser wallet than someone that's getting

1820
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: five or six things a year because they're a big hunter, right,

1821
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna look at it differently. But I would picture

1822
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: that if someone wanted, like, like, I like river otters

1823
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot, so I catch an otter. I would I

1824
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: could picture world in which I'm like, no, man, I

1825
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: want some bitch like that an otter. Are you doing

1826
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff too?

1827
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1828
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think we're doing we're doing I mean, it's

1829
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 11: just a pelt, but a seal pelt, right now, that seal,

1830
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,839
Speaker 11: that seal pelt. We're doing a couple of seal pelts

1831
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 11: for the Mammal Care Center. So we get calls too

1832
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 11: from nature centers and.

1833
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: What are you doing with seal pelts.

1834
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 5: They just wanted to preserve it as in an exhibit

1835
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 5: a high yeah, yeah, like.

1836
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: A height like what's hanging around in here?

1837
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 10: Right, But it's going to be obviously freeze dry, so

1838
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 10: it's going to be stiffing on a board, you know,

1839
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 10: like on a nice board.

1840
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: Freeze drud, yeah, yeah, freeze dried hide.

1841
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 11: You know why that because we wanted to keep the

1842
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 11: the fins beautifully intact. You know, I didn't want to

1843
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 11: have to like recreate them in a poor matter where

1844
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 11: it's not keeping the structure the integrity of it, so

1845
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 11: that we kept the fins the bottom fins aside fit you,

1846
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 11: I mean, and then we laid it out flat. So

1847
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 11: now when you go to see it, you get the

1848
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 11: real anatomy of the actual fin and it's not just

1849
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 11: my version of it having not hung out with the seals.

1850
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 1: Can you hand that cat back over your mint rental? Yep? Sorry,

1851
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: Let's say I had a cat and I, uh, like,

1852
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: I have a cat, and I just skin it and

1853
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: flesh it, okay, and I send it to you, and

1854
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to get it tanned. I just want

1855
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: to get it freeze dried. Is it all the same? Like,

1856
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 1: I just get it back and it's freeze dried, and

1857
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: I can hang it up for the rest of my

1858
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: life on the wall, pretty much.

1859
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you'd have to flesh it still, you

1860
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

1861
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send it to you flesh and dried.

1862
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's flesh and dried.

1863
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, but you don't want to salt it

1864
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 11: because we don't we don't know, Okay.

1865
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: No, everything we do we flesh it goes on a

1866
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: wooden board. Well needs a flip, but no, it's like

1867
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: it's just beam. Yeah, yeah, it's like flesh and beam

1868
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: and then it goes to the tannery like that. Yeah,

1869
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: so does the world in which, like I said to

1870
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 1: you and I wouldn't have any shrinkage.

1871
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 11: No, you wouldn't have shrinkags. But it would be stiff.

1872
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 11: It wouldn't be nice and flopping like this.

1873
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Stiff are stiff now maybe stiff? Still? Yeah, stiff was

1874
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: a board.

1875
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you'd lose all the it'd be like these ears.

1876
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: So that's not a good replacement.

1877
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 11: No, no, now you want to do it just a

1878
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 11: commercial tanner And yeah.

1879
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 1: All right, I was thinking about get excited for a

1880
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: minute there.

1881
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 8: I was thinking about different animals you get freeze dried,

1882
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 8: and I thought a big old.

1883
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Beaver sitting there. That's what I think. The tails haze

1884
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: right now is doing a big fifty pounder. Yeah he's

1885
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: from the bust and with the bust, and really they

1886
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: want that big beaver done in a three point football stance.

1887
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: But it's a hefty beaver.

1888
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 8: But I'm just trying to picture freeze drying the tail

1889
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 8: because there's so much fat.

1890
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 5: But yeah, get rid of all that fat. You have

1891
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 5: to skin that tail out, tail out, get it all out.

1892
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 11: Take as much as you can, just leave, leave the

1893
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 11: best structure you can while still keeping the you know,

1894
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 11: removing all the making sure the integrity is still there.

1895
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Is gonna laugh. Yeah. Now, I don't want to pry,

1896
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 1: but but I'm gonna help me out. But not like

1897
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: other than the prime. I want to pry, but I

1898
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: don't want to. I just like I'm sensitive of getting

1899
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 1: into it, like getting into big you know, Like someone's

1900
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: saying to me, like, so, what do you how much

1901
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: do you sell a book for? Yeah, it's like I

1902
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: don't know, man, dude, it's complicate question. I don't know

1903
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: if they're telling you, help me understand what I'm looking

1904
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: at here with.

1905
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 6: This dog, probably around the range of.

1906
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, No, yeah, it's you kids told me

1907
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: eight and I would have been like it makes sense.

1908
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought my mind went to ten.

1909
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, three grand No, So it's we that's a lot

1910
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 11: of work, it is, but we we.

1911
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 10: Really know.

1912
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: Their prices.

1913
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know all around, like, yeah, do you

1914
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 1: have competitors?

1915
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 11: Not necessarily, I mean there's a guy on the East coast.

1916
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 11: He's great as a friend of ours.

1917
01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: You send businesses a way.

1918
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we've worked together.

1919
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 11: He's freezed out some stuff for us as well before

1920
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 11: yeah before, you know, years ago he used to freeze

1921
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 11: that stuff for us as well. He's the only other

1922
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 11: guy that really I think is really in the in

1923
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 11: the business, but he's way out east. So it's I mean,

1924
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 11: there's there's a lot of people everywhere. There's business for everybody.

1925
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: That's what That's kind of what I was getting at

1926
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: with why I thought the price be more is because

1927
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought the price be more because it's there's a

1928
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a scarcity, yeah, or a special circumstance

1929
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know.

1930
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, definitely, I think, well, yeah, that's.

1931
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: A very reasonable it's very economical, economical dog.

1932
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 10: That's why I think that's why we have a high

1933
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 10: volume of pets, because it's it's pretty reasonable.

1934
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, you're not gouging, you're not gouging.

1935
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 4: What about a hamster? What are we looking at?

1936
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 1: What?

1937
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 6: Twelve hundred, twelve nine hundred and twelve hundred bucks?

1938
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 4: Way more value in the dog?

1939
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean the hamster is just it's

1940
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,440
Speaker 11: more such, just because you've got to be slip easy.

1941
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Here on a hamster slips easy.

1942
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 11: Well because they thought so quickly, you know. I mean,

1943
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 11: you know, you got your son and whoever that was

1944
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 11: mooring this little hamster or whatever it is, he's gonna he's.

1945
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 5: Gonna be crying for a while you're consoling them.

1946
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 11: And then by the time you bring the hamster in,

1947
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 11: if you didn't freeze right away, then we gotta do

1948
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 11: the skin, and we gotta do everything. And sometimes is

1949
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 11: you know, you gotta be careful with the slip it.

1950
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 11: You gotta do it fast.

1951
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Now some party, you some party when a parent comes

1952
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 1: in with a hamster and they're like, little Jimmy's so

1953
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 1: upset about his hamster. Some party you has to be thinking, uh, well,

1954
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: little Jimmy is just gonna have to get over it.

1955
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: But that's bad for business. So you're just like, sure,

1956
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: bring it in.

1957
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 4: You don't have to say anything.

1958
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 5: It's fun, no, but it's you know, we get it.

1959
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 10: We get the attachment. Sure, you know, I have a dog.

1960
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 6: I'm attached and.

1961
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: You can do your own dog.

1962
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 10: Uh, probably something, you know, I'm not sure what, but

1963
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 10: I will definitely do something.

1964
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 6: You know, create some memorial for him.

1965
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 11: Really yeah, how about you yep, pets? Yeah, well I

1966
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 11: had a cat. It was eighteen years oldly he passed away.

1967
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 11: He passed away Memorial Day, just know yeah yeah.

1968
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, but did you freeze it well.

1969
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 11: When he passed Yeah, yeah, it's you know, and we

1970
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 11: have the acclamation machine. Thing is he was already eighteen,

1971
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 11: He lost a little weight, he wasn't in his prime.

1972
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 11: So it's not like even if I wanted to preserve him,

1973
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 11: like you know, and I will advise people of that

1974
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 11: as well, Like if you come in and you got

1975
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 11: an old boy who's you know, not in the best shape,

1976
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 11: I'll tell you know, maybe that preservation might not be

1977
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 11: the best.

1978
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 5: Thing for you.

1979
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: And hunting, we'll say that would have been a nice

1980
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 1: buck next.

1981
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 5: Year, right, yeah, year years ago.

1982
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1983
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 8: Do you ever have people who want to fix things

1984
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 8: on their dog? Like when I've got labs, so by

1985
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 8: the time they're eight or ten, they're covered in lumps

1986
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 8: and you can usually see them. The people come in

1987
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 8: and like, could you just smooth that big fatty bulge.

1988
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 5: On the side of his ribs the tumors?

1989
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, these are pets, So there's a lot

1990
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 11: of that.

1991
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:04,839
Speaker 5: There's a lot of hair loss sometimes.

1992
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1993
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 11: The hardest thing is actually because we make the studio

1994
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 11: side with the f first stuff, they you know, iv

1995
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 11: e marks from the vet because when they do surgeries

1996
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 11: and stuff, they shave. Yeah, so we got to do

1997
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 11: a lot of the hair transfer work for flock and

1998
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 11: work that we do for the studio fake stuff, and

1999
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 11: we bring that over to the.

2000
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: You can make it if a dog had a shave surgery, Yeah,

2001
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 1: you could try to get it back to where it

2002
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: looked right.

2003
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2004
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's where we create the furd. He do that.

2005
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so we do you.

2006
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: How do you dye the fur? Like you got to

2007
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: take some hair and get it the right color.

2008
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 5: We having a ray of like a lot of fur

2009
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 5: and im it's short hair.

2010
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 11: We do this flocking method with longer fibers, like like

2011
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 11: this dog for example, say that ear was slippage, there

2012
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 11: was some slippage, we'd use long fibers.

2013
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 10: We'd just flock it block it. It's kind of electromagnetic.

2014
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, feel like there's would be so much information your

2015
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: guys heads that if all the people that worked there died,

2016
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: no one's gonna walk back in there. And fired his

2017
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: business back up.

2018
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what.

2019
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like a groad, like, if you're a mechanic,

2020
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: everybody could die, you're gonna find you know, other guys

2021
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: could come in and write, But on this I feel

2022
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: like the institutional knowledge.

2023
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just like just all that junk.

2024
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 11: And that's what's difficult too, even for us to find

2025
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 11: the right hands when we want to bring somebody else

2026
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 11: on is you know, because sometimes like I don't want

2027
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 11: to you know, we don't want to be doing everything

2028
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 11: all the time, you know what I mean. But there's

2029
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 11: times where I'm like, but it's got but it needs

2030
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 11: to look a certain way. So until I could find

2031
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 11: that hand that can do and we have some great hands,

2032
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 11: but until I can find all the pieces to make

2033
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 11: sure like that the quality quality controls everything, it's got

2034
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 11: to go out looking perfect every time, you know. So

2035
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 11: that's you know, so yeah, there's a fear of like

2036
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 11: we step away, who's gonna if you did?

2037
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Right now? I'm sorry ahead, So.

2038
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 10: That's another kind of like a problem for expansion because

2039
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 10: we want to expand you know, we are expanding, we

2040
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 10: get whether we want or not.

2041
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 6: But the problem is sometimes.

2042
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 10: We're so overwhelmed with so much you know, work, that

2043
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 10: it's kind of we try to find, you know, like

2044
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 10: he says, the hands. But it's very difficult, you know,

2045
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 10: to to to find that person that's gonna you know,

2046
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 10: get it or or it's in stay you know and

2047
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 10: like it obviously, because you kind of have to, like

2048
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 10: you know what you're doing.

2049
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't.

2050
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 8: You can't just tell them to go watch a couple

2051
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 8: of YouTube videos to learn no, some techniques.

2052
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it helps if they watch a video,

2053
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 10: but it's all it's all handsome.

2054
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 4: Very specialized.

2055
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: Where where do you look, like, I bet you'll get

2056
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: from coming on here. You'll get resumes from people do

2057
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: but you probably get resumes all the time. And but

2058
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: but if you had to go look like if you

2059
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: had to find a higher I mean, I would assume

2060
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: you're going to look in the traditional tax Deurmy pathway, right.

2061
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, Joe, I think, Yeah, I mean Joseph was a

2062
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 11: great hire. He just came in out he was moving

2063
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 11: from Arkansas to California, and he walked in one day

2064
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 11: with a photograph of all his mounts. Good guy, straight up,

2065
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 11: stand up dude, and he just he's like look, check

2066
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 11: it out. Just moving out here. I'm gonna be out

2067
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 11: here soon. I think he was sad and he wanted

2068
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 11: to be a pastor. And now he's in a I

2069
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 11: hope he's a pastor in Iah. So he was there,

2070
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 11: He's talking me, I'm gonna be here for four years

2071
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 11: if it's okay with you. Here, here are my mounts.

2072
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 11: He was phenomenal, so talented.

2073
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: Great four years out of Arkansas.

2074
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 11: At Arkansas, stayed in Los Angeles, went to the Master

2075
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 11: Seminary or whatever it was, and then put in great work.

2076
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 11: And then we kind of taught him the studio side

2077
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 11: of it because he was he was more from the

2078
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 11: traditional tax tomy side of it. So it was like,

2079
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 11: but we got to rush this, you know what I mean,

2080
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 11: Like these are all you know, we do little tricks

2081
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 11: to kind of skip a lot of you know, because

2082
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 11: sometimes you gotta cut corners to make things happen for

2083
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 11: film that you wouldn't do with like a Honting mount.

2084
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: Because of the deadline.

2085
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2086
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 11: So, but he was great, you know, but it's difficult

2087
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 11: to come across people like that who have that talent,

2088
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 11: natural skill, integrity, interineity. Just you don't even have to

2089
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 11: you just turn over and he's already doing the right thing.

2090
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 8: And there probably aren't that many people coming from taxidermy

2091
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 8: school that are like Hollywood.

2092
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: Right, that's where Yeah, that's the other thing is, you know,

2093
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of at least in our world,

2094
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are into taxi ermy, you know,

2095
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: are want to want to live in rural areas because

2096
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: they like to hunt. Frank that's where a lot of

2097
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: their clients are because they're doing hunting moons, you know,

2098
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: like like their bread and butter is white tailed. Do

2099
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: your shoulder mounts.

2100
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, well

2101
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 11: we'll get our mounts, but we get a lot out

2102
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 11: of state. You know, people still ring stuff in a

2103
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 11: like Colorado, New Mexico Brooks. Yeah, but just you know,

2104
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 11: all around California, we'll get some. It was a bit

2105
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 11: decent last year just because there was good rainfall, so

2106
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 11: it was a little bit better. But it's just a

2107
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 11: little four keys for the most part.

2108
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: You're not gonna but you'll do you'll do those too, yeah.

2109
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 5: Y yeah, yeah, yeah as well.

2110
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, huh, how many hours you work a week depends well.

2111
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 6: Surprisingly it's pretty pretty normal schedule.

2112
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 10: You know. It's well, only when we have a certain

2113
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 10: project that is due and it's it's it's going to

2114
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,480
Speaker 10: require you know, weekend or maybe.

2115
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 6: Long days nights.

2116
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 10: It happens, but we try to keep it as normal

2117
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 10: as we can.

2118
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, our hours are pretty much NIGHTE to form and Friday,

2119
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 11: which are short hours. But if there's a big project

2120
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 11: that comes in, if it's worth it to stay, it's

2121
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 11: worth it to stay.

2122
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: And it's really never.

2123
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 10: A night to four, you know, we say four, but

2124
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 10: you're still there after, be there at five thirty, you know.

2125
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're still able to keep some

2126
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: normal Yeah, with all that movie work, you're still to

2127
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: keep a normal life.

2128
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 6: Yeah we tried.

2129
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2130
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: All right, man, what am I forgetting to ask you

2131
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: about you SHO would have asked you about trying to think.

2132
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 5: Freeze round fish? Now we don't know the fish.

2133
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 6: That fish, no fish, I thank you pretty much.

2134
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 10: Got it.

2135
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Has won't touch fish either. Yeah, stuck on that.

2136
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 5: You know, they just you know what.

2137
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: He's got, what he you know, what he does, he's

2138
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: got what he does that he likes doing. And I

2139
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,719
Speaker 1: think he was telling us. I think he was saying

2140
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: he's not a fish man and fish text him is

2141
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 1: weird now because there's no part of the fish.

2142
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

2143
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: It's just like like you could there's there's no part

2144
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 1: of the fish.

2145
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 5: Now.

2146
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 11: We have this guy, Robert, he was Roberts fish Mounts

2147
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 11: for years. I think he retired now, but we bought

2148
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,799
Speaker 11: his whole old collection. So we have like a thousand molds.

2149
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,919
Speaker 11: I mean you're talking about.

2150
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Keeping all this stuff.

2151
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, we have a little warehouse up north, I mean

2152
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 11: outside of the super expensive area, sway up north out

2153
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 11: of Los Angeles, and there's a sixteen foot whale mold. Yeah,

2154
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 11: like shark molds, you know, shark molds, I mean leather

2155
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 11: bag turtle like.

2156
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2157
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Does she just walk into your warehouse? No? Non, just

2158
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: dig around looking for something you swear must be in there.

2159
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we have them all marks. So everything's long.

2160
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 10: So everything it's kind of a twelve is.

2161
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 5: Going to be silicone.

2162
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 11: Whatever the salmon you know section you know, so it's

2163
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 11: that's all marked up.

2164
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 8: One question I had earlier was what is your store

2165
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 8: look like? Is it in like in an industrial park?

2166
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 8: Is it on a street that people walk up and down?

2167
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 8: Like where's the I'm just trying to picture in Hollywood.

2168
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 8: The text dermy shop, like do you get foot traffic?

2169
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 10: Do you? So it's kind of it's kind of are

2170
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 10: next to you. It's kinda mostly industrial area, but then

2171
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 10: we have a pathway for bikes and people walk there

2172
01:43:55,520 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 10: to right in front of the shop. So yeah, some people.

2173
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 10: Sometimes we have the you know, the roll up door open.

2174
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 10: They could see from across the street and they just

2175
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,799
Speaker 10: look and come in like spars you know, their attention,

2176
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 10: you know, so they like just walk in and check

2177
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 10: it out. So we do get some foot foot traffic.

2178
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 10: People don't really walk out on the on the sidewalk,

2179
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 10: right there's really nobody walking on the sidewalk, but they

2180
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 10: have that pathway to walk, so that's where they.

2181
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 6: Yes, And there's a we're.

2182
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 10: Next to a city yard, La city yard, you know,

2183
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,440
Speaker 10: one of those big yards where they keep the trucks.

2184
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 6: And and and then some other studios right there.

2185
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's there's a lot of studios kind of around there.

2186
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Speaker 11: It is kind of like an artsy somewhit artsy area,

2187
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 11: but it's not in the business.

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01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 5: It's not like in Hollywood.

2189
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 11: It's Northalk, so you have a little bit more open

2190
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 11: in the more industrial space. And then and my buddy's

2191
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 11: next door mary door gym, So it is like it's

2192
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 11: like an m M A gym, which is easy because

2193
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 11: then I can go from here and I can go

2194
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 11: work out there.

2195
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, dude, I get over there every couple of years

2196
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: on to come in and say, yeah.

2197
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 5: Man, I would love to come check it out.

2198
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: We should have done this there.

2199
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we thought.

2200
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: We know, we kicked around trying to come to your place,

2201
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: but just like scheduling was kind of hard, just a

2202
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of we' said, a lot of

2203
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: travel this summer and stuff going on, but our original

2204
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: intension was to record in your place.

2205
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 6: Well, next time.

2206
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 2: We're there, we'll just we'll tack it on to a

2207
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 2: schedule and we'll do another episode.

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01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, that'd be great. We'll come out there and

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01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: do a thirty minutes. Yeah, man, I'll tell you though,

2210
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I can't bring it up enough. That dog is unbelievable, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,

2211
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 1: that's cool. It's a really nice I mean, like I said,

2212
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: you guys are good sports about having some you know,

2213
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 1: about having a couple of laughs. The Holy ship Man.

2214
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: The dog speaks for itself that's why it's it's incredible looking.

2215
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, We've had a lot of strange objects and things

2216
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 8: passed through the studio, and this is like there's like

2217
01:45:59,200 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 8: a power to that.

2218
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, dog, I wish you could leave that dog here,

2219
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: but probably not a good idea.

2220
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 10: It could work something out.

2221
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 3: Rental.

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01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh do you guys have uh do you guys have

2223
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: cats and dogs in your rental area?

2224
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2225
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. Sometimes they'll down and hide or whatever

2226
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 11: it is if they just.

2227
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, the neighbors. You know, I got a neighbor's cat

2228
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 10: that you know, died and he said, you know, take it.

2229
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 10: Maybe I'll see it in a movie some someway, you know.

2230
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,640
Speaker 10: Sometimes perfect it.

2231
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2232
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever grab stuff from the side of

2233
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the road that looks interesting?

2234
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:38,839
Speaker 2: Uh?

2235
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 10: No, No, but usually it's it's really uh beat up,

2236
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 10: you know, it's like run over and it's guts everywhere,

2237
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 10: So it's not Yeah.

2238
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 4: You just go to those inspiration movie work exactly.

2239
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 5: Photographing. Yeah, that's gonna be this. It's actually I think

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Speaker 5: it's illegal in California.

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: It is, well, I don't know, because a lot of

2242
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: states have been making it that you can there's been

2243
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: an odd trend there's there's two trends that sort of

2244
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 1: surprise me and cultural hunting. Cult hunting, culture trends, that's

2245
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: not the right word, hunting legal trends. One trend is

2246
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: to let kids hunt younger and younger and younger. Right,

2247
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: that seems that seems like counter than what would actually happen.

2248
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: You could picture that they would make it that they

2249
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: had to be older and older and older, like make

2250
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 1: it more strict. But there's a tendency that let kids

2251
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 1: to let it be a family decision. There's also a

2252
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: surprising tendency to loosen roadkill salvage laws rather than make

2253
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 1: them more strict. Interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like

2254
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: if you if you said to someone who didn't follow this, like,

2255
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 1: do you imagine over the years it became more strict

2256
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: or less strict to pick up roadkill? They would go

2257
01:47:56,080 --> 01:48:01,480
Speaker 1: absolutely more strict because everything's more strict. Sure always Yeah,

2258
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 1: so they like like our state where we're at right now,

2259
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: used to I mean I would do it anyways. My

2260
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: friends are doing it anyways as civil like civil disobedience.

2261
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 1: I don't know what to bring up, like rolls of parks,

2262
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 1: but like civil disobedience to like pick up deer and

2263
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: eat them, because you'd be like guilty as charged like

2264
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: a dead deer. The guy in front of.

2265
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 4: Me him, you know what's the problem with Thatways, now.

2266
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 1: You can right, yeah, we're our said, remember that whole area.

2267
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was a couple of years ago.

2268
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: It was like state after state Oregon. I think maybe

2269
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: state after state after state said Okay, if someone hits

2270
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 1: it and you want to put it to use, you

2271
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 1: just got a call, and which makes total sense, makes sense.

2272
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 5: I agree, because anybody, you think, anybody tries.

2273
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: To purposely truck it, that's what you know, what they

2274
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: thought of here because here you have here, you have

2275
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: we have a lot of large like a lot of

2276
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: somewhat rare large mammals. And so there's some that are exempt,

2277
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: meaning like take like a big horn sheep, a bighorn sheep,

2278
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: like a big mature big horn sheep ram is going

2279
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: to have a lot of value, would have a lot

2280
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: of black market value. And so they're they're they're not

2281
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 1: part of the roadkill rule. It's just the more common stuff,

2282
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 1: dear elk moose, like you know, more sort of like

2283
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 1: so you know, common animals, high food value, but they've

2284
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: pulled out some of the stuff that they don't want

2285
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 1: to give people a reason to act like they got

2286
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: in their truck, meaning like, oh, I road killed a mountain.

2287
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:35,600
Speaker 5: Go.

2288
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 1: They're like, you road killed a mountain, go, So you

2289
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 1: can't there's no excuse to have certain animals. I think

2290
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but it's like they don't want to create

2291
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: a pathway for you to have certain rare animals in

2292
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: your possession by claiming that whatever happened to them. There's

2293
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: probably some part of the thinking on it. The other

2294
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 1: part of it which is interesting here. I'm not sure

2295
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: if it's true in other states. Take the whole thing.

2296
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: You can't pick and choose. So our buddy Yanni, he

2297
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 1: had a road killed moose, big critter. You can't gut

2298
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 1: it on the side of the road like when you

2299
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: take it, you take it. So you got that whole

2300
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: son of a bitch has to be loaded onto a trailer.

2301
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: You can't just go get the parts you want. You

2302
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: can't just get like the good meat and leave it

2303
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 1: laying there. They're like, nope, holding moose, which de incentivizes

2304
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: some you know, you got to go get a flat

2305
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 1: bed trailer.

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01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, and a lot of help.

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01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 6: You know.

2308
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make it a little bit hard, but picture

2309
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 1: if not, you just jump out of your truck and

2310
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,560
Speaker 1: pull the gourmet cuts and then you get like a

2311
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: butcher moose on the side of the Yeah, that'd make

2312
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: for an interesting drive. You know, you're like watching dudes

2313
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: on the side of the road, watching dudes on the

2314
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: side of the road.

2315
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 5: Do that road chefs.

2316
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, man, I'm glad you guys came. Man, it's

2317
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

2318
01:50:58,680 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 10: Respect for all that.

2319
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: It's such a cool business, so unique appreciate it. How

2320
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 1: often do TV shows call you guys wanted to do

2321
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 1: like a reality show about your shop?

2322
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 5: All the time?

2323
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you say?

2324
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: No?

2325
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2326
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 4: At the point, yeah, they just finish each other's thought there.

2327
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good job, there was no you finished.

2328
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 5: She was right.

2329
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 1: So you get calls and they're like, hey, we want

2330
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: to do a reality show and blah blah blah, people

2331
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: crying about their pets.

2332
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, just about the shop and the whole thing.

2333
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 11: And it's just the reality world is a is a

2334
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 11: wild world where they just infiltrate on your personal life

2335
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 11: so much. And I like to keep my personal life personal.

2336
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, And also I think it'll inhibit a lot of

2337
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 6: our you know, every day.

2338
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: You think.

2339
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 5: For sure it would.

2340
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:54,799
Speaker 10: Kind of slow down our you know, production or process everything.

2341
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 11: So and then trade secrets like it's been. The shop

2342
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 11: has been around since nineteenth too. There's a lot of

2343
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 11: stuff that stays within those walls. So I don't want

2344
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 11: to be the guy that exposes everything after over one

2345
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 11: hundred years of the company. But hey, guys, I want

2346
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 11: to make a little bit of money and show my

2347
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 11: face off so that, you know, and ruin the whole business.

2348
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 5: You know, it's bigger than.

2349
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 4: Us on the pet side of things. It's so sensitive

2350
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 4: it is. It's like if you had a funeral home

2351
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 4: and something approach to.

2352
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 8: The other funeral home would probably get stricking a lot

2353
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:28,919
Speaker 8: more clients.

2354
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go get waivers for everybody. Yeah, you know,

2355
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 1: your your uncle's part of a reality TV show. Can

2356
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: you shine your camera crew just sitting there for the paper.

2357
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, yeah, I could totally picture it. I'm

2358
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: not at all shocked that you guys get That's got

2359
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: to be half your phone calls as people wanted to picture.

2360
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2361
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well thanks for coming in again, man, I love it.

2362
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna come visit your shop.

2363
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:53,440
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2364
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it anytime.

2365
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Krim.

2366
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, we appreciate you.

2367
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: I mean, Krim books, all the guests, but this one, this.

2368
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 2: One was, this was it wasn't my idea. I didn't

2369
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 2: see that article first. That was Berkman.

2370
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: This is I'm really glad it happened.

2371
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 4: Trophy guests.

2372
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: That's the way to the trophy.

2373
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2374
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: And shouldn't you ever wind up with a cat or

2375
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: dog that doesn't have a home, we would be happy

2376
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: to take it off your hands.

2377
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 5: I'll send you something.

2378
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: And I think maybe are you gonna send your dog

2379
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 1: down when it passes? I mean, I would be cool,

2380
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know. You got a couple of years

2381
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: to figure it out.

2382
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a couple of years figured out hopefully.

2383
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 5: All right.

2384
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: Man, Uh, if you get a box from Seth, keep

2385
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: it cold, all right. Thank you, Thank you,