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Speaker 3: we're also talking about the action that Aaron Torres saw

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Speaker 3: this week in Las Vegas with the Players Era Tournament. First,

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Speaker 3: took in the basketball that was in Las Vegas this week,

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Speaker 3: specifically the Players Era Tournament. What was your impression of

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Speaker 3: the I guess now somewhat controversial tournament that is headlining

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Speaker 3: the non conference portion of the college basketball schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was so for people who don't know

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Speaker 2: lot about it. Most of the best teams in college

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Speaker 2: basketball that have played during you know this week that

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Speaker 2: we call Feast week.

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Speaker 4: We're in Vegas for this Player's Era Tournament.

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Speaker 2: The difference between this tournament and as best as I

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Speaker 2: understand it, every other tournament that has played this time

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Speaker 2: of year, is that in the NIO World, teams are

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Speaker 2: actually paid to come and be part of this tournament.

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Speaker 2: And it's the opposite of say a Maui Invitational, which

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Speaker 2: everybody knows where. You know, not only is the school

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Speaker 2: not paid, but obviously it's very costly to get to

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Speaker 2: Maui and to stay there for a group of fifty

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Speaker 2: sixty people, whatever it ends up being, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: costly to it's just costly to stay there. And so

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Speaker 2: this tournament is different. It got a lot of pushback

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Speaker 2: because frankly, this was kind of the weakest Maui tournament

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Speaker 2: that we've had. Some of the other tournaments haven't been

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Speaker 2: as good, and and you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: try to be quick here get it back over to you.

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Speaker 2: The basketball was great. The basketball was great. You know,

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Speaker 2: I myself saw easily three to four Top twenty five matchups.

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Speaker 2: You know, Houston, Tennessee on Tuesday was an awesome game.

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Speaker 2: Gonzaga Alabama on Monday was an awesome game. Michigan looks

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Speaker 2: like maybe the best team in college basketball after winning

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Speaker 2: its last two games by thirty plus points. The issue

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Speaker 2: is that, just about from my perspective, everything else kind

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Speaker 2: already talk of expanding this not only in teams next year,

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Speaker 2: ticket prices. I obviously had a media pass, but ticket

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Speaker 2: prices were roundly criticized because you know, they were very

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Speaker 2: the schedule was a little bit funky. And I know

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Speaker 2: I'm going long, Dan, but I'm trying to give everybody context.

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the complaints about tournaments like

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Speaker 2: event had two predetermined opponents Monday, Tuesday, and then Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: You didn't find out who you were playing on Wednesday

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Speaker 4: And so I think from.

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Speaker 2: The coaches that I talked to, there was a lot

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Speaker 2: I'll throw it back to you, but that's essentially the

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Speaker 2: gist of the basketball was great. I think everything else

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Speaker 2: that doesn't even discuss the impact that it had on

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Speaker 2: these other tournaments that are being played by I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's I think there's so many different layers to it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm really curious about the point of the Hawaii

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Speaker 2: I just want to say one quick thing is that

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Speaker 2: in there. We love Maui. We hope there's a way

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Speaker 2: it keeps going. We also couldn't turn down the cash

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Speaker 2: The people that have experienced it love it. And I

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Speaker 2: So I didn't want to cut you up, but I

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Speaker 2: think that's important context. It's not just us as fans.

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Speaker 2: It's the people, the players, the coaches, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But the comparison that I use is in college football,

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Speaker 3: if you would look back at their schedulescifically when Barry

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Speaker 3: they're Why is Hawaii on the schedule?

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Speaker 3: Those are those are reasons that they would play games

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Speaker 3: And so now when I look at this college basketball thing,

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Speaker 3: Aaron fans aren't traveling to every single game unless there

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Speaker 3: is a close tie. But what I loved about Maui

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Speaker 3: the gym held five hundred people, you know, or whatever

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Speaker 4: No, it was it was the athletic departments at department.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So like if you're hypothetically so all burn

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Speaker 2: won Maui last year and you don't get paid, so

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're talking about a travel party, you know, administrators, coaches, players,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's forty people that you got to get

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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. So the fans love it, and to

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Speaker 2: be clear, the administrators, the players, everybody that I talked

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Speaker 2: to who has experienced that tournament and I actually have

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Speaker 2: never been there, they love it too. It was just

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Speaker 2: for financial feasibility in this new era where everything is

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Speaker 2: about raising money for players. If you can get a

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Speaker 2: million dollars to go to Vegas as opposed to spending

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Speaker 2: is to bring forty fifty people to Maui, you have

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Speaker 1: Got ya, Okay, I'm glad you clarified because I was.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised because the gist and I'm like Jesus,

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Speaker 3: isn't costing that much? And especially the reason I brought

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Speaker 3: such a great way to try to help that island

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Speaker 3: couldn't hold the tournament what they're two years ago.

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Speaker 4: And I would also add this.

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Speaker 2: It's almost the exact opposite, is that I actually talked

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Speaker 2: a tournament in the Bahamas. It wasn't the Atlanta's tournament

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Speaker 2: played at the Bajamar Resort. But I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because I literally asked the Saint John's fan. I was like, so,

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Speaker 2: said exactly what I said. They were like, listen, basketball

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Speaker 4: And they literally said.

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Speaker 2: Like, if it was in it, if it was in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: or if it was in the Bahamas, it'd be a

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Speaker 2: no doubt. But these fans were actually unsure of if

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Speaker 2: point out further, they're gonna expand beyond the eighteen teams

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually gonna make fan attendants worse than

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Speaker 2: it was this year, because hey, you could plan at

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Speaker 2: least for this year. My team's playing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: At some point, I'm gonna go out Sunday. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: leave Wednesday, or I'm gonna leave Thursday, or I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: leave whatever next year. I mean, if they start this

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Speaker 2: the basketball. You know, it's almost like sometimes we talk

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Speaker 2: you get all this crazy realignment stuff happens, and you say,

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Speaker 2: but once the games get played, we forget about all that.

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Speaker 2: Once the basketball was played, it was a great product

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Speaker 2: on the floor, but they have some logistical things that

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Speaker 2: they really got to work. I didn't get the sense

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Speaker 2: it again next year.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was did you see Trilly Donovan's idea?

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Speaker 3: And do you know who Trilly Donovan is? You don't

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Speaker 3: have to say who it is because obviously it's a secret,

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Speaker 4: Are I don't actually know who he is.

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Speaker 3: Don't know who he is, but brought up the point

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Speaker 3: of why not have why not have a situation where

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Speaker 3: you know, we have games going on in Orlando right now,

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Speaker 2: The only thing I'd really add. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: Yes, I as four Kings is what he called it.

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Speaker 2: Maui Invitational is everything the NBA wishes.

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Speaker 4: The NBA Cup was. NBA Twitter was not happy with

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Speaker 1: That, of course not.

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Speaker 2: But it's exactly to your point. There are so many

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Speaker 2: There's no bracket, and it's like, you know, Maui, whether

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Speaker 4: Oh I just saw you know whoever it was. It

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Speaker 4: Sudden they were playing those teams. And so it's not

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many other sports. I mean, it's like,

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Speaker 3: It's like the default, and at some point it's not

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Speaker 4: Remember like two or three weeks ago when Georgia beat Texas.

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Speaker 2: Oh Texas, and Iowa has changed Texas They're soft, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, no, george is just actually a really

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Speaker 2: good team. Not everything is about guys not playing hard

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Speaker 2: because they're getting paid. And so I got the same

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Speaker 2: vibe this weekend. I didn't see a team that I

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Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, they're not gonna win a

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Speaker 2: million dollars, so they don't care and they're not trying.

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Speaker 2: But I do think anything everything right now in college

444
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Speaker 2: sports is about revenue generation, and so, yes, to your point,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you know, Yoxel Lendenburg, the best player

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Speaker 2: on Michigan is sleeping better tonight because it's team won

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Speaker 2: a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that.

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Speaker 2: The administration is pretty clearly, you know, happy with the

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Speaker 2: performance that was that was out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a nice it's a nice bonus,

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Speaker 3: but that's not what they were playing for at the

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Speaker 3: I know soon we may part ways for this friends Giving,

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Speaker 3: Coco that Ian Roddy has put on. I don't give

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, is there alcohol in this?

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Speaker 3: I think Coco would be apropos here sitting backabies. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't know, nice little coffee. I know you want

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Speaker 3: Dan Byer. Would you prefer coco or would you prefer

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Speaker 3: Manzi's coco erin Torres.

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Speaker 2: It depends the time of day, you know, if it's

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Speaker 2: six am, and you know, I'm just trying to people.

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Speaker 2: Guess people don't read newspapers anymore, but you know, just

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Speaker 2: trying to start the morning off on the right foot,

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Speaker 2: on a on a frigid morning, then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably the opposite.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: I got to you know, be responsible till at least

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Speaker 4: ten am.

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Speaker 2: So now if it's you know, if I'm on vacation,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's uh, you know, I'm in New

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Speaker 2: York City or something, I'm going to see the Christmas tree,

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Speaker 2: then maybe I take Manzi's first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get a little you know, warmth.

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Speaker 3: You know, they call it liquid courage, but can also

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Speaker 3: warm you up inside as well. I'm just saying, if

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Speaker 3: you're sitting home things are winding down, Yeah, why not

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Speaker 3: why not cap it off with an ice nice warm

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Speaker 3: in the United States. Winter storm hitting the Midwest, moving

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Speaker 3: out east to the northeast. So yes, winter is here

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Speaker 3: in some parts of the country. Cowboys facing a third

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Speaker 3: and three right now at their own ten yard line,

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Speaker 3: but they're up on the chief seventeen to fourteen. Early

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Speaker 1: To Dallas to open the second half.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Dak Prescott and Crew Decks got a

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Speaker 3: touchdown pass the Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens just dropped

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Speaker 3: Yours College Football Playoff Committee has announced that the format

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Speaker 3: the discussion over the possible format change will not be

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Speaker 3: their deadline of December first.

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Speaker 1: They've pushed that back to mid January. Mid to late January.

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Speaker 3: Aaron, as they try to try to decipher what the

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Speaker 3: new format will be. Will it expand from twelve to sixteen,

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Speaker 3: schools tells me that they really want to expand if

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Speaker 3: they're adding this these last couple of months and are

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out ways to do so. But instead

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Speaker 3: of talking about the sixteen team bracket, I would actually

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Speaker 3: like them to keep it at twelve, but I have

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Speaker 3: a tweak to it. When the rankings came out this week,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of discussion about the rankings, but what

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Speaker 3: I want to see is where are certain teams when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the bracket. And the bracket is laid

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Speaker 3: out in a fashion where Texas Tech would be the

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Speaker 3: five seed, tu Lane would be the twelve seed, Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame in Oklahoma would be the eight to nine Now

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech and Tulane. The winner of that game would

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Speaker 3: go on to face Georgia Tech Oklahoma. Notre Dames winner

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Speaker 3: would go on to face top seed at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: And before Ohio State would gripe about that possible matchup,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Oregon would like to have to say a

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Speaker 3: word after what happened last year. And that's kind of

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Speaker 3: where my format change comes. With all of this. We

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Speaker 3: have the first the top four teams getting buys Aaron,

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Speaker 3: I am giving you ready for this? The top three

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Speaker 3: teams buys Okay, and the group of five champion would

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Speaker 3: face the number one overall seed in the bowl game.

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Speaker 3: So think about that. It allows the number one overall

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Speaker 3: seed to play the weakest actual opponent. And the reason

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Speaker 3: I thought of this is because we have heard so

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Speaker 3: much on the seeding and people say, I'd rather be

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Speaker 3: Georgia in the scenario, I'd rather play Texas Tech or

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Speaker 3: Tulane as a four seed and possibly get the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to play Tulane in the quarterfinals, as opposed to having

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Speaker 3: to play say a Notre Dame or Oakland Homa or

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Speaker 3: in Oregon's case last year, in eight seed in Ohio

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Speaker 3: State in the quarterfinal rounds. It gives an added bonus

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Speaker 3: to your number one team that the Group of five

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Speaker 3: champion would end up being the twelve seed and playing

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Speaker 3: the number one overall seed.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 4: So it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think it also in some ways, you know, you

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Speaker 2: could argue you never want to play any extra games,

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Speaker 2: put extra you know, pressure on your body, whatever.

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Speaker 4: But it was also a big gripe last year.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, all four teams that got the first

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Speaker 2: round by actually lost their subsequent game. They didn't get

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Speaker 2: the they didn't get the home game, they were out

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Speaker 2: of rhythm. And then, obviously, again to your point, because

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Speaker 2: of how the seeding worked, Oregon and Georgia specifically as

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Speaker 2: the SEC and Big Ten champs were punished because you know,

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Speaker 2: they had to face some pretty good teams in the

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Speaker 2: second round of the college football playoffs. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to think a little bit more about it.

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Speaker 2: But in addition to in some ways having the easier path,

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Speaker 2: even with the extra game, it also you get the

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Speaker 2: home playoff game the revenue that comes with that. We

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Speaker 2: just talked a second ago about how important revenue generation

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Speaker 2: is in this new era of college sports. And then

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Speaker 2: I think it's one less week off at a time

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Speaker 2: when maybe you just don't because because remember everybody gets

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Speaker 2: a bye after the season. But then you start talking

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Speaker 2: about that second week where there's kind of this stretch

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Speaker 2: in between where it's really not a week, it's really

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Speaker 2: like eight or nine days because you're not playing again

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Speaker 2: until the thirty first or the first, and so all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, now you're talking about, you know, twenty

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Speaker 2: days or so that you're off.

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Speaker 4: As opposed to just a traditional quote unquote bye week.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the other variable as well, is

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Speaker 2: as weird as it sounds, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: the coaches don't like the fact that the first the

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Speaker 2: teams that get the first round by gett an extra

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Speaker 2: week off because it gets you so far out of rhythm.

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Speaker 1: In this scenario.

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Speaker 3: That matchup, as you said that angle, there allows a

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Speaker 3: matchup of you would have a four seed play an

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Speaker 3: eleven seed and the five seed would play the ten seed.

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Speaker 3: And last year, I don't think we can look back

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Speaker 3: at last year's bracket.

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Speaker 1: Because of the Boise State.

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Speaker 3: Scenario of the state, yeah, but specifically of Boise State,

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Speaker 3: because of them being the group of five and getting

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Speaker 3: the buy like they did. To have that scenario I

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Speaker 3: think would be it was. It just threw everything out

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Speaker 3: of sorts. And as much as I would love for

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Speaker 3: Tulane to have success, Memphis to have success, Boise State

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Speaker 3: to have success, ultimately you're looking for the best games,

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Speaker 3: right and I think that if you had that first

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Speaker 3: weekend without a group of five in it, it would

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Speaker 3: be a pretty good weekend. You would have matchups like

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Speaker 3: Miami against Georgia, Alabama against Texas Tech, Oklahoma against Ole

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Speaker 3: Miss Notre Dame in Oregon. That would be the matchups

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Speaker 3: in the way that I seeded the bracket with Tulane

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Speaker 3: playing Ohio State in whatever bowl game. If the rankings

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Speaker 3: were to hold up, I just think that it it

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Speaker 3: gives more of a benefit to being the best of

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Speaker 3: the best instead of maybe allowing say a four seed

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Speaker 3: in this case, Georgia getting an advantage. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know how it's all going to shape out of who

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Speaker 3: the fore seed is. But if people are saying I'd

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Speaker 3: rather be a four than a one, then there's something

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Speaker 3: that's probably wrong with your bracket.

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Speaker 4: Don't disagree, Yeah, I just think big picture the god now, the.

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Speaker 3: Big picture is going to be sixteen. Like I think

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Speaker 3: that that's why they've extended it. They're going to figure

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Speaker 3: out some way to do sixteen. It's just a matter

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Speaker 3: of if it's going to be the four and four

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Speaker 3: or the five, you know, plus eleven.

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Speaker 2: Let's make a bold prediction here. Somebody in the SEC

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Speaker 2: is going to have three losses. They're not going to

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Speaker 2: be good, and it is going to be an argument

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Speaker 2: by the time we get a bracket on them being out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's Alabama who had the time, you know, if

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Speaker 2: win over Vandy, Tennessee and Georgia. Maybe it's Alabama at

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Speaker 2: nine to three. Maybe it's you know, I'm already starting

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Speaker 2: to see this Texas argument of if they.

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Speaker 4: Didn't schedule Ohio State, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Well, also, how about you don't lose to Florida?

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Speaker 2: Like, can we have that part of the conversation too,

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Speaker 2: So I just bring it up because there's always gonna

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Speaker 2: ultimately gonna lead to eventually sixteen teams. I guess my

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Speaker 2: only thing is I'm fine with sixteen if we stay there,

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Speaker 2: But it just feels like, you know, this is why

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Speaker 2: I'm anti NCAA tournament expansion, because you know, people say, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: what's four more teams?

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Speaker 4: It's like, but it's not gonna stop at four.

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Speaker 2: And you know, once you open up that door, it

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Speaker 2: opens up the door to do it again and again

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Speaker 2: and again. And that's my thing with sixteen is, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with sixteen, but how soon until we start

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Speaker 2: talking twenty four although they are already talking twenty four

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Speaker 2: and so.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I think to your point, going and extending this

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Speaker 4: It's just how many teams and what is the format.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? MANSI?

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Speaker 6: There is a lot going on right now.

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Speaker 8: We are in Dallas for the second NFL game on

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Speaker 8: today's Thanksgiving Thursday. Right now, Kansas City has the ball

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Speaker 8: at Dallas's forty four yard line. It is third and fourth,

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Speaker 8: but the Cowboys are up seventeen to fourteen and they

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Speaker 8: are halfway through the third quarter. Patrick Mahomes is thrown

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Speaker 8: for one hundred and thirteen yards and two touchdowns. Dak

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Speaker 8: Prescott has thrown for one hundred and sixty yards one touchdown.

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Speaker 6: He also has one interception.

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Speaker 8: Earlier today, though the Packers defeated the Lions in Detroit.

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Speaker 8: Thirty one to twenty four was the final score, green

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Speaker 8: Bay going for it on fourth down three times, getting

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Speaker 8: it all three times. Jordan Love threw over two hundred

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Speaker 8: and thirty four yards and four touchdowns. Keep in mind

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Speaker 8: that lines wide receiver i'm and ross Saint Brown left

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Speaker 8: the game with an ankle injury. It is not considered significant,

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Speaker 8: but Dan Campbell, the head coach, did say that he's

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Speaker 8: likely to miss one to two weeks and they're going

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Speaker 8: to know more tomorrow. Michael Parsons the first NFL player

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Speaker 8: in history to have twelve or more sacks in each

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Speaker 8: of his first five NFL seasons, and of course still

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Speaker 8: to come the Bengals and the Ravens and yes, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 8: You can see video of him on social media arriving.

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Speaker 8: He is expected to start for Cincinnati. Other news out

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Speaker 8: of the NFL, Well Giants quarterback Jackson Dart has cleared

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Speaker 8: concussion protocol. He is set to play Monday night football

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Speaker 8: against the Patriots. The Bears have activated cornerbacks Kyler Gordon

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Speaker 8: and Jalen Johnson from injured reserve. They're facing the Eagles

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Speaker 8: tomorrow and the Eagles wide receiver Davonte Smith off the

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Speaker 8: injury report, so he should be good to go. Steelers

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Speaker 8: expect quarterback Aaron Rodgers to return for a Week thirteen.

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Speaker 8: He was a full participant, but Buccaneers quarterback Baker mayfield

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Speaker 8: status is still up in the air, and Cold quarterback

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Speaker 8: Daniel Jones suffered a fracture in his fibula, but he

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Speaker 8: will attempt to play through it. According to the NFL Network.

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Speaker 8: For Week thirteen against the Texans. In college football, Missouri

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Speaker 8: has agreed to a six year contract with coach Eli Drinkwitz.

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Speaker 8: When it comes to the NBA, Warrior star stuph Curry

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Speaker 8: suffered a quad contusion Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: Night, so he's gonna miss around a week or maybe

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Speaker 8: They don't believe it was anything serious and it's just

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Speaker 8: going to depend how his quad response to treatment. Also,

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Speaker 8: thunder All NBA guard Jalen Williams off the injury report.

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Speaker 8: He's gonna make his season debut against the Suns on

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Speaker 8: Friday night in OKC. He's been recovering from a risk

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Speaker 8: surgery from rist surgery that he had right after their

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five title run Let me Know. I Actually

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Speaker 8: I had one real quick Josh Hart's stuff, New York

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Speaker 8: Knicks star His stuff was stolen out of his hotel

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Speaker 8: an hour after he dropped it off, Like someone stole

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Speaker 8: a bag out of a hotel that he's been staying

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Speaker 8: and it had one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 8: worth of watches and jewelry, jewelry, but it was like

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Speaker 8: he dropped it off, came back an hour later and

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Speaker 8: the bag was gone, so terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 4: I saw this. I know, we gotta get a break.

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Speaker 2: How does a hotel not have security cameras? They were like,

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Speaker 2: there are no suspects at this time. I'm like, how

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Speaker 2: is that possible in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 8: Don't I don't it seems and like I said's like

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Speaker 8: you're gonna get caught. He literally was gone for an hour,

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Speaker 8: Like what are we doing anyways?

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Speaker 3: I don't think people even care if they're on camera anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like the ring, you know, doorble like r Yeah, they right,

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Speaker 3: who cares, They're like, they'll take this stuff. They get caught,

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Speaker 3: they get caught, the stuff's probably.

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Speaker 4: Gone or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's too bad.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Mazi so much for today.

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Speaker 3: Happy things giving to you and yours Manzi and I

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Speaker 3: like you to be together tomorrow, Black Friday Edition here

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Speaker 6: I can't go shopping.

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Speaker 3: Putting a cap on another great friends Giving episode. He

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Speaker 3: is eron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. I love spending it

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Speaker 3: with you, Aaron. It's always a great four hours as

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Speaker 2: You know, like you said, I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: you before we get to your ultimate Lane Kiffin prediction.

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Speaker 3: I do want to make this point, and it's funny

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Speaker 3: and how quickly things change. I tease that I may

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Speaker 3: become a Kansas City Chiefs fan. Has nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with jumping on a bandwagon. But I loved that the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs punted on fourth and four from the Cowboys forty

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Speaker 3: four yard line. They were down three. The only problem

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Speaker 3: is is Dallas just went on a ninety plus yard

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Speaker 3: drive and has likely retaken the lead as they review

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Speaker 3: a touchdown pass from Dak Prescott to Jake Ferguson. So

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Speaker 3: I loved Kansas City playing field position, but I got

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Speaker 3: burned Aaron Torrez because the Chiefs are like, now, we're

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Speaker 3: not going to go for it on fourth and four

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Speaker 3: down three. You know Dan Campbell would have hacked Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 3: Monzie's been telling you got three fourth down conversions today.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid's like, we're gonna punt it, We're gonna play

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Speaker 3: get good football. Couple of penalties here, a couple of

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Speaker 2: You know Dan the wrong, you know the right result

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Speaker 2: doesn't justify the wrong decision, and I hate that, right

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Speaker 2: is that you know, Dan Campbell, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: some of his fourth down decision making earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: If you convert and it works, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: it's the right decision. And I don't think it was

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Speaker 2: the wrong decision for Andy Reid just because, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm with if you, I'm not gonna you know, we'll

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Speaker 2: save the analytics are ruining sports debate for another non

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Speaker 2: friends Giving day when the vibes are not so as

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Speaker 2: high as they are right now. But but yeah, doesn't

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Speaker 2: make it the wrong decision just because it didn't work

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Speaker 2: out in your favorite.

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Speaker 3: We've got about ninety seconds, by the way, my box

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Speaker 3: score tells me that they're going to overturn the touchdown,

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be an incomplee pass.

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Speaker 4: And he was right the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you see it, you read was right.

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Speaker 3: But the Cowboys will face a third and three from

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs thirteen yard line. Again, they're up seventeen to

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Speaker 3: fourteen four minutes to go in the third. All right,

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Speaker 3: does Lane Kiffen ultimately stay or go. When it comes

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Speaker 3: to the ole Miss rebels.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chris Gordy a few hours ago has me

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily the case. I think if

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Speaker 2: you lose, it makes it a lot more complicated to

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Speaker 2: come back. I think if you win thirty to six

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Speaker 2: and after the game or Friday morning, you say you

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Speaker 2: want to come back, I think a lot of you know,

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Speaker 2: things are mended. I you know, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: and say I'll be quick. I'll say he goes to

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Speaker 4: I don't wan back at Old Miss.

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Speaker 3: I find it crazy that Ole Miss wouldn't want him

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Speaker 3: back Like this is I'm sorry. It just comes with

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Speaker 3: the territory, right like they are just there. There are

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Speaker 3: like we're Old Miss and Lane Kiffin was being Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 3: But to think ultimately that Ole Miss people wouldn't want

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Speaker 3: him back, I think is crazy. I think that ultimately

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Speaker 3: LSU is just too difficult to pass up. I said

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Speaker 3: a week ago, I thought, hey, he could coach through

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Speaker 3: the whole playoffs and do the thing and be the

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Speaker 3: old miss head coach and then just move on to

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Speaker 3: the next stop. I don't think that that is even

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Speaker 3: remotely a feasible option now, and so I think he's

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Speaker 3: probably gone after tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all say very quickly. There's a war where they

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Speaker 2: could be in the SEC Championship game as well.

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Speaker 3: Insanity that would be crazy Cowboys debating on whether to

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Speaker 3: go for it on fourth and three. Odd couple are next.

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving from all. Let's here at Fox Sports Radio.