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Speaker 2: You had pockets, you did something, hot cloth, any pocket.

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Speaker 1: The fact is this is a genuine pop culture icon,

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Speaker 2: like the best boosh's She's like at least twenty things

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. There's always going to be a thing.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me started I We Love Him received a

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm out an apology.

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Speaker 3: I've never had so much fun in my entire life

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Speaker 1: Sexy Wizard was what we got. But now we're going

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Speaker 3: I went once.

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Speaker 1: Ride your children. This is great. Yeah, so what happened?

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Speaker 1: You stopped the ride? Found so this was a great day.

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Speaker 3: But I you know, it was like just hanging out.

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Speaker 1: With a baseball cap.

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Speaker 3: We did the ride, all was good, and walked through

443
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Speaker 3: the gift shop which you have to go through to

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Speaker 3: get out, and it's like me with the Tricera toop

445
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Speaker 3: scene is playing and all these dolls that I didn't

446
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Speaker 3: know exist of you that look like me, and it

447
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Speaker 3: was a little akward, but you.

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Speaker 1: Most have dolls. You're a doll. You're a lego. I

449
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Speaker 1: have a mini fag, so you're you're a doll in

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Speaker 1: a pH And Laura Bowen is talking about the Velocity.

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Speaker 1: So if you ever do get down to Orlando, Florida,

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Speaker 1: the Velosa Coaster is the Jurassic is the Jurassic park

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Speaker 1: ride they have in Islands of Adventure And B. D.

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Speaker 1: Wong does the pre show excellent. It's great pre show work.

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Speaker 3: I can't im it's a.

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Speaker 1: Full immersive experience and it's a full on roller coaster

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Speaker 1: that launches through a raptor enclosure. Pretty cool stuff down

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Speaker 1: in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 3: Stuff I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm going if you have any interest in pre show

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Speaker 2: stuff for the is this thing on ride?

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Speaker 1: I think you would do great work in that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. I mean I'll sit and watch yeah.

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Speaker 1: Next to Yeah, you would have the on screen romance

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Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think now that you think about it,

467
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Speaker 3: like in hindsight, it's obvious, right.

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Speaker 1: So I guess the question for you, like, is there

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Speaker 1: one person you haven't worked with that you're dying to

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Speaker 1: work with?

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if I said someone I have worked

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Speaker 3: of course, I mean, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But this is a podcast for manifestation. By the way,

474
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Speaker 1: many things happen as a result of things being said. No, okay,

475
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Speaker 1: it just it would be harder to manifest that. But

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Speaker 1: choose your own adventure.

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Speaker 3: Here, listen, you always have I'd like to be with

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Speaker 3: the Beatles.

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Speaker 1: You'd be great. There's four movies, guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's hard. I've I did work with de

481
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Speaker 3: Niro a scene, but I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Gotten into it.

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Speaker 3: We really gotten into it. That would be a great pleasure.

484
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Speaker 3: I honestly, I think about filmmakers first because when I

485
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Speaker 3: was six, my mom, Diane lad was in the film

486
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Speaker 3: Alice doesn't live her anymore for Martin Scorsese, and I

487
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Speaker 3: was on set. I was that summer with her on

488
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Speaker 3: the movie, and it was an extra on the movie,

489
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Speaker 3: and he was the person who turned to my mother,

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Speaker 3: which believed me, I heard, because they had to do

491
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Speaker 3: nineteen takes and I had to eat nineteen ice cream

492
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Speaker 3: cones in the background of amazing scene and it's tough,

493
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Speaker 3: and it gets tough, actually actually fourteen ice cream and

494
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Speaker 3: he was like, whoa, your daughter just ate nineteen ice

495
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Speaker 3: creams and didn't throw up. He goes, she's going to

496
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Speaker 3: be an actor, you know. And I was six, So

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Speaker 3: all I knew was this man. I'd been around all

498
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Speaker 3: summer and they were doing this thing that I fell

499
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Speaker 3: in love with, and I didn't I actually didn't understand

500
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Speaker 3: and acting. What I fell in love with was this

501
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Speaker 3: man is figuring out how to film it, and these

502
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: actresses are creating their characters and together they're like feeding

503
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Speaker 3: off of each other and like, tell that story about

504
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: that one time you said your friend and they start

505
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Speaker 3: building it, improvising, weaving lines from the scene into other

506
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Speaker 3: stories and getting to the truth of a moment. And

507
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Speaker 3: they were in there and he let me be I

508
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: was looking through a doorway. They're in a in a

509
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Speaker 3: toilet stall in the back of Mel's diner, and I

510
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 3: was watching them just play together, and I thought, I

511
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Speaker 3: want to do that where you're with your friends telling

512
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Speaker 3: stories together, and so I fell so in love with that.

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Speaker 3: So I would say the person I probably would want

514
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Speaker 3: to the most would be Scorsesing just to do.

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Speaker 1: A closer that does feel like a perfect one to wat.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, because amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, your memory on this is so clear and

519
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: obviously formative, but it just so then I guess to

520
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Speaker 2: like this answers the question that I had earlier, which

521
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Speaker 2: is like how how like how firmly grounded are are

522
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Speaker 2: you in those memories? And it seems like you are

523
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Speaker 2: ten toes down all the way through? And is that

524
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Speaker 2: the year that you went to the Oscars with with

525
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Speaker 2: your mother? Yeah, like seven years old? Yeah, because she

526
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Speaker 2: was nominated because yeah, And and then I think the

527
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Speaker 2: other stories that like then you would go back with

528
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Speaker 2: her and your grandmother for rambling Rose. Yeah, like this

529
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Speaker 2: this kind of like I love I love this thing

530
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Speaker 2: about like you sort of as it were, like growing

531
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Speaker 2: up in this industry, as your neighborhood because you get

532
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Speaker 2: to see the process, you get to see the celebration

533
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Speaker 2: of it, and then you also get to transcend that

534
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Speaker 2: and just know that, like this is a nice part

535
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: It is more about the.

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Speaker 2: Work than anything else. Yeah, not even about like the

538
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Speaker 2: going to the thing, although that's nice.

539
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Speaker 3: And fun, Yes, I have to say. I mean, I

540
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: just feel so lucky that I had that childhood experience

541
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: at the time I did, because the neighborhood would be

542
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Speaker 3: the true description of it. First of all, actors weren't

543
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: making money. Movie stars were making right, not that much money.

544
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: You know, it was a craft and everyone made a

545
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: little to go work in independent films, certainly in the

546
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: seventies into the eighties, and then became the blockbuster and

547
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: the industry changed. But watching my parents' work, you know,

548
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: you would make a movie. And I grew up in

549
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Speaker 3: what felt like a small town, and I would go

550
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Speaker 3: to my parents' friends' homes that were incredibly well regarded

551
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Speaker 3: and famous, and they would be in their duplex or

552
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Speaker 3: they're small house or you know. But it wasn't like

553
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Speaker 3: fancy luxury, the glamor the word no and poparazzi like

554
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: there was you went to one event, which was the

555
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 3: premiere of your movie where there were photographers. You did

556
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Speaker 3: the Tonight Show and maybe you were on the cover

557
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Speaker 3: of American Film magazine. And then you know, in independent film,

558
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: suddenly there was interview and you do interview. But that

559
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Speaker 3: was kind of it.

560
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Speaker 1: It wasn't industry with at all. Industry at all.

561
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Speaker 3: And then there was the Oscars and eventually the Golden Gloves,

562
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Speaker 3: but there were only a couple of award shows. So

563
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Speaker 3: and there was no social media. There was no and

564
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Speaker 3: I think for actors, the whole idea of the craft

565
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Speaker 3: of method acting and at that time this group of actors,

566
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Speaker 3: many of whom came up together at the Actor Studio,

567
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Speaker 3: was about invisibility. It was about kind of going deep

568
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Speaker 3: into this character and being unrecognizable. And now it's it's complicated.

569
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Speaker 1: Now you got to come on here and on.

570
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Speaker 3: This show, you know, to say to you, because that's

571
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Speaker 3: how I was raised, Like, I didn't see you when

572
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Speaker 3: I was on the set of But it wasn't you,

573
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't your energy. You were even when

574
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: we were saying hi between takes and stuff. You were

575
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: in the character and it was so beautiful and he's

576
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: a gorgeous and amazing and so funny and such a

577
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Speaker 3: great friend to her. You know, like it's this full

578
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Speaker 3: being things, but it wasn't Matt Like that's great acting,

579
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Speaker 3: you know, and you're you just were in that moment

580
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: which is so beautiful to watch and so fun you

581
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: want to lose yourself and you know it.

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Speaker 1: Actually, the reason I say it's the most fun job

583
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Speaker 1: I've ever had is because I was. We were telling

584
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Speaker 1: Chris then it's rare, I think to go into hair

585
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Speaker 1: and makeup and come out and don't see yourself and

586
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Speaker 1: then you go out on the set and it's on

587
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Speaker 1: the lot. It's this idea. I know. We just talked

588
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Speaker 1: about how back in the day there was the glamour

589
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: wasn't the word, but to me, there was like this

590
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Speaker 1: really fun element of glamour in terms of like you

591
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: really are are someone else. You walk out on the lot,

592
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: the tram goes by, and you're like, wow, this can

593
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Speaker 1: still happen. And I think a lot of us that

594
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Speaker 1: are starting our careers, like are feeling a little pessimistic

595
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Speaker 1: about whether or not that can happen again. And I

596
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Speaker 1: would say, like, you being such a leader in the industry,

597
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Speaker 1: Like what are your reflections right now, and like what

598
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts about you know, where we're at.

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Speaker 3: I think that if the people with the money either

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Speaker 3: have integrity, which would be awesome, and and there are

601
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Speaker 3: always a few who do that's true, and who are

602
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: kind people who care about art and culture and understand that,

603
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: like if a country loses its culture, it loses the country,

604
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: so like you know, exactly so so I am a

605
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Speaker 3: believer in that. But I think that if even if

606
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Speaker 3: they don't know art, that they want to give the

607
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: money to people to tell their stories and understand that

608
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Speaker 3: stories are important, then we're in really good shape and

609
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: we have to keep telling the stories. But I remember

610
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Speaker 3: Billy Wilder won the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Writer's

611
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Speaker 3: Guild and Guys Sunset Boulevard, the Apartment some like it hot,

612
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: like a master has given us like the great gifts

613
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Speaker 3: of our life and film. And everybody was waiting for this,

614
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Speaker 3: you know. And I'm paraphrasing because I don't know the

615
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: exact words, but this was the idea. Everybody's waiting for

616
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Speaker 3: his grand you know, five minute speech to teach us

617
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Speaker 3: about cinema and how to keep bit a lot, and

618
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: he got up and he said, you own a pool,

619
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Speaker 3: they own.

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Speaker 1: You Wow, And he got off. Whoa this?

621
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Speaker 3: And that is the answer that should be the answer

622
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Speaker 3: to the question, which is like when you need a

623
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Speaker 3: lot of stuff or to pay for the stuff you

624
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: got that's just going to cause you a lot of stress.

625
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: You then gotta do the thing, you gotta pay the piper.

626
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Speaker 3: And so that's the challenge is how do we hold

627
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Speaker 3: space to do what we love, to tell the stories

628
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Speaker 3: that matter? And I think the way we're going to

629
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: get to do those as fewer people are able to

630
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Speaker 3: go to the movies at thirty eight dollars a ticket

631
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Speaker 3: or you know, take their whole family to see something

632
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Speaker 3: they love. You know, for smaller independent films, certainly it's like,

633
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Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna have to make those movies for

634
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Speaker 3: a much smaller budget than I think in the last

635
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Speaker 3: five years people have had the privilege of having this.

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Speaker 2: This is completely edifying and the singer talking about with

637
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Speaker 2: Billy Wilder, you've talked about how like people in your parents'

638
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: generation are just desperate to find work, book a couple

639
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: of jobs a year so they can still qualify for

640
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: their fucking health insurance. It's it's about like material stuff

641
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: that can like keep like a home, about like a

642
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: roof above people's heads, get them like the health care thing.

643
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: It's just these these basic necessities that are being like

644
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: slowly taken away from all of us at various levels

645
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Speaker 2: of the business. And like this is this is exactly right,

646
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Speaker 2: like what you're saying, Like if the people with the

647
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Speaker 2: money can redistribute that in a way that helps it

648
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Speaker 2: in the most basic way, then that changes everything.

649
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Speaker 3: George Clooney is an amazing person, and I've spoken a

650
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Speaker 3: lot about this, you know, the question of sort of

651
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Speaker 3: when you're number one on the call sheet, right, how

652
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: does that money get redistributed? Because anyone on that set

653
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: should be paid and have their health care insurance paid,

654
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Speaker 3: and have you money to do a line in a movie,

655
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Speaker 3: money to be there for the day, and please God,

656
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: may we keep background players and extras, because truly, so

657
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: many actors get their health care insurance for people who

658
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: don't know they get coverage by booking even to be

659
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: a background extra, even though they're a incredible actor or

660
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: actress who've worked their career, that one day or two

661
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 3: days on that movie gives them healthcare coverage for a year.

662
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: And guys, the crazy thing is, we're talking about the

663
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: actors who we all know and have loved in films

664
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Speaker 3: for or our favorite star of a TV show for

665
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: twenty years who's now eighty, whose health is decclining, and

666
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: there's no retirement plan. Unlike a lot of unions, including

667
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: a fire's secretary at Omaha Steaks and retired and would

668
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: have healthcare coverage for the rest of my life, actors

669
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: don't have that luxury, which is nuts, and our union

670
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: should be changing that.

671
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: This is crazy.

672
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: So even with my parents and all of their friends,

673
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: the people who raised us on movies and television, they

674
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: have to worry about not being able to go to

675
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 3: the dentist or if they go to the hospital. There's

676
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: no not going to be coverage for those bills.

677
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: It's terrifying. Yeah, mess, it's a mess.

678
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: So yes, redistributing, figuring out a way to keep the

679
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 3: work going, figuring out a way to keep theaters vibrant

680
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: and streaming alive, which gives you know, a lot of

681
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: work to a lot of people. There's a way to

682
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: do all of it.

683
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: All for the popcorn buckets, Like I'll do the theme popcorn.

684
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Speaker 1: I liked that Dune popcorn bucket love it. It's multip anyways,

685
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, no, I was Actually it was funny.

686
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation outside and we were

687
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about a movie theater that we had in common

688
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: growing up, and my instinct was to ask, what's it

689
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: look like? Because these movie theaters from when we were younger.

690
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: I recently went back. We went to go I think

691
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: I saw Wicked for Good four times, but we went

692
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: to go see it at my like at my like

693
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: local movie theater with my parents, and I was like, oh, no,

694
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: it's so it's in such bad shape because it's like

695
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: it and I do think that is something to think

696
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: about too. It's like people don't want People barely want

697
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: to leave their houses. They're not going to leave their

698
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: houses to go somewhere that's like uncomfortable and quite frankly unsanitary.

699
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: So that's a part of the ecosystem of this too.

700
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's one systems and.

701
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: We can get really clever conversation for a time soon

702
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: and if you guys are up for it, which is like,

703
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: how can we do that? How can we get the

704
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: energy back in supporting local movie theaters. You know, every

705
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: town should get to have one art house cinema.

706
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Speaker 1: Agree. I mean, my god, some of my best memories

707
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: are going by myself down to like Angelica, you know

708
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'll just go three in a row.

709
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: I pay for each one. I don't hop hop, but

710
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. Like I saw Like

711
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: Red Rocket a couple of years ago in the theater

712
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: by myself, and I was like, thank god, we have

713
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: someplace to watch this movie. Yeah.

714
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing I mean, you guys are

715
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 3: this extraordinary space for all of us, but also youth

716
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: culture to kind of find their voice and their art

717
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 3: and what they want to do in their lives. Like

718
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: it's it's massive. And if you're in Chicago, New York,

719
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: La San Francisco, you have an Angelica, you have a metrograph.

720
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Speaker 3: But what if you're in those cities growing up and

721
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: you're not introduced to so much culture that Yes, one

722
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: positive and social media you can find like minded people,

723
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Speaker 3: but also places and spaces that maybe aren't aren't your

724
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Speaker 3: brilliant weird brain, yes, and how do we find the

725
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: brilliant weird brains?

726
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Speaker 1: Yours? Speaking of brilliant weird brains. We'd love to find

727
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: out more about how yours developed. We'll find out more

728
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: by asking this question, the central question of our podcast,

729
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: and we've been floating around it. I think in terms

730
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Speaker 1: of where it might have happened for you. But Laura Dern,

731
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Speaker 1: what was the culture that made you say culture was

732
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Speaker 1: for you?

733
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Speaker 3: It's a long answer, you know what could okay? So,

734
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: in the moment of what the world was telling me,

735
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: my culture was right to be twelve and disco is

736
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 3: on fire, and everybody's got the same posters in their room,

737
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: and so it's telling me what I'm supposed to be.

738
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Speaker 3: I had the luxury of being cast in a movie

739
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: maybe no one here has heard of it called Ladies

740
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: and Gentlemen The Fabulous Stains. And at twelve years old,

741
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: I went to make a punk rock movie and my

742
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: co stars were two members of the Sex Pistols, a

743
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: member of the Clash, fee Way Bill and Vince Weelnick

744
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: from The Tubes. And I went and did this music

745
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: movie where I had my thirteenth birthday on that movie,

746
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: and I was dressed. My hair was like long blonde

747
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: hair down to here it was like shaved. I had

748
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: a mohawk. It was jet black with a white stripe

749
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: and were lived down and I was in it, and

750
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: I suddenly was this like punk kid for this care

751
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god. They have holes

752
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: in their shirts and they're taking safety pins to just

753
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: like keep it together, and like giant motorcycle boots and

754
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: ni'se cairs and there's tears and they're fish nets and

755
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: what's happening? And I started listening to punk music and

756
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: learning also just like female lead singers and bands, which

757
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: was a whole new thing. And I think for me

758
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: the culture became a wait, you can spend your life

759
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: defining culture based on being like exposed to ten years

760
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: ahead of where everybody else's whoa And it kept happening

761
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: Like that was me at thirteen, and I went back

762
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: to eighth grade with that hair embarrassed.

763
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Speaker 1: They were what happened to me?

764
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Speaker 3: And they were like, you know, talking about the new

765
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: Police record, and I was like, oh, oh my god,

766
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: I love that record. And I remember this one girl

767
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: was like we were just saying we hate that record.

768
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, no, I liked the last record,

769
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: but that one sucked. So about you know, just like

770
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: you're trying to keep up with everybody else. And it

771
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: was this defining moment of oh, no, I get to

772
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Speaker 3: have my own culture and it's this other stuff I

773
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 3: was exposed to. Nobody even knows about it, but it's

774
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: my culture, and yeah, I'm gonna have like you know,

775
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: my poster is gonna be Barbara Stanwick and John Savage

776
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: cool from Hair. And people don't know who those people

777
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: on my wall are and that's okay because they're my people.

778
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: And then at seventeen, I was cast in blue velvet

779
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: and I went, oh my god, David Lynch is my culture.

780
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: And it would it would take decades where people decades.

781
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: So I the good news is my culture was defined

782
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: by not needing to be part of the culture that

783
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: was happening right now.

784
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: It chills.

785
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's an amazing answer. Must have been

786
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: very difficult to have the noise and not that it's noise,

787
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: but just to have the weather of the culture run

788
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: up when to you or just you're you're you're kind

789
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: of against that for a while and you have to

790
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: That requires the stability for you and your identity and

791
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: the culture that you loved.

792
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: One I think being an actor starting acting at eleven,

793
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: So I was always put sort of into cultures through

794
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: this group of people, this circus, right that was making

795
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: the movie. Yeah, you're in the culture of Wicked, and

796
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: it's your world and we're not going to catch up

797
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: for a couple of years when you started, right, so

798
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: and now it's ours. We own it, right, and you're like, okay,

799
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: we were that's all we lived in breathe for this

800
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: period of time, and now it is pop culture. It's

801
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: really defined culture. So you have to surrender to that.

802
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: You're always in another world than other people. But I

803
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: love that. The bad news segue is you don't know

804
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: what's happening in pop culture, right, which, as long as

805
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: you're not embarrassed, yeah you're good. But then you have

806
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: kids and you embarrass then.

807
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Job, you have no reason to ever be embarrassed. I'm sure.

808
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are things that we have no idea about,

809
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: don't even but.

810
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: You know, like you're in public spaces trying to like

811
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: be in a moment that excites you, and you know,

812
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: you just you don't know who people are or you

813
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. Usually, I when it comes to film,

814
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: I'm pretty current I'm such a music fan, so I

815
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: kind of know what's going on in music. But I

816
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: have a story for you, which is I went into

817
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: a hotel lobby to meet my friend Sam for a

818
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: tea come on, and he was talking to this lady

819
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: and they were deep in conversation, and I walked up

820
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: and I wanted to make sure like he wasn't finishing

821
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: a meeting or another thing, so it would go sit

822
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Speaker 3: somewhere else. And we're at the Bowery and.

823
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: This uh where it all happy, where it all happened,

824
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: and they.

825
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: Sort of invite me into their conversation, and I'm introduced,

826
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: and I said, oh god, if you guys need to finish, no, no, no, no,

827
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Speaker 3: She says, no worry, I know you guys are meeting.

828
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm just I just arrived. I'm going to check in.

829
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: And I said, oh, oh, you're staying here and he said, yeah,

830
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: we just ran into each other, but we're friends. And

831
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: I said, oh, where'd you come in from? And she

832
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: had her suitcase and she said, oh, Salt Lake. And

833
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: I said, oh cool, and and I said how did

834
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: you guys meet? And she said, oh my god. Sam

835
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: was so nice to me. I wrote a book and

836
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: he just was so supportive. And I said, that's amazing.

837
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: He's such an amazing writer. He's such a champion of

838
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: his friends. He's so great and so I said, that's

839
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: so good, so sweet, and she said, yeah, he was

840
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: really sweet, like your first book. You don't know what

841
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: you're doing. And I said, oh, yeah, I'm you're amazing.

842
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: She was anyway, great to meet. You start to take

843
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: and I said, so, but you don't live in New

844
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: York and she said no, no, no, I live in

845
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: Salt Lake. And I said, oh, what do you do there?

846
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: And she said, oh, I'm this I have housewife.

847
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: In Salt Lake. I'm a multi high friend.

848
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: I said, girl, don't put yourself down. You just told

849
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: me you wrote a book. You're so much more than

850
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: a housewife. And she said, no, no, I'm a real

851
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: housewife in Salt Lake. I said, you just said that,

852
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: but you also said you wrote a book, your housewife,

853
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: you're a novelist, you're a like, you do many things.

854
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 3: And Sam had to go, Laura, she's a real housewife

855
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: of Saltace City.

856
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: It was that woman, Heather Gay, Yes, it was.

857
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: And guess what, I don't know anything.

858
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: About that Okay, I had to call you.

859
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: I was like, this woman, but I guess she's because

860
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: I kept defending, like, don't you know it's great. I mean,

861
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: by the way, if you're just a housewife, being a

862
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: housewife is amazing.

863
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes, she met Laura Dern and she was like, oh,

864
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm read from Salt Lake City. She was actually saying.

865
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: She was she was drinking herself in a way, but

866
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: you were like trying to meet her at her level,

867
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: but it was but it was a who's on first

868
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Speaker 2: thing and like no, no, no, we're not.

869
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, it.

870
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: Literally took her leaving for Sam to describe to me

871
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: yet again what it meant. And then I had to

872
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: call Jaya and say I was with Heather and I

873
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: didn't know anything. And she's like, oh my god, mom,

874
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: that's like the best one.

875
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: She's the real Her title of this podcast her episode

876
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: was the protagonist because she is that. Also, I'm going

877
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: to tell you how gay gay is. Right now, we've

878
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: both dated, Sam, Oh you and I, Yeah, I went

879
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: on a couple of days.

880
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: You think I haven't dated O my god, Now it's rich.

881
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: Really, I couldn't start that in spirit song back up,

882
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: you dated Sam ten years before we did. Yes, Yes,

883
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: that's what. It's a lovely person. Lovely. He's the most wonderful.

884
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: Actually person and such a true champion of people.

885
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I know, it's truly great.

886
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: His wife, who became a novelist.

887
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: I was just I've just hosted today's show a couple

888
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: weeks ago when Karen and Shipka was there. Yeah, that's

889
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: one of his closest that's right there. He's likely because.

890
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: Because I really want to go back to this idea

891
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: of like embarrassment and shame around the culture that you

892
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: knew and that you're like you don't like, there's no embarrassment,

893
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: and not knowing who that person is. It's like the

894
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: girl being like we were just talking about the police

895
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: record and it's the moment we don't like it's like, yes,

896
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: there's always going to be like a misalignment or something,

897
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, unless you are part of the the beautiful

898
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: collective that is like on the same track with something

899
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: like it's I kind of like that. I'm discovering a

900
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: lot of films myself very late.

901
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: Yes, well, by the way, it's the essence of this show.

902
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: It's why I was so excited to be here and

903
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: why Jaya was saying to me, you know, I I

904
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: know these are your people. I know this is your

905
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: world because it isn't defining culture. It's asking what is

906
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: your culture and obviously making fun and having fun and

907
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: being in the bliss of like it keeps being redefined,

908
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: like what's important to us, what's hilarious to us? It's

909
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: so that's so freeing.

910
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will say this, you walking into the

911
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: Bowery and that interaction with Heather Gay, that's the cultural awards.

912
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: That's lost culture is that's cultural awards. That's the tone

913
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: that is exactly that is that the way that we mean?

914
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: That could be the award? Can I be like tallest woman,

915
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: diniest impact.

916
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, impact is your impact would be described my award?

917
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: Check it out.

918
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: That just got in a word. I was like, I'm hungry.

919
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: People are like, what you get an oscar? Do you

920
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: want another oscar? I'm like, I want a last.

921
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: Cut, Laura darned, there's a bespoke category and award.

922
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: Guys, I got the song like that, like to get

923
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: a song, I got a song? Come on? Yeah, that's

924
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: only because he just referenced I don't but that was

925
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: that was like a that was like a moment in

926
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: culture too, which was.

927
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Like, like there was this moment where every single person

928
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: that's in the queer community was like, wait, you know

929
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: what we all have in common. We fucking love Laura

930
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Jarn And that had to be a thing to receive

931
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: for you. But it's also like you as the human

932
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: being experiencing it and not the topic is like a

933
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: different thing. So when they all of a sudden a

934
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: community turns to you and said, hey, like, what did

935
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: that kind of feel?

936
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 3: Like? Okay, that was insane surreal, It was insane, and

937
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: I didn't understand what was happening, So I knew in

938
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: the moment I had to surrender and just start enjoying

939
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: it and dancing, even though I had no clue why

940
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: it was happening. But back to cultural shifts. You know,

941
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: obviously we're only going to affect change if we're the

942
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: first ones. We're only going to affect change if it's

943
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 3: your voices before other people have caught up to feeling

944
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 3: brave enough to say it. So we've all been taught

945
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 3: that culture catching up to storytelling for the LGBTQ community

946
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: had to be a thing when someone would go first,

947
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: so my experience and me calling people going, guess what

948
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing. I'm not supposed to talk about it, but

949
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm doing this thing. I'm doing an episode of TV.

950
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: And they're like, whoa, you know you just start in

951
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: Jurassic Park, Like why are you doing an episode? And

952
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: I said, no, my friend is doing something. I want

953
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 3: to be part of it, and I can't really say

954
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 3: what it is. And I had the honor and privilege, yes,

955
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: of being part of Ellen DeGeneres's coming out episode called

956
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: the Puppy Episode, and it was a massive moment. But

957
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: the moment now reflected on seems like, well, of course obvious, duh.

958
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: A million people must have done it before that, and

959
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: people must have been going crazy and celebrating, and it

960
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: must have been such an emotional moment, bomb threats, losing

961
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: sponsors and you know, advertisers, and like a crazy week

962
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: during the filming.

963
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Because that was what you were doing at the time

964
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: was out of step with what's out of step.

965
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: And then when it happened. Same for Oprah Winfrey, who

966
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 3: plays her therapist on the episode. In a way, the

967
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: assumption is you're going to do this thing, and thank god,

968
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: people will wake up love, their relatives and their neighbors

969
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: see them. Everything will expand, culture will catch up and

970
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: it will be a beautiful celebration. Was like major security

971
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: for a couple of years for any of us involved,

972
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: the world went no, no, no, Yeah, she lost her

973
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: show like it was you know that were wrong, wrong,

974
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: And yet now a moment like that happens. And for

975
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: the people involved in this celebration. I had a couple

976
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 3: of people part of the game Inschoir of Los Angeles

977
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: come up and go like I was a kid who

978
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: didn't even know what was going on. I saw that

979
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: episode and that meant and you go, oh, right, that's

980
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: why you want culture to catch up later. That is culture.

981
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Culture's doing it when nobody's caught up. Yeah, it's I mean,

982
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: it's just such a gift. So that actually was the

983
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: I think the AHA moment of honoring a community being

984
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: part of it. And also, let me just say, being

985
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 3: part of that moment with Ellen, it wasn't that I

986
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: was somebody like supporting an actor or a friend by

987
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: being part of the show makes me emotional. But I

988
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: was holding her hands as they were shaking, you know,

989
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: and she was looking in my eyes saying for the

990
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: first time, okay out loud with people watching, and and

991
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: the privilege, the luxury of feeling it for someone in

992
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: a moment.

993
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: Was so beautiful, literal.

994
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: It was one of the most incredible experiences of my life.

995
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: And so.

996
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: You know, watching someone do that for themselves and for

997
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: their community and for their lives, you know, it was

998
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: like amazing.

999
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: That can't help it be the focal point for when

1000
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: you do watch this, this chorus of men saying your name.

1001
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: It's funny and it's frivolous, that it's beautiful, it's celebratory.

1002
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: You're and people are saying how much they love you.

1003
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: But you're like you immediately are flashing back to the

1004
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: hands and the hands in your hands.

1005
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's wow.

1006
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1007
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Can I ask like, but like among the people involved,

1008
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: like what was it like sitting with that energy for

1009
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: the longest time between like you and Oprah? And now

1010
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: it's like the aftermath of that must have been so disorienting,

1011
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: crazy crazy, that's.

1012
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: And and you know crazy on so many levels, Tracy

1013
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: that I know Oprah crazy.

1014
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: Crazy.

1015
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have bonding experiences and and she did her

1016
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: an anniversary show, her talk show and had us come on,

1017
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: and we talked about it for the first time. I

1018
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: deeply talked about it and hung out that night, and

1019
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: I think we were all together till honestly to like

1020
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: three in the morning, sharing the stories of the gratitude

1021
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: we experienced, of the personal stories shared. But I've just

1022
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 3: been so lucky to be someone that people will share

1023
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: their personal stories, or their family stories, or their struggles

1024
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: with me only by you know, by being adjacent to

1025
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: this brave moment in someone's life.

1026
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Well, they into it correctly that you were a safe

1027
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: space for someone that needed it. And so now that's

1028
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: part of your essence, and that is a beautiful thing

1029
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: to have be part of your essence.

1030
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: It's incredible to even think that anyone would believe that

1031
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 3: of me. So I will hopefully always rise to the

1032
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: occasion to hold space for anybody. But you know, that's yeah,

1033
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: that's the dream anyway, for sure.

1034
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: I love that was the hotel lobby story.

1035
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm just And by the way, my

1036
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: daughter was right, she was like, don't tell that on

1037
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: a talk show. Don't tell Oh God, I am getting

1038
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: you on unless culture. He says, I am calling your publicist.

1039
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: You have a story for you know what.

1040
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: That means, Hia. That means that you are, in the

1041
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: fandom a publicist, and is that how you identify reader

1042
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: Katie publicists, finalists? You are a finalist but yeah, yees

1043
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: yea in this.

1044
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Realm, yeah, publicist with her and in public absolutely absolutely,

1045
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: one hundred thank you for sharing that way.

1046
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: That is so I mean, just like, yeah, I mean,

1047
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like it's not surprising to

1048
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: me at all to like you really do enter rooms

1049
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: and it feels like everyone is just like because you

1050
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: are Hollywood royalty. But basically, there's so much more. It

1051
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: means so much more than that when you carry all

1052
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: these things and you have all these insights and you

1053
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: have all this experience and you're able to speak to

1054
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: it in such a way and share it in such

1055
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: a way.

1056
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: Why weren't you guys there when I went through a breakup?

1057
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Can you imagine during breakup your champions show up in

1058
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 3: the room and she's Hollywood royalty. But especially when you're

1059
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: like sixteen.

1060
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: When you guys met it was on your your death

1061
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: scene in Wild. Sorry y'all spoiled Wild, But you guys

1062
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: had just gone through divorces and that sort of like

1063
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: rocketed you guys to.

1064
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: And immediately literally within two minutes of meeting on set. Wow,

1065
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: shared everything with each other. So you guys, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1066
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: it's incredible. Yeah, she's the best person, biggest. Let's speak

1067
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: clear already planning.

1068
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: Your show way in a real way.

1069
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: Shall we move to? I don't think so, honey, It

1070
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: is God already. I know it's not crazy.

1071
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: I just said, I said, are people nervous when they

1072
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 3: I mean again, thank god that my publicist, my daughter

1073
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: told me, hey, Mom, they're going to ask this question.

1074
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: You got at least and I was like, I don't

1075
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: like to prepare for things.

1076
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: Joy.

1077
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: She's like, Mom, you have to at least know the

1078
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 3: theme or the thing that bothers you and then.

1079
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: But out you'll see soon.

1080
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 3: We've got to just go feeling right. All we ever

1081
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: know is that people who actually write a.

1082
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: Minute, I'll say something, they tend to feel less impactful

1083
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: when they are being read because you can tell the

1084
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Speaker 1: spirit is not moving. The spirit has already moved, and

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01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: so therefore it's on the written page. But when the

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01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: spirit moves in real time.

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's church.

1088
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: You guys there in the dark, feel it.

1089
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: You really have this is church.

1090
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: This is now a religious podcast.

1091
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: It is it is please listen to us for nothing.

1092
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: I beg you to listen to us for nothing. This

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: is I don't think so, honey. This is a sixty

1094
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: second segment where we take turns sort of bellowing. It's

1095
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: a cultural bellow and I have something this is. This

1096
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: is gonna come out of left field, but I think

1097
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: we're all experiencing it and it needs to be spoken out. Okay, okay,

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: uh Matt.

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Speaker 2: With a collectivist perspective, this is I don't think so, honey.

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01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so honey. Doors

1101
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: that are both push and pulls, oh my god, this

1102
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: is a danger to society. You're getting you are getting smacked.

1103
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: God forbid. Someone pushes and pulls at the same time.

1104
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: Then we're just slapping on glass. Your wrists are compromised.

1105
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: There has to be decisions. Also, I'm sorry. If you

1106
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: are walking into a store, the door should go into

1107
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: the store, pulling the door out. I'm just giving an

1108
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: idea about what direction to go. It has to go

1109
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: a direction. That direction has to be clearly labeled. My

1110
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: opinion is, if we're going in, the door should go

1111
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: in People expect something when they are in a space

1112
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: to have something enter that space. When you were on

1113
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: the street, you do not think, hey, you know what

1114
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: could fly out in front of your second a goddamn door.

1115
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: I hate this. We already and I'm sorry to make

1116
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: people nervous on the streets. We already have the fact

1117
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: that in the summer air conditioning unit second could plummet.

1118
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: Oh I don't need to be thinking about birds pooping

1119
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: on us air conditionings plumbing, and you know also doors

1120
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: flying out into the streets. It's push or pull. It

1121
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: is not push n pull. That's not physics. And that's

1122
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: one minute.

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: Public safety announcement. Yes, that's like, let's change up what

1124
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: a PSA stands for.

1125
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: A public safety announces You have just.

1126
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: Saved lives with that.

1127
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we have to we have really should

1128
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: just decide. And I think in always you know what,

1129
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: you know what great leadership is. You know what great

1130
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: direction is making decisions. It is not always about making

1131
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: the right decision. It is about making a decisions. Yeah,

1132
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: and then you deal with those consequences and those the

1133
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: fallout from that decision. But we have to make decisions.

1134
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: Making a door push and pull. Sure, it's a choice,

1135
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: it's not a decision, it's not definitive. It is putting

1136
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: too much in the eyes and the hands and the

1137
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: wrists of the public, and we can't be trusted. We

1138
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: need guidance, we need leadership on this.

1139
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, masterpiece.

1140
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: Doors. Let's revolving doors. I'm actually, I'm actually I don't

1141
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: like revolving doors.

1142
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: I want to take them. I said door, I push

1143
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: it and it doesn't let me. Usually do I say revolving? Yeah,

1144
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: I worry. I'm not gonna be.

1145
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: To say nothing of claustrophobia, one of the most famous phobias.

1146
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: And yet, and yet, can I ask why I'm having

1147
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: my daughter that this is my daughter? Listen? Can you

1148
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: comfortable with your new name? Klaustra Astra? But do you

1149
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: know I don't know why I'm turning to you to

1150
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: answer this question. Why do we have revolving doors?

1151
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: I think it's to regulate the influx and would know,

1152
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: but I'm just making this up or sort of the

1153
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: what's the words with.

1154
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: An e burn?

1155
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, I'm not sure why. I I think you

1156
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: might be in the ballpark something egress is what I mean?

1157
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: Regulation that the words no, no, no. I believe English

1158
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: is third language. Did you know that when you listen

1159
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: to the speech of the Governor's Awards speaking his third language,

1160
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: everybody calm I refuse to calm down. You need to

1161
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: calm down before we go into bones. I don't think so, honey.

1162
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: What was the experience of starring and Bejeweled the music

1163
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: video with Taylor Swift?

1164
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: Amazing?

1165
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1166
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: You wouldn't ask I.

1167
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: Actually it was in. It was. It was in like

1168
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: the the secretaries went through the file cabinets of my

1169
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: mind and found that file and second and I just

1170
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: needed to.

1171
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: Know an egress and it just because that's a very

1172
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: swift word.

1173
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: Egress.

1174
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: She probably has it has to be in a song.

1175
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: It's probably on folklore.

1176
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: She used the word fad.

1177
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: It's so good, so good.

1178
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: It is my favorite record of hers.

1179
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: It's absolutely brilliant. And the thing that I always say

1180
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: about folklore is it's there for you when you need it.

1181
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: It is in every circumstance.

1182
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: YEA, truly, truly?

1183
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: How about that the world worships her and I had

1184
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: to just hate on her. I like there was even

1185
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: a kick, Like there were certain things. I'm sure there

1186
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: weren't used because we were. And she's an amazing director

1187
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 3: by the way, and amazing because she makes decisions, makes decisions.

1188
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: Would to fix that for us indoor outdoor? That's absolutely

1189
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, I know she could say it today and

1190
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: it would change.

1191
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: It would it would be like it would be like

1192
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: when she like spoke up for like for Spotify. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1193
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: against whatever. Yeah, she did the right thing.

1194
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: She did the right thing in when you're supposed to

1195
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: go in.

1196
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: You push in a door. I know that about Taylor,

1197
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I also like you were the star

1198
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: of a lot of b roll during the Eras tour.

1199
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: The influx of people coming in.

1200
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: That was an amazing experience. We actually went to the

1201
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: first showyar in Phoenix. It was incredible and.

1202
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: It just it was wild. First audience. Yeah, you know, wow, Yes,

1203
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: you watched the aerostur begin.

1204
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: Begin, begin, and like breaking it down after and hearing

1205
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: the ins and outs of notes and just like and

1206
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: her genius brain and.

1207
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: Which you can now see in the documentary. Oh my god,

1208
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a really it's it was a

1209
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: good watch.

1210
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1211
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, But for now we're focusing on one minute specifically,

1212
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang's one minute, because this is Bowen Yang's. I

1213
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: don't think, Sonny, now, do you have a topic ready

1214
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: in mind? I do.

1215
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: It's it's it'll, it'll get there. But ever, everybody walk

1216
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: with me on this. Let's all walk with Bowen Okay,

1217
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: this is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so many as

1218
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: time starts now, I don't think so honey, what happened

1219
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: to underwater basket weaving? It's like a punchline of like,

1220
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: uh oh, it's a it's a college class that no

1221
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: one in the right mind would take.

1222
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: Make it a real thing.

1223
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: I know it's a real thing, and use kelp to

1224
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: make a little wicker, a little, a little lattice some.

1225
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: I know it's a real thing, but let's actually popularize

1226
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: it instead of making it a punchline. Like I the

1227
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: first time I heard the words underwater basket weaving, I

1228
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: was like fourteen years old talking to college counselors. But

1229
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: I was like, the wait, do you guys offer that?

1230
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: Because I would gladly take. I regret, being an NYU alum,

1231
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: that they did not offer that, even though we had

1232
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: a great swimming team.

1233
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: I think they were we had a swimming we had

1234
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: the facilities to have an overwater basket leaving course, and

1235
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: it was never offered to us in earnest.

1236
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: I think let's just really bring the whimsy back to

1237
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 2: our campuses across this country.

1238
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: Let's just make it fun. College just sounds so stressful. Now. Look,

1239
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: and they're not even writing papers anymore. Let let let

1240
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: them do it. Let them weave, and that's one.

1241
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: Let them weave.

1242
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes the dichotomy between us just shakes me because I

1243
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: just said doors should push in and Bowen used the

1244
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: word lattice in reference to underwater baskets latus.

1245
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 3: Work with kelp with help, by the way, But first

1246
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: of all, you're so right. It's too stressful. Yeah, so right,

1247
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 3: And I say swim teams across the country should be

1248
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: required to have underwater basket weaving for like their their

1249
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: break time.

1250
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean.

1251
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 3: It's it's too stressful.

1252
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: It's too stressful. It is a meditative experience. Thank you

1253
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: for agreeing with us emphatically on them.

1254
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 3: Man, I'm signing giy up Oh doesn't even know they

1255
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: offer that they.

1256
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: Doist Okay, she's making your decisions, your dean, mom.

1257
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: You called the school and told them that we had.

1258
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 1: To offer, and now I'm the captain of the basket

1259
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,480
Speaker 1: weaving club for Underwater.

1260
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: They were like your mother said, we had to have it.

1261
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: I think we both made Sillian points. And now we

1262
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: turn to our guest. Oh, it's gonna tear this up.

1263
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, you're going to do amazing. Are

1264
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: you ready?

1265
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: I am okay, And you'll say thirty.

1266
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: Seconds were this is Laura Durns. I don't think so, honey,

1267
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: and her time starts now.

1268
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. Shared public spaces are not

1269
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: just for you. Acrosswalk means we're waiting. We're being generous.

1270
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: If our cars are stopped, take your time, but get

1271
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 3: across the street. You've already got your Starbucks. This isn't

1272
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 3: your Abbey Road, Jessica.

1273
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: Move. Move.

1274
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: People who are like, you know, and they go thirty seconds,

1275
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: thank you, and they kind of move quickly. And then

1276
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 3: there are people who are like they drop something, they

1277
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: go sort of back a little, and then this is disgusting.

1278
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 3: I can't stand it. How about, by the way, in

1279
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 3: the airport, happened clipping nails. The nail is like flying

1280
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: into your face. Someone clipping clipping their toenails.

1281
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: David Lynch the air.

1282
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 3: How about inside a movie theater watching Wills of Wall Street.

1283
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: Margot Robbie comes on the screen. The guy goes, she

1284
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 3: looks just like Sarah, my best friend Sarah. Margot Robbie

1285
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: looks like Sarah. You know what, fuck you?

1286
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, We're in a movie theater, and that's one minute.

1287
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to hear about Sarah. Who want to

1288
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: watch mar d This is the beginning of the career. Exactly,

1289
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: you're watching a movie star.

1290
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 2: Public goods are meant to be shared in Yes, exactly,

1291
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: green means dreamings go.

1292
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: One said, welcome to New York. It's been waiting for you.

1293
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: But I'm not waiting for you to cross the street.

1294
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: It's waiting for you to move at our pace.

1295
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: This isn't your happy road.

1296
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: We're not in Kansas anymore. Call back a week.

1297
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1298
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: It was famously once said, we're not in Kansas anymore.

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Speaker 1: So you actually do have to lift those knees you

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Speaker 1: gotta Yeah, it's it's for me. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: when people are allowed on the phone in a space

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Speaker 1: where there's like four other people.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was gonna talk about that and

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Speaker 3: see like a romantic night and it's right next to

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Speaker 3: you and they're mad on the phone being fired. I

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Speaker 3: get it. Yeah, step out to be fire, Step out

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Speaker 3: to be stopped.

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Speaker 1: It's actually coature number one hundred. Step out to be fired,

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Speaker 1: get some fresh air.

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Speaker 3: But guess what if you're gonna have to do that,

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Speaker 3: the door should go out. You want to be fired,

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Speaker 3: have to leave so upset, and then the door keeps

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Speaker 3: like I'm trying to get out to be fired, guys,

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Speaker 3: and I can't get.

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Speaker 2: Out public that's a that's a courtesy for the rest

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 3: And you're crying and you're like, have lost your gig?

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Speaker 1: I want to say also, the fact that we got

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Speaker 1: a little dose of your characteristic anger right there range

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Speaker 1: was the rage came that a treat and a half.

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Speaker 1: Can I just tell you you nailed it? Do people

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Speaker 1: get nervous? To people get nervous? The elbow started going.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you're gonna kill this, and you did.

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Speaker 3: But because it genuinely pisses me.

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Speaker 1: Off, and there you go point and now you're on

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Speaker 1: the other side of it. You found the truth be

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Speaker 1: in your droop.

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Speaker 3: You guys gift me that you.

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Speaker 1: Give us so much and including your time today and

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Speaker 1: this has been the coolest. Getting to know you is awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I remember I showed up on Palm Royal and yes,

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Speaker 1: was in all the makeup and everything, and then you

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Speaker 1: came and you weren't acting that day, you were just

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Speaker 1: there as a producer. And you came and you were

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Speaker 1: I could hear you giving like feedback off camera, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was so cool. You're so multifaceted.

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Speaker 1: You're so good at so many different things that you

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Speaker 1: do that people don't even think about that you're doing

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Speaker 1: because the it's your reputation proceeds and it is dead ass.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Guess what you know what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 3: next time I'm here? What I'm going to bring you

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Speaker 3: a woven basket.

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Speaker 1: That you made underwater?

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Speaker 3: Oh you know it. Yes, it's going to beautiful. I

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Speaker 3: mean Ji, I will have made it in her class.

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Speaker 3: I'll take credit, take credit for of course, that's what

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Speaker 3: mothers do. Good mother, this is good.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you at the Culture Awards with with the

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Speaker 1: woven basket.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, you're gonna have another huge trophy to put

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Speaker 2: in your bedroom.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth. That is the truth, and this one

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Speaker 1: will be too heavy to break.

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Speaker 3: Was your Museum Award glass?

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Speaker 1: I think it was gold.

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Speaker 2: You know what they would give the people the years

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Speaker 2: before us, a tiny silver Oscar statue, and then what

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Speaker 2: they gave to us in our class.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not noting it. I'm just pointing this out.

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Speaker 2: Like a solid gold like ice cream cone, which which

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Speaker 2: is sitting I love beautifully on my bookshelf. But I

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Speaker 2: did look at the chrome Oscar, this chrome silver Oscar

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Speaker 2: that you know Paul mescal Get has, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's cool.

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Speaker 1: But that's cool, but the gold is better, the gold

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Speaker 1: is batter well, the gold is better. That's a real Oscar.

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Speaker 1: We refer to his as a vibe vibes Oscar, and

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Speaker 1: we love your career. We're going to give you this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not an Oscar, but we are the Academy.

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Speaker 3: Did the Oscars change it to the Olympic formula where

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Speaker 3: you get a bronze of silver and a gold.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, though not bad, I don't think it's well because

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Speaker 1: then it's.

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Speaker 3: Like everyone's a winner, but you got the I do you

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Speaker 3: think about that?

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Speaker 1: So we were we were at the Oscars last year

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Speaker 1: and best actress happened at mike.

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Speaker 3: We're going to say, and we won Best Actress, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that, and that's the greatest moment in

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Speaker 3: cultural history. Which, by the way, we're not stopping till

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Speaker 3: the two of you win Best Actress the same performance.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, guys, are going to do this.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do it. We were there and Mikey

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Speaker 1: Madison won and we were all like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: she won, but that means to me lost. Oh no.

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Speaker 1: I was like once you're when you're in the room

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Speaker 1: and you're kind of like filing that happened. You're like,

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Speaker 1: everyone should win. Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 3: No? And what a face should I make? Because I

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: am in grief and joy and never.

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Speaker 1: Had to do faces for all all different variations of it.

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Speaker 3: I've loved seeing people who like go with the the joke. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like yeah, David Lynch did that one year.

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Speaker 1: Iconic things he did.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was so good. Well, thank you so much,

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Speaker 3: a jam, Thanks you guys. Oh my god, I've had

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Speaker 3: the time of my life.

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Speaker 2: We've had a blast and a half. This this this

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Speaker 2: spanned all conversational tones in the best way.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. We end every episode with the

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Speaker 1: song these Tones Best believe it still jewel the one

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Speaker 1: in the room, I can still make the whole shimmer.

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Speaker 1: To see our guest shimmer, see one of her thousands

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Speaker 1: of films out right Now, including Is This Thing On?

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Speaker 1: And watch our kick Taylor Swift in the Jeweled video

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Speaker 1: Outtakes Yeah. Last Cultureats is the production by Will Ferrell's

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Speaker 1: Big Money Players and iHeart Radio podcasts, created and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, Executive produced by Anna Hasby,

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Speaker 1: and produced by Becker Romo, edited mixed by Doug Jane

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Speaker 1: and our music by Henry Komirski.