1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb and the crew in for Dan The Dan 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Tradio. Good morning to you. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: I hope you're having a great summer. For many people 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: like my son Hayes can't be listened to the show 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: because he's got his first day of school high school 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: kicking off. A lot of kids getting dropped off at 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: their universities. We discussed this like last week, like, I 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe I'm maybe my parents were old school, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: but I don't remember anybody taking me to school. Just 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: bye bye. Felt like that old Saturday Night Live skit, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: bye bye bye, bye byebye. But this is the Dan 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: Uh. 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Taylor Swip was on with the Kelsey's On podcast, So 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: there's a. 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: Lot to it. 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Dan, I thought you brought up a bunch of interesting points, 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: but maybe the most interesting was who does this serve? 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: Right? 23 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Like, who does it serve? What's the what is the point? 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Why is she doing this? And what do you think 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: that the answer is? 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 4: I was. 27 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: I watched the almost entirety of the two minute, the 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 5: two hour episode. I towards the end I just kind 29 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 5: of fast forward a little bit. But it was on 30 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 5: for two hours last night, and even at the end 31 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: of that, Doug I wondered, all, right, did Taylor do 32 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 5: this to bring her fans into the football world? Was 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: it to get football fans to appreciate Taylor Swift? 34 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Where? 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: What was the reason behind this? Ultimately, I think it 36 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 5: shook down to as we talked it out. I think 37 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 5: it was probably a safe space for Taylor to say 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 5: what she wanted to say and to reveal her album 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: and to do it in a neat way with the 40 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: person that she loves. So ultimately, maybe it was just 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: to serve themselves. But record numbers watching it and millions 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: of people when it went live yesterday afternoon or I 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 5: think evening in some parts of the country. But I 44 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 5: had wondered of what was the reason for it even 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: after watching the two hours and Alty, I think it 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 5: was just good for Travis and Taylor. 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I think that's what it was. I 48 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: think it was it gives America a look at sort 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: of America's couple, right and Jay sdu It took him 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: probably six to nine months to go to come off 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: of the It's a fake relationship argument. And to anybody 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: who thought it was then you watch you watched yesterday, 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: you can watch now online and be like, not, okay, 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: that works. You know that there that's a real thing. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: I do think that oftentimes we think there's a strategy involved. 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: It's a lot like here's the parallel I'm gonna drive. 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: I have a really good friend who worked with the 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: president in his first term, and his thing was anybody 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: who thinks that when he comes out with some new 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: plan that there's that they've they've workshopped it or whatever, 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: that there's a whole plan in place, Like, that's not 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: how he operates. It's just not Oh, it's this master 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: playing with the economy like now not really just has 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: an idea. Somebody proposes an idea, thinks it's a good idea, 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: it gets committed to, it goes and does it, even 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: if it may contradict an idea he had a couple 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: weeks ago. And I think that's what's at play here 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: with the Kelseys is she probably always wanted to do 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: it right. And everybody's always on, why don't you ever do 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: that podcast? Why don't you ever do a podcast? Like 71 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: we only see you guys taking pictures in a club 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: or a concert or a football game. Like a podcast, 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: it's just a conversation. It's super like you've talked people 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: into being a podcast, Like I don't know, and then 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: you get the dates arrive, Hey, let's do it now 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: for the season, to get out of the way, and 77 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: we'll just talk and we'll you know, talk music, talk 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: some football, let people know who we are and that's it. 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: There is there a benefit to the Kelsey's Yes, is 80 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: there a benefit to her Yes? But I I and 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. And maybe it's because I believe 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: in the good and people first and foremost that I 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: don't think everybody has some master plan on how to 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: manipulate likes and how to manipulate downloads and what it 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: means for your music career. Like she's a billionaire, she's 86 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: the most popular female artist in the country, period stop. 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: He is a multi time super Bowl champion, a Pro 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Famer. Like, they don't need much more, 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: they don't need even attention, but it's just their way 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: of Like people probably don't think she likes her as 91 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: into football. You watch that, you listen to that, and 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: you understand that she's doing what every great partner should do, 93 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: which is she's fallen in love with what her partner does. 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 6: What it comes down to, so that I became like 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: a person who was running through the halls of my house. 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: We drafted Xavier or Worthy and were like, what is who? 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 6: Body snatched you? 98 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: This is? This? 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: Is it? What do you mean? We drafted You're worthy? 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: I forget where it was, but you were the first 101 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: person to tell me that. 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 6: I was screeching. I couldn't believe it. I was freaking out. 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about like either I'm like, wait, does she 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: she right? 105 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: I had to look this up. I'm like, she does 106 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: she get the wrong information here? 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 6: Yeah? 108 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: We traded up? 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I will. 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just top in one thing. This is where 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: you're like a real person. I like when you when 112 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: you superstars are real people. She said it's Xavier, but 113 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: she says Exavier, it's like a personal pet peeve. But 114 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: forever reason it's charming because it makes you seem like 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: a real person that she has there are things about 116 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: her that aren't perfect. 117 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: And that she's learning. 118 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like like so it's a mistake, that's okay, 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: not a big deal, And yes, I thought that was 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 5: I thought it was. I thought it was great as well. 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: And it wasn't a pick that was or a news 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: item that was so obvious. There was a little bit 123 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 5: of of nuance in it, or a little bit of 124 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: inside that you'd have to be a Chiefs fan to 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 5: really get excited about. 126 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: We're talking about cover two, cover four, Cover zero, man covered, 127 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: We're talking, we're learning, I continue to learn. 128 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: Maybe somebody else that even knows what those coverages are. 129 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not ready to be an analyst right now, 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 6: but give me sixteen months. 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's He's been on his iPad and they've 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: been sitting there at home and he's watching and she 133 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: wants to know. I think it's awesome. 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 7: Something something tells me that he has been doing the 135 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 7: same thing like I. I reached Taylor Swift and Kelsey 136 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 7: fatigue way early into this, and I've almost come around. 137 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 7: I was very interested to watch last night. I'm very 138 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 7: I was very impressed or startled surprised by how genuine 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 7: they are. They're like two giddy teenagers. I love Love. 140 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 7: I like watching Love. But I also think that he 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 7: reciprocates that because he's had us fooled this whole time 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 7: into thinking that he loves her music. I thought he 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 7: was just saying it to be a good boyfriend. But 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 7: I think he also likes her music, which goes a 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 7: long way with me because I don't like her music 146 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 7: at all. It does nothing for me. It's not for me. 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 7: It's for teenage girls. But he seems to just as 148 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 7: she has dived into the football. I think he's actually 149 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 7: embracing her music too, which is a surprise to me. 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Stan Patrick Schelle here on Fox Sports Trading, I hear 151 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: ready w apple ahead, and I don't. 152 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: I do think her music is for everyone, not just 153 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: for teenage girls. It's just Jason may not like it. 154 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 5: I will say that I thought Travis. Travis felt like 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: the third wheel at times because I think he's used 156 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 5: to him, him and his brother going back and forth, 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 5: but understanding that this was Taylor's opportunity that he, you know, 158 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: was gonna let her shine and would sprinkle in things. 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: But it wasn't a back and forth. It was a 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: back and forth between really Jason and Taylor. And I 161 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: thought Jason did a really good job. And I know 162 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 5: that there's some editing that's done, but it's not it's 163 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: not sneaky editing at all. You know where the cuts are, 164 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: you know where the places where they've they've stopped and 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: started again. But Jason asked this question to her, which 166 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 5: I thought was great, and I give them credit. Jason 167 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: just asked, how did it work when you were trying 168 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: to get your master's back, Like, can you tell me 169 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: the difference between what you know our publishing rights and 170 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: what aren't? And she laid it out for him, and 171 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: it was like a real music interview, and she explained 172 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 5: of like what she could do and what she couldn't do, 173 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: and why it was important for her to get those 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 5: the master recordings, and why it may not be for 175 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 5: every single artist. And I actually thought that that part 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 5: of it, aside from them promoting and talking about their relationship, 177 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: was actually an informative part of the podcat. 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Look, I think it's fascinating to understand, to 179 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: have people understand a business that they never understood before. Right, 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: I've had that conversation with a buddy of mine about 181 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: masters and about selling him and about holding on to him. 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: And so when I heard that part, I was I 183 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: was intrigued, but I did know a lot of it. Again, 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I just thought I thought it was a win, But 185 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't set out. They didn't set out to win, right, 186 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: They didn't set out to win. They just set out 187 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: to I want to do a podcast, Let's do it. 188 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: That's how it felt. It felt very natural. 189 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 5: There is something that I do think is I don't 190 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: contrive to such a negative connotation. But Travis is on 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: the cover of GQ. I mentioned this earlier, but Jason 192 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: at the start of the podcast, Jason Kelsey said, we 193 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: told you where we were going to be back August 194 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 5: twenty seventh. Instead, we've got a surprise. We're going to 195 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: do this August thirteenth. Obviously, that dropping helps Taylor, maybe 196 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: helps g QU helps Travis. But Travis, within this GQ article, 197 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: talked about how his play over the last couple of 198 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 5: years slipped, and he says that he let his media responsibilities, 199 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: doing an FX show, hosting a game show on Amazon, 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: he let those things get in the way of his play. Now, yesterday, Doug, 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: after your show, I was in with Carrie Rhodes on 202 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: Cavino and Ridge, and Carrie was an All Pro and 203 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: spend eight years in the league. Says, I just think 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: he's lost a step. I don't think he has it 205 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: anymore like he once did. And I think this is 206 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: all cover up and hearing what Carry said, and I 207 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: didn't necessarily disagree with Carrie. In the podcast that aired 208 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: last night with Taylor, Travis talked about traveling the world 209 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: and said that in Taylor brought up the point that 210 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 5: Travis had talked about going to different countries and Taylor's like, yeah, well, hello, 211 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: I am going on a tour. We can go to 212 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 5: all of those countries. And so that's what they did 213 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 5: in the summer of twenty twenty five, or Travis was 214 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: with her in Europe during those spots or going to 215 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 5: different places. That wasn't mentioned in the GQ article of 216 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 5: the focusing on football. And by the way, it would 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: be okay, Travis Kelsey's accomplished enough in his NFL career. 218 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 5: He doesn't need to play another down. He's going into 219 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. But it was interesting to me 220 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 5: to hear him say that his TV stuff took him away, 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: But the relationship stuff with Taylor and being in Europe 222 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: and doing these different things were not a reason on 223 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: why maybe his play slipped. 224 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: Last year, which you disagree with. 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: I just don't know how it helps, you know, Like 226 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: I was when he went to Argentina two years ago, Yes, 227 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: during the bye week, I just thought that's crazy. The 228 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: big joke is the NFL is now like we'll just 229 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 5: go to South America once a year. We'll go there too, 230 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: So maybe it looks a little bit normal, But I 231 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: didn't think that that was the great move for Travis 232 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: and preparing for the Chiefs. They ultimately go on and 233 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl, so it didn't have an effect. 234 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: But again, none of this has an effect, and it's 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: okay if it did. He's at the end of his career. 236 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 5: But it's just it's never brought up as maybe a 237 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: reason on why not the relationship, but just the stuff 238 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: that comes with the relationship. You're in a different phase 239 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: of your life, a different part of your life. But 240 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 5: he's pointed out single about the TV shows, but nothing 241 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: in terms of the travel that he may have done 242 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: with his girlfriend. 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: I would say this that. 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: Inevitably, inevitably, there will be some form of negativity towards it. 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: Right, There always is, And. 246 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: Here's how I would take that negativity, right, because it's 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: it's not good. I don't think it's going to be 248 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: anybody who matters. I think it'll be the bots or 249 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: the fingers on social media that matters. Okay, but remember, 250 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: in order to watch this or listen to this, you 251 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: have to seek it out, right, you have to seek 252 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: it out. So you can say I don't care about them. Okay, 253 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: well then don't listen and don't watch. It's fine. There'll 254 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: be deal like they'll be they'll be fine. So if 255 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 2: you say, hey, I watched I listened to one, I 256 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: think it'd be really hard to come away and think 257 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: it's not a real relationship. It's pretty much impossible. And two, 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: they both seem really likable because Travis does suddenly take 259 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: a back seat, which I think he probably likes. And 260 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: he's always been the center of attention. Now it's kind 261 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: of cool. 262 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: To have a girl that's set of attention, Like that's. 263 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 2: That's dope, Like he can just kind of he can 264 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: just gotta be the arm candy. And then three, like again, 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: the most important thing when somebody says, like, dude, I 266 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: listened to that podcast. Wait so you sought out that podcast, 267 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: downloaded it, listen to it, And then you're like, yeah, 268 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm not into them like, Okay, that's you just you 269 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: want the attention that you think they're trying to get. 270 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: Here's where I don't think it's gonna uh backfire on 271 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 5: him or in any way or it's going to matter. 272 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: Is if he plays well this year, then he's right 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 5: and all the work that he's done with the speed 274 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 5: and agility coach worked this offseason and guess what it 275 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 5: was the TV shows? Travis identified the problem and addressed it. 276 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: And if it doesn't work, and if he has another 277 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: down season, he's just old and his better days are 278 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 5: behind him. I don't think that this is going to 279 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: come up. And again, I don't think it matters. I 280 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: don't think it's a big deal. But it's just funny 281 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: because it sounds a little hypocritical by Travis to say 282 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 5: it was the TV shows and my attention to that 283 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: as opposed to being away for a month and traveling 284 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: throughout Europe. 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 7: I thought it took like balls for him to admit that, 286 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 7: and for him to admit it on GQ. It wasn't 287 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 7: like a sports mag per se or a sports article 288 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 7: or a reporter, but it took balls. And I think 289 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 7: that only a guy who's had his career already could 290 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 7: say I was distracted last season as my team was 291 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 7: trying to win a third straight Super Bowl. Doug, you 292 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 7: talk about the negativity and the bots and everything. I 293 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 7: think a Chief sand would have an actual grievance to 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 7: be like, wait a minute, you're admitting to being distracted 295 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 7: as we were trying to set history last year. What's 296 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 7: going on here? And I think Kerry Roads is probably right. 297 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 7: I think that's his way of not admitting that he's 298 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 7: lost a step. But I think it takes balls and 299 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 7: it's almost refreshing to hear a guy actually admit I 300 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 7: was distracted. How many athletes through the years, including Lebron James, 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 7: have said there's nothing to that. It's always about the basketball. 302 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 7: Everything else is sidebar. Travis Kelcey actually admitting this, I 303 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 7: think kind of puts him out there for criticism, don't 304 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 7: you think, Doug? 305 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: I do. 306 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: Again, I didn't hear the entire podcast. So were the 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: TV shows he's talking about last year or he's talking 308 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: about in previous years because he did the big reality 309 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: show he did was like, yes, ten years ago. More 310 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: than that, I was about a ten years ago. I 311 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: was at CBS at the time and where he dated 312 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: thirty two women in the offseason. I thought that's what 313 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: he was referring to, not to last year. 314 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: No, so he didn't mention any of the TV stuff 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 5: in the podcast with Taylor Yesterday and the New New 316 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: Heights episode. It was in the GQ article where it 317 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: was pointed out the FX Show and the show that 318 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: he did on Amazon that those were the shows, because 319 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: I guess there's multiple episodes with the Amazon show, and 320 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 5: maybe I wasn't familiar with the FX Show, but those 321 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: were specifically pointed out as shows that he did. 322 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: The was it what is it something Kelsey is keeping Kelsey? 323 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: I forget what it's called? On the Amazon show, which 324 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: was pretty good, and this is a different Amazon it was, 325 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: This was a different This was like a game show 326 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: that he hosted that he ended up being the host. 327 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: But the dating show that he did was yeah, that 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: he wasn't alluding to that that was a decade or 329 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: are you. 330 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 7: Smarter than a celebrity? Was the Amazon Prime show? 331 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 332 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 7: And I wanted to say his dating show is he 333 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 7: didn't he date a woman from every state? Wasn't it 334 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 7: the Kelsey fifty or something stupid like that? 335 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Something like that, or was it thirty two? I can't remember. Wait, 336 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: so when was the when was the game show? 337 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: Was Chasing Kels? I think that the game show was 338 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: last the last off season twenty twenty four. 339 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 7: Okay, so last fifty women from fifty state. It's vibe 340 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 7: for the heart of a pro football player. Chasing Kelsey 341 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen. 342 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, nine years ago. I was. I was close. 343 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: I was close in my ears. I remember I interviewed 344 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: him like he was. You know, you talk about you 345 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: talk about a guy who you had. I had no 346 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: idea would reach superstar status nine years ago. Think about 347 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: how his life changed when Pat Mahomes became his quarterback. 348 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 7: We were at the Super Bowl maybe it was Los Angeles, 349 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 7: I forget which super Bowl, and Doug and I are 350 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 7: prepping for the show, and all of a sudden, I hear, hey, Doug, Doug. 351 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 7: Somebody trying to get Doug's attention. Who's being walked by 352 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 7: a publicist the other way? And I look over. It's 353 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 7: Travis Kelsey trying to get Doug Gottlieb's attention as he. 354 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: Were, because we used to He used to come out 355 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: all the time and we talked basketball because he played 356 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: basketball Cincinnati, and we had him like mutual mutual friends, 357 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: and you know, I like again to go from that, 358 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: I have his number, I've never haven't texted him in years. 359 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 2: I've no idea if he has the same number, if 360 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: he'd even know who you know, new phone, who dish. 361 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean medio like ridiculous, ridiculous. Went from hey, yeah, 362 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: I know yeah to these in the names you know 363 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL non quarterbacks, he's top five in any 364 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: conversation correct, yes, and then after this podcast and after 365 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: you know, now obviously a long standing relationship with Taylor 366 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: Swift the most don'n by proxy. So so that's that's 367 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: an unbelievable rise, unbelievableuse. I'm Doug Gottlieb, He's Dan Byer. 368 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: Of course you heard from Jason Stewart as well. This 369 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: is the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. We 370 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: got a bunch to get to in this hour of 371 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: the show, including we'll have the Dodgers of the Dodgers 372 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: hit rock Bottom. It's a great question, and you know, 373 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: if you don't listen to the Doug Gottlieb Show, you 374 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: don't you may not know that you you may not 375 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: know that our own Dan, our own Jason Stewart is 376 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: a die hard, die hard Dodger fan. 377 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 379 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio a app. 380 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: Pauli Fools go here with Tony Foodsco. 381 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 382 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 8: As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning 383 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 8: Polly and Tony Foodsco Show. 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 385 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 8: But instead of us telling you how great we are, 386 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 8: here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on 387 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 8: our show. 388 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. 389 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: What what are you doing? Were interrupting our promo? 390 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 391 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: You wasn't talking about you. 392 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: You took those clips totally of context. 393 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 394 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 8: out and beat you. 395 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: Let me put this into context. Shut up. 396 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Fusco 397 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 8: Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 398 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: Yea, let's talk some baseball, shall we, Dan, You're okay 399 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: with that, Let's do it. 400 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 401 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: The world has gone upside down. One has gone upside down. 402 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: The Dodgers can't beat the Angels, and no one can 403 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: beat the Milwaukee Brewers. John John Morossi joins us Fox 404 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Sports Radio MLB Insider. He's a reporter for the MLB 405 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: Network and he joins us here on the Dan Patrick 406 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. The Brewers are twenty eight 407 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: and four over the last thirty two games, and Misowski's 408 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: missed the last couple starts right because he's been on 409 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: the il How how has this happened? 410 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: John Well? 411 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: First, first of all, good morning, my friends. I would 412 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: say this that as both of you know, well, the 413 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: great state of Wisconsin is at the center of the 414 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 4: sports universe, right, I mean, that's that's. 415 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: It starts, It starts it. It's definitely First Avenue, First Street. 416 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: It's the nexus of the universe, as as Kramer is. 417 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 4: And actually I think that that's what the license plates 418 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: in Wisconsin now say, the next of the universe, the 419 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: center of the sports world. It really is. I tell 420 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 4: you what. The Brewers have something specially going on right now, 421 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: and a couple things stand out to me. The return 422 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: of Brandon Woodruff has been sign different. If you look 423 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: at that stretch that you mentioned, Doug, it coincides with 424 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 4: the arrival of the return from the injured list of 425 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: Brandon Woodruff. Now I realized he's a starting pitcher. He 426 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: pitches once every fifth day, but he does have a 427 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: way I think of stabilizing this entire group and elevating 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 4: the pitching staff, and I think lessening the burden on 429 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: everybody else to where they now just go and pitch 430 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: their game. Look at Quinn Priester, the man just can't 431 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: lose eleven and two. He's just He's winning decisions left 432 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 4: and right. Freddie Parrals has pitches like an ace as well. 433 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: And then and then with the with respect to the 434 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: position players outside of Hoskins and Yelis, they're all in 435 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: their twenties, they're all young, a lot of them are athletic. 436 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: Bryce Teran, I think that is one of the most 437 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: underrated players in the game you've seen. 438 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: Now. 439 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: Isaac Collins is a two sport star from the great 440 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: state of Minnesota. Look what he's doing right now. So 441 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 4: there's a lot of really good stories for this organization. 442 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 4: Excellent GM, excellent manager and Pat Murphy. There's just a 443 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: lot to like about the way they're playing. And it's 444 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: all happening at a time where their rivals to the 445 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 4: south in Chicago are starting to flip slip backwards. And 446 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: that was not the case by the way I was. 447 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: I was at regularly over fourth of July, and I 448 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: was saying to myself, the Cubs gonna win this division. 449 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: I was convinced of it. And the ballpark was rocking, 450 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: and Pete kro ensfrom was looking like an MVP candidate. 451 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: But now he has struggled, Kyle Tucker's has been okay, 452 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: and and the Brewers have just simply dominated in that 453 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: last month, and the Cubs have fallen back into second place. 454 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: And frankly, guys, I just I do not see a 455 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: pass to where the Cubs are going to finish first 456 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: in this division right now? 457 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 5: How about this one? PA has gone from m v 458 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: P to m I A at all. Thank you very much. 459 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. 460 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 5: I want to I want to just ask on a 461 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 5: bigger picture thing with the Brewers, because of the starting pitching, 462 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: could this be a turn back to the way baseball 463 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 5: normally is like, if you're a if you're a team 464 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 5: that is similar to Milwaukee, you just laid out the 465 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 5: deficiencies that we would think they would have in their 466 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: hitting lineup, but on the mound they're good Like is 467 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 5: this could this be a turn back to maybe where 468 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 5: we are relying more on starting pitching than we have 469 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: over the past few years. 470 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, I think that you're right, Dan, and and and 471 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: here's here's an important point. We talked so much about 472 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: the Dodgers and how they won the World Series last 473 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: year and how creative they had to be they were 474 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: using bullpen games they wouldn't have won without what Yamamoto 475 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: gave for them during the course of the postseason, and 476 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: and what when you consider it, even what Flaharty gave 477 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: to them as he came in as a trade deadline acquisition. 478 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: You need to have some guys. It was Evaldi for 479 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: the Rangers. You go back year year by year by 480 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: year by year. There are certainly cases where where teams 481 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: have utilized their bullpen to great effect and won the 482 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 4: World Series. But in almost every single one of those examples, 483 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: and I would actually say, in every one of those examples, 484 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: you've got a starting pitcher who soaks up innings and 485 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 4: makes the rest of the symphony go. It's like trying 486 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: to have a great musical performance at Lascala and Milan 487 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: Italy without a first chair violin. You know, it still 488 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: sounds fine, but it's not. It's not gonna all come 489 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: together in the end, and you need to have someone's 490 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: gonna be the first chair violin at some point. And 491 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: I think the Brewers right now have two of those guys, 492 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 4: and the teams that are having success, by the way, 493 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: the other team in the National League I think is 494 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: going to be dangerous in the playoffs. Look at the Phillies. 495 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 4: They haven't had Aaron Nola for three months and he's 496 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 4: about to come back. And by the Christopher Sanchez, if 497 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: you compare pitch for pitch with Paul Skemes, you could 498 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: argue that Stancha should be the silon winner in the 499 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: National League. So they are really good. And you want 500 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: to know why the Phillies are where they are and 501 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: why the Mets are where they are. The Phillies are 502 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: a better rotation, and the Phillies their position pier group 503 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: is probably a little bit healthier right now. But the 504 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: rotation is a huge reason why. And in the American League, 505 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: why have the Mariners all of a sudden taken off 506 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: because they've got a great rotation. So there is certainly 507 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: room in this game for creativity and finding different ways 508 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: to get twenty seven outs. But at some point it's 509 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: gonna matter who's starting the game for you. And at 510 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: some point you can be clever, but you're gonna eventually 511 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 4: run out of pitching if you're if you're trying to 512 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 4: bullpen your way through an entire months or entire six months. 513 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: And I think what we're seeing right now major League Baseball, Dan, 514 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: to your point, is bearing exactly that truth out. 515 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: I would love John Rossi joining us Fotch Sports Radio 516 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: MLB Insider works for the NIB Network as well. He 517 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: joins us here in Dan pat Show, Fox Sports Radio. 518 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk about the Angels, right a team 519 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: that everybody just, you know, the laughing stock in many 520 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: ways of Major League Baseball because they had Otani and 521 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: trouton did nothing, and here they are close to five hundred, 522 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: they sweep the Dodgers and way better than we expect. 523 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: But let's just be honest, nobody cares, okay care about 524 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: the Dodgers now, John, you know Jason Stewart as big 525 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: and educated a Dodger fan as you're gonna find anywhere, 526 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: and his issue was, why are we holding on it. 527 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: Why aren't we going for it and going and getting 528 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: some big dogs out of the bullpen, go get the 529 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: best of the best of the best to win another 530 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: World Series at the trade deadline? Why did Andrew Freeman 531 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: approach it this way? 532 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, the answer is and Freedman has basically said this. 533 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 4: He believed that the guys they had coming back and 534 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: based on the information they had from a medical standpoint 535 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 4: as of July thirty one, said to them that they 536 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: were going to have an abundance of starting pitching that 537 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 4: would then allow you to have a greater abundance of relievers. 538 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: And I think they believe that Shrinen would be better 539 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: than he has been in terms of his return from 540 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: the injured list. But right now you're you're really in 541 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: a situation where you've got no closer, especially after Stuart 542 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: landed on the injured list. I mean, right now, there's 543 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 4: a very very handy website that I that I often 544 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: consult this time of year, roster resource, with this part 545 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: of fangrass. Right now they have seven relievers, seven relievers 546 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: on the injured list. Relievers Rereterol Grove, Copec Phillips, Scott 547 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: Stewart and Yates seven. That's an entire bullpen worth of 548 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: injured guys. And that's in addition to the injured starters, 549 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: which include Gonsolin, Hurt, Ryan, Tosaki and Stone. That's that 550 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: is an entire pitching staff of injured guys. I mean, 551 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: that's it is. They won the World Series last year 552 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 4: by having to utilize forty different pitchers forty. I was 553 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: on the radio earlier today in Toronto, and I made 554 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: the point that when the Jays won the World Series 555 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety two, they used seventeen seventeen back in 556 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: ninety two, and it was forty last year. It is 557 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 4: it's not sustainable really now. But and I say all 558 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 4: that the answer is in that information that I just 559 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: gave you. That Andrew Friedman said, we believe that we're 560 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: going to be healthy by the time October arrives, and 561 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: that provided that we make the playoffs, and I'm paraphrasing here, 562 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: that we could have as much pitching depth and as 563 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: good as a pitching staff thirteen guys as we have 564 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: ever had. That's what he's said. So his information says 565 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: that they're going to get healthier and be able to 566 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: withstand whatever is to come in the weeks ahead, and 567 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: let's be fair, today is the first day in more 568 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: than one hundred days they don't at least have a 569 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: share of the divisions lead. So it's not as though 570 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: they have been be reft of quality pitching for the 571 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: entire season. They're in second place by a game, so 572 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: we got to be careful about that. But the short 573 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: answer is Andrew Friedman believes these guys are gonna get healthy, 574 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: and he'd better be right or else there's gonna be 575 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: a lot of questioning by the Dodger fans about why 576 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: they didn't do more at the deadline. 577 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: Hunter Green came back for the Reds last night. We 578 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 5: touched a little on the Mets, a little on the Phillies. 579 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: When you look at the NL, the Mets now just 580 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 5: a game up on Cincinnati and that wild card. Does 581 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: Cincinnati have enough or do the Mets have enough to 582 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: hang on? How do you think that final wild card 583 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: sets out as it seems to be? And you could 584 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: correct me if I'm wrong. Four teams for three. 585 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: Spots, Yeah it is. It is four teams for three spots, 586 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: and I think, listen, the Reds have as much of 587 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: a chance as anybody else right now. I mean, I'm 588 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: talking about that last spot between them and the Mets. 589 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: The Mets have just not been the same team since 590 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Lindor got hit in the toe with a pitch at 591 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: Dodger Stadium two months ago. It just totally change their season. 592 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: He has stayed in the lineup. He is a very 593 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: tough player. He wants to play, but he's not the 594 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 4: same guy right now. And you understand why. If you're 595 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: trying to play baseball and play shortstup with a broken toe, 596 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: you wouldn't be doing too good either. And that's that's 597 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: where he's at right now. Meanwhile, the Reds with Green 598 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: coming back, they've got all this momentum in Mojo, They've 599 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: got an excellent manager in Terry Francona. And where did 600 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: Miguel and do r come from? Okay, because he is 601 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: he has the DH now for the Reds. He was lost, 602 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: forgotten about, and all of a sudden he's back on 603 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: the radar, and and he was acquired at the deadline 604 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: from the A's and he all of a sudden looks 605 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: like Ellie de la Cruz when he's when he's batting 606 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: from the right side. It's just it's it's unbelievable. So 607 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: they've gotten now a legit clean up guy to protect 608 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: Ellie de la Cruz. Gavin Lux has been able to 609 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: hit a little higher in the lineup than I thought 610 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: he would be. Noelvie Marte is a solid player who 611 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: can move around the diamond for you. I like this 612 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: team and I think they're the bullpen wise, they've got enough. 613 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: Pegan is a good closer. They've got some solid guys 614 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: in front of him. So Terry Francona always seems to 615 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: know how to get the most out of his roster. 616 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: And let's be clear about this. The Reds are one 617 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: game back of the Mets, and the amount of pressure 618 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: the Mets are facing and dealing with right now is 619 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 4: just not even in the same universe as what the 620 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 4: Reds thing was. The Reds are in a very comfortable situation. 621 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: They're playing very comfortably, no stress, no pressure. If they 622 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: make the playoffs, everybody's gonna love them. If they miss it, 623 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: they're not supposed to make the playoffs anyway. Whereas the 624 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: Mets have the weight of the world and every game 625 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: they lose, people are totaling up their payroll to decide 626 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: if they're going to be a big bust or not. 627 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: So it's just a totally different universe. And I in 628 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: a situation like that, I tend to say advantage Terry 629 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: Francona and his guys. 630 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Miguel Amaya one day off the IL is going back 631 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: on the IL. It didn't look good as he's trying 632 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: to run out of play at first base. Cubs are 633 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: already taking on water and they got a big five 634 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: game series against the Brewers at home next week. 635 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: How much does this set back the Cubs? 636 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: It is, it's a it's a big deal because they 637 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: also they moved on from John Verdi and they made 638 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: some different decisions with their roster because they expected that 639 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: Emaiah would be healthy, and so they now they're calling 640 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: up Owen Casey, which is, in a small parenthetical here 641 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: a positive story for own is going to make his 642 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: major league debut in his hometown of Toronto. So like, 643 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: there's that story. But the big picture here is the 644 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: Cubs are not playing well and they just lost a 645 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: really important player in Miguel Amaya. Again, your heartbreak for 646 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: him because he just came back. As you point out, Doug, 647 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: They're they're not in a good way right now, and 648 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 4: we and Dan talked earlier about about PCA. It's just 649 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: he were realizing the extent to which they were needing 650 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: Peter Armstrong to be great and Kyle Tucker to be great, 651 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: and since both have have regressed a bit, and and 652 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: PCA has regressed a lot, they're just not the same team. 653 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: They're they're they're good team, but not a great team. 654 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: And they're in the same divisions as a ball club 655 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee that is just playing out of their minds 656 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: at the moment. That's like, you feel like they're not 657 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: going to lose again. So the Cubs are in a 658 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 4: real They're in a real spot. And and now the 659 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 4: other piece of this is they've got to find a 660 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: way to at least preserve home field advantage in the 661 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: first round or else they may you know, if they 662 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: are on the road for the wild Card series and 663 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: they end up losing that series, for example, they might 664 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: they might not even get a chance to play a 665 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: game at Wrigley all most seasons. Or how about this, 666 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: what if it's CBS Dodgers in the wild card round 667 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 4: because the Brewers are in first place and the Podres 668 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: are in first place, you might see the situation where 669 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: that that's the matchup Cobs Dodgers. How about that? So 670 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: that would be quite a story, and honestly, it's not 671 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: that far fetch based on where the standings look look 672 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: right now, that. 673 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: Would be amazing to be in Chicago in LA or 674 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 5: to sit back in your TV in the up and 675 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: watch the games. I don't know if you guys have 676 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: talked about this, but I feel, Doug you have this 677 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 5: love for the Upper Peninsula. Morosi is a native. Anytime 678 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 5: we can talk, he is. 679 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: I was born in Marquette, Doug. I moved down when 680 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: I was like two and a half, but we'd always 681 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: go back pretty much every summer when I was growing 682 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: up to visit family, friends. And I'm a proud I 683 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: like to say I'm a proud dual citizen of Michigan. 684 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 4: Born born in the up grew up in the Lower Peninsula, 685 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: but I love Marquette. God's country up there, Northern Michigan 686 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 4: obviously the alma mater of Mariuccianizzo, and just a gorgeous 687 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 4: place there. I was born at Marquette General Hospital with 688 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: a view of Lake Superior. That is is beautiful as 689 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: a spots're ever going to find Prescott Park is amazing. 690 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: I would just say, what percentage of people in the 691 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: United States know that there's an upper peninsula of Michigan. 692 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: Great question, like what do we think like we did 693 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: Man on the Street fifty fifty. 694 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: I'd say probably less than that, Doug. But that's but listen. 695 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: I tell people the time, like I'm in Michigan. Where 696 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: are you Michigan, I'm in the upper pencil? Like what's that? 697 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I'll say that whenever when we see when 698 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: there are different it. 699 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: Is a different place. Now it is a different country. 700 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: Well the up and by the way, it's getting more 701 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: popular remote work. It's almost got like a little Bend 702 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 4: Oregon vibe. 703 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: Whatever. Yeah, I don't know. 704 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: You can't there's no like Wi Fi and you can't 705 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: there's no cell service in outside of you know, the 706 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: two towns Marquette and what of Michigan Tech with towns. 707 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: That one in. 708 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 4: But listen, listen, just among I'll make two points number one. 709 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: When they have like the big American flag at at 710 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 4: like it was like at the All Star Game this year, 711 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: I said, you have not put the proper shape of 712 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 4: the up in there, And I felt a little bit sad. 713 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: I was like, that's my spot, man, you got you 714 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: got to get that thing on the flag. That's number one, 715 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 4: number two off the record, just among us, okay, just 716 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: among friends here. It is the most beautiful place to live, 717 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: I believe, in America, and it will probably only be 718 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: a best kept secret for so long because it is 719 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 4: simply glorious. If you can, as my dad has told 720 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 4: me many times, guys, Johnny, if you if you can 721 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: deal with snow and you've got a job, it's the 722 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: best place to live in the world. And he's exactly 723 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: right about that. 724 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: Feel the same back green Bay, Wisconsin. 725 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: That was, by the way, that was the mall. So 726 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 4: so my parents would have to drive when I when 727 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 4: I was a little kid, when they went to the mall, 728 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: it was like an all day excursion. They would drive 729 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 4: from Marquet to Green Bay and drive back. That was 730 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: that was the mall trip. 731 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: Well, now you got to go to Appleton for the 732 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: for the bigger mall. Thanks so much, John, We appreciate it. 733 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 3: Thanks John. 734 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: I'm gull he's Dan byer in for Dan. The dan 735 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: Nets punishment's coming down for Michigan football. 736 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: How bad is it? You'll find out next. 737 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 738 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 739 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 740 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: listen live. 741 00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: It's the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio. Do do 742 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: so on a daily basis, not today, not tomorrow, tomorrow, 743 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing the Herd, right, I'm don the Herd tomorrow 744 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 2: and then Dann you doing my show tomorrow? 745 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: Are chefs? Okay? Great? 746 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: So normally, hey, this is how we do the show. 747 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: And then we have big news an update, we go 748 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: to Dan Byer. So let's go to Dan Byer because 749 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: there's news on Michigan football. 750 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Pete Thanmeil. Dan Wetzel of ESPN reporting that 751 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 5: the NC Double A has notified the parties at Michigan 752 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 5: that they will release their findings and possible punishments for 753 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 5: the Wolverine football program tomorrow. So they will find out 754 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: and this is tied to the Connor Stallions spying scandal, 755 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 5: but the NC Double A has wrapped everything up and 756 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 5: the punishments, if there are any, will be handed out 757 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: on Friday. 758 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: And then hardball was suspended for three games? 759 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 7: Is that right? 760 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 3: It was a three games? 761 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 5: Yes, And there was also there was also I believe 762 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 5: he received a show cause penalty for the COVID for 763 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 5: the COVID of the violations during the COVID dead period. 764 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 5: There was stuff that was going on there. They also 765 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 5: reportedly failed to cooperate with the investigation on both times. 766 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 5: It's I don't I think everybody's been guessing that's been 767 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 5: interested in it. The people that haven't been interested in 768 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 5: it don't care about it. And then just like all right, 769 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 5: move on. Harbaugh's in the NFL. Michigan won the National Championship. 770 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: But within the world of college football with Michigan, with 771 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 5: Ohio State, with Michigan State and those schools and tomorrow 772 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 5: will be interesting. 773 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 7: They lay out the dynamic just for our listeners who 774 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 7: aren't familiar. Dan Byer is a diehard Ohio State fan, 775 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 7: and then Gottlieb by nature downplays everything. So this story 776 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 7: has been a non story to Doug and it's been 777 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 7: a huge story to Dan. 778 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 2: It's always in the middle, like just my thing on 779 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: football sign stealing. Football sign stealing, right is there's a 780 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: reason they have three guys there doing different signs. You 781 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: have to know somebody's trying to steal your signs. You 782 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: got to now coaching, like, we know you have film 783 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 2: on everything we do, so do we do hand signals? 784 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 3: Do we do calls? You know? Like how do you? 785 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: How do you do it? 786 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 2: So granted, going to those games is taking up a notch. 787 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: I also think there's the there's the at that level 788 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: of coaching, at that level, At my level, I have 789 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 2: to know everything I do. We got to do everything, 790 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: every ounce of the budget, every penny that's paid, I 791 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: gotta handle it. But at that level, I think Jim 792 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: Harbaugh coached the team and he's doing advanced scouting. He 793 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: didn't just go get the information bring it back. 794 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not micro managing you. How to do you? 795 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: And he went and did He went and did a 796 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: bang up job. But I think they all have guys 797 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 2: that do that. They all have guys that do that. 798 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 7: Do you guys think the story is elevated at all? 799 00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: On what time? 800 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 7: Kind of a weird goofy character Connor Stallions is. 801 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. 802 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 5: I think it's downplayed because of the lack of power 803 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 5: by the NCAA that we feel that. 804 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: Right they have, so like, here's the reality to it. Now, 805 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: if they say Hey, you got a scholarship. 806 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: Limitation, It doesn't matter anymore. 807 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: Everybody's got the same roster limits. And if the NCAA 808 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: doesn't like to give somebod a scholarship, your collective can 809 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: just pay for it. Same thing, right, Like, yeah, it's expensive, 810 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: but same thing. So you can't really limit scholarships. The 811 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 2: only thing you can limit is can they play in 812 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 2: the college football Playoff? And oh yeah, by the way, 813 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: most of the things outside of punishments that the NCAA 814 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: has done have been struck down in courts. So that's 815 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: probably what's next. Is if they try and say, hey, 816 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep them out of the college fotball Playoff, 817 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: Michigan's gonna sue, because everybody who seems to sue the 818 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 2: NCAA wins wins. 819 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 5: A documentary was a piece of work. I though real 820 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 5: and I'm not in a good way by the way 821 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 5: people thought it was. 822 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: Oh it was awesome. Gottor Stallion's the best. Wrong. 823 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 2: But we'll find out tomorrow, Doug. We will find out tomorrow. 824 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: You'll hear Dan on the Doug Gottlieb Show tomorrow. You'll 825 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: hear me in the Herd tomorrow. For Chris Prefet for 826 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: a Jason Stewart for Dan Byer. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Please 827 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: you're back Monday. This is the Dan Patrick's Show, Fox 828 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio.