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Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the

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Speaker 1: Thing from My Heart Radio. Brazen, blunt, unapologetic. These are

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Speaker 1: just a few of the words that describe the unexpected

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Speaker 1: comedy of my guest Today. Tim Dillon named one of

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Speaker 1: the top ten Comics you Need to Know by Rolling Stone.

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Speaker 1: This former child actor has released specials on Netflix and

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Speaker 1: Comedy Central, and graced the stages of the Glasgow Comedy

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Speaker 1: Festival and South By Southwest. Dylan is also a fellow

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Speaker 1: podcaster since two thousand sixteen. His blend of truth telling,

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Speaker 1: hot takes, and controversial opinions can be heard every week

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Speaker 1: on the Tim Dillon Show. Like many who make their

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Speaker 1: living on the road, Dylan was mostly sideline from touring

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Speaker 1: throughout the pandemic. We spoke about where and how he

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Speaker 1: spent his time during COVID. I was in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: and then I went out to Palm Springs, which is

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Speaker 1: a desert. Because if I don't have to be near work,

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Speaker 1: I can be in the desert. So I went out

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Speaker 1: to the desert. You have a home there too, No, no,

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Speaker 1: I have on your business card, he says, Palm Springs.

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Speaker 1: But part of are you in Yeah, Beverly Hills, Beverly Perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Beverly The office is of Tim Dillon. Beverly Hills, Palm Springs, Texas,

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Speaker 1: New York and New York. Yeah. I went out there

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Speaker 1: and we were able to podcast and make people laugh

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Speaker 1: on the internet. And thank god because that helped our

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Speaker 1: sanity and obviously we're able to monetize that and make money.

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Speaker 1: But you know, important for comedians is to be funny.

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Speaker 1: That's how we live. We're screwed up people that need

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Speaker 1: an outlet, and thank god we had an outlet. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to your background, right, a glorious background.

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Speaker 1: You and I share a Long Island background, Long Island background,

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Speaker 1: which is don't all the most polished and sophisticated. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know that we're being funny, but maybe that is true.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Maybe it is true. When you're starting out,

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Speaker 1: you're in an age where you're not a kid. Did know?

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Speaker 1: And and and everything is not the Internet and the

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Speaker 1: way things are now. What was your comedy diet when

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Speaker 1: you were growing up? What it was a lot of SNL.

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Speaker 1: So it was a lot of SNL. It was a

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Speaker 1: I loved SNL. I like Mad TV, which was you know,

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Speaker 1: was already Lang and all these other people. I love

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Speaker 1: sketch comedy. I would watch Carlin and Pryor and Hicks

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Speaker 1: people as I was growing up, so vintage people like Prior, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Comedy to me was was kind of this very broad

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Speaker 1: because it was something that was so happening somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: I did some you know, off Broadway, off off Broadway.

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Speaker 1: I toured around the country, came into the city, came

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Speaker 1: same voice I have now at seven, and that's challenging.

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Speaker 1: eventually it led me out of Long Island into New

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Speaker 1: York pursuing stand up comedy a decade later. But it was,

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Speaker 1: went with an older guy who, in Eli's words, was

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Speaker 1: When Seinfeld did this show, he said a line once.

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Speaker 1: It really got to me. He said, when I go

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Speaker 1: I'm an exaggerated version of myself on stage. I think

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Speaker 1: if I was not like Tom Arnold. No, it's not

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Speaker 1: You're going to restage the play, but in your version

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Speaker 1: very comfortable. I mean, as you said, what's my address?

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Speaker 1: very interesting thing about recreating you know, those environments that

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Speaker 1: How would you describe your style? How would you I

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Speaker 1: back to that hellish canyon on fire because it's the

424
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Speaker 1: choice I've made. And everyone I know who's bicoastal is

425
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Speaker 1: a little insane. Everyone in my business who tries to

426
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: do both coasts is crazy. And I developed an affinity

427
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Speaker 1: for Palm Springs during the quarantine to a lot of

428
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Speaker 1: history out there. Palm Springs got to be you know,

429
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Speaker 1: the stings. It was you had to be when the

430
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Speaker 1: old contracts came out. You could never be two hundred

431
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: more than two hundred miles away from Paramount Studios, so

432
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Speaker 1: Palm Springs is a hundred ninety nine miles away. It's

433
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Speaker 1: it's very interesting, yeah, and that's why this just this

434
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Speaker 1: desert town became this really kind of beautiful, interesting, perfect

435
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Speaker 1: you know Lee, you know, restored, you know, mid century

436
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Speaker 1: modern estates in these really some old cars and a

437
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: really kind of old Hollywood glam about it. It was

438
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Speaker 1: very interesting and it transported you back to the nineteen

439
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: fifties when people, I think we're somewhat optimistic about America.

440
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: Not everyone, but there there was certainly a feeling of optimism,

441
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Speaker 1: right it was post war, and you see that reflected

442
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: in the architecture and just the urban planning in the city.

443
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: You feel it, and you go, this is what it

444
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: feels like to build a city when things are going

445
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Speaker 1: really well, and when people believe that, you know, you know,

446
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,719
Speaker 1: the cultural trends and everything are trending in the right direction.

447
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: So I I do like it out there, and I

448
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: do think that I was too quick to dismiss it.

449
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, it will never be New York. It's not

450
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Speaker 1: ever gonna be news and it's apples and oranges. But

451
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: I've learned to like oranges. You know, someone said to

452
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Speaker 1: me once, they said, l A is just the chicist

453
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Speaker 1: suburb in the world. It's not really a city they're

454
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Speaker 1: running that doesn't have a They're a real reliable they're

455
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Speaker 1: absolutely public transportation system is out there. Very few people

456
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: know who their congressman is. Very people know who their

457
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Speaker 1: state assemblyment. If you do, know who their school board,

458
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: it's a very school board center political fabric out. Yes,

459
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Speaker 1: I'll think about a school If you put a gun

460
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Speaker 1: to my head, I couldn't tell you my congressman. I

461
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Speaker 1: know every major d of every restaurant. I know who's

462
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Speaker 1: working Craigs. I know who's working. You know all the

463
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: places I want to go, But you know who's it.

464
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Craig. We're gonna go to Craigs.

465
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Speaker 1: I love Craigs. That's where I saw Sydney party when

466
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Speaker 1: he died. Really I wrote a little quick memento and

467
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Speaker 1: I saw the online and I said, how I was

468
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Speaker 1: in Craig's. Yeah, I met him there. It's I like it.

469
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: I get into it. I think if you allow yourself

470
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Speaker 1: to get into it, and there's nothing wrong with you,

471
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: are in the business aren't you. I mean the business

472
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Speaker 1: and I get into it, and you know, it's like, listen,

473
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Speaker 1: it has its problems, sure, but at the end of

474
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Speaker 1: the day, it's like what place doesn't. And you know,

475
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Speaker 1: I tried a little bit of Austin, Texas during the quarantine.

476
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Speaker 1: A hellish place. Why. Um, I got a lot of

477
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Speaker 1: progressive friends, gay friends, people. They love that it's the

478
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Speaker 1: Republic of Austin. But I'm I'm a little spoiled by

479
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Speaker 1: l A and New York. So I need a tomato,

480
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can't not have like

481
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: there are certain things I like. I can't have two

482
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Speaker 1: sushi restaurants that are booked out for a year, you

483
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I need Yeah, I need choices

484
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: of places to eat and things to do and things

485
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: to see. It's you know, and then there's a lot

486
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Speaker 1: of people that listen, there's a lot of people that

487
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Speaker 1: live in Austin that didn't make it in New York

488
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Speaker 1: or l A. Let's just be very honest. It is

489
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Speaker 1: what it is. There's a little bit of a you know,

490
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a weirdness about that city that

491
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Speaker 1: I think comes from the fact that it is a

492
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Speaker 1: city that seems to cater to the unambitious for up

493
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Speaker 1: until recently when all the tech people are coming in

494
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: there and they'll ruin it. But for right now, forever

495
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: it's been people whose art wasn't commercially viable, so they

496
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Speaker 1: went to you know, get high and eat brisket. They

497
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Speaker 1: should have that, but not for mix um. Let me

498
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Speaker 1: ask you in the time we have you've done Rogan shows.

499
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Speaker 1: Are people mad at him? I don't know, I haven't

500
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Speaker 1: read the paper. What did you think about without commenting

501
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: on him? And I'm assuming he's a power, he's a

502
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: big pal's a pal, and but what did you think

503
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: about this whole Spotify thing? Well, again, I think a

504
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: mature country has to allow people to have conversations that

505
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: are uncomfortable and difficult. And I do think that I

506
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: love Joe. I know Joe. I'm an overweight guy who

507
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: smoked and you know, drank and use drugs in his life.

508
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: I was vaccinated the day it came out, because I said,

509
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Speaker 1: I talked to a doctor and I went, yeah, I

510
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: mean it seems to make a lot of sense for me.

511
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna gamble this your sober Sober

512
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Speaker 1: twelve years. I got thirty seven years this month, congrats,

513
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Speaker 1: And I don't really go public too much about that,

514
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: but these days I don't know. Boy, what was your

515
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: drug of choice? Oh? I like booze. I liked coke too,

516
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: but but but booze was the down Don't you downplay

517
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Speaker 1: the coke thing to me? You know, coke was good,

518
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 1: but then you know, booze was so acceptable from an

519
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Speaker 1: Irish family that I was able to use this part

520
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Speaker 1: of cuisine. Yes, booze is part of pair with Pair,

521
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: the wines, the Chateau Brillon. Yeah, So what what I

522
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: think about that whole thing is that listen. I think

523
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: people should be able to have conversation. Joe's having conversations

524
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: of people that have vastly different ideas about the way

525
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: to handle coronavirus. I think that at the end of

526
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: the day, when you have a controversial topic, I don't

527
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Speaker 1: believe the best way to handle it is to shut

528
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: down speech. I think you should talk more about it

529
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: from more angles and get more views, more opinions, and

530
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: that way you flesh everything out, You get it all

531
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: out in the open, and then consensus is will emerge

532
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: and people will start seeing the avenues and what's right

533
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: and what's wrong. But to me, by shutting people down,

534
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily help, and it makes people somewhat paranoid,

535
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: and they go, well, why are you not letting me

536
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: listen to that person? And why are you preventing me

537
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: from hearing this? I think a mature country has to

538
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: be able to engage in those conversations, you know, from

539
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: all sides. Comedian Tim Dillon, If you're enjoying this conversation,

540
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: tell a friend and be sure to follow. Here's the

541
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Speaker 1: thing on the I heart rate, EO app, Apple Podcasts

542
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. When we come back,

543
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Tim Dillon shares with us why the many facets of

544
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: his personality don't always make it into his act. By'm

545
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and you're listening to hear is the thing?

546
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: When Tim Dillon was he made several transformative decisions after

547
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: being cold for jury duty. It would ultimately change the

548
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: course of his life. I was a jouring to murder trial.

549
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: It was the whole distance. Yeah, it was two weeks

550
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: in Long Island. Murder and torture absolutely great for me,

551
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: a huge learning experience. It was kind of I couldn't

552
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: afford going on like the murdering, Well, when I want

553
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: to give you a chance to represent, the murder and

554
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: torture case wasn't great for you. The experience was great

555
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: for the experience of being on the jury was great

556
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Speaker 1: for you. Absolutely. I'm trying to help someone get there.

557
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: We go. I stepped in anyway someone was going to

558
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: have to sit in that box, and I did. And

559
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: it made me really look at my life at five

560
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: and go, you know, I haven't gone after what I

561
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: wanted to go after, which is being a comedian of

562
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: making people laugh. And you know, the jury, I would

563
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: make them laugh every day during lunch and they would go,

564
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: we hear the most horrible things every day, but you're

565
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: really funny. And you know, have you ever thought of,

566
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, doing comedy? I go, yeah, you know, I

567
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: think about it. I've never done it. So after that trial,

568
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I really started, you know, living the way I wanted

569
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to live. So you were still using and drink. I

570
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: was still drinking during the trial. I forget what the

571
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: trial was really about. Yeah I didn't. Yeah, I didn't

572
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: pay too much attention. He'd seemed guilty. I didn't really,

573
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't like the look of him, the

574
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: way he kind of just scowled. But no, I was

575
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: seemed guilty. He seemed guilty. He seemed odd and and

576
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I would even be in the room

577
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: if he's not guilty. But so, I mean, life was

578
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Speaker 1: fifty and he um. He was very guilty. He was

579
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: actually incredibly guilty. The only thing that was who did

580
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: he kill the mother of his children? And he was

581
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: he was stalked or he was a bad guy, and

582
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I didn't feel bad putting away. I would have hated

583
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: to do a jury, and I wouldn't have done it

584
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: if it was like a drug dealer or somebody who

585
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: like makes a mistake and does something that they shouldn't have.

586
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: This was a guy who was a hardened criminal who

587
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: stalk and killed a woman. He go away, no problem there.

588
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: But you know, through that experience, I learned that I

589
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: had a talent for humor and I should sober room.

590
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I was the guy. I mean, it was so fun

591
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: for people to be a part of this, and people

592
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: still message me and go great week of my life,

593
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Great week of my life. So to me, it's a

594
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: test of your commuic ability to kind of go in

595
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: there where everybody. Every day it's murder, torture, murder, torture, lacerations,

596
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: and for me to go in there and just kind

597
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: of again a breath of fresh air. You know, as

598
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: soon as I heard that it was going to be

599
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: a big, high profile trial, I didn't want to get out.

600
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I said, let me stay in because I knew that

601
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: it was gonna the impactful, so I am curious. I

602
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: answered questions that would get me in, like when the

603
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: prosecutor said, so, we've looked up your name, because when

604
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: they get seriously run your name, which goes you've had

605
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: your license suspended, you must hate the cops. And I said, well,

606
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: you know I didn't pay my tickets. I hate myself

607
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: for being irresponsible. And I just sit back and then

608
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, the d A would look and go okay,

609
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: and then the defense attorney would come up and should go,

610
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: murder and torture. How can you be impartial when you

611
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: hear these things? And I go, they're just words. I've

612
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: seen no proof. So I finally got it after it

613
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: was my best audition, and I got it, and and

614
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: it changed my life. You know, I left that going, wow,

615
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: life is short. You gotta do what you want now

616
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: you are sexuality wise, you could identify as gay, Yes,

617
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: but what do people say to you. I don't seem like, yeah, no, no, no,

618
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Speaker 1: you said that that. I just canceled yourself. I said it,

619
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Speaker 1: you did, you just said that. But but my point

620
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Speaker 1: is that do people in the gay community say you're

621
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Speaker 1: not gay enough? Outside of the gay community, they do.

622
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: In the gay community. There's all different types of gay

623
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: people on television. There's one time I think that you

624
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: know that, but I'm saying that there's a lot of

625
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I think you know, there's casting, so they cast, somebody

626
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: is gay, they cast, and it's usually you know, very

627
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: a young, good looking somebody in the design and very

628
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: stylish or whatever. But that's not It's a big community.

629
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: And I'm out of and I have you know, my

630
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: comedy is about who I am and honesty and all

631
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: that ship. So I don't care about anything. But I

632
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: think the gay community is a lot broader than people think.

633
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: And you don't play it up in your comedy. I

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Speaker 1: don't play it up. But I mean friends who I

635
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Speaker 1: won't comment on, sure are very funny, but they clearly

636
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: want they want it clear I'm gonna do a set

637
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: of gay. Yes, I have jokes a few jokes about it,

638
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: but not a ton. It's well known if you're a

639
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: fan of mine. But yeah, I've never felt it to

640
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: be the funniest thing. Whereas yeah, I've never felt it

641
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: to be the funniest part of me. When it works

642
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: and works in and it doesn't you leave it out. Yeah,

643
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Speaker 1: I just never felt like some people it is why

644
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: they are interesting, and that's not me. Some people it

645
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: is why they are different or where their perspective is

646
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: completely from There's nothing wrong with that in the slightest.

647
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: But with me, I think I have a lot of

648
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: different things going on, and uh, you know, it's it's

649
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: a part of my identity. There's only one tell Yeah,

650
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: there's only one clue mention ex Benedict, No, no, exactly

651
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: that discussing that was there was a close second when

652
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: you said Palm Springs my friends, yes, who are gay,

653
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: have gay people like the desert. We don't like the woods.

654
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Lesbians like woods, So a lot of lesbian friends. Bomb

655
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Springs is the street, Yes, a lot of gay people

656
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Speaker 1: in and and old people, people who are in their

657
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: nineties and hundreds. Now I want to finish with this, Yes,

658
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Speaker 1: first of all, we didn't get to Long Island. But

659
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: that's okay, you know, well we we've both done enough

660
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: for Long Island. But I no, no, I drove my

661
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: wife out there. We did in East Hampton, but we

662
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: we we we we go out there and take my

663
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: wife to Massive pequal go to we go to MASSI

664
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: people a lot, but I took her out here this

665
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: past summer. And we drive through and we do my

666
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: drive down want to a parkway. We go to Jones

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Speaker 1: Beach and here's gil Go and there's the water tower,

668
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: and here's where I was a lifeguard, and there's Fire Island,

669
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: and we go through Massive Piqua. Let me get to

670
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: my neighborhood I grew up in. And we go down

671
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: into the bowels into the south where the canals are

672
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: in the street sour shows and we go buy a house.

673
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Now you would have thought this place it was a business.

674
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: They had so many Trump and Q and on flags fluttering.

675
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: It was a windy day and literally like you couldn't

676
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: get that out of designer Steven Spielberg couldn't be filmed

677
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: it better. All these things are flapping and pulsingting and

678
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: went Trump Q and on from my cold dead hands.

679
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: They must have had a hundred of them on the lawn.

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: And my wife said to me, she goes, this is

681
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: where you're from. I said, you know, we really didn't

682
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: have this when I was a kid. Yeah, it's wild.

683
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: It's I think it's always been a conservative place, but

684
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: it's now loudly political where it's like everybody, it's loudly political.

685
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: And I find that the politics and geography is the

686
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: most depressing thing to me, because I want to like

687
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: or hate a place on its merits. If you're a surfer,

688
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: and if you love Trump and you're a surfer, you

689
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: can't live in Texas. There's certain parts of the country

690
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: that makes sense for certain lifestyles, and now that everything

691
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: has become so crazy, Like I have friends in Florida

692
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: now that are like, well, we're here because it's free

693
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: and we love Trump. It's like, know, you're there because

694
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: you were tired at thirty two, Like you know what

695
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean, You're there because you just want to drink

696
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: all day and God bless you. There's nothing wrong with that.

697
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Don't tie it into politics. You just want to get

698
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: drunk on your boat. But I believe that people like

699
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I'll look at people, and I'll say, not if you've

700
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: got to know me really like, Okay, there's no way

701
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: you can get to know me through social media or

702
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: through the business. If you got to know me, not, Oh,

703
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: if you knew me, you'd like me. But we'd at

704
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: least stand a chance. The way things are, there is

705
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: no chance. And I'm in Montana shooting a movie and

706
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: the weekend comes and I don't have my chargers with me.

707
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking around my hotel. I'm like, you know, I

708
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: usually have a bag full of my charges. I gotta

709
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: go to the best buy. I call up uber. The

710
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: guy comes and picks for the hotel in a huge

711
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: pickup truck with a back cab in a second row,

712
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and I get inside that I sit there and I said,

713
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I said, where is this place? He said,

714
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: It's on the other side of town. And I go,

715
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: real tough cowboy guy, probably sixty, and he goes, it's

716
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: on the other side of town. He goes, well, this

717
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: time of day, on a weekend, it shouldn't be too bad,

718
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: he said, the traffic. He said, it's being Sunday, Sunday

719
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: morning because the place opened a ten And I go great,

720
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't know this town. I'm here visiting.

721
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: And he literally goes. He goes to, you're a visit

722
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: of town because you're not here for that, Alex baldwoindn't

723
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: failm are you? And I so help me. God, I

724
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: got my sunglasses on and my mask and I go, no, no,

725
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: what's that? He goes, well, they're shooting some film here

726
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: with that Alex Baldwin. As a pause, he goes, I

727
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: can't stand him. He's a liar and a and a

728
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: wife beater. He names all this all the ship that

729
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: they've accused me of, which is true, and he and

730
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: he goes, I can't stand him. I go really, I go, wow,

731
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, I know who he is.

732
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I know his films, but I didn't know he was.

733
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: Is he he's all those things? He said, yeah. I

734
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: just can't stay in him. Then there's a pause, very pregnant.

735
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: He puts the music on, some country music, and we

736
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: get to the best Buy and we pull up and

737
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: his name is like Doug or something, it's on his

738
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: his license. And I take up my lessons and I go, Doug,

739
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: I am Alex Baldwin. And I hold up my license

740
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: and give it to him through the screen and he

741
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: takes my license, looks at it, and he looks at

742
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: me in the rear roomrror and he goes, Jesus Christ,

743
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: you are Alex. And I said, Doug, you can't believe

744
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: everything you read about people. I'm just asking you to

745
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: consider that. A lot of what you read it's just

746
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: fucking nonsense, and it's it's click bait for people who

747
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: want to sell things. I said, it really isn't true.

748
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: He said, well, you may be right. I'll read a

749
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: lot of stuff and I don't know what's true. I

750
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: don't know what's true. I go, well, you just tell

751
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: people that you drove me in the cabin, that we

752
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: had a nice conversation, what have you. There's is no

753
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: hope of how do you permeate that and talk to

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00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: understand you. Let me finish with this that I want

755
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: you to really consider acting. Well, that's very kind. Want

756
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you to consider acting. I'll tell you why. I would

757
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: like to studios to consider me. Well, but i'd like

758
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: you to I'll tell you. I'll tell you why. Because

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00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: one thing people can't fake, which is very important in

760
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: some roles. You play one thing people have or don't

761
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: have it. You can't fake is authority. And if you

762
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: have that authority, you can go do twelve Angry Men.

763
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: You could you you could do the Skies the limit

764
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: and you have the intellectual velocity, you have the verbal

765
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: facility that you have with words, and the authority. You

766
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: could play the Lee J. Cob role in on the Waterfront.

767
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: You should really think about that. I'm gonna think about

768
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: you can't buy that. I Am going to think about it.

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: I do hope that, you know, more things come down

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00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: the pike, you know, I mean that is it's an

771
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Asian for the movies. We have all the same people.

772
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: You should go make movies. You really should act all right. Well, hey,

773
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: it's self lobby if you don't, because you really because

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00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: you've got a great quality. Well, I appreciate it, and

775
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: thank you very much. My thanks to comedian Tim Dillon.

776
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: He'll be back on the road making people laugh this spring.

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00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Check out his upcoming tour dates at Tim Dillon Comedy

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Speaker 1: dot com. This episode was recorded at c DM Studios

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Speaker 1: in New York City. We're produced by Kathleen Russo, Zach McNeese,

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: and Maureen Hoban. Our engineer is Frank Imperial, I'm at

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Speaker 1: like Baldwin. Here's the thing. Is brought to you by

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