1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the radio. I want to 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: talk about you because you as the intro, You've done 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Yes, your your resume is extensive. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Oh seriously, no no, no, no bull jive, no real talk. 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you really know or maybe 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: people haven't told you. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Maybe you just and we're all wired like this. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: We kind of hear more here of the negativity than 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the positive because being in the next professional athlete, the 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: losses haunt me more than the wins. I remember I 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: lost way more than I didn't. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: That suck. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: It's like so irritating that our brains are wired that way. 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: It's like, this is not helpful. 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the parades don't bring me the joy that the 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: hurt and the losses I feel. 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 5: You. 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: So your first job, in one of the first jobs 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: you had, were you a radio host? Did you? How 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: did you get to radio? 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: I was a spoken word poet, so I did like 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: deaf poetry jam when I was in college, and I 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: would do slams and you know all of that, And 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: I ended up performing at a Jesse Jackson Rainbow Push 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 4: benefit and I just remember it being like pouring rain 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: and I still was like no, I'm gonna rainbow push 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: to get there. And there was a brother there, Ken Spelman, 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: who gave me his card and was like, you know, 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 4: we should talk about you doing radio, but like listen, brothers, 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: give you a card, give you. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: The card you. 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: You'd be like I Hi. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: So I went back to purchase and the car was 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: sitting on my desk and I hadn't called him. It 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: was like a week and my homegirl was sitting at 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: my desk because she was like using my computer and 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: she was looking at the car. She was like, oh wow, 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: this office is at Rockefeller Center and I was like 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: offices at Rockebell Center. 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: She was like the car that you have in your 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: desk from. Who's this car from? 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, that's that's the guy I 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: met at the at the benefit. 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: She was like, I think this is legit. I was 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: like huh. And I looked at it. 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, I didn't even realize this. 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: I thought it was like homeboy LLC. So I called 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: him and he was like, I'd love for you to 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: come to the radio, and like, you know, I want 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: to interview you as a poet. 52 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: Et cetera. 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: I didn't realize that when I went to the radio 54 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: and he was interviewing me about poetry, he was actually 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: interviewing me for the job. So I ended up getting 56 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: a job as a radio host at Sirius, and I 57 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: was hosting like these two stations that were kind of 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 4: like just esoteric and all over the place and eclectic. 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: And then I graduated. So that was in March of 60 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Ooh, no, baby, that was in March of 61 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: two thousand and three. 62 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: Three, because I started it serious at two thousand and four. 63 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: I did radio for Serious, Okay, So I started there 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: in two thousand and three and then nine months late. 65 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: So I've graduated. 66 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: Now I'm sitting in actually no, These two guys that 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: were on the hip hop station, they were standing in 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: their boss's office, but the office had two sections, and 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: they were in the front section. I had just peeked 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: my head in to say hi, and they're like, oh, 71 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: what's up? And they had like the Outcast album in 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: front of them. Speaker box lub below was in front 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: of them, and I was like, oh, man. 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: I love that album. 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: They were like, yeah, we're supposed to interview them later today. 76 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: You know, we're really excited, but we really don't know 77 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: a lot about outcasts. So I start going in because 78 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: I'm an outcast fan. So I start going in and 79 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 4: while we're talking their boss who's on the other side 80 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: of the court, the cubicle gets a call that they 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: have to move the interview to the next day. So 82 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: he's like, hey, guys, they got to move the interview tomorrow. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: And they're like, oh shit, we can't do it. We 84 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: won't even be in town. And he's like, well, and 85 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: he like knew of me because I was on this. 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: I was that serious. 87 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: He was like, hey, you sound like you know a 88 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: lot about outcasts. Do you want to do the interview? 89 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, so that was my first interview, My very 90 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: first interview was with outcast. 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Wow, and. 92 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, like I love he's an And then and so 93 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: then I was at serious for a few years and uh, yeah, 94 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 4: I don't want to tell another negative story. 95 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: So then I wasn't that serious. 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: What happened? 97 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: How you? How you? 98 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean you you a magician because you will magically 99 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: appear on the job and then you just disappear. 100 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: What other version of that is there? 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm just. 102 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: You said the only job I got fired from. This 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: is the only job of how you get how you 104 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: get fired. 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: So my boss was. 106 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: This brother who's who I will not even honor by 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: naming him. He had a little less chain and a 108 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: high booty okay, and he had a poster of Condoleeza 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: Rice and uh. He would send us memos with intros 110 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: from different generals, like there would be like a memo 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: with like a paragraph from General McCarthy and Norman schwartzkough 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: like this is hip hop, nigga? What why am I being? 113 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: Why am I having to deal with this? And he 114 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: came into my studio. Well, the first time we ever met. 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 4: I went to dap him and he said, keep it corporate. 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: Whoo. 117 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: So that was our very first interaction. I went to 118 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: and he said keep it corporate. I said, okay, remember 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm twenty one. 120 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 121 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 4: Then a week later he came into my studio and 122 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: he said, so, you know, I just wanted you to 123 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: know that. 124 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: I know that you're spoiled and I'm going to expose you. Huh. 125 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: And I'm twenty one and I'm in New York right, So. 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: My instinct, my instinctual response to that is I have 127 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: to prove him wrong. And my way to prove him 128 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: wrong is I have to pull him in, you know, 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: I have to show him no. 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm Amanda, Like I'm not spoiled. I've worked really 131 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: hard for all of this shit, Like get out of here. 132 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: So I spent the next two years really doing my 133 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: best to to to make sure they swing my way, 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: so to speak, not in a romantic way, but in 135 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: a professional way. So I'm showing up early, I'm staying late. 136 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing all the interviews. Everybody knew me 137 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: as serious because I am a true, full fledged hip 138 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: hope you know what I'm saying. So they knew that 139 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: when they brought their artists there, like it's going to 140 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: be a real interview. It's not just gonna be some 141 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: can that they just get everywhere else. So I got 142 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 4: really cool with the radio exacts, et cetera. 143 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: So you know. And then at one point. 144 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: In time, so once I went on tour with Flow 145 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 4: a Tree, he flipped. He flipped because he wanted to 146 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: be a star. And I was like, in his mind, 147 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: I guess getting started him. So once I went to 148 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: Flow with Toro Flow a Tree, I was like, oh, 149 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: I could be I could recur on tour, and he 150 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: just was not let it happen. Once I came back 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: from the Flooridry tour, it was never cool again, never 152 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: cool again. And he started doing weird stuff like lying 153 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: about people coming to the show, you know, to the station. 154 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: And so I remember at the time I was seeing 155 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: Loope and Loupe hit me and was like, uh, why 156 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: am I coming to the radio station. I'm not going 157 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: to interview with you, and you know, he don't know that. 158 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: So now I'm like, why is Loupe Fiasco coming to 159 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: the radio station but he's not interviewing with me. He's like, well, 160 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: how did you even know he was coming? You don't 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: need to know how I know that. The question is 162 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: why are you keeping out? 163 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: Like why are you keeping me out? He said, you 165 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: needed to give other people a chance bind you. I'm 166 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: not stopping anybody else, right, but if they. 167 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Want to interview with you, they want to interview with you. 168 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: But also the way serious is set up, as you know, 169 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: they're going to interview with a myriad of people, So 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: I am not in any way. 171 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: You're not the only one here. 172 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just trying to keep them from interviewing with me, right. 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: I remember Hove came and he was just like sitting 174 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: in the lobby and I had come into work and 175 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing? 176 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: You just sit here? He was like yeah. I was like, 177 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: you want to do an interview real quick? I got 178 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: a studio. He's like, you have no problem, so we 179 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: go do the interview. 180 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: They tried to fire me because they said I interviewed 181 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: jay Z without clearance. 182 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: Now, you know, they should have been applauding you. 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: And it was pre recorded, so like if you didn't 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: want to use the interview, you didn't have to use 185 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: the interview. But they tried to say that I was 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: like stepping outside of you know, the program. 187 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: But it aired on their station. 188 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you aired it somewhere Like it was 189 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: like I got this interview, I will put it on 190 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: my IG page. 191 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: I'll put it on my Facebook page. It aired on there. 192 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: So there's a book called The Gifted Adult. Yeah, and 193 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 4: in this book, within the first two pages, they give 194 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: two examples of adults who are gifted and it shows 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: up in their overachievement, it shows up in their type 196 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: A you know, assessment of personality. Right, It shows up 197 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: in their ability to show up, and this becomes a 198 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: problem at their jobs because people start to feel like 199 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,239 Speaker 4: they're outworking them. People start to feel like they're outdoing 200 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: them right, and then it becomes you think you're better 201 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 4: than me. Yes, So this is the dynamic I have 202 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: experienced in many places. So whereas you said, oh, they 203 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: should be applauding you, I texted Hove on my T 204 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 4: mobile sidekick because that was the time, and that. 205 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: Just lets you know how old we are. 206 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: And I was like, Hey, they're trying to fire me 207 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 4: for interviewing you. And he said, brebating on what you said. 208 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: He said, well, not verbadam, but he said they should 209 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: be promoting you. But notice who are the over achievers 210 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: in this conversation. See how all the overachievers had the 211 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: same response. Right, No, the way, I'm in a way, 212 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: I'm doing too much, and I'm a girl, I'm a 213 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: woman doing too much. 214 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: Shut the fa. 215 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what that's what they think. That's what a 216 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: lot of that's what a lot of the energy is. 217 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: A lot of the energy is shut up. And even 218 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: if if you won't let me at least make me think, 219 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: let me just let me think. I remember Green Lantern 220 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: telling me, you know what your reputation is that you 221 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: are hard to over and even harder and I was like, 222 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: my mother, I'm sure he is very proud, but that 223 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: was so you know, as serious. I So what ended 224 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: up happening was I went to. 225 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: HR and shared with that. 226 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: This is before I knew that HR see the game 227 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: that you be telling them about that. I didn't know 228 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: that the HR ain't for you, it's for them. So 229 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 4: I went to HR like, oh, listen, I'm having trouble 230 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: with my sub period. 231 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: You know, he's not very. 232 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: Kind, and I'm thinking that they're gonna set me up 233 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: to like a solution. 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: Baby. 235 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: They said, from now on, you will not speak to him. 236 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: You will speak to this other person who will relate 237 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: to him. 238 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 239 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: So I'm like, I mean, I that's not like a solution, 240 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: but I guess you know, so now I do this 241 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: for a year. 242 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: I do this for a year. 243 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: Now I'm dating Pusher t As you can see that 244 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: rappers I have dated are very great MC's because I 245 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: have high quality, high quality. 246 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: That was two. 247 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: Let me say, I mean, you know, I mean, I'm 248 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: glad you shared that information. 249 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: But well, I think it's I think it's valid in Shouteau, Virginia, 250 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: his beautiful wife and their beautiful son, because we grow up, 251 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: you know, we grow up, and I think it's important 252 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: that we acknowledge that people have like full lifespans. 253 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: People that people might know. 254 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: You know. 255 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: And I just feel like, if I'm who came before you, 256 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: you know, I'm a good I'm a good I'm a 257 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: good record. 258 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: So I remember I got invited to the. 259 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: Uh MTV Music Awards right. 260 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: By PUSH's manager. They were like, we're gonna be out here. 261 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: Let us know if you want to come. Now. 262 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: You if you have someone who's on radio and they 263 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: have a hip hop show and they can go to 264 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: the MTV Music Awards, wouldn't you say, head on out there, 265 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: bring a dat machine and a mic. 266 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: See how many interviews you can get. 267 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: Right? 268 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: So I tell the person that I have to talk 269 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: to to talk to the boss. 270 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I want to go. Can we find someone 271 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: to cover my shift? He says yes, he finds someone 272 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: to cover my shift. He says, your shift is covered, 273 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: you can go. I head out there. While I'm out there, 274 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: I get a call. I get a call from my 275 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: boss saying you going to the MTV Music Awards is 276 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: an example of severe and subordination, and so we will 277 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: be terminating your contract, I said, but I followed the. 278 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Protocol, got someone to cover my shield. 279 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: I spoke to this other person. 280 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: He said, well, you were supposed to speak to me, Well, 281 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: not according to human resource lol. The person in the 282 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: back who said yeah, So I said, well, not according 283 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: to human resources. He said, well according to me. So 284 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I then went back to you. 285 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: Didn't get no interviews. At least getting the interviews and 286 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: keep them for yourself. 287 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: I didn't even have I didn't get didn't even have 288 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: adapt machine. 289 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay. 290 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: But I went back to New York and they fired me. 291 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: And then I went on my Space and I said, 292 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 4: you know, I did like an announcement, like, you know, 293 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: you won't be able to hear my show anymore. I'm 294 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: really it's really unfortunate that my boss, you know, who 295 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: is a black man, just didn't feel like it was necessary, 296 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: like it wasn't necessary for him to protect me in 297 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: this situation. But nonetheless, it is what it is. And 298 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: I hope that I can create other ways, you know, 299 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: to reach y'all. He saw that post used it and 300 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: have me from serious for seven years. He said that 301 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: that post was an indication of my like wanting to 302 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: come back and like harm him. 303 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: That little chain. How booty get you every time? Get 304 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: you every time. 305 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: But you know what that that situation speaks to a 306 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: number of situations where people hold them, people holding me 307 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: to a standard they don't hold them. So it was like, 308 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna treat you any old way and you just 309 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: gonna take You just need to take it. 310 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: You just need to accept it. 311 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know when this happens, Shannon, but even 312 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: within the zeitgeist now, it's like I am expected to 313 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: just take whatever is given to me and shut the 314 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: fuck up, and I will not. I don't understand that 315 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: no matter what jobs I've had, if I speak on it, 316 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: it becomes she's complaining. It's like, well, I'm I'm expressing 317 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: my experience. 318 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: And if you. 319 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: Haven't noticed, remember I told you, I'm just giving you this. 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: This happened, and this happened, and this happened. I'm not 321 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: speaking to what they thought. I'm not speaking to how 322 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: they made me feel. I'm just telling you these are 323 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,479 Speaker 4: the series of events, and you can judge for yourself. 324 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: But ultimately this idea that like I am somehow not 325 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: allowed to have struggle, like I'm not allowed to have 326 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: a bad experience without there being this doubt painted on me. 327 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: Quick math. 328 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: The less your business spends on operations, multiple systems and 329 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: delivering your product or service, the more margin you have 330 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: and the more money you keep. But with higher expenses 331 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: on materials, employees, distribution, and barring everything's costs. 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There's no way this 351 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: could have happened this way. She must be leaving something out. 352 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: Until I got kicked out that Emmy's party. 353 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: What'd you do to get kicked out to Hemmy's party? Damn, 354 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: we can't take you nowhere? 355 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: What you do? 356 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: I go to a lot of places because I'm lovable 357 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: and people like me and I'm delightful. 358 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: I am delightful. 359 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: What did you do? 360 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: I arrived? 361 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you arrived, Okay, you're inside. 362 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: No. So here's how it went. 363 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: So, because Hollywood is just so inundated with whiteness, there 364 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: was this conglomeration folks that came together to say, you 365 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: know what, We're gonna have a black Ammy's party because 366 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: you know, have you. 367 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: Been to the Amb's parties. 368 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: I've never been to am. 369 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: So like they're just you know, they're just very blah like. 370 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: It's just a bunch of people sitting around like. 371 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: Am I right? Am I right? Oh my god? K'res 372 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: stink'restin you're sin Like that's the vibe ya. But you 373 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: know when we party, we want to have a little 374 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: bit more fun too. It you know, called the nice 375 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: but up Derek. So the in twenty. 376 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: Eighteen was the first one where they had a black 377 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 4: a mes party. So basically it's like everybody who'dne been 378 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: to all the mother parties come in this one. Yes, 379 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: And I went to that party with Jill Scott. And 380 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: one of the people that planned that party was Isa 381 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 4: Ray's publicist, Vanessa Anderson, So she was one of the 382 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: planners of the party. But there's a bunch of people 383 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 4: involved in planning this party, correct. So I show up 384 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: with Jill, and Jill's manager was like, hey, you know, 385 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: can we And I remember hearing Vanessa go like, oh 386 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: come han, Amanda, mind you. I'm like, I don't know 387 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: what I'm doing wrong right here, Like I'm just standing 388 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 4: with Jill Scott. 389 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: But nonetheless we came in the party, we had a 390 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: great time. 391 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: So but and I said to Issa, like, I don't 392 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: know what's going on with your publicist, but like she 393 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: she got something wrong. 394 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: She got a problem with me, and she was like, 395 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: that's between y'all. 396 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 397 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: I said, well, it's not really between y'all because I 398 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: don't have a problem with her, but she seems to 399 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: have a problem with me, and she was like, that's 400 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: none of my business. 401 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. 402 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: So now next year it's twenty nineteen, and it was 403 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: interesting because in twenty eighteen, it was packed like a 404 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: big in front of that place. 405 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, there was like nobody there. 406 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: But I was at the HBO party, and every black 407 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: person I saw, I would tell them, make sure you 408 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: go to the Black and The's party because I am 409 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: about creating community and I want us to be together, right. 410 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: So I pull up with my homegirl, Kathia and Kendrick 411 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: Sampson who's on Insecure, you know the show where I 412 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: don't have any friends. So I pull up with Kendrick Sampson. 413 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: So we get to the door and I learned later 414 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: that she just is white passing. But this is a 415 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 4: Mexican girl, but like she looked like a white girl. 416 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: Okay. So she at the door for the for the 417 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: Emys for what kind of party? 418 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: Black party? 419 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: There you go? So she tells us you can go in, 420 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: you can go and you can't go in. 421 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: Now. 422 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: I think she's talking to my friend because my friend 423 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 4: is a realtor. And she says, no, you can't go in. 424 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 4: And I said, well, why can't I go in? She says, 425 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: you're just on the list to not be able to 426 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: go in. 427 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: Now. 428 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: I had also been invited to this party directly by 429 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: Jesse Williams. So Jesse Williams said, texted me and said, 430 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: please come to the Black Emmy's party. 431 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: Okay. 432 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna 433 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: come to the Black Amy's party. Yeah, of course that's 434 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: what I am about. So I come to the party 435 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, uh, why am I not being 436 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: let in? 437 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: Hm? 438 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 4: Kendrick says, I'm gonna go. Look, I'm gonna go look 439 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: around and see why you're not being let in. Well, baby, 440 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm not stand it outside no party, right, So I 441 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 4: head out, but then I'm stopped by just by this brother, 442 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: Joey Harris, who works with Jana Jackson. Joey's like and 443 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: Joey's like one of these people who's just always he's 444 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: his disposition is just always like glowing. It's kind of 445 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: like Jordan, right. So he's like, where are you going. 446 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, they said that they won't let me. 447 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: In the party. He's like, absolutely not. Come on, Bat, 448 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna get at you in this party, Loia. So 449 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: we come back and so this is an example of 450 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: someone trying to protect and look out right. 451 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: So he brings me back and he's like, why are 452 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: you not letting her in the party? By the way, 453 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: at this time, I'm hosting Bring the Funny on MBC. 454 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: There is a billboard the size of a hotel two 455 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: blocks away with me and my co stars on the show, 456 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: Chrisy Tagan, Jeff Foxworthy and. 457 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: Keenan Thompson and can I just put it a pin 458 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: in this really quick to get them their props. 459 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: I had a real hard time on Insecure, and I'll 460 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 4: get to that, but being on this show was so 461 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: affirming because everyone there was so just happy to be happy, 462 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: and I hadn't experienced that on that set, like from 463 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: the showrunner to the writers, to my stage manager Roger, 464 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: to my co stars, Like I just got to be 465 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: myself and it really let me know it's not you, 466 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: it's the environment and I don't get to talk enough 467 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: about like the positive shit because people are always so attracted. 468 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: To the negative. 469 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 4: But I remember day one, Christy Tagan, we had to 470 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 4: do rehearsals for the first day and they had me. 471 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: In the stilettos. 472 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: Shannon, oh my god, like I would have had you 473 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: on the work for Yes, feet were crying and it 474 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: was I had an injury from these fucking stilettos. And 475 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: the next day Chrissy Teagan brought a foot massage from 476 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: sharper Image and left it in my dressing room for 477 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: the duration of the shoot. Like that's the kind of people, 478 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: you know, just generous for no reason, right, And we 479 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: just had a blast. We had such a good time. 480 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: And I remember Jeff fox Worthy one time they wanted 481 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: us to do this ad where we had to pass 482 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: around to drink, and I don't drink, so it's like, 483 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't mind drinks being around, but like me pretending 484 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: like I drink ate my jib So I was like, 485 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: I just don't feel comfortable doing this. 486 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: Now it becomes a thing. This is how I get 487 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: label difficult because I didn't get we didn't get any 488 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: prep for this. 489 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: But you need to go along with whatever they give you. 490 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: Didn't you know that whatever they give you you were 491 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: supposed to do well. When you're a woman, it's even 492 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: more sh quick stirring up trouble. So Jeff Foxworthy saw 493 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 4: shit going left and he stepped in and he said, yeah, 494 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: I don't feel comfortable with it either. 495 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 5: Wow. 496 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: He used his fame, his white manness, you know, he 497 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: used his disposition to just take the heat off of me. 498 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: He said, I got you to this day. I really 499 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: want to do a show with Jet fox Worth. 500 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: We would just like fish and talk ship like that's 501 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: a goal I want to do if you want to produce. 502 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: I've been present while someone is fishing, but I have 503 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: not been given the marble. 504 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: So you hadn't had a rod or a pole in 505 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: your hand. So I have. 506 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: I have dated men from the South. I have been 507 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: present and had crappy cooked for me. 508 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: Yes, oh okay, so yes, So I think you'd be 509 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: more of a shore fisherman, you know, on the land, 510 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: can't be in the boat. 511 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I'm saying, we go, we. 512 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: Go, yeah, baby step Yeah it's harder in the boat 513 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: than on the land. 514 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably, So really, now. 515 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: I thought there were more fish in the center. 516 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: They're more fish, yeah, but when they go way out there, 517 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: they're they're normally fishing for a particular type of fish. 518 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Like when you're on when you're on the shore, you 519 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: fish with anything to buy, catfish, crabby, you know, perch, bass, 520 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: But normally when you go out you fish for you know, 521 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe you're trying to catch tuna, your branzino, something. 522 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: Like that, snapper. Yes, okay, I'm into that. 523 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: You know about fish, you just never actually had a 524 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: rod in your hand and like brought it off. 525 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: So I am I hyper fixate. So I know a 526 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: lot about a lot of things because I become immersed. Yes, 527 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: So like I'm a scuba diver, so I know a 528 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: lot about fish. And then at one point it was 529 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna learn everything I know about dogs, and 530 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: now I'm gonna learn everything I need to know about 531 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 4: Game of Thronts. 532 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna learn everything I need to know about you know, 533 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: n C Dole football, Like I mean, like, but I 534 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: do know a lot about fish. 535 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you say you. 536 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: Because I'm I'm I'm in the middle of a story 537 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: and sometimes I veer off, but I always come back because. 538 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: I want to make sure we get to your insecure role. 539 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: So I just wanted to shout that out because Bring 540 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: the Funny was a beautiful experience and it was super 541 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: super dup, super duper super duper dope. So when we're 542 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: here and Joey Harris is trying to get me in 543 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: this party, the white girl says again, Well, the white 544 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: passing girl says again, yeah, no, she can't come to party. 545 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: So Joey's like, make a one side and figure out 546 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: what's going on. Again, I'm not about to stand out here, 547 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: so I started to walk away again, and now Elijah 548 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: Kelly comes out. He's like, hey, hey, Hey, where are 549 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: you going. 550 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: I said, they're not trying to let me in this 551 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: party that I was invited to by Jesse Williams. 552 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: You attempt to call Jesse. 553 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: I attempt to call Jesse. I texted him, but he's 554 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 3: in a party, you know, so I texted him. 555 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: So then Elijah is like, well, I'm one of the 556 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: planners of the party, so they can't stop you. They 557 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: can't stop me from bringing you in. So he starts 558 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: to bring me in at homegirl grabs my arm. But 559 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 4: I remember when I told you I've been in New 560 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: Yorker since I was twelve. 561 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: Shake that off. 562 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, lose me? 563 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Crazy. 564 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: So we go in the party and I go and 565 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: sit down. No sorry, I go in the party, I 566 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: go by the bar. My homegirl goes to the bathroom. 567 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: I'm standing by the bar and a security guard approaches me. 568 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: A security guard your size approaches me and says, hey, 569 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to ask you to leave. And I said, well, 570 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: why why do I need to leave? And he said, 571 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: because you're you're being asked to leave. I said, well, 572 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: who's asking me to leave? He said, well, let me 573 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: go find out? 574 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: Why? 575 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Did he a Well, I mean you came and say 576 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: they're asking you to leave, and you don't know who's 577 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: asking me to leave. 578 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: You got to go find out he was given an order. Yeah. 579 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: So now he comes back and he says, Vanessa Anderson 580 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: is asking me to leave. I said, we need to 581 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: find Vanessa and have her come tell me herself. 582 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Puplis yes. 583 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: I said, well you need to have Vanessa come and 584 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: find me and tell me herself. 585 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 4: So he then leaves again and comes back with three 586 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: other men, and one of the men now is a brother, 587 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 4: and he's walking towards me cursing. So he's literally walking 588 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: towards me, saying you need to get the fuck out 589 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: of here, you need to leave, and I'm ly mind you. 590 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: I'm I'm dressing down, honey, okay, And he's like. 591 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: You need to leave now. Cathia was in the bathroom. 592 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: She's now just come up and I'm looking around and 593 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: I can see people seeing this, right, So I'm like, 594 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: why do I have to leave? 595 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: Because we've said so. So there's like violent energy and 596 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: language coming towards you. 597 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Right. 598 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 4: I ain't no sucker, okay, And but I'm also not stupid. 599 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: I can't fight for men, so, like I mean, so 600 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: I the first one who was kind, he had come 601 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: up right here, but then the other three were right here. 602 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: So I have to realize I've lost this fight. 603 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: So I pivot to leave, but I pivot really fast 604 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: because I'm gonna still say my mother's piece. 605 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: So when I pivot and. 606 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: I say I pivot to go for you, I guess 607 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: they thought I was about to do something. So the 608 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 4: white guy steps in between me and the two the 609 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: and the brother and chest bumps me and throws me 610 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: back right. So now this is an assault because I 611 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: hadn't raised my hand to do anything to anybody. So 612 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: luckily I'm nimbleing a heel so I but now it's like, 613 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: you know, now I've been assaulted, so your natural response. 614 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: So I'm about to go super Saiyan. 615 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: On these motherfuckers Goku over here, I'm like, ah, and 616 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: I hear in one ear, I hear the security guard saying, please, Amanda, 617 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: don't do it, and it feels like plead, miss Cili, 618 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: don't do it. Don't be like me, miss Cili, don't 619 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: be like Miss Sophia. And then in the other ear, 620 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: I have my homegirl who's from the like this is 621 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: something buoy and all I'm hearing is big. But I 622 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: look around and I see nobody come into my aid. 623 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: All these agents and people that I see around now. 624 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: None of them are Insecure. None of them are the 625 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: actors from Insecure. 626 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: But there's people whose faces I still remember, and they 627 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: will not get a hug in a party either. 628 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: I just refuse somebody a hug the other day. 629 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: For this, and. 630 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: I realized, like, you you gotta go. 631 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: So we walk outside and the security guard says to 632 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: me and I'm so sorry, like I'm just doing my job, 633 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: and I said I feel you, but you have to 634 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: ask yourself is it worth doing a job that makes 635 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: you go against your moral compass. He was liked you, 636 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: so I hope he left that job because he could 637 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: tell that he was he was mixed up in some boolly. 638 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: So We're in a back alley. 639 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: Like waiting for a car, and I'm crying because this 640 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: feels like, you know, I've been humiliated and I didn't 641 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: do nothing. And that was the night that me and 642 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: my homegirl became super like that became my sister because 643 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: she was like, when you would tell me that she 644 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: would happen to you, I would think she must be 645 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: keeping something out. But I literally just watched you do nothing. 646 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: You literally just came somewhere. You were invited, and even 647 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: though you tried to leave, multiple people said no, you 648 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: belong here. Multiple people. Another person on this team said 649 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: you belong here. So I'm bringing you in here. And 650 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: then when I tell the story on my Instagram and 651 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: on my podcast, it ends up getting turned into this 652 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: whole other thing of you don't belong here. Amanda Seals 653 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: doesn't belong here, And that's the thing that's a narrative 654 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: that has come about, Like I don't perpetuate. 655 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't belong in these places. 656 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: And what ended up happening two days later is that 657 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: I got a call from Lisa and she called me 658 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 4: and said, Hey, I heard what happened this weekend. I 659 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: just want you to know I have nothing to do 660 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: with it. Would you be willing to talk to Vanessa? No. 661 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: I try to talk Vanessa at the party. 662 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: Sit two days too late. So I've never talked about 663 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: this publicly. 664 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: Because it has always been incredibly important to me to 665 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: protect Lisa, because I know that Issa is doing something 666 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: within this business that so few people get to do, 667 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: and it's not something I desire to do, like I'm 668 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: not interested in getting one hundred million dollar production deal, 669 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: Like that's not a life that I want for myself. 670 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 4: But I know that her role is very important, and 671 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 4: so I've always protected Lisa. However, there's just been enough 672 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: instances at this point where I should have been protected 673 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 4: by Lisa and I wasn't. And one of my biggest 674 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: problems that we have discussed several times in this interview 675 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: is that I think people are going to show up 676 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: for me the way I show up for them, And 677 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: now it's at a point where my protecting of Lisa 678 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: has become turned on to me and something that people 679 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: are using against me. There's a whole narrative that is 680 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 4: completely false that people keep spinning. They keep saying, you 681 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: know that I'm this mean girl on this set, that 682 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: I that I that I harmed these people on this set. 683 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 4: I just want to point out something very basic. How 684 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: can I be a mean girl on a set that 685 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: ain't my set? How it's your show. You are my boss. 686 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't even have the capacity to be the mean 687 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: girl here because you can fire me. So there's no 688 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: way for me to be a mean girl in this situation. 689 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: And I know some people that may buck up against 690 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: like the confirmation bias that they've created, but it simply 691 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: is the truth. 692 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: You know. 693 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: When I got to that show, I had had a 694 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: show on Lisa's website on YouTube, I have my show 695 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: Get Your Life. And when it came out on her 696 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: instant on her YouTube, unfortunately the press picked it up 697 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: as Lisa Ray's new show. 698 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: But I'm but she hadn't. She didn't do anything except 699 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: put it on her. 700 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: Site, Like I put all my money into it, I 701 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: wrote it, I started, et cetera, and so I said, hey, 702 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: you know, would you mind, you know, tweeting to correct this? 703 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: And she just wouldn't. 704 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: She wouldn't promote any of the shows, you know, And 705 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: I just felt like that was unfortunate, But it didn't 706 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: make me. It didn't change my view of her character, 707 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: like it just let me know, like, Okay, this is 708 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: how she do business. But in that time, her publicist 709 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: was interacting with me and was from just day one 710 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 4: just so acerbic, like just vitrol it for no reason, 711 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: to the point where Lisa's business manager had to say 712 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: to the publicists like, can you please try and. 713 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: Be kinder to Amanda? She's like a talent on our channel, do. 714 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: You and you have no reason why she would treat 715 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: you behave. 716 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: So Lisa says, would you talk to Vanessa? 717 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: No? I said, sure, you know why? Why who's my boss? 718 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 4: Who's my boss in this situation? 719 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: What is the boss? 720 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: And where do I have to go back to work? 721 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: So what's the game you talked about? 722 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: You had to play the game. 723 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: But hold on, but there was a situation earlier Amanda, 724 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Well you said that ain't my business. 725 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: Y'all need to handle that. 726 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: Now she wants you to talk to her you're good 727 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: at math. You good at math sharpedon Shannon shopping. 728 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying because you like you can't 729 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: spell sharp and without shop. 730 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 3: Now, So, okay, you have So I take the call. 731 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: You should just say I want to meet face to face. 732 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: I want to look one. I like to look a person. 733 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: My feelings were hurt. My feelings were hurt. 734 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: I just got assaulted in a party for black people 735 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: in Hollywood. And I've been in Hollywood longer than. 736 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: Majority of the people in this fucking party, right, my 737 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: feelings are hurt. 738 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: Okay, you take the call. 739 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, Mana, this is Vanessa. I just want you 740 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: to know that. 741 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 4: So none of this has anything to do with Lisa. 742 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: That's the first thing she says. None of this has 743 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: anything to do with Lisa. 744 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: So I just want you to know that. But I 745 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: do want you to understand that it was me who 746 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: kicked you out the party. Okay. So I just want 747 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: you to know that the reason I kicked you at 748 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: the party is because I don't like you. Okay. 749 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: Well that's all I need to know. There's nothing else 750 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: for us to talk about, and I hang up. She 751 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: calls me back immediately. 752 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: Why do you hang up? 753 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: I said, because there's nothing else for us to talk about. 754 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: She says, don't you want to know why I don't 755 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 4: like you? 756 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 5: No? 757 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: Not, actually, actually I don't. 758 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: No, I don't because it's none of my business. I've 759 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: never done anything to you, and for you to put 760 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 4: me in harm's way off of literally nothing means that 761 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: I don't need to talk to you about why you 762 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: don't like me. You need to talk to your therapist 763 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: about why you don't like me. And I hung up 764 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 4: the phone. 765 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: She called back, No, she called around. She starts a 766 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: smear campaign. 767 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh so this whole time your boss and I don't 768 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't do the gossip thing. So 769 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: to have you ever had a conversation with Asa about 770 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: this situation about her publicist? 771 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: You're saying, since the situation at any point? Well, I 772 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 3: mean I had that one time where I said to you, yeah, 773 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: and she. 774 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: Said, well that y'all need to work. That ain't got 775 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: nothing to do with me. 776 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: So now, after this conversation with the publicist and I 777 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: get off the phone, I start getting word that she 778 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 4: is going around to the different publications and different people, 779 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 4: because it starts coming back to me and she's going 780 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: around saying that I was in danger of getting fired 781 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 4: from Insecure, which I honestly I don't even know if 782 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: that was true or not, but I had never that 783 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: had never been brought to my attention. She starts going 784 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: around saying that I got in a fight at the party. 785 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: She starts going around saying that I peede on the floor. 786 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: At the party. 787 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: What are you a puppy? 788 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: I got to move it to the side, Like what 789 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: are we talking about? So well, I feel like I'm 790 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 4: gonna answer your question, okay. So Esa then calls me 791 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 4: again and says, hey, I just want to know if 792 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: this is going to be a problem on set, because 793 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: now this is going on for two weeks and this. 794 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: Going viral. 795 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: In earlier in the conversation, you were like, why do 796 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 4: you care if people who don't know you like are 797 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 4: saying mean things about you? And it's like, I wish 798 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 4: I had that, And I'm at a point in my 799 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 4: life where I'm there. 800 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: But. 801 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 4: It's really up when the pylon happens and it has 802 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 4: nothing to do with reality, Like I don't even mind 803 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 4: a pylon if it's something I really did. This situation, 804 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: I'm like, how am I the villain in this situation. Well, 805 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: you shouldn't have gone to her party because it was 806 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: her party. Well it's not just her party. There's several 807 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 4: people at the party. It's not like I crashed her 808 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: baby shower. But also I'm looking at Issa because it's like, 809 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: this is your responsibility. We are both to your employees, 810 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 4: and this is a part of leadership. This is the 811 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 4: important part of leadership. And that's what makes leadership so 812 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: annoying is you're going to manage people. Yes, you do, 813 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: and personalities and it's a very difficult task, but it 814 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: is part for the course. 815 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Yes, but that's why you got the hundred million or 816 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: whatever you got, is to manage your employees. 817 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 4: So I said, you know, listen, I am not saying 818 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: that it's going to be a problem on set, but 819 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 4: I do think it is a problem that you don't 820 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 4: feel that you need to step in. And she was like, well, 821 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: then we just have a different in opinion, Like I 822 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 4: just this is this is between y'all. This is between y'all. 823 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: Well, if it was between us, why did you intervene 824 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: and say I need to that she wanted to call 825 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I needed to talk to her. If you felt it 826 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: was just between us, because you interjected yourself into that. 827 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: If it's between two people, I shouldn't have interference for 828 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: someone else to say we need to get together the 829 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: two people either she reaches out to me or I 830 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: reach out to her. I don't need you to intervene, 831 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: but you felt the need to intervene in that. But 832 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: now you don't feel an intervene to go anything up 833 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: the intervention to go any futher. 834 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. 835 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: So I'm also promoting my book right, so this hits 836 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: me because now the press is canceling. So this is 837 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: now affecting me professionally. And I didn't do shit right 838 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 4: and I don't like you, in my opinion, is not 839 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 4: a sufficient reason to sick for security guards on me 840 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 4: and remove me from a black space, which also begs 841 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 4: the question what the fuck is a black space? Because 842 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: we like to claim that they're safe spaces, and you 843 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: know that they're for us, but at this point black 844 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 4: spaces are literally it's just black faces, and that even 845 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 4: is you know something to do with this pressure that 846 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: I've been going through, but to stay on course, So. 847 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: Now we have to go back to shooting. 848 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Uncomfortable I'm uncomfortable. 849 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 4: And I ain't ey more sick, and nobody's saying nothing 850 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 4: to me. Everybody knows because at this time it's just 851 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: the women shooting. Everybody knows what's going on. They don't 852 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 4: say nothing to me, and that's just fucking mean. 853 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: It's mean. They don't say nothing to me. 854 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 4: And let me tell you from the beginning, I've been 855 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: trying with these ladies because I want to. 856 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 3: Make community everywhere I go. I didn't invited them to 857 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: my house. 858 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 4: They didn't come. I brought them gifts, they said thanks. 859 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 4: I tried to plan a retreat. They said, we don't 860 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 4: want to go. You know, I put I created our 861 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 4: group chat for the show. I created game nights for 862 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 4: the show. 863 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: You why to participate it? 864 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: I mean eventually, but like reluctantly. But I'm trying to do. 865 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 4: This, you know, because I think that this is It's 866 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: like when I walked in and I was like, I 867 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: feel like it's my role to make you feel comfortable. 868 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 4: Like I feel like that's my way of getting around 869 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 4: this thing, this stigma that people like to put on 870 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 4: me that they got to do with how I really exist? 871 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 2: Okay, and. 872 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 4: In this situation now I'm publicly now being like excoriated. 873 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 4: You got this earthworm gym looking Nigga Sarunas out here 874 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 4: talking about well, you don't. 875 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: No one likes you, so that's why you weren't invited. 876 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 4: What's hilarious about that is that we were only in 877 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 4: two scenes together, So this is not somebody that really 878 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: knows me. 879 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: But you know what the other thing is, Shannon Sharpton. 880 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 3: This is a brother who ended up. 881 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: Having a child with someone on the show, and when 882 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 4: he had the child, there was rumors that were going 883 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 4: around that he was not claiming the child, and so 884 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 4: these people had started talking about it. But the people 885 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 4: that are talking about Ami people. I'm not involved in it, 886 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 4: but I hear it because we do say and then 887 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 4: he come around and it is, hey, I don't like 888 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 4: like that. 889 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: I don't like like that. 890 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 4: It's not honest. So even though that's not my boy, 891 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 4: I pull him to the side. I said, Pete, people 892 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 4: I hear are talking about you behind your back about 893 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: this situation, and I said, listen, this is a small business. 894 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, if you are 895 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 4: this child's father, I think you should explain it to 896 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 4: the rooftops. 897 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: If you are not claimed. If you are and you 898 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: don't want to claim. 899 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 4: This child, I would like for you to just consider 900 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 4: rethinking that because as somebody with a father that did 901 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 4: not show up for me, I really feel like she 902 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 4: would really benefit from having a father in her life. 903 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: And he was like, well, why ain't nobody coming to me? 904 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 4: I said, I'm literally coming to you right now, and 905 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 4: you ain't even my peoples. But I don't think it's 906 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: fair that you're being talked about behind your back by 907 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: people that you think are your people's. 908 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: He said, well, you know, thank you for that. 909 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: That's the same nigga that fixed his mouth to jump 910 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 4: on the bandwagon if we hate Amanda, because it was 911 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 4: a bandwagon and he want to be seen. He thought 912 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 4: maybe he was going to He thought he was going 913 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 4: to get an extra right, he thought he was going 914 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 4: to get an extra scene or something. So now we're 915 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 4: on set and I finally say that. He said, so, 916 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 4: are you just not going to talk about this because 917 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 4: it's now going on for three weeks and my mental 918 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 4: health is suffering, okay, and. 919 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: I just what. 920 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 3: I just it was a tough time. 921 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 4: And she's like, well, you know, like what do you 922 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 4: want to talk about and I said, listen, like this 923 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 4: was a terrible experience. 924 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: This was terrible. 925 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 4: I like literally cried, like face to face with her, 926 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: like this is terrible, and she's like, this is the 927 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: first time. 928 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 3: She finally says like, well, I'm sorry that happened to you. 929 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 4: It took three conversations and I said, well, you know, 930 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: I'd like to talk to you further because I need 931 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 4: you to speak to Vanessa. She is trying to ruin 932 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 4: my career. She's like, I don't think so, like she's 933 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 4: trying to ruin my O. Like, so I bring her 934 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 4: into the room, I bring her into my trailer, and 935 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 4: I had to do another four laws of power. 936 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 3: I sat her on a higher plane than. 937 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 4: Myself so that she can feel as the queen, and 938 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 4: in this setting she is the queen, right, And I say, 939 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 4: you know, I don't need nothing from you, so I 940 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 4: don't have a reason to lie to you. But the 941 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 4: people that work for you, like in close quarters, as 942 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: whose names are really attached to you, they will lie 943 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 4: to you. And I had to convince her that like 944 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 4: this is really happening, like I'm not making this up, 945 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 4: and even if it's turns out to me not happening. 946 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: I still need you to speak to her to deduce 947 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 4: what it is, what is or isn't right. So then 948 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 4: she she finally went and spoke to her. The damage 949 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 4: is done, right because now you see how every few 950 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 4: years this becomes a thing. And it was started from 951 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: a lie, right, it was started from a lie. And 952 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 4: you know, it's not about convincing people, because I don't 953 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 4: need to convince nobody of nothing. But I just don't 954 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 4: ever feel comfortab with people forming opinions not based on truth. Shin. 955 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 4: I got in trouble with saying nigga uninsecure. I got 956 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 4: in trouble for telling a brother he was a revolutionary 957 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 4: nigga in trouble, like literally got pulled aside and was told, 958 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 4: we need to talk about the incident that you had. 959 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: I guess when you in corporate, you got to keep 960 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: it corporate. Man. 961 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 4: We say nigga on the show. We say nigga all 962 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 4: day on this mother show. And it was a black 963 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: woman who pulled me to the side. And this brother 964 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 4: is tagged from the neck down where eating ed the 965 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 4: bulls on set from Detroit. 966 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's nigga. 967 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 4: But I had said to him, I had said because 968 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 4: someone there was like a Malcolm X quote in my 969 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 4: trailer and he sets my trailer, my closing my trailer. 970 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 3: So I came to him. I was like, hey, did 971 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 3: you leave that Malcolm X cot in my trailer? And 972 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 3: he was like nah. I was like, damn, you don't 973 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 3: need revolutionary nigga around here. He was like, I'm not 974 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: a nigga. And I said, okay, I get it. Hm 975 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 3: who said that? And I kept it moving. This was 976 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,439 Speaker 3: the incident. So she's like, we need to talk about 977 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 3: the incident and I said, well, what incident? 978 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 4: Well, when you just referred to him as a nigga, 979 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 4: so I actually I refer to as a revolutionary nigga. 980 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: It was a compliment. Yeah, But when he said he's 981 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 3: not a nigga, you didn't take it back. I said, 982 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 3: like you mean like take back seats, I mean, where 983 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 3: are we at? 984 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 4: And she was like, well, I said, but we literally 985 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 4: say nigga on this show, like literally. She was like, well, 986 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna need to apologize to him. But this is 987 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 4: the action of like I need to you need to 988 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 4: bow down. People are aways trying to get me to 989 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,959 Speaker 4: like apologize for I didn't do wrong because they because 990 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 4: they feel like I'm too haughty, they feel I'm too 991 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 4: sure of myself. 992 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: They feel like I need to be cut. 993 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: Down to size all the time. And the unfortunate part 994 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 4: of that is that it's not a reflection of me. 995 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 4: It's a reflection of them, right, because what is it 996 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: about me that makes you feel small? 997 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 3: And you want me to get down to your level? 998 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: Why do you feel small? What's going on with you? 999 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: Who made you feel that way? That's not fair to you? 1000 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: Come on, rise up, it's in you. You know what 1001 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, that's that's really what that is. So 1002 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: she brings him into my trailer. 1003 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 2: You fake apologize. 1004 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 4: Because she there and I was like, oh, you're good. 1005 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 4: She's like, no, I need to stay in case something happens. 1006 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 3: What's gonna happen? I look at him. What you think 1007 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: is going to happen? He's like, I don't know. 1008 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I said, you know what, 1009 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 4: I apologize for calling you nigga. I did not intend 1010 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 4: to offend you. Of course, in my head what I 1011 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 4: said was I should have called you a bit, but 1012 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 4: I didn't say I didn't say that. I didn't say that, 1013 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 4: but it felt like right, it felt like, so now 1014 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 4: we got to shoot the car scene when we're driving 1015 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 4: in Malibu. 1016 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 3: So we in the car and I'm telling them about 1017 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 3: what happened. 1018 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: And I started crying because I'm a say in soul 1019 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: and because this felt like another instance where I. 1020 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: Was being like bullied. And he said laugh at my 1021 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: mother as I was crying and said, well, you know, 1022 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: you do have a tone. 1023 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: At the end of season one, I pulled eas aside 1024 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: at after this, I said, can we go to dinner? 1025 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: I want to take you to dinner. I took her 1026 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: to dinner. 1027 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 4: I said, you know, I said, I feel like you 1028 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 4: think I have something against you, and I just I 1029 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 4: don't know why you feel that way, because we had 1030 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: been cool from even before this. She was like, well, no, 1031 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: I said, I feel like you have something against me, 1032 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 4: and she said, well, I think you I feel like 1033 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 4: you have something against me. 1034 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, based on whatman? Because against Shannon, 1035 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm on your show. 1036 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: Right, I can't do nothing like I'm I'm only to 1037 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: get scenes adding if you add them. 1038 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm in pocket, baby, I can't do nothing. 1039 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 4: So I said, well, why, I guess I was looking 1040 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 4: at you like your character am I that good of 1041 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 4: an actress. She wrote the character bro what and so 1042 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 4: I said, you know what, So let's clean the slate 1043 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 4: because that's just not. 1044 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 3: I had nothing against you. I really don't. And if 1045 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 3: that came off, that was not my intention. 1046 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 4: But by the end of the show, you know, there 1047 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 4: were just certain scenarios where I had to really always 1048 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 4: be the bigger person and be the bomb to the situation. 1049 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 4: And then in season five she came out of her 1050 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: face when she just came out of her face at 1051 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 4: me one time too many, and I just chose to 1052 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 4: stop being the bomb because the show was rapping. 1053 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 3: It was the end of the season. It was end 1054 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 3: of the series, and I'm just not going to keep 1055 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 3: doing this. 1056 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: So what did you do? 1057 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 3: Nothing? I just stopped communicating. 1058 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, I had a little real and he 1059 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: says that Easa is like most of her set is 1060 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: with women, camera people, et cetera, et cetera, and that 1061 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: she's very empowering to women. 1062 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: Oh I disagree. She wasn't empowering to me. 1063 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 4: She didn't feel like I needed. She just feel like 1064 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 4: I deserved to be protected. I'm only giving a module. 1065 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 4: I'm only giving a portion of this. Yeah, So but 1066 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 4: that was my experience, and nonetheless I have still always 1067 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 4: protected her because I felt like it was my responsibility. 1068 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 3: To do so. 1069 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: But it is not connect you this when you received 1070 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 2: the backlash for the sorority the AKA, do they understand 1071 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: that this is a shit? I don't know. 1072 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 3: I got them. I never understood that. 1073 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: Do you feel now that everybody just nitpicks? They just 1074 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: find like, Okay, a man they got on red today? 1075 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: Why she wearing red? 1076 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 3: What do you think? 1077 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean? 1078 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 3: Does it sound like that? 1079 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 2: Is that how you feel? 1080 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely? They are always looking for something. 1081 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 4: Even these hack writers, who were probably paid by APAK, 1082 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: they wrote articles based on tweets, tweets. They wrote articles 1083 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 4: based on not only my tweets, on other people's tweets, 1084 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 4: like this random person said Amanda needs to change her 1085 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 4: energy Black Enterprise, or an entire article that said Amanda 1086 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 4: Seals complains that she's not invited into black spaces. Mind you, 1087 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 4: these are all spaces that I have worked in and 1088 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 4: there and said and the follow up line was, but 1089 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 4: the Internet, So they anthropomorphized the entire internet. The internet 1090 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 4: says Amanda needs to change her energy. I do not 1091 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 4: need to change my energy. I don't and all of 1092 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 4: those spaces, aside from Black Girl's Rock, have contacted me. 1093 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 3: I don't need to change my energy. 1094 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 4: What needs to change is how we look at energy 1095 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 4: and how we understand energies that aren't necessarily our own. 1096 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 4: So even as we sat here and we have talked, 1097 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 4: I have had to understand your energy, and you. 1098 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: Have asked me to do that. 1099 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 4: And even though it may not be my own, we 1100 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 4: live in this space together, we live on this earth together. 1101 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 4: So we have to gain certain abilities to do that, 1102 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,439 Speaker 4: and that requires a lesser ego. That requires curiosity, which 1103 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: I consider to be an indicative of love. It requires humanity, 1104 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 4: Like we live in a world that is continuously creating 1105 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 4: borders to keep people out because we feel like they 1106 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 4: don't deserve to be here because they're different, or because 1107 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 4: they love some a different kind of person, or they 1108 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 4: believe in something different, etc. And I just I am 1109 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 4: not that kind of person. I've never been that kind 1110 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 4: of person. And it is so it is so liberating 1111 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 4: for me to understand that the reasons that people have 1112 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 4: been telling me. So you're talking about the nitpicking, it's 1113 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 4: not just nitpicking. They assign something to what they're nitpicking 1114 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 4: Amanda has a tone because she's mean. Amanda said this 1115 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 4: because she thinks she's better than other black people. Amanda 1116 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 4: said what she said because she's nasty. None of these 1117 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 4: things are true, but it feels terrible for people to 1118 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 4: assign things to you that are not true, and you 1119 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 4: start to think to yourself, if this is what it's 1120 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 4: like for me to be myself, then maybe I shouldn't 1121 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 4: be here. And as somebody who has had a full 1122 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 4: on nervous breakdown and been suicidal, it is not to 1123 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 4: be taken lightly when people attack character without legitimate. 1124 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 3: Reasons, why credibility, etc. 1125 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 4: And I was told that one of these publications, it 1126 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 4: was told to them, you know, this is the type 1127 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 4: of thing that can drive someone to take their own life. 1128 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 3: And they said, don't go there. This is not a game. 1129 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 4: This whole last month has been such a journey of 1130 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 4: self by fire, right Like I was forced to have 1131 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 4: this journey of self by fire simply because I wanted 1132 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 4: to be embraced in spaces that I embrace. 1133 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: Like there's no scandal. I was supposed to go to Howard. 1134 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 4: To do an event, and I was told that Howard 1135 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 4: rescinded my invitation because of these stories, these stories that 1136 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 4: I have no validity to them, and that I have 1137 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 4: not you know, been a catalyst too, but they are 1138 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 4: now they're proving to be deleterious to like my advancement. 1139 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 4: Oh Amanda Seals was she was attacking Samaria Rice? What 1140 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 4: I asked a valid question that ended up being proven 1141 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 4: by the way I asked a valid question. 1142 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 3: Don't we think that there's something worth questioning? 1143 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 4: And why this this woman whose son was one hundred 1144 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 4: percent unjustly killed by the police. Don't we think that 1145 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 4: there's something to be said for like why are all 1146 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 4: these media outlets like giving her a platform to accuse 1147 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 4: all of these people that are the leaders of. 1148 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: Movements of fraud? 1149 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 4: And you know, my problem is also that I think 1150 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 4: that people understand what I'm saying when I say something. 1151 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 4: And like when I wrote my first book, my uncle, 1152 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 4: who judge in Grenada, he was like, make sure you 1153 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 4: edit that book like a deposition, because it's on paper 1154 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 4: and people cannot read your mind. 1155 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 3: So say it how you want it to be understood, yep, 1156 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 3: which is difficult in one hundred and forty characters, it is. 1157 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 4: But what I was saying with that statement was why 1158 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 4: are all of these black media outlets giving a platform 1159 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 4: without any level of journalism behind it. That is dangerous, 1160 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 4: and they're putting these people mind you. I don't even 1161 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 4: know Sean King, but again, what am I about? 1162 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 2: Justice? 1163 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: This is my ats, the goddess of truth and justice. 1164 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 3: This is unjustified. 1165 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 4: He was asked by her brother to raise money, when 1166 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 4: he got the money and found out that she didn't know. 1167 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 3: She was given the money. 1168 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 4: These types of turning this space into a gossip space 1169 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 4: is dangerous, Shannon. 1170 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 3: We're trying to make movements and change. 1171 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: You do realize that's how social media your work. You 1172 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 2: don't have to be qualified. 1173 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 4: But no, I'm not talking about I'm not talking about 1174 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 4: social media. This is Black Voices and. 1175 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,720 Speaker 3: Rio and the Root, et cetera. 1176 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 4: They were just running with this story because that's how 1177 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 4: journalism works now, clicks. So in their minds, it seems like, well, 1178 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 4: if we put this story out, we're gonna get the clicks, 1179 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 4: and then they were going to be follow ups, and 1180 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 4: we'll get clicks for that, and then there's gonna be 1181 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 4: follow up. So let's not tell the whole story. Now, 1182 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 4: let's string this along soap opera. People's lives. So I 1183 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 4: was justified in that. People mad at me because I said, 1184 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 4: you know, if you got Nikes and Jordan's, if you 1185 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 4: got money for Nikes and Jordans, you're gonna passport. You're 1186 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 4: losing a man that seeals a member of the petty bourgeoisine. 1187 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 4: She is making fun of the disenfranchised passport black folks. 1188 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? Do you understand these people 1189 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 4: don't want us here. They don't want us here. We 1190 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 4: need to be able to get out of here. When 1191 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 4: you go all over this world, white people are everywhere. 1192 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 4: Did you know that they everywhere having a great time? 1193 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 3: And we be thinking that we are only allowed to 1194 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 3: be here. This world is for us. We are the 1195 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 3: bottom line. We are the creators. 1196 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 4: So why would we not make sure that we have 1197 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 4: access to everything instead of limiting ourselves to consumerism. We 1198 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 4: can do both, Yes, we can do both. And one 1199 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 4: thing I've had to learn is just like sometimes I 1200 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 4: just be talking right now. By the way, the reason 1201 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 4: I sent that text is because I was sitting in 1202 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 4: the Paris Charles Degall Airport and the Nigga I was 1203 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 4: seeing I had text him and said I got to Paris, 1204 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 4: I can't wait for you to get your passport and 1205 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 4: travel with me, And he has said, I don't need 1206 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 4: a passport. 1207 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 3: I travel in my mind. 1208 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: That's how body see. 1209 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 3: That's what made me say that tweet. But again no 1210 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 3: further context. 1211 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 4: But people do nitpick, and it sucks because you start 1212 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 4: to believe the lies that people tell you about yourself, 1213 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 4: and then you start to turn into the person that 1214 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 4: they are accusing you of being. They want you to 1215 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 4: be somebody who doesn't give a fun. They want you 1216 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 4: to be somebody who doesn't care if you hurt people. 1217 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 4: And I will say that most people don't get the 1218 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 4: opportunity to do a blanket apology, but since I have it, 1219 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 4: I'll take it. I apologize to anybody that I have 1220 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 4: unwillingly caused any level of discomfort. 1221 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 3: That's never my goal, never my goal. 1222 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 4: And anyone who's taking that apology and knowing that it's 1223 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 4: not for you, because it wasn't. 1224 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: For you, considering what's been the way you've been portrayed. 1225 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: And you said, Lisa said, well, your character. I believe 1226 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: that you were your character considering he wrote the character. 1227 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: Do you ever get afraid of being type cast? 1228 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 5: No? 1229 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 4: Because again I think everybody gets afraid of being type cast. 1230 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 4: I mean, especially like if you light skin, like there's 1231 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 4: in black spaces. Oftentimes it's like, Okay, you're gonna play 1232 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 4: like the boogie light skined girl. 1233 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 5: You know. 1234 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 4: I think that there's something to be said for like 1235 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 4: I get accused being colorists based on stuff like that, 1236 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 4: you know, like which I am one thousand percent not 1237 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 4: by any means. I think in the past there were 1238 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 4: things that were like misinterpreted that have It's not even 1239 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 4: that they've typecast me, like on camera. It's like I'm 1240 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 4: type cast in life right right, So like people like 1241 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 4: I remember on a breakfast club interview, they asked me, like, 1242 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 4: what are reasons people don't like you? This is always 1243 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 4: the conversation, what are reasons people don't like you? So 1244 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 4: I went down the list of reasons that people have 1245 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 4: told me that they don't like me, and one of 1246 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 4: the reasons was someone that I have been told several times, 1247 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 4: I don't like you because you're life skinned. 1248 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 3: And I said that, and that offended people because they 1249 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 3: thought that I was somehow. 1250 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 4: In saying that, saying that it was something as a 1251 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 4: like there was something positive, you know, And ultimately. 1252 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 3: There is no way in the. 1253 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 4: There is no way in the dissemination, the effect dissemination 1254 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 4: of white supremacy that we would not have dark skinned 1255 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 4: women who don't like you because you like skin, and 1256 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 4: like skin women who don't like you because you dark skin. 1257 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 4: They have been very effective at that division. Yeah, So 1258 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 4: I was just stating a fact, but not stating a. 1259 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 5: Like. 1260 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to legitimize it. It was just like, 1261 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 4: this is something that has been said to me, you know, 1262 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 4: and I am. And it took me also a little 1263 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 4: bit to understand that colorism only works one way. I 1264 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 4: don't know if bullying is the right word for what 1265 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 4: happens to like skin black folks who feel like they 1266 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 4: don't belong because that's the thing, Like I get told like, oh, 1267 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 4: you like skin, You're not really black, but like, I'm 1268 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 4: like skin because my great great great grandmother was raped 1269 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 4: by James Ooh in Virginia or in Maryland, i should say, 1270 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 4: who then subsequently had children every month after that for 1271 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 4: twelve months with other slaves that he owned, and he 1272 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 4: put his name on their birth certificates. 1273 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 3: And this means that I'm also possibly related to Robert E. 1274 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 5: Lee. 1275 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 4: I am light skinned because my great grandmother on my 1276 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 4: mother's side was raped by her boss when she was 1277 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 4: a maid in Greeta. So I just feel like we 1278 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 4: oversimplify in a way that feeds this white supremacist ideology 1279 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 4: and instead of looking to each other to say how 1280 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 4: do we starve it with love and loving each other? 1281 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 3: So you know, I am not colorists. 1282 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 4: There are many times where I have had to consciously 1283 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 4: remove myself from space is because these people don't know 1284 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 4: what they're talking about, and they're like, well, you're black, 1285 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 4: you know, like this, this designer in Russia wanted me 1286 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 4: to be the phase of. 1287 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Her Africa campaign. I said, ma'am, the only way I 1288 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 3: can do that is if. 1289 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 4: I am partnered an equal level with a dark skinned 1290 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 4: person from the continents. 1291 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, you're just doing too much. 1292 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Now we don't even see race. 1293 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Don't you just love that one? Okay? Currently you're on 1294 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 2: Kevin Hart's LOL network. No, you're done. 1295 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 3: That ended like two years ago. 1296 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Kevin. 1297 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: People's taking shots at keV. I know keV a little bit. 1298 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't, but I think he's I think he's great 1299 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,439 Speaker 1: at what he does. I know he's an extremely hard worker. 1300 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: He puts a lot of time into his craft. Uh, 1301 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: and he's built a platform that that tries to elevate people. 1302 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 4: Oh lord, I think that's his goal. But I don't 1303 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 4: know that his staff has the same fervor for that 1304 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 4: that he does. Okay, And I don't know that he's 1305 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 4: necessary I don't. I'm saying this literally, like I don't 1306 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 4: know if he's left, if he's necessarily empowered them to 1307 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 4: do that. 1308 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 3: I literally don't know. 1309 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 4: I know that he voiced his intentions to me, but 1310 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 4: they were unable to be carried out right. And I 1311 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 4: have no hard feelings keV. Ke looked out for me 1312 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 4: in a situation that was, you know, Live Nation tried 1313 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 4: to cancel my whole tour and I had to call 1314 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 4: people I know that you know got the juice, and 1315 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 4: keV answered the call. 1316 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 1317 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 3: And it was a time where I didn't have other jobs. 1318 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 4: So if I didn't do them shows, there was no 1319 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 4: money because my man made no money and he wasn't 1320 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 4: trying to make no money, so I was the only 1321 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 4: one making the money. And I remember sitting in my 1322 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 4: living rooms like staring off into space, and he came 1323 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 4: in because I was quiet, and if Amanda is quiet, 1324 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 4: we and the problem. And my man came my ex 1325 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 4: he came in and was like, was you good? And 1326 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 4: I was like no, because if I don't do these shows, 1327 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 4: we will not have money for the beals. And so 1328 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 4: I really appreciate keV because he didn't have to do that, 1329 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 4: and he did right. 1330 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,439 Speaker 2: Bring the funny. You spoke highly of that, Chrissy tig 1331 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 2: and Jeff fox Worthy of Keenan Thompson. 1332 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 3: I do have a radio show now, though, tell us 1333 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 3: about it. 1334 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 2: What do you get to talk? What do you what 1335 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: do you like about the radio show now? 1336 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Because you obviously you're very opinionated, you have I mean, 1337 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: you have a lot to say, and when you're on the. 1338 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: Radio, you get to take your time and go tell 1339 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 2: us about your radio show. 1340 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: People that are listening Amanda for the first time, what 1341 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 1: can they expect to listen, laugh and learn. 1342 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 4: They're gonna laugh and they gonna learn all day long. 1343 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,919 Speaker 4: I love my radio show Radio one Reach Media. They've 1344 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 4: just been such great partners. It really showed me what 1345 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 4: it's like to work in a place that sees you. 1346 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,280 Speaker 4: You know, that came correct from day one. I never 1347 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 4: I never have to convince them of anything. You know, 1348 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 4: they respect my wisdom about things, they expect my my 1349 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 4: awareness about things, so I don't have to, you. 1350 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:56,919 Speaker 3: Know, try to win over. 1351 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 4: And I always thought that my own show would be 1352 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 4: a TV show, but it's a radio show and it 1353 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 4: ends up being so much better because I have so 1354 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 4: much freedom and I get to speak to people where 1355 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 4: we're right now. We're syndicated in a number of scenes, 1356 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: including DC. We're on Magic in DC, We're on one 1357 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 4: O three in Philly, We're in Houston on the Box. 1358 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 4: You know, we're in major markets. And I just didn't 1359 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 4: realize that people really be listening to TV, I mean 1360 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 4: to radio. People really be listening to radio Shannon, and 1361 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 4: so it's just been really great to see how many 1362 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 4: people like I member. So we do a word of 1363 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 4: the Day where I teach a vocabulary word and this 1364 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 4: bus driver I went to Selma for the commemoration of 1365 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 4: Bloody Sunday, and this bus driver in Alabama, because we're 1366 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 4: on in muscle shows, she was like, I just want 1367 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 4: you to know that I play your radio show in 1368 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 4: the bus for my kids. And she was like, our 1369 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 4: favorite segment is the vocab segment. So I have my 1370 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 4: co host Supreme, and I just make it my business. 1371 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 4: I take it very seriously that a lot of people 1372 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 4: are only getting this news from me, So I just 1373 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 4: make it my business to be very fat based and 1374 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: then opinion right, you know, because I think we've gotten 1375 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 4: in a world where we can't really tell when is 1376 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 4: facts and when is opinion. Yeah, and that's dangerous. 1377 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Very Making progress with your money starts today. With the 1378 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: right checking account, this year can feel easier. 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You talked about your time on the reel 1398 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: and you talked about the bad. Did you have any 1399 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: good times on the reel? Was there anything that you 1400 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: liked about your time there? 1401 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 3: I like my team in my dressing room. 1402 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 4: Listen, your glam squad in those situations, be your family 1403 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 4: because you. 1404 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 3: There so early in the morning every day, you know. 1405 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 4: Let me just be clear though, like people like to 1406 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 4: say that I had issues with my co hosts on 1407 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 4: the reel, and I have never voiced that, and none 1408 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 4: of them have ever voiced that. And my issue with 1409 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 4: the reel was about the executive leadership of the reel 1410 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 4: and the fact that we couldn't talk about like they 1411 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 4: would say things like I remember Tamara wanted to talk 1412 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 4: about wine and they were like, well, black people don't 1413 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 4: drink wine, so we're not gonna talking about. 1414 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 3: Whe Wow, just like, how's that a thing? 1415 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 4: But I don't want to say that I didn't have 1416 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 4: a good time at the Real. It's just that I 1417 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,719 Speaker 4: walked into it and I got blindsided. That's really what happened, Shannon. 1418 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 4: I got blindsided. I thought that this was going to 1419 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,839 Speaker 4: be a space where I could like really be myself 1420 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 4: because when I was guest host, they were so embracing, 1421 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 4: and it just ended up not being that. But you 1422 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 4: know what really happened at the Real I taught I 1423 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 4: reminded those women of their voices. That's what they always 1424 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 4: tell me, because they had gotten so used to the 1425 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 4: books that they had just laid down their swords. And 1426 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 4: so I get there and they would be happening and 1427 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, hell na right, and they'd be like, well, 1428 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 4: we didn't even know we could say. 1429 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 5: No. 1430 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 1: I'm reading and I read this, and I'm like, when 1431 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I was doing for you about the Black Publications, know 1432 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: that that that. 1433 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: That spoke out against you. 1434 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: I mean, because you speak so pro black, and just 1435 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 1: because you're pro black doesn't mean you're anti this. That 1436 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: means you just I want my people to do really well, 1437 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 1: and I want my people to understand and be informed 1438 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 1: and understand the power that they have. 1439 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 2: It had to have hurt to have these black publications. 1440 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 3: I had a nervous breakdown. 1441 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Talk to me. 1442 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 4: It's just the willingness of folks to sell their souls 1443 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 4: for so little, And I feel like that's what you 1444 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 4: have to do to put your gift of being a 1445 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 4: writer to work in such a nefarious way. 1446 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 3: I ain't in none of these people. I ain't done 1447 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 3: none of these people. 1448 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 4: I like to think that they were paid by a 1449 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 4: pack because if you didn't get a check for this 1450 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 4: and you just did this just to do it, I'm 1451 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 4: just like, damn that that's unfortunate for you. 1452 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 3: But that's a place that I've arrived at initially. 1453 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 6: It just. 1454 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,719 Speaker 4: It's crazy to be excoriated in the public in general 1455 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 4: by like, you know, just people, but like. 1456 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,639 Speaker 1: Publication where they're supposed to have people that are journalists 1457 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: that have integrity, right. 1458 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's crazy. 1459 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,719 Speaker 4: Like the last time this happened was with this MYNN 1460 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 4: role situation years ago, where I was put in a 1461 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 4: very stup situation. I had to make a judgment call, 1462 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 4: and people have based my entire character off of this judgment. 1463 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 4: Call people who have never been in this situation. But 1464 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 4: I did the best that I could with that situation, 1465 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,640 Speaker 4: and I have been affirmed in that choice. But I 1466 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 4: think that what people fail to understand is that you 1467 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 4: be in scenarios where you got to make a judgment. 1468 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 2: Call instantaneous, you don't have you. 1469 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,600 Speaker 3: And you just doing the best that you got with 1470 01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 3: something that doesn't have a blueprint. 1471 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Right. 1472 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 3: And so now there's this whole narrative a man that 1473 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 3: steels hates black men, that it has no literally no water. 1474 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 3: If I hate black men, I want to refund. 1475 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 4: I want to. 1476 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 3: Refund sing you know how many brothers I have lifted up. 1477 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:16,679 Speaker 3: I want to refund. 1478 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 4: I don't pay probation fees because the niggas could rap, 1479 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 4: and I want them to be able to live in 1480 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,240 Speaker 4: their talent and their truth. I don't talk to a 1481 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 4: damn poh to vouch body, James, and you owe me money. 1482 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:35,639 Speaker 4: But like, there's just something very wrong about these places. 1483 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 4: Feeling compelled to just speak about somebody with no facts 1484 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 4: at least quote somebody I've worked with. 1485 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 3: If you're gonna say I'm difficult to work with. 1486 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it's burning bridges in Hollywood maybe ain't no 1487 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 4: bridges in Hollywood. 1488 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 3: This Hollywood is a shark infested pool. 1489 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 4: The only bridge I built was to get me out 1490 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 4: of it so I would stop getting did so please 1491 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 4: so telling me about burning bridges? And then there's there 1492 01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 4: in there talking about Oh, she's Hubris. Do y'all even 1493 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 4: know what Hubris means. Hubris is a mythological character from 1494 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 4: Greek mythology who was told by the gods, don't look 1495 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 4: in that pool, don't look in that pool. 1496 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 3: And Hubris said, Man, I'm gonna look in the pool. 1497 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 3: He defied the gods. 1498 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 4: He looked in the pool, and he saw his face, 1499 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 4: and he was so enamored by his face that he 1500 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 4: drowned in the pool. So Hubris is not someone who 1501 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,720 Speaker 4: is necessarily enamored by themselves. Hubris is the story of 1502 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 4: a person who defied God. Now you tell me in 1503 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 4: this whole interview, where have I showed you that I'm 1504 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 4: somebody who is defying God. I live by God, I 1505 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,760 Speaker 4: am spoken to by God. I speak the word. So 1506 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 4: don't tell me about these words. So journalists using these 1507 01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 4: words so gratuitously is dangerous. It's so dangerous, And I 1508 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 4: am obsessed with words I'm obsessed with word, Shannon. I 1509 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 4: love them so much, and I know that there's people 1510 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 4: who have lived by the word. If you are somebody 1511 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 4: of a religion, you live by the word, whether it's 1512 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,719 Speaker 4: the word of our law or the word of the Bible. 1513 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 4: You know, if you're somebody who's a lawyer, you understand 1514 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 4: that this Constitution and the words that are not in 1515 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 4: it are what continue to keep us oppressed. 1516 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 3: Words matter. 1517 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 4: So to have all these people using these words that 1518 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,560 Speaker 4: I love so much against me, damn near killed me. 1519 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 4: Thank goodness, I'm on Lexapro because had I not been 1520 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 4: on this antidepressant, I feel like I would have gone 1521 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 4: down a much darker hole. But I have a great 1522 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 4: psychiatrist and I have even better friends. So when you 1523 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 4: talk about people protecting you, they be I am protected. 1524 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 4: I am so loved, And that's why it's so wild 1525 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,799 Speaker 4: to see people saying I'm not likable. 1526 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 3: You are right, I'm not likable. I am lovable. 1527 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 4: I'm so loved, And it's like I'm in a place 1528 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 4: right now where, for the first time in my life, 1529 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 4: I feel like the love for myself and the love 1530 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 4: people have for me are at the same level and 1531 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 4: I've never experienced that before, and it took a long 1532 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 4: time for me to learn that I even had the 1533 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 4: right to love myself. You know, people say these things like, oh, 1534 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 4: don't be full of yourself. You better be full of yourself. 1535 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 4: You better be full of yourself, because then what are 1536 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 4: you full of? You don't want to be hollow, and 1537 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 4: you also don't want to be full of everybody else's 1538 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 4: validation of you, because who are they? 1539 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,759 Speaker 3: And baby, they will. 1540 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 4: Run away when shit go low and they gone, You're empty. 1541 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 4: You better be full of yourself. And I have had 1542 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 4: to learn as somebody who had a nervous breakd out 1543 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 4: and was brought to the bottom and realize that all 1544 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 4: of my confidence was built on other people's thoughts of 1545 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 4: me everything, And I had to build myself back up. 1546 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 4: And luckily I had a therapist who taught me to 1547 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 4: do that. And I had to build myself back up. 1548 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 4: And so I tell everybody now, like, no, please be 1549 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,679 Speaker 4: full of yourself and love yourself. And you know, particularly women, 1550 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 4: we are not told that we are allowed to name 1551 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 4: ourselve else. I am a genius, I'm a gifted performer, 1552 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 4: I am a gifted person. I am a creative genius. 1553 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 4: I'm generous, i am giving, I am kind, I'm funny, 1554 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm delightful. Like these are not things that I need 1555 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 4: to wait for somebody to say about me. I know 1556 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,639 Speaker 4: these things about myself. Aren't we supposed to be God's children? 1557 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1558 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,680 Speaker 4: And that's not based in religion. That's just based in understanding. 1559 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 4: That's how I live as a spiritual person. I believe 1560 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 4: I am a child that was made of something other. 1561 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what we were made of, but I 1562 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 4: know that I feel like I was made of something supernatural, 1563 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 4: and I have a responsibility in that to live at 1564 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 4: my best. And people don't want to let you grow. 1565 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 4: People don't want to let you evolve. People don't want 1566 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 4: to let you find better ways to exist. People are 1567 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 4: talking to me about from two thousand and five, some 1568 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 4: interaction they had with me for thirty seconds in two 1569 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 4: thousand and five. 1570 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 3: Now you tell me, are you judging people based on 1571 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,160 Speaker 3: a thirty second interaction? 1572 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 4: No, because why you might say we had a bad 1573 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 4: thirty second interaction, Right, that's it. 1574 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm probably don't never see that person again, so I 1575 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 2: don't have the. 1576 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,600 Speaker 4: Same reaction the same week that people are telling in 1577 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 4: these articles. I mean, the Seals is so terrible. She 1578 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 4: you know, she has boundaries, et cetera. The same week 1579 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 4: they talk about Anthony Mackie. Why let that man have 1580 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 4: his boundaries. I'm like, I can't call it. I can't 1581 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 4: call it, and I've decided to stop trying to call it. 1582 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 4: I put the phone down. 1583 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 2: The Queen came to your defense, though, yes. 1584 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 4: She did, because I'm loved by the people I love 1585 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 4: and that is the biggest honor. Queen Latifa Dana Olwens, Okay, 1586 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 4: can you. 1587 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Help me understand this? 1588 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't ready for that. 1589 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes, and it's happened before, people in our community forget 1590 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,880 Speaker 1: that they're black and they try to pease a group 1591 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: of people that's probably never going to embrace them. And 1592 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: once they realize that, guess who's the first group to 1593 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: take him back? 1594 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 3: We don't. 1595 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 6: I don't know her, you dog, I ain't say nobody 1596 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,559 Speaker 6: name Amanda. You don't even know who I'm talking about? 1597 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 6: How you know who I'm talking about? But but but you, 1598 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 6: But we've listened, We've seen this happen before. Rest his soul. 1599 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 2: O J. Simpson, you know he had the famous quote, 1600 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:21,639 Speaker 2: I'm oj i ain't black. 1601 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Even Michael Jackson went through what he went through, rest 1602 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: his soul right, Even Kanye had to be reminded. And 1603 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:36,520 Speaker 1: now miss Owens, who's oh, I don't want no black polus. 1604 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 2: I don't want this, I don't want that. 1605 01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: And now we can't keep off our black media stations 1606 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: when before she gave us her butt to kiss. Now, 1607 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 1: if I'm lying about figuring out the term people, y'all 1608 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 1: correct me. But y'all know I'm telling the truth. Now 1609 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about somebody that's always uplifted this community. And 1610 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 1: I was one of the first guys that had had 1611 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 1: a viral moment with kat Williams. And they couldn't wait 1612 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: excuse they couldn't wait to attack me. But Candace has 1613 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,800 Speaker 1: given you all her bloody kids for two decades. 1614 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 2: In the moment, why they do it? They can't fire me, 1615 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 2: They can't fire me the hell you say? Now, look 1616 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 2: at it. 1617 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 3: It's not her fault. 1618 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 2: Who foult is it? Ah? No, no, no, no, no, no, 1619 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 2: that's not let's not take that. 1620 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 3: Let her back in, huh the spaces that let her 1621 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 3: back in? 1622 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, okay, But that's how we are. We'll see, 1623 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: we're very forgiving people. 1624 01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 3: It taught us to be that we do. 1625 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 4: Who taught us what? Who taught us that version of forgiveness? 1626 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 4: Do I need to do the lesson? 1627 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 3: No? 1628 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 2: Because I know them. 1629 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,720 Speaker 4: Slave owners taught us that version of forgiveness. They gave 1630 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 4: us a bible called the slave Bible. And this bible 1631 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,320 Speaker 4: had parts of it taken out. It had the parts 1632 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 4: of uprisings taken out. It taught about forgiveness because they 1633 01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 4: needed to make. 1634 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 1: It okay in their mind no matter how bad I 1635 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: treat you, at some point in time, I need you 1636 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: to forgive me for the wrongs I've done against you. 1637 01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 4: Because they had convinced themselves that it was still okay 1638 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 4: to keep people enslaved whose souls were saved. Yeah, even 1639 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,879 Speaker 4: though they knew that that was counterproductive to the teachings 1640 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,480 Speaker 4: that they had learned. So you know, we are oftentimes 1641 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,719 Speaker 4: forgiving to our own detriment. 1642 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 2: We are. 1643 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,680 Speaker 3: And listen, here's the thing. You know, what the thing 1644 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 3: about forgiveness is is that you should absolutely forgive people 1645 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,200 Speaker 3: who ask for it, right right, who ask for it. 1646 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 2: And I'm okay with that. I'm okay to forgive. I 1647 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:39,559 Speaker 2: don't forget. 1648 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 3: I just move on. 1649 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 4: But redemption requires action. There are resort of justice practices 1650 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 4: that have to be implemented in order for atonement to 1651 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 4: truly take place. And when that's not the course of action, 1652 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 4: it looks like something else. 1653 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, it looks like it looks yucky, It looks 1654 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 7: like capitalism, it looks like it looks like click baite, 1655 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 7: it looks like naivete, It looks. 1656 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 3: Dumb, and it looks insulting to anybody who has a mind. 1657 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 4: And ultimately, again I will bring it back to what 1658 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 4: makes a black space a black space at this point, 1659 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 4: because when I create black spaces Shannon Sharp like smart, 1660 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 4: funny and black, like my podcast Small Doses, my radio show, 1661 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,679 Speaker 4: The Amanda Seel Show, we literally do black heart news. 1662 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,600 Speaker 4: When I create black spaces, the word black in that 1663 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 4: context is always about community. 1664 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 3: You said it earlier. 1665 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 4: So my problem that you've already pointed out is that 1666 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, when they make a black space, it's 1667 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 4: also the same thing. But maybe I mean, but maybe 1668 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 4: I got I got kicked out a black space, you know, 1669 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 4: I got. I literally got kicked out of a black 1670 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 4: space by a black woman who sick Black people on me, 1671 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 4: black men on me to remove me. So at this 1672 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,840 Speaker 4: point I understand that we can't just look at black 1673 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,799 Speaker 4: people and say, is this skin folk or kinfolk? 1674 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 3: We got to look at black spaces. Is this skin folk? 1675 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 4: Kim Flo and all of these black media spaces that 1676 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 4: took her back, in all these black media spaces that 1677 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 4: have just excoriated me for weeks, I look at them 1678 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,640 Speaker 4: and say, you are simply black by name, because you 1679 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 4: are white by commerce. 1680 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 2: Wow. When I saw people taking shots to Angel Reese 1681 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 2: for crying to come. 1682 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 3: For the longest time, you know, she is a young person. 1683 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 3: Do you know how disgusting that is? 1684 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,439 Speaker 4: And that foreignball nigga who loves to make himself look 1685 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 4: like he's the white people's savior. 1686 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,880 Speaker 2: Who's it? 1687 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 4: Man? You will icho a lorn Oh lord, come talk 1688 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 4: to me, white people. I'm the black guy that that's nice. 1689 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 3: Cut it out. It's ridiculous, man, I know these people. 1690 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna have to help. 1691 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, you're not saying it, I am. You're not saying it, 1692 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 4: and you don't. You don't, and I will let you 1693 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 4: off the hook. 1694 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 3: You don't need to respond, don't feel like you need 1695 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 3: to defend them, but baby. 1696 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 4: You can. 1697 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 2: I let you have your space. This is your safe 1698 01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 2: space to say your peace. 1699 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 3: Can I have a hug? 1700 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't give me no hug, or I try 1701 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 2: to get it. I tried to get a DA I 1702 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 2: have to get to a hug. 1703 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: And now I'm there. You have a hug. 1704 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Yes, you can have a hug. Thank you chead. 1705 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Dang that was that was that was quick? I feel 1706 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 1: I feel I feel good good, I feel good. You 1707 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 1: hosted the b ET Award in twenty twenty. 1708 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 2: In my house and ain't been back. 1709 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 3: She ain't let me tell you. Can nobody say you 1710 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 3: don't put it together. That's why you were so successful 1711 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 3: on the seat. 1712 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody told you why you ain't been You can't 1713 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 2: hold no more. 1714 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 3: You can The internet told me that I haven't been 1715 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 3: back because I'm not like a baby. I hosted the 1716 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 3: awards in my house. Yes I'm not saying that lightly. 1717 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:08,519 Speaker 4: COVID what was happening and the stylists their assistant tested positive. 1718 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,719 Speaker 4: Ends up being a false positive, but it tests positive. 1719 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 4: And two days before I had to host the be 1720 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,680 Speaker 4: TA Words at my house. Wow, I find this out now. 1721 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,760 Speaker 4: At the time, somebody I had been seeing on and off. 1722 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 4: We were gonna try to see if we get along again. 1723 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 2: So you will let him come. He will stay for 1724 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 2: it to stand a period of time because cold. 1725 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 4: So he was already he was coming to the house, okay, 1726 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 4: And we're literally sitting next to each other when I 1727 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 4: get this call from Jesse Collins. Shout out to Jesse 1728 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 4: Collins and Dion Harmon. These are two people that are 1729 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 4: two of the most beautiful human beings on the earth. 1730 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 4: And Jesse Collins helped break the code for me about me. 1731 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 4: Jesse Collins, without calling me autistic, knew I was before 1732 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 4: I knew I was. And he literally told the staff 1733 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 4: this is how Amanda works. She needs information. That's what 1734 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 4: she needs of it. She just needs the information. And 1735 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720 Speaker 4: when she has the information, she's fine. So let's just 1736 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 4: give her that. It doesn't take anything away from us. 1737 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 4: But some people feel like giving information is like some 1738 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 4: power struggle type shit. But he tells me this, Shannon, 1739 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 4: So this man body James is at my house and 1740 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 4: he's like, I don't do physical labor. I'm like, lord child, 1741 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 4: So I get him a check. I get him a 1742 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 4: check to do the show, to put up, to put 1743 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 4: this thing together. One thing I'll never take from that 1744 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 4: man is he put that he did hook up them wires? 1745 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 3: Okay, but now I can't have a. 1746 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 4: Stylist, a hairstylist, or a makeup artist here, so I 1747 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,760 Speaker 4: end up having to do my own makeup with my 1748 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 4: makeup artists on my phone, my hair with my hairstylist 1749 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 4: on like they're all on FaceTime telling me what to do. 1750 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 4: I did thirteen costume changes in my house while this 1751 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 4: man sat in my backyard on FaceTime telling people, Yeah, 1752 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 4: I saved the bat Awards and I got him a 1753 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 4: credit because that's the type of nigga I am. I 1754 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 4: got him a credit and I got him his checked. 1755 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 4: Now if he I'm not even let me stop. But 1756 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 4: but you see how I'm protecting people that don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1757 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 4: I was about to do that because he's the type. 1758 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,280 Speaker 3: Of person that would take things to another level. He 1759 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 3: tried to extore me once. 1760 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,000 Speaker 2: You've been having a rough goal with. 1761 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 4: Me, I know, because I didn't have a father that 1762 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 4: really taught me what to do, and because I present 1763 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 4: to people in a way that they deem masculine, but 1764 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 4: it's really just passion, And if they really were smart, 1765 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 4: they would understand that the passion that I speak with 1766 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 4: is the passion that I with, So I don't understand 1767 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,040 Speaker 4: why they can't do that math. 1768 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 2: Yes, sports, I was reading that. I read that. I 1769 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,400 Speaker 2: read that, you know about a nickel defense. Isn't football? 1770 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 3: I don't even remember anymore. Don't put me on the spot, 1771 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 3: But I really you. 1772 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 2: Love sports, huh? Or you love football or you loved me. 1773 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 6: No. 1774 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate sports the sports that I I mean, like 1775 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 4: I It wouldn't be fair to say I love football 1776 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 4: because it's not even close to my love for gymnastics. 1777 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 4: You know, I respect football, I respect basketball. I mean, 1778 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm I got a j you know. I used to 1779 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 4: have handles in my younger days. Now I have bad problems. 1780 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,719 Speaker 1: But well, that what you what you were saying about earlier, 1781 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 1: that that's the kind of same thing that you were 1782 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: able to do with back. 1783 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,680 Speaker 2: Probably you ain't gonna be to do that no more. Man, 1784 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 2: So I think you have to sit there one now. 1785 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 3: I think it's all about creativity. 1786 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I brought that up. 1787 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 4: You're talking to a comic, like whatever you say, I 1788 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 4: got something in the chamber. You know, that's the other part. 1789 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,040 Speaker 4: I'm a really good mother comic. Did you know that 1790 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 4: I did know that. 1791 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,680 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Okay, well, 1792 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 3: can I have my special? You know I have my special? 1793 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 3: I'll be knowing. But this year is when I really realized, like, nigga, 1794 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 3: you nice with this. I've been going on stage and 1795 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 3: I don't even prepare no more. 1796 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 4: I just go to see right, baby, I'm killing you 1797 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 4: like that though, I'm really well, how about this here. 1798 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: Now? 1799 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 3: Not to say not to say I haven't had my l's. 1800 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a particular room in Los Angeles that 1801 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 4: I did take an L but I have a different 1802 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 4: style of comedy than that room was expected. 1803 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 2: Right dating in twenty twenty four, I am single. 1804 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,839 Speaker 3: You ain't trying you aint who's hollering at me? Shannon? 1805 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 3: Who's who is hollering at me? 1806 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,400 Speaker 2: Who let me ask you this? How about this here 1807 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 2: at this point? 1808 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 1: What type of man? What type of man would interest Amanda? 1809 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Does he have to be scholarly? 1810 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 1811 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: Funny? I mean women like funny? So but that needs 1812 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:44,719 Speaker 2: to be one women like funny. 1813 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 4: He has to have character, character, And when I say character, 1814 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,439 Speaker 4: I mean he has to have a very strong value system. Okay, 1815 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 4: he has to care about humanity, Okay, he has to 1816 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 4: like animals. 1817 01:27:54,640 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 3: Okay, he has to like music. Okay, he has to 1818 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 3: be curious. He doesn't have to be scholarly, but he 1819 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 3: has to be curious. 1820 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 4: And and the thing about curiosity is it's not just 1821 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 4: about like education, but you have to be able to 1822 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 4: be curious about somebody else's feelings, you know. Like that's 1823 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 4: the thing I feel like I run into with a 1824 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,840 Speaker 4: lot of men like they not curious about like if 1825 01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,759 Speaker 4: I say I'm sad or if I'm say I'm annoyed, 1826 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 4: like they go into defense. 1827 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 3: But really the next question should be why why? And 1828 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,240 Speaker 3: then there's a conversation. 1829 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 4: And I learned in my last relationship, I really really 1830 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 4: worked on my toxic traits, you know, because we're all 1831 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 4: working to undo the things that shaped us that we 1832 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 4: had no control over. 1833 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:41,519 Speaker 3: I was, yeah, we all are anymore. You definitely have 1834 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,160 Speaker 3: toxic trading. 1835 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa? Man? Is that about me? Okay? Thank you? 1836 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,000 Speaker 3: This man said I need to every morning. I'm woa 1837 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 3: whoa whoa who say that to Sinko. You didn't say 1838 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 3: that to Olrtinco. You didn't say that to Thinko. I said, 1839 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've got to shifted. 1840 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 4: It what it is because the way you framed it, 1841 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say that, I'm gonna just say I'm gonna. 1842 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 3: Just say, Shane shape. The way you had said it 1843 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,439 Speaker 3: was like, whether she likes it or not, this. 1844 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 4: Is my expectation and sometime to pussy ain't prime until 1845 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 4: prime time, and it's just like, damn, is that what 1846 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,759 Speaker 4: the expectation is every morning? 1847 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes my pockets ain't prime, but she expect that. 1848 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:30,240 Speaker 3: Burke, I can't speak to that. Sounds like an escort process. 1849 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, sometimes that's gotta situation. 1850 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 2: How about this, so you mean to till ain't no manner? 1851 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 2: I know they sliding in your DM. 1852 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 3: They're not. 1853 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Ain't no man in your dem No have a bit. 1854 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,760 Speaker 4: There was one person in my DMS, but they're not 1855 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 4: really like into me. They're just like talking about professional 1856 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:47,839 Speaker 4: stuff whatever. 1857 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:49,720 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody sliding the d IM talking. 1858 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if he has a girl, I'll ask you. 1859 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 2: They sliding your deal. 1860 01:29:54,000 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 4: Camera lord, nothing outside of my d's because they're like, 1861 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,519 Speaker 4: she's too intense, right, And that's the thing. I feel 1862 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,000 Speaker 4: like a lot of men holler at me because they 1863 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 4: want to tame me like they like it's like a 1864 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 4: game for them, and the like I had a dude 1865 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,640 Speaker 4: I was talking to who was like, yeah, you know, 1866 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 4: I like you because you're a challenge, don't. 1867 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 3: I don't want to do none of that. I don't 1868 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:22,280 Speaker 3: want discourse. I want intercourse, like please, I want to 1869 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 3: be home. 1870 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,080 Speaker 4: On the couch, hug the boot up. That's really what 1871 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to fight. People be like a man 1872 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,240 Speaker 4: that seals in her tone. I'm talking to a phone. Baby, 1873 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 4: I'm talking to a phone. 1874 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to a phone. 1875 01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,360 Speaker 3: And if I say these idiots and you take offense 1876 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 3: to that, well that's your fault. 1877 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, correct men if I'm wrong with a lot 1878 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,040 Speaker 1: of players. Okay, you don't want kids, but you had 1879 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 1: your eggs rolled and correct? 1880 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone maybe down the road. You mean the 1881 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 2: right guy, me, the right guy. 1882 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 3: No, I don't I don't. 1883 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,919 Speaker 2: Want right hold on, hold on, you got to be willing. 1884 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 3: To compromise I with my uterus. 1885 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,839 Speaker 2: Okay, you can have a what they called sarrogate. 1886 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to have kids, babe. 1887 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 2: Man say babe, you know, baby, who gonna take he 1888 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,960 Speaker 2: gonna say, babe, who gonn take care of us when 1889 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 2: we get old? 1890 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 3: Well, that's a really scary Uh. Have you seen people 1891 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 3: in these nursing homes. My mama worked in a nursing home. 1892 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:18,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what the kids are. 1893 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,639 Speaker 3: They not the kids is visiting them in the nursing home. 1894 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 2: Nah, I'm staying my kids better put me up in 1895 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 2: the crib exactly I bought them for. 1896 01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 3: That's not the case. You know what you're better off having, 1897 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 3: You're better off, you. 1898 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 4: Know, listen, if you if you're getting if you're having 1899 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 4: kids so they can take care of you. I think 1900 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 4: that's unfair. 1901 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you I don't think you know. 1902 01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,559 Speaker 2: But that's that's the. 1903 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 4: Thought process for a lot of people, right, Like, and 1904 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,080 Speaker 4: I think it's unfair because it gives them a job. 1905 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 3: I have beautiful friends and I and I and I. 1906 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,640 Speaker 4: Don't consider age to be the only reason for be Like, 1907 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,680 Speaker 4: I have friends that are in their thirties, right, that 1908 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 4: are in their twenties, Like, it's really about where your 1909 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,360 Speaker 4: heart is at, right, And. 1910 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,960 Speaker 3: I will be fine. I will be fine. 1911 01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,519 Speaker 4: I will be taking care of and I will be 1912 01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 4: supported because I support people, and you get what you give. 1913 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:08,719 Speaker 4: Unless it's black media, you would I froze the eggs 1914 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,679 Speaker 4: because people force you. People really be on your head, 1915 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 4: like just in case, j I see just in case, 1916 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,600 Speaker 4: Just in case, yeah, j I s. 1917 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 3: But let me tell you that. 1918 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,080 Speaker 4: Egg freezing process is a motherfucker. You're getting that shit 1919 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,639 Speaker 4: rammed up with you every day, and they looking around. 1920 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 4: If there was sixteen yesterday, now there's only ten, and 1921 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,040 Speaker 4: you're like, God damn eggs, God damn listen. 1922 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,960 Speaker 3: To my small doses episode side effects of IVY. 1923 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean, hens are gonna want to say, lay so 1924 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 2: many eggs? 1925 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 6: I mean how many things you say you're gonna get 1926 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 6: that you'll ever go to me ahead again? 1927 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,800 Speaker 2: You know you get thirty eggs for a day for 1928 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 2: two months, sir. 1929 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, To be honest, I know the things 1930 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 4: I know, and I know the things I don't know, 1931 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 4: and I really didn't. 1932 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 1: You didn't know at the time that it was I 1933 01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 1: just did you. Did somebody tell you it's gonna be painful? 1934 01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what's not painful? 1935 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,519 Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's just different. 1936 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's just so invasive. Yeah, it's so invasive. 1937 01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 3: It's so invasive. 1938 01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 4: Like I like today my podcast episode about the sexual 1939 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,120 Speaker 4: assault I experience comes out today on small doses, and 1940 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,440 Speaker 4: it's like it's a similar type of like it's invasive, 1941 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,280 Speaker 4: feel invaded, right, and you're like, this is very medical, 1942 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,759 Speaker 4: but it still feels yucky. 1943 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Is there anything you like to promote your podcast, your book? 1944 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,160 Speaker 1: You gotta movie, You're right in a movie. 1945 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 3: I'm on tour. I'm on tour, the Unlikable Tour. 1946 01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 4: Yes, come out see me. I'll be telling jokes. I 1947 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 4: feel like my shows at this point are like Ted 1948 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,040 Speaker 4: Talks that you laugh at. But I'm hitting the road. 1949 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm very excited to be back on stage. I was 1950 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,599 Speaker 4: blacklisted all last year. We'll do that in part two. 1951 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 4: And you know, it's just it's great to get out 1952 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:47,920 Speaker 4: in the world after you be on this internet and 1953 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,960 Speaker 4: they beat you up and you go in the world 1954 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 4: and folks is like, oh man, we appreciate you, we 1955 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 4: love you, and just making people laugh is such a superpower. 1956 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 4: So come on out to the A Likable Tour. Go 1957 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,160 Speaker 4: to a manasales dot com to get your tickets. You 1958 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 4: can also listen to my radio show, The Amanda Seals Show, 1959 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 4: every day you can go to wherever you get your 1960 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 4: podcasts and check that out if you're not in a 1961 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 4: city that we're on. And Small Doses is my podcast 1962 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:13,840 Speaker 4: that we've been doing for six years. Will you do 1963 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:15,519 Speaker 4: will you do an episode of Small Doses? 1964 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? You have to get my people. Yeah, I'm sure 1965 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:18,080 Speaker 2: I could do. 1966 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 3: That for you your people? 1967 01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:20,599 Speaker 2: Yea. 1968 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Do you have to get approval? 1969 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,519 Speaker 1: I I don't have to get approval, but I have 1970 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 1: a busy schedule. I'm shooting like eight ten times a week. 1971 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,680 Speaker 3: So he said, I'm a busy man. I'm a busy man. 1972 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 4: I will commit by heart, but not by date. I'll 1973 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 4: take that as a yes, we got time because I'm 1974 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,720 Speaker 4: not going to die till I'm mady. But I'm in 1975 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,479 Speaker 4: the process of writing my next book on Simon and Schuster, 1976 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 4: so very excited about that. But my previous book, Small Doses, 1977 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 4: is also available wherever you get your books and audio 1978 01:34:52,400 --> 01:35:00,040 Speaker 4: books and otherwise. You know, I appreciate this platform. The 1979 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,280 Speaker 4: space you've created here is very unique and necessary. 1980 01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1981 01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 4: You know you had asked me earlier, like what has 1982 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 4: come out of these last four weeks? And let me 1983 01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 4: tell you something, Shannon. I am a pure soul. I've 1984 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,560 Speaker 4: always been a pure soul. I always moved from pure intentions, 1985 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,439 Speaker 4: and I've reached a point where I'm just no longer 1986 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 4: going to argue what people think with. 1987 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,320 Speaker 2: What I know. Amanda, see us, ladies, gentlemen. 1988 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:39,679 Speaker 5: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, hustle price. 1989 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 5: I want to slice all my life, grinding all my life. Yeah, 1990 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,400 Speaker 5: all my life, grinding all. 1991 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,679 Speaker 3: My life, sacrifics, hustle the price. I want to slice 1992 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,679 Speaker 3: all my life, grinding all my life,