Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and Key Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1: California's Central Valley is without question one of the most
Speaker 1: vital agricultural regions in America, producing seventeen billion dollars worth
Speaker 1: of crops, twenty five percent of the nation's food supply.
Speaker 1: And to help grow and harvest those crops, many farmers
Speaker 1: here rely on undocumented workers. The Department of Agriculture estimates
Speaker 1: that about half of the hired crop workers do not
Speaker 1: have legal status. That is estimated to be more than
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty thousand workers in the Central Valley alone.
Speaker 3: Thousand workers in the Central Valley alone, that if you
Speaker 3: followed what recent poling says, sixty percent of America wants
Speaker 3: would all be booted out of the country. And that
Speaker 3: would be obviously, if you did that all at once,
Speaker 3: would be quite the wrecking of the whole agricultural system.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, though, because you
Speaker 3: got to have a system of some sort for having workers,
Speaker 3: and that's the job of Congress to come up with and.
Speaker 2: Be implied and follow through.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to or not, but
Speaker 3: Joe and I have been talking about illegal immigration in
Speaker 3: farm workers for jeez, twenty five years or whatever being
Speaker 3: on the air, and this very part of the a
Speaker 3: California in the country that they're talking about on ABC
Speaker 3: this week, And we used to talk about it all
Speaker 3: the time when we were only on in the Sacramento area.
Speaker 3: People wuld always talk, do you want tomatoes to be
Speaker 3: five dollars? Well, then you know I was going to
Speaker 3: pick the lettuce. Yeah, exactly. It was always the conversation.
Speaker 2: And our answer was always somebody or nobody or a machine.
Speaker 3: Well, let's hear from a couple of farmers in the
Speaker 3: Central Valley and their theories on why you need to
Speaker 3: have illegals picking.
Speaker 2: Here's more from ABC this week.
Speaker 4: We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we
Speaker 4: had a labor shortage and there were times where we
Speaker 4: actually lost some crop.
Speaker 1: I think people will look and say, but wait a minute,
Speaker 1: they're Americans who are unemployed.
Speaker 2: Why can't you just hire them?
Speaker 4: They don't want to come out here and work in
Speaker 4: this extreme conditions one hundred plus degree temperatures, dust, hard work.
Speaker 2: What if you paid them more, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: You know, we pay some of the highest wages for
Speaker 4: farm workers in the nation right here in California, and
Speaker 4: they won't come out.
Speaker 3: And just so before we have that conversation, here's a
Speaker 3: different farmer, same question, same topic there.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you pay them.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you pay twenty six dollars an hour,
Speaker 5: it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: They're not going to get up at four or five
Speaker 3: in the morning, drive to the field and pick fruit.
Speaker 3: So and the question was, why, uh, why don't you
Speaker 3: just hire Americans? They won't do it. I don't care
Speaker 3: what you pay them. They're not going to get up
Speaker 3: that time of day and come out and do that job.
Speaker 3: So I don't understand why that isn't a hold on pause,
Speaker 3: let's have a conversation about that sort of revelation on
Speaker 3: ABC this week. They just move on to and they
Speaker 3: see Americans won't do this work, so it makes sense
Speaker 3: to have illegal brown people do it. What what how
Speaker 3: do you craft a society like that? How about why
Speaker 3: would people who are unemployed or underemployed take the option
Speaker 3: of not doing a job even if it paid really well, right, right?
Speaker 3: How could they do that? How does that work? How
Speaker 3: does that find? How are they paying the rent?
Speaker 6: How are they eat?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you went to family counseling and
Speaker 2: you said, my children refused to do their chores and
Speaker 2: the counselor said, well, let's talk about how you can
Speaker 2: hire someone to do your children's right. No, that's not
Speaker 2: the right question, right, Yeah, Oh that's funny.
Speaker 3: But we've been talking about this very topic for decades now.
Speaker 3: How have we just accepted that people born in this
Speaker 3: country shouldn't have to do work that's not I don't know,
Speaker 3: glamorous or kind of hard, or it's outside or whatever.
Speaker 3: The reason is people don't want to do it. I
Speaker 3: did that kind of work when I was in high school.
Speaker 2: Lots of us did. You can't do it in any
Speaker 2: many Americans did? But is everybody okay with that?
Speaker 3: Creating a welfare state so lavish that people can choose
Speaker 3: not to do jobs that they don't find like something
Speaker 3: they want to do, even if it pays twenty nine
Speaker 3: dollars an hour and one more amusing irony.
Speaker 2: This is amusing me for many, many years. The more
Speaker 2: quote unquote progressive. You are, the more in favor of
Speaker 2: white people, won't do this work. Let's bring in some
Speaker 2: of those brown people. I mean, that's the the further
Speaker 2: left yard, the more you're a hardcore open up the
Speaker 2: borders and let an in person, which I think is hilarious.
Speaker 3: There's also the unspoken, unstated realization that if millions of
Speaker 3: people come here and do those jobs they're getting by,
Speaker 3: they must be able to live somewhere and have a
Speaker 3: car and eat and you know, do all the things
Speaker 3: you want to do with a job right by.
Speaker 2: Definition, Yeah, it's just it's it boils down to a
Speaker 2: couple of very very simple principles. Number one is the
Speaker 2: purpose of getting the reins of government is to be
Speaker 2: able to distribute money from the treasury. Doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: the system is, they vary in how they do that,
Speaker 2: but that's the point. And in our system you've got
Speaker 2: to get a little support from a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Kim Jong un just needs a hell of a lot
Speaker 2: of support from a fairly small group of people. But
Speaker 2: in a democracy, you need a little support from a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of people. How do you do that?
Speaker 2: By handing out money? Government benefits you know three and
Speaker 2: a half dozen different social programs that make sure nobody's
Speaker 2: going to starve. And so the second, very broad and
Speaker 2: easy to understand principle is people go for their best alternative.
Speaker 2: They will do their best option. And for Americans working
Speaker 2: in a field in the heat and the dust bent
Speaker 2: over is not nearly their best option. For some Guatemalan
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: I just I don't understand how we got to where
Speaker 3: we're okay with that, or think that that's a workable
Speaker 3: plan going forward that doesn't end up with like I've
Speaker 3: been taking in a lot of French Revolution stuff over
Speaker 3: the weekend, you know, that sort of society falling apart.
Speaker 2: I believe the French Revolution is your Roman Empire, although
Speaker 2: you are quite interested in the Roman Empire as well.
Speaker 2: It is. So the answer of how we get there
Speaker 2: is because nobody asks the question, the moral question there,
Speaker 2: the one that we keep harping on. It's not part
Speaker 2: of the conversation at all. No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: ABC this week did a long segment on this topic
Speaker 3: and not a word of Does it seem a little
Speaker 3: weird to have a society where you've declared certain jobs
Speaker 3: off limits for your citizens, Like no that's too grungy
Speaker 3: a job, even at twenty nine dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: You just don't want to have to do I mean,
Speaker 2: would you do that with your own kids.
Speaker 3: I'll keep supporting you, you know, until you're thirty or
Speaker 3: a past rather than you go do that job.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, who would live their lives like that? Democracy's
Speaker 2: end when they realize they can vote themselves money from
Speaker 2: the treasury. Can you imagine running on the platform. I'm
Speaker 2: going to get you off of your couch and into
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 6: Good luck with a right.
Speaker 2: We're a soft decade country.
Speaker 3: That's just that's it, we really are, which is what
Speaker 3: France was when they fell apart. Not to get back
Speaker 3: to the revolution, but and then here they wrapped up
Speaker 3: the conversation with this portion.
Speaker 1: Deporting undocumented workers in California is complicated. The state enacted
Speaker 1: a measure in twenty seventeen that prevents state resources from
Speaker 1: being used for federal immigration enforcement. And while that law
Speaker 1: varies by city and county, California is the sanctuary city
Speaker 1: capital of America, with dozens of cities and counties protecting
Speaker 1: undocumented residents from arrest based solely on their immigration status.
Speaker 3: So that's a problem. I mean it all fits together
Speaker 3: as part of a puzzle. I hate the whole thing.
Speaker 3: But if you're going to accept I'm not, but apparently
Speaker 3: we have accepted that our American born people shouldn't have
Speaker 3: to do those jobs. Well, then you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: have illegals here. And then if you're gonna have illegals here,
Speaker 3: you can't have them being deported. So you got to
Speaker 3: be a sanctuary county. I mean, it all fits together, or.
Speaker 2: You just admit all of the above and you design
Speaker 2: a temporary worker program, which is what Congress should do.
Speaker 3: Also not a part of the conversation where they said, well,
Speaker 3: if you want it to be this way, and apparently
Speaker 3: people do well, then Congress needs to sit down and
Speaker 3: come up with a very complex system for workers or
Speaker 3: making these people citizens or whatever it is you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: But you got to come up with a plan.
Speaker 3: The all the arguments I seem to see on the
Speaker 3: Sunday talk shows, nobody was offering anything other than continuing
Speaker 3: to just randomly let people come in buy the millions,
Speaker 3: come and go buy the millions, not know who they are.
Speaker 3: Martha Radditt's even admitted to whoever was pushing back on
Speaker 3: this story. There are six hundred thousand known criminals, not
Speaker 3: the crime of being illegal, but like other crimes from
Speaker 3: Mexico or Venezuela, six hundred thousand criminals in the United
Speaker 3: States right now we don't know where they are, what
Speaker 3: kind of who does that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah it is. It's self destructive.
Speaker 2: It's horrible because we won't get to the root questions
Speaker 2: and the final annoying reality I'd like to trot out there.
Speaker 2: This is why I don't get many invitations to dinner parties.
Speaker 2: Oh you invited, mister annoying reality. Oh good. Is The
Speaker 2: Left raises money from soft heads, in my opinion, with
Speaker 2: their no human being is illegal, bill bridges, not walls, nonsense,
Speaker 2: and the Right raises money on boot them all out,
Speaker 2: seal the borders, and to say we're going to craft
Speaker 2: a guest worker program that's gonna let one point one
Speaker 2: million people in temporarily, we'll keep tracking them, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: a streamline the course. That's just you can't raise money
Speaker 2: on that. It's too complicated. The devil is in the details,
Speaker 2: and there's always plenty to anger. You know, virtually everybody
Speaker 2: in the discussion. So I don't know. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to be discouraging, but as long as small money donations
Speaker 2: rule politics, it's going to be hard to work out
Speaker 2: stuff like this.
Speaker 3: I'm just appalled by the idea. I've always cringed when
Speaker 3: anybody says those are jobs Americans won't do. That makes
Speaker 3: me cringe. You cannot be a strong, functioning, successful society
Speaker 3: if you've decided certain jobs are off limits to your citizens.
Speaker 2: That's sickening as a notion. That's how empires fall back
Speaker 2: to Rome. Or if you'd prefer, I assume, with your
Speaker 2: French Revolution passion, you'd like to say, see guillotines all
Speaker 2: over America cutting off the heads of the disloyal or immigrant.
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Speaker 3: Did everybody see highlights of Trump rolling into that WWE
Speaker 3: event over the weekend with Elon and Kid Rock everybody?
Speaker 2: That was something to a deafening reception?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then and then when the greatest Mma fighter
Speaker 3: maybe of all time wins. At the end, he goes
Speaker 3: over and gives his belt to Trump and everybody's cheering
Speaker 3: like crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean that is that is something. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: want to talk about the dynamics it works there because
Speaker 2: it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: So if you haven't heard it, we'll play a little
Speaker 3: of the audio and a bunch of other stuff on
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Speaker 2: Stay here. That lady said Settlement a book who is
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Speaker 7: Fantasatigan Flack by UFC CEO Data White, the President's LEXI
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Speaker 2: Please the people that come home?
Speaker 4: Doesn't sound in this room?
Speaker 2: Is so loud here, it is so loud. It's always how.
Speaker 6: Many comes here?
Speaker 2: But how many's long now that he's the president of Yes, oh.
Speaker 3: My god.
Speaker 2: Something Yeah, And if you saw any videos people took
Speaker 2: their phones and posted on social media, I mean because
Speaker 2: that didn't they didn't have a crowd mic on that
Speaker 2: little bit of audio. But yeah, just deafening, like the
Speaker 2: championship has just been one noise in a sports arena.
Speaker 3: Well, they did a thing up on the screen where
Speaker 3: they had Trump's name in forty five and then it
Speaker 3: kind of swept away and turned into forty seven. And
Speaker 3: then it's when the crowd really went berzerko when Trump
Speaker 3: walked out with Elon RFK Junior, Vi Vaig, Tulsey, Kid Rock,
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, Dana White, Jelly Roll the singer, and Don
Speaker 3: Junior and the crowd going absolutely berserk. And then I
Speaker 3: don't follow. But then whoever supposedly is the current greatest
Speaker 3: MMA fighter of all time? He wins this big championship match,
Speaker 3: goes over and gives Trump the belt. Trump holds it up,
Speaker 3: crowd goes absolutely ape as Again at the end of
Speaker 3: the night, It's just like, if you're trying to run
Speaker 3: against that, how do you run against that?
Speaker 2: Well, Trump's gift, and the mainstream media in particular is
Speaker 2: just tied themselves in knots trying to understand this is Trump,
Speaker 2: a billionaire gets working people. And I think, honestly, his
Speaker 2: kids have talked about how he always took them to
Speaker 2: the work sites and explained what was going on and
Speaker 2: why the people were doing this, that and the other,
Speaker 2: and how a building takes shape and blah blah, and
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time interacting with the contractors and
Speaker 2: the workers and that sort of thing. And you know,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, born to wealth, billionaire developer, he gets
Speaker 2: working folks and he does not have contempt for them,
Speaker 2: which is an incredible gift politically. How about that picture
Speaker 2: from the Trump plane where they are eating all the
Speaker 2: McDonald's food. So it's him and Elon and his son
Speaker 2: in RFK Junior Mike Johnson all having McDonald's big bax
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and Trump says, make America healthy
Speaker 2: again starts tomorrow, which is also a really relatable to
Speaker 2: regular people sort of thing. We'll start eating healthy tomorrow. Well,
Speaker 2: and again in this I know it's ironic, it's a
Speaker 2: hilarious that's not ironic, but be an incredibly down to
Speaker 2: earth thing to say down to earth. Oh that is funny. Hey,
Speaker 2: I can't help a note in that really interesting group
Speaker 2: of folks who entered the UFC arena. No Matt Gates,
Speaker 2: who would have crawled across cut glass and turned down
Speaker 2: a date with three seventeen year olds to be there.
Speaker 3: This was held at Madison Square Garden, the very same
Speaker 3: arena where that Nazi rally reminiscent of the one from
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty nine was.
Speaker 2: Held in a different building that happened to have the
Speaker 2: same name. It was just like it. Yes, because there
Speaker 2: were people and speeches and shouting. Yes.
Speaker 3: First of all, the fact again that Elon is a
Speaker 3: Trump's side for everything that's happening all the time. I
Speaker 3: can't wait till that story is completely told. And then
Speaker 3: RFK Junior. They're holding the big back in his hands.
Speaker 6: He's gotta hate that.
Speaker 2: Oh he did not look overly pleased. He did not.
Speaker 2: I think Trump told him here to grab this. This
Speaker 2: will be funny. So so that bromance Trump and Elon?
Speaker 2: How long can it last?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Dang it? I wonder too. I wonder too.
Speaker 3: Axios is reporting a blow up between Elon and one
Speaker 3: of Trump's advisors over some cabinet pick. But I mean
Speaker 3: Trump and mad Dog Trump, and you know, lots of
Speaker 3: people went sideways, and Elon's got a pretty big platform
Speaker 3: to bad mouth Trump if it goes wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, everybody, everybody keep cool, remember our manners.
Speaker 2: All right, generous listening, et cetera. Yeah, right, armstrong and getty.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's really funny delivery too. That one made me
Speaker 2: laugh out loud.
Speaker 3: One of the great things that's going to come out
Speaker 3: of the RFK Junior thing, you know, if he makes
Speaker 3: it all the way to being questioned in the Confirmation.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I'm not exactly sure where I
Speaker 3: am on him as a running h chess right now.
Speaker 3: But like there's an article in the Washington Post today,
Speaker 3: I regularly am hearing he wants to end one of
Speaker 3: the most successful health programs in world history, fluoride in
Speaker 3: the water well the Washington Post today with a one
Speaker 3: of their respected opinion writers, RFK Junior's views on fluoride
Speaker 3: aren't as crazy as you might think. And I will
Speaker 3: run through that next segment maybe, But there's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of Germany, Denmark, a whole bunch of Western countries
Speaker 3: that banned fluoride for a bunch of reasons that are decent.
Speaker 2: I don't you know.
Speaker 3: I've never looked into it myself, but it's not insane.
Speaker 3: It's not an insane idea.
Speaker 2: I remember that argument slash conversation from my youth as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact. So yeah, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: hearing that. Plus we're talking to the fabulous Mike Lyons
Speaker 2: about various developments in war and peace, speaking of which,
Speaker 2: I found this so interesting, particularly in the week the
Speaker 2: wake of a conversation I had over the weekend with
Speaker 2: the guy who's involved in the sciences and knows a
Speaker 2: bunch of people in the military. But and I mentioned
Speaker 2: this briefly last week, it's peasing in the New York
Speaker 2: Times about how chronic brain trauma is become a terrible,
Speaker 2: terrible problem in the Navy's elite speedboat crews. These are
Speaker 2: the super fast speedboats that often deliver Navy seals to
Speaker 2: their targets. They go across the rough seas at sixty
Speaker 2: miles per hour per hour.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I don't know if you've ever done
Speaker 3: that before, but it is so incredibly jarring.
Speaker 2: We did that. I've done that a couple of times
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 3: But we were on a boat in Hawaii and we
Speaker 3: went flying around, taking us to some caves on the
Speaker 3: other side of the island, and just like flying through
Speaker 3: the water, bam bam bam, and you had to have
Speaker 3: a rope over the top of your feet and hold
Speaker 3: on to it with your hands to keep from flying out.
Speaker 3: But I thought, what is this doing in my head?
Speaker 3: This is a hell of a blow to your whole body,
Speaker 3: over and over again.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the point of this article is you got a
Speaker 2: bunch of guys who were in their thirties or early forties.
Speaker 2: They're just rising to the point that they ought to
Speaker 2: be in command. But they are exhibiting many, many signs
Speaker 2: that are much like NFL players who've had the worst
Speaker 2: of the the the chronic brain injury problems, junior seau, delusions, depressions, suicide,
Speaker 2: substance abuse, lots of not lots of, but because it's
Speaker 2: a fairly small number of people, but a shocking number
Speaker 2: of suicides. As these guys' brains just leave them. And
Speaker 2: I was struck by this sentence. Seeking an edge in combat,
Speaker 2: the Navy has created boats so powerful that riding in
Speaker 2: them can destroy sailor's brains. Wow. And so the theme
Speaker 2: is of a couple of stories I've got for you
Speaker 2: is the future of unmanned war is clearly the future
Speaker 2: on the land, in the air, and on the sea,
Speaker 2: and those technologies are coming on fast and furious. Here's
Speaker 2: the adline for it. Kim Jong un orders mass production of
Speaker 2: suicide attack drones, and you know, when he decides, yeah,
Speaker 2: our society, this is our priority, it becomes their priority.
Speaker 2: It's one of the benefits of being a dictator. But
Speaker 2: they are going to produce shocking numbers of these suicide
Speaker 2: attack drones, both for their own use and to export
Speaker 2: to others.
Speaker 3: So if this is the future, and I'm sure it is,
Speaker 3: being the biggest economy in the world's got to be
Speaker 3: a huge advantage, since it's not about feeding human beings
Speaker 3: into a meat grinder in a war, it's having the
Speaker 3: most you know, technologically advanced stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, that's an interesting point because we are
Speaker 2: at a disadvantage in a way. I mean, obviously this
Speaker 2: is a long philosophical discussion, but in a way because
Speaker 2: we have such high regard for individual life. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was going to talk about it later.
Speaker 3: Russia had the deadliest month last month they've had the
Speaker 3: entire war, breaking the record they set like two months ago.
Speaker 3: So they're having there i mean, speaking of feeding human
Speaker 3: beings into a meat grinder, that's what they're doing, the
Speaker 3: Russians and Ukraine. And now the reporting today from South Korea.
Speaker 3: The North Koreas may put in one hundred thousand troops
Speaker 3: because Russia's running out of people to be fed into
Speaker 3: the grinder that is the war in the Ukraine. But
Speaker 3: the future might be what you're talking about. We just
Speaker 3: we don't have to have human beings doing that, right.
Speaker 2: You know, as long as you brought that up, I've
Speaker 2: been looking for an excuse to mention this. I thought
Speaker 2: this was crazy from the journal the Deathonomics Powering Russia's
Speaker 2: War Machine, and they talk about how, particularly in the
Speaker 2: poorer parts of Russia's hinterlands that are really poor. I
Speaker 2: mean you've got Moscow and a couple of other big city,
Speaker 2: Saint Petersburg, and then the rest of the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've talked about when I rode the train from
Speaker 3: Moscow to Saint Petersburg when we're out in there is
Speaker 3: like a six hour train ride, and out in the
Speaker 3: middle of nowhere it looked like it was the eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: these big old wooden houses with big old board barns,
Speaker 3: and when it was getting dark, there was no lights
Speaker 3: on anywhere.
Speaker 2: It was just dark. I thought, well, this is something
Speaker 2: they mentioned that Russia is, you know, running out of
Speaker 2: dudes and having heavy losses heavier by the minute. In Ukraine,
Speaker 2: they're offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits
Speaker 2: because they have the opposite in regard for their soldiers'
Speaker 2: lives as we do in the US. They'll feed as
Speaker 2: many guys to the machine guns as they need to
Speaker 2: from you know, World War two on or before that
Speaker 2: even but they have now offered higher salaries and bonuses,
Speaker 2: and in some of the country's poorest regions, the military
Speaker 2: wage is as much as five times the average wage. Wow,
Speaker 2: five times plus if you die on the front line,
Speaker 2: your family receives a big compensation payment from the government.
Speaker 2: And so it's life changing for your family.
Speaker 3: So it wouldn't only be patriotic to whatever extent they're
Speaker 3: patriotic about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, it could change your family's trajectory. So they say,
Speaker 2: family of a thirty five year old man who fights
Speaker 2: for a year and is then killed on the battlefield
Speaker 2: would receive the equivalent out of one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's more than he would have earned cumulatively
Speaker 2: working as a civilian until the age of sixty in
Speaker 2: some regions. Wow, that is so again, either twenty five
Speaker 2: years of work or you get killed on the battlefield
Speaker 2: of Ukraine and you get it right up front, not
Speaker 2: to mention other bonuses and insurance payments too.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much they count on that money
Speaker 3: actually coming to them. I don't have any sense of
Speaker 3: if Russia usually follows through on those promises or not.
Speaker 2: I think they do. But anyway, you made the point about,
Speaker 2: you know, willingness to feed people the machine gun fire.
Speaker 2: Here's another headline. Killer robots are about to fill Ukrainian skies.
Speaker 2: Kiev's drone suppliers are ramping up production of computer guided
Speaker 2: drones that are cheap and can't be electronically jammed, and
Speaker 2: I guarantee are Pentagon and Darper or at least for
Speaker 2: God's sake, they are studying these drones and their designs
Speaker 2: and the production of them and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: This is going to completely change the face of infantry.
Speaker 2: And then finally this, I thought this was so interesting.
Speaker 2: This is actually from Wired dot com. The AI machine
Speaker 2: gun of the future is already here. It's a robotic
Speaker 2: twist on its standard issue small arms. Amid a rising
Speaker 2: tide of low cost weaponized adversary drones menacing American troops abroad.
Speaker 2: The US is pulling out all the stops to protect
Speaker 2: its forces from the ever present threat of death from above.
Speaker 2: But between expensive munitions, futuristic but complicated directed energy weapons,
Speaker 2: and its own growing drone arsenal, the Pentagon is increasingly
Speaker 2: eyeing an elegantly simple solution to the growing drone problem,
Speaker 2: reinventing the gun, and the Defense Department is testing an
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence enabled autonomous robotic gun system develop by a
Speaker 2: new defense contractor, Allen Control Systems, dubbed the Bullfrog. It
Speaker 2: consists of a seven point sixty two millimeter M two
Speaker 2: forty machine gun mounted on a specially designed rotating turret,
Speaker 2: outfitted with an electro optical sensor, proprietary AI and computer
Speaker 2: vision software, and it's designed to deliver small arms fire
Speaker 2: on drone targets with far more precision than the average
Speaker 2: US service member can achieve with a standard issue M
Speaker 2: four carbinder even next generation XM seven rifle. So it's
Speaker 2: a computerized drone machine gun with AI and optics that
Speaker 2: sees quote unquote drones coming in blows them out of
Speaker 2: the sky with a machine gun.
Speaker 3: The only I don't doubt this, and we're in a
Speaker 3: different technological time. But I just remember people saying in
Speaker 3: the eighties, smart people saying the next world will be
Speaker 3: a push button warp.
Speaker 2: It'll be all robots.
Speaker 3: In this and been an awful lot of human beings
Speaker 3: run straight into gunfire in the past forty years since
Speaker 3: I heard smart people saying that, including today in Russia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it, and this sounds horrible, but to
Speaker 2: think about it for a second, I think it's similar
Speaker 2: to the question of are we going to have robots
Speaker 2: or human beings manning the drive through at McDonald's or
Speaker 2: flipping burgers. The availability and cost has changed so much
Speaker 2: now this stuff seems realistic. It's not going to cost
Speaker 2: you a billion dollars to develop this super mobile eye
Speaker 2: in the sky machine gun. There'll be a fraction of
Speaker 2: that now, right, But you're right, there will be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same economics exist, obviously, And if you can
Speaker 3: get some poor Russian dude, a whole bunch of them
Speaker 3: to run straight at a machine gun nest until it.
Speaker 2: Might be a lot cheaper than the robots. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got a friend in.
Speaker 3: Four countries that are willing to do that. We're not
Speaker 3: willing to do that, so the different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, and I don't know much about this,
Speaker 2: but I have a friend who operated in Europe in
Speaker 2: engineering for a long time, and he says, the Russians
Speaker 2: this goes back to the Soviet Union days. But it's
Speaker 2: still true. The Russians are great at science and terrible
Speaker 2: at manufacturing for some reason, so that might be their
Speaker 2: great disadvantage, whereas we're pretty damn good at both when
Speaker 2: we get it right. Anyway, the future warfare is changing
Speaker 2: so rapidly, you know, let's pray we don't find out
Speaker 2: what the US ultimately does and how we do it
Speaker 2: for a very long time on a grand scale. But
Speaker 2: who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read a whole bunch of stuff. It was
Speaker 3: in the David Sanger book and the Bob Woodward a book,
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff about this has been the practice
Speaker 3: ground in Ukraine with this war for all kinds of
Speaker 3: different technology and weapons that didn't even exist when this
Speaker 3: thing started.
Speaker 2: So it is the next big.
Speaker 3: War between US and China, and whenever when that comes,
Speaker 3: hopefully no times in will be on the back of
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that's happened in the last
Speaker 3: three years in Ukraine, no doubt.
Speaker 2: And how long is it until are many, many billions
Speaker 2: of dollars worth of aircraft carriers are completely obsolete in
Speaker 2: a great power war. I mean they're just like a
Speaker 2: cow and then a field in terms of their vulnerability
Speaker 2: to smart weapons.
Speaker 3: And that's been one of our greatest advantages for the
Speaker 3: past seventy five years. RFK Junior might be crazy about
Speaker 3: some stuff. He's apparently not crazy about fluoride in the water,
Speaker 3: among other things that we can talk about coming up.
Speaker 2: Stay here, so here you go. You've got fourth and
Speaker 2: two banks left, the now taken all can run.
Speaker 6: And that was the play of the year in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and the Bills running on fourth and two
Speaker 3: in a game in which the Chiefs almost certainly would
Speaker 3: have won and stayed undefeated if they hadn't made the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 2: Yay, it runs all the way in for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Very exciting.
Speaker 3: Several of the most exciting NFL games over the last
Speaker 3: years have been Chiefs Bills games. And at the end,
Speaker 3: I saw mahomes that they caught it on. Mike slap
Speaker 3: Josh Allen on the head and say I was a
Speaker 3: hell of a play. Let's do it again in January. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which I'm sure they will.
Speaker 2: If I'm some extremely athletic, talented, two hundred pounds defensive back,
Speaker 2: I'm going to stop the game and I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: excuse me, excuse me. The quarterback is as big as
Speaker 2: a truck. Is this fair? Is this I'm just asking
Speaker 2: to be that big and that fast?
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, Mike Tyson could have said that Friday night.
Speaker 3: I'm an old man.
Speaker 2: Is it fair? Why are you doing this? Good question?
Speaker 3: So RFK Junior is quite the controversial figure. I mean
Speaker 3: I knew that going in, but taking in a bunch
Speaker 3: of social media over the weekend, there are a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of you who are really, really, really into the
Speaker 3: idea of RFK Junior taking over the health of America,
Speaker 3: like it's seems to be among your more important priorities.
Speaker 2: Now I do agree with.
Speaker 3: I tweeted this out over the weekend from the Babylon
Speaker 3: b and the pushback to RFK Jr fattest sickest country
Speaker 3: on Earth, concerned new health secretary might do something different.
Speaker 2: There's a certain amount of truth to that.
Speaker 3: With just anytime you try anytime there's a giant problem
Speaker 3: and somebody comes along that's going to interrupt what you
Speaker 3: have been doing. There's always so much pushback, and we
Speaker 3: use the example of a legal immigration or the tax code, or.
Speaker 6: The way we eat.
Speaker 3: We got every person I know who's got a kid
Speaker 3: with autism or ADHD or anxiety medications they gotta take,
Speaker 3: and we like, we just accept that is okay. I
Speaker 3: guess times change. I guess every family needs to have
Speaker 3: a kid who needs to be on drugs.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. The question, you know, is,
Speaker 2: is this guy the right shaker upper right, there's the nutjob.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like the tax code. Oh, we better
Speaker 2: not change anything. No, no, nobody. You mean, there's no
Speaker 2: human being ever would think this is a good system.
Speaker 2: You're completely resistant to changing it.
Speaker 3: To explain, please, yeah, I recognize my logical fallacy that
Speaker 3: because we're unlikely to change these complicated things, it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean the first person with any idea to come along
Speaker 3: automatically should be uh considered the answer. But before we
Speaker 3: get to some good stuff about RFK Junior from the
Speaker 3: Washington Post, here's him talking about vaccines over the year,
Speaker 3: keeping over the years, keeping in mind that last week,
Speaker 3: every time a microphone was in his.
Speaker 2: Face, he said, no, I'm not anti vaxx.
Speaker 5: COVID nineteen is targeted to attack Caucasians and a black people.
Speaker 5: The people who are most men are asconagages and Chinese.
Speaker 2: Can you name any vaccines that you think are good?
Speaker 5: I think some of the live iris vaccines are probably
Speaker 5: uh saw of earning more problems than their causing. There's
Speaker 5: no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. I
Speaker 5: do believe that autism does come from vaccines. A mountain
Speaker 5: of scientific study lengths autism too early vaccination with certain vaccines.
Speaker 3: So no vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines
Speaker 3: cause autism. It's interesting that a lot of the pushback
Speaker 3: from the left on that, given the fact that my
Speaker 3: entire like radio career, it's been the parents of Marin County,
Speaker 3: the super lefties who have been saying autism is caused
Speaker 3: by vaccines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a direct correlation between that belief and
Speaker 2: Master's degrees are higher in any given zip code.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so now it's a right wing crazy thing
Speaker 3: as opposed to it was a left wing crazy thing.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he also wants to get the fluoride out
Speaker 3: of the water, which I heard I still hear heard yesterday.
Speaker 2: Any people saying.
Speaker 3: That's not one of the most successful health programs in
Speaker 3: world history, Well they're person who writes about this sort
Speaker 3: of stuff for the Washington Post is AREFK. Junior's views
Speaker 3: on flooride aren't as crazy as you might think, and
Speaker 3: lists all of the pushback there has been over the years.
Speaker 3: We've been doing this since nineteen sixty two, by the way,
Speaker 3: putting fluoride in the water, and most states have been
Speaker 3: on board for decades and decades. But there's a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of countries around the world, like real countries, that
Speaker 3: have decided now, this is not good.
Speaker 2: It can cause all kinds of problems.
Speaker 3: So I just want to point out that on this
Speaker 3: particular topic, it's not nuts that he's going around saying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, my own personal level of belief and
Speaker 2: health authorities was seriously damaged by observing everything that happened
Speaker 2: during COVID NOA. It became clear no that they listen.
Speaker 2: If we say there are are downsides to this, people
Speaker 2: won't do it. So let's pretend there are no downsides.
Speaker 2: Saw it running rampant that doesn't mean you have to
Speaker 2: reject everything all the time in a knee jerk way.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they are willing to trade off good for
Speaker 2: bad in their perception and then downplay the bad, sometimes
Speaker 2: at the point of utter dishonesty.
Speaker 3: Well, how about the food pyramid throughout my lifetime and
Speaker 3: the lies around that are strong and getty