WEBVTT - Why Are We Doing This?

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Jettie and Key Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>California's Central Valley is without question one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>vital agricultural regions in America, producing seventeen billion dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of crops, twenty five percent of the nation's food supply.

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<v Speaker 1>And to help grow and harvest those crops, many farmers

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<v Speaker 1>here rely on undocumented workers. The Department of Agriculture estimates

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<v Speaker 1>that about half of the hired crop workers do not

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<v Speaker 1>have legal status. That is estimated to be more than

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty thousand workers in the Central Valley alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand workers in the Central Valley alone, that if you

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<v Speaker 3>followed what recent poling says, sixty percent of America wants

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<v Speaker 3>would all be booted out of the country. And that

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<v Speaker 3>would be obviously, if you did that all at once,

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<v Speaker 3>would be quite the wrecking of the whole agricultural system.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, though, because you

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<v Speaker 3>got to have a system of some sort for having workers,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the job of Congress to come up with and.

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<v Speaker 2>Be implied and follow through.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're going to or not, but

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<v Speaker 3>Joe and I have been talking about illegal immigration in

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<v Speaker 3>farm workers for jeez, twenty five years or whatever being

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<v Speaker 3>on the air, and this very part of the a

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<v Speaker 3>California in the country that they're talking about on ABC

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<v Speaker 3>this week, And we used to talk about it all

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<v Speaker 3>the time when we were only on in the Sacramento area.

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<v Speaker 3>People wuld always talk, do you want tomatoes to be

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<v Speaker 3>five dollars? Well, then you know I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>pick the lettuce. Yeah, exactly. It was always the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And our answer was always somebody or nobody or a machine.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's hear from a couple of farmers in the

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<v Speaker 3>Central Valley and their theories on why you need to

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<v Speaker 3>have illegals picking.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's more from ABC this week.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we

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<v Speaker 4>had a labor shortage and there were times where we

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<v Speaker 4>actually lost some crop.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will look and say, but wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>they're Americans who are unemployed.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't you just hire them?

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want to come out here and work in

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<v Speaker 4>this extreme conditions one hundred plus degree temperatures, dust, hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you paid them more, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we pay some of the highest wages for

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<v Speaker 4>farm workers in the nation right here in California, and

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<v Speaker 4>they won't come out.

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<v Speaker 3>And just so before we have that conversation, here's a

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<v Speaker 3>different farmer, same question, same topic there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what you pay them.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care if you pay twenty six dollars an hour,

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<v Speaker 5>it ain't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to get up at four or five

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning, drive to the field and pick fruit.

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<v Speaker 3>So and the question was, why, uh, why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>just hire Americans? They won't do it. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>what you pay them. They're not going to get up

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<v Speaker 3>that time of day and come out and do that job.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't understand why that isn't a hold on pause,

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<v Speaker 3>let's have a conversation about that sort of revelation on

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<v Speaker 3>ABC this week. They just move on to and they

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<v Speaker 3>see Americans won't do this work, so it makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>to have illegal brown people do it. What what how

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<v Speaker 3>do you craft a society like that? How about why

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<v Speaker 3>would people who are unemployed or underemployed take the option

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<v Speaker 3>of not doing a job even if it paid really well, right, right?

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<v Speaker 3>How could they do that? How does that work? How

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<v Speaker 3>does that find? How are they paying the rent?

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<v Speaker 6>How are they eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine if you went to family counseling and

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<v Speaker 2>you said, my children refused to do their chores and

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<v Speaker 2>the counselor said, well, let's talk about how you can

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<v Speaker 2>hire someone to do your children's right. No, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the right question, right, Yeah, Oh that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've been talking about this very topic for decades now.

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<v Speaker 3>How have we just accepted that people born in this

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<v Speaker 3>country shouldn't have to do work that's not I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>glamorous or kind of hard, or it's outside or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason is people don't want to do it. I

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<v Speaker 3>did that kind of work when I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of us did. You can't do it in any

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<v Speaker 2>many Americans did? But is everybody okay with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Creating a welfare state so lavish that people can choose

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<v Speaker 3>not to do jobs that they don't find like something

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<v Speaker 3>they want to do, even if it pays twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>dollars an hour and one more amusing irony.

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<v Speaker 2>This is amusing me for many, many years. The more

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote progressive. You are, the more in favor of

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<v Speaker 2>white people, won't do this work. Let's bring in some

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<v Speaker 2>of those brown people. I mean, that's the the further

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<v Speaker 2>left yard, the more you're a hardcore open up the

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<v Speaker 2>borders and let an in person, which I think is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also the unspoken, unstated realization that if millions of

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<v Speaker 3>people come here and do those jobs they're getting by,

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<v Speaker 3>they must be able to live somewhere and have a

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<v Speaker 3>car and eat and you know, do all the things

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<v Speaker 3>you want to do with a job right by.

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<v Speaker 2>Definition, Yeah, it's just it's it boils down to a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of very very simple principles. Number one is the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of getting the reins of government is to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to distribute money from the treasury. Doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 2>the system is, they vary in how they do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the point. And in our system you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little support from a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Jong un just needs a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of support from a fairly small group of people. But

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<v Speaker 2>in a democracy, you need a little support from a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot of people. How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>By handing out money? Government benefits you know three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half dozen different social programs that make sure nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>going to starve. And so the second, very broad and

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<v Speaker 2>easy to understand principle is people go for their best alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>They will do their best option. And for Americans working

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<v Speaker 2>in a field in the heat and the dust bent

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<v Speaker 2>over is not nearly their best option. For some Guatemalan

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't understand how we got to where

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<v Speaker 3>we're okay with that, or think that that's a workable

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<v Speaker 3>plan going forward that doesn't end up with like I've

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<v Speaker 3>been taking in a lot of French Revolution stuff over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend, you know, that sort of society falling apart.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the French Revolution is your Roman Empire, although

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<v Speaker 2>you are quite interested in the Roman Empire as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. So the answer of how we get there

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<v Speaker 2>is because nobody asks the question, the moral question there,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that we keep harping on. It's not part

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<v Speaker 2>of the conversation at all. No, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>ABC this week did a long segment on this topic

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<v Speaker 3>and not a word of Does it seem a little

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<v Speaker 3>weird to have a society where you've declared certain jobs

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<v Speaker 3>off limits for your citizens, Like no that's too grungy

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<v Speaker 3>a job, even at twenty nine dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>You just don't want to have to do I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>would you do that with your own kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll keep supporting you, you know, until you're thirty or

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<v Speaker 3>a past rather than you go do that job.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, who would live their lives like that? Democracy's

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<v Speaker 2>end when they realize they can vote themselves money from

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<v Speaker 2>the treasury. Can you imagine running on the platform. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to get you off of your couch and into

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<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 6>Good luck with a right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a soft decade country.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just that's it, we really are, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>France was when they fell apart. Not to get back

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<v Speaker 3>to the revolution, but and then here they wrapped up

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation with this portion.

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<v Speaker 1>Deporting undocumented workers in California is complicated. The state enacted

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<v Speaker 1>a measure in twenty seventeen that prevents state resources from

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<v Speaker 1>being used for federal immigration enforcement. And while that law

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<v Speaker 1>varies by city and county, California is the sanctuary city

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<v Speaker 1>capital of America, with dozens of cities and counties protecting

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<v Speaker 1>undocumented residents from arrest based solely on their immigration status.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a problem. I mean it all fits together

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<v Speaker 3>as part of a puzzle. I hate the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're going to accept I'm not, but apparently

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<v Speaker 3>we have accepted that our American born people shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to do those jobs. Well, then you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>have illegals here. And then if you're gonna have illegals here,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't have them being deported. So you got to

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<v Speaker 3>be a sanctuary county. I mean, it all fits together, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You just admit all of the above and you design

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<v Speaker 2>a temporary worker program, which is what Congress should do.

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<v Speaker 3>Also not a part of the conversation where they said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want it to be this way, and apparently

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<v Speaker 3>people do well, then Congress needs to sit down and

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<v Speaker 3>come up with a very complex system for workers or

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<v Speaker 3>making these people citizens or whatever it is you're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to come up with a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>The all the arguments I seem to see on the

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday talk shows, nobody was offering anything other than continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to just randomly let people come in buy the millions,

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<v Speaker 3>come and go buy the millions, not know who they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Martha Radditt's even admitted to whoever was pushing back on

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<v Speaker 3>this story. There are six hundred thousand known criminals, not

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<v Speaker 3>the crime of being illegal, but like other crimes from

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico or Venezuela, six hundred thousand criminals in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States right now we don't know where they are, what

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<v Speaker 3>kind of who does that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah it is. It's self destructive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible because we won't get to the root questions

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<v Speaker 2>and the final annoying reality I'd like to trot out there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I don't get many invitations to dinner parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you invited, mister annoying reality. Oh good. Is The

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<v Speaker 2>Left raises money from soft heads, in my opinion, with

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<v Speaker 2>their no human being is illegal, bill bridges, not walls, nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Right raises money on boot them all out,

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<v Speaker 2>seal the borders, and to say we're going to craft

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<v Speaker 2>a guest worker program that's gonna let one point one

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<v Speaker 2>million people in temporarily, we'll keep tracking them, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>a streamline the course. That's just you can't raise money

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<v Speaker 2>on that. It's too complicated. The devil is in the details,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's always plenty to anger. You know, virtually everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the discussion. So I don't know. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just appalled by the idea. I've always cringed when

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<v Speaker 3>anybody says those are jobs Americans won't do. That makes

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<v Speaker 3>me cringe. You cannot be a strong, functioning, successful society

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<v Speaker 3>if you've decided certain jobs are off limits to your citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sickening as a notion. That's how empires fall back

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<v Speaker 2>to Rome. Or if you'd prefer, I assume, with your

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<v Speaker 2>French Revolution passion, you'd like to say, see guillotines all

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<v Speaker 2>just have to play five bucks and they give you

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<v Speaker 2>fifty using that code of armstrong, run your game.

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<v Speaker 3>Did everybody see highlights of Trump rolling into that WWE

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<v Speaker 3>event over the weekend with Elon and Kid Rock everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>That was something to a deafening reception?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And then and then when the greatest Mma fighter

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<v Speaker 3>maybe of all time wins. At the end, he goes

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<v Speaker 3>over and gives his belt to Trump and everybody's cheering

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<v Speaker 3>like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is that is something. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the dynamics it works there because

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<v Speaker 2>it's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you haven't heard it, we'll play a little

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<v Speaker 3>of the audio and a bunch of other stuff on

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<v Speaker 3>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay here. That lady said Settlement a book who is

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<v Speaker 2>now making his way to the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Fantasatigan Flack by UFC CEO Data White, the President's LEXI

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<v Speaker 7>got the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>Please the people that come home?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't sound in this room?

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<v Speaker 2>Is so loud here, it is so loud. It's always how.

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<v Speaker 6>Many comes here?

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<v Speaker 2>But how many's long now that he's the president of Yes, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>My god.

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<v Speaker 2>Something Yeah, And if you saw any videos people took

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<v Speaker 2>their phones and posted on social media, I mean because

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't they didn't have a crowd mic on that

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of audio. But yeah, just deafening, like the

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<v Speaker 2>championship has just been one noise in a sports arena.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they did a thing up on the screen where

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<v Speaker 3>they had Trump's name in forty five and then it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of swept away and turned into forty seven. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it's when the crowd really went berzerko when Trump

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<v Speaker 3>walked out with Elon RFK Junior, Vi Vaig, Tulsey, Kid Rock,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Rogan, Dana White, Jelly Roll the singer, and Don

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<v Speaker 3>Junior and the crowd going absolutely berserk. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>don't follow. But then whoever supposedly is the current greatest

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<v Speaker 3>MMA fighter of all time? He wins this big championship match,

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<v Speaker 3>goes over and gives Trump the belt. Trump holds it up,

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<v Speaker 3>crowd goes absolutely ape as Again at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the night, It's just like, if you're trying to run

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<v Speaker 3>against that, how do you run against that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Trump's gift, and the mainstream media in particular is

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<v Speaker 2>just tied themselves in knots trying to understand this is Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire gets working people. And I think, honestly, his

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<v Speaker 2>kids have talked about how he always took them to

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<v Speaker 2>the work sites and explained what was going on and

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<v Speaker 2>why the people were doing this, that and the other,

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<v Speaker 2>and how a building takes shape and blah blah, and

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time interacting with the contractors and

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<v Speaker 2>the workers and that sort of thing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, born to wealth, billionaire developer, he gets

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<v Speaker 2>working folks and he does not have contempt for them,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an incredible gift politically. How about that picture

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<v Speaker 2>from the Trump plane where they are eating all the

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<v Speaker 2>McDonald's food. So it's him and Elon and his son

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<v Speaker 2>in RFK Junior Mike Johnson all having McDonald's big bax

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, and Trump says, make America healthy

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<v Speaker 2>again starts tomorrow, which is also a really relatable to

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<v Speaker 2>regular people sort of thing. We'll start eating healthy tomorrow. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and again in this I know it's ironic, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>hilarious that's not ironic, but be an incredibly down to

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<v Speaker 2>earth thing to say down to earth. Oh that is funny. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help a note in that really interesting group

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<v Speaker 2>of folks who entered the UFC arena. No Matt Gates,

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<v Speaker 2>who would have crawled across cut glass and turned down

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<v Speaker 2>a date with three seventeen year olds to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>This was held at Madison Square Garden, the very same

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<v Speaker 3>arena where that Nazi rally reminiscent of the one from

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty nine was.

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<v Speaker 2>Held in a different building that happened to have the

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<v Speaker 2>same name. It was just like it. Yes, because there

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<v Speaker 2>were people and speeches and shouting. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, the fact again that Elon is a

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's side for everything that's happening all the time. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait till that story is completely told. And then

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<v Speaker 3>RFK Junior. They're holding the big back in his hands.

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<v Speaker 6>He's gotta hate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he did not look overly pleased. He did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Trump told him here to grab this. This

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<v Speaker 2>will be funny. So so that bromance Trump and Elon?

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<v Speaker 2>How long can it last?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Dang it? I wonder too. I wonder too.

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<v Speaker 3>Axios is reporting a blow up between Elon and one

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<v Speaker 3>of Trump's advisors over some cabinet pick. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and mad Dog Trump, and you know, lots of

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<v Speaker 3>people went sideways, and Elon's got a pretty big platform

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<v Speaker 3>to bad mouth Trump if it goes wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, everybody, everybody keep cool, remember our manners.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, generous listening, et cetera. Yeah, right, armstrong and getty.

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<v Speaker 8>A Spirit Airlines flight was forced to divert after it

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<v Speaker 8>was struck by gunfire from gangs while trying to land

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<v Speaker 8>in Haiti. A rare setback for people who fly spirit

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<v Speaker 8>to Haiti.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's really funny delivery too. That one made me

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<v Speaker 2>laugh out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the great things that's going to come out

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<v Speaker 3>of the RFK Junior thing, you know, if he makes

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<v Speaker 3>it all the way to being questioned in the Confirmation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, I'm not exactly sure where I

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<v Speaker 3>am on him as a running h chess right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But like there's an article in the Washington Post today,

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<v Speaker 3>I regularly am hearing he wants to end one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most successful health programs in world history, fluoride in

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<v Speaker 3>the water well the Washington Post today with a one

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<v Speaker 3>of their respected opinion writers, RFK Junior's views on fluoride

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<v Speaker 3>aren't as crazy as you might think. And I will

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<v Speaker 3>run through that next segment maybe, But there's a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of Germany, Denmark, a whole bunch of Western countries

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<v Speaker 3>that banned fluoride for a bunch of reasons that are decent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never looked into it myself, but it's not insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not an insane idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that argument slash conversation from my youth as

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact. So yeah, I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that. Plus we're talking to the fabulous Mike Lyons

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<v Speaker 2>about various developments in war and peace, speaking of which,

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<v Speaker 2>I found this so interesting, particularly in the week the

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<v Speaker 2>wake of a conversation I had over the weekend with

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who's involved in the sciences and knows a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people in the military. But and I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>this briefly last week, it's peasing in the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times about how chronic brain trauma is become a terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>terrible problem in the Navy's elite speedboat crews. These are

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<v Speaker 2>the super fast speedboats that often deliver Navy seals to

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<v Speaker 2>their targets. They go across the rough seas at sixty

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<v Speaker 2>miles per hour per hour.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and I don't know if you've ever done

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<v Speaker 3>that before, but it is so incredibly jarring.

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<v Speaker 2>We did that. I've done that a couple of times

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were on a boat in Hawaii and we

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<v Speaker 3>went flying around, taking us to some caves on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of the island, and just like flying through

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<v Speaker 3>the water, bam bam bam, and you had to have

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<v Speaker 3>a rope over the top of your feet and hold

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<v Speaker 3>on to it with your hands to keep from flying out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought, what is this doing in my head?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a hell of a blow to your whole body,

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<v Speaker 3>over and over again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the point of this article is you got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of guys who were in their thirties or early forties.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just rising to the point that they ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be in command. But they are exhibiting many, many signs

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<v Speaker 2>that are much like NFL players who've had the worst

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<v Speaker 2>of the the the chronic brain injury problems, junior seau, delusions, depressions, suicide,

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<v Speaker 2>substance abuse, lots of not lots of, but because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly small number of people, but a shocking number

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<v Speaker 2>of suicides. As these guys' brains just leave them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was struck by this sentence. Seeking an edge in combat,

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<v Speaker 2>the Navy has created boats so powerful that riding in

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<v Speaker 2>them can destroy sailor's brains. Wow. And so the theme

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<v Speaker 2>is of a couple of stories I've got for you

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<v Speaker 2>is the future of unmanned war is clearly the future

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<v Speaker 2>on the land, in the air, and on the sea,

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<v Speaker 2>and those technologies are coming on fast and furious. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the adline for it. Kim Jong un orders mass production of

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<v Speaker 2>suicide attack drones, and you know, when he decides, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>our society, this is our priority, it becomes their priority.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the benefits of being a dictator. But

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<v Speaker 2>they are going to produce shocking numbers of these suicide

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<v Speaker 2>attack drones, both for their own use and to export

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<v Speaker 2>to others.

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<v Speaker 3>So if this is the future, and I'm sure it is,

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<v Speaker 3>being the biggest economy in the world's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>a huge advantage, since it's not about feeding human beings

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<v Speaker 3>into a meat grinder in a war, it's having the

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<v Speaker 3>most you know, technologically advanced stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, that's an interesting point because we are

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<v Speaker 2>at a disadvantage in a way. I mean, obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>is a long philosophical discussion, but in a way because

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<v Speaker 2>we have such high regard for individual life. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to talk about it later.

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<v Speaker 3>Russia had the deadliest month last month they've had the

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<v Speaker 3>entire war, breaking the record they set like two months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're having there i mean, speaking of feeding human

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<v Speaker 3>beings into a meat grinder, that's what they're doing, the

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<v Speaker 3>Russians and Ukraine. And now the reporting today from South Korea.

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<v Speaker 3>The North Koreas may put in one hundred thousand troops

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<v Speaker 3>because Russia's running out of people to be fed into

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<v Speaker 3>the grinder that is the war in the Ukraine. But

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<v Speaker 3>the future might be what you're talking about. We just

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to have human beings doing that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as long as you brought that up, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been looking for an excuse to mention this. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was crazy from the journal the Deathonomics Powering Russia's

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<v Speaker 2>War Machine, and they talk about how, particularly in the

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<v Speaker 2>poorer parts of Russia's hinterlands that are really poor. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you've got Moscow and a couple of other big city,

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Petersburg, and then the rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've talked about when I rode the train from

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<v Speaker 3>Moscow to Saint Petersburg when we're out in there is

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<v Speaker 3>like a six hour train ride, and out in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of nowhere it looked like it was the eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 3>these big old wooden houses with big old board barns,

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<v Speaker 3>and when it was getting dark, there was no lights

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<v Speaker 3>on anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just dark. I thought, well, this is something

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<v Speaker 2>they mentioned that Russia is, you know, running out of

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<v Speaker 2>dudes and having heavy losses heavier by the minute. In Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>they're offering high salaries and bonuses to entice new recruits

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<v Speaker 2>because they have the opposite in regard for their soldiers'

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<v Speaker 2>lives as we do in the US. They'll feed as

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<v Speaker 2>many guys to the machine guns as they need to

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, World War two on or before that

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<v Speaker 2>even but they have now offered higher salaries and bonuses,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some of the country's poorest regions, the military

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<v Speaker 2>wage is as much as five times the average wage. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>five times plus if you die on the front line,

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<v Speaker 2>your family receives a big compensation payment from the government.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's life changing for your family.

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<v Speaker 3>So it wouldn't only be patriotic to whatever extent they're

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<v Speaker 3>patriotic about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, it could change your family's trajectory. So they say,

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<v Speaker 2>family of a thirty five year old man who fights

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<v Speaker 2>for a year and is then killed on the battlefield

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<v Speaker 2>would receive the equivalent out of one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. That's more than he would have earned cumulatively

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<v Speaker 2>working as a civilian until the age of sixty in

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<v Speaker 2>some regions. Wow, that is so again, either twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>years of work or you get killed on the battlefield

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<v Speaker 2>of Ukraine and you get it right up front, not

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<v Speaker 2>to mention other bonuses and insurance payments too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much they count on that money

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<v Speaker 3>actually coming to them. I don't have any sense of

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<v Speaker 3>if Russia usually follows through on those promises or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they do. But anyway, you made the point about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, willingness to feed people the machine gun fire.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Here's another headline. Killer robots are about to fill Ukrainian skies.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Kiev's drone suppliers are ramping up production of computer guided

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 2>drones that are cheap and can't be electronically jammed, and

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee are Pentagon and Darper or at least for

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<v Speaker 2>God's sake, they are studying these drones and their designs

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and the production of them and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to completely change the face of infantry.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally this, I thought this was so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually from Wired dot com. The AI machine

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<v Speaker 2>gun of the future is already here. It's a robotic

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<v Speaker 2>twist on its standard issue small arms. Amid a rising

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<v Speaker 2>tide of low cost weaponized adversary drones menacing American troops abroad.

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<v Speaker 2>The US is pulling out all the stops to protect

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<v Speaker 2>its forces from the ever present threat of death from above.

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<v Speaker 2>But between expensive munitions, futuristic but complicated directed energy weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>and its own growing drone arsenal, the Pentagon is increasingly

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<v Speaker 2>eyeing an elegantly simple solution to the growing drone problem,

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<v Speaker 2>reinventing the gun, and the Defense Department is testing an

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence enabled autonomous robotic gun system develop by a

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<v Speaker 2>new defense contractor, Allen Control Systems, dubbed the Bullfrog. It

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<v Speaker 2>consists of a seven point sixty two millimeter M two

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<v Speaker 2>forty machine gun mounted on a specially designed rotating turret,

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<v Speaker 2>outfitted with an electro optical sensor, proprietary AI and computer

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<v Speaker 2>vision software, and it's designed to deliver small arms fire

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<v Speaker 2>on drone targets with far more precision than the average

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<v Speaker 2>US service member can achieve with a standard issue M

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<v Speaker 2>four carbinder even next generation XM seven rifle. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a computerized drone machine gun with AI and optics that

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<v Speaker 2>sees quote unquote drones coming in blows them out of

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<v Speaker 2>the sky with a machine gun.

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<v Speaker 3>The only I don't doubt this, and we're in a

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<v Speaker 3>different technological time. But I just remember people saying in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighties, smart people saying the next world will be

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<v Speaker 3>a push button warp.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be all robots.

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<v Speaker 3>In this and been an awful lot of human beings

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<v Speaker 3>run straight into gunfire in the past forty years since

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<v Speaker 3>I heard smart people saying that, including today in Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it, and this sounds horrible, but to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it for a second, I think it's similar

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<v Speaker 2>to the question of are we going to have robots

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 2>or human beings manning the drive through at McDonald's or

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>flipping burgers. The availability and cost has changed so much

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>now this stuff seems realistic. It's not going to cost

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<v Speaker 2>you a billion dollars to develop this super mobile eye

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>in the sky machine gun. There'll be a fraction of

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<v Speaker 2>that now, right, But you're right, there will be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the same economics exist, obviously, And if you can

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<v Speaker 3>get some poor Russian dude, a whole bunch of them

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<v Speaker 3>to run straight at a machine gun nest until it.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be a lot cheaper than the robots. I don't know. Yeah,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got a friend in.

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<v Speaker 3>Four countries that are willing to do that. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>willing to do that, so the different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny, and I don't know much about this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have a friend who operated in Europe in

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<v Speaker 2>engineering for a long time, and he says, the Russians

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>this goes back to the Soviet Union days. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>still true. The Russians are great at science and terrible

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>at manufacturing for some reason, so that might be their

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>great disadvantage, whereas we're pretty damn good at both when

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>we get it right. Anyway, the future warfare is changing

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>so rapidly, you know, let's pray we don't find out

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>what the US ultimately does and how we do it

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time on a grand scale. But

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've read a whole bunch of stuff. It was

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<v Speaker 3>in the David Sanger book and the Bob Woodward a book,

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of stuff about this has been the practice

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<v Speaker 3>ground in Ukraine with this war for all kinds of

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 3>different technology and weapons that didn't even exist when this

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<v Speaker 3>thing started.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is the next big.

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<v Speaker 3>War between US and China, and whenever when that comes,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully no times in will be on the back of

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the stuff that's happened in the last

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<v Speaker 3>three years in Ukraine, no doubt.

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>And how long is it until are many, many billions

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>of dollars worth of aircraft carriers are completely obsolete in

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a great power war. I mean they're just like a

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<v Speaker 2>cow and then a field in terms of their vulnerability

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<v Speaker 2>to smart weapons.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 3>And that's been one of our greatest advantages for the

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>past seventy five years. RFK Junior might be crazy about

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 3>some stuff. He's apparently not crazy about fluoride in the water,

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 3>among other things that we can talk about coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay here, so here you go. You've got fourth and

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<v Speaker 2>two banks left, the now taken all can run.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was the play of the year in the NFL.

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen and the Bills running on fourth and two

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>in a game in which the Chiefs almost certainly would

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<v Speaker 3>have won and stayed undefeated if they hadn't made the

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<v Speaker 3>first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, it runs all the way in for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Very exciting.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Several of the most exciting NFL games over the last

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 3>years have been Chiefs Bills games. And at the end,

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I saw mahomes that they caught it on. Mike slap

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen on the head and say I was a

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 3>hell of a play. Let's do it again in January. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm sure they will.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm some extremely athletic, talented, two hundred pounds defensive back,

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stop the game and I'm gonna say,

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>excuse me, excuse me. The quarterback is as big as

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<v Speaker 2>a truck. Is this fair? Is this I'm just asking

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>to be that big and that fast?

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yeah, Mike Tyson could have said that Friday night.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm an old man.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Is it fair? Why are you doing this? Good question?

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<v Speaker 3>So RFK Junior is quite the controversial figure. I mean

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I knew that going in, but taking in a bunch

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 3>of social media over the weekend, there are a whole

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>bunch of you who are really, really, really into the

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 3>idea of RFK Junior taking over the health of America,

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>like it's seems to be among your more important priorities.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I do agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>I tweeted this out over the weekend from the Babylon

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<v Speaker 3>b and the pushback to RFK Jr fattest sickest country

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth, concerned new health secretary might do something different.

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a certain amount of truth to that.

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>With just anytime you try anytime there's a giant problem

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 3>and somebody comes along that's going to interrupt what you

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>have been doing. There's always so much pushback, and we

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 3>use the example of a legal immigration or the tax code, or.

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<v Speaker 6>The way we eat.

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<v Speaker 3>We got every person I know who's got a kid

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<v Speaker 3>with autism or ADHD or anxiety medications they gotta take,

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and we like, we just accept that is okay. I

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 3>guess times change. I guess every family needs to have

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>a kid who needs to be on drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. The question, you know, is,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>is this guy the right shaker upper right, there's the nutjob.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like the tax code. Oh, we better

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>not change anything. No, no, nobody. You mean, there's no

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>human being ever would think this is a good system.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You're completely resistant to changing it.

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<v Speaker 3>To explain, please, yeah, I recognize my logical fallacy that

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 3>because we're unlikely to change these complicated things, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean the first person with any idea to come along

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 3>automatically should be uh considered the answer. But before we

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<v Speaker 3>get to some good stuff about RFK Junior from the

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<v Speaker 3>Washington Post, here's him talking about vaccines over the year,

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<v Speaker 3>keeping over the years, keeping in mind that last week,

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<v Speaker 3>every time a microphone was in his.

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<v Speaker 2>Face, he said, no, I'm not anti vaxx.

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<v Speaker 5>COVID nineteen is targeted to attack Caucasians and a black people.

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 5>The people who are most men are asconagages and Chinese.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you name any vaccines that you think are good?

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<v Speaker 5>I think some of the live iris vaccines are probably

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 5>uh saw of earning more problems than their causing. There's

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 5>no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. I

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 5>do believe that autism does come from vaccines. A mountain

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 5>of scientific study lengths autism too early vaccination with certain vaccines.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 3>So no vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 3>cause autism. It's interesting that a lot of the pushback

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 3>from the left on that, given the fact that my

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 3>entire like radio career, it's been the parents of Marin County,

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 3>the super lefties who have been saying autism is caused

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 3>by vaccines.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's like a direct correlation between that belief and

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Master's degrees are higher in any given zip code.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, so now it's a right wing crazy thing

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 3>as opposed to it was a left wing crazy thing.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, he also wants to get the fluoride out

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 3>of the water, which I heard I still hear heard yesterday.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Any people saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not one of the most successful health programs in

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>world history, Well they're person who writes about this sort

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>of stuff for the Washington Post is AREFK. Junior's views

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 3>on flooride aren't as crazy as you might think, and

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>lists all of the pushback there has been over the years.

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>We've been doing this since nineteen sixty two, by the way,

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 3>putting fluoride in the water, and most states have been

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 3>on board for decades and decades. But there's a whole

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>bunch of countries around the world, like real countries, that

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 3>have decided now, this is not good.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>It can cause all kinds of problems.

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 3>So I just want to point out that on this

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 3>particular topic, it's not nuts that he's going around saying that.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, my own personal level of belief and

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>health authorities was seriously damaged by observing everything that happened

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>during COVID NOA. It became clear no that they listen.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>If we say there are are downsides to this, people

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>won't do it. So let's pretend there are no downsides.

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Saw it running rampant that doesn't mean you have to

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>reject everything all the time in a knee jerk way.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they are willing to trade off good for

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>bad in their perception and then downplay the bad, sometimes

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>at the point of utter dishonesty.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, how about the food pyramid throughout my lifetime and

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>the lies around that are strong and getty