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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and Key Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: California's Central Valley is without question one of the most

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Speaker 1: vital agricultural regions in America, producing seventeen billion dollars worth

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Speaker 1: of crops, twenty five percent of the nation's food supply.

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Speaker 1: And to help grow and harvest those crops, many farmers

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Speaker 1: here rely on undocumented workers. The Department of Agriculture estimates

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Speaker 1: that about half of the hired crop workers do not

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Speaker 1: have legal status. That is estimated to be more than

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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty thousand workers in the Central Valley alone.

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Speaker 3: Thousand workers in the Central Valley alone, that if you

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Speaker 3: followed what recent poling says, sixty percent of America wants

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Speaker 3: would all be booted out of the country. And that

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Speaker 3: would be obviously, if you did that all at once,

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Speaker 3: would be quite the wrecking of the whole agricultural system.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it's not a good idea, though, because you

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Speaker 3: got to have a system of some sort for having workers,

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Speaker 3: and that's the job of Congress to come up with and.

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Speaker 2: Be implied and follow through.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to or not, but

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Speaker 3: Joe and I have been talking about illegal immigration in

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Speaker 3: farm workers for jeez, twenty five years or whatever being

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Speaker 3: on the air, and this very part of the a

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Speaker 3: California in the country that they're talking about on ABC

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Speaker 3: this week, And we used to talk about it all

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Speaker 3: the time when we were only on in the Sacramento area.

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Speaker 3: People wuld always talk, do you want tomatoes to be

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Speaker 3: five dollars? Well, then you know I was going to

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Speaker 3: pick the lettuce. Yeah, exactly. It was always the conversation.

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Speaker 2: And our answer was always somebody or nobody or a machine.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hear from a couple of farmers in the

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Speaker 3: Central Valley and their theories on why you need to

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Speaker 3: have illegals picking.

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Speaker 2: Here's more from ABC this week.

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Speaker 4: We can't afford a labor shortage. Back during Obama, we

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Speaker 4: had a labor shortage and there were times where we

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Speaker 4: actually lost some crop.

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Speaker 1: I think people will look and say, but wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: they're Americans who are unemployed.

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Speaker 2: Why can't you just hire them?

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Speaker 4: They don't want to come out here and work in

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Speaker 4: this extreme conditions one hundred plus degree temperatures, dust, hard work.

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Speaker 2: What if you paid them more, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: You know, we pay some of the highest wages for

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Speaker 4: farm workers in the nation right here in California, and

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Speaker 4: they won't come out.

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Speaker 3: And just so before we have that conversation, here's a

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Speaker 3: different farmer, same question, same topic there.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you pay them.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if you pay twenty six dollars an hour,

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Speaker 5: it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to get up at four or five

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Speaker 3: in the morning, drive to the field and pick fruit.

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Speaker 3: So and the question was, why, uh, why don't you

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Speaker 3: just hire Americans? They won't do it. I don't care

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Speaker 3: what you pay them. They're not going to get up

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Speaker 3: that time of day and come out and do that job.

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Speaker 3: So I don't understand why that isn't a hold on pause,

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Speaker 3: let's have a conversation about that sort of revelation on

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Speaker 3: ABC this week. They just move on to and they

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Speaker 3: see Americans won't do this work, so it makes sense

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Speaker 3: to have illegal brown people do it. What what how

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Speaker 3: do you craft a society like that? How about why

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Speaker 3: would people who are unemployed or underemployed take the option

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Speaker 3: of not doing a job even if it paid really well, right, right?

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Speaker 3: How could they do that? How does that work? How

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Speaker 3: does that find? How are they paying the rent?

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Speaker 6: How are they eat?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you went to family counseling and

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Speaker 2: you said, my children refused to do their chores and

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Speaker 2: the counselor said, well, let's talk about how you can

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Speaker 2: hire someone to do your children's right. No, that's not

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Speaker 2: the right question, right, Yeah, Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 3: But we've been talking about this very topic for decades now.

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Speaker 3: How have we just accepted that people born in this

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Speaker 3: country shouldn't have to do work that's not I don't know,

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Speaker 3: glamorous or kind of hard, or it's outside or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The reason is people don't want to do it. I

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Speaker 3: did that kind of work when I was in high school.

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Speaker 2: Lots of us did. You can't do it in any

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Speaker 2: many Americans did? But is everybody okay with that?

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Speaker 3: Creating a welfare state so lavish that people can choose

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Speaker 3: not to do jobs that they don't find like something

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Speaker 3: they want to do, even if it pays twenty nine

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Speaker 2: This is amusing me for many, many years. The more

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Speaker 2: quote unquote progressive. You are, the more in favor of

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Speaker 2: white people, won't do this work. Let's bring in some

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Speaker 2: of those brown people. I mean, that's the the further

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Speaker 2: borders and let an in person, which I think is hilarious.

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Speaker 3: There's also the unspoken, unstated realization that if millions of

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Speaker 3: people come here and do those jobs they're getting by,

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Speaker 3: they must be able to live somewhere and have a

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Speaker 3: car and eat and you know, do all the things

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Speaker 3: you want to do with a job right by.

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Speaker 2: Definition, Yeah, it's just it's it boils down to a

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Speaker 2: couple of very very simple principles. Number one is the

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Speaker 2: purpose of getting the reins of government is to be

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Speaker 2: able to distribute money from the treasury. Doesn't matter what

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Speaker 2: the system is, they vary in how they do that,

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Speaker 2: but that's the point. And in our system you've got

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Speaker 2: to get a little support from a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Kim Jong un just needs a hell of a lot

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Speaker 2: of support from a fairly small group of people. But

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Speaker 2: in a democracy, you need a little support from a

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot of people. How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: By handing out money? Government benefits you know three and

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Speaker 2: a half dozen different social programs that make sure nobody's

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Speaker 2: going to starve. And so the second, very broad and

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Speaker 2: easy to understand principle is people go for their best alternative.

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Speaker 2: They will do their best option. And for Americans working

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Speaker 2: in a field in the heat and the dust bent

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Speaker 2: over is not nearly their best option. For some Guatemalan

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Speaker 3: I just I don't understand how we got to where

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Speaker 3: we're okay with that, or think that that's a workable

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Speaker 3: plan going forward that doesn't end up with like I've

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Speaker 3: been taking in a lot of French Revolution stuff over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, you know, that sort of society falling apart.

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Speaker 2: I believe the French Revolution is your Roman Empire, although

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Speaker 2: you are quite interested in the Roman Empire as well.

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Speaker 2: It is. So the answer of how we get there

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Speaker 2: is because nobody asks the question, the moral question there,

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Speaker 2: the one that we keep harping on. It's not part

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Speaker 2: of the conversation at all. No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: ABC this week did a long segment on this topic

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Speaker 3: and not a word of Does it seem a little

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Speaker 3: weird to have a society where you've declared certain jobs

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Speaker 3: off limits for your citizens, Like no that's too grungy

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Speaker 3: a job, even at twenty nine dollars an hour.

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Speaker 2: You just don't want to have to do I mean,

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Speaker 2: would you do that with your own kids.

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Speaker 3: I'll keep supporting you, you know, until you're thirty or

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Speaker 3: a past rather than you go do that job.

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Speaker 2: What Yeah, who would live their lives like that? Democracy's

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Speaker 2: end when they realize they can vote themselves money from

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Speaker 2: the treasury. Can you imagine running on the platform. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get you off of your couch and into

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Speaker 6: Good luck with a right.

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Speaker 2: We're a soft decade country.

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Speaker 3: That's just that's it, we really are, which is what

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Speaker 3: France was when they fell apart. Not to get back

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Speaker 3: to the revolution, but and then here they wrapped up

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Speaker 3: the conversation with this portion.

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Speaker 1: Deporting undocumented workers in California is complicated. The state enacted

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Speaker 1: a measure in twenty seventeen that prevents state resources from

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Speaker 1: being used for federal immigration enforcement. And while that law

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Speaker 1: varies by city and county, California is the sanctuary city

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Speaker 1: capital of America, with dozens of cities and counties protecting

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Speaker 3: So that's a problem. I mean it all fits together

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Speaker 3: as part of a puzzle. I hate the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: But if you're going to accept I'm not, but apparently

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Speaker 3: we have accepted that our American born people shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: to do those jobs. Well, then you're gonna have to

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Speaker 3: have illegals here. And then if you're gonna have illegals here,

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Speaker 3: you can't have them being deported. So you got to

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Speaker 3: be a sanctuary county. I mean, it all fits together, or.

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Speaker 2: You just admit all of the above and you design

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Speaker 2: a temporary worker program, which is what Congress should do.

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Speaker 3: Also not a part of the conversation where they said, well,

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Speaker 3: if you want it to be this way, and apparently

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Speaker 3: people do well, then Congress needs to sit down and

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Speaker 3: come up with a very complex system for workers or

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Speaker 3: making these people citizens or whatever it is you're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: But you got to come up with a plan.

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Speaker 3: The all the arguments I seem to see on the

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Speaker 3: Sunday talk shows, nobody was offering anything other than continuing

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Speaker 3: to just randomly let people come in buy the millions,

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Speaker 3: come and go buy the millions, not know who they are.

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Speaker 3: Martha Radditt's even admitted to whoever was pushing back on

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Speaker 3: this story. There are six hundred thousand known criminals, not

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Speaker 3: the crime of being illegal, but like other crimes from

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Speaker 3: Mexico or Venezuela, six hundred thousand criminals in the United

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Speaker 3: States right now we don't know where they are, what

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Speaker 3: kind of who does that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah it is. It's self destructive.

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Speaker 2: It's horrible because we won't get to the root questions

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Speaker 2: and the final annoying reality I'd like to trot out there.

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Speaker 2: This is why I don't get many invitations to dinner parties.

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Speaker 2: Oh you invited, mister annoying reality. Oh good. Is The

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Speaker 2: Left raises money from soft heads, in my opinion, with

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Speaker 2: their no human being is illegal, bill bridges, not walls, nonsense,

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Speaker 2: and the Right raises money on boot them all out,

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Speaker 2: seal the borders, and to say we're going to craft

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Speaker 2: a guest worker program that's gonna let one point one

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Speaker 2: million people in temporarily, we'll keep tracking them, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: a streamline the course. That's just you can't raise money

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Speaker 2: on that. It's too complicated. The devil is in the details,

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Speaker 2: and there's always plenty to anger. You know, virtually everybody

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Speaker 2: in the discussion. So I don't know. I don't mean

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Speaker 2: to be discouraging, but as long as small money donations

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Speaker 3: I'm just appalled by the idea. I've always cringed when

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Speaker 3: anybody says those are jobs Americans won't do. That makes

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Speaker 3: me cringe. You cannot be a strong, functioning, successful society

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Speaker 3: if you've decided certain jobs are off limits to your citizens.

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Speaker 2: That's sickening as a notion. That's how empires fall back

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Speaker 2: to Rome. Or if you'd prefer, I assume, with your

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Speaker 2: French Revolution passion, you'd like to say, see guillotines all

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Speaker 3: Did everybody see highlights of Trump rolling into that WWE

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Speaker 3: First of all, the fact again that Elon is a

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Speaker 2: Oh he did not look overly pleased. He did not.

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Speaker 2: How long can it last?

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Speaker 2: Dang it? I wonder too. I wonder too.

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Speaker 3: Axios is reporting a blow up between Elon and one

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, everybody, everybody keep cool, remember our manners.

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Speaker 2: All right, generous listening, et cetera. Yeah, right, armstrong and getty.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's really funny delivery too. That one made me

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Speaker 3: One of the great things that's going to come out

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Speaker 3: I've never looked into it myself, but it's not insane.

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Speaker 2: I remember that argument slash conversation from my youth as

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Speaker 2: about various developments in war and peace, speaking of which,

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Speaker 3: But we were on a boat in Hawaii and we

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Speaker 3: But I thought, what is this doing in my head?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the point of this article is you got a

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Speaker 2: the Navy has created boats so powerful that riding in

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Speaker 2: is the future of unmanned war is clearly the future

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Speaker 3: Russia had the deadliest month last month they've had the

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Speaker 2: many guys to the machine guns as they need to

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Speaker 2: from you know, World War two on or before that

439
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Speaker 2: even but they have now offered higher salaries and bonuses,

440
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Speaker 2: and in some of the country's poorest regions, the military

441
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Speaker 2: wage is as much as five times the average wage. Wow,

442
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Speaker 2: five times plus if you die on the front line,

443
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Speaker 2: your family receives a big compensation payment from the government.

444
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Speaker 2: And so it's life changing for your family.

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Speaker 3: So it wouldn't only be patriotic to whatever extent they're

446
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Speaker 3: patriotic about it.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, it could change your family's trajectory. So they say,

448
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Speaker 2: family of a thirty five year old man who fights

449
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Speaker 2: for a year and is then killed on the battlefield

450
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Speaker 2: would receive the equivalent out of one hundred and fifty

451
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. That's more than he would have earned cumulatively

452
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Speaker 2: working as a civilian until the age of sixty in

453
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Speaker 2: some regions. Wow, that is so again, either twenty five

454
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Speaker 2: years of work or you get killed on the battlefield

455
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Speaker 2: of Ukraine and you get it right up front, not

456
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Speaker 2: to mention other bonuses and insurance payments too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much they count on that money

458
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Speaker 3: actually coming to them. I don't have any sense of

459
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Speaker 3: if Russia usually follows through on those promises or not.

460
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Speaker 2: I think they do. But anyway, you made the point about,

461
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Speaker 2: you know, willingness to feed people the machine gun fire.

462
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Speaker 2: Here's another headline. Killer robots are about to fill Ukrainian skies.

463
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Speaker 2: Kiev's drone suppliers are ramping up production of computer guided

464
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Speaker 2: drones that are cheap and can't be electronically jammed, and

465
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: I guarantee are Pentagon and Darper or at least for

466
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Speaker 2: God's sake, they are studying these drones and their designs

467
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Speaker 2: and the production of them and that sort of thing.

468
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: This is going to completely change the face of infantry.

469
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Speaker 2: And then finally this, I thought this was so interesting.

470
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Speaker 2: This is actually from Wired dot com. The AI machine

471
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Speaker 2: gun of the future is already here. It's a robotic

472
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Speaker 2: twist on its standard issue small arms. Amid a rising

473
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Speaker 2: tide of low cost weaponized adversary drones menacing American troops abroad.

474
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Speaker 2: The US is pulling out all the stops to protect

475
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Speaker 2: its forces from the ever present threat of death from above.

476
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Speaker 2: But between expensive munitions, futuristic but complicated directed energy weapons,

477
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Speaker 2: and its own growing drone arsenal, the Pentagon is increasingly

478
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Speaker 2: eyeing an elegantly simple solution to the growing drone problem,

479
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Speaker 2: reinventing the gun, and the Defense Department is testing an

480
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence enabled autonomous robotic gun system develop by a

481
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Speaker 2: new defense contractor, Allen Control Systems, dubbed the Bullfrog. It

482
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Speaker 2: consists of a seven point sixty two millimeter M two

483
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Speaker 2: forty machine gun mounted on a specially designed rotating turret,

484
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Speaker 2: outfitted with an electro optical sensor, proprietary AI and computer

485
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: vision software, and it's designed to deliver small arms fire

486
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Speaker 2: on drone targets with far more precision than the average

487
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Speaker 2: US service member can achieve with a standard issue M

488
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Speaker 2: four carbinder even next generation XM seven rifle. So it's

489
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: a computerized drone machine gun with AI and optics that

490
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Speaker 2: sees quote unquote drones coming in blows them out of

491
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Speaker 2: the sky with a machine gun.

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Speaker 3: The only I don't doubt this, and we're in a

493
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Speaker 3: different technological time. But I just remember people saying in

494
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Speaker 3: the eighties, smart people saying the next world will be

495
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Speaker 3: a push button warp.

496
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Speaker 2: It'll be all robots.

497
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Speaker 3: In this and been an awful lot of human beings

498
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Speaker 3: run straight into gunfire in the past forty years since

499
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Speaker 3: I heard smart people saying that, including today in Russia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it, and this sounds horrible, but to

501
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Speaker 2: think about it for a second, I think it's similar

502
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Speaker 2: to the question of are we going to have robots

503
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Speaker 2: or human beings manning the drive through at McDonald's or

504
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: flipping burgers. The availability and cost has changed so much

505
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: now this stuff seems realistic. It's not going to cost

506
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: you a billion dollars to develop this super mobile eye

507
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Speaker 2: in the sky machine gun. There'll be a fraction of

508
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: that now, right, But you're right, there will be.

509
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the same economics exist, obviously, And if you can

510
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: get some poor Russian dude, a whole bunch of them

511
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Speaker 3: to run straight at a machine gun nest until it.

512
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Speaker 2: Might be a lot cheaper than the robots. I don't know. Yeah,

513
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Speaker 2: I've got a friend in.

514
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Four countries that are willing to do that. We're not

515
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: willing to do that, so the different.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, and I don't know much about this,

517
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: but I have a friend who operated in Europe in

518
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: engineering for a long time, and he says, the Russians

519
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: this goes back to the Soviet Union days. But it's

520
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: still true. The Russians are great at science and terrible

521
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: at manufacturing for some reason, so that might be their

522
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: great disadvantage, whereas we're pretty damn good at both when

523
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: we get it right. Anyway, the future warfare is changing

524
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: so rapidly, you know, let's pray we don't find out

525
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: what the US ultimately does and how we do it

526
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: for a very long time on a grand scale. But

527
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Speaker 2: who knows.

528
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read a whole bunch of stuff. It was

529
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: in the David Sanger book and the Bob Woodward a book,

530
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff about this has been the practice

531
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Speaker 3: ground in Ukraine with this war for all kinds of

532
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 3: different technology and weapons that didn't even exist when this

533
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: thing started.

534
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Speaker 2: So it is the next big.

535
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Speaker 3: War between US and China, and whenever when that comes,

536
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: hopefully no times in will be on the back of

537
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Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that's happened in the last

538
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Speaker 3: three years in Ukraine, no doubt.

539
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Speaker 2: And how long is it until are many, many billions

540
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: of dollars worth of aircraft carriers are completely obsolete in

541
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Speaker 2: a great power war. I mean they're just like a

542
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: cow and then a field in terms of their vulnerability

543
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Speaker 2: to smart weapons.

544
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Speaker 3: And that's been one of our greatest advantages for the

545
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Speaker 3: past seventy five years. RFK Junior might be crazy about

546
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: some stuff. He's apparently not crazy about fluoride in the water,

547
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Speaker 3: among other things that we can talk about coming up.

548
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: Stay here, so here you go. You've got fourth and

549
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Speaker 2: two banks left, the now taken all can run.

550
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Speaker 6: And that was the play of the year in the NFL.

551
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and the Bills running on fourth and two

552
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: in a game in which the Chiefs almost certainly would

553
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Speaker 3: have won and stayed undefeated if they hadn't made the

554
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: first time.

555
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Yay, it runs all the way in for a touchdown.

556
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Very exciting.

557
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Several of the most exciting NFL games over the last

558
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: years have been Chiefs Bills games. And at the end,

559
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: I saw mahomes that they caught it on. Mike slap

560
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: Josh Allen on the head and say I was a

561
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: hell of a play. Let's do it again in January. Yeah,

562
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Speaker 3: which I'm sure they will.

563
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: If I'm some extremely athletic, talented, two hundred pounds defensive back,

564
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to stop the game and I'm gonna say,

565
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: excuse me, excuse me. The quarterback is as big as

566
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Speaker 2: a truck. Is this fair? Is this I'm just asking

567
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: to be that big and that fast?

568
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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, Mike Tyson could have said that Friday night.

569
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Speaker 3: I'm an old man.

570
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Speaker 2: Is it fair? Why are you doing this? Good question?

571
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Speaker 3: So RFK Junior is quite the controversial figure. I mean

572
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: I knew that going in, but taking in a bunch

573
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Speaker 3: of social media over the weekend, there are a whole

574
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Speaker 3: bunch of you who are really, really, really into the

575
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: idea of RFK Junior taking over the health of America,

576
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: like it's seems to be among your more important priorities.

577
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Now I do agree with.

578
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: I tweeted this out over the weekend from the Babylon

579
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Speaker 3: b and the pushback to RFK Jr fattest sickest country

580
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: on Earth, concerned new health secretary might do something different.

581
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: There's a certain amount of truth to that.

582
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: With just anytime you try anytime there's a giant problem

583
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: and somebody comes along that's going to interrupt what you

584
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: have been doing. There's always so much pushback, and we

585
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Speaker 3: use the example of a legal immigration or the tax code, or.

586
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Speaker 6: The way we eat.

587
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: We got every person I know who's got a kid

588
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: with autism or ADHD or anxiety medications they gotta take,

589
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: and we like, we just accept that is okay. I

590
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: guess times change. I guess every family needs to have

591
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Speaker 3: a kid who needs to be on drugs.

592
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: What Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. The question, you know, is,

593
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: is this guy the right shaker upper right, there's the nutjob.

594
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like the tax code. Oh, we better

595
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: not change anything. No, no, nobody. You mean, there's no

596
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: human being ever would think this is a good system.

597
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: You're completely resistant to changing it.

598
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: To explain, please, yeah, I recognize my logical fallacy that

599
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: because we're unlikely to change these complicated things, it doesn't

600
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Speaker 3: mean the first person with any idea to come along

601
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: automatically should be uh considered the answer. But before we

602
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: get to some good stuff about RFK Junior from the

603
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Speaker 3: Washington Post, here's him talking about vaccines over the year,

604
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Speaker 3: keeping over the years, keeping in mind that last week,

605
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Speaker 3: every time a microphone was in his.

606
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Speaker 2: Face, he said, no, I'm not anti vaxx.

607
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Speaker 5: COVID nineteen is targeted to attack Caucasians and a black people.

608
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: The people who are most men are asconagages and Chinese.

609
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Speaker 2: Can you name any vaccines that you think are good?

610
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Speaker 5: I think some of the live iris vaccines are probably

611
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: uh saw of earning more problems than their causing. There's

612
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. I

613
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 5: do believe that autism does come from vaccines. A mountain

614
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: of scientific study lengths autism too early vaccination with certain vaccines.

615
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: So no vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines

616
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Speaker 3: cause autism. It's interesting that a lot of the pushback

617
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: from the left on that, given the fact that my

618
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: entire like radio career, it's been the parents of Marin County,

619
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: the super lefties who have been saying autism is caused

620
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Speaker 3: by vaccines.

621
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a direct correlation between that belief and

622
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: Master's degrees are higher in any given zip code.

623
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so now it's a right wing crazy thing

624
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: as opposed to it was a left wing crazy thing.

625
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: But anyway, he also wants to get the fluoride out

626
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: of the water, which I heard I still hear heard yesterday.

627
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: Any people saying.

628
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: That's not one of the most successful health programs in

629
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Speaker 3: world history, Well they're person who writes about this sort

630
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: of stuff for the Washington Post is AREFK. Junior's views

631
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: on flooride aren't as crazy as you might think, and

632
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: lists all of the pushback there has been over the years.

633
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: We've been doing this since nineteen sixty two, by the way,

634
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: putting fluoride in the water, and most states have been

635
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: on board for decades and decades. But there's a whole

636
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: bunch of countries around the world, like real countries, that

637
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: have decided now, this is not good.

638
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: It can cause all kinds of problems.

639
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: So I just want to point out that on this

640
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 3: particular topic, it's not nuts that he's going around saying that.

641
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, my own personal level of belief and

642
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: health authorities was seriously damaged by observing everything that happened

643
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: during COVID NOA. It became clear no that they listen.

644
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: If we say there are are downsides to this, people

645
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: won't do it. So let's pretend there are no downsides.

646
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Saw it running rampant that doesn't mean you have to

647
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: reject everything all the time in a knee jerk way.

648
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, they are willing to trade off good for

649
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: bad in their perception and then downplay the bad, sometimes

650
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: at the point of utter dishonesty.

651
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Speaker 3: Well, how about the food pyramid throughout my lifetime and

652
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: the lies around that are strong and getty