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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts training camp daily on a Thursday

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Speaker 1: here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: We're live here at Graham Park, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Course and Fire in Security. I'm Matt Taylor with JJ Stangowitz.

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Speaker 1: Following practice number ten for the Indianapolis Colts. They worked

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Speaker 1: out briefly today for an hour from ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Had to move from outside to inside. So much rain

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Speaker 1: and nasty weather over the course of Wednesday night and

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Speaker 1: the Thursday forced everything inside because of slippery and unstable

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Speaker 1: playing conditions outside. But thought some really good work got

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Speaker 1: done here today JJ, only for an hour inside. Kind

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Speaker 1: of a lighter day going into that first preseason game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. We saw Anthony Richardson back with the first

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Speaker 1: team offense and we found out after practice he's going

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Speaker 1: to be the guy. He's going to start the game

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Speaker 1: at quarterback on Saturday against the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt chainstake and said, Anthony Richardson will start. He

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Speaker 3: will play with the first team offense for about a

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Speaker 3: quarter is what is to be expected. That could always

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Speaker 3: be altered depending on how things go, but roughly a quarter.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Chansticken wants to see him out there

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Speaker 3: with these guys and this is this is a test

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Speaker 3: for him, right Chris Ballard said it at the start

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Speaker 3: of training camp. The real growth for Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 3: going to come in these games where it is live.

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Speaker 3: He can get hit. There's no red jersey on here

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Speaker 3: we go. Now, He's gonna be out there with the

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Speaker 3: first team offense. He's gonna be throwing to Michael Pittman

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Speaker 3: Junior at Alex Pearce. He's gonna have Quinton Nelson and

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Speaker 3: Ryan Kelly blocking for him. He's gonna, you know, be

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Speaker 3: able to throw the ball to Kylon Granson. You know,

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Speaker 3: I guess running back is a little more muddled, but

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Speaker 3: I you know, probably do a lot of hands off,

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Speaker 3: hand off Toevan Hall, Kenyan Drake, some of those guys.

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Speaker 3: This is it here now, This is even if it's

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Speaker 3: just a quarter and it's just his first preseason game.

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Speaker 3: I know I've talked about it, but this stretch starting

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Speaker 3: Saturday and running through the final preseason game in Philly

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Speaker 3: is twelve days, three games and three joint practices. This

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Speaker 3: is where you're gonna see that separation occur, I think,

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Speaker 3: and the Colts really figure out who their Week one

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback is going to be.

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Speaker 1: And I know the this is going to sound pretty elementary,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a big deal considering his lack

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Speaker 1: and just the fact that he's a rookie and he's

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Speaker 1: never played on an NFL game field. The fact, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is going to run with the first team

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Speaker 1: offense at some point in this game. At least I

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Speaker 1: would assume that to be the case. But just the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's going to start the game, right, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the first quarterback of the first series

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Speaker 1: of the first quarter. I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: merit to that build up that and that adrenaline and

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Speaker 1: get the butterflies going a little bit pregame. If he

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Speaker 1: starts Week one of the regular season, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: he's going to feel that same experience.

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Speaker 3: That's a really good point, just the mentality of it, right,

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Speaker 3: the emotions that come with it, because you Shane Stikeen

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Speaker 3: knows how Gardner Minshew's going to handle that.

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Speaker 2: We've seen it, he's seen it.

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Speaker 3: You know, the couple of games that Gardner started in

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Speaker 3: Philly obviously started a lot in Jacksonville. You don't know

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Speaker 3: that with Anthony Richardson yet. You know, you can see

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Speaker 3: But now, okay, now we get to see when you

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Speaker 3: get out of there, you know, you get out of

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Speaker 3: Anthony said, you know, yeah, I'll probably be a little

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Speaker 3: litle bit nervous, but that's to be expected. How do

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Speaker 3: you channel those nerves into something positive. That's all part

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Speaker 3: of the experience, it is, right, Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 3: Anthony this experience, and that's what we're gonna see.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: What else did Shane Styken say post practice about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like about a quarter. You know, we'll see

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Speaker 3: some of the statuses of guys who have not been

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Speaker 3: Jelannie Woods, mo Aley Cox, Drew Ogletree, and Will Mallory.

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Speaker 3: Those guys have not practiced. I think Drew left Tuesday's practice,

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Speaker 1: First time all camp. We didn't have the same five guys.

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Speaker 3: say Brandon for last there, just because that is probably

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Speaker 3: Anthony playing behind the same five guys that he'd been

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Speaker 3: playing behind. Who's we've been with the first team offense.

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Speaker 3: But uh, for the most part, though, you'd expect those

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Speaker 3: Blake Freeland was in there, you know, and the Colts

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Speaker 3: drafted him out of By you think, and he'd be

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Speaker 3: valuable reps for Blake Freeland. I don't know what Buffalo

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Speaker 3: saw Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs are not going to

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Speaker 3: so he's still on pop So you're definitely not gonna

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Speaker 3: see Von Miller. You know, just some some of those

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Speaker 2: We'll see if we see like Shaq loss In right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, And then the other big question to see is

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Speaker 3: does Shaq Leonard play for the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting thing to kind of

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Speaker 3: follow because he's been cleared for everything else exactly. But

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Speaker 3: we did hear from Shane Stick and he was asked

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Speaker 3: you know, we'll kind of talk through that. I didn't

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Speaker 3: get totally impression that Shaq would play, but again, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: The Colts are going to be smart about it, and

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Speaker 3: if he can go, they're gonna let him play, but

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Speaker 3: that still is probably an if at this point.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's JJ Stankowitz. By the way, I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: We're at Graham Park. Brought to you by Course and

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Speaker 1: Fire and Security. The Colts first unofficial depth chart came

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Speaker 1: out earlier this week ahead of that first preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills. Other than Minshew and Richardson, anything

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Speaker 1: else stand out to you about the depth chart on offense?

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Speaker 3: Not really. You know, obviously the gardner Minshew or Anthony

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Speaker 3: done that before.

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Speaker 1: Your top your top not to cut you off, but

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Speaker 1: at each position. You did have Mike Strawn break the

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Speaker 3: And that kind of goes back to something we've talked about,

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Speaker 3: whether it's been on this show on the Colts Official podcast,

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Speaker 3: is do you keep six wide receivers on this team?

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Speaker 3: These preseason games are going to be big to figure

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Speaker 3: that out, right, you know, do you keep someone beyond

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Speaker 3: the Pierce Pittman, Mackenzie Downs dueling group, right, and Mike

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Speaker 3: Strawn's got to still earn it, but you know, you're right,

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Speaker 3: he definitely is up in that top six which you

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Speaker 2: Other than that, you know, not a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is surprising you know, we've both been

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Speaker 3: and I don't think there was anything truly surprising on

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Speaker 2: What about defense?

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Speaker 1: Obviously to me, what I what stood out to me

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Speaker 1: A little surprised there about the depth behind the Forest

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Speaker 3: That's kind of status quo what I thought. You know,

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Speaker 3: where does Nick Cross line up? Do you line him

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Speaker 1: You know at running back, JJ Stangobitz right there, I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor running back. Kind of thin right now. The

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Speaker 1: Colts made a roster move yesterday. Jason Huntley comes over,

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Speaker 1: so he was actually practicing today. By the way, Deon

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Speaker 1: but he's missed the last couple of days with an injury.

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Speaker 1: So you got Zach Moss, Jonathan Taylor still on pup now,

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Speaker 1: Deon Jackson. I mean, going into camp, those were your

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have to play, and going into the regular

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Speaker 1: season now, I mean, if you played a game tomorrow

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Speaker 1: that that counted, Evan Hole was probably in the mix

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of time in a big role

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Speaker 1: with that first team offense. What kind of opportunities does

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Speaker 1: this add for you know, Kenyon Drake and Xavier Scott

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's huge for Evan Hall. Like of

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Speaker 3: as big fix.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a catch twenty two with him though,

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Speaker 6: Well, that's that's kind of what brings you to with

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Speaker 5: You know, he's seen I mean, he's been in this

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Speaker 5: Honestly, I mean just trying to keep that confidence. You know,

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Speaker 5: once he just had to get comfortable a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Like so you can kind of tell he's comfortable his teammates.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a he's a physical freak out there.

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Speaker 5: Like you can see he six two hundred and fifty pounds.

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Speaker 5: He's running a four to ford like. He's a physical

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Speaker 5: freaking throw the ball eighty yards, which is crazy. Like,

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Speaker 5: but I love having both of those guys as teammates.

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Speaker 5: Both of them are good dudes. They love their guys

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Speaker 5: out there, you know, and they keep everybody going. They

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Speaker 5: got they rally everybody in and they get us going.

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Speaker 4: I got one off the football field for you. You

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Speaker 4: went to Duke University, obviously a great institution. Have you

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Speaker 4: ever spent the night in coach Kville. No, never in

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Speaker 4: a tent. It was never that that.

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Speaker 5: It's not that easy though, like you, it's a it's

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Speaker 5: a long process that you have to do to be

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Speaker 5: able to even do that, Like you have to take

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Speaker 5: like a Duke history like they have like a test

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Speaker 5: that you have to pass in order for you to

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Speaker 5: be able to sleep. You can't just go out there,

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Speaker 5: like there's tests and everything like that, Like you have

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Speaker 5: to study like Duke basketball history and like history, and

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Speaker 5: you have to pass to be able to stay out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and they have them like I don't I don't want

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Speaker 5: to know if they're weekly, but they have them periodically,

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Speaker 5: and like if you fail, then you got to leave.

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Speaker 5: Like you can't stay out there. So it's not just easy.

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Speaker 5: You can't just go and just put a tin up there,

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Speaker 5: Like it's a whole process to be able to stay

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 4: Hey, damn, you put up some numbers at Duke, so

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Speaker 4: that wasn't a problem for you. They flipped you a

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Speaker 4: ticket about seven eight o'clock. Tip, there's d all right there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: got his ticket. I know how it rolls over there,

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Speaker 4: and do good for you. I appreciate the time. Best

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Speaker 4: of luck this year, keep up grinding. We love watching it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That's Deon Jackson at Colts camp earlier today, Jeffrey Gorman,

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Speaker 1: Casey Valier. We're back here with JJ Stegowitz at Graham

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Speaker 1: Park recapping practice number ten for the Colts.

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Speaker 2: That's in the.

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Speaker 1: Books Tomorrow Friday is an off day. Colts and Bills

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, that first preseason game. You know, Deon Jackson

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Speaker 1: talked earlier in camp. I didn't realize this. He was

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in high school and a darn good

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Speaker 1: one the prep level and then had to move to

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Speaker 1: running back out of necessity with his high school football

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Speaker 1: team that had some injuries, and they kind of looked

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Speaker 1: at him and they said, hey, you're an athlete. You're

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Speaker 1: kind of a bigger guy. You can handle this running

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Speaker 1: back situation. Made the switch. Obviously it's worked out very

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Speaker 1: well now playing in the National Football League. But I

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Speaker 1: just go back to whatever week that was last year,

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Speaker 1: Week six, I think against the Jaguars had ten catches,

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Speaker 1: I mean game. Yeah, a very deceptively good pass catcher

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Listen, we don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to go on with Jonathan Taylor. We don't know if

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss is going to be back in time for

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Speaker 1: the regular season. But I think Deon Jackson can carry

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Speaker 1: the football fifteen times a game and can be very

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Speaker 1: effective out of the backfield catching the football in the

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Speaker 1: passing game.

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Speaker 3: Even you remember that Denver game last year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of Colts fans probably want to forget it,

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Speaker 3: but in that game, Deon Jackson jins.

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Speaker 2: Goes out early. Right, let's got hurt early.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor wasn't playing, and all of a sudden. Deon

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Speaker 3: Jackson was the next man up. He had some runs

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Speaker 3: in that game. You're like, hey, he's got a little

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Speaker 3: juice to it. You know, he can he can play

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Speaker 3: a little bit, right. You're you're hopeful that he can

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Speaker 3: see a little more opportunity this year. But you know, again,

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Speaker 3: like everyone else in that running back room, you got

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Speaker 3: to go earn it. And it is a wide open

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Speaker 3: competition right now, because again, yeah, you don't know what's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen with the two guys who you went into

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Speaker 3: the season thinking they're at the top of your depth.

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Speaker 2: Charge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with Jonathan Taylor still on pup. Okay, when

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Speaker 1: the Colts take the field Saturday, jaj what makes it

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Speaker 1: a success? We talk with Rick vent Turrey earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week. He doesn't worry about the score. He's got

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Speaker 1: his own scoring system based on quarter.

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Speaker 2: But for me, you know, you kind of equate.

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Speaker 1: It to like an old school like high school football

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Speaker 1: or middle school football.

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Speaker 2: Jamboree and the jamboree.

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Speaker 1: You just want to have good execution, No you do,

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Speaker 1: I mean right, You want to be able to take

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Speaker 1: the play from the sideline, communicate that to the huddle,

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Speaker 1: get everybody lined up correctly, no procedural airs, no jumping

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Speaker 1: off sides. I mean that to me is the benchmark

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Speaker 1: of a successful first preseason game in the NFL. As

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Speaker 1: elementary as that sounds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally the most boring answer you could give,

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Speaker 3: but it's the right one. It's does Anthony Richardson go

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Speaker 3: and you know, make his reads and throws on toime?

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Speaker 2: Does he look beyond competent? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the splash plays from him. You might

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Speaker 3: see a sixty yard bomb downfield, and you know that's

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Speaker 3: going to matter too, you know, if he connects with

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Speaker 3: you know, Alec Pierce or Ashton Dulan or someone on

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Speaker 3: that for those guys to know, Yeah, Anthony can get

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Speaker 3: the ball off this deep. But for the most part,

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Speaker 3: you want to see the ball out on time. You

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Speaker 3: want to see some of the pocket navigation stuff that

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Speaker 3: Anthony really should go at Florida show up now that

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Speaker 3: he's going to be live again with live contact, right,

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Speaker 3: and you want to see no procedural penalties. Obviously the

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Speaker 3: biggest thing is no injuries. You want to come out

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Speaker 3: of this game clean. But yeah, it's really kind of

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Speaker 3: the boring stuff in this game that the coaches are

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Speaker 3: looking for. That's what Jim Bob Cooter told us on Monday.

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Speaker 3: He's looking for just you know, operational stuff, you know,

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Speaker 3: timing accuracy, things like that. The splash plays are gonna come,

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Speaker 3: the big runs, the big throws are gonna come. We

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Speaker 3: know that, We've seen it enough up here at Grind

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Speaker 3: Park to know that's going to happen. But can he

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Speaker 3: handle the mental workload and again to go back to it,

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Speaker 3: can he handle the nerves of it, yep? And channel

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Speaker 3: that into something positive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be hyped up, you know that,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to be hyped up to bring it

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Speaker 1: to television wise, locally, you can watch the game on

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Speaker 1: CBS four and then radio, We've got you covered on

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Speaker 1: the Bell Tire Radio Network and locally in Indianapolis on

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Speaker 1: ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan

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Speaker 1: and ninety seven to one Hank FM. Pregame coverage on

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Speaker 1: radio starts at ten. Countdown to kickoff begins at noon,

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Speaker 1: and Colts and Bill's on Saturday starting at one o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the preseason and JJ after the game yourself and

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Speaker 1: Bill Brooks, you guys got instant reaction back.

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Speaker 3: Right, yep, we'll land back from Buffalo and right well,

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Speaker 3: go home and get in front of a microphone and

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Speaker 3: I'll go talk with Bill. And I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 2: I love doing that show with Bill.

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Speaker 3: I always feel like I learned something from talking with,

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Speaker 3: you know, one of the greats of this franchise about

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Speaker 3: football and just ball and what he sees. So those

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Speaker 3: are always fun to do. I hope everyone who listens

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Speaker 3: to them enjoys listening to them as much as I

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Speaker 3: enjoy putting.

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Speaker 2: Him together, No doubt. We look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up after the game on Saturday night, all right,

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Speaker 1: that I'll do it here for Grand Park Practice number

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Speaker 1: ten for JJ Stegovitz.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Casey Valier, Jeffrey Gorman, Deon Jackson earlier

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Speaker 1: as well, and we will talk to you Saturday in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everybody here on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: So long