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Speaker 2: Radio Radio Live the Dream once again here on a

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Speaker 2: spectacular Saturday of sports. This is Fox Sports Saturday, and

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Speaker 2: we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Very

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Speaker 2: busy day, very busy day, because we had a lot

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Speaker 2: of things to cover over a very short amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Jeff is back, and Jeff, I tell you what, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to open the show today with something a little off,

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Speaker 2: and that was you know, you know me, Jeff, I'm

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Speaker 2: a big history buff when it comes to sports, and

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Speaker 2: the passing today of the Cobra Dave Parker sort of

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Speaker 2: hit home for me. For many of you listening out there,

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Speaker 2: you really don't know the name Dave Parker. It's a

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Speaker 2: different generation. Seventies into the mid eighties. He passed away today.

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Speaker 2: It just goten elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: by the Veterans Committee in December. Unfortunately, come he had

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Speaker 2: suffered from Parkinson's Jeff, I know since at least twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: I interviewed him, I'm going to say probably about seven

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Speaker 2: or eight years ago, and he was already struggling health wise,

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Speaker 2: but he was, you know, obviously very excited. He talked

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Speaker 2: about crying when he found out he got into the

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Speaker 2: Baseball Hall of Fame. He was a guy that had

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Speaker 2: so much talent. I mean when we use that overused

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Speaker 2: five tool player, and this guy really was a five

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Speaker 2: tool player. I mean he was a two time batting champion,

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Speaker 2: was a huge guy, had power, He could run the bases.

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Speaker 2: He had a throwing arm second to none. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this guy famous for his throw at the All Star Game,

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Speaker 2: Believe in nineteen seventy nine, throwing out Brian Downey of

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Speaker 2: the Angels at home plate. I mean, this guy had everything,

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Speaker 2: and then he got derailed at the heigh of his

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Speaker 2: career with a cocaine addiction. And then he was able

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Speaker 2: to clean up and revitalize his career, great years in

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Speaker 2: the mid eighties with the Reds, and then you know,

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Speaker 2: a very valuable member of the when they want a

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Speaker 2: World Series. So you know, I just wanted to throw

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Speaker 2: it out. They was a nice man. You know, I

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Speaker 2: thought for years he got screwed over by the Baseball

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame joined the club. I mean, I get

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Speaker 2: so irate when it comes to the Baseball Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame and the exclusion of people like Barry Bonds and

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Speaker 2: Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez and Sammy Sosa,

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Speaker 2: Mark Maguire. The list goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: But this guy was deserving. I'm just happy he lived

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Speaker 2: long enough to enjoy the moment to know that he

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Speaker 2: had indeed, rightfully so been elected to the Baseball Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Did he not make the Hall of Fame originally because

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Speaker 3: of the cocaine stuff? Because the Hall of Fame is

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Speaker 3: at least baseball feels very upity like that, yep, where

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Speaker 3: if you have any sort of problems that they don't deem,

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Speaker 3: you know, worthy of being a Hall of Famer, they

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Speaker 3: just won't vote you in. And it does frustrate me

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Speaker 3: about baseball a lot because I'm an avid baseball I'm

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Speaker 3: watching my unfortunately my Giants just stink uh in Chicago today,

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Speaker 3: but I watch as much baseball as I can. And

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame process always frustrated me because in my era,

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Speaker 3: basically scape goat Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens when every

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Speaker 3: one of that era will tell you the best player

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Speaker 3: is Barry Bonds. Like the players do not care. They

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Speaker 3: because most of them I think we're on steroids. Do

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Speaker 3: But the point is, like they will tell you, to

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Speaker 3: best player was Bury Bond, steroids or not. And then

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Speaker 3: we let in other players into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: who very clearly used performing the enhancing drugs. But they're

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Speaker 3: they they're likable, yes, And it's it's sad because you know,

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Speaker 3: recently inducted to the Hall of Fame who played better

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Speaker 3: in their late thirties than their mid twenties, and but

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Speaker 3: it's like that's not the way it's supposed to go.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't, if you do not take peds, the

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Speaker 3: didn't happen, right, Guys were well into their mid thirties,

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Speaker 3: of Fame just seems like it's if we like you

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Speaker 3: to the point where I think just too many guys

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Speaker 3: I don't. I watched you play.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever think at what point of Scott Rowland's

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Speaker 2: career there's a future famer, I mean, Billy Wagner Hall

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Speaker 2: I mean it just I mean, what has happened and

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Speaker 2: and I got a hunt him because apparently the one

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Speaker 2: Carlos Beltrn And I'm like, wait a second. So this

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Speaker 2: guy's last year with the Houston Astros, he recognized as

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Speaker 2: one of the main architects one of the biggest cheating

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Speaker 2: scandals correct in the history of Major League Baseball. But

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Speaker 2: you're gonna let him in the Hall of Fame. And

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Speaker 2: you're saying that somehow those guys that you either deem

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Speaker 2: because Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens never tested positive for

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Speaker 2: Never tested positive. So guys you assumed use peds, but

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Speaker 2: you always talk about, well, those guys jeopardize the integrity

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Speaker 2: of the game. And I'm like, you mean the integrity

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Speaker 2: of a sport that banned an entire race of people

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Speaker 2: for sixty years? Are you really worried about the integrity

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Speaker 2: of the history of baseball? What? What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: It's so funny you mentioned this, Steve, because this is

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Speaker 3: like the one baseball thing I'm super like, like, not

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Speaker 3: I don't pay attention, but that I'm very well versed

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Speaker 3: on because I'm Barry Bond's my favorite players that can't

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Speaker 3: have a Giants fan for those who aren't aware, as

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Speaker 3: And so I've studied on this a lot because you know,

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Speaker 3: and they did not test for steroids, no, and so

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Speaker 3: there were no rule Well I think in the rule

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Speaker 3: book it said you couldn't use steroids, but they didn't

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Speaker 3: test for it, Like they didn't care, right, I mean

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Speaker 3: it's a matter of did baseball care or not care.

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Speaker 3: They didn't care. I mean famously, Mark McGuire had steroids

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Speaker 3: that and letting it go was because of the strike, right,

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Speaker 3: and and then you to lockout. They needed to get

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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds played well that year to white start taking steroids.

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Speaker 3: You had a great season. No one cared about him,

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Speaker 3: and baseball needed that. And the architect of that era,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, and the manager name Tony LaRussa

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Speaker 2: who probably benefited more than any other from players that

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Speaker 2: use peds starting with Kensekoh, McGuire and everyone else, He's

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. The hypocrisy is so over

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Speaker 2: the top, and so like I said, the baseball the

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Speaker 2: baseball writers like to. I mean, take the sweeping bow

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Speaker 2: to a man and a lady that say that theirs

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Speaker 2: is the best hall of fame, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: yours is the worst. I mean, the Basketball Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame doesn't even count to me because it's a mishmash

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Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, pro exactly. There is no NBA Hall

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Speaker 2: one thing I've known. I know well over half the

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Speaker 2: on the committee. The one thing they are all told

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Speaker 2: be judge whether it's a player or coach, contributor purely

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Speaker 2: on what they did on the field. They're outside lives. No,

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Speaker 2: you know, we had this controversy with Jim Tyer. This

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame should have been Hall of Fame Offensive Tackle.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs back in their AFL days, obviously suffering from,

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Speaker 2: out the ballot. Well, out of the blue, they put

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Speaker 2: him back on the ballot, and their children, obviously growing

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Speaker 2: still didn't vote him into the Hall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's okay, Well, get I get that one. The

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Speaker 3: every year when they announced the five, yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: feel that way. I'm like, oh, like, when you see

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Speaker 3: voters sent out a text every year to me and

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Speaker 3: he asked me, like, who am I five? I think

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Speaker 3: at all, where it's hard to pick the five Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer Now, of course, baseball is not a threshold

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Speaker 3: of five every years. You can't say five percent of

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Speaker 3: the vote. I believe in football it's just five.

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Speaker 2: And well it's not even five anymore in football. So

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Speaker 2: what they did last year was because they had been

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Speaker 2: putting in five five, five, five plus whatever senior candidate

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Speaker 2: to cut back. So what they did was instead of

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Speaker 2: all five, they cut it to a final seven. They

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Speaker 2: only voted in three out of the seven last year. Three.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 2: It was hard to get gates. It was Alan and Alan,

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Speaker 2: Jared Allen and one of my favorite people, Eric Allen.

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Speaker 2: And then they did the same thing. They had three

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Speaker 2: senior players, a coach, and a contributor. One of them

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Speaker 2: made it sterling sharp. Mike Holmgren did not get voted in.

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Speaker 3: Right, They're very they're very selective on how they do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that would have been. But as far

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Speaker 2: as Dave Parker's a concern, like I said, he was

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Speaker 2: during the late seventies, the best player in baseball, hands down.

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Speaker 2: There was no player that had more talent, had accomplished

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Speaker 2: more at a young age than he did. His career

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Speaker 2: got derailed in the early eighties. Pittsburgh let him go.

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Speaker 2: contribute late in his career as a DH and a

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Speaker 2: great guy passed today. But I'll tell you what he

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Speaker 2: he was very deserving and unhappy that he lived long

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Speaker 2: enough to enjoy being elected to the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: all right, unlike Pete Rose. But that's the story for

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Speaker 2: I want to start off with the Justin Tucker situation. Sure,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd see the latter has got a very good

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Speaker 3: For those who missed it. Basically, an arbitrator said that

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, I from a legal standpoint, because

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Speaker 4: But basically you see Dean Spano's the owner of the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: That's collusion is when you when you plan when you

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you about the future of the NFL

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Speaker 4: get done before training camp. But some of these quarterback

431
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Speaker 4: deals are fascinating now because are you gonna are you

432
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Speaker 4: gonna see more accusations of collusion because this is and

433
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Speaker 4: by the end of the nfl PA, we don't again.

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Speaker 4: This is I want to talk with the NFLP next week.

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Speaker 4: They need have a little bit better leadership.

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Speaker 3: And that's another story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have my Jeff, I my thoughts off the

438
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Speaker 4: air of about for twenty five years, which I I

439
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Speaker 4: just think they gotta get they gotta do better. They

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Speaker 4: just they gotta do better.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to defend the PA exactly here, but

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Speaker 3: I will say, as someone who's been in those meetings before, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just you have seventeen hundred different opinions. And the

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Speaker 3: number one gripe I have with the our process is

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Speaker 3: that in the NBA and Major League Baseball for years,

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Speaker 3: it's not so much in baseball now, but it is

447
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Speaker 3: still in an NBA super stars are union reps and

448
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Speaker 3: the NFL is not the case. And I really think

449
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: the NFL could benefit from Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes

450
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Speaker 3: and Lane Johnson and and Miles Garrett and like those

451
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Speaker 3: type of players being union reps and being at the

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Speaker 3: head of the table. I'm not saying that Trader can't

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Speaker 3: do a good job or Foxworthy, who I think is fantastic,

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Speaker 3: like he can do a good job like these, but

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Speaker 3: I think it just it hits different. I mean, Chris

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Speaker 3: Paul was ahead of the NFL players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I just wish that because what happens is it's, you

459
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Speaker 3: know this, like the Stars just like parachute in at

460
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Speaker 3: the last hour and then try to get things that

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Speaker 3: they want in the scene. It's like you haven't played

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Speaker 3: attention at all. And I think the owners would respect

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Speaker 3: it a little bit more if Mahomes was in the

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Speaker 3: meeting room with the NFL Management Council and not you know,

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Speaker 3: a you know, a mid tier starter. So I would

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Speaker 3: love for that to change for the NFLPA next.

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Speaker 4: Week, I want to talk about Garrett money and how

468
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Speaker 4: that that the union has to do a much better job.

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Speaker 4: And this goes to what Jeff's saying. Everybody's going to

470
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Speaker 4: be on board because I remember ESPN did a phenomenal

471
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Speaker 4: documentary of strike season in eighty seven and how player

472
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Speaker 4: and it got very ugly and then the Player's cave

473
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Speaker 4: because the stars cross the pilard. Yeah, I know, I know,

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Speaker 4: the eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's just so it's guys don't save their money and guys.

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Speaker 2: Just guys. I was in the middle of it, were

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty seven with a replacement games. Think about this,

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Speaker 2: how this all worked, Jeff. So here we are. It

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Speaker 2: was my four season working for the Raiders on the

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Speaker 2: head of media relations. Two games end of the season,

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Speaker 2: everybody walks out. So when you think about this, every

482
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Speaker 2: team had one week off to put an entire roster together. Now,

483
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Speaker 2: think about that, an entire league had to put together

484
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Speaker 2: a brand new roster in one week that, which is

485
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Speaker 2: is so mind blowing nowt they had this. One thing

486
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 2: is the USFL had just folded two years before, so

487
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: there were a few of those USFL cast offs that

488
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Speaker 2: were floating around. But with one week off, they the

489
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Speaker 2: whole league had to put together a roster. My favorite

490
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Speaker 2: story out of that was, I'm scrambling to put together

491
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Speaker 2: a media guide and there's no computers of these things. Guys.

492
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there with my assistant. We're like typing out

493
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Speaker 2: or handing out these questionnaires, right, and I'll never get this.

494
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Speaker 2: There was this linebacker that we had signed named Deshaun Shamberger, right,

495
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Speaker 2: and so we have him. He filled out his thing

496
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Speaker 2: and he put as his college Arizona State. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I do not remember this guy at Arizona State. So

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Speaker 2: I grabbed a media guide and knowed Deshaun Shamberger. I

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Speaker 2: called the school. They're like ooh, and so I walk

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Speaker 2: up to him. I go, when were you at Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: He goes, I didn't go to Arizona State. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: you put it as your college. He goes, Oh, that's

503
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Speaker 2: my favorite school I root for. I'm like, okay, where

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Speaker 2: we got I am not kidding you. I almost fell overlivable.

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Speaker 3: Where did he actually go to college?

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember, to be honest, I was so

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Speaker 2: blown away by that. But here at the bottom line

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Speaker 2: is is that immediately had players across the line. You know.

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Speaker 2: It was it was derailed almost from the gig though.

510
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Speaker 2: You have to sit because there were guys that were broke,

511
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Speaker 2: they couldn't afford to, not like with a paycheck.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of it, that's what I'm bringing

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Speaker 4: up very quickly, the thirty for thirty series A Year

514
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: of the Scap. You must see it. If you've never

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00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 4: seen it, yeah, I highly recommend you go to YouTube

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Speaker 4: to find it. They rerun it a couple times per year.

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Speaker 4: Everything we just talked about is on there for that

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Speaker 4: year in eighty seven. I was covering the league then,

519
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Speaker 4: but I remember it in my early twenties and I

520
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: was just like, I could not believe and by the

521
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Speaker 4: Washington put together, you know, and they finally got Super

522
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: Bowl rings thirty years later, but Washington in one week. Guys,

523
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Speaker 4: you got to give the late Bobby Bethard credit. Unbelieved

524
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Speaker 4: that they all of a sudden all that they could win,

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Speaker 4: and that's the big reason why they won Super Bowl the.

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Speaker 2: Year, no doubt about it. And it was it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's the only time it's happened. But who knows if

528
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Speaker 2: this guaranteed money doesn't somehow, I just I cannot believe

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Speaker 2: we're sittill, sitting here in twenty twenty five, with all

530
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Speaker 2: the guaranteed money in Major League Baseball in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: that the NFL is still behind the eight ball on

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Speaker 2: that one. Great stuff has always Adam. We'll pick up

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Speaker 2: a conversation next week. There is great Adam Kaplan our

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Speaker 2: NFL insider. All right, let's find out what is a

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00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: trending right now and a guy that is always controversial

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Speaker 2: in headgear, and that is Martin Weiss. Listen, I just

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Speaker 2: I am not color blonde. That's my take. Okay, let

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Speaker 2: me ask this of Jeff now, Jeff, I know you

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Speaker 2: can't see.

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00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Martin right now or do the Dodger hat thing again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have this dog so he's wearing as it's

542
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: blood the Dodger hat, right, and my son, by the way,

543
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Speaker 2: I showed him a picture of my son at the

544
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Speaker 2: Dodger game. Ever, he has a green Dodger gap. He

545
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Speaker 2: has a green one. So I'm like, it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: matter the color. It's the logo. If you have the

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Speaker 2: La logo, that is the Dodger logo, It's a Dodger

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Speaker 2: cap regardless of the color.

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Speaker 3: I think. I agree. Now I have a bunch of

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Speaker 3: Giants hats and all different colors Giants like I like,

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Speaker 3: I am a I would never be caught dead in

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Speaker 3: a Dodgers hat, just to say, I'm like from Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Right, But does orange a good color for you?

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Speaker 3: Orange is a Giants color?

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00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's my point. Is it a good color for you?

556
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Speaker 2: Do you like if do you wear a Giant's cap

557
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Speaker 2: that has a different.

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Speaker 7: Jeff could wear a blue and white Giants hat as

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Speaker 7: long as well.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. Myles are green, but thank you, I would

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Speaker 3: not wear a blue Giants hat because the Dodgers are blue.

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Speaker 2: Right, no blue? But would consider that a Dodger's hat

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Speaker 2: or a Giants hat is the logo or the color a.

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Speaker 3: Blue Giants hat does not feel right because well, then.

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Speaker 2: You're you're sort of in lockstep with Martin. Martin's feeling

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Speaker 2: is more about the color than it is the logos,

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Speaker 2: the color of your Sorry, I'm sorry, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: If it's the color of the rock this is. But

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Speaker 3: this is like Marnin's not a Giant or Dodgers fans.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't really work. Like like you're like you're a

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Speaker 3: Tiger's fan church and yeah, okay, like if you wore

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Speaker 3: the a Detroit happened in the color of the of

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Speaker 3: the Guardians, that's kind of weird, I feel like.

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Speaker 7: But I also would not be like, this is my

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Speaker 7: Guardian's colored Tiger's hat. I would say this, you say,

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Speaker 7: this is my hat with an old English d that

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to match my outfit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you really want alien, if you were to

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Speaker 2: wear the Giants colors, would that la logo?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? If you were going to orange a black dot,

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Speaker 3: that would be all.

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Speaker 7: And so that's why I I just draw my line

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Speaker 7: at you know, silly me. I think the colors that

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Speaker 7: the team wear plus the logo adds that is what

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Speaker 7: it is. Once you start changing the colors of things, now,

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Speaker 7: because if it's.

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Speaker 3: What color, doctor, how are you wearing today?

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Speaker 2: This is a black hat, a black cat with the

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Speaker 2: Dodger l A logo on it. It's a black Dodgers hat.

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00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Dodger hat.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Just like my son has a green doctor cat.

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Speaker 2: So that's okay. You can call it every whatever you want, Martin.

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Speaker 7: You know what, we'll address this at eight o'clock Eastern,

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Speaker 7: when it's my turn to set the record straight and

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Speaker 7: in everybody in America apparently just on the wrong page.

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Speaker 2: Let's run through some baseball scores.

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Speaker 7: The rays of the Oriols bottom of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 7: Tampa leads Baltimore eleven to three, Mariners and the Rangers

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Speaker 7: tied to a piece. In the top of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 7: the Royals in the aforementioned Dodgers Dodgers in fact wearing

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Speaker 7: Dodger blue. Just to be clear, they are wearing blue

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Speaker 7: and white. They are trailing the Royals, who are also

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Speaker 7: wearing blue and white a different color blue, though, nine

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Speaker 7: to one. In the top of the ninth inning, d

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Speaker 7: Backs and the Marlins. In the top of the ninth

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Speaker 7: Arizona with a seven to six lead, the Cardinals with

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Speaker 7: an eight to six lead over the Guardian in the

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Speaker 7: top of the ninth inning.

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Speaker 2: Top of the eighth, San Diego with the six to

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Speaker 2: four lead over.

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati, Boston pounding Tampa to I'm sorry, Toronto in the

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Speaker 7: bottom of the seventh, twelve to one bottom of the third.

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Speaker 7: This game got stopped through a lot of weather going

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Speaker 7: on there. The Mets and the Pirates Pittsburgh with a

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Speaker 7: three to one lead over New York elsewhere major League Baseball.

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00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 7: So the Ages beat the Yankee seven and nothing. Tigers

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00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 7: beat the Twins ten to five. Ron Washington, Angels manager

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Speaker 7: is going to remain on medical leave for the rest

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Speaker 7: of the season. Washington is seventy three years old and

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Speaker 7: the oldest manager in the game. NBA trades. The Bulls

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Speaker 7: traded Lonzo Ball to Cleveland for Isaaccorro. Sam Merrol will

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Speaker 7: stay in Cleveland on a four year, thirty eight million

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Speaker 7: dollar deal, Davion Mitchell staying in Miami on two years,

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Speaker 7: twenty four million dollars, and nas Reed will sign a

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Speaker 7: five year, one hundred and twenty five million dollars deal

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Speaker 7: to stay with the Wolves. And just saw a post

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Speaker 7: from the Utah Jazz. Ace Bailey, the fifth pick in

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Speaker 7: the draft. Did report he is in Utah unless that

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Speaker 7: photo was AI, So feel good about the fact as

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Speaker 7: Bailey's there.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got plenty to talk about when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the old NBA draft and what just transpired

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Speaker 2: over the couple of days ago. By the way, Mark Medina,

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Speaker 2: our NBA insider, will join us coming up in our

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Speaker 2: next hour, Martin, thank you very much. Once again, we're

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Speaker 2: I want to talk to Jeff about a team that

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Speaker 2: he seems most loyal to. Okay, and they're very prominent

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL. The big question is for how

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Speaker 2: long this is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman Jeff Schwartz, Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports radio studios. All right, so, Jeff, yesterday

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Speaker 2: I was on a radio show and I was asked

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Speaker 2: the question which NFL quarterback has the most pressure to

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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl this year? There are two obvious names, right,

656
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. I mean, both have been League MVPs.

657
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: Neitherre's even made it to a Super Bowl. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean to sort of justify their name in the

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Speaker 2: conversation of great quarterbacks, I mean, you got to win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. I mean just that's the nature of

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Speaker 2: the game. But then I paused for a second. I thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, there actually is another guy, and that's Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I say that he said, well, he's

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Speaker 2: already won three Super Bowls. Okay, but it wasn't that

665
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Speaker 2: long ago that we were talking about Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 2: the same sentence as Tom Brady, Like he's had a

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady's pace and he still lives in terms of

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Speaker 2: how many Super Bowls he's played in five and how

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Speaker 2: many is won, is the same as Brady at this

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Speaker 2: point of his career, which was three. Remember, Brady had

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Speaker 2: a ten year hiatus before he ran out three more

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Speaker 2: super Bowls with Patriots. But my question is is that

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Speaker 2: going to happen? I mean, if this is it for Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: And again the way they got embarrassed in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: they were non competitive against the Eagles, got completely blown

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Speaker 2: out of that game. I mean, at some point, Andy

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Speaker 2: Reid's gonna call it a career. This is not going

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Speaker 2: to be like Belichick who stayed the entire time with

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Speaker 2: Brady all the way through and kept timp kept them

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Speaker 2: in the conversation and then finally they were able to

681
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Speaker 2: win three more Super Bowls. I don't see ten years

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Speaker 2: from now Andy Reid being the coach of the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: if they have that kind of hiccup in a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl run. But and I ask you, because you're close

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Speaker 2: to this franchise, to go this franchise in and out.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I feel like you things don't go well.

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Speaker 2: You're little apologetic, you know, I mean, you're a fierce

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Speaker 2: defender of the Chiefs organization. Again, why not? I mean

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Speaker 2: they've been to five Super Bowl over what the last

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Speaker 2: six years, and so you know, they've they've proven themselves

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Speaker 2: and they're they're part of the NFL lore, but are

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Speaker 2: you are you confident that there are more Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: victories on the horizon for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: So what made the Brady Belichick dynasty so impressive was

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Speaker 3: it was two separate dynasties, right, It was as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: it was the three Super Bowls in four years, and

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Speaker 3: it was the ten year wait for another win. And

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Speaker 3: they lost the Giants in eleven and seven right between

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl wins in four and fourteen. And they

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Speaker 3: did it with two separate teams. And this is the

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Speaker 3: last year the Chiefs are doing it with basically Travis

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Speaker 3: kelcey right, and Chris Jones. I think is getting older

703
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Speaker 3: and we're not seeing the same week to week production.

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Speaker 3: He still is incredible in the postseason and incredible big games,

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Speaker 3: but there are some games where he just does do

706
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Speaker 3: very much. And that's he's at his age now where

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Speaker 3: it's just hard, I think for seventeen weeks to give

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Speaker 3: it your one hundred percent when we need your hundred

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Speaker 3: percent against the Buffalo Bills, right, and against the Ravens

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Speaker 3: and against you in the postseason. And so I was

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Speaker 3: surprised that Travis kelce came back I actually think that

712
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Speaker 3: if they would have won, he would have retired. And

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Speaker 3: so there's pressure to win this year for this group

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Speaker 3: of guys. They got rid of Joe Toney, right, an

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Speaker 3: older player, as well. They got rid of some of

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Speaker 3: their guys on defense that were free agents, just didn't

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Speaker 3: re sign them. And so they're they're going younger all

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Speaker 3: over the roster. The younger wide receiver, right, they went young,

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Speaker 3: left tackle, they're young on the secondary. They're they're trying

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Speaker 3: to get younger because I think they know this is

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Speaker 3: sort of the last year of the old crew, and

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Speaker 3: we have to re revamp our team to just get younger, right,

723
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Speaker 3: And that's part of the NFL. And so there's pressure

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Speaker 3: to win for Travis Kelce essentially, right, and and for

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Speaker 3: the crew you have now. But just overall, I mean,

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Speaker 3: unless Mahomes feels pressure to be ahead of Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: at this point, there's no there's not as much pressure

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Speaker 3: as Josh Allen or or Lamar Right. I do think

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Speaker 3: that there's I'm not sure pressure is the right word

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Speaker 3: to use, but I do think Mahomes and the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: offense want to be more vertical, Like there's a pressure

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Speaker 3: to be better offensively this season, to throw the ball downfield,

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Speaker 3: to make more explosive play, because that was what they

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Speaker 3: did for so many years. Right, and last year he

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Speaker 3: got a thing too. Hollywood Brown hurt for most of

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Speaker 3: the season. Is Averworthy rookie and right she Rice was

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Speaker 3: off to a great season before I got hurt against

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Speaker 3: the Chargers in Week four. I believe it was. So

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Speaker 3: those guys are all playing this season, They're all is

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Speaker 3: every Worthy in the year two. Rice for now is

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Speaker 3: playing and Holly Brown's healthy. So Steve, there's pressure, I

742
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Speaker 3: think internally to just be better off offensively, but I

743
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Speaker 3: think there's no pressure to win like other quarterbacks that

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Speaker 3: just can't get there, right, I mean Joe Burrow, Lamar,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen Hurts has no pressure now, right, He's won.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's much pressure as you think

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Speaker 3: there is.

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Speaker 2: Well again, it's about legacy to me. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not like Mahomes is not going to go to

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Obviously he's going to. But what's

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Speaker 2: interesting about you mentioned the Chiefs offense. Forget the last game,

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Speaker 2: obviously the throwaway game that he didn't play, but if

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Speaker 2: you look at the other sixteen games. They actually had

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Speaker 2: more games where they scored less than twenty points than

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Speaker 2: they scored thirty or more points. Thirty was there, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was it. I mean they did not last year.

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Speaker 2: And all season along we kept saying, this is the

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Speaker 2: worst six and O team, the worst eight no team,

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Speaker 2: the worst twelve and one team. We were saying that

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Speaker 2: all season long. Then they get to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: and people are just buying, well, they're not going to lose.

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Speaker 2: I was one that actually was on the record saying

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Speaker 2: the Eagles would win by double digits, and they did

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Speaker 2: that and some and so I just I just wonder.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you look at the Bills right now,

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Speaker 2: I mean when you look at the AFC and we're

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Speaker 2: up against the clock. But just just quickly here, when

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Speaker 2: you look at the AFC, obviously the Chiefs are still

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Speaker 2: the team to beat until somebody knocks them off in

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Speaker 2: the AFC. Who is the prime contender to knock them off?

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Speaker 2: It is Buffalo. I agree. I agree, Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Be to the regular season, they've lost in the postings

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Speaker 3: at four straight times. Three of those games were by

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Speaker 3: three points, the other was yeah, was by by six

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Speaker 3: and overtime. I mean, like they they've been right there

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Speaker 3: like they've they've had a chance to do. They have

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Speaker 3: to they have to get over that hurdle.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, this reminds me of the Raiders

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Speaker 2: back in the seventies. They couldn't get past the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and then finally finally got them. They got him and

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Speaker 2: ended up blowing out the Vikings in Super Bowl. Even

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Speaker 2: John Maddens won win very similar situation. At some point,

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Speaker 2: it's going to happen to have them for Buffalo, I agree,

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Speaker 2: at some point. Uh But anyway, all right, well, I

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Speaker 2: just I just want to see because again when you

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Speaker 2: talk about all the time, great the quarterbacks, you got Brady,

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Speaker 2: you got four and O. Bratshaw you got four and O.

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Speaker 2: Montana got three and O Eightman and Mahomes is three

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Speaker 2: and two. All right, coming up much on the NBA

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Speaker 2: Draft aftermath. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Please don't listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Radio Radio rolling along here on a busy sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Coming up here in about twenty minutes, Smart Medina,

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Speaker 2: our NBA insider, will be joining us. So we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of NBA to talk about now that the

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Speaker 2: draft is in the rearview mirror. You know, Jeff, I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. Last weekend we did the show

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Speaker 2: together on Saturday, and then I did the show on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Never mentioned the upcoming NBA Draft. And that's because I

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Speaker 2: blanked out on the fact that the draft was coming up.

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Speaker 2: There was so little buzz about the drafts.

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Speaker 3: Ended Sunday in the game seven the later.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the draft was like the pawn us and

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Speaker 2: so but I watched it, I realized, And so I

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Speaker 2: sat down to watch the draft, and I mean we

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Speaker 2: were like, I don't know, five picks in and I

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: was already like, what am I even watching here? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I who are I mean? You got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: the first eight picks were all one and done freshmen. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And if you looked at the high school recruiting rankings

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Speaker 2: going into last season, it was pretty much five of

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Speaker 2: the eight guys who were on that list of the

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Speaker 2: top eight and of course, the the most bizarre thing

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Speaker 2: ever and I still don't understand this too. No one

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Speaker 2: really explained this. So Harper and Bailey, who were ranked

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Speaker 2: two and three behind Cooper flag As far as high

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Speaker 2: school recruits, Bailey was three, uh and Harper was No,

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Speaker 2: Bailey was two and Harper was three, and they both

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Speaker 2: end up at Rutgers. Yes, I mean just randomly end

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Speaker 2: up at Rutgers, whose only claim to fame was they

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Speaker 2: made a Final Four appearance back in nineteen seventy six

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Speaker 2: with James Bailey as their star players. You were like, wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean, mile though, they're going to be a juggernaut. No,

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Speaker 2: they had a losing record, not only in conference play

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Speaker 2: in the Big Ten, they had a losing record overall.

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Speaker 2: They weren't even close and they were eliminated in the

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Speaker 2: first round of the Big Ten tournament. How's that possible?

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Speaker 2: When you get the because we're used to Duke or Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: you know, all these schools they get you know, the

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Speaker 2: second and third and these two guys just decide one

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Speaker 2: of them's from tennis, and why are they going to Rutgers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe an investigation needs to happen there, but it didn't

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Speaker 2: pan out, and so it's like, yeah, exactly. And then

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Speaker 2: with this whole thing about Ace Bailey and telling people's

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Speaker 2: don't draft him, and again we keep getting back to

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Speaker 2: this idea of how nil money is change in the

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Speaker 2: landscape of collegiate sports. And by the way, somebody asked

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Speaker 2: me this about this cap, which is not legal. At

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00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: some point somebody's going to challenge this cap. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: the idea of spending money on any athlete that is

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00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: in a non revenue generating sport makes zero sense. When

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00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: people talk about this twenty million dollars, where do you

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be spent. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: spent on men's basketball, and it's going to be spent

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Speaker 2: on football, period. And this is going to be the

847
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Speaker 2: death knell of the so called Olympic sports at the

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00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: collegiate level because they're not generating revenue and they're going

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Speaker 2: to go by the wayside. And so there's so many

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Speaker 2: different layers of this. I mean, we can spend ten

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Speaker 2: shows trying to try to figure out where we're going

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Speaker 2: with all this. But again, to me, this draft held

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Speaker 2: less suspense plus half the picks on the first we're traded. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: immediately after being drafted, it just seemed like a scramble

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Speaker 2: of a bunch of guys. I mean, how many of

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Speaker 2: these players are can have any impact in the NBA?

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Speaker 2: At most five maybe if they're lucky. I just I

858
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Speaker 2: don't know. It's something is something's amiss with me and

859
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: something I used to really look forward to and and

860
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: could almost count the names down. I was lost as

861
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: far as these names are concerned. Less than ten picks

862
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: until the draft.

863
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: There's there's so many things here to get into Thursday morning. Well,

864
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: I'll back up. I don't know if you know this

865
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: about me. I love reading NFL draft grades the day

866
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: after the draft. I read all the articles like, send

867
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: them to I don't even care, just send them to me.

868
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: I love to read them.

869
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 2: Dan, you don't find out ironic of people grading drafts

870
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: before they played it.

871
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: Again, I do too. I did a live thing for

872
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: Fox Sports. My grades replic immediately. So I went to

873
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: go read a NBA draft. U great article, right right,

874
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: And I scrolled down quickly after the first couple of picks.

875
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: I want to see what the Lakers and a Lakers fan,

876
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: I knew they were picking the second round and a

877
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: first round pick. I scrolled down. I was like, oh, oh,

878
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: the second round hadn't happened yet. The second it was

879
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: the draftl was two days Yes, I had no idea.

880
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: And then and then talk about trades. I'm fairly certain

881
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: only four picks in the second round did not get traded,

882
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: which is wild. Look, it's everything gets compared to the NFL.

883
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: And the NFL draft is a nearly five month lead up, right,

884
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: the culturable season ends, no popper college football is, and

885
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: then we have months and months and months of events, right,

886
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, East West strourand Game combined, Pro Days, Top

887
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: thirty visits, individual workouts, and you have just months and

888
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: months of of lead up to the draft. And the

889
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: players that draft in the NFL often are impactful inmate,

890
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: especially quarterback position. Right, I mean Cooper Flag for how

891
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: good I think he is. I think you think he's

892
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: good too, you know, I mean I don't know in

893
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: three to five years, like we're really gonna see what

894
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: he is in the NBA, right, I mean, it's just

895
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 3: the way the league is. He's he's eighteen years old.

896
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: Most champions, I mean SGA is a young champion. Most champions.

897
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 3: The prime player of a team is twenty seven most

898
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: times to win their first championship. So Flag, you know,

899
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: it's eight years away, nine years away.

900
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he doesn't turn in nineteen until December, so.

901
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: It's just easy years away. And then you watch the telecast.

902
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: I know everyone's saying this. I'm gonna I'll jump on

903
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: the criticism. Trained two, it doesn't feel big, doesn't feel big.

904
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: And the NFL has two They have two networks essentially

905
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: that put on draft coverage, right, ESPN and NFL Network,

906
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: and either I think it is fantastic. And they have

907
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: people who are talking of the draft, who spend their

908
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: entire year preparing for the draft, right right, Daniel, Jeremiah

909
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: mel kiper Matt Miller, all these guys just do draft

910
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: all year. And I put in the ESPN teller caast,

911
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: I got Stephen A. Kendrick Perkins.

912
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Well you're you're so called draft expert, is Jay Billis

913
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: and and buy in large. Look I'm I'm not a

914
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: college But here's the thing, So I listen to what

915
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: Jay says. Right, He basically repeats the same thing over

916
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: and over again. I mean, he uses the same cliches

917
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: over and over again about almost every one of these guys.

918
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: And you know they you know, great great, like this great,

919
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: you know, blah blah blah. And I just like, I'm like,

920
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: you said the exact same thing about the guy two

921
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: picks ago like almost identical. So we're not really getting

922
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: any in depth information about guys that, frankly I need

923
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: in depth information because if you, if you if the

924
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: only college basketball you watch, which for the majority of

925
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: people listening, is the NCAA Tournament, then honestly you outside

926
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: of Cooper Flag and a couple of his duke teammates,

927
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: you know, the Florida guy finally went later in the

928
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: first round, I mean it just or the Houston guy,

929
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean all those guys went later, yeah, later, and

930
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: that type of thing, and you're just, so, who are

931
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: these people? Give me some insight? Why should I care

932
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: about two guys that came out of Ruckers that had

933
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: a losing season this year, a losing year.

934
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 3: I think. I think that's a huge part of it, too,

935
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: is that you know, when you are trying to preview

936
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: and analyze these guys to the fit. In the NBA,

937
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: there's one year of film, right, essentially one year of play.

938
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 3: That half of that year is the first time they're

939
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: playing college basketball, so it's gonna be a little rough,

940
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 3: and you're just you're just projecting talent out. In the NFL,

941
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: you often have three years of film, right, and you have,

942
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: you know, all these plays that you haven't a game,

943
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 3: and and you know you're playing often against an opponent

944
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: that looks like you might see in the NFL. You know,

945
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: Duke played No. One for the most part in the

946
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: regular season, right, I mean, we joked about their schedule

947
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: all year long. So I think those are really tough

948
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: factors will make it difficult to talk about the draft

949
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: and break down the draft and really care about the draft.

950
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: And again you mentioned nil. And this is something that

951
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: I found pretty interesting is I'm not the first to

952
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: say this, but you know, we're getting the generation now

953
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: of these players are are making a lot of money

954
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: in college and they shouldn't seem as excited to be

955
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: drafted anymore.

956
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 2: No, because it's not that we all expected What's funny.

957
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: But here's the thing though, NFL players, those guys are

958
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: getting money too in college, and they're they're super pumped,

959
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: and I just think it didn't feel as big. And

960
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: one other thing too, I found interesting that it's not

961
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: really tied to the draft, but it could be related

962
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: to just sort of the vibe of the NBA right now.

963
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: Did you notice the thunder like did celebrate after they

964
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: won the championship. I was shocked they there was no

965
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: celebration in hockey, right they go out to the goalie

966
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: and they have.

967
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 2: A Stanley a different ball, I know.

968
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: But even in baseball, they dog pile of the picture

969
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: like there was nothing. And it's the first time these

970
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: guys had won a championship. I mean, Hartenstein was celebrating.

971
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: I saw on the sideline he was super pumped. But

972
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: that was it, and it just it felt a little

973
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: low energy. The draft a little a little low energy.

974
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: I mean the storyline is is Ace Bailey doesn't want

975
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: to go to Utah and he showed up today he's

976
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: gonna play. Obviously, Utah actually thought did well. They got

977
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: Walter Clayton in a trade, like like they have an actual,

978
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: I think, a pretty good job in the draft. So

979
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: I uh I, I'm with you on it. I just

980
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: think they don't make espin, doesn't make it big. It

981
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: doesn't feel big. They don't have draft guys on the telecast,

982
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: these players. You know the kid that got draft the

983
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 3: third great story, Yeah, you know, he he's one of

984
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: the guys that was very fortunate to be drafted. He

985
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: talked about you know, he lived. I think I want

986
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: to I want to mess this up. But he said

987
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: something about how he he didn't have powers and he

988
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: lived off a generator. But he seemed legitimately happy to

989
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: be drafted. Other guys did not. But great story. But

990
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: like played one year like this. I didn't watch Baylor

991
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: this year. Sorry, I just didn't have time to watch

992
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: Baylor play, time to watch Rutgers playing. I covered the

993
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: Big Ten for a lot of what I do and work,

994
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: and so this all plays a role into why it

995
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: felt smaller. And I don't think that's it's inherently bad, Steve,

996
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: like that's what it is now. But yeah, it doesn't

997
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: feel as important as it used to. And there's many

998
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 3: factors for it that we've discussed.

999
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: But the money keeps rolling in Shay Gils, it is

1000
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: Alexander's nude contract is going to pay him by his

1001
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: final year well over seventy million dollars, and wait till

1002
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: the Luca contract. By the time they get down to

1003
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: the Luca contract with the Lakers his final year, and

1004
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: that deal will pay him in excess of eighty million

1005
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: dollars a year. So again, what are you playing for?

1006
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: What are you playing for? I mean again, when you're

1007
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: making that kind of money, generational money, money that you

1008
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: can't even fathom having that kind of money. How does

1009
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: that affect you? I mean, how does it affect you?

1010
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: Does it have a desire to win? If you're absolutely

1011
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: guaranteed all that money no matter what you do. I

1012
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: don't know.

1013
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: You show up every day to work. I don't know

1014
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: how much you make, so I mean, how do you

1015
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: do it? How do you show the KTLA?

1016
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm paycheck to paycheck and then that's what I do

1017
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: all these years, paycheck to paycheck. You have no idea,

1018
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1019
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: But think about it. Those Yeah, I think that the

1020
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: NBA players are motivated to play. Well, that's a different deal.

1021
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: There's different type some player now some but you know

1022
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: SJA obviously I think is that way? Yes, NBA contracts,

1023
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: you know I did naws read deal. Seems excessive, but

1024
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: that's what the deals are now. I mean, there was

1025
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: you know Austin Reeves opted out.

1026
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants thirty five million a year. Are you

1027
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: ready for thirty five million a year?

1028
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: I think someone will pay him that not Los Angeles.

1029
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: We haven't had a chance to talk yet about the

1030
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: Lakers ownership show.

1031
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: We'll get into that, we'll get into it. Well, I'll

1032
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: tell you what. Hold on to that because on the

1033
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: other side, we're going to catch up with our NBA insider,

1034
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: Mark Medina. This is Fox Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday,

1035
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Jeff Schwartz with you, were live from the

1036
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,600
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1037
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,839
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1039
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,799
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1040
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,640
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1041
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: the biggest games and definitely no better place to prime

1042
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,759
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1043
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,520
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1044
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,240
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1045
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Radio on iHeartRadio app. And yes, Jeff Schwartz has been

1046
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: a superstar in that program. Was it four years now?

1047
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 3: You said, I think it went to our fourth season? Yeah,

1048
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: last September, Yeah, it was. It wasn't year round and

1049
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: now it's it's year round. So we'll be on tomorrow morning.

1050
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: Baseball WNBA.

1051
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: Well, that's basically when they took you away from me

1052
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: as basically yes, yes, yes, and.

1053
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 3: That's uh yeah. So we'll preview whatever is on. I

1054
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: mean we'll it's some NFL futures. I would have magine

1055
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game. By the way, yes, today

1056
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: is June twenty eighth, it is July thirty.

1057
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: First, everyone I know, it is it is, it is.

1058
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: It's your chargers and still your chargers. Are we going?

1059
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: Well? You know, like I say, they were my chargers

1060
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: when I was in San Diego. That's the way it was.

1061
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: But then they left San Diego, so no, they're no longer.

1062
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: Out of all the expansion teams. That was the dumbest

1063
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 3: one of we've ever had. I mean, not expect you

1064
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: all the teams that move that well there still don't.

1065
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: Don't get me started. I could do ten shows on

1066
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: the Spano's family, Dean Spanos in particular, but those are

1067
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: personal things. I'll save that for another day. Let's focus

1068
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: in on the NBA now that the draft is coming,

1069
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Speaker 2: gone barely new. That's the way I look at the

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Speaker 2: NBA draft. Mark Mendina, our insider is Johnny is Mark.

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Speaker 2: We always appreciate the time. So Jeff and I came

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Speaker 2: to the conclusion. I certainly thought this because I've been

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Speaker 2: watching the NBA Draft forever. I mean, it seems like

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 2: yesterday David Stern pulled out that frozen card that had

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Speaker 2: the New York Knicks number one overall so that they

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Speaker 2: get Patrick Ewing. And I've watched every draft since, and

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Speaker 2: there was always a sense of anticipation with the draft,

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Speaker 2: and I found myself about five picks in, like what

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00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: else is on TV? I Was it just me? Or

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00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean there was something really lacking in terms of

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00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: drama or I don't know what it was in this

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00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: year's NBA draft. Am I off on this? Or was

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Speaker 2: it business as usual for you? Now?

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Speaker 6: Steve, I think you're one hundred percent on the money.

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Speaker 6: And what's ironic with that is there weren't people tipping

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00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 6: picks as they were in past season, so there were

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Speaker 6: still some elements. After Cooper flag Beam pick number one,

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Speaker 6: what happens, you know. I think the most notable example

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Speaker 6: is Ace Bailey following a number five after he was

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00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 6: refusing all sorts of workouts with Philadelphia and other teams.

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Speaker 6: But I'm with you that there doesn't have that same

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Speaker 6: kind of excitement as there has been in the past.

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00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 6: And that doesn't even include the fact that the second

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00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 6: round is televised the very next day with prospects you've

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Speaker 6: never heard of. So I presume as bad as the

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Speaker 6: first round was for you, the second round was ten

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Speaker 6: times worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I told Steve, I didn't know that it was

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Speaker 3: a second round or a second day.

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Speaker 2: I went to read a draft great article because I'm

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Speaker 2: a Lakers fan.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see about I want to see

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Speaker 3: someone talk about their second round pick. I know, I

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Speaker 3: know they'd have a first round pick. And I went

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Speaker 3: to an NBA draft article for winners and losers for

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Speaker 3: round one, and the very end it was like, here

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Speaker 3: are the guys in day two? I said, day two?

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Speaker 3: What was the day two for this? So I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of us feel that way. I think lost

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Speaker 3: in the talk about you know, flag and maybe Ace

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: Bailey is what the Pelicans did trading an unprotected first

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 3: round picked for for Derek Queen. What were they thinking?

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: Because it feels like that is a heavy price to

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Speaker 3: pay for Queeno. I think it's going to be good

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00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: in the NBA, but unprotected first round pick feels like

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Speaker 3: a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you. Derek Quin could very well be

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00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 6: a good player. But the fact that you trade a

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Speaker 6: pick in the future that you might not need, I

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Speaker 6: don't get it. And what I also don't understand is

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Speaker 6: when you're looking at the Pelicans' other moves so far

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Speaker 6: in the offseason, it seemed to indicate that they're starting

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Speaker 6: to go into rebuild mode. You know, trading someone like CJ. McCollum,

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Speaker 6: valued veteran player is very productive still at this stage

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Speaker 6: of his career. Getting a young guy like Jordan Poole

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Speaker 6: that is good but usually just on the score and

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00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 6: end doesn't play a lot of defense. You thought that

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Speaker 6: they're waving a signal you know what it's about the

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Speaker 6: lottery next season. Well, if you're going to single that,

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Speaker 6: why would you trade a future draft pick that you

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 6: might need when you get good lottery on So I'm

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 6: not sure what Shoe Dumars is doing. I'm curious of

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Speaker 6: the thought processes, but it doesn't make any sense from

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Speaker 6: my point of view, because if you're going to choose

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Speaker 6: a lane, whether it being win now mode or go rebuilding,

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Speaker 6: you gotta choose a lane. You can't dip your toe

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Speaker 6: in one lane and then dip your toe in the other.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about Oklahoma City going into these playoffs,

1139
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: and they had a historic season. I mean we're talking

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: a sixty eight win team, sixteen games better than the

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: number two seed in the much stronger Western Conference, winning

1142
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: their games by an average of thirteen points a game

1143
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: over the course of an eighty two game schedule, second

1144
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Speaker 2: youngest team ever get to the NBA Finals, now the

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00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: second youngest team to win NBA Championship. And when it

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: was all said and done, I could not have been

1147
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: more underwhelmed by Oklahoma City. I just I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out because I did not get to see a

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Speaker 2: lot of them during the regular season. We talked about

1150
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: this before, Mark, is that you know, we watched the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: You know who they put on. They put the Celtics,

1152
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: the Lakers, the six, there's the usual suspects. Is what

1153
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: we saw for the majority of the season, even though

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City regular season wise was the runaway best team

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. But when I finally got a chance

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: to sit down and watch this team, I just walked

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00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: away underwhelmed. I mean, there were moments when they look

1158
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: good and there were moments when they they were lost

1159
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: and Jeff was bringing up before he came on, wow,

1160
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Speaker 2: how underwhelming was their celebration after winning the NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: So I was making the argument before the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: we could be looking at a team that could dominate

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Speaker 2: the least the rest of this decade. They got five

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Speaker 2: first round picks over the two years, you know, this

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Speaker 2: year and next year, And I don't know, should we

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Speaker 2: expect that they are going to be that team as

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Speaker 2: young as they are where they should rule the NBA

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Speaker 2: for the balance of this decade or were things exposed

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Speaker 2: in the postseason about this basketball team.

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Speaker 6: Well, see, there's a a lot of thing good things

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Speaker 6: you pointed out to unpack. As far as you know,

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Speaker 6: being underwhelmed, I think that they play really well. They

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Speaker 6: have the greatest and greatest score in the league right

1174
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 6: now in Shay Gildas, Aalaxander, their top defensive team. But

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Speaker 6: I'm with you that they're not flashy, They're not necessarily entertaining.

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Speaker 6: Shay is a very methodical player that takes jump shots

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Speaker 6: or gets to the rim, gets the foul line. Jaylen

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01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 6: Williams another great shooter score, but it's just catch and

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01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 6: shoot threes and then the rest of the team is

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Speaker 6: all about just playing defense and you know, doing all

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Speaker 6: those fundamental things that coaches like. But it doesn't make

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 6: highlight reels. To your point about them celebrating or not

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01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 6: really celebrating out with surprise. I mean, usually teams love

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Speaker 6: to pop the champagne bottles. I get when there was

1185
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 6: a lack of enthusiasm for doing that over the ins

1186
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 6: or the NBA Cup, the mid season tournament, but for

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 6: them not to really do that and be subdued after

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 6: winning a championship, I guess it's a new generation. I

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01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 6: don't get it. This is something that we might have

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Speaker 6: to get used to because next season I think they're

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Speaker 6: the favorites to win the championship. I don't know. I

1192
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 6: don't think it's going to be ten years or five

1193
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 6: year dynasty type stuff. But the fact that they don't

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 6: have to make any tough to financial decisions like the

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Speaker 6: Celtics are right now this offseason because everyone's still under

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01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 6: contract the next two years, they'll still have this same

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Speaker 6: core together. You also look at the rest of the landscape.

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Speaker 6: A lot these an conferences wide open, most notably because

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of injury questions all related to Achilles injuries,

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 6: Damian Lower with the Bucks, Eyrese Halvernon with the Pacers.

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 6: You know, you don't know which head coach A're going

1202
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 6: to get with the New York next c after firing

1203
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 6: Tom Thibodeau, so really, and then Jason Tatum another Achilles

1204
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 6: injury with the Celtics. So with that, there's not a

1205
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 6: predominant favorite. So it's almost like they're going to be

1206
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Speaker 6: that favorite by the fault.

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Speaker 3: How much does the NBA regret this CBA structure or

1208
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 3: second aprin third a. But it's just it's just a

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Speaker 3: bore man like I want these teams to be able

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 3: to be good for as long as possible. You know,

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: it really limits the ability for teams to resign their

1212
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Speaker 3: own guys that they draft and developed. And it's super

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Speaker 3: I'm an MBA fan, it's super complicated. I don't understand

1214
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Speaker 3: any of it. Is there regret that they went this direction.

1215
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 3: They're trying for parody, which I understand, but it just

1216
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: feels like it's not gonna work like they intended.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you one hundred percent. I think in the

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01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 6: present time they don't regret it because they got a

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Speaker 6: great media rights deal that kicks. The next season, it

1220
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Speaker 6: was good basketball. The quality of basketball was good. But

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Speaker 6: I think where where you know everything's gonna catch up

1222
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 6: to them is when the thunder all of a sudden

1223
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 6: can't retain their guys, when Jaylen Williams and Chat Holmer

1224
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 6: and are up for new deals after in two years

1225
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 6: from now, and all of a sudden they have to

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Speaker 6: worry about second ay for the concerns, I think in

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Speaker 6: a way, the NBA and the owners propose this as

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Speaker 6: a way to say, you know what, we'd love to spend,

1229
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 6: but because of these spending restrictions, we can't. You know,

1230
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 6: we have to make tough decisions. But it's almost an

1231
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 6: out to make themselves not look like they're being cheap owners. Right,

1232
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Speaker 6: but when you devise a system that does not allow

1233
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Speaker 6: yourself to retain players that you drafted, well, this doesn't

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 6: address the division of small market big market having better parody.

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 6: So right now it hasn't caught up to them, but

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 6: I think it will, and as a result, it's a

1237
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 6: matter of if not when they'll wind up changing these

1238
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 6: second Apron restrictions because it's forcing teams to make decisions

1239
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 6: that aren't good basketball moves and everything's financially driven, even

1240
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 6: though it's not about owners saving money, it's because they

1241
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 6: literally can't build a roster if they go past the

1242
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 6: second apron with having full access to mid level and

1243
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 6: being able to trade draft this well, Mark, we.

1244
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Speaker 2: Have a lot of things happening in this offseason that

1245
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: we have a lot of interest in. It looks like

1246
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: the Celtics are dismantling their franchise right now. Obviously the

1247
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: Halliburton injury, he could be lost with the year with

1248
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers, the Lakers situation. So you don't mind

1249
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: if we call upon you. Even though the NBA season

1250
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: is quote unquote over, do you.

1251
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 6: The NBA season's never over.

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1253
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 6: I can always gladly talk with you whenever he'd like.

1254
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: Very good, Mark, we always appreciate the time. Thanks so much.

1255
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you down the road.

1256
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 6: I appreciate you.

1257
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: Guys, Mark Medina, there are NBA insider. Now let's find

1258
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: out what is trending as Martin is back right now.

1259
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Speaker 2: Did you watch much of the NBA Draft, Martin, I

1260
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: didn't watch a single pick. Yeah. It was really really

1261
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeay. To me, the draft is a meeting

1262
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: that could have been an email. Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

1263
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Speaker 7: People complain about home and the draft is so boring.

1264
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 7: What are they what are they supposed to be doing

1265
01:04:59,640 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 7: in the.

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Speaker 2: Well, the amazing thing is how the NFL has taken

1267
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: what was a very boring NFL draft and suddenly made

1268
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: it into this mega event. But I guess the NFL

1269
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: can do it. That's crazy.

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Speaker 7: I also wouldn't go to the NFL draft. I think

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 7: it's madness that people go.

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: And I think it is too, But I mean the

1273
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: NBA draft, you know, like everyone's in like little it

1274
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: looks like an award show. They're all sitting round tables.

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01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you. In the NFL when you

1276
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: have guys high fiving, they have a whole room of

1277
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: guys high fiving after a fifth round pick. It's like,

1278
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: come on, I mean.

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01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: But that but that's but that's how much they care

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01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think that's why doing that for the But.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why fans care. At least at least

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: they're faking it that.

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Speaker 2: I was in the room when we drafted we the

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Speaker 2: l A Raiders drafted Bo Jackson. No one was high

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: fiving after that. Nobody, Well you should have been he

1287
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: was that was a good pick. I mean, mister, it was.

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: It turned out to be a great pick. But it

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Speaker 2: sounds like like we had three Hall of famers in

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Speaker 2: the room. He had Al Davis, Ron Wolf and Tom Floors.

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Speaker 3: No one was sound like they should have been excited.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is like this. They just looked at me

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01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: and said, harbor and tell everybody we just drafted bo Jackson. Jeff.

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Speaker 7: This is just like when they say, well, you know,

1295
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 7: back then, nobody shot threes.

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Speaker 2: The line was there. They could have They could have

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's. Just one year, Michael Jordan led the league

1298
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: in scoring, shooting thirteen percent from the three point line.

1299
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: Look at thirteen percent?

1300
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah about the three point line. Recently is there's a

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01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: thing going around the internet where if Kevin Garnett just

1302
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: stepped one foot back on all his twos, he would

1303
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: be a top ten scorer. Yeah, he took the longest

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01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 3: twos of all time. Play now he would be a

1305
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: top ten all time score. He just took one step

1306
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: back for all his jump shots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, Jeff, nobody did it back then.

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01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: Well maybe he should have.

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 7: Tom Floors and now Davis probably could have shared a

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01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 7: high five there when they drafted bow Jacks just looked.

1311
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: At me and said, tell everybody we took both. Well,

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Speaker 2: that was it.

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01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 7: I'll tell everybody was going on in baseball right now.

1314
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 7: Top of the seventh inning, the Pirates lead the Mets

1315
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 7: three to two. Braves with a one nothing lead over

1316
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 7: the Phillies and catch that game on Fox parts of

1317
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 7: the country. Other parts you can see the Cubs in

1318
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 7: the Astros Chicago with a one nothing lead in the

1319
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 7: bottom of the first inning. Bulls traded Lonzo Ball to

1320
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Speaker 7: Cleveland for Isaacacorro.

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Speaker 2: Sam Merrill will stay.

1322
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 7: In Cleveland on a four year, thirty eight million dollar deal,

1323
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 7: and Davion Mitchell will stay in Miami on a two year,

1324
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 7: twenty four million dollar deal. Nas Reed will signed a

1325
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 7: five year, one hundred and twenty five million dollar.

1326
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: Deal stay in Minnesota.

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 7: As Billy, the fifth pick in the draft, reported to

1328
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 7: Utah today, there were some questions about whether or not

1329
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 7: he was going to do that elsewhere in Major League Baseball.

1330
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 7: The A's beat the Yankee seven and nothing, the Tigers

1331
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 7: ten and nothing over the Twins. Ron Washington Angels manager

1332
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 7: is going to remain on medical lead for the remainder

1333
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 7: of the season. Washington is seventy three years old. He's

1334
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 7: the oldest manager in baseball and in the NHL. The

1335
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 7: Anaheim Ducks traded their all time leader in appearances, starts

1336
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 7: and saves for a goaltender that's John Gibson. He's going

1337
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 7: to Detroit for Peter Murazak and two draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys. All right, thank you very much, Martin.

1339
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: As always, great great job. Once again, we're coming live

1340
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios after the show, our

1341
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: podcast is going up, so if you missed any of

1342
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just

1343
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you gets podcasts, and then

1344
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: follow review the podcast. Give us the highest rating. You

1345
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: know you will. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1346
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: you gets you podcasts. See today's show. Posted it right

1347
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: after we get off the air. All right, you mentioned

1348
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and here's what I tell people when they've

1349
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: been asking me about the Mark Walter takeover of the

1350
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: Laker organization. Based on what he has done with the

1351
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Dodger organization, This out is going to play odd, Jeff,

1352
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: So the first year they're right, you know, we're waiting

1353
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: on Lebron and there's nothing Mark Walter can do. It's

1354
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 2: a player option. If he wants to sign it, he's

1355
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: going to get his fifty two million dollars. And it

1356
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: screws the Lakers this year because then they won't have

1357
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: enough money to sign a big man they desperately need

1358
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: that will be of any consequence. So they'll essentially have

1359
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: the exact same team they had a year ago and

1360
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: hoping for better results in the postseason. But what he

1361
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: will evaluate from day one is everything beyond Luka Doncic.

1362
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking players, coach, general manager, front office.

1363
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: Uh you know the Genie Buss surrounded herself with friends

1364
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: and that's fine. That's the way she felt most comfortable.

1365
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: That is not Mark Walter. He can't spend money. You're

1366
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: not going to go over the cap. In the NBA.

1367
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: The penalties are way too severe. It's not about luxury

1368
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 2: tax like if you if you go over the tax,

1369
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: your your first round pick drops to the bottom of

1370
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: the first I mean to the first round. That there's

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: all kinds of penalties. So it's not that where you

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: spend your money. It's getting the best coaches, the best

1373
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: general manager, the best front office people, the best personnel department.

1374
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: That's where the Lakers desperately need upgrades across the board,

1375
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: and everything is circling around Luka Doncic. So you know,

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 2: my my guess is after this first year, based on

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: what happens, uh Lebron's future, uh jj, Reddick's future, Polinka's future,

1378
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: Everyone's future very much in doubt.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Polinka is surely going to be gone.

1380
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 3: It feels like the first thing that he didn't hire Polinka.

1381
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: It's not it's just not. And I think Polica's done

1382
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: a fine job. He got Luca. I mean, I don't

1383
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 3: know how you can be upset about that.

1384
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: Did he get looker, did the league engineer that deal?

1385
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: That's okay, we can talk about that other day. But nonetheless, look,

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the more you hear about this, and we

1387
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: knew some of this is, you know, being la people

1388
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: like the Lakers are cheap, right, So.

1389
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: There's the Bus family didn't have any money. People don't

1390
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: understand this. The money is just based on the perceived value, like.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that. So because this was something that Mark

1392
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 3: Davis dealt with before he moved in Vegas, you know

1393
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 3: there are owners in sports and there's less now that

1394
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 3: their primary business is the sports team they own.

1395
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: The Spanos family with the Chargers identity.

1396
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: The Mara family with the Giant. Now they know that

1397
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 3: the Titians who also in the Giants.

1398
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: That's not for the Brown family with the.

1399
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: Brown family and the Rooneyes like and so then there

1400
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 3: are these people like Stan Kronkey who have seven billion

1401
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: dollars and and David Tepper who have ten billion dollars.

1402
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: And this is one of those guys who has independent

1403
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: wealth outside of a sports team.

1404
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: Right, and he has a Google, heind group behind him,

1405
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: whatever money he's got.

1406
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 3: And as much as I disliked the Dodgers, you have

1407
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 3: to say that what he's done has been very successful.

1408
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: Since he bought the team, they've been the winningest team

1409
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: in all of baseball. They don't have all the World

1410
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: Series to back it up, but they got two. Well,

1411
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 3: to be fair, they have one in one third. They

1412
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: won a third of a championship when they played a

1413
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: third of a season in the bubble. But you know,

1414
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: look all the winning they've done. And it's the use

1415
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: of analytics, right, It's it's the it's the rehab and recovery.

1416
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: And it's spending throughout the entire organization correct and bring

1417
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: in the best.

1418
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: Yes, and and I think it's number one thing that

1419
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: we've seen reports so far is just making sure Luca's

1420
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 3: in shape, right and correct. And I will tell you

1421
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: this though, after the injuries we saw this season with

1422
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: the Achilles, you know, I'm glad he took as much

1423
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: time as needed for us calf because you know, the

1424
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: Dallas trying to rush him back, to call him fat,

1425
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: out of shape, He didn't want to play all those things.

1426
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: And it's like, I'm glad he took us time because

1427
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing all these players with calf injuries ended up

1428
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 3: with achilles injury. So as a Lakers fan, I'm excited

1429
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: for this change. You know, my entire life, the bus

1430
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: families owned the Lakers. I don't know any different. But

1431
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: it seems like this is for the best for the organization.

1432
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 3: And and you know they said ge Bus will stay

1433
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 3: on as a governor.

1434
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: Now, and that's a look. He doesn't want to deal

1435
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 2: with the you know, day to day with you He's

1436
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: got too much on his plate, so.

1437
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: He doesn't do that for the dogs either. He's very

1438
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: behind the.

1439
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: Scenes, he's very behind the scenes. He doesn't want that governor.

1440
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: She has no interest in that. She wants to do

1441
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: it for a while the bus. Look at Jerry Buss.

1442
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: I've said this before. Jerry Buss was not only the

1443
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: greatest team owner in LA sports history, he was certainly

1444
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: the most important owner in the history of the National

1445
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: Basketball Association. Genie is absolutely dedicated to keep her father's

1446
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: legacy alive. She just didn't have the means to do it.

1447
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: The intentions were there, the you know, it's like a

1448
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: for effort and d minus for the actual product that

1449
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: we saw. And so it's you know, and by the way,

1450
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: that's that's a great based on the rest of the

1451
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: Lakers history. I mean, when you start off your run

1452
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: as the owner with six straight losing seasons, it's hard

1453
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: to give yourself anything other than that kind of failing great.

1454
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 3: And because I think from the time Magic got there

1455
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: until basically Kobe left, they didn't never have that run.

1456
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: As soon as Kobe left, they had a run of

1457
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 3: years and years and years of being bad. And even

1458
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: between Magic and Kobe they weren't bad. No, they didn't

1459
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 3: win championships. Put van Exel and de Vat, they weren't

1460
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: a bad basketball team. They were bad after Kobe left.

1461
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: Well remember this when Kobe blew his achilles and then

1462
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: she signed him to a three year, twenty five million

1463
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 2: dollars year contract when he literally could not play anymore.

1464
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, he scored sixty points in his final game.

1465
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: Look at the other years his last year were the Lakers.

1466
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: They were seventeen and six. Okay, so you know it's

1467
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: the intentions were good, they weren't able to deliver on it.

1468
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: Now they have ownership with Mark Walter that will deliver.

1469
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: This is a guy that will get results, and that's

1470
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 2: good for the NBA because they need the Lakers, like

1471
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: the Celtics, to be relevant. All right. Coming up on

1472
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: the other side, some thoughts about another busy week ahead

1473
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: in sports. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Harvey, Jeff Schwartz,

1474
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1475
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: I want to thank our crew today, Martin whit is

1476
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: getting ready for his own show coming up here with

1477
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: Zach Carper and looking forward to that. Martin, great job

1478
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: as always. Mary Mack, I've seen Mary Mack now for

1479
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, well over a year, and she's just having

1480
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: a good time, better time all the time you're understanding

1481
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 2: where you are in life. You need to have a

1482
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: good time. And I'm happy to say Mary Max has

1483
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: been having a great time right Yes, thank you very much.

1484
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of having a good time, He's going to be

1485
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: one of the giants in this industry in the future.

1486
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: I promise you that. Ian is that kind of aptitude,

1487
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: just driven, driven. You gotta you gotta work hard. You know,

1488
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: there's there's there's many many in the younger generation that

1489
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: feel like they're do a handout. Doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 2: You want to succeed, You gotta you gotta work at it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of succeeding, so Jeff Schwartz and

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: I before Jeff went to Countdown, we were together a

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Speaker 2: couple of years, Jeff on a regular basis. We had

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Speaker 2: some great shows. When the Bengals and the Rams played

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. We are out there at the

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: Santa Monica promenade before the Super Bowl. I met your

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: parents out there. I remember you were walking away. I

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: was talking to your mother. She goes, can you believe

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Speaker 2: that's my son. I'm like, you have two of those,

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Speaker 2: not just one, and so wonderful people wonderful family. But

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01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: he I listen religiously to you and bing oh and crack,

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: and I listen to you guys every Sunday morning. And

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: I'm listening to you guys over the last several weeks, right,

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking back to when we did our show together,

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, you guys have spent in one segment

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01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: talking more WNBA than we did. Well, we never mentioned it,

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01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: I'll put this, never once mentioned the WNBA in two

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01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: years together. And yet I'm listening to you guys on

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01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: countdown and they're like, all right, give us some picks,

1510
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: you know, some of the plays, and it's like wnbawnbawnba. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So how talk about this evolution? For you? Jeff?

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Speaker 4: Where?

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I mean I know how you operate.

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean you're very meticulous, you work hard, you do

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: your homework. Doesn't mean you're right all the time. It

1516
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: just means that you put a lot of thought to it.

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01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: When did it happen? When you realize I'm going to

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: actually have to learn the w n b A know

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: the w n b A know the players, know the teams,

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Speaker 2: know the tendencies. And how challenging was that for you?

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Speaker 3: Kaylen Clark. So simple. Yeah, it's that simple. You know.

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 3: I like watching her play. I watch all the Fever games. Now,

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: I watched last night. She didn't play last night. I

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: watched anyways, And you know, I think gambling certainly helps

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 3: that because as of right now, baseball's on. It's just

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01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: a terrible sport to gamble on, you know, baseball, like

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: finding little things like especialty props essentially, like I bet

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01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 3: today the Yankees pitcher not allow a first inning hit.

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01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 3: Things like that are almost more profitable than just betting

1530
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: on teams to win and lose games and totals and whatnot.

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: So this time of year, the w n B A,

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 3: you know, I turned to that to to try to

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 3: get that, you know, to gamble a little bit. And

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Speaker 3: and what's the response been.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just I mean, you wouldn't be talking

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Speaker 2: about if it wasn't getting a positive spots because yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean many times, I'm just not like, I don't

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: know a lot of the players in the WNBA. I do,

1539
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: but every once in a while you'll have pop bet

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01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, over unders on you know, rebounds assist combined,

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01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: or you throw out a name. I'm like I got

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: to look this up. What is this? Well? I think

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: she done so far.

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Speaker 3: If you win wagers, no one cares what sport it is,

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 3: of course, yes, but you know, I think, like tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: we have one, two, three, four, five w A big

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: games tomorrow, So I imagine we do our show tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'll have something for us. I mean the Sun that

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01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, and then it comes down to a

1550
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: lot of trends, right, Like that's what it comes down to.

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01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 3: So like I don't watch a ton of these teams play,

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 3: but I follow box scores and pay attention enough to know,

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: for example, like the Sun are just atrocious. They're twenty

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: and a half point underdog tomorrow, and so you just

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01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 3: follow enough and you figure it out as you go.

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01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: So that's probably again it's a Kailyn clarkerffect. Like I

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: didn't watch anything till Tokayla Clark. I tell you, I

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: take you back a little bit. Sobrina and esc went

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: to Oregon. Yep, they would have won a championship if

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Speaker 3: not for COVID. So I've tracked her career a little bit.

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 2: That three point shooty contest with Steph Curry.

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Speaker 3: Steph and so I tracked her career in the w

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Speaker 3: NB a little bit. I didn't watch oby much of

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Speaker 3: the postseason, but now it dude, it is a different

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01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: sport than the NBA. I'll tell you that it is.

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Speaker 3: It's just different. You have to accept it. If you're

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 3: going to watch the w n b A, you accept

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01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 3: it for what it is. There's a lot of high

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 3: level play with the good teams that there is some

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Speaker 3: very bad play.

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Speaker 2: From Okay, here's the bottom line. Like you say, is

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Speaker 2: it an easier sport to bet on and win? And

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Speaker 2: let's just say the NBA, yes, Okay.

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Speaker 3: NBA is super difficult. I'm more profitable in the w

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Speaker 3: NBA than I am.

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: And see, sometimes that's all you're looking for. I'm looking

1577
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: for something where I feel like I get an edge

1578
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: by just doing a little homework where a lot of

1579
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: people may be not doing their homework.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, w n b A you can make, you can make.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the I'm on the Mystics tonight. No no

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Speaker 3: page Beckers in Dallas tonight.

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: That's right, Beckers is out. I watched that as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Jeff, it's great as always to catch

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Speaker 2: up with you. Will be listening tomorrow morning. Thank you

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Speaker 2: get ready for Martin Wis and Zach Harper. Keep it here.

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