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Speaker 2: emg App. We're live from your tailgate. Here's Brian Nook,

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Speaker 2: former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger, and FSR betting

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Speaker 2: analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here.

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Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you on a conference championship Saturday.

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Speaker 4: If you will, hope all is well. Hope the day

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Speaker 4: is off to a great start.

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Speaker 5: You know we're gonna get to of course, the conference

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Speaker 5: champi and hip game matchups. We'll get to the college

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Speaker 5: football playoff picture. A lot of moving parts here. The

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Speaker 5: committee's getting very cold feet when it comes to my irish.

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Speaker 5: I'm not happy about this, but uh hey, we start

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Speaker 5: off with Penn.

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Speaker 4: State's got a head coach.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 5: Someone finally said, yes, finally, I'll go to the ball

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Speaker 5: with you, says Matt Campbell.

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Speaker 4: But first, good morning, Good morning, Rich, Good morning Jared.

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Speaker 4: Everything good with you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Everything's great.

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Speaker 6: Everything's seems to be coming up Nitney Lions this morning.

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Speaker 3: My goodness.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, all is right in the happiest valley

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Speaker 6: of all state college Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: My good funky route to get there though, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would agree. I like the Higher.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of what I was thinking would happen.

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Speaker 6: It's not the sexiest Higher. It's certainly not a name

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Speaker 6: that was being screamed from the mountaintop, says one of

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Speaker 6: the well, frankly many possibilities for the job when it

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Speaker 6: became open.

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Speaker 3: And also, I think that.

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Speaker 6: You know, this being a coach with head coaching credibility,

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Speaker 6: a decade's worth at a program that he really helped

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Speaker 6: turn around and then keep at the top of its

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Speaker 6: conference in college football. I think it's good Higher. I

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Speaker 6: really do.

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Speaker 3: It's a strong higher.

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Speaker 6: And I think the one thing that I'm a little

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Speaker 6: hesitant because I don't know is how is this going

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Speaker 6: to work out on the recruiting trail and the transfer portal.

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Speaker 6: I'll have to do a deeper dive on, you know,

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Speaker 6: some of the players he was able to lure to

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Speaker 6: the program while he was the Cyclones head coach. And

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Speaker 6: think on that a little bit further, but knee.

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Speaker 3: Jerk reaction to it.

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Speaker 6: I figured I'd like the hire because you'd figure that

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Speaker 6: Penn State would be able to bait and reel in

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Speaker 6: a real coach, and that's what they did. Matt Campbell's

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Speaker 6: a real football coach. This guy knows ball, he knows

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Speaker 6: how to win, he knows how to turn a program around.

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Speaker 3: And I like the hire. What are your thoughts, Jared,

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Speaker 3: they kind of failed up frankly, Yep, as crazy as

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Speaker 3: that sounds, they went after the biggest of the big fish,

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Speaker 3: who had no desire to come to Penn State. They

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Speaker 3: definitely had a desire to get a raise, and they

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Speaker 3: definitely took advantage of that. Twenty twenty five was absolutely

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Speaker 3: the year that James Franklin got like half the coaches

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Speaker 3: in college football raised. But once once the Sataki thing

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Speaker 3: fell through, that was definitely the rock bottom moment. And

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Speaker 3: from what I was told, Sataki was the guy for

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Speaker 3: a long period of time. At the beginning, it was Elko,

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Speaker 3: it was Drinkuts, it was Marcus Freeman's name was put

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Speaker 3: out there Brent Key, Caitlin de boor you had no

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Speaker 3: chance of getting any of those guys. Those guys all

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Speaker 3: kind of used Penn State as a fiddle. Sataki was

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Speaker 3: based off of what I was told, Like it was,

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Speaker 3: there were real conversations, they actually had a verbal agreement,

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Speaker 3: and that was the end of it. And then once

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Speaker 3: not the average football program. I just didn't think it was.

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Speaker 3: It was like hubris of Pat Kraft's part to even

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Speaker 3: go after him. The best candidate was Matt Campbell the

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Speaker 3: whole time, throughout the entire process, and credit Josh Paid

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Speaker 3: who actually said this like a month ago. The best

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Speaker 3: They didn't look at him, they didn't talk to him

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Speaker 3: fell into their lap. I do think he'll bring some

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Speaker 3: pretty high level talent. I mean, let's just go down

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Speaker 3: the list, Breeste Hall, David Montgomery, Brock Perdy, Jays Higgins,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Uel in this draft Peer in this draft on

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Speaker 3: the same team to the Houston Texans. They've got some

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Speaker 3: guys that can play that have come through that program

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Speaker 3: very recently. So I think now that you up the

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Speaker 3: spend on the roster, I think it'll work. I sometimes

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Speaker 3: things take weird directions and paths to get there. We've

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Speaker 3: all had this happen in our careers and in other

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Speaker 3: it just kind of shoots off in the other direction.

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Speaker 3: But I think the end results pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what's so weird is the path where they

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Speaker 5: just Penn State was getting turned down left and right,

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Speaker 5: and then they ended up and you're like, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 5: It's like they're like spitting game at Kalanie Sataki and

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Speaker 5: it's like, hey, are you free on Friday? And Kilanie's like, no,

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Speaker 5: I'm not free on Friday. You kidd meet Jeff brom Hey,

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Speaker 5: you want to you want to hang out sometimes, Jeff, No,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to hang out. Hey, Matt ruhle, you

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Speaker 5: want to like net flicks and chill over it? I

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Speaker 5: want any part of that. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: it's like, hey, uh, you want to grab some ice cream?

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Speaker 5: Dua Lipa and d was just like, yeah, sure, I love.

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Speaker 4: Ice cream, and Penn State's like really like that. They

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Speaker 4: ended up with, like Matt Campbell, that's pretty good. That's

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Speaker 5: If you said, hey, I'm dating Dua right now, you'd

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Speaker 5: be like, wow, that's wow, that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Great job, but just such a weird path.

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Speaker 5: But they ended up with a dude that's got the credentials,

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Speaker 5: he's highly thought of. We'll see what type of job

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Speaker 5: he does at Penn State. But the route was so weird.

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Speaker 5: And have you guys seen these reports that they initially

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Speaker 5: Penn State initially put out it's feelers to see if

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Speaker 5: if Matt Campbell was interested in the job, And apparently

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Speaker 5: it was like the wrong inner circle that they reached

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Speaker 5: out to. I don't even understand what's going on here.

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Speaker 5: So I could just picture these dopes at Penn State, like,

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Speaker 5: let's see if Campbell's interested, and someone at the table's like,

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Speaker 5: I think he's got a friend named.

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Speaker 7: Todd and It's like, let's get to Campbell's who going

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Speaker 7: after Let's see I think he knows a guy named Matt, Like, well,

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Speaker 7: let's get the other Matt on the phone and see

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Speaker 7: if Matt Campbell's what are you?

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Speaker 5: You're reaching out to the wrong people in the inner circle.

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Speaker 4: How ridiculous is that?

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Speaker 5: But that was the story, is that they put out

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Speaker 5: their feelers in the wrong direction and they didn't even

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Speaker 4: How crazy is that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to embarrass anybody because because these stories

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Speaker 6: can be embarrassing. But I was talking to a general

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Speaker 6: manager one time about situations like that, like because.

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Speaker 3: Something happened or was reported on.

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Speaker 6: That was like it was similar to what you're talking about, Brian,

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Speaker 6: where you know it was misconnection that led to this,

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Speaker 6: that led to this. Well, there are so many examples

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Speaker 6: of a sudden there was an injury on a roster

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Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, they're like.

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Speaker 6: We need a kicker, So if your guy doesn't answer

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Speaker 6: the phone in an hour, we're moving on to the

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Speaker 6: next kicker. And so all of a sudden, the next

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Speaker 6: about us, And they're like, no, we're on the phone

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Speaker 6: with the other guy now. And like literally, there have

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Speaker 6: been situations where because a guy was sleeping or a

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Speaker 3: And then you start hearing the story about the way.

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Speaker 6: The season went for that team that hired the guy

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Speaker 6: a sudden, boom, it's a success. It actually doesn't shock

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Speaker 6: me because these things happen more often than you think.

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Speaker 6: What these with these these these colleges, these football programs do.

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Speaker 6: They hire basically an outside consultancy and they get in

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Speaker 6: they the firm that they entrust to help them through

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Speaker 6: the coaching surge. They're the ones that put out the feelers.

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Speaker 6: So like when Penn State and their board of trustees

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Speaker 6: or you know, their general manager or their athletic director says, hey,

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Speaker 6: we haven't reached out to anybody.

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Speaker 3: This football program hasn't reached out to anybody.

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Speaker 6: That is true because a consulting firm has reached out

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Speaker 6: to date information on the correct agent to call. So

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Speaker 6: I mean, as ridiculous as that sound, and as like bonkers.

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Speaker 6: You know, in our Lord's year twenty twenty five, that's

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Speaker 6: someone didn't have the right phone number for Matt Campbell's

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Speaker 6: people and they ended up calling the people who make

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Speaker 6: And God blessed the broken road that led him straight

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Speaker 6: to us.

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Speaker 3: That's all I have to say.

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Speaker 6: As a former Nitny lion, I think, like I said,

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Speaker 6: the more we talk about it this morning, the more

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Speaker 6: my mind ups reeling on what's next, what's next, what's next?

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Speaker 6: And start settling into Okay, Hopefully this guy can rehash.

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Speaker 3: Basically what he was able to do with a Toledo.

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Speaker 6: Program prior to being the Iowa State head coach and

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Speaker 6: where he was a winner with both of those programs.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna work out.

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Speaker 6: I think Penn State did a nice job hiring him,

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Speaker 6: even though they did a poor job of getting his

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it feel better in a minute, rich,

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Speaker 3: even better than you feel this morning. But first, what

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Speaker 3: you're describing is the reason why I get anxiety about

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Speaker 3: ever leaving my phone, because I remember even a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. A few weeks ago, I was out running

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Speaker 4: That's a great gig for you. Oh yeah, And Brian

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Speaker 4: So it does happen. Craziness does take place.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, that's the reason why some of

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Speaker 6: Look, fifty seven million people tuned in for Cowboys Chiefs

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Speaker 6: And so in college football, when the Bammas of the world,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. A little humble pie, I think definitely. Penn State

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Speaker 3: It was obvious that they thought this was going to

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Speaker 3: was a rough week, definitely, But I don't know. You

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Speaker 3: that's kind of how it felt this week, but it's

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Speaker 3: The recruiting class was a disaster, I mean an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm worried.

436
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Speaker 5: I'm worried to dam at my wits end, worried about

437
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: this committee getting cold feet with Notre Dame and having

438
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 5: Bama jump them. And now if Miami's next door to

439
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 5: Notre Dame, this changes thing.

440
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: What are you guys talking about. I'm worried. I'm worried

441
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: right now.

442
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: But it boils down to Notre Tame is certainly not

443
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 5: a lock, and we'll see if they can get in

444
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: or not.

445
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 6: Yes, I I okay, So as we come down the stretch. Look,

446
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 6: I'm I'm willing to completely admit when I'm wrong. This

447
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 6: is a closer race than I assumed it would be.

448
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 6: And if I have to admit, man be no was

449
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 6: right all along, I'll be happy to. You know, given

450
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 6: the head to head victory or loss against Miami earlier,

451
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 6: I still think an Alabama loss in the SEC championship

452
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 6: game still gives them the angle to be that nine

453
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 6: seed in the bracket, like you know, or really a

454
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 6: seed in the bractet. We'll see where they land, but

455
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: I do think that Notre Dame is in still and

456
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 6: still get the nod over Miami. Now, don't get me wrong,

457
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 6: I've been wrong about these predictions in the past and

458
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: that's what's so confounding about the playoff picture. I wish

459
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 6: there was an easier way to determine, or more straightforward

460
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 6: way to know what these selectors are discussing or what

461
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 6: they're acknowledging more or less, because I think that transparency

462
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 6: would actually make college football fans enjoy this process more.

463
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 6: There's got to be a way to welcome not necessarily

464
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 6: more voices or opinions into the room, but just more

465
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 6: eyes on a great product. You know, I think we

466
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 6: should know more than we do, essentially, is what I'm saying.

467
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 6: But look, we don't live in a utopia. I don't

468
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 6: think that ever really will happen, because I do think

469
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 6: sometimes conversations behind the scenes are circled around things that

470
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 6: probably shouldn't matter, like, hey, which team is gonna do

471
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: better for television ratings? Like I do think that conversation

472
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 6: essentially does happen at a certain point when you're getting

473
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 6: down to the nitty gritty, and that's unfortunate because I

474
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 6: don't think that's what you should look at if you are,

475
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 6: if you are the the committee that decides on which

476
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 6: team stays and which team goes in terms of a

477
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 6: playoff bracket.

478
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: But I digress.

479
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 6: Is there a possibility that Notre Dame doesn't make the playoff?

480
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: Yes? Do I think it's a likely scenario even still today? No,

481
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I'm with Brian on this one. Yeah,

482
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: I think mark tape, Mark tape. I think the flip

483
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: was intentional. I mean, let's be honest. Bama did not,

484
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: you know, blow the doors off of Auburn over the weekend.

485
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 3: They got out to a nice lead, they lost the

486
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: running back who's probably not gonna play today, who is

487
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: actually running it really well. But that is not a

488
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: positive for moving them up in the rankings. But they did.

489
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: And I don't want to say it was like a

490
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 3: Maya Kolpa by the committee.

491
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was.

492
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Speaker 3: It kind of felt out of place, right. I didn't

493
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: understand why they moved BAM up in the rankings. I

494
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: didn't get it, and why they moved Notre Dame down.

495
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 3: It didn't make any sense to me. There was no

496
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: evidence based off of their play last Saturday, for that

497
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: to take place, but they did it, and I think

498
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: they kind of nudged us closer to the inevitable outcome.

499
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: And to be fair, as much as Notre Dame I

500
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: think is a top five power rated team, but there's

501
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: a difference between best team and most deserving. Notre Dame

502
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: is better than Miami. If they played tomorrow, Notre Dame

503
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: would be favored, but they played already and Miami won,

504
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 3: So we have to take that into account. And if

505
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: we don't take it into account, then we are opening

506
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 3: up an entire new Pandora's Box of crap that we

507
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: have to sift through to figure out who are the

508
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: twelve teams they are going to pick for this playoff. Now,

509
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: BYU can do everyone a favor in about three hours

510
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: and just beat Texas Tech, and then it won't matter

511
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: because then neither Notre Dame or Miami will be getting in,

512
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: and they'll put in BYU and Texas Tech probably will

513
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: drop to the ten seed, and then we'll just go

514
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: from there. I don't know if that'll happen. It's unlikely

515
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: obviously as a double digit underdog, but also, to be fair,

516
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: stranger things have happened, especially on Championship Saturday, so let's

517
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: not completely rule that out. But I do agree with

518
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: Brian's premise. In a vacuum BYU losing their out, Notre

519
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: Dame then is kissed up against Miami and the rankings,

520
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: and at that point you have to take the head

521
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: to head more seriously when you are evaluating both of

522
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 3: those teams.

523
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's a little bit like how we started

524
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: off the show with Penn State, right. It's it's the

525
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: right outcome, but it was the wrong path. And that's

526
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: what you're seeing with this playoff committee. And in my opinion,

527
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: in a couple of instances, and coincidentally, my Irish are

528
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 5: involved in both of them. If you look at Notre

529
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: Dame versus Alabama, I think that it's the right outcome

530
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: that Alabama was ranked higher, but the wrong path. So

531
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: if you go back three weeks ago, you had Alabama

532
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 5: lose to Oklahoma and Alabama dropped below Notre Dame at

533
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 5: the time, and so for the next two weeks, Notre

534
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: Dame was ranked ahead of Alabama. I didn't agree with that.

535
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: I thought Alabama's resume was better. Alabama had many more

536
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: impressive wins than Notre Dame did. Now Notre Dame had

537
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: better losses, but the better wins check mark went to

538
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: Alabama easily. Like Alabama played a gauntlet compared to Notre

539
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 5: Dame schedule, so I never would have had Notre Dame

540
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: ahead of Alabama for the last couple of weeks that

541
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: the committee did. But the committee, they basically looked at

542
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: it and they tried to oversell the win over Auburn

543
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 5: when it was really like, you know what, we probably

544
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: should have had Alabama over Notre Dame this whole time,

545
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, And so they're like, this is what Hunter you'

546
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: achech had to say, the committee chair, this is just laughable.

547
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 10: Notre Dame went on the road, had a strong win

548
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 10: at Stanford, but Alabama went on the road and a

549
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 10: rivalry game looked really good, especially in the first half.

550
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 10: Getting up seventeen to nothing.

551
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: Oh my lord, like, what are we doing right now?

552
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: It was seventeen seventeen after.

553
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: That lead that went away, But oh man, that the

554
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: first half from Alabama really impressive.

555
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: What are you guys talking?

556
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: That's when games are won, Brian, in the first half, right,

557
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: everyone knows that it's so bad.

558
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, and it was another one of those deals

559
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 5: where it's like, hey, if if BAMA loses to Georgia

560
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 5: in the SEC title game, we probably should have Bama

561
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: ninth because they're on the chopping block. If they're yeah,

562
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 5: they're absolutely that went into it. So I think it's

563
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 5: the right outcome that Bama's ranked ahead of Notre Dame.

564
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: Wrong path.

565
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: You can't just to fight doing that after they barely

566
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 5: beat war Eagle, a five and seven team, you know,

567
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 5: like a riverboat gambling at the end on the fourth

568
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: and two conversion.

569
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: That was crazy.

570
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 5: And the other one, I'll say real fast is Notre

571
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 5: Dame versus Miami. Now I've said on this show many

572
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: times as a Notre Dame die hard from South Bend,

573
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: that Miami should be ranked ahead of Notre Dame. If

574
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: it's down to the final spot, Miami should get it.

575
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: Notre Dame should not.

576
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: When you have a head to head win, that's the

577
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: trump card. I get it.

578
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: If Notre Dame played Murderer's Row and Miami played the

579
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: weakest schedule in the history college football, find their neck

580
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: and neck in strength of schedule.

581
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: It's slightly to Notre Dame's favor. In that case.

582
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: You have to consider head to head, and the committee

583
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: is saying, well, you know, one idle team can jump

584
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: another idle team.

585
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: Hmm.

586
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: I wonder which idle teams they're They're talking about Miami

587
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: and Notre Dame and if they're next door to each other,

588
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: somehow this changes everything in the committee's mind, which is

589
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: laughable again, but I think that Notre Dame should have

590
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 5: been ranked below Miami this whole time. And I think

591
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 5: if it's down to the final spot, which it very

592
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 5: well could be, I think the Committee is gonna put

593
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: Miami in there.

594
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: It's been nothing but.

595
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 5: Week after week after week where these talking heads are like,

596
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: you have to consider head to head, what is the

597
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: committee doing?

598
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: And they're already starting to get cold feet. You can

599
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: tell they are.

600
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: And I think if it's in the Miami and it's

601
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: that that last spot, they're gonna go with the Canes.

602
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: I really think they're gonna do that.

603
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 6: I I don't think so. And here's the reason why.

604
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: It's because and and again I'm happy.

605
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: To be wrong, but I I pray you're wrong, right, No, no, no, And.

606
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: I know you do.

607
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 6: And I think there's a lot of Golden domers out

608
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 6: there who hope I'm wrong or or or yeah, like,

609
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 6: who hope I have it right about out Notre Dame

610
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 6: making their way into the postseason, because let's face it,

611
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 6: we have precedent for this where the best team goes

612
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 6: to the CFP, not the most deserving team. You had

613
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 6: a Florida State team with Jordan Travis. We actually talked

614
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 6: about this a week or two ago, who was undefeated

615
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 6: in the twenty twenty three CFP. And it feels like

616
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 6: deja vous all over again because we had the same

617
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: conversation about one loss, Texas or Alabama both being better teams,

618
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 6: better teams based on Florida State's quarterback situation where you

619
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 6: have a backup playing. But it didn't matter to the committee.

620
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: It didn't matter who was the most deserving. They just said, hey,

621
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 6: look Texas and Bama, they are going to be better

622
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 6: options for us in this postseason bracket than Florida State.

623
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: And then you also have that told just so lost.

624
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 6: To Georgia in the Orange that everybody sort of wrung

625
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: their hands about who are Seminoles fans saying, well, they

626
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 6: were demoralized, a lot of people sat out of the bowl.

627
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: Game, etc. Etc.

628
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 6: This is a can of worms that they've opened in

629
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: their very recent history, and guess what they're gonna catch

630
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 6: so much less flack for this, even though there's a

631
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 6: head to head victory They're gonna catch so much less

632
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 6: flack for this because we're talking about the bottom of

633
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: a twelve team bracket as opposed to the very tippy

634
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: top of college football as we know it. We're talking

635
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 6: about the four seed, we're talking about a conference champion.

636
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 6: We're talking about an undefeated team. And yes, tragedies struck.

637
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: They found a way to finish the season the right

638
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 6: way for the Seminoles, and that is very different. I

639
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 6: understand the situations aren't the same, but the feeling is

640
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 6: the same, where the better team is going to make

641
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 6: it as opposed to the more deserving team. And I

642
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: think you can make plenty arguments about how Miami made

643
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 6: deserve it more, and you can make and and trust me,

644
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 6: I'll believe them. But I think they want Notre Dame

645
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 6: to be there more, and I think that's a more

646
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 6: compelling argument for the committee.

647
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: Then then we realize, Yeah, I kind of feel like

648
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: the nudge in the rankings was your foreshadowing. I think

649
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: Notre Dame is a better team. I do, I really do.

650
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: I've got them rated higher. I think every power rating

651
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: service in the country that I've seen has them rated higher.

652
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: But when you play each other and you lose. I mean,

653
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Speaker 3: it's it's hard for me to make that argument. It's

654
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Speaker 3: really hard for me to make the argument for Notre

655
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Speaker 3: Dame to get in, very hard, hard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the tough part. Like, last thing I'll say is,

657
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Speaker 5: as a Notre Dame fan, if Miami got the nod

658
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: over Notre Dame, part of me wouldn't hate it because

659
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 5: I think that's what should happen, right, But the other

660
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 5: part of me would absolutely despise it because the committee,

661
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 5: week after week after through week, despite what everybody is saying,

662
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: they're like, no, no, no, Notre Dame over Miami every week,

663
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: and then at the last minute, when this is the

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Speaker 5: only poll that matters, right, like this is the only

665
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: this determines who's in and who's out, then at the

666
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 5: last minute you're like, yeah, no, Miami over Notre Dame.

667
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: We're kind of just kidding the whole time.

668
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: It's like what you've done to the ken Bai No no, no,

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00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 5: Notre Dame over Miami, and then at the last second,

670
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 5: the eleventh hour, then you flip flop them.

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00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: That would suck.

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Speaker 5: So it's a weird, weird scenario to be living in

673
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Speaker 5: as a Notre Dame Fan.

674
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: But we'll see how it works out, man. We'll see right.

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Speaker 5: We've got rich Oroornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith, FSR,

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Speaker 5: Betting Analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next to parlay platter,

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Speaker 5: which have one selection for you.

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Speaker 4: We pull it together for a greater payout. Hey, we

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Speaker 4: hit last week. Let's see if we can go back

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Speaker 4: to back.

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Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to kick Off presented

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Check this out our late letter.

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Speaker 5: All right, we each have one selection for you. We

692
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Speaker 5: pull it together for a greater payout. And before we

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Speaker 5: unveil the platter this week, how about we look backward

694
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: to the platter last week.

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Speaker 4: It was a hit it was a win.

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00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: Jared had a Vandy and Tennessee over sixty eight and

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Speaker 5: a half. It got there, got to the magical number,

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Speaker 5: if you will. We had rich unlv Nevada over fifty

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Speaker 5: three and a half.

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Speaker 4: It got there. I took Miami and pitt under twenty

701
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: four and a half in the first half and we

702
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: had to hold on for dear life.

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: That one got harry at the end, but I think

704
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: it was the cane settled for a field goal at

705
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: the end of the first half, something like that.

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00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: But anyway, we hit home. We got home with the boost.

707
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: It was plus seven ninety eight, so basically eight to one.

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00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: That's a nice little hit right there to start off

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00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: your day. Eight to one. So we'll try to do

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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: it again. Jared, what do you have for us today?

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Speaker 3: We did two this year, which I think is a

712
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: record for US in one season, so good on us.

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00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: I made a little adjustment. I know I sent you

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00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: guys a touchdown prop, but I'm gonna make an adjustment

715
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 3: because I wanted to get out of the same game

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Speaker 3: parlay mode. Because you can't use the boost in a

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00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: same game parlay. It has to be just a regular parlay,

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00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: right A parlay boost to oken twenty five percent of MGM.

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Speaker 3: It's a great, you know, advantage when you can use that,

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to use that. So instead of going

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Speaker 3: with a prop in the Virginia game, I'll leave that

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Speaker 3: for Ridge. I'm gonna give you BYU plus twelve and

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00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: a half. I think this number is just a heavy.

724
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: So this number was thirteen when they played a few

725
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: weeks ago in Loving and now it's essentially the same

726
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: price on a neutral. So do I think BYU is

727
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: gonna win the game? I think they've got a puncher's chance,

728
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: but I think Texas Tech's the better team. I just

729
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: think the numbers a little heavy. I gave it out

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Speaker 3: this week one of the videos I do for BETMGM

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Speaker 3: during the week, I gave it out, so I'll do

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Speaker 3: it for this particular parlay so we can take full

733
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Speaker 3: advantage of the poost. So BYU plus twelve and a

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Speaker 3: half the first lection.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm going to give you Virginia's team total, which

736
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: is thirty and a half over Duke. Look, Virginia should

737
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Speaker 6: move the ball super.

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Speaker 3: Easily, Duke.

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Speaker 6: They're outside the top one hundred in explosive run defense.

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00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 6: They allow four and a half points per scoring position

741
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: drive and have a hard time keeping teams out of

742
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Speaker 6: their side of the field.

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Speaker 3: Expect to Cavs to put up points with their their

744
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: strong rushing game.

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 6: They have some distinct red zone advantages, not only how

746
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 6: they score in that area of the field, but also

747
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 6: how Duke defends in that area of the field.

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Speaker 3: I think there are gonna be many visits to the Dukey.

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Speaker 6: Side of the field, and I think the Calves will

750
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 6: be able to finish in the end zone often. So

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00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 6: give me Calves Virginia over They're thirty and a half

752
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 6: team total.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. It dawned on me just a

754
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: couple of minutes ago. I'm like, man, there's been an

755
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: opportunity for weeks now that I haven't seen until this

756
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: very moment where we know that Jared he turns into

757
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 5: Mama Bear mode with Alabama. You know, he turns into

758
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Speaker 5: a protective mama bear. And to get him out of

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Speaker 5: that mode, you know, protecting the kin known as the

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00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: Crimson Tide over here, all I had to do was

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00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: fade Alabama in the parlay pladder and if correct and

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Speaker 5: if it cashes.

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Speaker 4: Right, it's a game changer.

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Speaker 3: Is it not rich? I mean, listen, I am not

765
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: opposed to winning money. I will bet against my own

766
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: team if it means I'm gonna win money. Yeah, dude,

767
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 3: and Jallabama, to be perfectly fair, is not my team

768
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: defense state of law.

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Speaker 6: And he has been against them before yea.

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Speaker 4: So with that in mind, here give me the dogs.

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00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 5: Give me Georgia minus a point and a half against Alabama,

772
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Speaker 5: and listen, there are many reasons for this too. Bama,

773
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Speaker 5: like all year long, they've had no running game. They've

774
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: got a couple of running backs banged up, so that hurts.

775
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: It's like the Daniel Hill Show. Now, Uh, jam Miller

776
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: is probably out. Like they've got a couple of guys

777
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 5: banged up. They're not gonna run it on Georgia. Ryan

778
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 5: Williams has disappeared over the last month. I don't know

779
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: what's going on with that. And ty Simpson has been

780
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 5: his shakiest lately compared to the rest of the season.

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00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: He's been pretty stellar the whole season, except at the

782
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 5: end he's a little bit more inaccurate.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more jittery.

784
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Speaker 5: So I like the Dogs plus are minus a point

785
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: and a half against throw Tide today.

786
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Speaker 3: I don't hate it. Plus six forty without the boost,

787
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Speaker 3: it's plus five to six teams.

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00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: Okay, not bad.

789
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Speaker 5: Let's do it back to back over here, coming up next?

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 5: Can this team do something it hasn't done?

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00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

792
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: What is going on?

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00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you? Happy uh selection Sunday eve to you?

794
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: If you will, right, sure, we'll get to the Big

795
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 5: Ten title game. Team trying to do something that it

796
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 5: hasn't done in nearly six decades. First though, throughout the

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00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 5: entire football season, bet MGM will offer all different types

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Speaker 5: of no sweat tokens and odds boost tokens. Be on

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Speaker 5: boost tokens, and so much more. All Right, we've got

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00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 5: IU against Ohio State. Both teams are twelve and zero.

802
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 5: Little bit of Ohio State by back, it's up to

803
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: four and a half now that the Buckeyes are favored

804
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: by How about this Indiana playing for its first Big

805
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: Ten title in fifty eight years? And uh, listen, man,

806
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 5: there's a lot on the line here where if you

807
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: look both teams, yes, you're looking at trying to have

808
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: a first round by in the playoffs. That's big of

809
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: course Indiana, like I just said, trying to win a

810
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 5: Big Ten title for the first time in almost six decades,

811
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: that's a big thing right there. If you could beat

812
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: the defending champion Ohio State Buck guys in the Big

813
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: Ten championship game, that'd be a monstrous deal for IU.

814
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 5: And of course this little Heisman detail that we'll get

815
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 5: to in a little bit more greater detail later this hour,

816
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 5: but I mean surface level when you look at Fernando Mendoza,

817
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: you look at Julian saying, a lot on the line

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00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 5: in terms of Heisman Trophy is the.

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00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: Most prestigious award in college football.

820
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 5: So a lot of people think the winner of this

821
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: game is probably gonna win the Heisman, unless it's Julian

822
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: saying it's like, well, if saying wins, they is probably

823
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 5: gonna be Diego Pavia, right, Like, that's what a lot

824
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: of people are saying. If it's Mendoza who wins and

825
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: plays well, he's a shoe win to win the awards.

826
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Speaker 5: So a lot on the line here today. It's not

827
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: one of those well shoulder shrug if you lose, big deal,

828
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: still get a buy. I think there's more to it

829
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 5: than just that. And I don't think I you and

830
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: a loss is guaranteed a first round by so a

831
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: couple of layers to think about in this one here.

832
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I'm so glad you brought up the importance

833
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 6: of the winner the loss, and I want to comment

834
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 6: on that before I handicap this game at all. If

835
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 6: anybody out there doubts the level of importance for a

836
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: conference championship, even though we now have a college football

837
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 6: playoff where both of these teams obviously will be in

838
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 6: that playoff, it matters. It still matters. It matters in

839
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 6: a big way. You get to go home with the

840
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: hats and the T shirts and the rings when you

841
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 6: beat your rival, your conference rival, in a conference championship game.

842
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 6: You get that for the rest of your life. Nobody

843
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 6: can take that away from you. You are twenty twenty

844
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 6: five Big Ten champs, and twice in my career at

845
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 6: Penn State, I was able to say that, And that

846
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 6: is man, It's something that I'm proud of. A lot

847
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 6: of hard work, that's a lot of toil that goes

848
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: into that effort. And so these teams, I promise you,

849
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 6: any teams who are performing this Saturday, or have performed

850
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 6: already in their conference championship game.

851
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: It matters.

852
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: It matters regardless of where they'll land on the CFP

853
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 6: or how protected their.

854
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: Pole position is.

855
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 6: So getting beyond that, look, you know, there is a

856
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: chance that Indiana keeps it clos or even potentially wins

857
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: this game, and Mendoza looks somewhat pedestrian if the game

858
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: plan is to really do what I think they're going

859
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 6: to do. And we'll see how the game actually plays out.

860
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 6: But I think Indiana has a slight edge in the

861
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 6: run game against this Ohio State defense, and I think

862
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: if they can keep them off balance in standard downs

863
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 6: where they're gaining on them, they're getting into third and manageable.

864
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: They don't have to lean on Mendoza to be their hero.

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00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: They're not way.

866
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 6: Behind the sticks against Ohio State, or I should say

867
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 6: way behind on the scoreboard against Ohio State.

868
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: They can keep it close or.

869
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: Win this game, and Mendoza can look average, you know

870
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 6: what I mean, He can have a good game.

871
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: He would be on the winning side, but nothing to

872
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: write home about.

873
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 6: And actually that's my lean in this game is I

874
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 6: kind of like, I kind of like Indiana on the spread,

875
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 6: because I think they're going to find a way to

876
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 6: keep this close. And that's what I would do, you know,

877
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 6: against this Ohio State defense that can be had by

878
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 6: my inside zone concepts. I think I would attack the

879
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: soft middle of their defense with our run game, try

880
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 6: to control the clock. And while Julian Saying has had

881
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 6: success against the type of defense we run, which is

882
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: primarily the Hoosiers run cover two, I think you could.

883
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 6: I think he could have success on the ground to

884
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 6: control the clock and control the tempo.

885
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: Of this game. Yeah, Matt Patricia and his approach, It's

886
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: gonna be interesting here because the Buckeys have not allowed

887
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: seventeen points in a game all year, and they've been

888
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: so good on defense. It's been silly how good they've

889
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: been defensively. And we were unsure what the defense would

890
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: look like coming into the year. But I think Matt

891
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: Patricia's done a great job. When you go back and

892
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: watch the game last year, now, it's a different defense

893
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: last year, right, completely different defense. But the game last year,

894
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 3: Ohios they played a lot more man against this Indiana

895
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: team than they typically do, and I think that makes

896
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: sense because when you look at Indiana's offense. I think

897
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: they're a capable offense. I love Mendoza. I think he's

898
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: a really smart kid. I think playing a lot of

899
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: his own against him is probably not the best idea

900
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 3: because I think he's smart enough to pick it apart.

901
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: But the one thing Indiana lacks is that legit burner

902
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: that's gonna just take the top off your defense. So

903
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: playing man makes sense to me. And when you look

904
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: at Mendoza's you know numbers this year against man, they've

905
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: been kind of average, you know, seven and a half

906
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: yards per attempt, seven big time throws to four turnover

907
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: where he plays just a fifty seven percent completion rate.

908
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: He's been much better against zone. So I think Ignosim

909
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: and Matthews on the outside, very physical corners. You got

910
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs at safety. Like I would play a lot

911
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 3: of man if I was Matt Patrician this game. That's

912
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: what they did last year. They had a lot of

913
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: success and they held Indiana to under seventeen points. On

914
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: the other side, Rich mentioned it, Julian saying torches zone coverage.

915
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Guess who plays the highest rate of zone in college

916
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: football at ninety percent Indiana. So I think Saying has

917
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: a chance here. Last year, Indiana did a good job

918
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: taking away Jeremiah Smith. He had three catches for thirty

919
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: four yards in this game. Didn't matter. You had Egbuca,

920
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: you had Tate, you had the running backs. Same deal.

921
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: This year. You got Ennis, you got Tate, you got

922
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: Claire the tight end. You've got bo Jackson, who's come

923
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: on strong lately. If Indiana just lines up and plays

924
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: their regular zone coverage, I think Julian Sayan has a

925
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: big game, and I think he puts the Heisman in

926
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: his back pocket. And that's kind of the way I

927
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: see this playing out. Obviously, there could be wrinkles along

928
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: the way. Turnovers could be a factory through a pick

929
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: on the first drive last week. But you're giving me

930
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: the shortest number of Ohio State's played since the Texas game,

931
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: and you're giving me a favorable matchup. Indiana plays a

932
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: lot of his own and Julian Sayan's got the highest

933
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: passing grade against zone coverage this year. That to me

934
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 3: feels like the path for the Buckeyes to win and cover.

935
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting to me is that, look, I've

936
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 5: said it where I think Ohio State is overrated just

937
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: in terms of they're talked about in these glowing terms.

938
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: Look at this amazing Russ, look at this Tefen. How

939
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 5: can you score on these guys? And it's like they

940
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: haven't played anybody. They played Texas and that's it. But

941
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 5: I say that to say this, I'm trying to give

942
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: him credit here where you have eight games where Ohio

943
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: State did not allow double digit points, Like, just think

944
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 5: about that. Eight games these teams didn't crack ten points

945
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 5: like that. That's pretty crazy right there. So they are

946
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: beating a lot of bum teams, but they are suffocating

947
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 5: these teams, you know, like they can't even get to ten.

948
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 5: We're not asking for it, get to twenty four and

949
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 5: be in the neighborhood of winning the game, Like we're

950
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: just asking for ten points, and eight teams couldn't do that, right.

951
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 5: Some of those are home games and you still can't

952
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 5: get to ten points against Ohio State's defense. So they've

953
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 5: got a lot of talent. They've got playmakers all over

954
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: the place, and that, to me is where this game

955
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 5: begins for IU.

956
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 4: It's up front. It's the big uglies over here. Rich Hunt.

957
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: We got to talk about the old line because you

958
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: got to be able to run the ball effectively, and

959
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: you've got to be able to protect Fernando Mendoza. Now Mendoza,

960
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 5: he throws it quickly. That's the one thing that's working

961
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: in Indiana's favor, not the only thing, but one thing

962
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: that really works against a good pass rush is get

963
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: rid of the all quickly. The average is two point

964
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: five to five seconds before throwing the football, and that's

965
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: you know, number one in the Big ten in terms

966
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 5: of getting rid of the football quickly.

967
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: They've only given up.

968
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 5: Fifteen sacks this season, so IU has done a very

969
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 5: good job protecting Mendoza. They've been able to run it effectively.

970
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 5: That's the question though, this is Ohio State's defense. Can

971
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 5: you do those things and protect and run the ball?

972
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: Can you get the big uglies moving in the right

973
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 5: direction in this one? Because if that's not happening, nothing

974
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 5: else is for IU in this one.

975
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

976
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 6: Look, I think one of the early predictors of this

977
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 6: game is gonna be if Indiana is getting caught in

978
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 6: third and long situations consistently in the first quarter or

979
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 6: early in the first half, I should say, you know

980
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a long, hard game for the Hoosiers

981
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 6: because I don't think they're comfortable playing football that way.

982
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 6: This isn't a team that plays on their heels and

983
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 6: then hits you with an overhand.

984
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: Right out of nowhere and you're like, whoa, where did

985
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 3: that chunk play come from?

986
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 6: They spend more time in standard downs than any team

987
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 6: in college football. They are that team. They are constantly

988
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 6: keeping the pressure on defenses and the forward momentum going,

989
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 6: and I mean, how do you do it?

990
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: Well?

991
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's much of the same that has

992
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 6: given you a great deal of success throughout this season.

993
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 6: You know, throwing the ball quickly, getting it out of

994
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 6: your quarterback's hands, the RPO game. Look, Ohio State is

995
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 6: they have a successful rating against the inside zone and

996
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 6: you're going to have to try to defeat that by

997
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 6: playing fire with fire a little bit. But but really

998
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 6: what it's going to come down to is if you

999
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 6: can loosen this primarily nickel defense that Patricia likes to

1000
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 6: run as defensive coordinator with Ohio State by keeping some

1001
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 6: of these threatening linebackers or slot defenders away from making

1002
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 6: tackles close to the line of scrimmage by scaring them

1003
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 6: with the RPO action, you know, getting the ball out

1004
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: to a slot receiver, getting the ball into a second

1005
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 6: window with a slant behind the run fake. Those type

1006
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 6: of things have had a great effect on defenses that

1007
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: have gambled against Indiana. And if you have a situation

1008
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 6: where early in the game, Ohio State takes a couple

1009
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 6: of gambles where they commit to the run, they bring

1010
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 6: a slot defender, they try to crash the inside run

1011
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 6: with some quick move from the inside linebackers, and you

1012
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 6: throw the ball over the top and it hurts them

1013
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 6: early for an explosive, even if it's not a touchdown,

1014
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 6: even if it's just you get gashed up the middle

1015
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 6: for fifteen or twenty yards. Defensive coordinators they don't have

1016
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: short memories and games. They remember those things and they

1017
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 6: don't want to lose a game for their head coach,

1018
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: for their team, for their reputation, and so they'll start

1019
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 6: getting a little less aggressive and that can really hurt

1020
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: a defense that well. I mean, they've buy and large

1021
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 6: been able to call whatever they've wanted to all season

1022
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: long with great degrees of success.

1023
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: So I think that's going to be the bell weather

1024
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: in this game.

1025
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 6: If Indiana can handle this defensive line, if Indiana can

1026
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: keep the front six or seven, if they bring an

1027
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 6: extra defender off the slot blocked long enough for the

1028
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 6: run to be effective in standard downs you know, first

1029
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 6: and second down, normal distances, stay out of trouble.

1030
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: If Indiana can stay out of trouble.

1031
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 6: With penalties and they don't harm themselves, I think this

1032
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 6: could be a game where we see Indiana able to

1033
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 6: control the tempo. I could also see this game kind

1034
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 6: of getting out of and for them if they don't,

1035
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 6: If if Fernando Mendoza, if this turns into a pass

1036
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 6: fest for for Mendoza, I don't think that bodes well

1037
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: for Indiana against this Ohio State defense.

1038
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana's got two backs that I think are formidable.

1039
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. We know about Hemby the

1040
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: other one you might not have heard one. Kleyan black

1041
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: red shirt senior transfer from JMU, like one of the

1042
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: guys Signetti brought over. Both of those guys are very capable.

1043
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: This is one of those games that I do think

1044
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: is going to be a tone setter for the playoff

1045
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: because what Brian is saying is correct. Ohio State has

1046
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: played a cupcake schedule. We don't know how good they

1047
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: really are. They might be amazing, and this is the

1048
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 3: night where they can show it if they take Indiana

1049
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: and stuff them into a locker for four quarters. Defensively,

1050
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 3: I think Indiana's defense will hang in this game. They've

1051
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: got some good pass rush off the edge. That zone

1052
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: scheme I think will at least for the most part,

1053
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: prevent the absurd explosives. You know, they did a good

1054
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: job on Jeremi Smith las year. I don't think he's

1055
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: gonna go nuclear in this game. But the defensive side

1056
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 3: of the ball is what I'm fascinated with because if

1057
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: Ohio State's defense again, they have not allowed seventeen points

1058
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: in a game all year, and everyone's pushing back with

1059
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: all they haven't play any one. Okay, that's fair, but

1060
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: tonight they're playing someone. So if they do that to

1061
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: Indiana tonight, I think the tone will be set for

1062
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: the playoff. Whereas last year they didn't get this opportunity.

1063
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: They were watching this game at home, and then all

1064
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden in the Rose Bowl, it was like

1065
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 3: explosion against the Oregon They were like, all right, well,

1066
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: Ohio State's the best team. Clearly we get that game tonight.

1067
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 3: If they do to Indiana what they did to Oregon

1068
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: in the Rose Bowl last year, which is ironically a

1069
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: similar situation, right Dylan Gabriel, upstart quarterback, undefeated Ducks and

1070
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 3: Ohio State stuffed them into a locker, pulled their pant,

1071
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 3: you know, did the swirlly the whole nine yards. If

1072
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 3: they do that to Indiana tonight, Brian, would that change

1073
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: your opinion on Ohio State being legit.

1074
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 5: Well, if they did that to IU, like legitimately just

1075
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 5: completely smacked them, it'd be like, all right, okay, you know,

1076
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: like we know that they're capable of doing that. They

1077
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: just they played Texas in the first game and it

1078
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: was fourteen to seven, you know, like typical first game, weird,

1079
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 5: you know, not prolific at all. But yeah, I mean

1080
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 5: that would be like, wow, Okay, we see what Ohio State.

1081
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: They have the talent to do it, and now they

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00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,680
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Speaker 4: But I still think there if they can be had

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Speaker 4: in the playoff. I really do think that.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how it goes tonight. But yeah, legitimate

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Speaker 5: we welcome in our main man, Seamus McGee, team lead

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Speaker 5: you need. You need a Sterling Virginia win today.

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Speaker 3: But that's just you.

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So the book definitely would be better off with

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Speaker 11: a Duke win today. We do have some Duke liability

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 11: on the Futures book to win the acc but also

1130
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 11: there's some last legs of parlays that we have out

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00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 11: there with Virginia tied to those that would cash that

1132
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 11: are up there, and you know, it's a lot of

1133
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 11: action on UVA sharps and sharps and recreational money. This

1134
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 11: line opened around two and a half and it's gone

1135
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 11: up to four and a half and it's just been

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 11: one way traffic on the Who's.

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Speaker 3: Today, Seamus, I'm on an island with my BYU pick.

1138
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody wants Texas Tech. Everyone thinks Texas

1139
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: Tech is going to win this game and win big.

1140
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: Although I'll be honest, I love bear Bachmeyer. I think

1141
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: the Kalani Sataki narrative. I think they're going to be

1142
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 3: absolutely jazz for this game. Considering if they lose, they

1143
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: are really out. When Texas Tech loses, they are probably

1144
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: still in a little bit of movement towards the Koogs.

1145
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: This morning, I got thirteen earlier in the week. Now

1146
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm seeing twelve and a half some twelves. Is there

1147
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 3: any chance BYU can pull this upset and send shot

1148
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: wades through the CFP?

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01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, Jarre, I I really talked myself into BYU this week,

1150
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 11: myself because for what I am with you on the motivation.

1151
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 11: I think I think that's real. I think, you know,

1152
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 11: if TEXTA loses, they're still in. BYU needs to win

1153
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 11: to get in. And the other thing is too you know,

1154
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 11: my buddy was telling about this this morning. It look

1155
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 11: at who Texas Tech's defense is played at quarterback like

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Speaker 11: all season. It's not a glowing list of like you know,

1157
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 11: huge big name qbs. I think BYU's gonna be able

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01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 11: to score something today. Now, the BYU defense outside of

1159
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 11: Provo isn't particularly great, so we'll see if they can

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01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 11: hang around for the book. Right now, it's a lot

1161
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 11: of money on Texas Tech on the spread. We're gonna

1162
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 11: hope BYU at least keeps this close. But I think

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01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 11: a Texas Tech win and a BYU cover is what

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 11: we're looking to have here. A lot of shot takers

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01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 11: on the BYU money line.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 6: We were just talking about this Big ten championship game

1168
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 6: Indiana Ohio State. I like Indiana on the spread. I

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01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 6: feel like they have what it takes to keep it close,

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Speaker 6: even though Ohio State defends some of what they like

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01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 6: to do well, and frankly, Indiana sits in a defense

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 6: that Julian saying has had some success against this season.

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01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 6: That being said, I like the Hoosiers to keep it close.

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Speaker 6: Talk me off the ledge if you feel a need to.

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01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 11: Well, you know, do with this what you will. Our

1176
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 11: biggest need of the day is going to be the Hoosiers.

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Speaker 11: He took a couple of huge bets on Ohio State

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01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 11: as well as well as heavy public action on Ohio

1179
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 11: State and specifically in minus four agency. Now we're hanging

1180
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Speaker 11: nice four and a half now, money line parlays, you

1181
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 11: name it, it's all on Ohio State. So Indiana outright

1182
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 11: would be great for BETAMGM.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, it looks like I'm on the

1184
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 6: side of the books, right, That's where you want to

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Speaker 6: be rich.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Seamus, you know you're a man of you know,

1187
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 5: high character, integrity and strong opinions. Right, And so I

1188
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Speaker 5: got to ask you about this college football playoff race.

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01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 5: Any strong stances are you fully on Miami totally against

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame or whatever? Is there anything that you're really

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01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 5: strong on that might go against the committee or doesn't

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 5: have anything to do with the committee at all? Do

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 5: you have a strong college football playoff related if I love.

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01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 11: Notre Dame, so much, I'd probably be more animated about it.

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01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: But I have Miami in.

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Speaker 11: The playoffs, like I just do. I've tried my hand

1197
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 11: at some bracketology this year, and every iteration I come

1198
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 11: up with, I have Miami in ten times out of ten.

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Speaker 11: So I think they have a reason to be animated.

1200
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 11: But it just looks like it's just not going to happen.

1201
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 11: There was a window of time for the committee to

1202
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 11: put Miami ahead of Notre Dame, and it was last

1203
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 11: week and they didn't do it because I don't know

1204
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 11: what gymnastics they're going to have to do to say

1205
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 11: that nothing happened between each team. And but this week

1206
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 11: we just feel like Miami's I don't know what they're

1207
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 11: gonna do, And frankly, I don't know why everyone is

1208
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 11: so bad at this ship this year about the playoff.

1209
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 11: It's literally just because of Miami. This is I mean,

1210
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 11: we're going to get five conference champs in and hopefully

1211
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 11: Virginia takes care of business tonight. We just have, you know,

1212
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 11: the regular power for or in. We have our G

1213
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 11: five spot and we're been out of shape because three

1214
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 11: lost Texas isn't going to get in. I think I'll

1215
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 11: live like this is fine. We got you know, Notre

1216
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 11: Dame saying this has to go to sixteen and it'll

1217
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 11: be perfect. It was perfect probably at six and we've

1218
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 11: blown right through that and it's just we're gonna get

1219
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 11: to this is the problem with expanding the platform for

1220
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 11: this is my hot take is that it's just too

1221
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 11: much expansion. This is a different sport than basketball. We

1222
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 11: don't need I don't need twelve. I barely even needed

1223
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 11: four if I'm being perfect like this. So it's just

1224
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 11: going to get out of control as we keep going

1225
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 11: on to the conference who are going to want more

1226
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 11: and more of their teams in.

1227
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out

1228
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: sec it. Actually, as we started this segment, I saw

1229
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of money come in on Bama. I'm

1230
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: seeing this down to one at some shops. Does that

1231
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 3: make sense to you? Where have you seen this number

1232
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: this week? I feel like when these two teams play Seamus,

1233
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: you can pretty much throw out the points spread and

1234
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: the history, like it just seems like it's like a

1235
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: title wave in one direction or the other, and it's

1236
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: like a college basketball game, like the momentum like last

1237
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 3: year was twenty eight to nothing Bama, Georgia took the

1238
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 3: lead and Inbama won. Like I feel like this is

1239
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: going to be one of those classics. What do you

1240
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: make of this SEC title?

1241
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's definitely a game where I'm probably looking at

1242
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 11: the money line more than anything. I like Alabama in

1243
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 11: this game. I think they'll get this done, but it's

1244
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 11: it's a little weird. A lot of the Alabama takers

1245
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 11: have been taking you know, Baba plus two and a half,

1246
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 11: a lot of Baba plus one and a half, but

1247
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 11: a lot of money on Georgia money line. So I

1248
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 11: think we're gonna be rooting for the Tide come kickoff right.

1249
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 6: Now before we get to the Seamus Special, I have

1250
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 6: a selfish question both Jared and I being alumni of

1251
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 6: Penn State, myself a former player the new hire Matt Campbell.

1252
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 6: I bet MGM, you've handicapped countless Iowa State games.

1253
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: Obviously you're familiar with his work. You know what, what's your.

1254
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 6: Reaction to the Penn State higher after the long and

1255
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 6: thorough coaching search.

1256
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 11: I don't think anyone outside of Iowa State fans get

1257
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 11: more crap for defending Matt Campbell than I do from

1258
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 11: some of my friends. I'm a huge Matt Campbell guy.

1259
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 11: I think this is a fantastic higher. I think he's

1260
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 11: going to be really good. So we'll see.

1261
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 5: All right, it's the moment of truth. Rich alluded to

1262
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 5: it the Shamus Special. What do you have for us today, Seamus?

1263
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 11: Let's go to macin Let's go to the MAC Championship

1264
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 11: Game a conference. I think I overrated the beginning of

1265
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 11: the year because you know I I I post these

1266
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 11: markets six plus and ten plus over under teams, and

1267
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 11: uh I had them way higher and unders cashed on

1268
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 11: ten plus win teams and six plus win teams, and

1269
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 11: Miami Ohio was a team I actually underrated. I thought

1270
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 11: they were going to be not that good this year.

1271
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 11: I'm gonna bet them to win the game today. I

1272
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 11: think they're gonna win out right over Western Michigan. So

1273
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 11: Miami Ohio, okay, shot?

1274
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 3: Getting yeah?

1275
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: Are they taking the week off? What's going on?

1276
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: The playoffs are today?

1277
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 11: I know?

1278
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 3: Wild? Yeah? All right?

1279
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: Going on going mainstream on us here, ye crack action.

1280
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 3: You know this is a yes, I know, it's like

1281
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: we're shot. You pick such a mainstream game in the MAC.

1282
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 4: That's right, That's right.

1283
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 5: This is like, uh, you know, Metallica Until It Sleeps

1284
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: or something, you know, or if they released a Christmas album.

1285
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 5: All right, good stuff, Seamus, always good hanging with you man.

1286
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 5: Hope you have a good day. We'll catch you soon.

1287
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 4: Thanks guys enjoying the game, Yeah you too, Love you, Bud.

1288
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 5: There he is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports Trading

1289
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 5: at bet MGM. All right, let's dive headfirst into this.

1290
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: Watch.

1291
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: All right, the last installment of Heisman Watch, if you will.

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Speaker 5: This is uh, we're down on the nitty gritty here,

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 5: and it's all eyes on the Big Ten Championship game.

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 5: It's Fernando Mendoza, the IU quarterback against Ohio States, Julian saying,

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 5: and a lot of people think the winner of this

1297
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 5: game is gonna win the Heisman. There are some people

1298
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 5: that say, if Ohio State wins the game, there's a

1299
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: good chance Diego Pavia could sneak.

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 3: In there and win this thing.

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01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 5: Jeremiah Love, who a lot of people think is the

1302
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 5: best player in college football, he just didn't have the

1303
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 5: you know, the crescendo. You know, he didn't hit the

1304
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 5: high note in the final game of the season because

1305
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 5: he got banged up against Stanford. There was that you know,

1306
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 5: high rushing total prop bet where it was it like

1307
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 5: one thirty three and a half, something crazy like that,

1308
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: And it was tied to the thought that he was

1309
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 5: going to set this single season all time Notre Dame

1310
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 5: rushing record, and he got banged up like a little

1311
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 5: bit of an abdomen issue going on there against Stanford,

1312
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 5: and so he hardly ran the ball at all in

1313
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 5: the second half and was greatly reduced to the bench.

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01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 5: Mostly so, Jeremiah Love's not gonna win this award. It's

1315
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 5: a three horse race. It's Mendoza, it's saying, it's Diego Pavia.

1316
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 5: What do you think of this thing?

1317
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 6: Rich, Here's the way I always look at the Heisman.

1318
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 6: It doesn't go to the best player in the country.

1319
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 6: It goes to the best player playing on the best team.

1320
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 6: And like you said, Brian with the best hype machine

1321
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 6: behind him at the time of the award ceremony, or

1322
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: I should say, at the deliberation of the of the award.

1323
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 6: You know, when you're looking at all the candidates in

1324
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 6: their resume, I mean, you could make the argument that

1325
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 6: there are quarterbacks in the top five, the top handful

1326
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 6: of talented quarterbacks in this country who you would easily

1327
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 6: replace either Mendoza or Julian Saying with and their teams

1328
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 6: would have better success with. I mean, you could argue

1329
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 6: that Pavia would fit better on a IU Hoosier's roster

1330
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 6: than Mendoza. You know, you could make the argument that

1331
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 6: Ty Simpson, if he was wearing buck eye red instead

1332
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 6: of Crimson.

1333
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: Tied red, would be a better Ohio State quarterback. But

1334
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: I digress.

1335
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 6: This doesn't go to the best player or the player

1336
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 6: who you think is the most talented of the bunch.

1337
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 3: It goes to the player with the most hype.

1338
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 6: And so I think the correct crescendo for both of

1339
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 6: these candidates would be the star top of the tree,

1340
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 6: to borrow the metaphor from the holiday season, winning this

1341
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 6: championship game, That'll be the final feather in the cap,

1342
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 6: and I think it'll be the final deliberation point that

1343
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 6: separates either Saying or Mendoza from the other. So I

1344
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 6: don't have a strong feeling on who's gonna walk away

1345
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 6: with this other than saying that I think Ohio Say

1346
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 6: wins this game. So I guess you could say I'm

1347
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 6: leaning more towards Julian saying it wouldn't shock me if

1348
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 6: Indiana won it.

1349
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 3: It would not shock me at all. So it's a

1350
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 3: bit of a toss up.

1351
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 6: But I would say if I'm going to put a

1352
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 6: heavier favorite on one side or the other, I would

1353
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: say it would be saying.

1354
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Brian laid it out pretty well. Jeremiah

1355
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: Love is the best player in college football this year.

1356
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: I believe so. But recency bias as a hell of

1357
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: a drug, and the last thing we saw was, you know,

1358
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 3: kind of a dud, like not necessarily a dud, just

1359
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't that the high note as Brian alluded to,

1360
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: which I thought was properly put. The Diego Pavia argument, like,

1361
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: I think he has the best narrative, but it doesn't

1362
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 3: feel very strong because it just doesn't seem like he's

1363
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: the best player. It just seems like he's a really

1364
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: good player on a team with a really great story

1365
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: that kind of came from out of nowhere, I guess,

1366
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: not out of nowhere, but one ten games and frankly

1367
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 3: deserves to be in the play has a playoff argument,

1368
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: I think, But I don't think the Heisman argument for

1369
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: Pobby is very strong, so that leads us to the

1370
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks that are playing tonight, and all of this

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: makes sense. I've talked to multiple odds makers this week

1372
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: about this, including Shamus. We had a lengthy conversation about

1373
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 3: this for your text message earlier this week. I should

1374
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 3: have asked him about it earlier, but we had a

1375
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: lot of other things to get to. I don't understand

1376
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: the odds. The odds make no sense if what we

1377
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: are hypothesizing is true, which is the winner tonight is

1378
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: gonna win the Heisman, unless it's like a six to

1379
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: three defensive slugfest, which I do not see happening. Why

1380
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 3: are the odds so tight for both players. Ohio State's

1381
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: a minus two hundred favorite in the game, yet Sayings

1382
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: plus one seventy five even with Mendoza. It makes no

1383
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 3: sense none. And you could make the argument that maybe

1384
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: Mendoza has some exposure, right the books have taken significant

1385
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: Mendoza money and that's why the odds are a little

1386
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: bit tighter. That's not the case either. I just think

1387
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: this is one of those scenarios where the perception doesn't

1388
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: match the reality in the odds market. If you like

1389
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: Ohio State tonight, which I do. I wouldn't bet Ohio State.

1390
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: I would just bet Julian Saying to win the Heisman.

1391
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 3: I feel like it is a very parallel bet, very

1392
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 3: correlated or yes, there is a outlier scenario where Ohio

1393
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 3: State's defense is dominant, they win the game, like seventeen

1394
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 3: to three, and Julian Sayan doesn't do anything and it's

1395
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: all running game, defensive score, something like that. There is

1396
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: that outlier scenario where that could take plays, but that

1397
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: is an unlikely scenario. The more likely scenario is Ohio

1398
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: State plays a good football game, Julian Sayan has a

1399
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: good game against a good Indiana's own defense, and that's

1400
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: the last thing the committee sees before they vote. The

1401
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: voting opens tonight. They haven't even started voting for the

1402
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 3: Heisman yet. It opens today and it closes Monday. And

1403
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 3: I think that window is a big advantage for the

1404
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 3: last game on the board, which is Indiana and Ohio State.

1405
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 3: So it makes sense to me, if you like Ohio

1406
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: State tonight, you bet Saying to win the Heisman. If

1407
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: you like Indiana tonight, well then you can pick your poison, right.

1408
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 5: It's that's interesting with the window because as great of

1409
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 5: a season as Diego Pavia has had.

1410
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 4: He's been tremendous.

1411
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 5: It just feels like, well, he's watching on his cow

1412
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 5: cheating cheetos, you know, and it's there for the taking

1413
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 5: for Mendoza. It's there for the taking for Julian Sayan,

1414
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 5: and the only way he can win this is by

1415
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 5: back dooring his way into the Heisman trophy. I mean,

1416
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 5: it's how it feels like there's an element of that

1417
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 5: going on here. And it really speaks to just utter

1418
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 5: reluctance to say, Julian Saying should be the Heisman winner,

1419
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 5: right like you detailed the odds, Jared, and that's what

1420
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: it screams to me for Fernando Mendoza, who's had a

1421
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 5: strong season. Obviously, they're four and a half point dogs,

1422
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, like money line, they're there's significant underdogs right there,

1423
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 5: and he's got the same Heisman odds as Julian Sane.

1424
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 4: It just speaks to Julian say in reluctance to me, yeah,

1425
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 4: and we'll see.

1426
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 5: That's the thing is if Ohio State wins and whatever,

1427
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 5: like bo Jackson has a really good game, the defense

1428
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 5: is just standing on its head.

1429
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,959
Speaker 4: Hockey style, you know, right like, you're gonna.

1430
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 5: Look and be like, oh, Jillian's saying he completed a

1431
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 5: bunch of passes, but they were high percentage passes and

1432
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 5: nothing really wowed us.

1433
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 4: And then what then it's down to saying in Pavia

1434
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 4: in that situation.

1435
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,919
Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting, man, We'll see how it unfolds,

1436
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: curious how it does go down exactly. And I mean

1437
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 5: that's the thing, man, that's what's so hard for Diego Pavia.

1438
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: A lot of people go by what they just saw last. Yes,

1439
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 5: you know, and you're gonna see Mendoza and saying on

1440
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 5: the same football field duking it out for the big ten.

1441
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 4: Crown, that is the last thing you see.

1442
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 5: You might not even remember Diego Pavia against Tennessee, right

1443
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 5: like it might be a distant memory when you're casting

1444
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 5: your ballot.

1445
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: So that timing does matter. There's no doubt.

1446
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 5: We've got rich On Berger, Penn State All American, Jared

1447
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,640
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Speaker 5: the prop betting market. Do I dare take a college

1456
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 5: quarterback's rushing total.

1457
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: Under? Maybe under you?

1458
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 5: We'll see I'm thinking of an under and this makes

1459
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,920
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Speaker 5: the day.

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: Mess to maker looking looking up the middle now checks down,

1466
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: It's off the fingertips and takes off Chris Rogers down.

1467
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 10: It looks funny to the fifteen in the head down

1468
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 10: touchdown too.

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 5: Lo there it is Corey Glore from lear Field as

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 5: two Lane won the American Conference Championship game. I do

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 5: miss the act the American Athletic Conference AAC. I loved

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 5: calling it DAC. They shortened it to the American can't

1473
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 5: even call that anymore. By the way, if I could

1474
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 5: derail the show just for a second. Let me get

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,680
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Speaker 4: The way tire buying should be. That play was total bs.

1481
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 4: That was a fumble through the end zone. It should

1482
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 4: have been a touchback.

1483
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: They reviewed it.

1484
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 4: What are they doing like this? I hate?

1485
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 3: I hate.

1486
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 4: I can't tell you guys how much I hate this.

1487
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 5: I hate the standard of It's got to be indisputable,

1488
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 5: one beyond a shadow of a doubt for us to

1489
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 5: overturn a call. Why does it need to be that?

1490
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 5: Why you saw a mess to maker make the hit.

1491
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 5: He wasn't in the end zone. The guy was fumbling

1492
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 5: it before he crossed the goal line. That's a fumble

1493
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 5: through the end zone all day, and yet you had

1494
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 5: the official in the booth like, well, I think that's

1495
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 5: the case, but I can't tell you with one hundred

1496
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 5: percent certainty. So we're going by the call on the

1497
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 5: field in live time, and we're beholden to that unless

1498
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 5: the replay shows one hundred percent.

1499
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 4: Why shouldn't it just be better than the fifty percent?

1500
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 3: Why?

1501
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 4: I don't understand it at all.

1502
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 5: I don't get it. It shouldn't be one hundred percent.

1503
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 5: That is in irrational benchmark to hit standard to hit.

1504
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 5: I don't like that whatsoever. But we get to the picks.

1505
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 3: Let's do this.

1506
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 2: Prop it up player play.

1507
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 5: All right, my guys were just itching. They're like, all right,

1508
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 5: shut up, now, let's get to the pics. That's a

1509
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 5: bit picking, all right, what do you have, rich, what

1510
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 5: do you have for us?

1511
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 6: Okay, right off the top, I'm gonna give you Trell Harris,

1512
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 6: Virginia's top offensive weapon.

1513
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: You saw me take the team total for Virginia against Duke.

1514
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 6: He's leading the team with fifty six catches eight hundred

1515
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 6: and nine yards this season, five tuddies. He torched Duke

1516
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 6: last time they faced, and that was two games ago,

1517
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 6: eight grabs, one hundred and sixty one yards and a touchdown.

1518
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 6: He's got big playability, he's got a history against the

1519
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 6: Blue Deevils. He's poised for another strong performance. So give

1520
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 6: me Trell Harris over seventy nine and a half yards

1521
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 6: for the for the Cavaliers go.

1522
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 3: Who's I love it? I bet him to score a

1523
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 3: touchdown to to night. I think he has a big game,

1524
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 3: all right, So we're gonna kind of play off of

1525
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: the BYU pick here. I think BYU keeps things close,

1526
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: but I think the Texas deck defense has its say.

1527
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: So we're gonna go bear Bachmeyer under thirty one and

1528
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 3: a half rushing yards. Right, sacks count as negatives he

1529
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 3: and he's not a gifted runner. That's not what his

1530
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 3: goal is. It's not his number one focus. So I'm

1531
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: gonna hope that they're gonna focus on the passing game

1532
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 3: today and we get a couple of sacks and Bachmeyer

1533
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 3: BYU covers, but buyer bachmert days under his rushing yards PROPM.

1534
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I had. You know, now there was

1535
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 4: there was only one sack in the first game. They

1536
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: had eleven.

1537
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: Harris too, how about that.

1538
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 5: We're all kind of tradet each other's paper.

1539
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 4: I'll go with the same game.

1540
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: Give me Cameron Dickie over eighty six and a half

1541
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 5: rushing yards. They're gonna run it down BYU's throat. So

1542
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 5: I have no problem with that, all right, coming.

1543
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 4: Up neck verbal fisticuffs.

1544
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: Oh what is going on?

1545
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 5: Happy Saturday to you. Hope your day is off to

1546
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 5: a fantastic start. All right, we're gonna get to number

1547
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 5: three Georgia against number three nine fools gold Alabama. I

1548
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 5: like to say before we get into the Crimson Tide,

1549
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 5: because it's always it's always thin ice around here when

1550
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 5: it comes to the Crimson Tide, differing views. It's been

1551
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 5: a good show so far, you know, and if, man,

1552
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 5: if the Crimson Tide bring us to our knees yet again,

1553
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 5: I would just like to say the first two hours

1554
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 5: were fantastic. Let's not lose sight of that had a

1555
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 5: lot of fun. But hopefully we can state differing views

1556
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 5: and it's still peaceful.

1557
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what.

1558
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 5: What's tied to the SEC Title game is who gets

1559
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 5: into the college football playoff. So let's have that conversation

1560
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 5: first and then we'll dive into the nitty gritty of

1561
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 5: the SEC Title game.

1562
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 4: Because this is the scenario.

1563
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 5: If Bama wins, they're obviously in Bama would have to

1564
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 5: get crushed to not be a playoff team.

1565
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 4: I really think that's where we're at.

1566
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 5: Like maybe there's a world where let's say Alabama loses

1567
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 5: thirty five to ten. I don't see that happening. I

1568
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 5: know you guys don't see that happening. But Georgia smack

1569
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 5: Texas thirty five to ten. So let's just say they

1570
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 5: get up on BAMA and somehow things just don't go

1571
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 5: back AMA's way at all. I think that's the only

1572
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 5: thing that would keep them out of the playoff. If

1573
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 5: this is a respectable loss, they're a playoff team. They

1574
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 5: might not even move down at all. If it's a

1575
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 5: respectable loss, they'd have to move down two pegs most likely.

1576
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 5: If BYU loses Alabama they win, they're in and as

1577
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 5: long as they don't get blown out, they'd have to

1578
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 5: get blown out and get leapfrogged by Notre Dame and Miami.

1579
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 4: Right, I don't see that happening, So it looks like

1580
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 4: Alabama's going to be in there.

1581
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 5: The question I have before we get to the SEC

1582
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 5: title game is if it comes down to Notre Dame

1583
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 5: in Miami. Okay, let's say BYU loses and BAMA either

1584
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 5: wins or doesn't get blown out, then it's Notre Dame

1585
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 5: Miami not who you think should be in Who do

1586
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 5: you think the committee will choose if it's Notre Dame Miami.

1587
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 5: What do you think they do do they finally switch

1588
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 5: their tune in at the last minute, say, you know what,

1589
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,799
Speaker 5: we gotta consider head to head now. We couldn't consider

1590
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 5: it so before with teams in between these. It makes

1591
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 5: no sense to me.

1592
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 4: I think that's what they would do. I think they

1593
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 4: would put Miami in there.

1594
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 5: Rich, What do you think the committee would do if

1595
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 5: it's down to those two teams for the final spot?

1596
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 6: I really honestly believe that if we get to that point.

1597
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 6: Much to what I've been saying the whole show, and

1598
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 6: Seamus pointed out during our time talking to him, is

1599
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 6: I just don't think that the committee has any problem

1600
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 6: putting who they project as the best team into.

1601
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 3: The playoff bracket. And they did that. They proved it

1602
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: two years ago with Florida State.

1603
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 6: In a much more egregious in my opinion, I would

1604
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 6: say subtraction of evidence that a team has the best resume,

1605
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 6: whereas maybe they don't fit the eyeball test because they

1606
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 6: lost their starting quarterback. You know, you say, well, are

1607
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 6: we looking for the team that's most deserving or are

1608
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 6: we looking for the best television product, and the committee

1609
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 6: put their heads together and said, no, we're looking for the.

1610
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 3: Best television product. That's what they told us. That's what

1611
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 3: they told me.

1612
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 6: And so with much lower stakes, you're telling me that

1613
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 6: they're going to change their tune for Miami or Notre Dame,

1614
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 6: who are hanging on to the bottom rung of a

1615
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 6: twelve team bracket. Absolutely not. This is a much easier decision.

1616
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 6: Notre Dame has much more broad appeal. In my opinion,

1617
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 6: they're the better team right now, and so both from

1618
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 6: a TV market or rating standpoint in terms of broadcasts,

1619
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 6: and then also just in terms of who's the team

1620
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 6: in the power rankings, who's playing better football right now,

1621
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 6: both of those nods go to Notre Dame.

1622
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: I continue to stand firm on this. The Golden Dumbers

1623
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 3: they're going to be in.

1624
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 6: The Hurricanes are going to be out, and I would

1625
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 6: be shocked if they the committee changes has a change

1626
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 6: of heart over teams that are placing outside the top ten.

1627
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 6: When they made this same decision and put a Seminoles

1628
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 6: team who deserved to be in the bracket, when it

1629
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 6: was when we were talking about a potential three or four.

1630
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 3: Spot two years ago, Yeah, this is a tough one

1631
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: for the original original point on the SEC they should

1632
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 3: not penalize Bama for playing in this game, just like

1633
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 3: they didn't penalize SMU last year for losing in the

1634
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: ACC Championship, albeit a close game to Clemson, they still

1635
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 3: put SMU in. They did drop two spots though, you know,

1636
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: like they did so, and that's why I think they

1637
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: bumped BAM up a spot here, right, Because let's be honest,

1638
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 3: last year's Clemson team compared to this year's Georgia team,

1639
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: there's no comparison. George's light years ahead. So a loss

1640
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 3: to Georgia is not as bad as a loss to

1641
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: last year's Clemson team, who was kind of hanging on

1642
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: the edge. It would be a very respectable loss unless

1643
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 3: the game is very one sided, which is possible, but

1644
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't expect it to be. I think Bama should

1645
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: be in period. End of story. The Notre Dame Miami discussion.

1646
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, guys, I think there's two ways to

1647
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 3: look at this, and I'm glad that Brian kind of

1648
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: put it out there early. Do we think personally, how

1649
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: would we decide or what we think the committee will decide?

1650
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: Those are two very different arguments because I go through

1651
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: this stuff with the draft all the time. In the

1652
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: NFL draft, it's not about who you would take, it's

1653
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: about who the team will take. So I hear it's

1654
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 3: all the time, well, I'm gonna bet on this team

1655
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 3: to draft this person because this is who I would take.

1656
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: But that's irrelevant. It's about who the team is looking at.

1657
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: So you have to look at it through the eyes

1658
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 3: of the committee. And that is why I think the

1659
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: move last week was very or this week was very

1660
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: InTru There was no reason to upgrade Miami the way

1661
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 3: that they did, no reason, but they did. And there

1662
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 3: was no reason to flip Bam and Notre Dame the

1663
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 3: way that they did, but they did. And so I

1664
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 3: think that's where you have to look at what the

1665
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 3: Committee's kind of nudging you towards here as this outcome.

1666
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: So I I personally would put Miami in over Notre Dame.

1667
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 3: I think the head to head matters. I also think

1668
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 3: that's what the committee is nudging us towards based off

1669
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 3: of their move this week. Yeah.

1670
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 5: Man, last thing I'll say and we'll get to the

1671
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 5: SEC title game, is the betting odds favorite what you're saying, rich,

1672
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 5: You know where Miami at BETMGM is plus three point

1673
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 5: fifty to still make the college football playoff. Now that's

1674
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 5: not just if it's down to Miami Notre Dame, because

1675
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 5: there are some moving parts around that it might not

1676
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 5: even get there. BYU wins is not even gonna get there, right,

1677
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 5: I think BYU is gonna lose. So I'm surprised that, Man,

1678
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 5: Miami is still a long shot and Notre Dame at

1679
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 5: some shops minus four hundred to make the playoff.

1680
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: Like I bet said I would too. You've got two outs.

1681
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 3: You've got BYU winning, and you've got the Miami scenario.

1682
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 3: You've got two outs if you bet the null on

1683
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Notre Dame.

1684
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1685
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 5: And that's the thing, man, with the committee, you can

1686
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 5: tell they're getting cold feet. They're getting cold Notre Dame

1687
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 5: feet because they know they have to answer to the nation,

1688
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 5: you know, like the Pine, the Paul Fine bombs, that

1689
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 5: all these talking heads like this is a travesty that

1690
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 5: what are they thinking.

1691
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: It's you know, you're not considering head to head.

1692
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: What are we doing here?

1693
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 6: I think you're reading way too deeply in. They don't care,

1694
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 6: They don't get they've dealt with it before.

1695
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 3: They care.

1696
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 5: Dude. They absolutely there's no reason why they would flip

1697
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 5: Notre Dame and Bama like they're feeling the pressure. Man,

1698
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 5: It's one thing to do it when it's not down

1699
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 5: to the final spot. It's this is something else that

1700
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 5: Hunter you Achek said, the committee chair.

1701
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 3: Check this out.

1702
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 10: The IDOL teams can move following the results the championship

1703
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 10: games and how they impact the teams that are around

1704
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 10: those that play in the championship game and data such

1705
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 10: just strength the scheduled teams that may be idle. So yes,

1706
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 10: teams that are idle can move up or down.

1707
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 5: Right, is maybe the answer to the test right there,

1708
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 5: that's right there, Like, Okay, Notre Dame in Miami are

1709
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 5: not playing this week, they are idle, but they could

1710
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 5: switch spots.

1711
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 4: In the rankings just just if they're you know, well,

1712
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,440
Speaker 4: you got to leave that door open. It is so ridiculous.

1713
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 3: That was the most impactful thing he said with this

1714
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 3: entire process, right that line right there really stuck with

1715
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 3: me this week. It really did.

1716
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not saying that you guys are wrong and

1717
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 6: I'm right because I think that it's it's a possibility.

1718
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that these people who vote on these

1719
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 6: games are not afraid, are not afraid.

1720
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 3: To piss people off.

1721
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 6: And by the way, they love what's happening on this show,

1722
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 6: and that's the reason why they put little breadcrumbs in

1723
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 6: the forest to bring you to the witch's house before

1724
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 6: she devours you.

1725
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 5: Well, hey, man, I hope you are right. I really do,

1726
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 5: but I have significant doubts.

1727
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 3: I do too, because Notre Dame's the better team. Yeah,

1728
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 3: I really think Notre Dame's the better team. Oh but

1729
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 3: it just so happens that they lost back in week two.

1730
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 6: You know, I'll give you the answer to the test.

1731
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 6: That happened nine years ago? Is it nine years ago?

1732
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 6: I think it was twenty sixteen, So yeah, nine years ago,

1733
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 6: Penn State eleven and two record, conference champions left out

1734
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 6: in the cold. Ohio State wins head to head. They're

1735
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 6: in Penn States out. It was a fourteen bracket then, Yeah,

1736
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 6: and much much to your point, the conference championship game

1737
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 6: didn't really matter as much as the head to head

1738
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,799
Speaker 6: and so even though with an eleven and two record,

1739
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 6: arguably the better team at the time, Ohio State still

1740
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 6: got in and It just comes down to what the

1741
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 6: committee wants or feels is the better product is what

1742
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 6: they're going to supply the nation with. So again, if

1743
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 6: you're asking me flat out, do I think it's a

1744
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 6: better product to have Miami in the playoff right now

1745
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 6: or Notre Dame, I say Notre Dame now. Again, this

1746
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 6: may be a choice that's made for them based on

1747
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 6: conference championship results, but they have factored out conference championships

1748
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 6: results in the.

1749
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 3: Past to make the shoe fit.

1750
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 6: And so I'm not saying you're wrong, and I'm not

1751
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 6: saying I'm right, And I will absolutely come back on

1752
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 6: this show in a week's time and say, yeah, you

1753
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 6: guys had it. And I was maybe reading the wrong.

1754
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 12: Tea leaves, but I think this committee is completely, unabashedly

1755
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 12: unafraid to piss people off if it means making college

1756
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 12: football more money.

1757
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I don't care.

1758
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 4: I've never wanted to be wrong more in.

1759
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: My lead too, I think Notre Dame would make for

1760
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 3: a much better playoff.

1761
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I definitely.

1762
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 5: Would to Like if I it's not gonna be one

1763
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 5: of these I had it, I had it. It's not

1764
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 5: gonna be that Miami's in there. Rich I'm gonna be like,

1765
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I was right.

1766
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 3: This sucks, you know.

1767
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

1768
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 5: We'll each have one comment on the SEC title game

1769
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 5: and we'll pick it back up. Okay, So the first

1770
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 5: part for me is this thing with Kirby Smart. So

1771
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:18,520
Speaker 5: since twenty seventeen, Kirby is one and seven against Alabama.

1772
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 5: He is one oh seven and eight against everyone else.

1773
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 5: For whatever reason, Bama has just had Georgia's number. Kirby

1774
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 5: Smart won his national championship against Alabama.

1775
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 4: I was there in Indianapolis.

1776
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 5: I was there among Georgia fans, and it is an

1777
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 5: amazing accomplishment.

1778
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 3: But that's all.

1779
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 4: He's beaten Bama.

1780
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 5: That's one great time to beat him, right, But he's

1781
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 5: oh and three in SEC title games against Alabama. So

1782
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 5: that's the backdrop to me, Georgia, you gotta get off

1783
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 5: to a good start. So many times this season they've

1784
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 5: fallen behind early. They've had to scratch and claw their

1785
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 5: way back, which they're really good at doing. But Alabama's

1786
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 5: really good at starting fast. They're eighth nationally in points

1787
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 5: per drive in the first half. They're not as good

1788
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 5: in the second.

1789
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 3: Half.

1790
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 5: They're thirty third in points per drive in the second half.

1791
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 5: So if Georgia can just start off better then it

1792
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 5: typically has and not have to play from behind and

1793
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 5: come all the way back.

1794
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 4: I think that's a big big deal for Georgia today.

1795
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 5: Can you get off to a better start instead of

1796
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, these lackluster starts. They've said it and

1797
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 5: week we got to start better and they don't. We

1798
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 5: gotta start better and they don't. Can they start better

1799
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 5: in this game? Because you don't want to fall behind

1800
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 5: in Alabama team when your record is one in seven

1801
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 5: led by Kirby Smart.

1802
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 4: So that's my first thing in this game.

1803
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 3: You are who you are. You are who you are.

1804
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 6: And Georgia is a slow starting team this season, and

1805
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 6: they've been slow starters against Alabama historically. Kirby Smart's record

1806
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 6: against Alabama proves it. Like you said, he struggled against

1807
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 6: his team, posting a one and ten record in their

1808
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 6: past eleven meetings. That's dating back to two thousand and eight.

1809
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 6: He's beaten he or excuse me, he's never beaten to

1810
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,759
Speaker 6: Bor as a head coach. And this is their third

1811
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 6: SEC Championship game clash since twenty one and both of

1812
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 6: those previous games have gone toward to Alabama. Look, the

1813
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 6: head to head between these two coaches is not great

1814
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 6: in terms of what you just talked about, especially in

1815
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 6: the first quarter where if you look at how Alabama

1816
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 6: scored versus Kirby Smarts led Bulldogs twenty eight to zero

1817
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 6: in the first quarter over two games in the SEC Championship,

1818
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 6: it's not good. Kirby Smart still hasn't figured it out,

1819
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 6: and I don't know what it is. It could be

1820
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 6: a one of those, you know, self fulfilling prophecies where

1821
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 6: you know, because it's Bama, all of a sudden, things

1822
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 6: just feel different, are different for Kirby Smart.

1823
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: But you're one hundred percent right. We're looking at this

1824
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 3: game the same way. Now.

1825
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 6: If if Georgia doesn't come out to a fast start,

1826
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 6: a strong start, or at very least limits the damage

1827
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 6: of the Crimson Tide in the opening salvo of this game,

1828
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 6: I think this could be another SEC Championship game loss

1829
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 6: to Kalin debor for Kirby Smart.

1830
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a ghost haunted element here with the Georgia

1831
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: Bama rivalry over the last few years. Like Georgia threw

1832
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: the kitchen sink at Baman the first game and Ty Simpson,

1833
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 3: this was kind of peak ty Simpson. This is right

1834
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 3: when they started that run of four straight wins against

1835
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:48,879
Speaker 3: ranked opponents, and he was fantastic. The offensive line was fantastic.

1836
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 3: So Georgia blitzed the heck out of ty Simpson in

1837
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 3: that game, but they only pressured him a nine out

1838
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 3: of forty one dropbock. The on line did a tremendous

1839
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 3: job picking up the blitz. Now. But I've noticed recently

1840
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 3: from Bama, because I know we've had our differences about

1841
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 3: this team, but I am not pigheaded stubborn about what

1842
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 3: Bama is right now. They are not what they were

1843
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 3: earlier in the year when I was believing they were

1844
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 3: a national championship team. They are not that team right now.

1845
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 3: They're injured, they're banged up. Ty Simpson has been a

1846
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 3: little bit off his game recently. The thing I noticed

1847
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 3: last week against Auburn, who has a fantastic pass rush,

1848
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: they were moving the spot, they were manipulating the launch point.

1849
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: You were seeing a lot of play action rollouts where

1850
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 3: ty Simpson was moving out of the pocket. And I

1851
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 3: think the reason for that is because they don't trust

1852
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 3: their offensive line to protect him right now, and so

1853
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 3: they're trying to change the angle that the defense comes

1854
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 3: at him with, and it was relatively effective. The run

1855
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: game actually in the first half with Jan Miller was

1856
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: really good and then they got banged up and the

1857
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 3: run game went away. So I don't know what they're

1858
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 3: gonna get from the running game here. Probably not much

1859
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: because I don't fully trust Daniel Hill. I don't know

1860
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: if Bama fully trusts him in especially in pass protection.

1861
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 3: But the one thing that Bama has to do is

1862
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 3: figure out a way to keep Tye since it up right,

1863
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 3: whether that means they roll him out, get him out

1864
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 3: of the pocket, make Georgia chase him, or just quick

1865
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 3: release quick hitters, because there needs to be a little

1866
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 3: more tempo and rhythm from Alabama's offense. Now. On the

1867
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 3: other side, I actually really like Alabama's defense. I went

1868
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: into depth on that tape last week against Auburn, and

1869
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: they played a really good football game. They really did.

1870
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 3: I think their three to three five is a really

1871
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 3: tough thing to throw on. The one thing I want

1872
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 3: to see more of is them getting pressure. Quay Russo

1873
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 3: came back last week defensive end edge rusher he looked

1874
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: really good. I'd like to see him get a little

1875
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 3: bit more pressure off the edge. The issue though, noelt Overton,

1876
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 3: who's probably their best overall defensive player. He will not

1877
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 3: play this week, so both teams are banged up. It's

1878
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 3: the end of an SEC year. I think Bama's defense

1879
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: has a chance to win him this game, though, I

1880
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 3: honestly do, especially if Quay Russo fills in that lt

1881
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 3: Overton roll and get some pressure off the edge. So

1882
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm a little more bullish on the Bama defense in

1883
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 3: this matchup than I am their offense. But these games

1884
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 3: have a way of being a classic, and I expect

1885
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 3: it to be very much back and forth. Man.

1886
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 5: You think about the first meeting, Georgia had great success

1887
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 5: running the ball. Two hundred and twenty seven yards rushing

1888
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 5: against Bama.

1889
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 4: That's a ton.

1890
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 5: So that's one of the things. Can Bama do a

1891
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 5: much better job against the rush today? I think it's

1892
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 5: a big deal for them.

1893
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, man.

1894
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 5: Like Again, the thing with Bama is, I mean, go

1895
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 5: back to the game against Auburn. It's a five and

1896
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 5: seven team. Auburn's offense sucks, Like I'm just not giving

1897
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 5: them roses for doing well against Auburn and they got

1898
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 5: out gained by one hundred and thirty one yards against Auburn.

1899
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 4: That's crazy to me.

1900
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 5: So I don't know, and the committee is like, wow,

1901
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 5: what a great start though they're seventeen to nothing.

1902
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are we watching here? But whatever.

1903
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 5: Some people I have their fascination with Bama and the

1904
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 5: Committee is one of those entities. If you will, all right,

1905
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,240
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1914
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,439
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1915
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1930
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 4: I just started thinking about this. They're not gonna say it,

1931
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 4: but as the.

1932
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 5: Committee just quietly pulling for BYU because think about it.

1933
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 5: If BYU wins, they are off the hook, okay, like

1934
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 5: Miami and Notre Dame gonna get squeezed out. Like the

1935
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 5: only way it would come down to Notre Dame in

1936
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 5: Miami is if Alabama loses in like historic fashion, which

1937
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 5: is not going to happen, right. If Alabama plays a

1938
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 5: close game, respectable game, doesn't get blown out, Alabama is

1939
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 5: in and BYU would also be in. So there's no

1940
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 5: Notre Dame, there's no Miami. There's no debate. How crazy

1941
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 5: would it be if both of those teams, Notre dame

1942
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 5: in Miami, don't get in and the committee flip flops them, right,

1943
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 5: would that be the weeniest move of all time? Like, well,

1944
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 5: you know, we did consider head to head when they

1945
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 5: were next door to each other, and it would have

1946
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 5: been Miami.

1947
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 3: But you know, BYU won.

1948
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 4: So neither of them get in. I wouldn't put it

1949
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 4: past them to do that.

1950
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 5: But I think the committee, you know, maybe a couple

1951
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 5: of tiger woods fist bumps, if you know what, bear

1952
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 5: Bachbeyer throws a touchdown pass, They're like, all right, let's

1953
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 5: go Koog's here, right, that would get them off the hook.

1954
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 4: There's no doubt I think they would be pretty receptive

1955
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 4: to that happening.

1956
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, So quietly rooting for BYU, I could

1957
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 6: see that. I absolutely could, because it would make some

1958
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 6: of the nipping and tucking a little bit easier, and

1959
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 6: you would have an easier route to explain things, and

1960
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 6: some of the determination obviously would be done for you

1961
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 6: if that were the case. Now you look at the

1962
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 6: actual game and you say, does BYU after losing? I

1963
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 6: believe the score was twenty nine to seven. I don't

1964
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 6: have it in front of me, right, Okay, twenty nine

1965
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 6: to seven last time they faced Texas Tech. And also

1966
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 6: just the way the game went. There's zone read concepts

1967
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 6: with Bachmeier and they're running back. They've looked good against

1968
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 6: virtually everyone, but against Texas Tech they looked abysmal. I mean,

1969
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 6: they were averaging under three yards per play when they

1970
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 6: were running that concept against the Red Raiders, and that

1971
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 6: defense is, in my opinion, the best in the country.

1972
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 6: I don't really see a route for BYU to win

1973
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 6: this game. Could I see it possibility for them to

1974
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 6: keep it close. Yeah, it's hard to beat the same

1975
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 6: team twice, and so you figure two things that bode

1976
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 6: a little bit better for BYU than maybe the scoreboard

1977
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 6: said at the end of the game. Texas Tech was

1978
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 6: in their kitchen all game long. In that battle, I

1979
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 6: think they made it to the red zone seven times.

1980
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 6: They only scored two touchdowns in drives that led them

1981
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 6: within the twenty yard line.

1982
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: That bodes well for the Kougs.

1983
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 6: You know, they were able to limit some of the

1984
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 6: damage in terms of scoring, you know, three points instead

1985
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 6: of seven in some of those cases are none. But

1986
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 6: but yeah, this this does feel like a little bit

1987
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 6: of an inevitability for Texas Tech. To take home the

1988
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 6: Big Twelve Championship game.

1989
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: Three turnovers in the last game, muffed punt really flip things.

1990
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 3: I really do think if BYU cleans those things up,

1991
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 3: I think this game's close. I'm not saying Bhyu wins.

1992
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 3: I just think it's closer. I think the one thing

1993
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 3: BYU does really well is they have an ability to

1994
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 3: stretch the field. When I look at Bachmeyer, I think

1995
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 3: he has a big, talented arm and I think he

1996
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,480
Speaker 3: has the You have to have a level of fearlessness

1997
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 3: when you're staring down the barrel of a gun against

1998
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 3: this Texas Tech defensive line. And make no mistake, this

1999
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 3: Texas Tech defensive line. It might be historically good. We

2000
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 3: haven't really given them the flowers they deserve because it's

2001
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and they haven't really done on the national

2002
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 3: stage just yet. They had a lot of attention coming

2003
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 3: into the year, but when you play in the Big Twelve,

2004
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 3: you just don't get that kind of attention on a

2005
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 3: week two week basis. Now they're gonna get it, and

2006
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 3: not only they're gonna get it this week, but they'll

2007
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 3: get it in the playoff as well. David Bailey leads

2008
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: the nation in pressures. Their other ed Russia. Romelo Height

2009
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 3: is a top ten Pro Football Focus great guy. They're

2010
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 3: two defensive tackles, Homes and Hunter, top ten Pro Football

2011
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 3: Focus great like. This is a Sunday defensive line, and

2012
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 3: that is I think the problem for BYU in this game.

2013
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 3: The solution is Chase Roberts. They're getting back. They're six

2014
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 3: foot four stud X Alpha receiver. He was hurt last week,

2015
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 3: didn't play. I think the path for BYU, something they

2016
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: didn't do in the last game, is to not run

2017
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 3: it into a brick wall. BYU wants to run it.

2018
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 3: They've got a good offensive line, good back LJ. Martin.

2019
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 3: They want to run the ball. Don't do it. You're

2020
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 3: not gonna win in that regard. The way you win

2021
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 3: this game is you loosen this defense up. You take

2022
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 3: some shots down the field early in the game, and

2023
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 3: you hope that your defense, which has been pretty good

2024
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 3: off the edge this year, can get some pressure on

2025
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 3: Baron Morton, because when Morton gets pressure in his face,

2026
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 3: he isn't as unflappable as I think Bear Bachmeyer is,

2027
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,560
Speaker 3: which sounds crazy because Bachmeyer is a freshman, but he

2028
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 3: is not an ordinary freshman. He wears a weird number,

2029
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 3: which might actually push you away from him. But I

2030
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 3: promise you do not let the visual bias of the

2031
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 3: number he wears to deter you from the talent of

2032
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 3: his arm and his and his mind. So I do

2033
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 3: see a path for BYU in this game. Now. It

2034
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be easy, because, like I said, that Texas

2035
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Tech d line is nasty. But if you can loosen

2036
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 3: them up a little bit early and maybe get the

2037
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 3: pass game going to set up the run. The last

2038
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 3: time they played, they tried to run it first, set

2039
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 3: up the pass. That's no, no, no, no, no, let's

2040
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 3: pass first, set up the run. Maybe you can keep

2041
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 3: this game close and hang it within the number.

2042
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 4: That's a tough thing. I hear what you're saying.

2043
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 5: I get it, But it boils down to this what

2044
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 5: BYU wants to do, which is run the ball. They're

2045
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 5: not gonna do very effectively. Texas Tech is just that

2046
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 5: good upfront. So you're asking a BYU team to do

2047
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:22,200
Speaker 5: something it's unaccustomed to doing, you know what I mean, Like,

2048
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 5: you're asking them to throw it first and then we'll

2049
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 5: try to run it when they really want to run

2050
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 5: it first, second, and third and then throw it a

2051
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 5: little bit here and there.

2052
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 4: That's what they really want to do.

2053
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying they can't do it, but again,

2054
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 5: you're asking a team. Let's say it's a boxer and

2055
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 5: your best punch, your very best punch.

2056
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 4: It's your money maker, right, it's your bread and butter.

2057
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 5: Not gonna work like your job is totally ineffective against

2058
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 5: this particular opponent. Don't even think about using the jab.

2059
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 5: You're wasting your time. And it's like, but I use

2060
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 5: my jab to set up all my other punches. I

2061
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 5: can't really It's like, yeah, okay, I guess I'm gonna

2062
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 5: be right cross in this particular fight, and that's not

2063
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 5: my strength at all.

2064
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 4: That's a tough ask for BYU.

2065
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they can't do it, but man, that

2066
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 5: is a tough ask for them to do it at

2067
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 5: like with great efficiency. But that's what's gonna be so

2068
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 5: interesting about this game. So we'll see how it plays out.

2069
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 5: I wanted to throw something your way. Where our guy

2070
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 5: John Gruden, he had a thought about these conference championship games,

2071
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:25,879
Speaker 5: and I thought it was really interesting.

2072
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 4: It's on his barstool channel over there on YouTube and

2073
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 4: listen to what he lays.

2074
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 5: Out in terms of some teams playing for their conference

2075
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 5: championship games and a lot of other teams just watching

2076
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 5: those teams play.

2077
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 4: Kind of interesting. Check this out see if you buy

2078
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 4: in what he's selling.

2079
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 3: Here, here's my problem.

2080
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 9: I just point this out to you. Here's Indiana playing

2081
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:53,560
Speaker 9: Ohio State for the Big Ten championship. Meanwhile Oregon is

2082
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 9: sitting at home getting a bye week before the tournament starts.

2083
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 3: What logic is that?

2084
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 9: Then he got Alabama playing Georgia for the championship, and

2085
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 9: you got a team like Old Miss and Texas A

2086
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 9: and M.

2087
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: They're freshness at Daisy Man.

2088
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 9: They don't even have to play a game, but they

2089
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 9: get into the tournament.

2090
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 3: What kind of logic is this.

2091
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 9: That's like the top two seeds in the NFC, Let's

2092
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 9: say the Chicago Bears and the La Rams having to

2093
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 9: play to see who the number one seed of the

2094
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 9: NFC is before we go to the playoffs. Meanwhile, we

2095
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 9: got everybody else that's in the playoffs sitting at home

2096
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 9: having a bye week.

2097
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Hell no, it doesn't make sense.

2098
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying this.

2099
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 9: If you're gonna have these conference games, I'm all for that,

2100
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 9: we can have the Big ten championship game.

2101
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 3: Ohio State, go.

2102
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 9: Play Indiana, Alabama, you go play Georgia, Texas Tech, go

2103
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 9: play BYU in Virginia, you go play Duke.

2104
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 3: But the rest of you guys, you guys are getting

2105
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 3: off the hook. Some of you guys got to keep proving.

2106
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 9: Your resumes worthy by playing another game as well.

2107
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,560
Speaker 4: What do you think they make a good argument. I

2108
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 4: think it makes a lot of sense.

2109
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how you.

2110
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 5: Would have everybody play games, but the concept makes total sense.

2111
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 4: That is a luxury.

2112
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 5: Think about the team. Maybe it's Oregon that's not playing

2113
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 5: today that could be in line for a buye, like

2114
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 5: that's a double win, or you get a buy this week.

2115
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 5: Maybe you get a buye in the first week of

2116
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 5: the playoff potentially that that's a huge advantage.

2117
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 4: So he definitely makes a good argument there.

2118
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 6: One hundred percent agree with his argument. Not sure if

2119
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 6: there's a clean way of fixing this problem, but one

2120
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 6: hundred percent agree with his argument. Now, for a team

2121
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 6: who maybe isn't so lucky to have an opportunity for

2122
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 6: an out large bid playing for a conference championship, and

2123
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 6: maybe an underdog getting a w and quote unquote sneaking into.

2124
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 3: The playoff bracket.

2125
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 6: You wouldn't complain about the fact that everybody else is

2126
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 6: getting a buye because that was your golden ticket. But

2127
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 6: for the rest of these teams, who aren't you know,

2128
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 6: Charlie waiting for his trip to the chocolate factory because

2129
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 6: he opened up the right chocolate bar.

2130
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 8: Man.

2131
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 6: It's just yeah, it's rest and leisure and an opportunity

2132
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 6: to get healthy, while teams who you're gonna be facing

2133
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 6: against worthy opponents not only are playing football, which is

2134
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 6: a vicious sport, but also potentially injuring some of their

2135
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 6: key players. That's the other thing that we fail to

2136
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 6: remember and part of the reason why you have this

2137
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 6: mass exodus of star players participating in bowl games prior

2138
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 6: to the college football playoff or should say postseason games

2139
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 6: because you want to preserve yourself for an opportunity to

2140
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 6: play in the NFL.

2141
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 3: Well, this is no different.

2142
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 6: Now you have a situation where teams who are not

2143
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 6: good enough to perform in the conference championship game record wise,

2144
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 6: but are still at large teams getting a bye week.

2145
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 3: It's not fair. Yeah, here's the best solution in my mind.

2146
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Speaker 6: You make it so that if it's gonna be a

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Speaker 6: twelve week season, the final week of that twelve week

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Speaker 6: season is conference championship week. And whether you're if you're

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Speaker 6: in the game, obviously you drop the opponent you were

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 6: scheduled against. That opponent has a bye, and it's just

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01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 6: the luck of their stars that they happen to get

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01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 6: that buy and you.

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01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 3: Play against the rival conference champion.

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Speaker 6: And if it so happens that that's the scheduling match anyways,

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01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 6: well that's to the benefit of the whole conference and

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01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 6: all of college football, and.

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Speaker 3: Everybody can rest easy. Not if it's not.

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Speaker 6: It just means, my goodness, how lucky Oregon was slated

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Speaker 6: to play against Ohio State the final game of the season.

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 6: They got lucky and they got a by on their

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Speaker 6: way into the conference. Or it should say the CFP,

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01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 6: Ohio State has to play Indiana, because that is what

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Speaker 6: the Big Ten Championship game.

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Speaker 3: Is going to be, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: It's the fairest way to get this job done, where

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01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 6: everybody's playing the same amount of football leading to the CFP,

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Speaker 6: and you have only a limited opportunity if a conference

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Speaker 6: champion is scheduled against an at large team to have

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Speaker 6: a team get a quote unquote unfair by right.

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Speaker 3: I vote John Gruden for College Football Commissioner. Didn't it

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01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 3: made so much? Well, he's describing two kind of versions

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01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 3: of reality. One he's describing like a world where there's

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01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 3: no conferences at all, and it's just like an expanded playoff.

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Speaker 3: Like that's kind of the first realm of it. And

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Speaker 3: then the second realm of it is he's describing fairness,

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01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 3: and that is something that the playoff committee doesn't always

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Speaker 3: take into account, nor does sports always take into account,

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Speaker 3: Like life isn't always fair. So like we make the argument, oh, well,

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01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 3: sports shouldn't be fair r because life isn't fair. And

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: I get that. But there's ways to make it more fair,

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01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 3: and this is absolutely one of them, I think, and

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01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 3: I've made this argument on this show for four years.

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01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 3: The conferences are irrelevant. We have evolved past them. They

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01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 3: are in existence for nostalgia purposes only and money. That's it.

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01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 3: We don't need an SEC championship game today. We don't

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01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 3: need a Big ten championship game today. It is not

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01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 3: necessary in order to move forward with the playoff. We

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 3: can look at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, and Indiana and

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01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: say those are playoff teams. Let's rank them, seed them,

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Speaker 3: and start the playoff. This is for extra the cherry

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Speaker 3: on top, Like that's now you want to say the

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01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 3: ACC Championship game matters. Okay, that's like a play in

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Speaker 3: game Big twelve Championship game. I'll be honest. Eleven and

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 3: one BYU probably deserves to be in. They probably do,

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Speaker 3: and this Big twelve Championship game probably not necessary for

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01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 3: me to look at BYU and say, you know what,

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01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: you're probably one of the twelve best teams in the

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01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 3: country this year, but we are in this We're locked

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Speaker 3: into this conference structure, and it's just I think it

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01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 3: is taking away from what the playoff can be. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll eliminate them one day. And then the promotion relegation

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01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 3: system that I've talked about on the show for years.

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01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 3: I know you guys are probably against it. I get

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 3: a lot of pushback when I put that out there

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01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 3: on social media, like go back to Europe EPL. But

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01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 3: I think that is another thing that we could use

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01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 3: as a promotion system, Like hey, maybe North Texas Tulane

2208
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 3: the winner of that game gets into the playoff division

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Speaker 3: next year and again, we're going off the rails here,

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Speaker 3: but I think Gruden's hypothesis is very sound.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me throw one at you before we

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01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 5: start talking to EPL real fast. Yes, Marcus Freeman, Notre

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01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 5: Dame's head coach, he made a statement, I want to

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01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 5: get your two cents super fast here. So he said,

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01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 5: the more teams you give an opportunity to play in

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01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 5: the playoffs, the better. Everybody can have their own opinion,

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01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 5: but I always favor more. Would you want more teams?

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01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't.

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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 5: Would you change anything? I think it's fine the way

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01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 5: it is twelve teams. The regular season matters a ton.

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01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 5: I love that we have these arguments. I hate that

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01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 5: my Irish might be left out. But this isn't bad

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01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 5: for college football. And I still look at this. It's

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01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 5: a good cutoff line. Win more games and spare me

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01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 5: your tiers, right, Like Notre Dame beat Texas A and

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01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 5: M at home. Don't give up yards and yards and

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01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 5: points and points, and like, if you win one of

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01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 5: those two games at the beginning of the year, you're

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01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 5: a shoe win.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think we need more teams. Would you

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01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 4: change anything quickly?

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Speaker 3: Rich you?

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01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 4: Would you do anything I would.

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Speaker 3: I would bump it up to fourteen or sixteen.

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Speaker 6: I think college basketball has it right. I think the

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01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 6: NFL has it right. There are less teams and more

2237
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 6: playoff teams in the NFL, right, let thirty two teams

2238
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 6: fourteen spots, one hundred and thirty teams.

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Speaker 3: In college football twelve spots. So there's room. Okay.

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Speaker 6: College basketball is two things really quick that they do great.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's got a shot in a tournament. You have to

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01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 6: obviously play some semblance of good basketball, and you know,

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01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 6: wins stuff like that, right.

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Speaker 3: But the other part about it that I love is

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01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 3: the fact that.

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 6: Cinderella is are a real thing. You don't really have

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01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 6: Cinderell's with a twelve team playoff.

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Speaker 3: You agree with everything. Rich says, I think sixteen probably

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Speaker 3: the max. Sixteen.

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Speaker 4: I stay twelve, I stay here, right.

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Speaker 5: We've got rich O hon Berger Penn State all American

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01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 5: fan of expansion. We've got Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst

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01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:28,959
Speaker 5: fan of expansion. I'm Brian no, not a fan of expansion.

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Speaker 3: This light expansion, not a major, that's true, A bump

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Speaker 3: like call it inflation.

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Speaker 5: No more expanding the segment, all right, shutting up now

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Speaker 2: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 4: Okay, shared, we start with you.

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01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,839
Speaker 3: What do you like? All right, Let's go brock Lowry

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01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 3: over one twenty four and a half passing yurds. Who

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01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 3: is brock Lowry not brock Leslier, not brock Per not

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01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: Kyle Lowry.

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01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 4: Brock Lowry.

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Speaker 3: He's the Western Michigan quarterback. Not much of a thrower,

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01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 3: but this number is way too low for conference championship game,

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01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 3: so we'll go over one twenty four and a half

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 3: passing yards. I think they throw it a little bit

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01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 3: today against Miami. I will go BYU plus twelve and

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01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 3: a half against Texas Tech. I've been honking the Coogs

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01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 3: all day long. I've got to back it up here,

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 3: so I'll go Coog's to keep it just close enough.

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01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they went out right, but I

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01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 3: think this is a competitive game, and I think bear

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01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 3: Bachmeyer is going to have himself at least one of

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Speaker 3: his better games of the year, at least, I hope,

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01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 3: And I'll go Indiana team total under twenty one and

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01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 3: a half. The Ohio State hasn't given up seventeen to

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01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 3: anyone this year. They're giving up twenty two to Indiana. Tonight.

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01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't think so, so Indiana team total under twenty

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01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 3: one an hope all right, all.

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Speaker 6: Of a sudden, that Big twelve Championship game is the

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01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 6: bragging rights ball. I'm taking Texas Tech minus twelve and

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01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 6: a half, so diametrically opposed to my Knitney lion Jared

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01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 6: Smith Alabama.

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01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Dogs against the Dogs plus one.

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 6: And a half hosting the SEC championship hip game, Crimson Tide.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe they're frauds. I believe their college football

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Speaker 3: playoff gold.

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01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 4: You will and then those a hard way, well, you

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01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 4: boo the Crimson Tide.

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01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm cheering the Who's, so maybe those boos are who's.

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01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 6: I'm hearing from the stands. I got the Virginia Cavaliers

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01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 6: minus four and a half against the.

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Speaker 5: Dookies diametrically opposed like sign me up to Fantastic. I'm

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01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 5: on the Red Raiders minus twelve and a half as well,

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01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 5: like listen man, the Red Raiders were terrible in the

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01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 5: red zone in the first meeting. I just don't see

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01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 5: the Koogs playing as well in the red zone a

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Speaker 5: second time around, and they're gonna have a hell of

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Speaker 5: a time scoring man. Texas Tech is just so good

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01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 5: up front, they're gonna have to throw it. I'm gonna

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01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 5: fade the quarterback that Whear's number forty seven, throwing the

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Speaker 5: ball all over the place. I'm just gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Give me.

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01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 5: Give me an Alabama wide receiver. Give me Isaiah Horton

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01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 5: over thirty one and a half receiving yards. Where's number

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01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 5: one Miami transfer Ryan Williams been invisible? And all Ty

2331
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 5: Simpson did in the first game has spread the ball

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Speaker 5: all around? So I look for that to happen again.

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Speaker 5: And give me Georgia running back Chauncey Bowens. Give me

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Speaker 5: over thirty six and a half rushing yards. Ran it

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Speaker 5: all over Bama in the first game. I think they

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Speaker 5: run it all over them again in this one. So

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Speaker 5: give me Chauncey.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the games.