WEBVTT - MLB: Leading Off June 7th, 2023 (Ep. 685) 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:12.200 Welcome in Fantasy Bros. M LB. This This My Friends 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.440 is leading off Live Rowdy by Prize Big. Sign up 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.640 for Prize Big today with the promo code leading off. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.759 When you do, it's me Joey Pit Joe Pi's Apia. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.320 That of course is the Welsh's hair looks magnificent today. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.560 I already told him, and it's all of you. It's 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.479 the Peanuts and the Cracker Jacks and today, boys and girls, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.400 It's gonna be a good show. It's gonna be a 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.519 Yesterday was, in essence, the perfect show he wanted to 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.440 having his in baseball, where you have the perfect show 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:43.400 where everything, all the universe, all the stars, everything aligns 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.920 all at one time, and we had that yesterday on 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.000 the program. In the middle of the program we willed 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.080 the call up of Ellie de la Cruz. Literally minutes later, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.240 Ellie de la Cruz got called up. We discussed how 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.360 alec Mino was gonna get sent down. Not only did 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.280 he get sent down, he got sent down to Little League. 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.880 I think the AAU team was full, so they had 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.280 to put him in the Florida Coast League. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:08.479 Also, I threw in that there's no way that he's 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.000 just gets optioned. Like, You're like, he can get option 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.280 I'm like, no, there's not. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.640 Only did you get optioned, he got the hell optioned 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.399 out of him Alec yesterday. Uh we also had the 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.880 career high thirteen strikeouts for the ladder bet if Kevin 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.520 Gosman I talked about on the show yesterday. Kevin Gosman 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.440 was my two prize picks and Shoeyl Tani was the 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:27.759 other one. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.440 He hit a home run I was betting. I want 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.319 to point out I was. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.920 And hit my I got my White Sox upset on 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.560 the money line, I got Kevin Gosman and DFS Kevin 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.520 Goslin Ladder Bet, Kevin Gosmin prize pick, oh Tani home 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.640 run call. I've got three home runs Welsh in the 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:50.440 last two days. Welsh. Yesterday was a good day. Today 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:51.880 is going to be a good day too, and of 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.280 course it's a sad day as well. As much as 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.840 we're happy about Ellie de la Cruz and we're going 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.600 to talk about that debut, we also have to talk 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.800 about Jacob de Grom too. I'd like to put a 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.760 poll up here because I promised that I would sing 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.680 a Sarah McLaughlin song when Tommy John surgery did happen 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.560 for Jacob de Gram and I'm not reveling in this 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.000 like I'm sad he's set. It was a very emotional 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.360 press conference Saturday for Jacob de Gram. Jacob de Gram 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.280 was in tears. He feels terrible what he loves to 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.960 do is being taken away from him. He's already had 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.639 one Tommy John surgery. But Welsh to the point of, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.320 you know, he is getting paid one hundred and eighty 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.000 five million dollars, so that cushions the blow. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.600 So are you saying what you want him to wipe 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:28.760 his tears with one hundred dollars? 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.200 Bill wondering how about thousands rolling out? I love this show, 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.320 I told Welsh before the show. I love this show. 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.080 I love what I do. I love talking football, I 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.359 love talking baseball. I love being with the people here 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.440 in the shows. I love Fantasy World, I love all that. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.919 If you told me here's one hundred and eighty five 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.640 million dollars you could never do it again, I'd say, Wow, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.359 I had a good run. I'll find a hobby, I 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.520 will figure things out. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.079 I mean, I think you probably need to get a 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.880 little bit more relative money, like sure, I would tell 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.760 you all the kick rocks and never speak to any 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.720 of you again for one hundred and eighty million dollars 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:01.120 and you can remember my memory. But more relative, like, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.840 how about like twenty thousand dollars? 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.840 No no, no, no, no, no no no, it would 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.640 have to be at least a million dollar walk away 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.400 from me at least. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.480 Well think about also, like if it's one hundred and 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.480 eighty million dollars, get your yearly salary times at times 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.360 five and say you can never do this again. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.359 No, no, I need more anymore. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:24.200 You're very greedy. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.200 I am very greedy, I know, but I also love this. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.720 So that's what I'm saying. And well that's what he needed. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.120 Maybe he needed more money. Maybe one hundred and eighty 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.400 five is your five times your salary. So he's crying. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.280 He's like, I don't know if I'm gonna be able 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.360 to make more. I'm going to miss my money. And 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.680 he can't leave it. So perspective, Joe, that's what about 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.920 you here? Before we get into the positive stuff here, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.680 let's just hit the grom up at the top here 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.320 at the beginning, because it is there to hit up, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.800 because it's what's up this was the community at large 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:58.160 failed most people this year. The baseball community of analysts 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.760 who ranked Jacob de Gram and drafted Jacob de Grom 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.920 as SP five overall. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.720 Well, I mean, I'm one of those guys they didn't 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.160 have at five, but I was one. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.800 He was at five in the consensus, which means enough 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.280 people put him at five. I am him at twenty, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.840 and people yelled at me. And my purpose was, there's 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.920 twenty guys. I can theoretically say to myself, realistically say 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.479 to myself, all of these twenty guys I like better 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:24.960 than Jacob d Gram that I think are going to 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.760 pitch more than Jacob de Gram, And I get the 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.120 whole quality verse quantity argument. I understood that. But the 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.680 risk was so great for a player who had not 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.799 made a lot of starts in the last three years, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.480 who we knew was on the precipice of another injury. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.800 Who and I keep coming back to this point because 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.600 I think it's so important. The Mets offer was clearly ceremonial. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.720 They gave him a crappy offer, ceremonial because he had 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.680 been a good soldier for the organization and a great 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.240 met and a great pitcher. He had been a superlative pitcher, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.080 and no other team in Major League Baseballs If the 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.520 Texas Rangers come after you, that tells you something is wrong, 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.040 And that tells you, Welsh, everybody wants to win. All 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.960 these team have money to spend. Jacob Degron, the best 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.719 pitcher in baseball's on the market, and only the Texas 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.320 Rangers come after you. That was the biggest red flag ever. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.240 And I think the community at large failed everybody. This 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.919 show did not fail everybody. Fantasy Pros MLB did not 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.720 fail everybody, But I think the community at large, all 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.840 they wanted to see was the positive. And I think 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.239 that that is really a failure at every level because 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.600 you're trying to help people win fantasy leagues, and at 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:26.880 the end of the day, it doesn't help people win 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.239 fantasy leagues when you say, yeah, that's a top five pitcher, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.119 because it's it's a bad evaluation based on the data 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.000 you have. Welsh, your thoughts, I mean, I don't agree with. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.440 I gotta tell you, I don't you disagree with everything 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.360 that came out of your mouth. I don't agree with 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.240 because he is the best pitcher in baseball when he pitched. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.919 You had the foresight or at least the cautiousness to 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:53.200 be like any injury stuff is not my bag, this 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.279 is not what I'm going to do, and not, I 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.440 think is the positive. I do agree. In the very 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.840 very very early stages, I was looking at Ta Graham 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.040 and I was like, man, we're you know, top three 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.720 four SP and I moved off of that into the 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.279 important draft season, but I still had a. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.719 SP in terms of talent. Yes, yeah, but that's. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.680 What I'm that's what I'm getting at. I moved it 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.200 back to like seven or eight. But at the end 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.880 of the day, it's all a calculated risk. His risk 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.880 meter was just way higher. So drafting him at you know, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.640 the corner or the turn of like the second round, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.600 like that's stuff. I couldn't even do that. As much 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.320 as I like Jacob de Gram, I couldn't do that. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.159 But I think the narrative of like why you jump 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.960 in on Jacob de Grom is sound, and I think 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:41.000 the narrative of why he's a risk is sound and 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.840 sometimes those things mean. But it wasn't like, you know, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.240 he had this huge, big strain that he was dealing with, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.280 and it was maybe as to Tommy John none of 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.960 that was live. It was just like he's an injury risk. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.479 He was being babied in spring. Early on, he looked 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.000 really good. We got good reports outside of the baby. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.200 It's just to kind of failure across the board. I 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.400 don't think it's a failure necessarily by I mean, if 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.280 there's like some analysts that's like, screw it, you know, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:08.239 nothing matters. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.120 There's no recr when the expert consensus rankings gets to 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.120 a point where enough people say, yes, this is a 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.520 good investment for everyone at SP five as a second 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.000 or third round pick. It's absurd. And it's nothing to 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.680 do with the range. Like at the end of the day, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.600 it has to do with what's been happening with this player. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.560 And I understand, like I get it. I no one 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.000 sees it better than me. I watched him pitch in 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.000 my living room for the last eight years, and I 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.960 know how great he is, and I know how much 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.720 fun it is. But but collectively, you had to give 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:40.760 a bigger discount of drafts in order to make him 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.480 a bible pick. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.360 That was just what I That is what I agree with. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.160 The thing that always bugged me is I wanted to 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.520 be I always want to be the big chickob to 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.240 ground guy because it's like, there's not a question that 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.480 he's the best pitcher when he pitches, and that sometimes 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.680 is the thing where someone's like, well, this could be no, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.680 he's the best when he pitches. So that was bar Nune. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.560 I always wanted more of a discount, and that's what's rough. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.360 Sometimes there was more, but there's so much more fantasy analysts. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.160 There are more shows. There's so many more of us 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:13.120 that the deals are so much less in spots where 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.240 you wish, you'd wish rookies without any proven talent you 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.240 could get a little bit more you can't. You would 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.800 wish a guy like Jacob de Gram on that bet 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.880 you get a little bit more you can't. And and overall, 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.960 pitching has been a really weird and dynamic kind of 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.760 thing in fantasy that we're all bad and I taking 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.400 pitching early. The pitching early stuff was my biggest run. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.360 Well Look Black book one on one this year was 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.320 look fade away from these top pictures, Go with that 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.480 secondary because the value was all in the secondary group. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.040 It was in the Zach Gallons of the world, the 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.280 Kevin Gosman's of the world, all those guys. That's where 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.440 the value is a pitching. It was so obvious not 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.600 to do it. But again, wait, when you have such 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.760 a consensus that's out there in the space, it's it's 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.280 everybody looking at the positive. And I'm a positive guy. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.360 I'm a positive beeat, I'm a positive piece of bea okay, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.800 but you too much too much on the positive, not 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.839 enough on the Oh my god, some glaring negatives here 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.280 that we've all got to be super concerned with. And 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.840 the follow the money. Follow the money at the end 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.800 of the day, because if you follow the money, the 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.800 Texas Rangers again, when the best picture and when Joey 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.599 o'tani goes out in free agency, you think he's not 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.480 gonna have multiple offers, but multiple team And I know 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.520 you canna roll your eyes about that, but like, but 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.679 Jacob de Gram is that guy? He is? 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.440 Yeah, but it's baseball. Don't call the Dodgers, don't call 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.000 I mean, but but you don't know that, Like, there's 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.920 also we do we know that we did do? Did Bor? 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.840 Did we get that from Boris that no other team calls? 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.640 Think in his day of age that not that doesn't leak. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.360 Everything leaks somebody farts and it leaks out there in 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.480 terms of you know, do you. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.160 Know how many times we've heard these stories where it's like, oh, yeah, 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.960 by the way, two years ago, you didn't know this, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.160 but this guy was almost traded for this guy, but 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:54.839 then this one person didn't pick up the phone and 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.200 it never happened. Jacob to Gram also has a price, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.520 So there's twenty I bet you twenty two teams were like, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.880 it's not worth it because we know the market price. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.680 The Mets put out their offer knowing it's not the 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.640 market price, but they want to just put out what 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.360 it is. I will refuse to believe that it was 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.160 only the Texas Rangers that gave a call. There's probably 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.320 lots of teams that checked in. They're like, hey, is 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.000 that market price? 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.480 What it is? 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:18.359 Okay? 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:18.960 Click? 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.040 People didn't want to pay it. But at the end 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.640 of the day, this is the whole thing about Jacob 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:23.480 de Grom. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:29.800 That there was an offer. John Hayman, Morossi Night, all 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.520 those guys, all those guys, Ken Rosenthal and his bow 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.760 tie would have been all over it. And I'm telling 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.280 you they weren't there because they and there's nothing else 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.080 for these guys to do except report those offers or 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.920 those conversations. There was not even a conversation report in 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.680 the off season. The number of pitchers that have had 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:50.040 more than one Tommy John surgery. I don't know exactly 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.599 that list of guys. But do you think at this 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.920 point that Jacob de Gram gets back from the second 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:58.400 one here? 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.840 Yeah, he's gonna come back. But I'm just like, I 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.600 just don't like, I'm done like and I can be 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.880 like this. You know, you guys not. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.320 You can be done our chat, he's not pitching this year, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.679 and he's not pitching next year. I think we all understand. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.120 Hope I get back at the end of next year. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.720 Our group chat was hilarious yesterday with Wonky and you 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.960 should have seen piece of Pa just dancing because then 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.000 also you had the injury with Bucks and so it's 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:20.720 the major crack. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.959 I wasn't dancing. I don't dance for people's injuries, but 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.000 dancing I am, I am, and I'm not dancing on 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.160 anyone's grave. Here today, I'm saying the process I was 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.400 saying it in February, said it in March. The pros 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.920 Kippen Shannon Today, this is undisputed. Yeah, I'm sure about that, bro. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:37.559 No. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.480 But but again, it was just it was mind blowing 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.240 to me that I said, Okay, here it is in February. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.840 It's SP five. That's going to change as people start 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.319 to you know, have their moments and start to evaluate. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.640 And then it never changed. And I kept looking up 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.679 at it and I'm seeing all these guys and I'm like, 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.560 how how are we getting to draft season? It's still 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.199 the same from me gone, by the way, hold on, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.600 I'll get the pollars Jacob deGrom. If he never pitches again, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:03.920 is you a Hall of Fame or mayor? Put this 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.319 poll up? Uh? Seventy four percent said no. Do you 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:06.960 agree with that? 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.880 I think I said this in CBS Lesson. I think 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.960 it's almost like Treel Davis, you know, like what Treel 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.120 Davis did in his short time that yeah, but that's 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.800 like the point is he had Super Bowl wins and 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.680 like de gram was one of the great I think 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.880 he would sneak in at this point. But listen, he's 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.480 going to pitch again. He wants to pitch. He's got 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.320 a five year deal. At this age, thirty six is 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.480 the new thirty one. These guys are pitching till forty. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.040 He's gonna pitch, but I'm done. And guess what, it's 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.440 all good because the discount will be massive. We don't 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.040 have to worry about this until two thousand and twenty five. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.319 I'm not interested next year. I don't care if he's 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.640 gonna maybe pitch next Tody, it's done. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.160 Cody, I love you. You troll me in the chat. I 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.199 get you would have been different with the Mets. No, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.760 it was insane with them. It doesn't matter where he went. Okay, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.000 this the the evaluation was bad. It was bad by 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.400 the fantasy community at large. Going in now. I knew 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.040 another poll up there because I said I'd sing a 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.400 Sarah McLaughlin song, and Welsh is going to read off 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.160 all the accolades of Jacob de Grom. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.800 I don't go with the boys to men, So it's either. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.520 I think. I think the in the Arms of the 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.800 Angels is a little depressing, Like he's not dead, he's 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.319 just having surgery. He's got one hundred and eighty five 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.040 million dollars. He's gonna come back, hopefully maybe the end 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.560 of next year, maybe September August, who knows if that happens. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.920 But he'll pitch again. Like, well, she's saying how he'll 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.400 be We don't know. So it's either that or I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.400 will remember you, which I think is is kinder because. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.400 I think you should do. I will remember you at 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.199 the end. I won't even say anything. I don't want 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.520 to step over you. I think you do. I will 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.120 remember you. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.880 Maybe you should sing it you have like a nice 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.000 Irish tenor voice. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.680 Yeah, well that at the end, Leve. Maybe we don't 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.680 need to do it now, like, let's talk the memories. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.040 Let's stop talking about Jacob all right, let's talk about 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.840 Alec Manoa dancing here. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.400 Let's talk about Elie de la Cruz. Now, let's be positive. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.800 Elie de la Cruz. This was great. Eli Dola Cruz 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.679 ran so fast around their base he almost caught the 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.800 guy ahead of him. It was amazing. Last night he 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.920 walked twice, he had a double, one hundred and twelve 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.880 miles an hour off the bat. He was just he 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.040 was great. Everything was great. I'm spoiler alert, I'm picking 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.400 him for the home run call tonight. It was everything 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.600 we wanted got Ellie de la Cruz. The electricity in 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.840 the ballpark was fantastic. They came back and won Welsh 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.640 Let's go the Reds. I'm like adopting the Reds the 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.400 rest of the season. I wanted to be great for them. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.080 That's what I want. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.960 Yeah, I'm getting super over zealous. I can feel myself 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.520 doing it. I can hear myself saying it. I'm like, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.560 in the back of my head as I start talking 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.000 about Ellie, I understand some of the like too much 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.080 of it, but listen, he's a crazy talent. I've likened 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.800 this too, maybe similar to Fernando Tatis Junior and his debut. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.000 They had similar strikeout issues, better walk better patients coming 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.520 out of Elie de la Cruz walked his first at bat, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.520 two bad at balls over one oh eight. The guy 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.880 can fly. He is all the talent and upside of 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.800 O'Neill Cruise with less swing and miss and more ability 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.160 to get on base. And I think at this point, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.240 even this day, and this might be the me being ridiculous, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.240 and that's fine, but at this moment, I think Ellie. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.720 You can view Ellie as a top seven to eight 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.200 shortstop rest of season, and that's putting. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:28.080 I don't think him up Bobby Witt Junior or that's 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:28.880 Ellie Dela Cruz. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.040 Yeah, that's what I call it. The Bobby Witt line 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.680 is like perfect. I think it's like Lindor Bobby Witt 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.680 somewhere in the gear Wit. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.120 Is a quote speed guy with power, but the batting 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.520 average hasn't been there, that's for sure, Lindor. You know, 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.440 I just wrote up Lindor in the Fantasy Pros feature 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.320 Pros that we're doing for the body blow cell high 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.760 every week, and Lindor's struggling mightily against right handed pitching 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.480 this year. He's a two sixty hitter for his career 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.400 against right hand pitching that don't come around. He's still 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.160 got eleven home runs. Like I'd be buying Lindor. He's 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.720 rather an the door rest of season than el. But 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.960 Bobby Witt, that's a good question. See. My only thing with. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.720 Bobby Witt is like we know exactly who Bobby Witt is. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.040 And to be fair, if Ellie's middle ground was what 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.200 Bobby Witt is right now, we'd all be fine with it. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.360 If he was hitting like two forty, you know, double 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.920 digit store. There's one hundred games left. Ellie's rest of 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.760 season projections they only had him about fifty eight games 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.000 but every projection was about it was like just under 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.040 ten homers ten rbi. So if you put that over 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.400 one hundred games, the one hundred game projections, which is 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.920 going to be the low baseline is like fifteen to 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.240 fifteen On Ellie, I think the power is going to 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.520 go up. If he's a twenty fifteen guy. You can 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.200 see where the upside is. If the batting average is low. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.840 He is what Bobby Witt is. My only argument here 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.840 is like middle low, Bobby Wit is maybe what median 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.520 line Ellie is going to be. So I might slightly 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.160 pick Bobby Wit Junior, but I but either way, he 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:55.880 lives in that world and you're not having to pick. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.240 None of you guys are having to like be like 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:57.600 should we. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.200 Kind of like the ballparks back. I kind of like 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.640 the samel of what's going on with the the energy 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.000 of the Reds last night in that building. If they 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.919 can kind of capitalize on that a little bit special, 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.560 you want to know what happens, Yes, is right around 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.600 the corner too, Like that guy's gonna come. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.600 Up to so his buddy Cees last night dropping a 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:16.920 couple hundred and ten mile an hour hits as well. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.720 He gets in there, it's gonna be electric. And what 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.880 I loved, they threw him right in hitting four. They 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.399 threw I think he was like the first twenty year 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.840 old or whatever the hell it was twenty one year 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.040 old to hit four on his debut. That's huge. Matt 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.720 McClain's hitting, Jonathan India's hitting, gets Cees hitting behind him 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.080 in Great America Ballpark. It is the Lli Show. It 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.719 is worthwhile. And my god, if he wasn't available, if 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.480 he was like open world stuff and fab and he 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.800 hasn't been picked up, he's gonna go for everything. You're 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.160 gonna dump your entire fab ball. 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.119 Look, he's been on multiple videos. I know he was 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.480 on last week's too. Last week was the big salvo 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.119 here on the channel where I did the video and 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.359 I said, look, Waiver Wire led other crews, this is it, Like, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.240 you gotta do it now because if you don't do 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.000