WEBVTT - Chad Pennington Podcast (1.6.2016) 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.799 Welcome to another installment of the Jet Pennyson Podcast. Erik 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:15.319 Ellen here with CP. Well, Chad, I really thought when 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.720 we spoke last week, when we were going to talk 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.040 again this week, it was going to be a playoff preview, 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.280 But unfortunately the Jets, who had a tremendous season with 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.239 ten wins, just couldn't get it done in Buffalo in 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.320 a win in their in scenario, What would you tell 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:41.320 a Jet fan right now? Well, there's not much that 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.560 I could say to Jeff Amicles. I know the response. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.080 It's going to be the same old Jets. I've been 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.480 through this for my whole life, you know, a lot 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.200 of years, Chad. Don't paint a pretty picture those types 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.040 of things. I will say that, Um, you have to 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.600 be proud of your team for bouncing back from my 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.920 four and twelve season and come in out at ten 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.319 and six. Um. I've seen teams do that and not 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.400 make the playoffs. Typically ten and six get you in, UM, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.560 and it would have. If you were sitting there as 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.560 a Pittsburgh deeler, you would be getting in the playoffs 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.920 at ten and six. But you're not. And so the 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:25.399 most frustrating part is that your team had a chance 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.960 to control its own destiny, and it didn't. And when 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.000 that happens, that can be most frustrating for fans, for coaches, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.000 for players. I think that's why you saw the emotion 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.400 of the players after the game, and they truly took 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.440 this loss to heart, and knowing that the game was 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.959 in their hands, they did not have to rely upon 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.120 anyone or any team to get them into the playoffs, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.880 and that's what's most frustrating, all right, before we go 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.000 into a little analysis on that ball game and then 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.639 we look ahead and talk about things on a whole 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.240 love on a macro level. Two thousand and fifteen, you 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:08.000 mentioned it here early on Same Old Jets. How disgusted 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.880 did you hear that when you were a player, and 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.000 even now as you're still connected with the organization, how 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.120 much do you not like that line? Because I was 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.640 I was actually battling a couple of folks on Twitter 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.360 on Sunday night, and I think sometimes people get irrational 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.839 and they forget about what has happened with this organization, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:35.359 especially since Woody Johnson took over. Well, as a player, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.480 it's frustrating because you have nothing to do with previous 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.679 seasons or years where you weren't part of the organization. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.760 And so for the eight years that I was there, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:50.040 I was a part of four playoff team that and 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.119 when you look at the grand scheme of things, that's 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.360 not a bad average, knowing that there's a lot of 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.960 players that I played with in this league that never 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.280 even the playoffs and we had a chance to play 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.840 for World championship four out of the eight years that 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.760 I was there. And so as a player, you don't 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.520 like to hear that. I don't like to hear that 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.480 now and I don't even play for the jest because 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.840 it it UH ties you too some of that history 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.240 that you weren't responsible for UM, and so it can 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.480 be frustrating. UM. But what you have to focus on 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.440 is a player, is uh the good things that you 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.560 did as a team as a player of what you 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.040 need to improve on. Knowing that the nucleus is there, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.840 the corps is there, UM to make another run and 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.600 to be competitive and have a chance to win a 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.120 championship next year, obviously there has to be some pieces 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.800 that have to be signed and added, and more than 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.960 ever teams, it is a year to year thing with 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:54.240 these teams UM, because of all of the turnover and 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.360 transition by players throughout the league. So what you've done 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.960 in the past doesn't really matter. They have to retool, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.080 look at what they need to do better and get 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.080 ready for the two thason. Yeah, I think some people's 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:12.640 narrative that this organization is cursed as at times laughable 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:18.760 considering what has this organization done over the course of 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.560 the past year. Todd Bowles, Mike mccagne came in, took 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.960 over UH and in two thousand fifteen New York Jets 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.960 where four win football team. Mike mccagnell made a number 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.680 of moves in the off season and then Todd Bowles 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.080 and a brand new coaching staff had to put all 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:40.360 these pieces together and this team won ten games and 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:45.680 nobody after that ballgame, as you know, Chad was celebrating 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.200 and saying, hey, we want ten games this year. Brandon 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.560 Marshall was stunned, sat there, looked at the media on 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.719 Sunday night and said, no moral victories in this league. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.960 Todd Bowles said, we are he to compete for a 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.040 Super Bowl, so we have to get to the playoffs. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.880 We grew this year, but ultimately we did not get 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.880 to the playoffs. Well and they were just speaking truth 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.839 and speaking from the heart, and I completely agree with them. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.160 And so when you when you look at that's why 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.040 it is frustrating, UM, for fans, for players, for coaches, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.040 because you're so close, UM. But we know close doesn't 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.160 count when you look at the bigger perspective, No one, 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:34.799 including ourselves, probably expected this team to have a chance 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.880 to win eleven games, UM. When it all boils down 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.880 to it, not only ten wins, but really eleven games 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.760 right there that they could have easily been eleven and five, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.919 and no one gave this team that chance or thought 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.440 that that could happen. I think that most people were 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.640 looking at seven and nine in the nine and seven 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.800 would be a major, major improvement. And so I think 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.320 you have to be proud of the fact that this 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.359 team put itself in a position to get to the 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.159 playoffs and controls destiny. And I think as a fan, 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.039 I think we need to regroup as fans of of 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:17.040 football teams and of sports teams and realize that, UM, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.080 as a fan, if your team is competing at a 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.840 high level and putting itself in a position year in 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.000 and year out to play for a championship and has 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.720 the opportunity to do that. You need to feel good 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.200 about that, you really do. Now, if you're if your 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.240 team is at bottom and at the seller and not 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.599 making any improvement, not doing those things, then you certainly 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.560 have a reason to be frustrated. But if your team 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.960 can start to create a consistent product, create a consistent 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.920 product and compete for the playoffs and a championship year 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.600 in and year out, you need to do You need 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.520 to feel good about that, and you need to support 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.760 the team in that because there's only one team that 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.560 holds up that trophy and everybody else goes home losers, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.360 and so you have to realize how hard and how 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.560 difficult it is to win that Lombardi Trophy. Yeah, you're right, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.440 thirty one and thirty two teams will not get it 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.760 done this year. Even if you go to the Super 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:14.280 Bowl and lose. Bottom line, you didn't get it done. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.720 So the Jets right now obviously not satisfied proud of 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.000 their growth, and they should be. When you look back 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:28.240 at the Buffalo game, what stands out to you why 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:32.840 the Bills were able to overcome a Jets team who 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:38.720 needed that victory to secure their spot in the postseason. Well, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.880 a couple of things stand out. First of all, I 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.080 think watching the game live in the first quarter, I 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.720 felt like the Bills came to the field and came 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.960 to the ballpark with a little bit more energy, a 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.320 little bit more tenacity, a little bit more effort. And 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.520 I don't know if that was just because the Jets 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.600 being a little bit nervous or a little bit um 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.280 caught up in the moment maybe, Uh, you don't know. UM. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.960 Sometimes that can make you tight knowing that you you 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.600 have something like the playoffs to play for, whereas the 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.200 your opponent can just play loose, knowing that, hey, we 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.840 don't have anything to lose. We're trying to get the 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.240 five D and knock our arrival out of the playoffs. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.360 So I I saw that and felt that in the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.160 first quarter, um, and I just felt like that there 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.160 were times where typically the Jets football team plays good, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.600 complimentary football and they didn't do that this time around. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.000 For instance, when the Jets caused the fumble uh, there 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.600 were no points uh that the offense was able to 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.360 get off of that turnover, or when the Jets actually 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.400 had the turnover in the end zone with about ten 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.440 minutes less and the fourth quarter the defense allowed the 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.600 Bills to drive down and secure a field goal. So 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.920 that's a type of complimentary football that doesn't necessarily show 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.240 up in the statue, but it's so important to winning 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.040 football games watching one side pick the other side up 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.400 when something doesn't go its way. Really, thing about third down, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:09.319 the Bills nine and twenty on third down twenty times, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.800 you don't see that in the National Football League too often. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.079 Where a team has twenty attempts on third down, they 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:19.440 converted nine of those. Conversely, the Jets just three of eleven, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.480 and that led to a thirty nine minute time of 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:28.120 possession number for the Buffalo Bills. So the Jets weren't 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.760 on the field a lot in this game. They weren't 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.720 they didn't have very many opportunities, but the opportunities that 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.360 they did have, they didn't capitalize. And so that's the 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.199 type of complimentary football that we're talking about. I've played 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.800 in the game before where our Dolphins team had forty 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.800 five minute time of possession and we still lost. So 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.960 sometimes time of possession can be overrated. Obviously, most of 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.960 the time is a key to winning. But when you 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.280 look at the keys of the game and look at 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.600 the major plays that were made that it still have 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.840 could have won that game even with the lack of 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.440 time of possession, and so, um, you look at the game, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.080 you just feel like that Buffalo was quicker to the 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.760 punch for a lot of the a lot of the game. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.360 They had that the extra effort plays, they had, the 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:20.960 tenacity plays, they had the emotional plays, and they just 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.959 had more of those than the Jets did. And at 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.560 the end of the day, Um, it didn't come through 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.439 for the Jets. What do you think about the fourth 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.000 quarter there? The Jets got themselves in position, uh to 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.199 come back again, and we've seen them late during that 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.160 five game win streak. They found ways to win over 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.000 the Giants, they found a way to win over the Cowboys, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.120 they found a way against the Patriots, and it looked 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.840 like it was gonna happen one more time this regular 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:53.400 season as the Jets are down nineteen to seventeen, facing 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.680 a second and ten from the Bill's fourteen yard line, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.920 when Ryan Fitzpatrick looks for Eric Ducker and then at 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.400 that point, uh, you know, take me through your thoughts 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.160 on the fourth quarter. Well, I felt exactly the way 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.240 you're talking about. I felt like, Hey, this even though 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.240 things haven't gone the way the Jets had foreseen them 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.480 in the first three quarters, and even though that Buffalo 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.520 was playing extremely well, and and Buffalo was beating the 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.440 Jets to the punch on most of those series. You 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.560 get to the fourth quarter and you strip it all down. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.760 It's nineteen to seventeen. Jets have the ball and they're driving. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.680 What more could you ask for? You're in a hostile environment, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.360 it's a playoff style atmosphere, a hard place to play 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.679 in the vision rival you have the ball and and 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.080 and the possession in your hands and the opportunity to 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.040 take control of the game and grab the lead. And 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.120 so I felt really good for the Jets moving into 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.880 the fourth quarter, knowing that there had been some missed 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.520 opportunities and things weren't really going according to plan in 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.680 the first three quarters, and so I felt good about 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.040 the as chances moving into the fourth quarter, especially with 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.080 their history for the past few weeks where they were 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.240 putting teams away and finding ways to win in the 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.400 fourth quarter. And then be I thought the two series, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.599 one with the interception with the throw to Decker in 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.120 the end zone, and then following that with the long 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.040 drive by the Bills for the field goals. I mean, 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.840 those are the two series of the game right there. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.400 If one of those things don't happen, whether the Jets 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.440 don't throw the interception or the defense stops the Bills 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.439 from getting a field goals, the Jets probably win that game. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.080 And that's why it's so important to play complimentary football. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.760 It's also important to understand situations and sometimes in decision 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.760 making his quarterbacks, Um, decisions that you would make in 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.000 the first quarter, you don't make in the fourth quarter, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.920 or decisions you make in the fourth quarter. Uh down 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.520 a certain number of points in a certain situation, you 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.040 don't make that same decisions. So it's it's very situational. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.200 It's a feel, it's it's understanding, you know why the 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.440 team needs to get the job done, and obviously Ryan 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.960 would like to have that decision back. Yeah, Uh, Fitz 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.760 tried to hit Eric Decker, Leotis mccalvin comes up with 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.320 the interception, and you're right. At that point, it's nineteen seventeen, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:19.199 ten forty three left in the fourth quarter. The Jets 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.319 did not get the ball back until three forty nine 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.520 remained in the fourth quarter because the Bills, as they did. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.520 Seemed like most of the afternoon. They found ways to 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.640 convert on third down on the file on the ensuing drive, 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:42.000 I should say they converted three third downs exactly. And 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.560 you look at it, imagine if that if the Bills 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.959 go three and out after that interception, the office is 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.800 back on the field, they just had a drive, They're 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.120 starting to get in the groove. They probably go down 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.120 and score. And so that was a great job by 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.920 the Bills. You have to give them credit. They were 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.360 finding ways to convert on third down. They were being 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.040 very create him in their formations, using Tyrod Taylor to 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.280 run the ball. They were finding ways to get Sammy 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.560 walking at the ball and bracket coverage. Um, they were 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.160 just very opportunistic and uh, they found a way to 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.319 keep the Jets offense off the field and to continue 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.880 to They knew that the big play. I believe the 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.160 Bills went into the game knowing that the big play 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.760 was probably not going to be there a lot, and 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.880 so they just kept chipping away at it, dink and 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.120 dunk and keep moving the sticks, knowing that as long 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.000 as that we're on the field, Jets can't score. And 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.040 so that's exactly what they did. By holding the ball 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.040 for forty minutes during the game. Yeah, and listen, Samon 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.920 Watkins is a fantastic, fantastic talent and Jets is gonna 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.240 be competing against him for a number of years, and 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.240 we know he can get down the field. But that 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.520 was really the first time, uh, you know that I 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.120 could tell from a distance that the Bills said, hey, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.760 we're gonna get to him on some routes underneath. So 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.760 they did change up something's game plan wise. And there's 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.840 something I want to talk about here with you, plan wise, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.760 because people have continually asked me why Chris Ivory did 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.760 not get the ball more against the Buffalo Bills. Well, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.960 here's the deal, Chad. Last week at practice, Ivory was 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.800 limited with the knee injury Blaw. Paul did not suit 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.880 up for the Jets either, So of course everybody's dealing 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.520 with injuries. We know how critical Paul has been for 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.280 this team down the stretch, so he wasn't active. But 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.960 Ivory was limited at practice. So when the Jets were 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.320 preparing for the Bills, Stephen Ridley was the guy they 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.760 had to get ready for a number of packages. Now, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.480 the Jets weren't on the field a lot because they 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.080 want three of twelve on third down. So when you 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.000 look at the carriers, everybody at home shouting and saying, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:51.080 why not more Chris Ivory? While it's my belief, Chad, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.640 why not more Chris Ivory? Because number one, he was 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.000 limited a practice, so in preparation for the Bill's defense, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.720 a lot of the packages the Jets were getting ready 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.640 with work for Stephen Redley. And then secondly, the Jets 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.040 didn't have the ball at toon and thirdly, Ivory did 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:15.560 have more snaps than Ridley. Okay, so you know what's 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:20.160 your thoughts on that? Well, I agree. I think your 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.400 second reason is the most important reason. Let's say Chris 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.280 Irey is completely healthy and he had a belief six 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.760 carries um in this game with twenty minutes holding the ball, 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.960 It doesn't matter if he's completely healthy, he what would 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.680 he have? Ken carries? Twelve carries maybe? So you're still 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.560 gonna say that he didn't get the ball enough. Well, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.240 there's a reason why. Because the Jets couldn't stay on 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.280 the field on offense and they couldn't get off the 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.240 field on defense. And so regardless of who your playmakers are, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.640 they don't have an opportunity to get the ball, and 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.040 you don't have an opportunity as a play caller to 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.840 get them the ball. And it's also gone down thirteen 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.280 to zero. So then passing game had to come to 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.040 the forefront a little bit to try to climb back 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.720 in the game. And so the Jets were always behind 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.280 the eight ball, and every facet of the game there 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.359 behind the eight ball, whether it be behind the sticks 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.119 on defense because the Bills weren't in and in a 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.760 lot of third and long situations, uh, offensively, um, they 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.200 were behind the eight ball because of the score, um. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.119 And so there are all kinds of things where the 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.960 Jets just never could get over the hump to get 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.320 into their normal game plan and then feel comfortable with 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.959 handing the ball to Ivory doing doing the screen packages. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.320 And I fought actually missing blal Pile. That was a 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.239 little bit of it too. I mean, think about the 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.840 explosiveness of blal Pile over the last few weeks in 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.280 the type of energetic spark type plays chunk plays that 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.200 he created. UM in the passing game and then the 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.080 running game. They missed that, There's no doubt about it. Now, 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.840 that's not the reason why they lost the game, but 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.080 it's certainly hurt just a little. Yeah, Chan Gailey had 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.560 a fantastic season. So did the entire coaching staff, Tod 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.800 Bowls and Casey Rogers. I think about what this team 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:12.440 did from a takeaway perspective. Defensively, last year, this team 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.520 at thirteen takeaways tied for last in the National Football League. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.919 They came up with thirty this year, tying for third. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.200 I believe also one of the better run stuff in 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.080 units in the National Football League. So I thought they 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.840 took some steps defensively, especially in the takeaway department. How 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.680 difficult do you think this is for a player? If 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.760 you're a b. Marshall, if you're Ryan Fitzpatrick. How long 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:44.199 will this sting? And is it a little when you 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.240 look at it and say dawning to say, oh man, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.000 we gotta start this all over again in the spring. 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.679 And because like you said, everything changes. You can have 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.280 the core intact and the Jets are really happy with 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.080 that core. But with that being said, is gonna be 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.760 a lot of roster tinkering and you've butt around it. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.080 You've butt in that locker room. When the season ends, 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:10.680 no locker room is the same. Well, it's extremely difficult 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.800 and more difficult for a veteran player, because as as 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.959 a young player, you don't realize the competitive nature of 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.000 this league. You have come from mostly come from colleges 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.240 where you have been successful. You come from high school 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.960 teams where you've been successful, you've won championships. You're used 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.879 to being in postseason play and playing for championships, and 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.200 then you get to the league as a young player 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:37.880 and you don't realize how precious these playoff opportunities actually are. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.000 And as you become an older player and a veteran 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.080 in this league, it really comes to the forefront. And 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.359 that's why you see a lot of players at the 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.719 end of their careers choose teams and situations over money 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.120 because they want a chance to compete for a title. 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.080 And so for players like Brandon Marshall, for players like 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:01.520 Ryan Fitzpatrick, they see the end coming, they see a 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.800 finality coming, and not having that sweet taste of playoffs 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.760 football really bothers them. And so there's a huge sense 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.040 of urgency for those type of players, and you hope 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.880 that they carry that into the off season and try 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.399 to convey that to the young players the best that 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.240 they can to try to bring those young players up 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.640 to speed and realizing that these opportunities don't come Ask 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.160 Dan Marino made the Super Bowl is second year, never 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.000 sniffed it again, and so, uh, you know, it's a 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.280 it's a it's a unique dynamic in the NFL that 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.399 you don't experience in college or high school. Tie balls 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.000 are very direct about it. This week at a season 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.600 and the news conference, he was asked, Hey, do you 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.280 think your roster has to get younger because you have 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.680 a number of guys, of course, who played very well 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.440 this year. Where are there who are in their thirties? 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.800 And he said, I don't know about younger. I think 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.120 I know we have to get faster. What's your take 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:03.679 on the jack team speed and where they possibly could 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:09.359 use a little jolt. Yeah. I I don't always agree 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.640 with younger either. And the reason I don't is because 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:22.120 sometimes veteran savvy knowledge and experience can trump speed through 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:29.000 anticipation and preparation, and so whereas speed without control without 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:33.159 knowledge is nothing but chaos, and so is youth. And 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.880 so sometimes you can get younger, but you're not any 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.679 more efficient, You're not any more productive. You have to 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:44.159 look at the production of the player and so that's 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.919 that's starting to become a huge key in in the 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.639 league and in the NFL, because teams are getting younger. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.359 That's a fact. When I was a rookie, half our 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.359 team was over thirty. By the time I went to 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.440 the Dolphins, we had six guys thirty or over. So 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.520 that's the fact that the teams are getting younger. But 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.960 what teams really have to start looking at is who 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.200 are the players that are productives and and where is 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.600 the production coming from. And just because they can run 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.760 fast doesn't mean they can be a productive football player. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.040 So when I look at it, you always want to 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:21.160 make sure that you are keeping up to speed, no 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.919 pun intended. In your linebacking corps, that's always important that 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:28.120 your linebackers can run side to side and and and 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.560 have good lateral quickness and speed. That's important. I want 0:22:31.560 --> 0:22:34.199 to make sure that that you've got decent speed in 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.600 the secondary, not only from a cover standpoint, but from 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.600 a safety standpoint to where you can come downhill and 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.040 turn those keep those five yard games five yard games 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.679 and not allow those to become ten and fifteen yard games. 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.800 I think they have good speed inside of quickness. Obviously 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.639 in the defensive line. So defensively, that would be the 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:58.280 two areas. Offensively, I think the speed would come from, uh, 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.840 the young receivers, and I think are doing they're They're 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:02.760