WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Time To Go

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Board and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The you Know when it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Addition, as we look ahead to Sunday's season

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<v Speaker 1>opener against the New England Patriots, coming up, my one

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<v Speaker 1>on one conversation with T Higgins, who says he's on

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<v Speaker 1>a mission. In twenty twenty four, Dave Lapham joins me

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow and the latest Bengals news.

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<v Speaker 1>And in our Noha Faux segment, ESPN's Mike Reese tells

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing since a good sprinkler. For years, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been watering my lawn with a crappy plastic sprinkler. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I mention it was crappy? For example, the little knob

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<v Speaker 1>that determined the direction of the water was defective, So

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<v Speaker 1>I would start out watering my front yard, go inside

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<v Speaker 1>for a few minutes, and then discover that I was

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<v Speaker 1>watering my neighbor's driveway. Well, mister cheap finally went out

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<v Speaker 1>and purchased a Melnor brand sprinkler with a metal base,

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<v Speaker 1>and now all I want to do is water my yard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's durable, it's light, and the controls are great for

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting the water flow and direction. So here's to buying

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<v Speaker 1>a decent sprinkler. If my front yard could speak, it

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<v Speaker 1>would say it's about time. Now let's get to football.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Bengals exercise their franchise tag rights with t

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<v Speaker 1>Higgins in February, giving him a salary of nearly twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two million dollars this year, there was speculation in the

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<v Speaker 1>national media that he might skip training camp. Instead, t

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<v Speaker 1>signed the tag early and reported for duty on day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Since being selected with the first pick in the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty, the same year the Bengals drafted

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow. T has been a great Bengal, averaging more

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<v Speaker 1>than nine hundred yards per season and catching a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of touchdown passes in Super Bowl fifty six. We sat

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<v Speaker 1>down this week to discuss the upcoming season. T. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked your wide receivers coach Troy Walters about you recently.

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<v Speaker 1>He said the following. You can tell that T is

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission. Is that true? And if so, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the mission?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Mission number one is to you know, help my team

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<v Speaker 2>win games. You know, That's that's obviously mission umber one.

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<v Speaker 2>MISSI number two. You know, for my self, CAAs I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be the best version of myself that I

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<v Speaker 2>have been in the past few years. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So, uh, that's that's really my main mission. Team.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody other than the I R S knows what I

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<v Speaker 1>make for a living, and I like it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>In your case, for the last couple of years, somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>probably asked you about your contract every day. If they

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask you about it, you hear other people talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it every day. How difficult is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Is? It?

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<v Speaker 2>Uncomfortable at first, you know, before I signed the tag, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it was it was I kept

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<v Speaker 2>getting caused, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when I requested the trade, obviously there's even more calls

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<v Speaker 2>like who you think you're gonna go to? Who you

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<v Speaker 2>think go trade for you? This and that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just really just any one or out the

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<v Speaker 2>other most of the time. And then once I signed

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<v Speaker 2>the tag, you know, put me. I know, I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at it as in like puting position to know, be

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<v Speaker 2>successful in life. You know, even if ball stop after

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<v Speaker 2>this year, you know what I'm saying. So that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at it and didn't really think nothing that's

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I'm here for another year, so guarantee you

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<v Speaker 2>another year. So that's just what I'm focused on, is

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<v Speaker 2>just finishing this season out and hopefully, you know, finish

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<v Speaker 2>a strong so well.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the ways that you are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that is by having a healthy season. And let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that, because last year he had to miss five

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<v Speaker 1>games two years, two games with a broken rib, three

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<v Speaker 1>games with a sore ham string. There's not much you

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<v Speaker 1>can do about a rib, but with the hammy. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you done anything in your off season training in hopes

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<v Speaker 1>of avoiding that again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, a lot of you know, soft tissue things.

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<v Speaker 2>Just working on my mobility, you know, just just strengthening

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<v Speaker 2>my handstrings the best way I can, just so I

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<v Speaker 2>can avoid those injuries. You know, last year missed what

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<v Speaker 2>you say, five games. That's the most games I ever

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<v Speaker 2>missed ever in my entire life. And I don't look

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<v Speaker 2>I don't look forward to doing that again. I like

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<v Speaker 2>being in the field like my guys, you know, I'

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<v Speaker 2>competing with my gods, having them guys get wins. And man,

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<v Speaker 2>just looking forward to to a healthy season this year

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<v Speaker 2>because I know how big of a season this is

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hoping your quarterback has a healthy season as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He went through training camp healthy, which is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time since you've been together that he's had a normal

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. Did you see his throws get better and

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<v Speaker 1>better as camp went along, because he said early in

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<v Speaker 1>camp they're going where I want them to, but not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily spinning the way I would like them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I can agree with him on that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with him for you know, going on five

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<v Speaker 2>years now, so I know when the ball is spinning

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<v Speaker 2>from him, you know what I'm saying. So uh, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>was getting there where he wanted to go, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't you know, spinning how you wanted, like he said.

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<v Speaker 2>But now man as as camp is as we've been

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<v Speaker 2>going through camp and it's just you can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting better and better each and every day. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he finished camp out this year, so looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to what the scenes that brings for him and

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<v Speaker 2>get it going from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're chatting to t Higgins for the past few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler has been the vet in your room now at

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<v Speaker 1>age twenty five, Are you that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. We was just talking about it today, had

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<v Speaker 2>teen pictures and I looked around the room like it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I got me and t t. I has the most

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<v Speaker 2>experience in the room and it you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>wild to even think about it like that, man, because

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<v Speaker 2>for so long I've been you know, it's been TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now that I have to step up into

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<v Speaker 2>that vet role, me and Ti and obviously Jamar as well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just kind of just you know, coach you

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<v Speaker 2>guys and help them out with things like little things,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the rookies Burn and Cole, you know, just teach

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<v Speaker 2>them the little things with like things that go on

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<v Speaker 2>in the league and things like that. So it's been

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a it's been an interesting thing that came

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<v Speaker 2>about for me, but it's been it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for the past few years, we've been blessed to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Cincinnati three way jamar yourself and Tyler. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that Tyler's gone, it seems like Andre Josi Vosh has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stepped up, at least to this stage, to

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<v Speaker 1>be the logical quote unquote third receiver. What stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to you about his growth from last year to this year?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I think it's just he's way more confident,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with with coming in and out of his routes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because Andre has a ton of speed. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel like last year he didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to control it. But this year you could tell he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's really controlling that speed. No when to burst, no

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<v Speaker 2>when to you know, go eighty percent in the route,

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<v Speaker 2>no one to go one hundred percent in the route,

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<v Speaker 2>and just him breaking down as tally'sazy like me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>big guy, breaking down, getting out of routes. His releases

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<v Speaker 2>has been tremendous. It's like skyrocketed up. Like you can

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<v Speaker 2>just tell the difference between last year and this year

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<v Speaker 2>with Andre And you know, I'm looking forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 2>what he do this year. Happy for him because you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's a big role he's stepping into, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for him to see what he do.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, we got a glimpse of Jermaine Burton's big play

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<v Speaker 1>potential in the preseason. What would your advice to him

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<v Speaker 1>be for his rookie year?

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<v Speaker 2>Head down, lock in and play your game. Don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about the outside. I know that's what people say. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna have people criticize you, gonna people

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<v Speaker 2>cheer for you. Man, just even when people to cheer

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<v Speaker 2>for you. But don't don't get your head to high

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<v Speaker 2>with things like that. You know, Just go in and

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<v Speaker 2>and just be who you are at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day and lock in and help the team win.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing you see when you walk into the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room this week is a mannequin with the new

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<v Speaker 1>all orange uniform on it and it's your number on

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<v Speaker 1>that mannequin, Number one. What do you think of the look?

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<v Speaker 1>Number two? Any meaning to you that they chose your

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<v Speaker 1>jersey to be the one that everybody sees when they

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<v Speaker 1>walk in this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, number one jerseys look good, man. I love orangetan.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the orange and orange. But the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>behind my jersey's being on there was if you go

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Donnican, it's a black side and a

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<v Speaker 2>white side, So black black cleak's black gloves or white

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<v Speaker 2>cleat's white gloves. You know, we wanted to see through

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<v Speaker 2>the guys in the locker room which side looks better

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<v Speaker 2>with the uniform saying I said black. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>guys say white. But you'll see me with the black

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<v Speaker 2>accessories on.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting a sneak peek by looking at that manneic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get to see what side looks better. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to go back in there and you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me which side looks better than.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me know, all right, I will give you my

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<v Speaker 1>review momentarily. Final thing. If this is it in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly there's a very strong possibility that that could

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<v Speaker 1>be the case, how do you want this season to

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<v Speaker 1>go for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Personally, I just want to go out with a bang man,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not necessarily. I don't want to disappoint you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Cimsey fans, because I grew a love for

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<v Speaker 2>these fans here. Man, It's it's like no other man.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it here. But no, just go out with

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<v Speaker 2>a bang man and make these make the city proud,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. That's that's my whole thing. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to make the city proud, no matter if we win

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<v Speaker 2>or lose, I just want to go out and make

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<v Speaker 2>the city proude. No matter what. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go I want to leave in they want me to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I want that. That's never

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<v Speaker 2>That's never a good feeling. But yeah, man, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I just want to make make

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<v Speaker 2>the city proud, make the organization proud. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's been a drink on true man, playing for

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite team that I grew up watching for years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean this has been a drink on true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, we look forward to seeing you go out and

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<v Speaker 1>do your thing this year. Thanks for the time, best

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<v Speaker 1>of Lucky, I appreciate it. Now More on tea with

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<v Speaker 1>my broadcast partner Dave Lappham. All right, lap, I did

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<v Speaker 1>walk back into the locker room after that interview and

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<v Speaker 1>check out the mannican. He chose wisely. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>black accessories with the all orange uniform look better than

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<v Speaker 1>the white.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has contract like contract. All right, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his expectations and hopes for having a big season

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<v Speaker 1>back to back one thousand yards three years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago, and then last year due to the injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't quite get to seven hundred yards, although he did

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<v Speaker 1>have a career high yards per catch average more than

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yards per catch. Does he look like a man

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission to you?

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<v Speaker 3>He does? I mean just today talk to him on

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<v Speaker 3>the practice field and I said, man, you had a

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<v Speaker 3>good camp tea? Do you think so? I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 3>so humble, you know, I mean he really is. He's

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<v Speaker 3>he's a great guy man and just an unbelievable teammate.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, you know, I feel like I could

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<v Speaker 3>have done some things better and and I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, that's what makes uh, you know, the good ones,

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<v Speaker 3>great tea, and you're gonna you're you're a great player,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's never satisfied. That's the thing, you know, It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I've arrived, I'm satisfied. But I mean I thought he had.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a very solid camp. I mean he high

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<v Speaker 3>pointed everything. With that big body and long arms that

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<v Speaker 3>he has, he can uh, he's I think he's deceptive

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<v Speaker 3>with his with his speed, and like he talked about Yosie,

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<v Speaker 3>he's starting to figure out okay in this phase of

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<v Speaker 3>the route, but roke it down to eighty here and

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden, when you burst to one hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're like wow, they can't backpedal and flip

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<v Speaker 3>their hips fast enough. And that change of speed stuff

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<v Speaker 3>is very very important in your route running. And he's

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<v Speaker 3>got all that down. I think he's one hell of

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<v Speaker 3>a player, and the community loves him, and he loves

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<v Speaker 3>the community. I mean, there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 3>are pointing in the right direction for t Higgins to

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<v Speaker 3>go out there and light it up, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he very easily could.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's Tea's running mate and good friend Jamar Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar hasn't practiced much during camp as contract negotiations have

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<v Speaker 1>been going on, but he was on the field Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday, which is obviously encouraging with the season opener

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<v Speaker 1>just a few days away. So how did he look?

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<v Speaker 1>Here was Joe Burrow after Wednesday's practice.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw him out there today. You know, he looks fast, strong,

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<v Speaker 5>like he always does. No, I know he's been doing

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<v Speaker 5>what he needs to do to stay ready if he

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<v Speaker 5>needs to be ready. So I'm confident that if he

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<v Speaker 5>does go out there on Sunday, then he'll be the

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<v Speaker 5>jama we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that might be true in limited doses. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine that Jamar Chase would be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and give the Bengals the kind of volume

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of snaps that were accustomed to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, he is somebody that runs through contact

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<v Speaker 3>and he is a very strong runner after the reception

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<v Speaker 3>of the football. But let's face it, when you're in

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<v Speaker 3>training camp and you've gone through the grind of practices

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<v Speaker 3>that they had this year at training camp, or you haven't,

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<v Speaker 3>I should say, and you haven't been part of the

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<v Speaker 3>joint practices, and those were pretty intense. We saw how

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<v Speaker 3>physical those were, all those routes that weren't run And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying he wasn't running. He's probably run a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of routes as well, but not an equipment, not

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<v Speaker 3>with defensive backs trying to reroute him and everything that

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<v Speaker 3>goes along with that. So we've always talked about there's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, football conditioning, and it's different. It definitely is.

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<v Speaker 3>And the number of routes that he would have he's

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<v Speaker 3>missed miles of route running, not consecutively, but you add

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<v Speaker 3>up all the routes and the reps that you know

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<v Speaker 3>he would have taken. It's in football conditioning. So you

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<v Speaker 3>have to make sure that you don't overdo it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with him in that first game and again, hopefully the

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals have the ball for a ton of plays, Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>they have twenty twenty five more snaps than the Patriots do,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that would be a good problem to have. Geez,

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<v Speaker 3>how many do we put Jamar out there for? Better

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<v Speaker 3>not be twenty twenty twenty five plays less than the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>That would not be a good situation, and Jamar would

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<v Speaker 3>probably be out there for a lot of those because

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals would be trying to you know, probably win

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<v Speaker 3>a football game at that point. If you're if you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the hole by twenty twenty five snaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually that's not a good sign. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>all played by year, you know. I think see how

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<v Speaker 3>he responds. You know, he's he's going to be in

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<v Speaker 3>practice for the first time today and tomorrow and he'll have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a Friday situational practice. He'll have Saturday walkthrough

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<v Speaker 3>and that won't be much. So it will be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to see, you know, how many snaps Jamar Chase does

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<v Speaker 3>take against the New England Patriots. I want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>will he be on a pitch count as such or

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<v Speaker 3>will it be something that will be decided during the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the flow of the game. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just how many how many reps have you taken, how

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<v Speaker 3>much rest have you gotten between drives? All all those

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<v Speaker 3>things I think will play a little bit of a factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they need much out of Jamar Chase to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the New England Patriots in Week one?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think he makes things so different, you know, offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>just just the fact that if he's out there just

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<v Speaker 3>being a threat that he is is significant. I think theoretically,

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<v Speaker 3>would they need Jamar Chase to take every offensive snap

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<v Speaker 3>to beat the Patriots. I would hope not. I would

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<v Speaker 3>hope that wouldn't be the case. But I do think

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<v Speaker 3>that I would like to see him take a reasonable

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<v Speaker 3>number of snaps because the next game is the son

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<v Speaker 3>of a gun, there you go. And I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, you need him. And and he's the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of guy. He's different. I mean, he's even more different

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<v Speaker 3>than most football players. He is a genetic marvel, There's

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt. I mean, he's he's definitely, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>unique human being in terms of his physical makeup. And

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<v Speaker 3>I would think, you know, if he got quite a

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<v Speaker 3>few snaps under his belt against the Patriots, that would

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<v Speaker 3>bode well for him to participate pretty fully, if not

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<v Speaker 3>totally fully against the Kansas City Chiefs. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots might be a ramp up game for him,

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<v Speaker 3>but I hope he ramps up quickly, as do we all.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals looking to win their season open for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in three years. They've only done it once

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<v Speaker 1>in Zach Taylor's five year tenure. That was a home

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Vikings in overtime a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The Super Bowl years had turned out, but in fairness

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<v Speaker 1>to Zach, it hasn't all been his fault. Obviously, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow's status the last couple of years was a major

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<v Speaker 1>reason why the Bengals started slowly. He was a shell

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<v Speaker 1>of himself in Week one each of the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>first because of the g app and decomy two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and then because of the calf injury last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you've got a quarterback who isn't even close

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<v Speaker 1>to being himself, it's hard to win. Having said all that,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor has changed things a little bit in training

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<v Speaker 1>camp this year and hopes of getting off to a

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<v Speaker 1>faster start, And he said today he thinks his team

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<v Speaker 1>is good to go for Week one.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a great training camp. This team's ready to go.

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<v Speaker 6>We're ready to play. You know. I'm happy we've got

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<v Speaker 6>these last three days of work to get in there.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think this team's really chomping up a bit

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<v Speaker 6>to go out there and play against a real opponent

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<v Speaker 6>in a real game. We're as prepared as we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be, and so I'm just excited watching these guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Let it lose your pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Training camp wasn't the Gulag. It wasn't like when you

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<v Speaker 1>played lap with you know, two practices a day in pads,

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<v Speaker 1>full contact, but it was tougher, more challenging. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of dual practices obviously with the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>in the Indianapolis Colts where it's very physical and long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think they are more battle tested than they've been.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's no doubt that Joe Borrow got more throws

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<v Speaker 3>in this training camp for the reasons you just talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Their practices on a daily basis were a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>situational football and you know, two minute drill backed up

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<v Speaker 3>things of that nature. He got a lot of significant

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<v Speaker 3>reps and he was very very accurate with the football.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a lot of times the ball wasn't in

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<v Speaker 3>the ground very much. And it brought me back to

0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, early years man Kenny Anderson throwing the football.

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<v Speaker 3>When is this guy gonna have an incompletion? And it's

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<v Speaker 3>just remarkable how how these guys complete passes at such

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<v Speaker 3>a high high percent eighty percent plus during the course

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<v Speaker 3>of training camp, and you know, their action in preseason

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<v Speaker 3>and these joint practices. I thought Joe was very, very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he had an outstanding training camp. I really

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<v Speaker 3>did and I think he's probably feels like he's more

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<v Speaker 3>ready than he's ever been to start an NFL season,

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<v Speaker 3>I think rightfully, so he should feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So how is Joe Burrow feeling heading into Sunday season

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<v Speaker 1>opener against the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel great. This is the best I felt going

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<v Speaker 5>into week one, you know, since my rookie season. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's exciting for me to be able to get these

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<v Speaker 5>reps in training camp and you know, bank all those

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<v Speaker 5>and continue to get better throughout this time as opposed

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<v Speaker 5>to just trying to get back to baseline.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm remembering last year's opener. What a miserable day that was.

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<v Speaker 1>The weather sucked in Cleveland. Yep, Joe looked terrible. He

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<v Speaker 1>was the statue of liberty back there. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be fun to see a much more normal looking Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow in action this week.

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<v Speaker 3>It will and Joe Burrow on the injury report, people

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be like, oh my gosh, it's right

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<v Speaker 3>wrist is on the injury report. Full participation, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, honestly, I'm not sure that Joe Burrow officially

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<v Speaker 3>is out of every phase of rehab. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 3>still technically a rehab patient as such from from the injury.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think by NFL rule, he has to be

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<v Speaker 3>put on the injury report if he's getting that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, treatment from trainers. So it's it's everybody

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like, oh my gosh, Joe Burrow, you

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<v Speaker 3>know on the injury report. I mean, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously is it perfect, No, it's not. But is it

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<v Speaker 3>is he fully cleared to play? Hell? Yeah, He's been

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<v Speaker 3>fully cleared to practice forever and he's fully cleared to play.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I would not I would not be wang

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<v Speaker 3>chunged as such about Joe Burrow being on the injury

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<v Speaker 3>report with the right wrist, because his participation is full.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen him make every type of throw in training camp, deep, intermediate, tight, wind,

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 1>tight windows, any throw he has to make, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>him make at some point during camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely and and uh and with velocity and pinpoint accuracy.

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean he he threw the ball well not again,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in your interview with t in the beginning, you know,

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't happy with how it was was going, but

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the spin on the football, but that

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<v Speaker 3>came back quickly, you know, And uh, you have to.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to maybe make a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 3>adjustment in your grip and the way you release it

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.720
<v Speaker 3>and whatever it might be. That's that's what you do

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<v Speaker 3>that when you have injuries, you have to compensate in

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<v Speaker 3>some way, shape or form to be able to still

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<v Speaker 3>perform an extremely high level with with that particular injury,

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be. And I mean professional athletes have

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<v Speaker 3>to do it all the time in every sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. For the last four years, the Bengals have had

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<v Speaker 1>the best trio of wide receivers in the NFL, Jamar

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Chase T. Higgins and Tyler Boyd, the so called Cincinnati

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 1>three way. Now, Boyd is a member of the Tennessee Titans,

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and the guy in line to take over that spot

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<v Speaker 1>at least to begin the season is the second year

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 1>pro out of Princeton Andre yo Si Vash. Earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked offensive cordner Dan Pitcher if it is fair

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<v Speaker 1>to call Yo see Vash Tyler Boyd's primary replacement. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think that qualifying word is important, and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, primary can mean fifty percent, you know, it

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<v Speaker 7>can mean nine. I don't know where that's going to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I and maybe.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe that word is not appropriate two weeks from now.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know, but I think he's done enough to

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<v Speaker 7>warrant opportunity as as the primary one of our options

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of fill that void left by Tyler. But

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<v Speaker 7>there's other players that have that have definitely shown that

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<v Speaker 7>they deserve opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>As well, and we intend to use all those guys

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<v Speaker 1>lapping The Bengals drafted Andrea Yosi Vash last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody envisioned him as a slot receiver. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if he developed the long term replacement on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>for t Higgins, But here he is is Tyler Boyd's replacement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and honestly a tip of the cap to

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Walters. I mean he has everybody learning every position interchangeable.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know you've seen Jamar Chase in the slot

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<v Speaker 3>with tremendous results. Yo, Si, I think is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a darn good slot receiver. I think he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>a big, strong, fast. I mean he's gotten bigger and stronger.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all been good weight. It hasn't affected his speed.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he might even be a half a step faster.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he is, he is really done a heck

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<v Speaker 3>of a job. I think he and Joe Burrow on

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<v Speaker 3>the offensive side of the football have done more to

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<v Speaker 3>improve their bodies in the offseason than anybody probably. And

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<v Speaker 3>and I know a lot of the offensive lineman Orlando

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<v Speaker 3>Brown worked hard, He redid his Alex Kappa, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really really worked hard. I mean noticeable differences in their bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the thing that has encouraged me

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<v Speaker 3>about this football team. It didn't start, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>training camp and OTAs. It started in the off season

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready for OTAs in training camp. And Yosi is

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<v Speaker 3>one of those guys that put a lot of time

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<v Speaker 3>and effort into improving his physicality. He's always been smart,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's a smart football player, but he's he's advanced.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's he's definitely you know, as sending as

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<v Speaker 3>a football player, there's no question in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one on defense as well. Zach Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Zach Carter is.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge, buff man. He is, He's a big boy.

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<v Speaker 4>He is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done and quietly, you know, I mean, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of no big fanfare with any of this. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>guys decided, Okay, Joey Joey. Let's say, obviously, the Bengals

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 3>strength and conditioning coach, here's what I want to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put together a program to get it done

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<v Speaker 3>with respected diet and weight training and conditioning and everything

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 3>goes along with it. And I'm telling you this is

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<v Speaker 3>the off season is when you lay the foundation to

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<v Speaker 3>have a great year, and a lot of guys worked

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<v Speaker 3>really hard to lay some good bricks to that foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I think andre Yosi Vosh is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a big year as the so called third receiver alongside

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase and t Higgins. Tyler Boyd averaged sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>catches for seven hundred and seventy five yards over the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years. I would not be the least bit

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if andre puts up similar numbers. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>week's know the faux segment. ESPN's Mike Reese has been

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Patriots for various news outlets for roughly twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years, and he joined Lapping Me this week on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Game Plan Show. I started our conversation by

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<v Speaker 1>asking Mike just how different the vibe in New England

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<v Speaker 1>is now that Bill Belichick is gone and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old Girod Mayo is the head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Dan and Dave, it's great to be with you,

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to the trip out, you know, Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 4>I would say the difference is extreme. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's probably the short the short answer. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>just try to give you like two examples to just

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 4>you know that reflect it. The first is one of

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<v Speaker 4>their players started a podcast this week and the first

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 4>guest or was Gerrod Mayo.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought, and I thought to myself, would Bill Belichick ever

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<v Speaker 4>be a podcast guest for one of his players? So

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 4>so that you know, but I and the reason I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it, guys is I think it's just reflect of

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<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons they made the change, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just that they felt like they're so appreciative and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about ownership, the Craft family of what Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 4>did for their franchise, just the feeling of maybe it

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 4>had just run its course, you know, and that the

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<v Speaker 4>systems of the in the league have changed, where the

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<v Speaker 4>players coming in have changed, and they were looking for

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<v Speaker 4>a leader that connected with the players before they really

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 4>demanded from the players. And I think I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if I made sense with that example, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's reflective of the change. And you could go on

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<v Speaker 4>and on, but hopefully that sort of gives a little

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<v Speaker 4>flavor to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, do you sense a youthful energy? I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>GM's forty two, the head coach is thirty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 3>and any new ideas that you've noticed. Is there a

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<v Speaker 3>collaboration more so than a dictatorship as such? What's it

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<v Speaker 3>like that way?

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's fair Dave to say, like, definitely

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<v Speaker 4>more like traditional model, like you have the front office

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 4>and you have the coaching staff, and the front office

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 4>provides the players for the coaching staff. Bill Belichick was

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<v Speaker 4>sort of everything right. And that's not to diminish what

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<v Speaker 4>the personnel people like Scott Pioli and Nick Cassio did,

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<v Speaker 4>because they did a lot, but I always felt like

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately the buck stopped with Bill. This is much more

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<v Speaker 4>traditional model, And I think in terms of like, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't say like youthful because honestly, like the offensive coordinator

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Alex van Pelt to me is a great story. I

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 4>know you guys are familiar with him from his time

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<v Speaker 4>with the Bengals. Like he's fifty four and he's getting

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 4>his first shot to on a you know, call the

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<v Speaker 4>plays and run the show. So it's not like youthful

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<v Speaker 4>as much as it is like former players connecting with

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<v Speaker 4>the current players, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ike Grease covers the Patriots for ESPN. Mike, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>reading your stuff leading up to the game. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>reading the Boston Globe as well. It seems like offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is a major concern for the Patriots going into

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<v Speaker 1>the season. What's the status of that group, both in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of talent and also in terms of health.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, major concern. I think anyone that watched that final

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 4>preseason game of the NFL preseason on Sunday Night on

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 4>NBC nationally televised, they got called for four penalties where

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 4>they couldn't align properly. Yeah, you know, and so that

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 4>starts with that, Like fundamentally, you figure they're going to

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 4>get that part cleaned up if they If they don't,

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 4>they're in for a long, long season health wise. They're

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 4>starting left tackle the Darien Lowe, who whether that's even

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<v Speaker 4>good enough before we get to the health is a

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<v Speaker 4>whole other conversation. He's been limited with uh, you know,

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 4>chest oblique type injury. I'm sensing he won't be ready

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<v Speaker 4>to go Sunday, but we'll see. And then they're left

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 4>guard the starter city So a second year player, he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't practice today, he's been out for the last week

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<v Speaker 4>or so. I'd be surprised if he plays. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>the whole left side, you know, of the line that

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 4>they're going down to already opening week, second layer. And

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<v Speaker 4>when I look at the Bengals, to me, one of

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 4>the strength of the defense looks like the ends. So

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that that looks to me like a favorable

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 4>matchup for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in total concert with you, Mike. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that Hendrickson and Hubbard it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a tough matchup with the offensive line. We

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>talked about alex Van Pelt, you know, coming on board

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 3>first time calling the shots offensive coordinator. He and Jacoby

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<v Speaker 3>Brissett have that common denominator. The twenty two season in

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland eleven starts together. Was that a big reason. Was

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<v Speaker 3>that a factor in bringing Alex van Pelt, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he and Jacoby Brissett had a prior relationship that

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<v Speaker 3>was a good one.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 4>So it was a huge factor in them signing per

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<v Speaker 4>set when they did, because they had hired Van Pelt

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 4>before that, and I think so they knew they were

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<v Speaker 4>going to run that system, that West Coast system, and

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 4>then they get the free agency gave and they're like,

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 4>let's get the veteran that's run it, that we know

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 4>is going to be a great mentor to whatever quarterback

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 4>we draft, and we'll see where that leads. And I

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 4>think that's worked out exactly the way they thought it would,

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and they want to give May the number three overall

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<v Speaker 4>pick a little more time. And they feel like specifically

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Alex van Pelt and their quarterbacks coach TC McCartney, who

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<v Speaker 4>is with the Browns as well. They love Jacoby Brissett.

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think he had six in just six

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 4>interceptions and those eleven starts. You know, coaches love don't

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 4>turn it over, give us a chance, yep. And I

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 4>think that's what they hope he'll do for them, you know,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 4>until whenever Drake May ultimately takes over.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Drake May look?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, this was like the horse race where the

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 4>horse is slow getting out of the gate and you're

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 4>thinking to yourself, where what is this horse gonna contend?

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, and then all of a sudden they

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<v Speaker 4>come down the home stretch and Jacoby brissets almost that

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, he's almost at whatever the finish line

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 4>would be in a horse race, and Drake May comes

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<v Speaker 4>charging on the outside and it makes it like closer

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 4>than you would have ever thought it would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>by the end of camp. So he sort of turned

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 4>it on. Call it like the last week and a

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 4>half two weeks of preseason training camp, and Gerrod Mayo

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<v Speaker 4>is on record the head coach as saying that change

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 4>happened when he stopped deferring to Jacoby Brissett as the

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 4>veteran and guys, my take on it, just being around

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 4>the team is like, this is a a plus kid,

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.959
<v Speaker 4>an individual. Drake May just turned twenty two, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>within the last week, and I think he was so

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 4>concerned with fitting in and doing the right thing. So

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 4>his heart, his intention is in the right place, but

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 4>he almost took it too far to like acquiesce to Jacoby,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 4>and I think Girod Mayo was like, let's get this

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>guy competing like we want to. We want him to know, like, hey,

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 4>this is out there for you, go get it. And

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 4>I think once he did that, you know, the performance

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 4>took off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensively, Mike. I mean, they they're obviously, I mean they've

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 3>been phenomenal for the last five years. They've been a

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 3>top ten defense and all of those years, Girod Mayo

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>was a big part of that, and so was the

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>newly named defensive coordinator DeMarcus Covington. Is it Bentley's show?

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Does he run the show? I mean, it looks like

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 3>they only gave up a little over ninety three yards

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 3>a game rushing last year in three point three a carry,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>which is outstanding. I mean, that's like lowest allowed since

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 3>the merger of nineteen seventy for crying out loud. Is

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Bentley that kind of guy?

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 4>So this is interesting, Dave. So I'm gonna get. I'm

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna start on a little bit of why I think

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 4>it might not continue, and then why it might continue.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 4>So I think, first of all, you don't have Bill

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Belichick anymore. And Belichick didn't coordinate the defense, but I

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>always felt like he was the guy that said, this

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 4>is how we need to play to win the game

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 4>this week. And I it's my belief that no one

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 4>was better at him than doing that. Like you'd hear

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 4>people say, he knew us our team almost as much

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 4>as well as we knew ourselves. It's not better, Dave,

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 4>They don't. They don't have it anymore. So start with that.

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>They traded Matthew Judan, their best pass rusher, which is

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.240
<v Speaker 4>a whole other story, you know, and that gets into

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 4>where they are right now and building and and and contracts.

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 4>And they lost Christian Barmore, who they felt was going

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 4>to be a budding star at defensive tackle when he

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 4>was diagnosed with blood clots in the preseason. So that's

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 4>to me, that's three hits before you've played your first game.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't mean they can't be good again, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think they will be good again, but I just sort

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<v Speaker 4>of want to acknowledge, like those those to me are

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<v Speaker 4>more than just like small dings. Those are big hits

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<v Speaker 4>that they're taking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>My final question from me. Patriots won four games last year,

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted a quarterback third overall, they're slated to have

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<v Speaker 1>the most cap room of any team in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>next year, so it kind of feels like a rebuilding year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably a fair statement. But Lapp grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in New England. I lived there for several years

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing the Patucket Red Sox games. Boston

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<v Speaker 1>fans are not known for their patients. How are they

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<v Speaker 1>taking the notion of this Patriot team that was the

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<v Speaker 1>team of the decade really facing an uphill climb.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so interesting. I turn on the local sports talk

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<v Speaker 4>radio today, like the biggest drive time show, and the

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<v Speaker 4>host is just killing them like you can't be the

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<v Speaker 4>New England Patriots and say that you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 4>year that you just aren't competitive. And so that's the

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<v Speaker 4>tenor to give you a feel for like what sports

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<v Speaker 4>radio is like. But my sense, to be honest guys,

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<v Speaker 4>talking to fan season ticket members is there's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of an understanding that as appreciative as everyone was

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<v Speaker 4>for what Bill Belichick the Super Bowls that the last

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<v Speaker 4>few years have been tough, you know, the a talent drain,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, decisions on offense that just really didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 4>That that there's almost an acknowledgment like the team that

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<v Speaker 4>this regime is taking over was not stocked like it

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<v Speaker 4>and it's gonna take some time. And I think fans

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<v Speaker 4>that have been around almost have used that first year

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<v Speaker 4>that Bill Parcells came in in ninety three when they

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<v Speaker 4>drafted Drew Bledsoe. You know, they were five and eleven

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<v Speaker 4>that year, but by the end of the year, people

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<v Speaker 4>were pumped, yeah, because they felt like a foundation had

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 4>been created. And I think that's what the longtime fans,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe, sort of have looked at and said that

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<v Speaker 4>would make this a successful year.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you an all important third phase question, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>and appreciate your time as always, you're so kind carving

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<v Speaker 3>all this time. Special teams Jeremy Springer's group the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>are to the NFL lead since twenty fourteen with twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two block kicks, ten field goals, blocked, three extra points,

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<v Speaker 3>nine punts. I mean, are they going to be as

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive on special teams as they have been and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even more so a special special teams in area where

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<v Speaker 3>they say, you know, we got to win this phase.

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<v Speaker 1>So well said.

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<v Speaker 4>And first of all, I could talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 4>all night. You're gonna you're gonna be the one to

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<v Speaker 4>get me up the phone. I love tucking football. Have

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are the bat like? I love the way

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<v Speaker 4>you talk about it. So here's what to know about

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<v Speaker 4>Patriots special teams. First of all, yes to what you said.

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<v Speaker 4>They need bonus points right because they're still putting together

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<v Speaker 4>offensive stuff right. And Marcus Jones was a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two All Pro as a punt returner, like he was

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<v Speaker 4>the guy THEO. He was a rookie that year. People

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<v Speaker 4>forget about him because he got hurt early last year.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's gonna you're gonna see him Sunday returning punts,

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<v Speaker 4>probably returning kickoffs. So they're they're hoping that they can

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<v Speaker 4>be very explosive in that face of the game. Their

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<v Speaker 4>coordinator is his name is Jeremy Springer. He's a first

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<v Speaker 4>time coordinator, came from the Rams and there. Their assistant

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<v Speaker 4>is Tom Quinn, who's a real veteran special teams coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Really came up through the Giants with Tom Coughlin, spent

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<v Speaker 4>double digit years with the Giants, So sort of a

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<v Speaker 4>combination of like new blood and energy with Jeremy Springer

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<v Speaker 4>and the old sage coach with Tom Quinn. And and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll actually they have a third coach, Kobe Tippett, the

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<v Speaker 4>son of Pro Football Hall of Famer, So three layers

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<v Speaker 4>on the special teams coaching. So honestly, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how aggressive they'll be, but I just sort of

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<v Speaker 4>try to give you because I think that there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of unknown for everyone with special teams this year

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<v Speaker 4>with the new rules. But that's sort of the snapshot

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like fascinated to see how it unfolds. Starting Sunday,

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<v Speaker 4>out your way thanks.

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