1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Board and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The you Know when it's time 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: to go. Addition, as we look ahead to Sunday's season 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: opener against the New England Patriots, coming up, my one 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: on one conversation with T Higgins, who says he's on 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a mission. In twenty twenty four, Dave Lapham joins me 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: to discuss Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow and the latest Bengals news. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: And in our Noha Faux segment, ESPN's Mike Reese tells 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: us how the Patriots are looking as they begin life 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: without Belichick. 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For years, I've 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: been watering my lawn with a crappy plastic sprinkler. Did 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I mention it was crappy? For example, the little knob 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: that determined the direction of the water was defective, So 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: I would start out watering my front yard, go inside 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: for a few minutes, and then discover that I was 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: watering my neighbor's driveway. Well, mister cheap finally went out 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: and purchased a Melnor brand sprinkler with a metal base, 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and now all I want to do is water my yard. 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: It's durable, it's light, and the controls are great for 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: adjusting the water flow and direction. So here's to buying 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: a decent sprinkler. If my front yard could speak, it 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: would say it's about time. Now let's get to football. 32 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: When the Bengals exercise their franchise tag rights with t 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Higgins in February, giving him a salary of nearly twenty 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: two million dollars this year, there was speculation in the 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: national media that he might skip training camp. Instead, t 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: signed the tag early and reported for duty on day one. 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Since being selected with the first pick in the second round, 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty, the same year the Bengals drafted 39 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. T has been a great Bengal, averaging more 40 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: than nine hundred yards per season and catching a pair 41 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: of touchdown passes in Super Bowl fifty six. We sat 42 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: down this week to discuss the upcoming season. T. I 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: asked your wide receivers coach Troy Walters about you recently. 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: He said the following. You can tell that T is 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: on a mission. Is that true? And if so, what 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: is the mission? 47 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Uh? 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man. 49 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Mission number one is to you know, help my team 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: win games. You know, That's that's obviously mission umber one. 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: MISSI number two. You know, for my self, CAAs I 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: want to be the best version of myself that I 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: have been in the past few years. You know what 54 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So, uh, that's that's really my main mission. Team. 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Nobody other than the I R S knows what I 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: make for a living, and I like it that way. 57 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: In your case, for the last couple of years, somebody's 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: probably asked you about your contract every day. If they 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: don't ask you about it, you hear other people talking 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: about it every day. How difficult is that? 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: Is? It? 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable at first, you know, before I signed the tag, Yeah, 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it was it was I kept 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: getting caused, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do, 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: You're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. And then 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: when I requested the trade, obviously there's even more calls 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: like who you think you're gonna go to? Who you 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: think go trade for you? This and that. But you know, 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: it was just really just any one or out the 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: other most of the time. And then once I signed 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: the tag, you know, put me. I know, I looked 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: at it as in like puting position to know, be 73 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: successful in life. You know, even if ball stop after 74 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: this year, you know what I'm saying. So that's how 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: I looked at it and didn't really think nothing that's 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: of it. I'm here for another year, so guarantee you 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: another year. So that's just what I'm focused on, is 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: just finishing this season out and hopefully, you know, finish 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: a strong so well. 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: One of the ways that you are going to do 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: that is by having a healthy season. And let's talk 82 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: about that, because last year he had to miss five 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: games two years, two games with a broken rib, three 84 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: games with a sore ham string. There's not much you 85 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: can do about a rib, but with the hammy. Have 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: you done anything in your off season training in hopes 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: of avoiding that again? 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, a lot of you know, soft tissue things. 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: Just working on my mobility, you know, just just strengthening 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: my handstrings the best way I can, just so I 91 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: can avoid those injuries. You know, last year missed what 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: you say, five games. That's the most games I ever 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: missed ever in my entire life. And I don't look 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: I don't look forward to doing that again. I like 95 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: being in the field like my guys, you know, I' 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: competing with my gods, having them guys get wins. And man, 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: just looking forward to to a healthy season this year 98 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: because I know how big of a season this is 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: for me. 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: You're hoping your quarterback has a healthy season as well. 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: He went through training camp healthy, which is the first 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: time since you've been together that he's had a normal 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: training camp. Did you see his throws get better and 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: better as camp went along, because he said early in 105 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: camp they're going where I want them to, but not 106 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: necessarily spinning the way I would like them to. 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can agree with him on that, you know, 108 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: I've been with him for you know, going on five 109 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: years now, so I know when the ball is spinning 110 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 2: from him, you know what I'm saying. So uh, definitely 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: was getting there where he wanted to go, but it 112 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: just wasn't you know, spinning how you wanted, like he said. 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: But now man as as camp is as we've been 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: going through camp and it's just you can see it. 115 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: He's getting better and better each and every day. And 116 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, he finished camp out this year, so looking 117 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: forward to what the scenes that brings for him and 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: get it going from there. 119 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're chatting to t Higgins for the past few years. 120 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Tyler has been the vet in your room now at 121 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: age twenty five, Are you that guy? 122 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: It's crazy. We was just talking about it today, had 123 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: teen pictures and I looked around the room like it's crazy. 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: I got me and t t. I has the most 125 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: experience in the room and it you know, it's it's 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: wild to even think about it like that, man, because 127 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 2: for so long I've been you know, it's been TV, 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: and so now that I have to step up into 129 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: that vet role, me and Ti and obviously Jamar as well, 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, just kind of just you know, coach you 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: guys and help them out with things like little things, 132 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: especially the rookies Burn and Cole, you know, just teach 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: them the little things with like things that go on 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: in the league and things like that. So it's been 135 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: it's been a it's been an interesting thing that came 136 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: about for me, but it's been it's been fun. 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the past few years, we've been blessed to 138 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: watch the Cincinnati three way jamar yourself and Tyler. Now 139 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: that Tyler's gone, it seems like Andre Josi Vosh has 140 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: kind of stepped up, at least to this stage, to 141 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: be the logical quote unquote third receiver. What stood out 142 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: to you about his growth from last year to this year? 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: To me, I think it's just he's way more confident, 144 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, with with coming in and out of his routes. 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: You know, because Andre has a ton of speed. You know, 146 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like last year he didn't know how 147 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: to control it. But this year you could tell he's 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: he's really controlling that speed. No when to burst, no 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: when to you know, go eighty percent in the route, 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: no one to go one hundred percent in the route, 151 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: and just him breaking down as tally'sazy like me, you know, 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: big guy, breaking down, getting out of routes. His releases 153 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: has been tremendous. It's like skyrocketed up. Like you can 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: just tell the difference between last year and this year 155 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: with Andre And you know, I'm looking forward to seeing 156 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: what he do this year. Happy for him because you 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: know it's a big role he's stepping into, and you know, 158 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm happy for him to see what he do. 159 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Man, we got a glimpse of Jermaine Burton's big play 160 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: potential in the preseason. What would your advice to him 161 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: be for his rookie year? 162 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: Head down, lock in and play your game. Don't worry 163 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: about the outside. I know that's what people say. You know, 164 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna have people criticize you, gonna people 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: cheer for you. Man, just even when people to cheer 166 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: for you. But don't don't get your head to high 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: with things like that. You know, Just go in and 168 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: and just be who you are at the end of 169 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: the day and lock in and help the team win. 170 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: The first thing you see when you walk into the 171 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: locker room this week is a mannequin with the new 172 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: all orange uniform on it and it's your number on 173 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that mannequin, Number one. What do you think of the look? 174 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: Number two? Any meaning to you that they chose your 175 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: jersey to be the one that everybody sees when they 176 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: walk in this week? 177 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, number one jerseys look good, man. I love orangetan. 178 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: I love the orange and orange. But the whole thing 179 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: behind my jersey's being on there was if you go 180 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: look at the Donnican, it's a black side and a 181 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: white side, So black black cleak's black gloves or white 182 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: cleat's white gloves. You know, we wanted to see through 183 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: the guys in the locker room which side looks better 184 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: with the uniform saying I said black. A lot of 185 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: guys say white. But you'll see me with the black 186 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: accessories on. 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: So we're getting a sneak peek by looking at that manneic. 188 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to see what side looks better. So 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: I want you to go back in there and you 190 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: tell me which side looks better than. 191 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: Let me know, all right, I will give you my 192 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: review momentarily. Final thing. If this is it in Cincinnati, 193 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: and certainly there's a very strong possibility that that could 194 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: be the case, how do you want this season to 195 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: go for you. 196 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: Personally, I just want to go out with a bang man, 197 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily. I don't want to disappoint you know, 198 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: obviously the Cimsey fans, because I grew a love for 199 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: these fans here. Man, It's it's like no other man. 200 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: I love it here. But no, just go out with 201 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: a bang man and make these make the city proud, 202 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: you know. That's that's my whole thing. I just want 203 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: to make the city proud, no matter if we win 204 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: or lose, I just want to go out and make 205 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: the city proude. No matter what. I don't want to 206 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: go I want to leave in they want me to leave. 207 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I want that. That's never 208 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: That's never a good feeling. But yeah, man, at the 209 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: end of the day, I just want to make make 210 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: the city proud, make the organization proud. Yeah, I mean, 211 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: it's it's been a drink on true man, playing for 212 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: my favorite team that I grew up watching for years. 213 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: So I mean this has been a drink on true. 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Sure, we look forward to seeing you go out and 215 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: do your thing this year. Thanks for the time, best 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: of Lucky, I appreciate it. Now More on tea with 217 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: my broadcast partner Dave Lappham. All right, lap, I did 218 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: walk back into the locker room after that interview and 219 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: check out the mannican. He chose wisely. I think the 220 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: black accessories with the all orange uniform look better than 221 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: the white. 222 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 3: I agree. 223 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: So he has contract like contract. All right, let's talk 224 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: about his expectations and hopes for having a big season 225 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: back to back one thousand yards three years ago and 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: two years ago, and then last year due to the injuries, 227 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: didn't quite get to seven hundred yards, although he did 228 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: have a career high yards per catch average more than 229 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: fifteen yards per catch. Does he look like a man 230 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: on a mission to you? 231 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: He does? I mean just today talk to him on 232 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 3: the practice field and I said, man, you had a 233 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: good camp tea? Do you think so? I mean, he's 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: so humble, you know, I mean he really is. He's 235 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: he's a great guy man and just an unbelievable teammate. 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: And he goes, you know, I feel like I could 237 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: have done some things better and and I'm like, you 238 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: know what, that's what makes uh, you know, the good ones, 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: great tea, and you're gonna you're you're a great player, 240 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: because he's never satisfied. That's the thing, you know, It's like, oh, 241 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: I've arrived, I'm satisfied. But I mean I thought he had. 242 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: He had a very solid camp. I mean he high 243 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: pointed everything. With that big body and long arms that 244 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: he has, he can uh, he's I think he's deceptive 245 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: with his with his speed, and like he talked about Yosie, 246 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: he's starting to figure out okay in this phase of 247 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: the route, but roke it down to eighty here and 248 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, when you burst to one hundred, 249 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, they're like wow, they can't backpedal and flip 250 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: their hips fast enough. And that change of speed stuff 251 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: is very very important in your route running. And he's 252 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: got all that down. I think he's one hell of 253 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: a player, and the community loves him, and he loves 254 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: the community. I mean, there's a lot of things that 255 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: are pointing in the right direction for t Higgins to 256 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: go out there and light it up, and I think 257 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: he very easily could. 258 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: And then there's Tea's running mate and good friend Jamar Chase. 259 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: Jamar hasn't practiced much during camp as contract negotiations have 260 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: been going on, but he was on the field Wednesday 261 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: and Thursday, which is obviously encouraging with the season opener 262 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: just a few days away. So how did he look? 263 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Here was Joe Burrow after Wednesday's practice. 264 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: I saw him out there today. You know, he looks fast, strong, 265 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 5: like he always does. No, I know he's been doing 266 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: what he needs to do to stay ready if he 267 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: needs to be ready. So I'm confident that if he 268 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: does go out there on Sunday, then he'll be the 269 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: jama we all know. 270 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I think that might be true in limited doses. I 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: can't imagine that Jamar Chase would be able to go 272 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: out there and give the Bengals the kind of volume 273 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: in terms of snaps that were accustomed to see. 274 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he is somebody that runs through contact 275 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: and he is a very strong runner after the reception 276 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: of the football. But let's face it, when you're in 277 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: training camp and you've gone through the grind of practices 278 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: that they had this year at training camp, or you haven't, 279 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: I should say, and you haven't been part of the 280 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 3: joint practices, and those were pretty intense. We saw how 281 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: physical those were, all those routes that weren't run And 282 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he wasn't running. He's probably run a 283 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: lot of routes as well, but not an equipment, not 284 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: with defensive backs trying to reroute him and everything that 285 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: goes along with that. So we've always talked about there's 286 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, football conditioning, and it's different. It definitely is. 287 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: And the number of routes that he would have he's 288 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: missed miles of route running, not consecutively, but you add 289 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: up all the routes and the reps that you know 290 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: he would have taken. It's in football conditioning. So you 291 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: have to make sure that you don't overdo it, you know, 292 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: with him in that first game and again, hopefully the 293 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: Bengals have the ball for a ton of plays, Hopefully 294 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: they have twenty twenty five more snaps than the Patriots do, 295 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: and then that would be a good problem to have. Geez, 296 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: how many do we put Jamar out there for? Better 297 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: not be twenty twenty twenty five plays less than the Patriots. 298 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: That would not be a good situation, and Jamar would 299 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: probably be out there for a lot of those because 300 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals would be trying to you know, probably win 301 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: a football game at that point. If you're if you're 302 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: in the in the hole by twenty twenty five snaps. 303 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: Usually that's not a good sign. So I think it's 304 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: all played by year, you know. I think see how 305 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: he responds. You know, he's he's going to be in 306 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: practice for the first time today and tomorrow and he'll have, 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, a Friday situational practice. He'll have Saturday walkthrough 308 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: and that won't be much. So it will be interesting 309 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: to see, you know, how many snaps Jamar Chase does 310 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: take against the New England Patriots. I want to, you know, 311 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: will he be on a pitch count as such or 312 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: will it be something that will be decided during the 313 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: course of the flow of the game. You know, it's 314 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: just how many how many reps have you taken, how 315 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: much rest have you gotten between drives? All all those 316 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: things I think will play a little bit of a factor. 317 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Do they need much out of Jamar Chase to beat 318 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots in Week one? 319 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he makes things so different, you know, offensively, 320 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: just just the fact that if he's out there just 321 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: being a threat that he is is significant. I think theoretically, 322 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: would they need Jamar Chase to take every offensive snap 323 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: to beat the Patriots. I would hope not. I would 324 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: hope that wouldn't be the case. But I do think 325 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: that I would like to see him take a reasonable 326 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: number of snaps because the next game is the son 327 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: of a gun, there you go. And I mean, you know, 328 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: Kansas City, you need him. And and he's the kind 329 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: of guy. He's different. I mean, he's even more different 330 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: than most football players. He is a genetic marvel, There's 331 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean, he's he's definitely, you know, a 332 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: unique human being in terms of his physical makeup. And 333 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: I would think, you know, if he got quite a 334 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: few snaps under his belt against the Patriots, that would 335 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: bode well for him to participate pretty fully, if not 336 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: totally fully against the Kansas City Chiefs. So I think 337 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: the Patriots might be a ramp up game for him, 338 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: but I hope he ramps up quickly, as do we all. 339 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals looking to win their season open for the 340 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: first time in three years. They've only done it once 341 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: in Zach Taylor's five year tenure. That was a home 342 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: game against the Vikings in overtime a few years ago. 343 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl years had turned out, but in fairness 344 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: to Zach, it hasn't all been his fault. Obviously, Joe 345 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Burrow's status the last couple of years was a major 346 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: reason why the Bengals started slowly. He was a shell 347 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: of himself in Week one each of the last two years, 348 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: first because of the g app and decomy two years 349 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: ago and then because of the calf injury last year. 350 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: So when you've got a quarterback who isn't even close 351 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: to being himself, it's hard to win. Having said all that, 352 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor has changed things a little bit in training 353 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: camp this year and hopes of getting off to a 354 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: faster start, And he said today he thinks his team 355 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: is good to go for Week one. 356 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 6: We had a great training camp. This team's ready to go. 357 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: We're ready to play. You know. I'm happy we've got 358 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 6: these last three days of work to get in there. 359 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 6: But I think this team's really chomping up a bit 360 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 6: to go out there and play against a real opponent 361 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 6: in a real game. We're as prepared as we're going 362 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 6: to be, and so I'm just excited watching these guys. 363 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 6: Let it lose your pay. 364 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: Training camp wasn't the Gulag. It wasn't like when you 365 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: played lap with you know, two practices a day in pads, 366 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: full contact, but it was tougher, more challenging. They had 367 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: a pair of dual practices obviously with the Chicago Bears 368 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: in the Indianapolis Colts where it's very physical and long. 369 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 370 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I do think they are more battle tested than they've been. 371 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: And there's no doubt that Joe Borrow got more throws 372 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: in this training camp for the reasons you just talked about. 373 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: Their practices on a daily basis were a lot of 374 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: situational football and you know, two minute drill backed up 375 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: things of that nature. He got a lot of significant 376 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: reps and he was very very accurate with the football. 377 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of times the ball wasn't in 378 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: the ground very much. And it brought me back to 379 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: you know, early years man Kenny Anderson throwing the football. 380 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: When is this guy gonna have an incompletion? And it's 381 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: just remarkable how how these guys complete passes at such 382 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: a high high percent eighty percent plus during the course 383 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: of training camp, and you know, their action in preseason 384 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: and these joint practices. I thought Joe was very, very good. 385 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: I thought he had an outstanding training camp. I really 386 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: did and I think he's probably feels like he's more 387 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: ready than he's ever been to start an NFL season, 388 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: I think rightfully, so he should feel that way. 389 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: So how is Joe Burrow feeling heading into Sunday season 390 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: opener against the Patriots. 391 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 5: I feel great. This is the best I felt going 392 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 5: into week one, you know, since my rookie season. So 393 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 5: that's exciting for me to be able to get these 394 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 5: reps in training camp and you know, bank all those 395 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 5: and continue to get better throughout this time as opposed 396 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 5: to just trying to get back to baseline. 397 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm remembering last year's opener. What a miserable day that was. 398 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: The weather sucked in Cleveland. Yep, Joe looked terrible. He 399 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: was the statue of liberty back there. It's going to 400 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: be fun to see a much more normal looking Joe 401 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: Burrow in action this week. 402 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: It will and Joe Burrow on the injury report, people 403 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: are going to be like, oh my gosh, it's right 404 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: wrist is on the injury report. Full participation, you know. 405 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: I think, honestly, I'm not sure that Joe Burrow officially 406 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: is out of every phase of rehab. I mean, he's 407 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: still technically a rehab patient as such from from the injury. 408 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: So I think by NFL rule, he has to be 409 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: put on the injury report if he's getting that kind 410 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: of you know, treatment from trainers. So it's it's everybody 411 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: was kind of like, oh my gosh, Joe Burrow, you 412 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: know on the injury report. I mean, it's it's it's 413 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: obviously is it perfect, No, it's not. But is it 414 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: is he fully cleared to play? Hell? Yeah, He's been 415 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: fully cleared to practice forever and he's fully cleared to play. 416 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: And so I would not I would not be wang 417 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: chunged as such about Joe Burrow being on the injury 418 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: report with the right wrist, because his participation is full. 419 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: We've seen him make every type of throw in training camp, deep, intermediate, tight, wind, 420 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: tight windows, any throw he has to make, we saw 421 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: him make at some point during camp. 422 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely and and uh and with velocity and pinpoint accuracy. 423 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean he he threw the ball well not again, 424 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: you're in your interview with t in the beginning, you know, 425 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: he wasn't happy with how it was was going, but 426 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: in terms of the spin on the football, but that 427 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: came back quickly, you know, And uh, you have to. 428 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: You have to maybe make a little bit of an 429 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: adjustment in your grip and the way you release it 430 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: and whatever it might be. That's that's what you do 431 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: that when you have injuries, you have to compensate in 432 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: some way, shape or form to be able to still 433 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 3: perform an extremely high level with with that particular injury, 434 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: whatever it may be. And I mean professional athletes have 435 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: to do it all the time in every sport. 436 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Well. For the last four years, the Bengals have had 437 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: the best trio of wide receivers in the NFL, Jamar 438 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Chase T. Higgins and Tyler Boyd, the so called Cincinnati 439 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: three way. Now, Boyd is a member of the Tennessee Titans, 440 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: and the guy in line to take over that spot 441 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: at least to begin the season is the second year 442 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: pro out of Princeton Andre yo Si Vash. Earlier today, 443 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I asked offensive cordner Dan Pitcher if it is fair 444 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: to call Yo see Vash Tyler Boyd's primary replacement. I 445 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: think that's fair. 446 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 7: You know, I think that qualifying word is important, and 447 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 7: you know, primary can mean fifty percent, you know, it 448 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 7: can mean nine. I don't know where that's going to fall. 449 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: I and maybe. 450 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 7: Maybe that word is not appropriate two weeks from now. 451 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 7: I don't know, but I think he's done enough to 452 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 7: warrant opportunity as as the primary one of our options 453 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 7: to kind of fill that void left by Tyler. But 454 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 7: there's other players that have that have definitely shown that 455 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 7: they deserve opportunity. 456 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: As well, and we intend to use all those guys 457 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: lapping The Bengals drafted Andrea Yosi Vash last year. I 458 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: don't think anybody envisioned him as a slot receiver. Maybe 459 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: if he developed the long term replacement on the outside 460 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: for t Higgins, But here he is is Tyler Boyd's replacement. 461 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and honestly a tip of the cap to 462 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: Troy Walters. I mean he has everybody learning every position interchangeable. 463 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: And you know you've seen Jamar Chase in the slot 464 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: with tremendous results. Yo, Si, I think is going to 465 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: be a darn good slot receiver. I think he's he's 466 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: a big, strong, fast. I mean he's gotten bigger and stronger. 467 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: It's all been good weight. It hasn't affected his speed. 468 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: I think he might even be a half a step faster. 469 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: I mean he is, he is really done a heck 470 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: of a job. I think he and Joe Burrow on 471 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the football have done more to 472 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: improve their bodies in the offseason than anybody probably. And 473 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: and I know a lot of the offensive lineman Orlando 474 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: Brown worked hard, He redid his Alex Kappa, you know, 475 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: really really worked hard. I mean noticeable differences in their bodies. 476 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing that has encouraged me 477 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: about this football team. It didn't start, you know, in 478 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: training camp and OTAs. It started in the off season 479 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: getting ready for OTAs in training camp. And Yosi is 480 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: one of those guys that put a lot of time 481 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: and effort into improving his physicality. He's always been smart, 482 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: and he's a smart football player, but he's he's advanced. 483 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's definitely you know, as sending as 484 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: a football player, there's no question in my mind. 485 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you one on defense as well. Zach Carter, 486 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Zach Carter is. 487 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Huge, buff man. He is, He's a big boy. 488 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 4: He is. 489 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: He's done and quietly, you know, I mean, a lot 490 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: of no big fanfare with any of this. It's just 491 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: guys decided, Okay, Joey Joey. Let's say, obviously, the Bengals 492 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: strength and conditioning coach, here's what I want to do, 493 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: and they put together a program to get it done 494 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: with respected diet and weight training and conditioning and everything 495 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: goes along with it. And I'm telling you this is 496 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: the off season is when you lay the foundation to 497 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: have a great year, and a lot of guys worked 498 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: really hard to lay some good bricks to that foundation. 499 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Man, I think andre Yosi Vosh is going to have 500 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: a big year as the so called third receiver alongside 501 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and t Higgins. Tyler Boyd averaged sixty eight 502 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: catches for seven hundred and seventy five yards over the 503 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: last four years. I would not be the least bit 504 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: surprised if andre puts up similar numbers. 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ESPN's Mike Reese has been 512 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: covering the Patriots for various news outlets for roughly twenty 513 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: five years, and he joined Lapping Me this week on 514 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals Game Plan Show. I started our conversation by 515 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: asking Mike just how different the vibe in New England 516 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: is now that Bill Belichick is gone and thirty eight 517 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: year old Girod Mayo is the head coach. 518 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: Well, Dan and Dave, it's great to be with you, 519 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 4: looking forward to the trip out, you know, Cincinnati, and 520 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: I would say the difference is extreme. And I mean, 521 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: that's that's probably the short the short answer. I'm gonna 522 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: just try to give you like two examples to just 523 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: you know that reflect it. The first is one of 524 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: their players started a podcast this week and the first 525 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: guest or was Gerrod Mayo. 526 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: Wow, And I. 527 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: Thought, and I thought to myself, would Bill Belichick ever 528 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 4: be a podcast guest for one of his players? So 529 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: so that you know, but I and the reason I 530 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: mentioned it, guys is I think it's just reflect of 531 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 4: one of the reasons they made the change, and it's 532 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: just that they felt like they're so appreciative and I'm 533 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: talking about ownership, the Craft family of what Bill Belichick 534 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 4: did for their franchise, just the feeling of maybe it 535 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: had just run its course, you know, and that the 536 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: systems of the in the league have changed, where the 537 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: players coming in have changed, and they were looking for 538 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: a leader that connected with the players before they really 539 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: demanded from the players. And I think I don't know 540 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: if I made sense with that example, but I think 541 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: it's reflective of the change. And you could go on 542 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: and on, but hopefully that sort of gives a little 543 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 4: flavor to it. 544 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: Mike, do you sense a youthful energy? I mean, the 545 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: GM's forty two, the head coach is thirty eight years old, 546 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: and any new ideas that you've noticed. Is there a 547 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: collaboration more so than a dictatorship as such? What's it 548 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: like that way? 549 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: So I think that's fair Dave to say, like, definitely 550 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: more like traditional model, like you have the front office 551 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: and you have the coaching staff, and the front office 552 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: provides the players for the coaching staff. Bill Belichick was 553 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: sort of everything right. And that's not to diminish what 554 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 4: the personnel people like Scott Pioli and Nick Cassio did, 555 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: because they did a lot, but I always felt like 556 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: ultimately the buck stopped with Bill. This is much more 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: traditional model, And I think in terms of like, I 558 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: don't say like youthful because honestly, like the offensive coordinator 559 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: Alex van Pelt to me is a great story. I 560 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: know you guys are familiar with him from his time 561 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: with the Bengals. Like he's fifty four and he's getting 562 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: his first shot to on a you know, call the 563 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: plays and run the show. So it's not like youthful 564 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: as much as it is like former players connecting with 565 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: the current players, if that makes sense. 566 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 567 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 568 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Ike Grease covers the Patriots for ESPN. Mike, I've been 569 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: reading your stuff leading up to the game. I've been 570 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: reading the Boston Globe as well. It seems like offensive 571 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: line is a major concern for the Patriots going into 572 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: the season. What's the status of that group, both in 573 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: terms of talent and also in terms of health. 574 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, major concern. I think anyone that watched that final 575 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: preseason game of the NFL preseason on Sunday Night on 576 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: NBC nationally televised, they got called for four penalties where 577 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: they couldn't align properly. Yeah, you know, and so that 578 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: starts with that, Like fundamentally, you figure they're going to 579 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: get that part cleaned up if they If they don't, 580 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: they're in for a long, long season health wise. They're 581 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: starting left tackle the Darien Lowe, who whether that's even 582 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: good enough before we get to the health is a 583 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: whole other conversation. He's been limited with uh, you know, 584 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: chest oblique type injury. I'm sensing he won't be ready 585 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: to go Sunday, but we'll see. And then they're left 586 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: guard the starter city So a second year player, he 587 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: didn't practice today, he's been out for the last week 588 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 4: or so. I'd be surprised if he plays. So it's 589 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: the whole left side, you know, of the line that 590 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: they're going down to already opening week, second layer. And 591 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: when I look at the Bengals, to me, one of 592 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: the strength of the defense looks like the ends. So 593 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: I think that that looks to me like a favorable 594 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: matchup for the Bengals. 595 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: I'm in total concert with you, Mike. I mean, I 596 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: think that Hendrickson and Hubbard it's going to be a 597 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: gonna be a tough matchup with the offensive line. We 598 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: talked about alex Van Pelt, you know, coming on board 599 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: first time calling the shots offensive coordinator. He and Jacoby 600 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: Brissett have that common denominator. The twenty two season in 601 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: Cleveland eleven starts together. Was that a big reason. Was 602 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: that a factor in bringing Alex van Pelt, the fact 603 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: that he and Jacoby Brissett had a prior relationship that 604 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: was a good one. 605 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: So it was a huge factor in them signing per 606 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: set when they did, because they had hired Van Pelt 607 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: before that, and I think so they knew they were 608 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 4: going to run that system, that West Coast system, and 609 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: then they get the free agency gave and they're like, 610 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: let's get the veteran that's run it, that we know 611 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: is going to be a great mentor to whatever quarterback 612 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: we draft, and we'll see where that leads. And I 613 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: think that's worked out exactly the way they thought it would, 614 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: and they want to give May the number three overall 615 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: pick a little more time. And they feel like specifically 616 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: Alex van Pelt and their quarterbacks coach TC McCartney, who 617 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: is with the Browns as well. They love Jacoby Brissett. 618 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I think he had six in just six 619 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: interceptions and those eleven starts. You know, coaches love don't 620 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: turn it over, give us a chance, yep. And I 621 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 4: think that's what they hope he'll do for them, you know, 622 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 4: until whenever Drake May ultimately takes over. 623 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: How did Drake May look? 624 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: Oh man, this was like the horse race where the 625 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: horse is slow getting out of the gate and you're 626 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: thinking to yourself, where what is this horse gonna contend? 627 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: You know, like, and then all of a sudden they 628 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: come down the home stretch and Jacoby brissets almost that 629 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, he's almost at whatever the finish line 630 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: would be in a horse race, and Drake May comes 631 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: charging on the outside and it makes it like closer 632 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: than you would have ever thought it would be, you know, 633 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: by the end of camp. So he sort of turned 634 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: it on. Call it like the last week and a 635 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: half two weeks of preseason training camp, and Gerrod Mayo 636 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: is on record the head coach as saying that change 637 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: happened when he stopped deferring to Jacoby Brissett as the 638 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 4: veteran and guys, my take on it, just being around 639 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: the team is like, this is a a plus kid, 640 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 4: an individual. Drake May just turned twenty two, you know, 641 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: within the last week, and I think he was so 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: concerned with fitting in and doing the right thing. So 643 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: his heart, his intention is in the right place, but 644 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: he almost took it too far to like acquiesce to Jacoby, 645 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 4: and I think Girod Mayo was like, let's get this 646 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: guy competing like we want to. We want him to know, like, hey, 647 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: this is out there for you, go get it. And 648 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: I think once he did that, you know, the performance 649 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: took off a little bit. 650 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: Defensively, Mike. I mean, they they're obviously, I mean they've 651 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: been phenomenal for the last five years. They've been a 652 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: top ten defense and all of those years, Girod Mayo 653 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: was a big part of that, and so was the 654 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: newly named defensive coordinator DeMarcus Covington. Is it Bentley's show? 655 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: Does he run the show? I mean, it looks like 656 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: they only gave up a little over ninety three yards 657 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 3: a game rushing last year in three point three a carry, 658 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: which is outstanding. I mean, that's like lowest allowed since 659 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: the merger of nineteen seventy for crying out loud. Is 660 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: Bentley that kind of guy? 661 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 4: So this is interesting, Dave. So I'm gonna get. I'm 662 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: gonna start on a little bit of why I think 663 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 4: it might not continue, and then why it might continue. 664 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: So I think, first of all, you don't have Bill 665 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: Belichick anymore. And Belichick didn't coordinate the defense, but I 666 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 4: always felt like he was the guy that said, this 667 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: is how we need to play to win the game 668 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 4: this week. And I it's my belief that no one 669 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 4: was better at him than doing that. Like you'd hear 670 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: people say, he knew us our team almost as much 671 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 4: as well as we knew ourselves. It's not better, Dave, 672 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: They don't. They don't have it anymore. So start with that. 673 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: They traded Matthew Judan, their best pass rusher, which is 674 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 4: a whole other story, you know, and that gets into 675 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: where they are right now and building and and and contracts. 676 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 4: And they lost Christian Barmore, who they felt was going 677 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 4: to be a budding star at defensive tackle when he 678 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: was diagnosed with blood clots in the preseason. So that's 679 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: to me, that's three hits before you've played your first game. 680 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean they can't be good again, and I 681 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 4: think they will be good again, but I just sort 682 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 4: of want to acknowledge, like those those to me are 683 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 4: more than just like small dings. Those are big hits 684 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: that they're taking. 685 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 3: Yep. 686 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: My final question from me. Patriots won four games last year, 687 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: they drafted a quarterback third overall, they're slated to have 688 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: the most cap room of any team in the NFL 689 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: next year, so it kind of feels like a rebuilding year. 690 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that's probably a fair statement. But Lapp grew 691 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: up in New England. I lived there for several years 692 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: when I was doing the Patucket Red Sox games. Boston 693 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: fans are not known for their patients. How are they 694 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: taking the notion of this Patriot team that was the 695 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: team of the decade really facing an uphill climb. 696 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: It's so interesting. I turn on the local sports talk 697 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 4: radio today, like the biggest drive time show, and the 698 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: host is just killing them like you can't be the 699 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: New England Patriots and say that you're gonna have a 700 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 4: year that you just aren't competitive. And so that's the 701 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: tenor to give you a feel for like what sports 702 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 4: radio is like. But my sense, to be honest guys, 703 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: talking to fan season ticket members is there's a little 704 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 4: bit of an understanding that as appreciative as everyone was 705 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 4: for what Bill Belichick the Super Bowls that the last 706 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: few years have been tough, you know, the a talent drain, 707 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 4: you know, decisions on offense that just really didn't work out. 708 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 4: That that there's almost an acknowledgment like the team that 709 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: this regime is taking over was not stocked like it 710 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: and it's gonna take some time. And I think fans 711 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: that have been around almost have used that first year 712 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: that Bill Parcells came in in ninety three when they 713 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: drafted Drew Bledsoe. You know, they were five and eleven 714 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 4: that year, but by the end of the year, people 715 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 4: were pumped, yeah, because they felt like a foundation had 716 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: been created. And I think that's what the longtime fans, 717 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: I believe, sort of have looked at and said that 718 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 4: would make this a successful year. 719 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: Let me ask you an all important third phase question, Mike, 720 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: and appreciate your time as always, you're so kind carving 721 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 3: all this time. Special teams Jeremy Springer's group the Patriots 722 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: are to the NFL lead since twenty fourteen with twenty 723 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: two block kicks, ten field goals, blocked, three extra points, 724 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: nine punts. I mean, are they going to be as 725 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 3: aggressive on special teams as they have been and maybe 726 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 3: even more so a special special teams in area where 727 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: they say, you know, we got to win this phase. 728 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: So well said. 729 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: And first of all, I could talk to you guys 730 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 4: all night. You're gonna you're gonna be the one to 731 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: get me up the phone. I love tucking football. Have 732 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 4: you guys are the bat like? I love the way 733 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: you talk about it. So here's what to know about 734 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 4: Patriots special teams. First of all, yes to what you said. 735 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 4: They need bonus points right because they're still putting together 736 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: offensive stuff right. And Marcus Jones was a twenty twenty 737 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 4: two All Pro as a punt returner, like he was 738 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: the guy THEO. He was a rookie that year. People 739 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 4: forget about him because he got hurt early last year. 740 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 4: So he's gonna you're gonna see him Sunday returning punts, 741 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 4: probably returning kickoffs. So they're they're hoping that they can 742 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: be very explosive in that face of the game. Their 743 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: coordinator is his name is Jeremy Springer. He's a first 744 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: time coordinator, came from the Rams and there. Their assistant 745 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 4: is Tom Quinn, who's a real veteran special teams coach. 746 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 4: Really came up through the Giants with Tom Coughlin, spent 747 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: double digit years with the Giants, So sort of a 748 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: combination of like new blood and energy with Jeremy Springer 749 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 4: and the old sage coach with Tom Quinn. And and 750 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 4: I'll actually they have a third coach, Kobe Tippett, the 751 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 4: son of Pro Football Hall of Famer, So three layers 752 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 4: on the special teams coaching. So honestly, like, I don't 753 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 4: know how aggressive they'll be, but I just sort of 754 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: try to give you because I think that there's a 755 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 4: lot of unknown for everyone with special teams this year 756 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: with the new rules. But that's sort of the snapshot 757 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 4: and I'm like fascinated to see how it unfolds. Starting Sunday, 758 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: out your way thanks. 759 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: To Mike Reeve, one of the best the business. 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