WEBVTT - 03/05/21 DPS Best Of 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.600 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.280 Sports Radio. We were curious the number of NFL playoff 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.760 games that have gone into overtime. Since nineteen eighty seven, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.680 point three percent of playoff games have gone into overtime. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:23.880 We are proposing no overtime, no overtime during the regular season. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.000 We'll see if Florio will write up a little blurb 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.680 on us that the Dan Patrick Show is suggesting no overtime, 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.920 no overtime. We'll find out what the strategy would look 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.519 like with these teams. If there's no overtime there and 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.040 then the postseason we could have overtime. I didn't realize 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.960 that these things were on the docket, just proposals. Here 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.320 roughing the passer, it feels like they always trying to 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.040 sneak sneak it by the goalie here. I don't know. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.640 At the owner's meeting, like nobody's looking, they go, oh, 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.520 everybody's out, let's vote all in favor, and it passes 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.600 spring in Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host Mike, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.880 we are proposing no overtime during the regular season. What 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:09.080 do you think old school pre nineteen seventy four, that's 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.440 how it used to be ties. Do you like ties? 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.000 I don't like ties, and I guess it's on the 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.440 two teams involved to make sure there isn't a tie. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.560 And with so much more scoring now and the two 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.080 point conversion, it's easier to avoid a tie than it 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.480 would have been back in the early seventies and prior 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.160 to that. And Dan, you're onto something in this respect. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.320 I believe that this push to go back to true 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.600 sudden death overtime with this spot and choose concept, which 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.039 I actually am intrigued by. Okay, explain that though, Mike, Okay, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:47.120 so this is just proposed a new overtime possibility, a 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.080 new overtime possibility proposed by the Ravens. There's two types. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.760 There's a sudden death and there's a straight seven and 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.480 a half minutes. I'm told Bill Belichick prefers that seven 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.000 and a half minutes of football. Whatever the score is 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.640 at the end, that's the fun score, win, lose, or draw. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.520 Spot and choose means, in lieu of a coin flip, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.919 to determine first possession, one team picks where the first 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:14.280 drive begins, for example, our own twenty yard line, the 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.760 minus twenty, as the football people call it, Your own 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.520 twenty yard line. One team picks the spot, and the 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.240 other team says whether they're going to take the ball 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.119 and play offense or give the other team the ball 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.120 and play defense. It's as equitable as it can be. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.120 It's as fair as it can be. It reminds me 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.400 of the old Sesame Street sketch where you know, you 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.760 share a cookie by one person breaks it in half 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.720 and the other one chooses which half they want. Totally fair, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.600 and I think it adds layers and levels of strategy 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:49.200 that will probably drive coaches and analytics departments crazy, But 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.359 it's so much better if you're going to go back 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.800 to true sudden death, it's so much better than the 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.000 coin flip. Now, the two ways the Ravens are proposing 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.040 it sudden death with up to ten minutes or this 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:05.360 Belichick preferred seven and a half minutes, play that full amount, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.080 and whoever's ahead at the end wins, which which creates 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.720 I think an additional strategic angle. If you've only got 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.760 seven and a half minutes, you want to make sure 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.240 that you have enough time to do something with the 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.400 ball when you get it back. So it's just layers 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.840 and levels of strategy that I think would drive coaches crazy, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.000 but I think it would be fair to both teams. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.840 Could I have you start on the one yard line? Well, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.560 you could pick the one yard line, but then then 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.120 the other team gets to choose whether it be offense 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 or defense. That's the beauty of it. Okay, okay. And 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.960 I'm told Dan that the analytics people are viewing the 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.560 thirteen the minus thirteen as the break even point. That 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.280 if the team that picks the yard position says twelve 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.080 or less, then that's when you're likely to choose to 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.680 play defense. Fourteen or more, you're likely to choose offense 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.040 in the standard case. Think about it, your quarterback, how 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.400 you feel about your defense, how you feel about whatever 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.120 players you have left in your game plan for the day, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:08.760 how do you feel about your kicker, what the weather 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.560 conditions are. So many things are going to go into 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.840 that decision. Are they voting on this? I know it's 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.480 just a proposal. Does it get put up for vote? Well, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.080 they're presenting it to the competition committee to try to 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.680 get them on board with it. It has more heft, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.640 has more weight if the competition committee is behind it. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.920 But the most important person to have behind it is 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.320 the commissioner. And my understanding is the commissioner likes it 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.880 because number one, it makes the game shorter. And this 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.120 gets back to the point you're making with no overtime. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.280 I think they want the games to be shorter. Dan 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.360 not for this year, but I think it's some year 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.560 down the road, four or five, six, whenever. They're gonna 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.760 start dropping games into more standalone windows. And this Tuesday 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.120 night football that we saw a couple of times this year, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.760 Wednesday afternoon at three o'clock, they're gonna get creative about 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.919 having more standalone games because is gambling proliferates, and as 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.560 real time in game betting becomes technologically available where you 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.000 can sit at home with your phone and what you 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.599 see at the stadium is what's coming into your home 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.160 at that moment, so there's no latency, it makes more 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.920 sense to have not nine games being played at once, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.440 as many games as possible that are the only game 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:32.200 where everyone's watching, everyone's engaged, and everyone's betting one play 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.120 at a time on those games. So you make the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.320 game shorter. Here's why you make the game shorter, because 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.120 you're gonna have teams that are playing on a five 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.039 day break, four day break six day break. You can't 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.400 be playing for seventy minutes. So I think that's why 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.080 they want to make the game shorter. So your idea 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.840 from that perspective is brilliant, thank you, because every game 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.640 is captain sixty minutes. Could you propose that I don't, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.200 I don't have the commissioners here. Could you think I do? Oh, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:06:00.560 you don't either? No, no, but but but but I'm 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.760 sure he would not turn up his nose at a 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.919 good idea. I just think that that the idea of 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.280 going back to tie, did we just have to we'd 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:13.680 have to accept ties. But the strategy of a tie 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.880 in the fourth quarter, I can imagine that. Now it 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.840 changes your philosophy of what you're doing. Instead of how 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.600 many times, well, they're playing for overtime, Now you can't 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.800 play for overtime. Nobody's taken a knee. Now you actually 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.800 are saying, are we comfortable with a tie against this team, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.200 or do we want to go for a win or 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.360 you know, go for one versus go for two. That 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:40.520 when when overtime was the rule pre seventy four, you 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.480 didn't have that option. That that see, that's the beauty 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:44.880 of it, I think, and then here's where I think 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:50.239 they're onto something. The way the game is today, I 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:55.719 think that there would be fewer ties and that and that, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.000 with all the analytics and the and the strategy and 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.719 going for two and all the different things you can do. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.640 I just think that you would see less just kind 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.520 of shrugging. I think they just used to shrug at 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.600 a tie. Yeah, it's a tie, Okay, we'll get them 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.160 next week. I think it would be far different if 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.280 that were the case. Now, all right, a couple of things. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.920 I know we're short on time. The roughing the passer 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:22.440 reviewable that's being proposed correct, Yes, and I don't like it. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.040 I don't like it one bit. The reason I don't 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.600 like it is twenty nineteen pass interference replay review calls 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.680 and non calls, the standard kept changing. You can watch 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.080 the available angles and you can see a glancing blow 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.040 and if it's framed by frame, is that forcible contact 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.000 with the head of the quarterback? I don't like it. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.520 And think about it, Dan, every interception, what's going to 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.600 be part of the replay review? Hey, was there contact 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.360 with the quarterback? Was it possibly roughing the passer? I 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.320 like the concept, but I don't like the execution that 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.160 it likely would entail because we saw it two years 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.040 ago and what a disaster pass interference was. I continue 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.640 to be a believer, and the Ravens are proposing this 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.600 as well. The booth umpire, the extra member of the 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.800 crew who sees what we see at home and can 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.600 talk directly to the referee and say, drop a flag. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.560 Pick up a flag. You guys are making a mistake, 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.560 no different than another member of the crew who runs 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.680 up and talks to the referee and they pick up 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.320 a flag. That's what they need, and they've been reluctant 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.160 to do it, but I think that's the key, because 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.280 what you see when you're on the field and what 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.760 you see at home are two very different things. They 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.600 need a referee, an official who sees what we see 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.000 at home and can talk to the people on the field. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.920 Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host, of course, 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.760 is a website Pro football Talk dot Com. The fumbling 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.000 the ball out of the end zone. Clark Hunt, the 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.720 owner of the Chiefs, the team that benefited from that 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.480 rule in the Division around of the playoffs, suggested before 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.559 the Super Bowl that that rule would be looked at 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.680 by the Competition Committee. There's no proposal yet on that rule, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.640 and Dan, I just don't think they're going to change it. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.000 It's always been there. You know. Once upon a time 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.040 the rule was if you threw an incomplete pass into 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.960 the end zone and it hit the turf, it was 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.199 a touchback and the defense got the ball at its 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.960 own twenty. There's just been this sacred treatment of the 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.400 end zone and that's where this comes from. As unfair 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.080 as it is, here's the reality. It's fair in that 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.079 it affects both teams equally, and you know, it may 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.800 screw you in one game and you may benefit from 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.560 it another game. The thing I don't like about it though, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.320 it penalizes effort. And you see a guy making maximum 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.680 effort to reach the ball out to the pylon, and 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.520 if the ball slips out of his hands and just 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.679 goes out of the end zone one inchin, you lose 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.760 the ball. If it goes out short of the end zone, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.600 buy an inch, you keep the ball. If it hits 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.680 that pylon, you lose the ball. That's what I don't 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:49.880 like about. How about we extend the end zone like CFL. Yeah, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:53.840 that would that would make well, you know, you have 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.400 to do. You have to go back and rebuild half 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.680 the stadium, wouldn't you. Yeah, that would be the problem. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.719 I'm all in. I'm going with that too, like that 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.840 the economy get create some jobs there, anything new, let me. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.240 Roethlisberger resigning it felt like he had to fall on 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.839 his own sword. Do take less to stay there? But 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.720 your thoughts when Roethlisberger announced he was coming back general 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.760 business advice for anyone out there who's ever negotiating a 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:23.760 salary with his or her employer. Once you say I 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.280 don't care how much I pad this year, you can't 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.520 take that back Dan. And once he said that he's 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.840 not getting nineteen million this year, the question is what's 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.480 he getting? And that's why it took so long. If 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.680 he's getting nineteen million this year, it's a half hour 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.040 negotiation to figure out how they're going to move the 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.640 money around and reduce his cap number. Once he said 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.880 that he's getting squeezed, and I'm surprised he only got 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.200 squeezed for five million dollars, so it gives him some 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.760 cap space. I just I think they're delusional in thinking 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.400 that they've got a championship team. This isn't two thousand 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.920 and five, Jerome bettis, let's come back for one more 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.520 run and go win a super Bowl. There are some 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.760 great teams in the AFC, and yeah they were eleven 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.319 another last year. Eight of those games could have gone 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.760 either way. I also wondered about Deshaun Watson, the timing 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.480 of when, if you're going to trade him, when do 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.160 you trade him? And I thought, you know, I just 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.320 have a four sales sign or you know, like a 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.080 yard sale and you say, come on in, give me 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.240 your offers like Detroit did. But I'm wondering, is he 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.160 more likely to get traded closer to the draft. Does 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.160 that make more sense? But I don't even know if 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.600 we're there yet. But what do you think about if 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.920 he is traded, what the timing would be for that? Dan, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.200 I think with all these teams that are looking for 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:41.280 quarterbacks evaluating their options, the problem is if you wait 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.160 until the draft to trade Deshaun Watson, there are teams 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.480 that will have made other plans at quarterback and then 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.720 they're not at the table, and that could be a 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.440 team that helps drive another team up to a higher price. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.679 You know. John McClean and the Houston Chronicle echoed something 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.560 that we had said a few weeks ago they should 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.360 get the Jets and the Dolphins in a bidding war. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.719 Do it now, and hey, if you don't trade for him, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.760 you're gonna have to deal with him twice per year 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.400 and play them against each other. You know, Russell Wilson's 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.680 agent very artfully got it out there the four teams 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.040 that he'd be willing to accept a trade too. At 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.000 some point, the Texans need to find out where are 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.800 the places Deshaun Watson would play. Let's get those teams 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.400 at the table and let but the first they have 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:27.920 to come to the conclusion that they're even going to 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.840 do it. I feel like at this point they are 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.080 in the I don't know, anger denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.720 They're probably still in the denial phase, and they just refuse, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.440 they refuse to accept the fact that this guy is 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.080 never going to play for them again. And Dan, have 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:45.400 you seen or heard anything that contradicts the prevailing notion 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.480 that he's never putting that blue helmet on his head again? No? 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.160 And that's why I didn't understand why they just didn't say, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.480 come on, in compete against each other and hopefully we'll 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.760 get an even bigger treasure trove here the Russell will 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.719 That doesn't feel like there's any real news on the 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.440 Russell Wilson front. We're trying to make news, you know. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.760 I guess his agent said or somebody said, this is 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.480 the reason why he likes the Bears. That doesn't mean 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.960 he's getting traded because he likes Matt Naggie in the 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:20.360 offensive line here. But I haven't heard anything more internally 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.960 about this situation. So did Russ accomplish what he wanted 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.720 to accomplish when he came on our show? Well, well, 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.760 and let's think about the timeline. The stuff he said 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.400 on your show was jar and I've never heard a 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.320 quarterback talk that candidly about his situation. I think Tom 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.959 Brady's to blame or credit for all of that, because 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.080 these guys see what happened with Brady. They want to 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.400 flex their muscles. That was great, but then it got 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.760 quiet for a couple of weeks, so you kind of 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.360 start thinking, well, maybe they've worked things out. Well, then 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.320 comes the Athletic article that pulls some scabs off of 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.640 the situation. Mark Rogers says what he says on the record, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.520 which was as jarring as the comments Russell Wilson made, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.040 and now it's quiet again. Just because it's quiet doesn't 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.719 mean nothing's happening. I mean Seahawks have to be considering 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:11.920 their options. And the four teams are identified by Rogers, Raiders, Bears, Saints, Cowboys. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.599 How do you not, at a minimum, get all the 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.280 decision makers together and say what would we be willing 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.360 to do here? And I've said this about the Saints 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.760 Dan when you look at the cap mess that they're 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.680 in and the guys that they're going to have to 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.120 part ways with, how do you not call the Seahawks 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.640 and say, just tell us who you want, because there's 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.120 a chance they want some guys that you're going to 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.040 cut anyway, or maybe they want a guy that you're 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.760 on the fence about so you can trade him and 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.880 keep one of the guys that you're thinking about cutting. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.560 So I just think that Russell Wilson is good enough 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.920 that those four teams need to at least at least 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.000 explore it, even if it means calling up the Seahawks 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.960 and saying, tell us what you want and we'll see 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.960 if we can come close to because Russ can't have 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.120 his feelings hurt if you reach out to the Saints, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.120 whereas Deshaun Watson, you know, maybe that's different or some 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.640 of these other teams where they reach out and you go, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.120 oh gosh, don't let him find out that you reach down. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.840 Russell's people will probably go, Okay, you have to do 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.560 your due diligence. If I'm Seattle, I just find out. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:16.480 I just want to know. If it gets worse, then 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.600 at least I know. Hey, you know what the Saints 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.600 will give us this? Hey, you know what the Bears 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.440 will give us is this. Put those two. Pick those 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.560 two against each other, and let's see what we have here. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.760 Here's what it comes down to. And this was my 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:32.320 takeaway after reading the item in The Athletic. Russell Wilson 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.480 views himself as Patrick Mahomes, and he has every right 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.400 to view that. We haven't seen him in a situation 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.960 where he is of Patrick Mahomes, where the offense runs 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.280 through him and it's orchestrated to get the most out 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.080 of his abilities. That's what he wants. If the Seahawks 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.360 don't view Russell Wilson the way Russell Wilson views Russell Wilson, 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.680 then trade him to a team that does because necessarily, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.360 whatever that team offers will reflect what they think of 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.280 Russell Wilson and the Seahawks will look at it and say, 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.880 these bastards are crazy. Why are they offering this for 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.240 this guy. Let's take it and low take it and run. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.280 Have a great way, Ken Mike, always great to talk 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.800 to you, buddy. Thank you, Thanks Dan se Mike Florio, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.600 Pro Football Talk. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.400 Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.720 morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.400 on Fox Sports Radio. 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Listen to Up on Game with 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.080 me lebar Arrington, TJ. Hutchman's Out of and Plexico Birds 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:13.280 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:19.760 your podcast from. Bringing Tim mcmaan ESPN NBA staff writer 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:23.879 who joins us on the program. Do you think that 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:29.280 the Utah Jazz were singled out here by by Lebron 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.159 and company that they were the last two picks Rudy 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.760 Gobert and uh and Mitchell Donovan Mitchell? Yeah, I mean, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.919 I don't know if Lebron and k D intentionally did this. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.399 I don't know if they got together on plot of this, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.600 But is it disrespect to the Jazz, to the team 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.639 that has the best record of the Namba. Will it 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.479 be perceived as disrespect in Utah? Yeah? Absolutely, there's no 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.880 question about it. And I really for Rudy Gobert, especially 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.680 he's obviously the guy who went dead last, so he's 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.480 the guy who felt like he had to wait an 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.919 extra couple of years just to get invited to the 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.840 All Star Game. And really, you know the video game stuff, 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.520 come on, you think was Lebron playing with the New 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.439 Orleans Pelicans growing up. I don't know, I don't know. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.640 I don't know that he had too much experience playing 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.280 with the Pelicans growing up, But it kind of felt 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.080 like Lebron and KD again, whether it was intentionally or not, 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.760 we're basically saying, you might have the best record in 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.760 the league, but you really don't belong at the top 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:33.119 level of the NBA. Yeah, So, using Lebron's logic, if 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.880 Luca don Chick played in Utah, then he wouldn't take 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.760 him because Carl Malone and John Stockton played there, Right, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.520 that's what he's telling me. Yeah, Black Bron Stockton to 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:47.360 Malone for sure. Yeah, I like this. I'm not big 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.359 on the All Star weekend, but if it's here and 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.680 they're willing to have some fun with this with the 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.600 slam dunk, so they're cramming the slam dunk contest in 0:18:54.680 --> 0:19:00.000 at halftime, right, Yeah, and not the not the most 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.760 thrilling dunk contest field that I think we've ever seen, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.880 but such as life and Alex Caruso of the Lakers 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:12.800 turned down the invitation. Yeah, when when a six foot 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.840 three white dude who's Balding's turning down dunk contest invitation. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.040 It's it's, uh, you know, we've got some issues, and 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.360 you have the three point contest where you do have 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.640 some you know, you've got great shooters in there. So 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.920 that that and I like watching it, but a three 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.639 point contest has significantly more sizzled than the dunk content. 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.320 Let's be honest, we all wish Zion would have accepted 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.800 a dunk contest invitation. That's what we want to see, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.920 and then you know, Topping might throw down some nice stuff. 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.480 We wanted to see Zion on that stage, and so 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.000 that's that's a bummer that he didn't take the invitation. 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:49.440 Caruso we can live without, although I might have been 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.720 interested in seeing Alex Caruso in the duncast. And then 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.560 the man can fly, and especially since you know he's 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.720 he's just kind of acknowledged that, you know, he's got 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.520 a little endorsement deal his knowledge like going full buzz, 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.520 he's all aerodynamic. Now he can really get up. I 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.280 had a couple of things here. I don't know who's 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.680 going to be traded here. It feels like Kyle Lowry's 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.639 available or sort of available. How available is Lowry? And 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.520 where do you see him landing well. And that's the 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.200 big question because at this point it does not look 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.840 like Brad Thibie will be available. So Kyle Lowry would 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.879 then become, you know, the most impactful player potentially on 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.920 the trade market. And you know, when when you look 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.439 at fits for him, the one that really stands out 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.879 is Philly, and not just because he's from there, not 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:38.199 because he's a Nova guy, although that's a nice little storyline, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.560 but simply because of how he would fit with the 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.919 seventy six Ers, how he would fit giving a third 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.080 star to a team that obviously has Joel and b 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.560 playing at an MVP level. You know Ben Simmons, and 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.960 also you know Darryl Moorey is as aggressive as any 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.960 you know, personnel executive in the league in terms of 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.800 in season trades. He tried to make the Harden trade happen. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.080 That didn't you know, Louy would not require to give 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.640 it up Ben Simmons, but I fully expect that Darryl 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.639 Moore will make an aggressive pitch because you know, the 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.240