Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We were curious the number of NFL playoff
Speaker 1: games that have gone into overtime. Since nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: point three percent of playoff games have gone into overtime.
Speaker 1: We are proposing no overtime, no overtime during the regular season.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Florio will write up a little blurb
Speaker 1: on us that the Dan Patrick Show is suggesting no overtime,
Speaker 1: no overtime. We'll find out what the strategy would look
Speaker 1: like with these teams. If there's no overtime there and
Speaker 1: then the postseason we could have overtime. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that these things were on the docket, just proposals. Here
Speaker 1: roughing the passer, it feels like they always trying to
Speaker 1: sneak sneak it by the goalie here. I don't know.
Speaker 1: At the owner's meeting, like nobody's looking, they go, oh,
Speaker 1: everybody's out, let's vote all in favor, and it passes
Speaker 1: spring in Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host Mike,
Speaker 1: we are proposing no overtime during the regular season. What
Speaker 1: do you think old school pre nineteen seventy four, that's
Speaker 1: how it used to be ties. Do you like ties?
Speaker 1: I don't like ties, and I guess it's on the
Speaker 1: two teams involved to make sure there isn't a tie.
Speaker 1: And with so much more scoring now and the two
Speaker 1: point conversion, it's easier to avoid a tie than it
Speaker 1: would have been back in the early seventies and prior
Speaker 1: to that. And Dan, you're onto something in this respect.
Speaker 1: I believe that this push to go back to true
Speaker 1: sudden death overtime with this spot and choose concept, which
Speaker 1: I actually am intrigued by. Okay, explain that though, Mike, Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is just proposed a new overtime possibility, a
Speaker 1: new overtime possibility proposed by the Ravens. There's two types.
Speaker 1: There's a sudden death and there's a straight seven and
Speaker 1: a half minutes. I'm told Bill Belichick prefers that seven
Speaker 1: and a half minutes of football. Whatever the score is
Speaker 1: at the end, that's the fun score, win, lose, or draw.
Speaker 1: Spot and choose means, in lieu of a coin flip,
Speaker 1: to determine first possession, one team picks where the first
Speaker 1: drive begins, for example, our own twenty yard line, the
Speaker 1: minus twenty, as the football people call it, Your own
Speaker 1: twenty yard line. One team picks the spot, and the
Speaker 1: other team says whether they're going to take the ball
Speaker 1: and play offense or give the other team the ball
Speaker 1: and play defense. It's as equitable as it can be.
Speaker 1: It's as fair as it can be. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of the old Sesame Street sketch where you know, you
Speaker 1: share a cookie by one person breaks it in half
Speaker 1: and the other one chooses which half they want. Totally fair,
Speaker 1: and I think it adds layers and levels of strategy
Speaker 1: that will probably drive coaches and analytics departments crazy, But
Speaker 1: it's so much better if you're going to go back
Speaker 1: to true sudden death, it's so much better than the
Speaker 1: coin flip. Now, the two ways the Ravens are proposing
Speaker 1: it sudden death with up to ten minutes or this
Speaker 1: Belichick preferred seven and a half minutes, play that full amount,
Speaker 1: and whoever's ahead at the end wins, which which creates
Speaker 1: I think an additional strategic angle. If you've only got
Speaker 1: seven and a half minutes, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you have enough time to do something with the
Speaker 1: ball when you get it back. So it's just layers
Speaker 1: and levels of strategy that I think would drive coaches crazy,
Speaker 1: but I think it would be fair to both teams.
Speaker 1: Could I have you start on the one yard line? Well,
Speaker 1: you could pick the one yard line, but then then
Speaker 1: the other team gets to choose whether it be offense
Speaker 1: or defense. That's the beauty of it. Okay, okay. And
Speaker 1: I'm told Dan that the analytics people are viewing the
Speaker 1: thirteen the minus thirteen as the break even point. That
Speaker 1: if the team that picks the yard position says twelve
Speaker 1: or less, then that's when you're likely to choose to
Speaker 1: play defense. Fourteen or more, you're likely to choose offense
Speaker 1: in the standard case. Think about it, your quarterback, how
Speaker 1: you feel about your defense, how you feel about whatever
Speaker 1: players you have left in your game plan for the day,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about your kicker, what the weather
Speaker 1: conditions are. So many things are going to go into
Speaker 1: that decision. Are they voting on this? I know it's
Speaker 1: just a proposal. Does it get put up for vote? Well,
Speaker 1: they're presenting it to the competition committee to try to
Speaker 1: get them on board with it. It has more heft,
Speaker 1: has more weight if the competition committee is behind it.
Speaker 1: But the most important person to have behind it is
Speaker 1: the commissioner. And my understanding is the commissioner likes it
Speaker 1: because number one, it makes the game shorter. And this
Speaker 1: gets back to the point you're making with no overtime.
Speaker 1: I think they want the games to be shorter. Dan
Speaker 1: not for this year, but I think it's some year
Speaker 1: down the road, four or five, six, whenever. They're gonna
Speaker 1: start dropping games into more standalone windows. And this Tuesday
Speaker 1: night football that we saw a couple of times this year,
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon at three o'clock, they're gonna get creative about
Speaker 1: having more standalone games because is gambling proliferates, and as
Speaker 1: real time in game betting becomes technologically available where you
Speaker 1: can sit at home with your phone and what you
Speaker 1: see at the stadium is what's coming into your home
Speaker 1: at that moment, so there's no latency, it makes more
Speaker 1: sense to have not nine games being played at once,
Speaker 1: as many games as possible that are the only game
Speaker 1: where everyone's watching, everyone's engaged, and everyone's betting one play
Speaker 1: at a time on those games. So you make the
Speaker 1: game shorter. Here's why you make the game shorter, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna have teams that are playing on a five
Speaker 1: day break, four day break six day break. You can't
Speaker 1: be playing for seventy minutes. So I think that's why
Speaker 1: they want to make the game shorter. So your idea
Speaker 1: from that perspective is brilliant, thank you, because every game
Speaker 1: is captain sixty minutes. Could you propose that I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't have the commissioners here. Could you think I do? Oh,
Speaker 1: you don't either? No, no, but but but but I'm
Speaker 1: sure he would not turn up his nose at a
Speaker 1: good idea. I just think that that the idea of
Speaker 1: going back to tie, did we just have to we'd
Speaker 1: have to accept ties. But the strategy of a tie
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, I can imagine that. Now it
Speaker 1: changes your philosophy of what you're doing. Instead of how
Speaker 1: many times, well, they're playing for overtime, Now you can't
Speaker 1: play for overtime. Nobody's taken a knee. Now you actually
Speaker 1: are saying, are we comfortable with a tie against this team,
Speaker 1: or do we want to go for a win or
Speaker 1: you know, go for one versus go for two. That
Speaker 1: when when overtime was the rule pre seventy four, you
Speaker 1: didn't have that option. That that see, that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of it, I think, and then here's where I think
Speaker 1: they're onto something. The way the game is today, I
Speaker 1: think that there would be fewer ties and that and that,
Speaker 1: with all the analytics and the and the strategy and
Speaker 1: going for two and all the different things you can do.
Speaker 1: I just think that you would see less just kind
Speaker 1: of shrugging. I think they just used to shrug at
Speaker 1: a tie. Yeah, it's a tie, Okay, we'll get them
Speaker 1: next week. I think it would be far different if
Speaker 1: that were the case. Now, all right, a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I know we're short on time. The roughing the passer
Speaker 1: reviewable that's being proposed correct, Yes, and I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it one bit. The reason I don't
Speaker 1: like it is twenty nineteen pass interference replay review calls
Speaker 1: and non calls, the standard kept changing. You can watch
Speaker 1: the available angles and you can see a glancing blow
Speaker 1: and if it's framed by frame, is that forcible contact
Speaker 1: with the head of the quarterback? I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And think about it, Dan, every interception, what's going to
Speaker 1: be part of the replay review? Hey, was there contact
Speaker 1: with the quarterback? Was it possibly roughing the passer? I
Speaker 1: like the concept, but I don't like the execution that
Speaker 1: it likely would entail because we saw it two years
Speaker 1: ago and what a disaster pass interference was. I continue
Speaker 1: to be a believer, and the Ravens are proposing this
Speaker 1: as well. The booth umpire, the extra member of the
Speaker 1: crew who sees what we see at home and can
Speaker 1: talk directly to the referee and say, drop a flag.
Speaker 1: Pick up a flag. You guys are making a mistake,
Speaker 1: no different than another member of the crew who runs
Speaker 1: up and talks to the referee and they pick up
Speaker 1: a flag. That's what they need, and they've been reluctant
Speaker 1: to do it, but I think that's the key, because
Speaker 1: what you see when you're on the field and what
Speaker 1: you see at home are two very different things. They
Speaker 1: need a referee, an official who sees what we see
Speaker 1: at home and can talk to the people on the field.
Speaker 1: Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co host, of course,
Speaker 1: is a website Pro football Talk dot Com. The fumbling
Speaker 1: the ball out of the end zone. Clark Hunt, the
Speaker 1: owner of the Chiefs, the team that benefited from that
Speaker 1: rule in the Division around of the playoffs, suggested before
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that that rule would be looked at
Speaker 1: by the Competition Committee. There's no proposal yet on that rule,
Speaker 1: and Dan, I just don't think they're going to change it.
Speaker 1: It's always been there. You know. Once upon a time
Speaker 1: the rule was if you threw an incomplete pass into
Speaker 1: the end zone and it hit the turf, it was
Speaker 1: a touchback and the defense got the ball at its
Speaker 1: own twenty. There's just been this sacred treatment of the
Speaker 1: end zone and that's where this comes from. As unfair
Speaker 1: as it is, here's the reality. It's fair in that
Speaker 1: it affects both teams equally, and you know, it may
Speaker 1: screw you in one game and you may benefit from
Speaker 1: it another game. The thing I don't like about it though,
Speaker 1: it penalizes effort. And you see a guy making maximum
Speaker 1: effort to reach the ball out to the pylon, and
Speaker 1: if the ball slips out of his hands and just
Speaker 1: goes out of the end zone one inchin, you lose
Speaker 1: the ball. If it goes out short of the end zone,
Speaker 1: buy an inch, you keep the ball. If it hits
Speaker 1: that pylon, you lose the ball. That's what I don't
Speaker 1: like about. How about we extend the end zone like CFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would that would make well, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to do. You have to go back and rebuild half
Speaker 1: the stadium, wouldn't you. Yeah, that would be the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm all in. I'm going with that too, like that
Speaker 1: the economy get create some jobs there, anything new, let me.
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger resigning it felt like he had to fall on
Speaker 1: his own sword. Do take less to stay there? But
Speaker 1: your thoughts when Roethlisberger announced he was coming back general
Speaker 1: business advice for anyone out there who's ever negotiating a
Speaker 1: salary with his or her employer. Once you say I
Speaker 1: don't care how much I pad this year, you can't
Speaker 1: take that back Dan. And once he said that he's
Speaker 1: not getting nineteen million this year, the question is what's
Speaker 1: he getting? And that's why it took so long. If
Speaker 1: he's getting nineteen million this year, it's a half hour
Speaker 1: negotiation to figure out how they're going to move the
Speaker 1: money around and reduce his cap number. Once he said
Speaker 1: that he's getting squeezed, and I'm surprised he only got
Speaker 1: squeezed for five million dollars, so it gives him some
Speaker 1: cap space. I just I think they're delusional in thinking
Speaker 1: that they've got a championship team. This isn't two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, Jerome bettis, let's come back for one more
Speaker 1: run and go win a super Bowl. There are some
Speaker 1: great teams in the AFC, and yeah they were eleven
Speaker 1: another last year. Eight of those games could have gone
Speaker 1: either way. I also wondered about Deshaun Watson, the timing
Speaker 1: of when, if you're going to trade him, when do
Speaker 1: you trade him? And I thought, you know, I just
Speaker 1: have a four sales sign or you know, like a
Speaker 1: yard sale and you say, come on in, give me
Speaker 1: your offers like Detroit did. But I'm wondering, is he
Speaker 1: more likely to get traded closer to the draft. Does
Speaker 1: that make more sense? But I don't even know if
Speaker 1: we're there yet. But what do you think about if
Speaker 1: he is traded, what the timing would be for that? Dan,
Speaker 1: I think with all these teams that are looking for
Speaker 1: quarterbacks evaluating their options, the problem is if you wait
Speaker 1: until the draft to trade Deshaun Watson, there are teams
Speaker 1: that will have made other plans at quarterback and then
Speaker 1: they're not at the table, and that could be a
Speaker 1: team that helps drive another team up to a higher price.
Speaker 1: You know. John McClean and the Houston Chronicle echoed something
Speaker 1: that we had said a few weeks ago they should
Speaker 1: get the Jets and the Dolphins in a bidding war.
Speaker 1: Do it now, and hey, if you don't trade for him,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with him twice per year
Speaker 1: and play them against each other. You know, Russell Wilson's
Speaker 1: agent very artfully got it out there the four teams
Speaker 1: that he'd be willing to accept a trade too. At
Speaker 1: some point, the Texans need to find out where are
Speaker 1: the places Deshaun Watson would play. Let's get those teams
Speaker 1: at the table and let but the first they have
Speaker 1: to come to the conclusion that they're even going to
Speaker 1: do it. I feel like at this point they are
Speaker 1: in the I don't know, anger denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance.
Speaker 1: They're probably still in the denial phase, and they just refuse,
Speaker 1: they refuse to accept the fact that this guy is
Speaker 1: never going to play for them again. And Dan, have
Speaker 1: you seen or heard anything that contradicts the prevailing notion
Speaker 1: that he's never putting that blue helmet on his head again? No?
Speaker 1: And that's why I didn't understand why they just didn't say,
Speaker 1: come on, in compete against each other and hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: get an even bigger treasure trove here the Russell will
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like there's any real news on the
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson front. We're trying to make news, you know.
Speaker 1: I guess his agent said or somebody said, this is
Speaker 1: the reason why he likes the Bears. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he's getting traded because he likes Matt Naggie in the
Speaker 1: offensive line here. But I haven't heard anything more internally
Speaker 1: about this situation. So did Russ accomplish what he wanted
Speaker 1: to accomplish when he came on our show? Well, well,
Speaker 1: and let's think about the timeline. The stuff he said
Speaker 1: on your show was jar and I've never heard a
Speaker 1: quarterback talk that candidly about his situation. I think Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's to blame or credit for all of that, because
Speaker 1: these guys see what happened with Brady. They want to
Speaker 1: flex their muscles. That was great, but then it got
Speaker 1: quiet for a couple of weeks, so you kind of
Speaker 1: start thinking, well, maybe they've worked things out. Well, then
Speaker 1: comes the Athletic article that pulls some scabs off of
Speaker 1: the situation. Mark Rogers says what he says on the record,
Speaker 1: which was as jarring as the comments Russell Wilson made,
Speaker 1: and now it's quiet again. Just because it's quiet doesn't
Speaker 1: mean nothing's happening. I mean Seahawks have to be considering
Speaker 1: their options. And the four teams are identified by Rogers, Raiders, Bears, Saints, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: How do you not, at a minimum, get all the
Speaker 1: decision makers together and say what would we be willing
Speaker 1: to do here? And I've said this about the Saints
Speaker 1: Dan when you look at the cap mess that they're
Speaker 1: in and the guys that they're going to have to
Speaker 1: part ways with, how do you not call the Seahawks
Speaker 1: and say, just tell us who you want, because there's
Speaker 1: a chance they want some guys that you're going to
Speaker 1: cut anyway, or maybe they want a guy that you're
Speaker 1: on the fence about so you can trade him and
Speaker 1: keep one of the guys that you're thinking about cutting.
Speaker 1: So I just think that Russell Wilson is good enough
Speaker 1: that those four teams need to at least at least
Speaker 1: explore it, even if it means calling up the Seahawks
Speaker 1: and saying, tell us what you want and we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can come close to because Russ can't have
Speaker 1: his feelings hurt if you reach out to the Saints,
Speaker 1: whereas Deshaun Watson, you know, maybe that's different or some
Speaker 1: of these other teams where they reach out and you go,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, don't let him find out that you reach down.
Speaker 1: Russell's people will probably go, Okay, you have to do
Speaker 1: your due diligence. If I'm Seattle, I just find out.
Speaker 1: I just want to know. If it gets worse, then
Speaker 1: at least I know. Hey, you know what the Saints
Speaker 1: will give us this? Hey, you know what the Bears
Speaker 1: will give us is this. Put those two. Pick those
Speaker 1: two against each other, and let's see what we have here.
Speaker 1: Here's what it comes down to. And this was my
Speaker 1: takeaway after reading the item in The Athletic. Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: views himself as Patrick Mahomes, and he has every right
Speaker 1: to view that. We haven't seen him in a situation
Speaker 1: where he is of Patrick Mahomes, where the offense runs
Speaker 1: through him and it's orchestrated to get the most out
Speaker 1: of his abilities. That's what he wants. If the Seahawks
Speaker 1: don't view Russell Wilson the way Russell Wilson views Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: then trade him to a team that does because necessarily,
Speaker 1: whatever that team offers will reflect what they think of
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Seahawks will look at it and say,
Speaker 1: these bastards are crazy. Why are they offering this for
Speaker 1: this guy. Let's take it and low take it and run.
Speaker 1: Have a great way, Ken Mike, always great to talk
Speaker 1: to you, buddy. Thank you, Thanks Dan se Mike Florio,
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Speaker 1: your podcast from. Bringing Tim mcmaan ESPN NBA staff writer
Speaker 1: who joins us on the program. Do you think that
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz were singled out here by by Lebron
Speaker 1: and company that they were the last two picks Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert and uh and Mitchell Donovan Mitchell? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Lebron and k D intentionally did this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they got together on plot of this,
Speaker 1: But is it disrespect to the Jazz, to the team
Speaker 1: that has the best record of the Namba. Will it
Speaker 1: be perceived as disrespect in Utah? Yeah? Absolutely, there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. And I really for Rudy Gobert, especially
Speaker 1: he's obviously the guy who went dead last, so he's
Speaker 1: the guy who felt like he had to wait an
Speaker 1: extra couple of years just to get invited to the
Speaker 1: All Star Game. And really, you know the video game stuff,
Speaker 1: come on, you think was Lebron playing with the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans growing up. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he had too much experience playing
Speaker 1: with the Pelicans growing up, But it kind of felt
Speaker 1: like Lebron and KD again, whether it was intentionally or not,
Speaker 1: we're basically saying, you might have the best record in
Speaker 1: the league, but you really don't belong at the top
Speaker 1: level of the NBA. Yeah, So, using Lebron's logic, if
Speaker 1: Luca don Chick played in Utah, then he wouldn't take
Speaker 1: him because Carl Malone and John Stockton played there, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what he's telling me. Yeah, Black Bron Stockton to
Speaker 1: Malone for sure. Yeah, I like this. I'm not big
Speaker 1: on the All Star weekend, but if it's here and
Speaker 1: they're willing to have some fun with this with the
Speaker 1: slam dunk, so they're cramming the slam dunk contest in
Speaker 1: at halftime, right, Yeah, and not the not the most
Speaker 1: thrilling dunk contest field that I think we've ever seen,
Speaker 1: but such as life and Alex Caruso of the Lakers
Speaker 1: turned down the invitation. Yeah, when when a six foot
Speaker 1: three white dude who's Balding's turning down dunk contest invitation.
Speaker 1: It's it's, uh, you know, we've got some issues, and
Speaker 1: you have the three point contest where you do have
Speaker 1: some you know, you've got great shooters in there. So
Speaker 1: that that and I like watching it, but a three
Speaker 1: point contest has significantly more sizzled than the dunk content.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, we all wish Zion would have accepted
Speaker 1: a dunk contest invitation. That's what we want to see,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Topping might throw down some nice stuff.
Speaker 1: We wanted to see Zion on that stage, and so
Speaker 1: that's that's a bummer that he didn't take the invitation.
Speaker 1: Caruso we can live without, although I might have been
Speaker 1: interested in seeing Alex Caruso in the duncast. And then
Speaker 1: the man can fly, and especially since you know he's
Speaker 1: he's just kind of acknowledged that, you know, he's got
Speaker 1: a little endorsement deal his knowledge like going full buzz,
Speaker 1: he's all aerodynamic. Now he can really get up. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of things here. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: going to be traded here. It feels like Kyle Lowry's
Speaker 1: available or sort of available. How available is Lowry? And
Speaker 1: where do you see him landing well. And that's the
Speaker 1: big question because at this point it does not look
Speaker 1: like Brad Thibie will be available. So Kyle Lowry would
Speaker 1: then become, you know, the most impactful player potentially on
Speaker 1: the trade market. And you know, when when you look
Speaker 1: at fits for him, the one that really stands out
Speaker 1: is Philly, and not just because he's from there, not
Speaker 1: because he's a Nova guy, although that's a nice little storyline,
Speaker 1: but simply because of how he would fit with the
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers, how he would fit giving a third
Speaker 1: star to a team that obviously has Joel and b
Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level. You know Ben Simmons, and
Speaker 1: also you know Darryl Moorey is as aggressive as any
Speaker 1: you know, personnel executive in the league in terms of
Speaker 1: in season trades. He tried to make the Harden trade happen.
Speaker 1: That didn't you know, Louy would not require to give
Speaker 1: it up Ben Simmons, but I fully expect that Darryl
Speaker 1: Moore will make an aggressive pitch because you know, the
Speaker 1: seventy six Ers are one of these handful of teams
Speaker 1: but obviously have a legitimate shot at winner championship this season.
Speaker 1: NBA analyst Greg Anthony was on the show on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: He disagreed with me, saying that this was a two
Speaker 1: way street with the Rockets, they also quit on James
Speaker 1: Harden and vice. First, I know you did a deep
Speaker 1: dive on this, but separate fact from fiction here with
Speaker 1: what went on. I said, I can't I couldn't vote
Speaker 1: for Harden if I had to vote for MVP because
Speaker 1: he quit on the Rockets. He showed up out of shape,
Speaker 1: he did not want to be there, and this is
Speaker 1: a team that he helped build and deconstruct, and now
Speaker 1: I'm going to have him as MVP in the same season.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't see it happening. So what did
Speaker 1: you find out with your deep dive? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, and obviously it was a
Speaker 1: bad looked the way that he gave up on the Rockets.
Speaker 1: But I also think if you haven't VP vote, you
Speaker 1: have to just evaluate based on pure value and his
Speaker 1: value to the Brooklyn Nets. I think you have to
Speaker 1: include James Harden in that conversation. I wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: the Rockets quit on Hardened. I think you can definitely, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, take a look at some of the some
Speaker 1: of the moves they made, some of the moves they
Speaker 1: didn't make, you know, not go into the luxury tax
Speaker 1: his last few years, and you can nip pick it,
Speaker 1: but they were, you know, they were trying, like you know,
Speaker 1: this summer, they were aggressive, trying to kind of remodel
Speaker 1: the roster, getting Christian would hoping they could convince the mistake.
Speaker 1: But obviously there was just no hope. But again, if
Speaker 1: you talk about what really went wrong with the Rockets,
Speaker 1: what was kind of the the move that that you know,
Speaker 1: had this whole thing tumbling down. It was given up
Speaker 1: Chris Paul and a whole bunch of picks for us
Speaker 1: with Westbrook and James Harden not only was on board
Speaker 1: with that, but he was pounding the table wanted it
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, that's where I don't have any sympathy.
Speaker 1: Not that hardens looking for, but you wanted these players,
Speaker 1: you wanted to get rid of these players. And so
Speaker 1: is he playing at an All Star MVPLA Absolutely yeah,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he should be the MVP. It
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, earlier and earlier in the season,
Speaker 1: we're looking at MVP candidates to him, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is just sports talk radio. We need content with the NFL.
Speaker 1: We start talking about the MVP usually after the first
Speaker 1: month of the season, you know, trying to handicap this yo.
Speaker 1: Kitch has been wonderful in Denver and beat has been
Speaker 1: great hard and you can throw him in there, Lebron.
Speaker 1: I know it's really important to him, But when it
Speaker 1: comes down to the MVP, what is the This guy
Speaker 1: has to have this to get my MVP vote. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard's the guy you didn't mention you has to
Speaker 1: be in that discussion. Look, this is all ridiculously premature,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not media driven, it's player driven
Speaker 1: as well. I mean Lebron started lobbying for this MVP
Speaker 1: when he was still in the bubble complaining about last
Speaker 1: year's boats. So don't blame the media on this one.
Speaker 1: Oh no, we we get blamed for this, tim because
Speaker 1: just because Lebron said it doesn't mean we have to
Speaker 1: pick up the baton and keep running. Then look, look
Speaker 1: we we okay, well we will give them the assist,
Speaker 1: all right, at the minimum. But you know these guys
Speaker 1: are lobbying themselves, so um right A couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: I would have said Lebron Anthony Davis went out, Obviously
Speaker 1: the Lakers had taken a dip here. My first half
Speaker 1: MVP would be Joel Embiid. He's averaging thirty and ten.
Speaker 1: He's a major impact player on the defensive band. The
Speaker 1: Sixers have the best record in the league, and his
Speaker 1: last statement going to the All Star Break was forty
Speaker 1: and nineteen against you know, Rudy Gobert and the team
Speaker 1: of the best record in the league, hitting the clutch
Speaker 1: three to send that thing in overtime. And then not
Speaker 1: only has he been the best center in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but he's one of the best referees. He got don
Speaker 1: in that game. You know, how do you not go that?
Speaker 1: Why is it that I look at him bead the
Speaker 1: way I do James Harden And he'll never be in
Speaker 1: as good enough shape as I think he should be.
Speaker 1: But he is still incredible. He might be in great shape, tim,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's ever gonna look like
Speaker 1: he's in great shape. Yeah, And it's funny if you
Speaker 1: look at him early in his career, he was definitely leaner.
Speaker 1: And look, the thing with him beat is can he
Speaker 1: play the vast majority of the games, and you know,
Speaker 1: can he finished games strong and so far this season
Speaker 1: that's happened. But you know, when Bead's a guy, you
Speaker 1: know a lot of these guys, he liked to complain
Speaker 1: about the boating of you know, for him in particular,
Speaker 1: it's all NBA last year, how to go bargain over? Dude,
Speaker 1: you missed twenty something games and your team finished six
Speaker 1: and you know in the conference in the seventy sixers
Speaker 1: were disappointing last season. So if MBAT continues producing like
Speaker 1: he is, if the Sixers can fight off the nets
Speaker 1: stay atop the Eastern Conference and he you know, to
Speaker 1: do that, he's going to have to play the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the games. I think right now, you know,
Speaker 1: he would be number one on my ballot. What's the
Speaker 1: update on Anthony Davis? Uh, you know, we will see.
Speaker 1: Obviously that's a situation where, you know what, for the Lakers,
Speaker 1: the seating isn't really important. You know, if they're a three,
Speaker 1: four or five seat even going in the Western Conference playoffs,
Speaker 1: if they have Lebron James and Anthony Davis healthy, they're
Speaker 1: going to feel like they're the team to beat, and
Speaker 1: you know what, I would agree with him. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact timetable for a D
Speaker 1: is coming back after the All Star break, but I
Speaker 1: do know that the Lakers aren't going to rush him.
Speaker 1: They're they're thinking long term as they should. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know this isn't headline worthy, but if they don't have
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, they're not winning the championship this year. And
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is, like, this is true load
Speaker 1: management for somebody who needs load management with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1: Have the supporting cast? Has the supporting cast for the
Speaker 1: Lakers lived up to its billing? No? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they've been a disappointment since since a D went down.
Speaker 1: There's you know, there's no question about that. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: there's too much on the bronze play. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to you know, this was a chance for lebron
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, really enhance his MVP case
Speaker 1: that that hasn't happened as well, but just the piece
Speaker 1: or Marcusol has been a disappointment there. You know, Marcus
Speaker 1: all looks like a guy who has had a great career,
Speaker 1: but you know is out of gas at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if that changes in the second
Speaker 1: half the season. Mantras, Harold is a guy with warts.
Speaker 1: You know, he's there's a reason that after you got
Speaker 1: six men the year, the Clippers were just fine. Let
Speaker 1: him walk across the hallway. You know, the fact that
Speaker 1: he's playing nineteen minutes in a game where Anthony Davis, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, is wearing sweats on the bench, I think
Speaker 1: that tells you a lot. And so you know they're
Speaker 1: not invincible. But again, if A D and Lebron are healthy,
Speaker 1: they can have some warts for that supporting cast. And
Speaker 1: that's still the team that I would put my money on.
Speaker 1: If they're completely healthy and the Nets are completely healthy,
Speaker 1: you like the Lakers over the Nets. I would, just
Speaker 1: because my general philosophy on the NBA is if Lebron
Speaker 1: has a legitimate All NBA co star, I don't bet
Speaker 1: against him. You know, if he's healthy, that's a legitimate
Speaker 1: All NBA co star. I'm not betting against him. And
Speaker 1: you know the Nets, uh, I mean, offensively, they are unbelievable. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, we'll see about their health as well.
Speaker 1: You know, KD obviously has been banged up. Kyrie is
Speaker 1: not exactly the most durable star in the league. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see how they're how they're looking going to playoffs.
Speaker 1: But now the nets obviously are forced to be reckoned
Speaker 1: with and I think, you know, statistically and just by
Speaker 1: the eye test, the best offensive team that we've seen. Tim,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you, have fun at the Old
Speaker 1: Star Weekend. We appreciate your time as always, all right,
Speaker 1: appreciate you having me. That's Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA staff
Speaker 1: writer and did a deep dive on the Rockets divorce
Speaker 1: from James Harden. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the
Speaker 1: Peacock app. Ernie Johnson Junior, By the way, inside the
Speaker 1: NBA Sports Emmy Award winning studio show UM, they have
Speaker 1: a documentary. It's a four part documentary series and it
Speaker 1: first part was last night. First episode aired last night.
Speaker 1: Part two tonight. It's The Role Player at nine Eastern
Speaker 1: and Ernesto Johnson Junior the third joining us on the program.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Ernie, and I think good morning, Dad. I
Speaker 1: think the answer to your question is why do those
Speaker 1: UFOs never land as if if they did see our show,
Speaker 1: they would Joe as it past. That's that's for sure.
Speaker 1: How are you doing this morning. I'm doing great. I'm
Speaker 1: doing great. Paulie brought up a question to me right
Speaker 1: before I turned on the microphone to talk to you,
Speaker 1: and he said, how did Ernie get the job as
Speaker 1: the host of Inside the NBA? How did did you
Speaker 1: get that. I was working in Atlanta at a station
Speaker 1: you remember, at local station there because you were at
Speaker 1: CNN at the time. I was working for WUSB. I
Speaker 1: was the weekend sports anchor, and the folks at Turner
Speaker 1: called one day and said, hey, would you want to
Speaker 1: come and work with us because we have this role
Speaker 1: for you as the host of our wide world of
Speaker 1: sports type show called US Olympic Gold and so we'd
Speaker 1: like you to host that for about a year and
Speaker 1: then and then become the host of the good Will
Speaker 1: Games in Seattle. And I said, that sounds that sounds good.
Speaker 1: I'll do that. There was really not much talk about
Speaker 1: the NBA at that point. As things worked out, there
Speaker 1: was a bit of a power struggle at the top
Speaker 1: of the good Will Games organization in between the time
Speaker 1: I was hired and the time that the good Will
Speaker 1: Games happened. And so Larry King became the host, and
Speaker 1: he had Hannah's Storm and Charles as his co hosts.
Speaker 1: And I was assigned to, uh, to all the sports
Speaker 1: that Bode doesn't know, as I referred to it at
Speaker 1: that point, judo, uh, team handball, um, uh, modern pentathlon.
Speaker 1: I was, uh, that was kind of a jack of
Speaker 1: all trades covering things at the Good World Game. So
Speaker 1: that didn't exactly shake out the way it was supposed to,
Speaker 1: but uh, but certainly in the long run. When when
Speaker 1: they asked me to host the NBA, that was that
Speaker 1: was pretty good career move. What was it like when
Speaker 1: Barkley first came to town. I think we're all pumped.
Speaker 1: I mean, who wouldn't be, because this was like landing
Speaker 1: the biggest free agent in history. Uh, this was you know,
Speaker 1: this was um and especially what made it even even
Speaker 1: better in a way was we had kind of resigned
Speaker 1: ourselves to the fact that he was going to go
Speaker 1: to NBC. You know that, you know he'll be over
Speaker 1: there with them, and but will keeps doing our thing,
Speaker 1: and Kenny and I you know, really enjoyed working together.
Speaker 1: But man, when you land that, it's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be this is gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 1: And my only question at the time was when the
Speaker 1: novelty wears off, is Charles gonna say, Okay, that's enough
Speaker 1: of this. I've done three shows, Now what else is
Speaker 1: there in my life? So? Um, Fortunately, he's been He's
Speaker 1: been with us for like twenty one years or twenty
Speaker 1: years now, so uh no, it's he's been Dan as
Speaker 1: you know, he's been tremendous and and the whole key
Speaker 1: to that is he hasn't changed from the person he
Speaker 1: was as a player to the person he is on TV.
Speaker 1: And I think that See, that's the danger if you say,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, yeah, I've been kind of this
Speaker 1: outspoken guy and always you know, he's always opinionated. But
Speaker 1: when the red light goes on, now I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hush up. And that's he's been so far over over
Speaker 1: the edge on that it's night and funny and I
Speaker 1: know that. Um, I don't think I mean this literally
Speaker 1: of rehearsing. How much rehearse do you do? But we
Speaker 1: have these meetings before show where you kind of go
Speaker 1: over topics that you're going to bring up, or you
Speaker 1: might clue somebody in on a joke that you might prank,
Speaker 1: you play on somebody else. But how much of what
Speaker 1: is said on the show itself are you aware of
Speaker 1: before the show? None of it really from those guys. No,
Speaker 1: not from them, because because of the production meeting, I'm
Speaker 1: in there with Tim Kylie and Jeremy Levin who's ever
Speaker 1: producing that night? And you know in about twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five other people are on the call now on these
Speaker 1: Zoom production meetings. Oh Shack and Charles and Kenny aren't
Speaker 1: in on no no, no, no, no no no, they've
Speaker 1: never been. And the and the thing is part of
Speaker 1: that was by designed, but part of it was like
Speaker 1: they were like, I'm not gonna sit in a meeting
Speaker 1: for three three hours before we go on the air,
Speaker 1: And it just works out better for us because if
Speaker 1: we do have something we want to spring on Kenny
Speaker 1: in an old piece of video where he gets his
Speaker 1: pocket picked at mid court and somebody dunks, we don't
Speaker 1: want him saying, oh yeah, can he get ready? Because
Speaker 1: in the third segment of post game, we're gonna show this.
Speaker 1: So that's what we want to do. We just want
Speaker 1: to be able to spring things on people. And like
Speaker 1: the other night, we we we you know, made up
Speaker 1: this game show for Shack based on the fact that he,
Speaker 1: you know, Pascal Siakam. The week before, I had said,
Speaker 1: you got your eye on Pascal and he said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I've got my on Siakam. And it's like,
Speaker 1: so the next week we had a game show on
Speaker 1: the air. Could could you name the first what's the
Speaker 1: first name of these players? And I told him and
Speaker 1: I even told Shack, I said, look, here's here's our
Speaker 1: stat sheet that we get from Elias or whoever. And
Speaker 1: so every every name I'm gonna give you, it's it's
Speaker 1: either in the top twenty of an apartment or the
Speaker 1: top ten of an apartment, so you know, you know
Speaker 1: here it is, here's the last name Monk, he plays
Speaker 1: for Charlotte Eli, No, Molliak okay, And it was it
Speaker 1: was just what we do. But do the producers have
Speaker 1: the green light? Ernie? I know it feels like the
Speaker 1: talent has the green light, but producers poking Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame players everything? Are you allowed to, you know, suggest
Speaker 1: something that might hurt somebody's feelings or make them uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we've I think we've done this long enough
Speaker 1: to know that no one's feelings are going to get
Speaker 1: hurt if that were If that were the case, then
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a docuse series right now. People would
Speaker 1: have bailed on the show. I'm talking about people who
Speaker 1: were on the show long ago, because every every one
Speaker 1: of us has been has been in the cross hears
Speaker 1: from the other guys. So, but Shack does poke Charles,
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a little bit more tension. No,
Speaker 1: it's man, did you see Shack the other night on
Speaker 1: the wrestling thing? Yeah, okay, Shack knows drama. Shack knows
Speaker 1: TV that Shack knows what's good. You know. So if
Speaker 1: Shack's going to raise his voice at Chuck because they
Speaker 1: can't agree on exactly where Kris stops Porzingis should be
Speaker 1: in the Dallas offense, it's it's not that they're going
Speaker 1: to step out in the parking lot. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: it's good, it's good conversation, but it's never forced. It's
Speaker 1: never something like, well, Shack's just going to take this
Speaker 1: position so that we can have an argument on the air.
Speaker 1: It's just these guys have different philosophies on the game.
Speaker 1: So now, but please rest assured. There is not going
Speaker 1: to be this heavyweight bout of you know, seven hundred
Speaker 1: pounds of humanity wrestling on the floor. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see it, but no, have you ever gotten hurt? Have
Speaker 1: I ever gotten hurt on the show? Doing what? Like
Speaker 1: you're sort of in between those guys or you're just
Speaker 1: sort of an innocent bystander, then you somehow you're getting
Speaker 1: you know, it's collateral damage. Now, Dan, you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm a sensitive guy. I've only had my feelings hurt.
Speaker 1: There has been no physical pain. It's emotional, emotional pain.
Speaker 1: I get it. Why are we having all our weekend? Well, um,
Speaker 1: I think because it's a tradition, and it's because obviously
Speaker 1: there are monetary issues that you know, I'm the last
Speaker 1: guy to ask about what something's going to mean from
Speaker 1: a fiscal standpoint, but I think, I mean, the commissioner
Speaker 1: was pretty forthright about that, and he said, yeah, look,
Speaker 1: we want to do this, and it looks like the
Speaker 1: fans want it because there's so much voting and that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But he also was like, look, we
Speaker 1: need to we need to do this financially, and so
Speaker 1: having it in Atlanta certainly reduces all the travel for
Speaker 1: all of our folks because you know, we have the
Speaker 1: game on TNT, so there's nobody flying cross country or
Speaker 1: flying here and there and that kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: all the equipments here. So uh, that's that's why we're
Speaker 1: having it. I was surprised, you know, I didn't think,
Speaker 1: you know, when the word came down that there was
Speaker 1: going to be one. I was surprised. I thought, just
Speaker 1: from my view, it was going to be Wow, let's hey,
Speaker 1: let's get to the All Star break and then everybody
Speaker 1: sit back and take a deep breath and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we did this all right now, now what can we
Speaker 1: do on the second half. But but again, they have
Speaker 1: their reasons for doing it. And I'm in a few hours,
Speaker 1: I'm heading down to the Omni Hotel to quarantine for
Speaker 1: a couple of days and get tested today. I was
Speaker 1: tested last night. I'll get tested again today and tomorrow
Speaker 1: and then go to the arena Sunday and we'll do
Speaker 1: the thing. The four part documentary on inside the NBA,
Speaker 1: you can see it on TNT tonight is the role player.
Speaker 1: That's part two. What's the best item in your man
Speaker 1: cave or your office? There? Picture of me and my
Speaker 1: dad is pretty cool right there, all over your right shoulder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: right there from back in fifty nine, I believe, as
Speaker 1: last year with the Braves. That was from like a
Speaker 1: father Sunday. What else we got here? Uh, Georgia Jersey.
Speaker 1: That says poppy, which is what my grandkids call me. Um.
Speaker 1: But there's a bunch of stuff in here. We call this.
Speaker 1: We call this the room because my dad sent me
Speaker 1: a clipping one time from the AJC that talked about
Speaker 1: our high school baseball game. And he just and then
Speaker 1: he said, here, put this in the room when it's built.
Speaker 1: And so you know, he says that back in the
Speaker 1: in the eighties or the seventies, and so my wife
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, we're gonna make the room.
Speaker 1: So we just got a bunch of stuff in here. Man,
Speaker 1: I have a very hard time throwing things away. Any
Speaker 1: sports Emmy's in there. Uh, there's one right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're probably probably my name on it, probably should have
Speaker 1: my name on it. Oh, without question, without question, have
Speaker 1: you ever wanted and felt guilty that I was out
Speaker 1: there in the audience and I didn't win it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look, I'm you're I'm to try to make a
Speaker 1: try to answer this in a way that doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like it's mamby pamby bs um. Whenever my name is
Speaker 1: called on that thing, it's like, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: Because I always look out there and I see and
Speaker 1: you look at the list of guys and it and
Speaker 1: every year it could go to anybody, any of those
Speaker 1: you know five that are that are nominated. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's there's a special bitter suite feeling when you
Speaker 1: leave the stage and I you and I lock eyes,
Speaker 1: and but I always wonder when I see you win,
Speaker 1: like how did I not win? When we lock eyes?
Speaker 1: So like how did that happen? Is what I say. Well,
Speaker 1: that's an upset for the ages. How did it? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But but I will say I am pretty phony when
Speaker 1: it comes to applauding, because I mean, I'm used to
Speaker 1: be in there with Bob Costas, So when Costas doesn't win,
Speaker 1: I go, I'm in like this is mine. And then
Speaker 1: when he's not nominated, everybody feels like, oh, we're thrilled
Speaker 1: on a chance, and then all of a sudden and
Speaker 1: the winner is Ernie Jo And then I'm like, I
Speaker 1: gotta be really quick because I like you and I
Speaker 1: root for you, but after a while I don't like
Speaker 1: you and don't root for you. So that's so kind
Speaker 1: of it. But you know what's funny is when you're
Speaker 1: just to the point we made when for so many
Speaker 1: years when Bob was nominated, it was like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: I'll yeah, I'll go, but I'm just gonna be there
Speaker 1: to cheer for Bob, you know, when when his name
Speaker 1: is called. But those times when hold on, I'm nominated. Here,
Speaker 1: costUS is not the guy who's won eight hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty seven of these bad boys, we got a chance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you this story,
Speaker 1: but there was one year when costUS wasn't nominated for
Speaker 1: the Best Studio Host and I'm nominated along with Chris Berman,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure who else was nominated, but I'm
Speaker 1: at the table they had tables back then, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and Chris Berman is talking to a couple
Speaker 1: of produce Scott Akerson was one of our producers. Bob
Speaker 1: Rousher was a produce, and he's telling them that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta thank I gotta thank Tommy me. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he's going down the list of everybody's going to thank,
Speaker 1: and then he looks at me and he goes, good luck. Well,
Speaker 1: I win the Sports Emmy, Ernie. I come back at
Speaker 1: the table and it's as if I walked into a week.
Speaker 1: I called my wife and I and she goes, you
Speaker 1: don't sound excited. I go, oh hone, it's bad. I
Speaker 1: walked out of the Sports Emmy's after that, went down
Speaker 1: to Clark's and had a drive. I brought the Emmy
Speaker 1: and I sat at the bar with my Emmy and
Speaker 1: I just had I had a couple of beers because
Speaker 1: I couldn't just sit there by yourself. Yes, yes, what
Speaker 1: a what an image? I know, but I felt bad
Speaker 1: that like Chris. The reason why I won is that
Speaker 1: Chris opened the door for us to be able to
Speaker 1: have fun on Sports Center. Really, Chris is as influential
Speaker 1: as anybody who's ever done this. But I felt bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just there with that Sports Emmy and he's right
Speaker 1: across the table from me, and I felt terrible. And
Speaker 1: I just remember going I'm going down the street and
Speaker 1: uh just went to a bar, sat there with Miami drank.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what a touching and disturbing story. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you that That is the title of my documentary.
Speaker 1: It's a four part documentary, touching and disturbing the Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick's story. Play nice this weekend. By the way, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, of course. Hey. By the way, Chuckster
Speaker 1: will not be with us for All Star coverage. Oh
Speaker 1: his daughter is getting married? Yeah, how about do you
Speaker 1: think do you think he cries? No, doubt love, No,
Speaker 1: he's crying right now. I mean, it's it's not you
Speaker 1: know what. And I've been down that road and it's fine.
Speaker 1: Did you cry? Oh yeah, yeah I did. But you
Speaker 1: know what, um, and see, I'm I'm a sucker. You
Speaker 1: know the movie Father of the Bride Steve Martin, because
Speaker 1: that that always tears me up. And so I actually
Speaker 1: tried to circumvent me crying too much at Maggie's wedding
Speaker 1: by watching the movie like two nights before, just trying
Speaker 1: to get it out of my sister. And all it
Speaker 1: did was exacerbate the situation something I mean, because I mean,
Speaker 1: You're sitting there and you're and you're about to do
Speaker 1: it and you look in your daughter's eyes and it's
Speaker 1: just like, oh my goodness, I gotta do it three times.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't a mess though. Oh it's dan, it's
Speaker 1: the it's the it's the greatest. You know, there's there's
Speaker 1: this this great part, there's this horrible part. But when
Speaker 1: they when they mesh together, it just makes for the
Speaker 1: most unforgettable, cool day. You'll never forget it. You got
Speaker 1: with three time. Yeah, I got three daughters. Yeah I've
Speaker 1: got I'll be doing this again at some point too.
Speaker 1: But um, but it was, you know, to do that.
Speaker 1: And I was also the best man at my son
Speaker 1: Eric's wedding. So I've had these wonderful, incredible moments. And
Speaker 1: and so if anybody ever has fun saying, oh is
Speaker 1: anybody gonna cry, you go ahead, man. If there's ever
Speaker 1: a reason to cry, it's a it's moments like this.
Speaker 1: I have suggested to my daughters that all three get
Speaker 1: married on the same day, cut cost and cut down
Speaker 1: on the tears. That would be uh, that would be unique.
Speaker 1: You know what I think when I when when Eric
Speaker 1: and Maggie both got married, they got married a month
Speaker 1: apart in the same year. Um, so that's why I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be working until I'm ninety three. Ernie. Great to
Speaker 1: talk to you, and happy to play a role in
Speaker 1: some small part in the documentary series. I meant to
Speaker 1: I meant to say that too, Dan, I'm sorry, because no,
Speaker 1: they had so many they talked to so many folks
Speaker 1: you include it, and the way our editors and everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've done a spectacular job. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've watched the whole thing or any of
Speaker 1: it at all, but the way they put put this
Speaker 1: thing together, and with the comments of folks like you
Speaker 1: and Will Bond and others and common and you name it,
Speaker 1: it's just they did a spectacular job. And it's it's
Speaker 1: not me just saying hey, this is great because it's
Speaker 1: about our show. But there are times when you watch
Speaker 1: a show, watch a documentary something like this and say, man,
Speaker 1: is that well put together? It really is. So thanks
Speaker 1: for thanks for all your kind words about the show.
Speaker 1: Man you would you were awesome. And if you win
Speaker 1: another Sports Emmy because of this documentary that I've been praising,
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem right though. If that happens, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm going down to Clark's, but by yourself with your emmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, setting me up. Sal yeah, have another round.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you, Ernie. Have a great weekend, any buddy.
Speaker 1: That's ERNESTO. Johnson Junior, the third TNT inside the NBA.
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.