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Speaker 4: Tuesday morning? Fine?

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Speaker 2: Ready to rock and roll?

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Speaker 4: Come on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Morning?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, how's uh how's Moscow, Brady?

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Speaker 6: How Uh, let's just say this. I wasn't sure if

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Speaker 6: I was going to be able to make it for

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Speaker 6: the show today. So wow, I wasn't sure if ill

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Speaker 6: is going to be ransom for someone else?

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Speaker 2: What was going on?

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Speaker 4: So I hope people realize that we really do roll

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Speaker 4: the dice. No pun intended.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I rolled the dice on this one.

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Speaker 7: They just maybe curious next time, you know, we we

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Speaker 7: figure out a whay you get to.

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Speaker 4: And from you know, yeah, it's uh, it's that time

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Speaker 4: of the morning.

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Speaker 2: But about vampire as far about they're real, man, they're real.

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Speaker 2: I sit with one every day.

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Speaker 4: Damn. Yeah, I'm just saying it's the truth. Damn rude.

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Speaker 2: But the vampires in Texas? Where are you?

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Speaker 8: I don't even want to ask y'all. Y'all got an

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Speaker 8: inside bit going right now. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what it is, so you know, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: No, there's no bit. I texted you.

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Speaker 7: I told you it was a dicey little car ride

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Speaker 7: get into the studio today.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't even check my text messages. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, right, that happens.

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Speaker 4: My bad but but made the flight right. Everything's everything

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Speaker 4: was good. No, No, that was a.

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Speaker 2: Whole separate story. I mean that that could have been

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was one of those where I was trying to

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Speaker 7: Las Vegas for something, and unfortunately, because of de icing. Man,

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you, de icing takes forever at some of

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Speaker 7: these airports. That caused me to miss the connection and

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Speaker 2: In a particular airport for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 7: So it is what it is. Thankful, blessed to be,

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Speaker 7: you know, blessed to be out here. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: little bit crazy. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. It's skeet in Las Vegas sometimes.

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, look man, this time of morning, we're

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Speaker 4: a super Bowl. That's just the way that town rolls. Like,

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Speaker 4: That's just you know, when you're trying to get to

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: People are up.

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Speaker 7: I am hearing a lot of complaints about the in

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Speaker 7: affordability now of Las.

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Speaker 2: Vegas, so that that is like a consistent theme.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't matter who picks you up, they'll start talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what it want me to do

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Speaker 4: Is it like what cost a living or just.

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Speaker 7: You know, they charge for every now you know, parking, drinks,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, now I'm up to speed.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are you at the same studio?

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Speaker 7: It's again would have would have been nice because that

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Speaker 2: To well Sin city.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just try not sinning. Oh easy for anybody. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, alright, So work on the subject of the NFL

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Speaker 4: This was kind of speculated about following the combine that

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Speaker 4: Texans in exchange for offensive lineman Juice Scrugs and two

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Speaker 4: and then that'll be featured in my bottom mock ten

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Speaker 4: It felt like they were heading in this direction. Montgomery's

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Speaker 4: Nobody seems to know what the hell's going on with

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Speaker 4: get released based on reports. It was not available at

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Speaker 4: all last year. There was wild speculation about what was

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Speaker 4: feels like makes some sense, provides some assistance and some

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Speaker 7: I get this for Detroit. You draft capital in return,

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Speaker 7: so it makes sense. You know, you don't have to

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Speaker 7: saying like David Montgommer's had a lot of carries, a

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Speaker 7: his job. But how does this make as much sense?

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Speaker 7: For the Texans, Like, why would they use a mid

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Speaker 7: I just it doesn't make as much sense to me

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Speaker 8: I battle with myself on the idea that running backs

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Speaker 8: there are a lot of talented running backs out there.

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Speaker 8: What you don't have a lot of are talented dual

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Speaker 8: for a more productive season by one of those guys.

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Speaker 8: Somebody emerges, another one may play the background, one may

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Speaker 2: May take a backstep to that.

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Speaker 8: And it seems to one keep a healthy a healthy

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Speaker 8: Now he's dealt with with an MCL injury out at

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Speaker 8: the most part, I mean, Montgomery's been a reliable, solid

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Speaker 8: this doesn't to me. And I know I always sound

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Speaker 8: like I'm negative, But when you start disrupting the fabric

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Speaker 8: you're going down the lane where there's uncertainty as to

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Speaker 8: you get a backup that isn't as effective as Montgomery

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Speaker 8: Jamir Gibbs isn't as productive as he's been being with

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Speaker 8: Montgomery in the backfield. That would be my biggest concern

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Speaker 8: for Detroit. And I just wonder does this signal a slight.

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Speaker 8: I won't say a total rebuild because it's just this

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Speaker 8: think that would be my biggest question is not what

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Speaker 8: to gore? What is your maneuvering here for? And it

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Speaker 8: would would assume you would assume it was the lack

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Speaker 4: From the Detroit side of things. Yeah, yeah, Look, Dan

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Speaker 4: Campbell alluded to it, you know, and you made mention

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Speaker 4: if you'll ever get back to this point again. And

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Speaker 4: if you just look at the Lions on a two

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Speaker 4: year run, they went from you know, basically the same

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Speaker 4: old Lions got some momentum because they beat Green Bay

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Speaker 4: on the on the season finale in week eighteen or

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Speaker 4: week seventeen, whatever it was the year before, and then

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Speaker 4: they come to the next year, they get to the

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Speaker 4: NFC title game, they got an opportunity to beat the Niners.

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell, you know, turns into Dan Gamble again. They

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Speaker 4: lose that game. Then they're hosting a playoff game against

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Speaker 4: Washington and lose the very next year, and then you

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Speaker 4: see this year, and I just wonder if that was

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Speaker 4: because everybody's windows a little bit differently, if maybe that

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Speaker 4: change the success of the team. Players are starting to

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Speaker 4: get paid. Ben Johnson is gone, you know, Aaron Glenn's gone,

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Speaker 4: but it'll probably be back anyways. Uh, there's there's like

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Speaker 8: They had a run game. Man, They had a balance

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Speaker 8: and they did not have that balance this year. They

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Speaker 8: Detroit's run, I'm not saying Montgomery is the reason why.

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Speaker 8: There's there could be the strong possibility with the improvement

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if and Britty you mentioned the Titus Howard trade

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Speaker 7: I think when you look at where the organization's out

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Speaker 2: To a super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I feel like that's where they feel like this team

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Speaker 8: Stroud and and him cashing in. As good as that

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Speaker 8: You cannot, you cannot throw games away or just depend

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Speaker 2: But who's a run first team? Now? I think there's

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they may throw more, but I still think that

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Speaker 8: I think the Texas want to be a run first team.

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Speaker 8: There's LaVar's opinion. Yeah, then there's the truth.

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Speaker 2: It's an opinion. We have any little game searcher music, there.

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Speaker 7: We go, all right, all right, who is the number

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Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not entertaining this game because at the

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Speaker 2: Before you ruin our game, show how right? I don't

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Speaker 2: want to ruin your I don't want to ruin I

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't don't Yes? Good, yeah, good, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: LeVar should have played LaVar.

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Speaker 2: You were right.

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Speaker 7: The number one rush team was the Baltimore Ravens last season.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Fifty They are the highest in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: But you said every team, every other team in the

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Speaker 8: I think you have to throw the ball the amount

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Speaker 8: I don't think that in consideration of It's almost like

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Speaker 7: And what you're missing out on the teams that are

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Speaker 7: they ran it, but most teams in the NFL now

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Speaker 4: should be at A congratulations to Trey Young of the Wizards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, baby, How you can get fired on your

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Speaker 2: day off? That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I can't come on the court.

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Speaker 7: Argie Calls hasn't even played yet, already got ejected out

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Speaker 7: of the game.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask this about Trey Young?

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Speaker 7: I feel like he came into the NBA as the

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Speaker 7: second coming, or at least was billed as the second coming.

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Speaker 2: Of Steph Curry. Is that fair?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hasn't exactly gone the way we thought.

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Speaker 7: And I know it took Steph Curry a little while

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Speaker 7: before he became Steph Curry. And by the way, no

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Speaker 7: one's gonna doubt Tree Young's talent, But why in your

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Speaker 7: minds has he not come.

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Speaker 2: Together the way they thought? And this league's built for him, right?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it is a.

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Speaker 7: Three point shooting, spread it out, you know, that's where

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Speaker 7: the game is. It literally plays into his skill set

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Speaker 7: in and into his hand.

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Speaker 8: We'll never see another Steph Curry. So if they if

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Speaker 8: he is being built up to be the next Steph Curry,

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Speaker 8: that's that's that's strike number one, two and three already,

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Speaker 8: Like you can compare the dude and and he's got

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Speaker 8: great handles. He's he's been pretty good in terms of

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Speaker 8: distribution of of the ball. He can score. He developed

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Speaker 8: a nice reputation in Atlanta. But he's not He's not

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Speaker 8: he's not even an A level He's not an A

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Speaker 8: level talent in in the league. He's really good, and

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Speaker 8: he's at really really bright moments, but there's not a

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Speaker 8: level of consistency and there's not a level of dominance

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Speaker 8: connected to his game where he impacts games on a

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Speaker 8: on a regular basis like Steph Curry. I mean, he's

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Speaker 8: also Steph Curry. Also, I think had a better infrastructure

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Speaker 8: than Trey Young.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, Atlanta has been a bit of a mess

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Speaker 2: for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Now, that's a good call. This actually surprised me because, look,

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Speaker 4: we went.

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Speaker 8: To that same infrastructure, the same team, had the same players.

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Speaker 8: Trey Young still with pale in comparison to Steph Curry

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Speaker 8: just and that's Levar's opinion that that's probably not truth.

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Speaker 8: But that's Levar's opinion.

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Speaker 2: Is that a sensitive?

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Speaker 5: Fine?

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Speaker 4: What happened there?

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Speaker 2: Sensitive?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 8: No, I just like Petty, that's odd and I love

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Speaker 8: referencing what was it in reference to the last SEGMENTE get

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Speaker 8: But that's that's what Q does.

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Speaker 2: Q Q hits me with. There's the truth and then

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Speaker 2: there's levard's opinion. I just had every other stats.

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Speaker 7: Dude, you don't have to get upset because I'm not

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Speaker 7: upset what it says.

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Speaker 8: Bro Listen, that's a misleading stat But to everybody out there,

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Speaker 8: go go with the misleading stat and and and love

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Speaker 4: Can I give you a can I give you Let

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Speaker 4: me just.

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Speaker 2: Throw this out there. Four time All Star he was,

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Speaker 2: he was runner up for Rookie of the Year. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just want to be clear. I'm not making the

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Speaker 7: case that he hasn't had a good career. That add

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Speaker 7: is a good career thus far throughout the course of it.

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Speaker 7: I think people tend to forget how good he was coming.

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Speaker 2: Out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 7: Sure, I mean he averaged twenty seven points a game,

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Speaker 7: about nine assists a game. I mean he was firing

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Speaker 7: shots from the logo type style of play and it

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Speaker 7: and again, maybe you're right, maybe it is the infrastructure

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Speaker 7: around Atlanta, given some of the decisions they've made, and

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Speaker 7: in particular of late you know, it was a Magic

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Speaker 7: City night that Oh yeah, we got enough by the way,

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Speaker 7: it feels like happened things outside.

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Speaker 2: Of not everybody the players. Yeah, you had to cancel that.

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Speaker 8: But here's here's why I thought you guys were going

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Speaker 8: to say Kyrie Irving, he would be more of a

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Speaker 8: comparison to Kyrie than to Steph Curry.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that is it took it to

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Speaker 2: the rack like that. I don't that was his game.

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Speaker 4: Also, it was a slasher. No, he was more of

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Speaker 4: a He's a jump shooter, jump shooter slasher. If there

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Speaker 4: was if there was no Steph Curry, Trey Young would

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Speaker 4: be viewed completely different because if you just look at

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Speaker 4: his numbers, and the natural instinct is to compare him

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Speaker 4: to Steph Curry and and I totally get it, and

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Speaker 4: it's fair. But if you just looked at his numbers,

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Speaker 4: if you looked at his numbers, Tray Young third all

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Speaker 4: time in assists per game. He trails I think John

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Speaker 4: Stockton and Magic Johnson. He's for his comparable to Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry because because it's a different and Steph Curry's not

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Speaker 4: on that list. Steph Curry is a score, is a score.

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Speaker 4: But it's not like Trey Young can't score. The guy's

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Speaker 4: averaging twenty six a game for his career. Like he's

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Speaker 4: had a really, really, really good career, but he'll never

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Speaker 4: compare to Steph Curry. And so because there's always going

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Speaker 4: to be that comp he's never going to be able

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Speaker 4: to live up to that. He's just not going to

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Speaker 4: And and it doesn't like he's had a wonderful career,

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Speaker 4: but I think the Steph Curry being present and playing

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Speaker 4: at the same time is going to completely overshadow whatever

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Speaker 4: trade is going to be a Hall of Fame. No,

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Speaker 4: he won't, Yes he will. You don't think Trey Young's

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Speaker 4: going to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: No. Ben Wallace was a Hall of Fame and he's.

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Speaker 4: Got championships, like three of them, like Big Time, Big

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Speaker 4: Time Basketball played by Ben Wallace. I think Ben Walls

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Speaker 4: has one title, maybe one, and that's more than one.

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Speaker 4: And he's like an eight eight point game score to

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Speaker 4: two titles. Yeah, but he rebounded and he played defense

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Speaker 4: also with the with the Basketball Hall of Fame as been.

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Speaker 4: As Ben Maller likes to point out, Muffett McGraw was

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Speaker 4: in UH is in the Basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 7: All right, we get the drums, we go, let's go

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Speaker 7: there we go.

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Speaker 2: How many championships has been Wallace one? I thought he

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Speaker 2: had at least two?

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Speaker 4: Is only one?

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Speaker 2: It's just one? Do you go four?

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Speaker 4: But didn't they get two or three?

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Speaker 7: And by the way, he was also he was no,

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Speaker 7: he was also at four time they went to one.

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Speaker 2: Young is already at that point. Maybe I wanted them

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Speaker 2: to win more. I really liked that team. They were

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Speaker 2: fun to. It was Ahawn Prince, Sayshawn Prince, Chauncey Billups,

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Speaker 2: Chauncey point Rip Hamilton. Yeah, the Wallace boys, Darko, I

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Speaker 2: have all their there. I have game warn sneakers from

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Speaker 2: all of them, Darko Milicic. I believe you would, but

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Speaker 2: he wasn't you would know Jonas would?

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Speaker 4: I think he? I think he drove Brady to the

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Speaker 4: studio this morning.

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Speaker 2: That's up for debate. I just I've never seen a

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Speaker 2: Russian Russian license plate in UH.

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Speaker 4: In America, the States. I mean, how does that clearly mentioned?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if I've been kidnapped, where are we going here?

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Speaker 8: that PJ he might have been.

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Speaker 2: I surely wasn't you know that.

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Speaker 4: What's funny about the going back to that Pistons team.

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Speaker 4: The only reason they took Darko in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, there we go now.

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Speaker 4: Is because Carmelo Anthony was there and they felt like

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Speaker 4: was I think it was Tayshawn Prince was the guy

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Speaker 4: was already there in Detroit, and they felt like, well,

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Speaker 4: well we'll draft by need and not my best, but

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Speaker 4: not by best available, and so they took Darko, who

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Speaker 4: never really mapped out or panned out. But it was

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Speaker 4: that Ultimately Detroit won the title and Carmelo didn't.

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Speaker 2: Ever win one. Yeah he's a Hall of Famer, Oh yeah,

665
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Speaker 2: he should be.

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Speaker 8: But if they would have drafted Tree Young, I don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's a Hall of Famer today. I

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Speaker 8: don't think he's a Hall of Famer for will be

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Speaker 8: by the end of his career.

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Speaker 10: Hm.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think it's.

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Speaker 7: Help to overcome that at the Wizards. I mean, especially

673
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Speaker 7: when you're getting objective.

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Speaker 2: From games you're not playing in.

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Speaker 8: Maybe I'm I mean, maybe I'm not trying to be

676
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Speaker 8: a hater, but maybe I am. I mean, maybe I

677
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Speaker 8: need to acknowledge the fact that I have. I don't

678
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Speaker 8: have any reason to hate him. I don't think that

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Speaker 8: there's no he's never been the guy in the league.

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Speaker 8: He's never been the guy like when you talk about

681
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Speaker 8: all of the guys like.

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Speaker 7: I mean for Atlanta he was at the time for Atlanta. Well, yeah,

683
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Speaker 7: trying to be a guy for a team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that doesn't make you a hot By by

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Speaker 4: the way, that's not the bar for for a Hall

686
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Speaker 4: of Famer in in the NBA. Just to be clear,

687
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Speaker 4: Like that's not the bar if that's what you're thinking,

688
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: this is it ain't that in the NBA. Yeah, if

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Speaker 4: Deon's not happy with the Hall of Fame credentials that

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Speaker 4: are currently in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, go

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Speaker 4: look at the NBA.

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Speaker 8: You never said, and you talk about the upper echelonce

693
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Speaker 8: of players in the league. His name is not a

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Speaker 8: name that pops like, it's not coming up he's had.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be an All Star that. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, that.

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Speaker 7: Is one league where when you were an All Star,

698
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Speaker 7: you're an All Star.

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Speaker 8: Like that does not say, that does not There are

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Speaker 8: a lot of All Stars that are not in the

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame, a lot a lot.

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Speaker 4: So if he gets to like eight or nine All Stars,

703
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: well that's a little different. That's a little four now. Yeah,

704
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 4: that's four is and that's not enough.

705
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: That's what Ben Wallace had. Yeah, but he has ring.

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Speaker 4: He has a ring ring.

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Speaker 2: He has a ring ring.

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Speaker 4: That still matters.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just saying you're making a case for

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00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: force not enough. You've just made a case for guys

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00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: in with four. That's different. There, there is different, different man,

712
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Speaker 2: He's twenty different.

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Speaker 4: It's different, twenty five people different, twenty having ten for

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Speaker 4: his career.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't see him as a Hall of Famer,

716
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Speaker 8: and y'all could be disappointed when he doesn't get that call.

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00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 8: Not today, He's not a Hall of Famer today for four.

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Speaker 4: Four all star pill putting a jacket on him right now.

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Speaker 2: Four at the Hall of Famer when it's all said

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Speaker 2: and done.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Okay, I guess we just see the world differently,

722
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 8: which is fine, and.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing the glasses have full, you know.

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Speaker 8: I guess, man, my glass is full. I don't need

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00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 8: it to be half full half empty. It's my my

726
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 8: glass is overflowing. But I just like to feel like

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Speaker 8: I live in reality, that's all. Well, I don't know

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Speaker 8: where y'all live.

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Speaker 5: Morning, what's up, guys, How are you hi?

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Speaker 2: P Hey, you survived the combine?

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Speaker 5: Man, I made it. I made it, you know, not

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00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: without a few you know, arguments football.

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00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: What happened?

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00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 7: We were Ben Johnson give you a shout out. Apparently

761
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 7: you're eckoing him about not kicking more field goals.

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00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean I tell them all

763
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 5: kick your field goals, you win games. And in that interview,

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00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 5: and then I talked to him afterwards, but in the

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Speaker 5: interview he said, well, we'll make more of them and

766
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 5: we'll convert you. And I said, you're never converting me. Ever,

767
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 5: I don't get I don't believe in it. I think

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Speaker 5: you get there's there's certain situations you could go for it,

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Speaker 5: but you don't need to go for it all the time.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, they always try and explain why

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00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 5: they do it after the fact, and look, I listened

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Speaker 5: to them, and I just don't agree with them. I

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Speaker 5: think there's if he had kicked field goals in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: probably would have won. If leam own that kicked his

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: field goals up ten nothing, probably would have won. If

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00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: Sean McVay had kicked the field goal to cut it

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00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 5: to one with instead of going forward and fourth down

778
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 5: late the game, probably would have won. And and then

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Speaker 5: there was one other one. I forget who the other

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Speaker 5: one was, but Denver, if Sean Sean Payton kicks his

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00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 5: field goal, he wins. So basically four teams eliminating the

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Speaker 5: playoff because the didn' kick field goals.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Let me let me ask you about the trade

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00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: with Montgomery. Did you do you like it? How do

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00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: you feel about it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Let me let me trade two draft picks for

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Speaker 5: a running back entering his eighth year. That makes a

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00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: lot of sense. I mean no, come on, okay, it

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00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: makes no sense to me. I mean there you can

790
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 5: find running backs in the fourth and fifth and sixth round,

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Speaker 5: and so why would you go trade picks for a

792
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Speaker 5: running back who's entering his eighth year in the league.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't you know, And a granted I get he

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00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 5: doesn't have a lot of tons of carries on his body,

795
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Speaker 5: but it's still you're you're going to be twenty nine.

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Speaker 5: You know you're getting too the witch hour of a

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00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: running back career. And I wouldn't trade draft picks for

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Speaker 5: any running back. So no, to answer your question.

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Speaker 8: I know we were made aware that you would pooh

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Speaker 8: pooh it because you think that running backs are come

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Speaker 8: a dime a dozen.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're not a dime a does and some are

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00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 5: better than others, there's no question about that. But by

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Speaker 5: drafting one, when you draft them, LeVar.

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Speaker 4: You're already okay, you're.

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Speaker 5: Already you're already on the clock for life expectancy of

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Speaker 5: that back in your in your in your program. Whereas

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Speaker 5: most of the time, if you draft a guy in

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Speaker 5: a different position, you're going to have him for at

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Speaker 5: least you're going to try to keep him for most

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Speaker 5: of his career. Look at look at the running backs

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Speaker 5: that have changed teams. I mean, they all change teams.

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Speaker 5: And I think when you look at it from that standpoint,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think you get bang for your buck

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Speaker 5: with the running back position. So that's why I wouldn't. Look.

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Speaker 5: There are certain cases where I would draft the running

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Speaker 5: back in the first round. If you're you know, if

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Speaker 5: you're sitting there and there's not somebody that in another

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Speaker 5: position of your need that you need to get that,

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Speaker 5: I can understand that. I just don't think in the end.

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Speaker 5: And look, I had a conversation with the Raiders and

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Speaker 5: you know, spy Tech. I said, look, I get it,

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Speaker 5: you drafted gent. I think he's a good player, but

824
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: guess the value of that position. I wouldn't do it.

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: And so there's always going to be the push back

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Speaker 5: on that. And I always, you know, reach back onto

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Speaker 5: the shelf and pull one off. That's what I do.

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Speaker 5: And all the guys in the running backs I work for,

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Speaker 5: they get mad, they work with they get mad at me.

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Speaker 5: I go, there's one right there, pull them off the shelf,

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Speaker 5: put them in there. You go, Okay, you're in go

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Speaker 5: run for one hundred and twenty, because that's basically what

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Speaker 5: it is.

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Speaker 4: Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Senior

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Speaker 4: NFL columnists for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analysts. You

836
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Speaker 4: can get them on next at Prisco CBS. Pete, what

837
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Speaker 4: was the wildest rumor that you heard about a potential

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00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: move while at the combine in Indie, whether it be

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00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: a draft, a signing, a trade, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if they're rumors. I think some

841
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 5: of the wildest things are facts, like Malik Willis is

842
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 5: going to get over thirty five the thirty to thirty

843
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 5: five million dollars a year in a contract in which

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 5: I think probably could happen.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna sayn that.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean, is

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00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: it going to be Arizona? I mean, is Arizona going

848
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: to allow Kyler Murray, who they don't want out the door,

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Speaker 5: to go pay Malik Willis? And I mean that that

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00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: to me is is Malik Willis better better than Kyler Murray? No, No,

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00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: And so I don't understand that. So that that's that's

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00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 5: one of the wildest things I heard. You know, then

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00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 5: then you have guys like I mean, I argument with him.

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00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 5: Chris Sims sent out a tweet saying, oh, look at

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Speaker 5: Milik Willis is going to be a superstar. And I went, Chris,

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00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 5: what are you talking about? Well, you don't, you know,

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00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 5: you don't know, you don't know. Same people didn't think

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00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes will be any good. And I go, no, no,

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Speaker 5: I was one of the guys that actually thought Patrick

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: Mahomes would be good. So you can't go there. And

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00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 5: he's like, and I go, I know, your dad can't

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00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: possibly think that Malik Willis is going to be a superstar.

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00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: He goes, oh, he thinks he's really good too, and

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00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 5: I go, oh too. Sims are wrong, man, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean, can I ask you about Daniel Jones, you know,

866
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 7: maybe staring at the franchise tag, but also in a

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Speaker 7: similar situation of what he was in New York.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this playing out? Just what do

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Speaker 2: you think of Daniel Jones? Is he deserving of that

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00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: tag or that long term deal?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think they're going to protect themselves by putting

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00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: the tag on it, whether it's the transition tag or

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00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 5: the franchise tag. They're going to try and protect themselves

874
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: to try and get more time if they can't get

875
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: a long term deal done with them today, that's what

876
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: I think they want to do. They want to keep him.

877
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: I think ideally he'd like to be there. And the

878
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: other thing is is you get put the transition tag

879
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: on him. Where's he going? Who's going to sign him

880
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 5: to a long term contract and then have the team

881
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: with the ability to match it. And some people have said,

882
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: well maybe Minnesota, but the Vikings don't have any money.

883
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: They're releasing veterans to try and get clear of the

884
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: cap as it is, so I don't know where he

885
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 5: would go. So I think this the mechanism for this

886
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: is to protect themselves as they work out a long

887
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 5: term deal, because if they can work out a long

888
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 5: term deal with him today, then they can put the

889
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 5: tag on Piers and I think that's that's what they'd

890
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: like to do. And again, remember this regime, they traded

891
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: two ones to go get Sauce Gardner, right, so they're

892
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 5: all in and everybody in the world knows Chris Ballard

893
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: needs to win now, so he's got to make sure

894
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 5: that he has this quarterback in place. And I think

895
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: he's got to make sure he keeps out Piers. So

896
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 5: I would think that if they don't get a long

897
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: term deal done with with Jones today, then they tag

898
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 5: him and then try and get a long term deal

899
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 5: done with him. But they're in their grand schemes. They

900
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: get both on them back.

901
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: As you're in that in your mind, what he's done

902
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: so far in Andy, what.

903
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: Jaron Achilles and break a leg? I mean, you know, well,

904
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: this is how desperate we are in this league right now,

905
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: is you've got a guy coming up in Achilles who

906
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: played with a broken leg, who's going to get probably

907
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: forty million dollars a year to play quarterbacks for you.

908
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 5: I mean what, we're desperate. And if you think about it,

909
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 5: they tested them aside with the Giants. They didn't want them.

910
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 7: See, he didn't change your mind at all last year

911
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 7: when he was playing and playing at high level.

912
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 5: You gotta give me more than seven ten games or

913
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 5: whatever it was. Brady, Come on, do you think he's

914
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: a forty million dollars year quarterback?

915
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 7: Well, look, I don't think milk should be as an

916
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 7: egg should be as expensive as they are. It doesn't matter,

917
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 7: it's what it costs, right Like we have the we

918
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 7: can have this philosophical debate.

919
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: All we won.

920
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 7: If you believe he's a franchise quarterback, which I think

921
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 7: Chris Ballard and Shane Steike can do, then they've got

922
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 7: to pay that price.

923
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: Well, okay, but I'm gonna go I'm gonna use the

924
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 5: New York Jets as example. What the hell are they

925
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 5: doing at quarterback? Okay? And and and so when you

926
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 5: look at the Jets.

927
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 7: Malik Willis, Daniel Jones, I don't know doing Go tank,

928
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 7: Go tank, place play play anybody and tank.

929
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 5: And then you go into the draft next year and

930
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 5: get all those draft picks and you go get yourself

931
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: a quarterback. But all your doing is delaying the inevitable

932
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: with those guys, that's all you're doing. You're not getting

933
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 5: to where you need to be. You're not getting a

934
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: franchise quarterback. So everybody thinks, oh, well, we can piece

935
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: it together and get a quarterback in there and win

936
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: nine ten games, and then then what then what? Then

937
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: you're stuck with the guy. And somebody said, well, they

938
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: could trade a second round pick for mac Jones, they

939
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 5: could trade a second round pick for you know, Beijing.

940
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 5: You can trade and then what happens, then you're stuck

941
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 5: with that guy. Now what if he plays okay, then

942
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 5: you're stuck with him now for the next decade. Give

943
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 5: me a break, What are we doing? Go Tank, go

944
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 5: into the draft next year and go get one of

945
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks.

946
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: Tank?

947
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: Can I follow up and ask you this question?

948
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: Pete?

949
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 7: On that note, I said this, I think it was yesterday,

950
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: and LeVar feels like I'm going out on a limb

951
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 7: here saying this. But I said, if Fernando Mendoza was

952
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 7: in next year's quarterback draft class, I'm not sure how

953
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 7: high he be ranked, Like, I don't know that he'd

954
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 7: be higher than maybe four five is somewhere in that ball.

955
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 7: I'm not quite sure because it's such a loaded class.

956
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 7: I've been into Combine before where I've heard the buzz

957
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 7: about future classes. Did you hear some of that at

958
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 7: this year's Combine?

959
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 5: No question about it. But but again, Brady, going into

960
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: this year, there was a lot of buzz about this

961
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 5: year's class at one point, remember I mean everybody, Yeah,

962
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 5: but that was.

963
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 7: Here's Here's what I'd say, is I never bought into that.

964
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 7: I like Leonora's like the Leonori sellers that there's a

965
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 7: number of players that I was.

966
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 5: Like tellers and nuts. Myyron wasn't any good, and you

967
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 5: were a big.

968
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 7: Nuts, my guy, and a lot of people, you know,

969
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 7: some of the quarterbacks that are throwing around, I didn't

970
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 7: see it. It's to me, it's this next year's class,

971
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 7: twenty twenty seven. I've said this all along. These guys

972
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 7: have heard it enough. But that's the class that I

973
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 7: look at and say, there could be five or six

974
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 7: guys to go in the first round.

975
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I'm with you, and you're talking about

976
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 5: Arch who probably will end up being number one. By

977
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 5: the way, I.

978
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 7: Would take CJ's Carr's odds over him right now. Well

979
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 7: you know what more might go over both of them.

980
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: No, No, Dante more your guy, Notre Dame. You got

981
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 5: the kid at usc You got the kid at UCLA.

982
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: If he's got broad talent. I mean, you know there's

983
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 5: that kid's big.

984
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Long but the kid I you, I mean, you could

985
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: go down the list.

986
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: There's a lot of Hoover the swordsby kid.

987
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 7: The kid in Miami this year. Darien Mens is going

988
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 7: to be an interesting prospect to watch.

989
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 5: I mean, by so so to answer your question, yes,

990
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 5: So that's why if you're the Jets tank tank, why

991
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: would you want to win?

992
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: Pete? Don't you don't you feel like that's kind of

993
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: what Miami and Arizona are doing though, too, because it

994
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: like you can't argue, like I don't want to hear that, well,

995
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 4: Miami's got a better option at quarterback or Arizona's got

996
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: a better option at quarterback other than those two. But

997
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: it feels like even if Miami's got a swallow ninety

998
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 4: nine million dollars in dead cap money, it just feels

999
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: like their decision to move on and not give it

1000
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: a go understanding nobody's probably going to trade for those

1001
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: guys and it's going to hurt him from a cap standpoint,

1002
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: seems to me like we've seen, we've seen everything we

1003
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: wanted to see from both these guys. If this year sucks,

1004
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 4: so be it even better. We'll just go get one

1005
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 4: of those quarterbacks next year.

1006
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: Correct, Which is why they'll play with quinn Ewers. And

1007
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: what they mean, would you rather play with quinn Ewers

1008
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: and get one next year or go pay Malik Willis?

1009
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: And the answer to that question I think is pretty obvious.

1010
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 5: You play with Quinn Ewers and then you go get

1011
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 5: one next year. That's what I would do in Arizona.

1012
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: If Arizona goes and pays Malik Willis, then they're not

1013
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 5: going to be one of those teams that goes against

1014
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 5: the quarterback next year. So you hear that maybe they

1015
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: like Jimmy Garoppolo as the stopcat guy. But again, all

1016
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: you're doing is delaying the inevitable. If you play and

1017
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 5: decide to pay journeyman quarterbacks, all you're doing is to

1018
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: laying in the inevitable. You got to get that guy.

1019
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: If you get that guy, then you're going to win

1020
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: games for a long time. If you get that guy,

1021
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 5: you're going to be able to supplement your roster around

1022
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 5: them and win a lot of games. Now, the Seahawks

1023
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: proved that you can win with another guy, but again

1024
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: they had one of the bad fetch Well.

1025
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Sam Darl's not a franchise guy now.

1026
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 5: He was a reclamation project. What are you talking about?

1027
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: I agree, you don't have a franchise guy. Now he

1028
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: just won a super Bowl. I agree with you.

1029
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 5: Pete, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer won super Bowls and

1030
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: Nick Foles won the greatest accident he's run in the

1031
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 5: history of the football league.

1032
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 7: So so, yeah, La Bar you might be a hater

1033
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 7: because he went too much with Pete Brad.

1034
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 8: Brad Johnson's a good pool was was Brad a franchise

1035
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 8: guy when Tampa won?

1036
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: No, he was a journeyman at that point, right, exactly

1037
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: who he was.

1038
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 5: Trent Dilfer was a journeyman when he won. Nickole Nick

1039
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: Foles was a journeyman when he won. It doesn't mean

1040
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 5: you're just because your team wins the Super Bowl doesn't

1041
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: mean you're a franchise quarterback. I means you won a

1042
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: super Bowl.

1043
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean you're a franchise What about Joe Flacco.

1044
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 8: The former Yeah, I mean Joe the way he wanted

1045
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 8: in Baltimore, he was a franchise quarterback.

1046
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I agree.

1047
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 7: What about Eli Manning, Yeah, franchise quarterback. Okay, I mean

1048
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 7: you're you're We're just trying to draw those see where

1049
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: you draw the line. P I mean some people think

1050
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 7: Eli Manning didn't have great regular seasons. He was just

1051
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 7: good in the playoffs.

1052
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: He's one of the top ten passers in yards and

1053
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: touchdowns Brady all time. I mean, what.

1054
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 7: About Mark Rippin but also that that's a sliding scale.

1055
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 7: Peet like Staffords is going to pass that number. You

1056
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 7: know there's other quarterbacks that are surpassing that. So you

1057
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 7: by the way about album.

1058
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 5: Until Tom Brady did, he was the only quarterback who

1059
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 5: came down, came from behind in the fourth quarter, down

1060
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 5: by a touchdown. He needs two games, I mean in

1061
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. So I mean, look, Eli Manning's a

1062
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 5: franchise quarterback picked by his team, played for his team,

1063
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 5: won super bowls for his team. Bouncing around from from We're.

1064
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 7: Just trying to see what you draw the line, because

1065
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 7: apparently you've got a hard time from the.

1066
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: Jets to Carolina to to Minnesota to Seattle doesn't make

1067
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 5: you a franchise height.

1068
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Are you going to take that from Brady Quinn? I

1069
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: didn't even bring up Danny Mourrino.

1070
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 8: Yet any more than you're going to take that from

1071
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 8: from Brady.

1072
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: You got to be a shamed to yourself. Oh man,

1073
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: he's ragging on you bad. You just handling it, man,

1074
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: You just you just taking it.

1075
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: Because I just I just tend to block him out

1076
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 5: because I know you.

1077
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: Don't work with you as much as I do.

1078
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: You don't get the right to say that.

1079
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 7: People don't even start with your yuck festival yuck yuck, yack,

1080
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 7: yuck yuk yuck yak.

1081
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1082
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 7: We we were trying to anticipate what you say about

1083
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones. I don't know if I had accurately described

1084
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 7: it to the boys, they'd have to tell you that.

1085
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 4: You are what you are there.

1086
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: It is you. I mean, just because you win the

1087
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: Super Bowl doesn't really change.

1088
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: I know we're just trying to stoke the flames of

1089
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: your fire, sir, But let me ask I.

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Speaker 5: Heard don't ever do that?

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Speaker 12: Oh wow, don't you talk about Teddy?

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00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: Don't you know?

1093
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 5: Not tell me like that talk Matt He never won

1094
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 5: a super Bowl, but you're gonna tell me Sam Darnold's

1095
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 5: in the same zip.

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Speaker 2: Come just relax, Pete.

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Speaker 7: Hey, you were at the Cobby though, And one of

1098
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 7: the things we're talking about too, is just it feels

1099
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 7: like it's losing its luster a bit, even coming off

1100
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Speaker 7: of a Comba where like everyone's supposed to ran the

1101
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 7: fastest forty yard dash time ever besides Cardinal Say. But

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Speaker 7: of course Adam Schefter came out and curious water for that.

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00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 7: But do you do you start to get a sense

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00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 7: that this is losing a bit of its luster. It's

1105
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 7: not really the gem that the NFL thought it would be.

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00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 7: For TV ratings and.

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: Attention, yes I do, and I think still for the

1108
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: medicals and the interviews, I think it's important. But on

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00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 5: the field stuff, these guys are player Empowerment's the thing. Now,

1110
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 5: they're gonna stop working out. I'm not gonna you know,

1111
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 5: why should I come here and do your workout when

1112
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: I can do mine at my pro day and be

1113
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 5: much more comfortable. And even then, if you're a player,

1114
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 5: what's to say? Players are not going to say I'm

1115
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: not working out anymore. I'm not gonna do it at

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00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: my pro day. I'm not going to do it at

1117
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: my combine. You're not the forty time on me, And

1118
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 5: see how that works out because they got to draft guys.

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00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 5: What if the whole group decided none of us are running,

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00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: none of us are going to run forties, none of

1121
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: us are going to bench press. You're gonna draft this

1122
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 5: off our tape. How about that? And see how the

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Speaker 5: league handles that. Because I think, and I'm in the minority,

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00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm not enamored by the forty times and the skills

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Speaker 5: and all the drills and everything else, because I think

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00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 5: football is what matters. There's been many a guy that

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00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 5: has run fast forty times who doesn't play fast. There's

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 5: been many guys Jerry Rice who didn't run a fast

1129
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: forty times, who played fast. He played fast, And you

1130
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 5: know what, when I remember I asked Jerry Rice once

1131
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 5: about that, he looked at me and he said, did

1132
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 5: anybody ever touch me from behind? And I said no?

1133
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: But he goes, well, there you go. And that's the

1134
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 5: bottom line. It's football. It's not drills. It's not you

1135
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 5: know what, if ruben Bain's arm had been half an

1136
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 5: inch longer, would there be any conversation about it? Not

1137
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: one bit? And so I think we get too caught

1138
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 5: up up in a lot of that stuff. And I

1139
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 5: think at some point we have to just go back

1140
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: and watch football players playing football, because that's all that matters.

1141
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: I like that Pete. That was very well stayed.

1142
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: It's true football guy right there.

1143
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 5: Do you think I should be a GM somewhere? Yeah.

1144
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 8: I don't know that it deserved GM attached to it,

1145
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 8: but it was well, it was well stated.

1146
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: You imagine that no one would be safe. I could

1147
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 2: guarantee that I would, well, you know.

1148
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 5: What, I'd have a lot of philosophies that most of

1149
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 5: these teams should adhere to.

1150
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: By the way, by the way, you want to hear

1151
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: a peach response to one of his detractors on social media.

1152
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 4: So Pete gave his thoughts on the David Montgomery trade

1153
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: and just tweeted out, trading picks for a back entering

1154
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: his eighth season is not something that would be on

1155
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: my Bingo card. And some guy responded nobody asked about

1156
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 4: your Bingo card, to which Pete responded, yet you responded

1157
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 4: new Bingo card, saying goodbye to idiots today. See you

1158
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: can yous?

1159
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: Did you block him?

1160
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 5: I block him?

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00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: Can you help Jonas? Please? What's that Jonas doesn't block?

1162
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 8: I think all of these people that live on his timeline,

1163
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 8: he should block them, like they're only relevance is sitting

1164
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 8: there and putting buffoonery on his timeline. I think he

1165
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 8: should block every I think by the time this segment

1166
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 8: is over, he should have already started blocking all of

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Speaker 8: the people.

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00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: That are on his timeline right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't do it.

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Speaker 5: Well, well, here's what you do. If somebody is just

1171
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 5: like if you having a disagreement with you. That's one thing.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's harassment.

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Speaker 5: If it's harassment, then you should block them all.

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00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's harassment.

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 5: Block them all. And then you say you tell him,

1176
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: you block him. And you know what's funny about that

1177
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 5: is when I do that to somebody, I can't tell

1178
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Speaker 5: you how many people chime in and go get Pete.

1179
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 5: You love it, kill them, see you goodbye. You know

1180
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: they love it. And so it became I don't do

1181
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 5: it as much anymore. I used to get nasty on

1182
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: there and block tons of people. But now if you

1183
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: you know, if you're just being an idiot, I'm gonna

1184
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: block there.

1185
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: Pete. I did want to ask you before we let

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: you go. It is uh, it is your time to shine.

1187
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: There's mock drafts. You're gonna do your draft grades when

1188
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: the draft does come around. Do you have I know

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00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: it's still a little bit early, but do you have

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 4: a bold take or a I guess, a unique take

1191
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: or prediction on the NFL draft coming up based on

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 4: your mock analysis thus far?

1193
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Speaker 5: Like where somebody's gonna go.

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's maybe a surprise, it might differentiate from

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00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 4: somebody else.

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 5: Not yet too early in that I got to wait

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Speaker 5: to free agency before I even do a mock draft.

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Speaker 5: I think these mock drafts that are done before free

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Speaker 5: agency are pointless, to be honest with you, I mean,

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Speaker 5: what do you put a guy in like a pass rusher,

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: and a team goes and spends forty five million on

1202
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: a pass rusher, you think they're still going to draft

1203
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 5: another one. I mean it's hard to do a mock

1204
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 5: draft without without being able to sit here and say, Okay,

1205
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: well this is what they need. So I won't even

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Speaker 5: do want ed to after free agency next week and

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Speaker 5: then I'll do a mock draft. But I'm gonna be

1208
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 5: on record of saying that I'm not drafted a safety

1209
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Speaker 5: in the top ten. Like everybody has downs going. I

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00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 5: just I'm not doing that. And so I again, I

1211
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Speaker 5: think this is a good safety class. I think there's

1212
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Speaker 5: a ton of safeties in free agency. And you look

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 5: at the teams who won Super Bowls in the last

1214
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: two years, just to name too. You look at the

1215
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 5: Notre Dame Kid Brady, your kid Julian. Where did Julian love?

1216
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: Where he came from? The Giant he came from?

1217
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Speaker 2: The Sorry, yeah.

1218
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 5: It came from the Giants, and then you got Kobe Bryant,

1219
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 5: who was a converted corner, a fourth round picked. Then the

1220
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Speaker 5: year before it was read Blanket Ship, who, by the way,

1221
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 5: it was an undrafted player, is now a free agent,

1222
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 5: and Chaunsea Gardner Johnson, who is a fourth round pick.

1223
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: You can get safeties, get the guys up front. So

1224
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Speaker 5: I'm not taking I think owns good player, a lot

1225
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 5: of good safeties in this draft. I'm not taking him

1226
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Speaker 5: at top ten.

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Speaker 2: What about a running back?

1228
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Speaker 5: Look, Jeremiah Jeremiah Love is a really good running back, Brady,

1229
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Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. I think he's explosive as hell

1230
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 5: and he has a lot to do, But I ain't

1231
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Speaker 5: taking him at the top ten.

1232
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Speaker 2: I think k Tron Allen is the best running back

1233
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Speaker 2: in the running in the draft.

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Speaker 4: You're a homer for pen hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 8: A second, Brady just brought up a Notre damer and

1236
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Speaker 8: I get the break, take.

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Speaker 4: Us the break, hold on, you know what, that's fine,

1238
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Speaker 4: that's fine.

1239
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: When every when did I see I didn't see it.

1240
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame running back, running back?

1241
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Speaker 5: Everybody loved the top ten pick.

1242
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Speaker 12: Alison, No, I did we know what you were implying,

1243
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 12: we know, we know what he well, he should be

1244
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 12: brought out.

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Speaker 5: Okay, isn't better than the backup running back at no is.

1246
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Speaker 2: Fat Man say Jari Jadarian is the second best running

1247
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Speaker 2: back in the draft.

1248
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Speaker 4: Pee, you don't think Alan would start at Notre Dame.

1249
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Speaker 5: Alan wouldn't start at Notre Dame.

1250
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Speaker 4: No, he said, he's not even the backup.

1251
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Speaker 5: Dame. You got I.

1252
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Speaker 2: Like that, admit that.

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Speaker 8: By the way, he's a former Penn State coach exactly.

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Speaker 5: B Notre Dame. By the way, I think he's a

1255
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 5: good plun to rate a player.

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Speaker 4: Also, I would say this when you're saying saying, don't

1257
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Speaker 4: take a running back top ten. Kansas City's picking at nine,

1258
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's picking at ten. You you mean to tell me

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Speaker 4: they wouldn't go Jeremiah Love if you sitting there with

1260
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to to help that offense and take some quarterback, Yeah, Cincinnati,

1261
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Speaker 4: And that's it's a pretty talented guy that's just sitting there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it feels like, especially Kansas City could use

1263
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Speaker 4: some help a running back. I don't know the last time.

1264
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Speaker 5: I think I think is going to pay a running

1265
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Speaker 5: back of free agency. I think they might pay ETN,

1266
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 5: which I wouldn't do either, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, all right, there we go. All right, Pete

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Speaker 4: always fun. We appreciate it and get him on X

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Speaker 4: at Prisco, CBS, Senior NFL comumnist for CBS Sports, CBS

1270
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Speaker 4: Sports HQ analysts, and our good buddy who checks in

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Speaker 4: every Tuesday here during the offseason.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Pete, you are what you are baby.

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Speaker 4: Thanks all right, So coming up next here on Two

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Speaker 4: Pros and a Cup of Joe, we are going to

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Speaker 4: continue the conversation and it's yours here on FSR