WEBVTT - Episode 421: The Same Questions Arise As The Mariners Struggle On The Road Again + Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>Open to episode number four twenty one of the Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Layer Podcast. It's a mailbag episode, so we'll open it

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<v Speaker 1>up and answer your best listener questions. Will also react

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mariners series lost to the Pittsburgh Pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it rolling and we welcome you to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Marine Layer Podcast, part of the Just

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Podcast Network. Recording here on Thursday evening, June twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>and another series where we watch the Mariners and we

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<v Speaker 1>see the same things again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you plan to talk about the Mariners on this episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually thought we were gonna do a de facto

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<v Speaker 2>podcast just talking about Team USA and the World Cup

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<v Speaker 2>hashtag Go Go Usa. As we're sitting here recording, they're

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<v Speaker 2>an extra time tied to t against Turkey. Go Go Usa.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're already I mean they're already advancing to

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<v Speaker 2>the next round. I thought this was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a de facto soccer podcast, so.

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<v Speaker 1>We wanted to talk about an exhibition match in group

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<v Speaker 1>stages against a team that's eliminated versus a team that's

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<v Speaker 1>already advancing, instead of the Seattle Mariners on a Mariners podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Just want to clarify.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I've gotten inspiration from this before for our friend

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Caravas, who, by the way, I know we said

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<v Speaker 2>we were gonna get him on this week. He has

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<v Speaker 2>been absolutely slammed. We are still working on it. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get him on at some point, So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting around for a Caravas interview, we will do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just still working out an exact time anyway. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember back in it was the pretty old days of

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<v Speaker 2>Section ten. They got so pissed off at one point

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<v Speaker 2>having to watch the Red Sox. It was in the

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<v Speaker 2>days of twenty twenty maybe twenty twenty one, that they

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<v Speaker 2>straight up just decided to become a fake Phoenix Suns

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<v Speaker 2>podcast for a couple episodes, and they just straight up

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<v Speaker 2>started talking about the Suns on a Red Sox podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>What team would we talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting here like I'm sitting here talking about Team USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Trusty scored his first goal of the World Cup, Burhalter

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<v Speaker 2>punch one in in the forty ninth minute. They gave

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<v Speaker 2>up two bad goals defensively against Turkey. But man, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say, I know they're playing a bunch of backups

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<v Speaker 2>here at Team USA, but they better figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a problem for me, Lyle. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago when the World Cup was

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. I'll tell you again. I can name like

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<v Speaker 1>I think off the top of my head. I know

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<v Speaker 1>one guy's name on Team USA, just I honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know the coach's name. I don't remember his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember he dresses kind of like a J

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<v Speaker 1>Preller dresses. He just so casual, lets his hair down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. It's not like he's coaching in the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>I might get his last name wrong, but isn't it Pokatino,

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<v Speaker 2>Mauricio Pocatino.

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<v Speaker 1>Pochatino? Sure? Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know do you know Antonio Freeman's son, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>who scored the two goals against Australia. Nope, well Antonio Freeman.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to my dad about this the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. Really good NFL wide receiver, like he had

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<v Speaker 2>a really good career, and now his son is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the stars at Temosa.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm learning so much. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you having more fun listening to this than talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Seattle Mariners and the way they just played

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<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just like all of our audience is probably

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<v Speaker 1>learning from this. Low I'm all also like I'm stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out of my host shoes right now and I'm becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a listener and listening to you do a podcast about TEAMUSA.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a little bit more about Team USA than you.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some friends that know a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know, like I know a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, they just lost, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Turkey just scored an extra time in stoppage time, Like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they still advanced no matter what, and Turkeys

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<v Speaker 2>still eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I literally I watch the match, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who's dribbling the ball, and I see them shooting, I

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<v Speaker 1>see them scoring. I go yay, all right. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just holistic. That's all you can get pretty much. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the striker who is really good, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the first game, I forget his name starts with a p.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh not not Freeman. No oh, maybe I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>my soccer. Wow, it's almost like this is a baseball podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I knew my soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really trying to stall to talk about what was

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<v Speaker 2>just an absolutely horrendous series in Pittsburgh. I know they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get swept, but it was there.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like it. If not for Cole Young, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's the most disheartening thing about this

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<v Speaker 1>Mariners series loss. It's not that the offense is not scoring,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think people came here expecting to hear us

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out about this Mariner's offense. They haven't scored more

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<v Speaker 1>than three runs in eleven games. Eleven games they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>scored three runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible. Oh, I'm an idiot, by the way, I blanked

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<v Speaker 2>on his name while we were sitting here to it

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<v Speaker 2>ball again, that's what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That is who I'm talking about. And he's really good,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the first match. Yeah, but it's not the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Letle I mean, it's not the offense I'm most disheartened

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<v Speaker 1>about because this Mariner's lineup, the way it's built, is

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<v Speaker 1>always meant to be streaky, and right now they're at

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<v Speaker 1>the valley of a streak. They score runs by hitting

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of home runs, and it just so happens

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<v Speaker 1>there were a stretch of eleven games where they have

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<v Speaker 1>the fewest home runs major League Baseball. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a huge surprise that they're not going to score any

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<v Speaker 1>runs in Pittsburgh when they're cold. That happens, the Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>lineup will eat up and they'll start scoring runs again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not something I'm that worried about, especially since they're healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that it just ticks me off about this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend is the same things popping up again, being a

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<v Speaker 1>huge reason why they lose. Can we just like list

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<v Speaker 1>off a few of them again on number one defense, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>base running, bad, Brian wool on the road, Like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Brian wool on the road is horrendous? Yeah, And he

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<v Speaker 2>was the one guy that was always neutralized on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the one guy who over the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years when some of these arms had issues away

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<v Speaker 2>from Seattle, Wu was always the one who didn't. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, his ra is well over six

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<v Speaker 2>on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>So much for his All Star game we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>last podcast. Yeah, nope, so we're to that outing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're down All Star wise, we're down to Julio, Randy, Bryce,

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<v Speaker 2>and Logan pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Brandy plays with him being apparently still a

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<v Speaker 1>little gimpy from the hamstring, which I'm not that surprised about,

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<v Speaker 1>But then we saw it pop up in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different instances with Randy, whether it be that defensive

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<v Speaker 1>play in left field that he had on Wednesday, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just it was just awful. It was just horrendously bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also just seemed kind of ginger going around

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<v Speaker 1>certain places. I'm not surprised that the Marritors put Randy

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<v Speaker 1>on the injured list when they said they saw more inflammation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he comes back after ten days off his

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring and he's not totally healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, yeah, I agree with everything you just said

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<v Speaker 2>there except the idea that he might not play in

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<v Speaker 2>the All Star Game. You think, in your right fucking mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Boris would let his client in a walk ear

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<v Speaker 2>not step foot on the biggest stage and play in

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<v Speaker 2>the Altar game. I think Scott Boris would rather let

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<v Speaker 2>his players not a qualifying offer before that.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean. I mean the goal for Randy

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<v Speaker 1>is to get to free agency and get paid, not

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<v Speaker 1>playing an exhibition game.

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<v Speaker 2>You think Scott Boris doesn't want to remind everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest stage that one of his clients is in

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<v Speaker 2>his walk ear in an All Star game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he'll be All Star game, does not. No

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<v Speaker 1>one is signing Randy Rose Arena based off an All

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<v Speaker 1>Star game. You know it's not gonna get Randy paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he pulls his already injured handstring in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>that is what doesn't get Randy paid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about performance in the game, It's about the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Boris himself is all about theater. He wants the

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<v Speaker 2>stars on his clients. He wants Randy out in Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>walking the red carpet, letting everybody know that he's flashy

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<v Speaker 2>and in the walk here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an All Star.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, even if he even if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>play in the game, and I bet you if he

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<v Speaker 2>gets in he will, he will be in Philadelphia, walking

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<v Speaker 2>the right carpet and doing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's almost no doubt he can go. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's physically playing in the game anything that requires

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity. I don't think Randy is doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's playing in regular season games right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean he's gonna play in the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star Game. Again, it's an exhibition.

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<v Speaker 2>I am gonna wager that he is playing in the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game if he makes it. That is my

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<v Speaker 2>personal belief. He will play.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you and I see this differently. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>if Scott Borris hears that Randy rose Aren is not

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent going to play in an exhibition game,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care which exhibition game it is, He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say no. I mean, the dude pulled Tarek Scouoble off

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<v Speaker 1>of Team USA in an instant. Isn't that pretty good marketing?

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't have him, but no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>But but he pulled him off. Did he have Trek

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<v Speaker 3>Scoogle straight up not pitch in the WBC or did

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<v Speaker 3>he have the theater where he's popping at him around

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<v Speaker 3>and made the one start and then he pulled him out?

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<v Speaker 1>Randy A.

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Array, We'll be walking the red carpet in Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>if he makes it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying playing in the game, Ah, he will.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give two shits about the red carpet. He

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<v Speaker 1>will be taking it at bat. Randy Rose Reena could

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<v Speaker 1>be doing backflips down the red carpet for all I care.

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<v Speaker 1>He will. Just don't want him stepping on the field

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<v Speaker 1>if he in any way still is nursing that hamstring injury,

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<v Speaker 1>because the last thing the Mariners need right now with

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<v Speaker 1>the current state of their offense is an injured Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Rose reina for an extended period of time because he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get any time to actually heal his injury. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what Julio did last year, very smartly said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm not in the right mind space to

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<v Speaker 1>play in the All Star Game. I'm not going. And

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<v Speaker 1>what did Julio do? Well, he had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>second half. It's good it worked out for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was under a big contract and who isn't Julio.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Randy is not. But I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>contract matters at all for the All Star Game. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think we need to get this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star Game out of our mind.

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<v Speaker 2>He will take he will take one at bat in

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<v Speaker 2>the All Star Game, And that is my take.

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<v Speaker 1>There has never been an instance where an All Star

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<v Speaker 1>Game gets a player paid. You know, it gets Randy

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<v Speaker 1>rose Rain a payton. When Scott Boris pulls up his

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<v Speaker 1>baseball reference page and says, man, look at that slash line. Hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see that that says thirty steals, that says

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<v Speaker 1>thirty home runs? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Randy so well, I think you are underplaying the theater part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. He will take one at bat and he

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<v Speaker 2>will be there. He might not play the field, but

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<v Speaker 2>again he's currently active, not on the il, playing in games.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Randy is going to sit out an

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Game. I just don't think that's who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's who Scott Boris is.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll have to find out anyway. We just

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<v Speaker 1>we could just speculate from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that was a fun conversation that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect to have, But that is my take.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mariners had a miserable series. Miserable, that's that's to

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<v Speaker 1>put it lightly. Oh was I done with my list yet?

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<v Speaker 1>So I did base running, I did defense, which are

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<v Speaker 1>two classics. Brian Woop Brian wu pitching on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>which is been really bad this year. Oh well, we

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<v Speaker 1>had our we our series. It happens every series. Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Refsnyder hitting in the biggest situation of the game some

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<v Speaker 1>odd reason, like the Mariners are stuck in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>today here on Thursday, where I mean, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lose lose and this this come down comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>roster construction, where in the biggest at bat of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>with the bases loaded, the Mariners are either gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Rayley face a lefty who has h entering today

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<v Speaker 1>had a negative eight WRC plus for the month, was

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<v Speaker 1>ice cold hasn't hit lefties this season, Or you have

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst hitters in baseball and Rob Refsnyder

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<v Speaker 1>coming off the bench. What should the Mariners do forfeit?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Victor Roblays was on the bench, although he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been great either.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a lose, lose, lose situation for the Mariners,

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<v Speaker 1>But any regardless, the situation gets presented to them and

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<v Speaker 1>a key part of the game, Refsnyder is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who takes the at that and then he shockingly does

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<v Speaker 1>not get a hit. But I can't even blame Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Refsnyder at this point. Lyle like, we all know he's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. He knows he's not good. Why is he

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<v Speaker 1>still here?

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest, man, if people are frustrated about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you are, you are totally warned for feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that way. I think we got a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>Refsnider talk out on Monday's episode, because yes, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>more is there to say about Rev Snider's performance. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>knows we're halfway through the season and he's not hitting

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<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form. But if you're still

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<v Speaker 2>angry about it, look, we have plenty of problems with

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Wilson on basically a weekly basis, But unfortunately, like

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<v Speaker 2>TJ said, there's not really a winning situation here in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what to do in that scenario. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that straight up does not want to see

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<v Speaker 2>ref Snyder ever hitting in those bats, well, then your

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<v Speaker 2>issue goes higher than the coaching staff. It's up in

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<v Speaker 2>the front office, because as long as Rob Refsnyder is

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<v Speaker 2>on the roster, he's gonna be attempted to be deployed

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<v Speaker 2>in situations the best fit his skill set, even if

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<v Speaker 2>his skill set has not showed up all year. But

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<v Speaker 2>as long as he's on the roster, they're gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to use him in situations like that. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>him off the roster, you gotta take him off the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to take Dan Wilson's toys away. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is a job for the front office. It's like that

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<v Speaker 2>scene in Moneyball, right when Art Hall won't stop playing

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<v Speaker 2>Carlo's Paynia at first base and Billy Bean wants Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Hadiberg in there, and he walks into Arthouse office one

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<v Speaker 2>day and he's playing the mind games with him. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't start Paynia at first tonight. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to start Hadiberg and Art House like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen rounds Billy, A lot of cards mine and that's final,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cards all yours. I'm just saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't start Paynia at first. I am starting Paynia at first,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so he plays for Detroit. Now. That's

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<v Speaker 2>essentially what has to happen here. The front office is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to walk down there and be like, can't

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<v Speaker 2>start rep Snider tonight? And Dan's like, well, uh, I

0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.960
<v Speaker 2>am starting Repsnider. I don't think so. He's on waivers now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's up to them to make the roster move.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as repsiders on the roster, whether you like

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, the coaching staff's probably gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>use them at certain points.

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<v Speaker 1>For a Mariner's front office, that really last year did

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<v Speaker 1>I thought pushed all of the right buttons when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to how they not how they built the roster

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like it being a perfect roster, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was not. If it was a perfect roster, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have won the World Series. But at least it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like for the most part, they operated with a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that they were doing what it took to win

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<v Speaker 1>every single game possible. But now there's two instances on

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<v Speaker 1>this roster where guys are still in their current roles

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<v Speaker 1>that I just don't think are making the Mariners better,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Mariners are making themselves worse by trotting these

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<v Speaker 1>players out there in these situations that I don't really understand.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say last year you thought the front office made,

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, pretty sound moves. You're not counting

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<v Speaker 2>that they were given a fifteen million dollar budget in

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<v Speaker 2>the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's an owner's thing. Oh, that was an owner's thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I meant in season last year. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different for Rowdy's Talez and Donovan Solono because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>making as much money. But when do the Mariners move

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<v Speaker 1>on from Donovan Solana?

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<v Speaker 2>Last wasn't dude, It wasn't until about August. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, if you want to one up another in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the loyalty thing, remember how long it took

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<v Speaker 2>him to move on from Dylan Moore. Remember how we

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<v Speaker 2>talked Remember last year when there was a point in

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<v Speaker 2>the year where we extrapolated a three month stretch for

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Moore against lefties where the man was straight up

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<v Speaker 2>not batting average, but opsing won forty against left handed

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<v Speaker 2>pitching for over a three month stretch, and they continued

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<v Speaker 2>to like let him play, and we started to make

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<v Speaker 2>jokes about could Felmen Celestine and High Everett current or

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<v Speaker 2>in high A Everett currently put up one for ops

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<v Speaker 2>against lefties in the big leagues versus Dylan Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember all that, Yes, I did. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a that was a fun one. Man. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>it was even later than you said, Lyle. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get defeated until September first.

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<v Speaker 2>So they waited a long time with both Dylan Moore

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<v Speaker 2>and Solano.

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<v Speaker 1>But Solana wasn't playing by the time they got to August.

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<v Speaker 1>His role of the his role on the roster was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much null by the by the trade deadline. But

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<v Speaker 1>even and Solana was not this bad Demo. So Demo

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<v Speaker 1>was playing. But Demo also like he didn't play it well,

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<v Speaker 1>but he technically played infield and outfield. Yeah, like he

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<v Speaker 1>had something. Rob Refsnyder is a d H who happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the five worst hitters in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 1>They might hang on to him until the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just don't I don't see why. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see how that makes this team better. I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather have Connor Joe Up who gives you more versatility

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<v Speaker 1>in the field and is bet even though he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great hitter. The ball for beating what refsnyders give

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<v Speaker 1>me out the plate is zero. Yeah, it's literally zero.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I let me give the front office some

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<v Speaker 2>credit here, because, yes, the Dylan Moore thing really drove

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<v Speaker 2>me nuts toward the end of last year. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>right they did, for the most part, push almost all

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<v Speaker 2>of the right buttons throughout twenty twenty five. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to skew that they were not given a serious

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<v Speaker 2>budget last offseason, and then with what they were given

0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:31.360
<v Speaker 2>to work with, they they made pretty sound moves. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the Leotie Taveras thing didn't go well, but that's an

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<v Speaker 2>example if they moved off that quick they realized, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we might've eaten a bit of his contract, but this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't working.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta let him go, and then they they eat

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<v Speaker 1>about the same amount of Rob Refsnider's contract right now

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<v Speaker 1>if they let him go.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why again, I do think last year, for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, they were pretty sound outside of a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things the front office, but I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why in the world are they still letting this whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing linger and hang around. Why do we think they

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<v Speaker 2>optioned Conor Joe over the Refsnider move.

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<v Speaker 1>On one answer, because he has an option.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he wasn't great in the last home stand either.

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<v Speaker 2>He took some tough at bats, But to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like he's got more versatility because he can

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<v Speaker 2>play a little bit more in the field than refsnider

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<v Speaker 2>ken and he's the right handed bat.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just hits better. Like at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, like Connor Joe's WRC plus on

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<v Speaker 1>the season is seventy seven Rob Refsnyders, I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>it's fifty points lower. That's probably a forty nine points

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<v Speaker 1>lower right now. That's a huge, huge difference. That's the difference, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference between I don't have a good comparison

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but fifty points is enormous. That's fifty that's

0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty percentage points to average. I'll give you one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's essentially the difference between Cole Young and Matt Olsen.

0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Or you could do Cole Young and Dom can Zone

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<v Speaker 1>on the same roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Cam zone's a platoon bat. I'm trying to maybe

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 2>that's a better example because we're talking about platoon bats,

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 2>so sure, Cale Young, the canzone might be a better example.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge it's a huge difference, so that that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff really just kind of kind of baffles man. Louis

0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Castillo didn't even pitch in this series, yet he still

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 1>comes up and he's still relevant because that's the decisions

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>this front office has made for now. And we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>Louise pitch this weekend in Cleveland, and he will get

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<v Speaker 1>a full start. He will be piggybacking. He will get

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a full start this weekend. What else from this Pirate series?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, how do I want to say this?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it. I'll just say how Mike Sulk said

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it this morning when I was listening to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally it's the exact same thing. I was thinking.

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I know, you and I we were talking about this

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just feels sleepy. It feels like when we're watching this series,

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 1>like like, yeah, I jokingly expected them to win it

0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>because they've been winning series and then losing series, and

0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>then winning series and then losing series, and it's been

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same thing. Because they've been so inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just watch the series and it's like just

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of what it feels like. And I kind of

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>felt that when we were at the park this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>as well against the Red Sox. I mentioned to you

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<v Speaker 1>how like kind of sleepy the atmosphere felt, and I

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure if that was just me or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching that Pirates series, that's definitely how

0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it felt.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, they couldn't score more than three runs. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done it in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like that. And man, there are a lot of

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 2>guys struggling right now. I gotta tell you, there really are.

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 2>The month of June has not been kind to most

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<v Speaker 2>of this lineup.

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.239
<v Speaker 1>The Mariners lineup. The way it's constructed right now is

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so odd. If you look on fangrafts, they have

0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>seven everyday players who have a WRC plus above one hundred,

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.119
<v Speaker 1>and yet they can't score runs.

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But here's where it's at with a bunch of these

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 2>guys for the month. Cal Raley entering Thursday is right

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 2>at one hundred. I think after today it's gonna dip

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.640
<v Speaker 2>below that. But the rest of it, Man, Colt Emerson

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four WRC plus, Julio seventy one WRC plus, Mitch

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Garver forty four, Rob Refsnyder thirty four, Victor Roblaze twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and Luke Rayley is at negative eight for the month

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<v Speaker 2>of June. Luke Rayley, we know he gets hot and cold,

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 2>but this is pretty nuts the stretch he's been on

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<v Speaker 2>in June.

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<v Speaker 1>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>He was scorched earth hot at the start of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately now as we sit here as of this

0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>morning on June twenty fifth, Luke Rayley for the month

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 2>of June had a three thirty five OPS.

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Luke Raley kind of epitomizes this offense like he puts

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 1>up most of his production by hitting home runs. That's

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the best thing. He does. Hits for a decent average,

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.720
<v Speaker 1>but he's got a ton of power, and his power

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>goes away almost right in line with the Mariners not

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>scoring any runs, and you look up and down like

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.879
<v Speaker 1>this is the lineup has a bunch of above average

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>players in it, but they don't hit with runners in

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>scoring position, which means to score runs they need to

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>hit home runs, and in that stretch they've only hit

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>seven home runs in eleven games. Yeah, it's gonna be

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit hard to score. And oh, by the way,

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 1>your young guys have not been quite as hot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you had the cold young moment on Tuesday, which was

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>really cool and really fun. I Cole Emerson. This month

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<v Speaker 1>has been really really really cold at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, and part of that's expected. This is what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does. And I'm not like trashing on Colt

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but he does take up one of the

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 1>nine lineup spots for a team that has scored three

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>runs or less and eleven consecutive games. And we're begging

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to be consistent and go on and go on a stretch,

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and like when when the team is gonna Like when

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is it this team gonna click? Because we've reached the

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>halfway point and they've not clicked. We've not seen the

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>best version of this team yet. When are we going

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>to see the best version of this team? It's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not what we saw this week at Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope it's a win and not an if. I'm

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 2>starting to wonder if there's an if to this, because

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you're well, if it's.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 1>An if, then this team's just not good enough.

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, man, I had my questions all off

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>season about what happens when you're sixty homer catcher doesn't

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.639
<v Speaker 2>hit sixty homers anymore. Nobody thought cal was gonna hit

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>like this. Let's be clear. I think everybody thought he'd

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>regress a bit naturally, but I don't think anybody thought

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>he'd deal with the injury, and anybody thought he'd struggle

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>like this because he's never done this in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that being said, I always wondered what happens when

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.239
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a sixty home run catcher. Now, not

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 2>only do you not have a sixty home run catcher,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got your highlight acquisitions of the offseason, putting

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<v Speaker 2>up a negative war for the year in Josh Naylor,

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>barely been on the field in Brendan Donovan, and then

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 2>paired with Julio having a brutal June. Colt's now struggling

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 2>here in June, Raley struggling in June. The point being, like,

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the three main stars in your lineup are all having

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 2>underwhelming offensive seasons, juliocal Naylor, that's what your team's built around.

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And if those guys aren't gonna hit it's hard to

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>go much of anywhere.

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>By the way, how do you get this back on track?

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's the million dollar question.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Be patient, no, man, I mean this has been Josh

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Naylor most of the season. And Naylor's hit better in June.

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>He's got a one to twenty two WRC plus for

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>the month, so he has hit better this month, but

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the overall numbers for the year still aren't otherworldly.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.919
<v Speaker 2>And we know we struggled on defense this year all

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden. So yeah, it's been it's been a

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>sluggish go. And by the way, at the well now

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>more than halfway point through the season, because they're sitting

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>forty one and forty one eighty two games in, they're

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 2>still at five hundred. After having the best World Series

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>odds preseason in the American League, they haven't scored more

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>than three runs in a game in two weeks. By

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the way, this Pirate series, we're like twenty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>into the podcast and we haven't even mentioned for all

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the headaches and brutal play we saw over the course

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>of the series, we haven't even mentioned the Pirates didn't

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>roll out their best team. You didn't have to see

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Paul Skeins. You missed them in the rotation. You didn't

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>have to see Connor Griffin who's injured. You didn't have

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to see O'Neil Cruz, who's been mashing this year but injured.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Horowitz only played about a game and a half,

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 2>so the Pirates leadoff hitter wasn't really in there. And

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>then you didn't have to face a left handed starter.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this was like a tailor made series for

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the Mariners, and they still looked brutal.

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Who do the Mariners face tonight? Oh?

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>And Bubba cham Or you mean on Friday? Oh, on

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Friday Friday? Oh, Tej, I got good news. Joey can't

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>tell a lefty. Joey can't tell against Luis Castillo. Listen,

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 2>you can't online sports bet in Washington. But if there's three,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean not gambling advice, but I feel like the

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Guardians might win that one.

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I'd say so too. Yeah, well it depends where's Rob

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Refsnyder hitting in the lineup.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's gonna be in there. It's a lefty.

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>What a frustrating series. We could go on and on

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and on and on about this, but it's I'm just

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to get fed up, Like.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>There's I'm like the season as a whole, man, That's

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, best World Series odds preseason, and you're

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 2>five hundred now more than halfway through the season. By

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the way, offensively as a whole, they're twenty second in runs,

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth. Then team ops like this has not been

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>a good offense.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>You're combining a bottom third offense with a really inconsistent

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>pitching staff and a bullpen that is thinned out due

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to injury and pitching a man down, and a team.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 2>That's awful on the margins defensively, base running, dugout, decision making.

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, there's a reason this has been maddening

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 2>through the first half, and unfortunately, in terms of looking

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>for reinforcements for it to get better, we might haven't

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 2>fully fully stamped and decided yet, but we may do

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.959
<v Speaker 2>a trade deadline preview here this upcoming week, And if

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>we do, I'll just give you a quick glimpse right now.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 2>There are not a lot of right handed bats out there.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>There is not a bigger glaring need for this team

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>than a right handed bat, and there are not a

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>lot of right handed bats that are going to be available.

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>If you're dreaming on Byron Buxton, good for you. I

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>hope it happens, but I wouldn't hold your breath and

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>past him.

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Oof.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll get into it more when we get to it.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>It depends how the series goes this weekend. If we

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>need topics to talk about besides ranting about the Mariners,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>then we'll probably talk about some trade targets because people

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to just listen to us complain the whole time.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>No, but again, this is getting This is getting real

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>tough to watch as we near the end of June.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>There are way underperforming expectations. There are problems across the

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>board in all three phases of the game. You've got

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>injuries your stars, and they're still.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>They're still up in the division somehow.

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, which is amazing because the aos is as bad

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 2>as we've ever seen it.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But imagine what the sentiment would be if there was

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a team in this division just like eight games above

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and the Mariners are facing like a six

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>game deficit heading into the All Star break. With the

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>talent on the roster and the expectations, you'd be like this,

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like this, this isn't acceptable.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I still don't think it's acceptable.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I know they're in the first place in the division.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Now it might be even louder than it currently is.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure, but it's almost by default they're in first place

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>because nobody's taken grasp of this division. Yeah, well, I

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>think by the way, let me let me be very

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>clear on something here. I know the Mariners currently lead

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the division, but this idea that they can just continue

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to coast like this is not right because you look

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 2>at the Al West man, the Astros are a game

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and a half out, the A's are a game and

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a half out, the Rangers are a game and a

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>half out. If somebody catches fire for ten days like,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you're in trouble. If you don't turn this thing around.

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Big trouble. And if they're staring up at a division

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>deficit as loud as we think the complaining is right now,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it will be much much worse because there is no

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way this roster should lose the Al West, no way.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>It's there's too much talent on this roster for this

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>team to lose to the other four teams in this division,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>who are frankly not as good in most areas. So

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<v Speaker 1>slash Marine Layer Pod. Rob on Patreon asks what will

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry set the ask Price to send Kirby to the

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Mets so that they can offer the Mets can offer

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>their fans a feel good homecoming story and give the

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Maritors some potential additions to the roster here at the

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>trade deadline.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's a nice thought for Mets fans. It's

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 2>a nice thought. The problem is, I don't think the

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Mets match up well with the Mariners in terms of

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 2>a trade partner. If you look at what the Mariners need,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>they need right handed bats, and unfortunately the Mets are

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty left handed heavy. You look through potential players that

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>might interest the Mariners in terms of young, controllable bats

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Carson Benge, aj Ewing, etc. They're all lefties. And then

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>all their high paid guys aren't gonna go anywhere, Like

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>obviously we're not gonna bother talking about Soto. I don't

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>think the Mariners would want a shed at this point.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Alvarez right handed hitter, but catcher. Mariners don't need

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to catch her. So the only guys that really all

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden fit into that bucket are their young

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>pitch like Nolan McLain. But if the Mets were gonna

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>trade for a pitcher. I don't think they give up

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 2>a young pitcher.

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>What if the Mariners asked for Jonah Tong and Devin

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Williams for George Kirby. So Jonah Tong is right now

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the mets number one prospect. He was lining the pitching

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>world on fire last year in the minor leagues before

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he came up. This year's been a little bumpier for him,

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>but he really did show out last year. He had

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>excellent stuff. And then Devin Williams for where the Mets

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>are at right now. Since the Mets are really down bad,

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>they don't really need a bloated reliever contract, so they

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>offload that and then they give up their top prospect

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>to the Mariners for two years of George Kirby. Maybe

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it costs another prospect on top of that, but it's

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>an idea.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Devin Williams is so fascinating man, and it's why we

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>were so fascinated with him in the offseason. His savant

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>page has so many aspects that are just off the chart.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's also the second year in a row where

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the actual results haven't been there, So how do you

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 2>balance that multiple years in a row of tough results

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 2>but looking at his profile and saying, God, he strikes

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 2>out a ridiculous amount of guys. He gets so much chase,

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't get hit hard.

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Mariners need results at this point,

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about a couple of years of results

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>with Devin Williams where it hasn't been there.

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>At this point, you trade for him and you cross

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>your fingers that you get two good months out of

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Devin Williams. But I know you got to deal with

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the years after. But this year is what matters right now.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 2>But is that what you want to get back for

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 2>George Kirby. I almost feel like you'd be selling yourself short.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'd rather get Trek Scubaele back, but that's a

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 1>different discussion. We're just talking about the Mets, right.

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>But if you have two and a half years of

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Kirby and we're to trade him this second, like the

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 2>mail bag question is insinuating, I feel like you can

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 2>get a better, young, controllable bat for Kirby than what

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the Mets have to offer, hitting wise or pitching wise.

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I just think the Mets don't line

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>up well as a trade partner for this.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.799
<v Speaker 1>We texted our friend Draftnick Mark this question and asked

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>him who would who would be available for George Kirby,

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and it sounded like most people on the Mets, which

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't a really good side when you're trading for a team.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I asked Mark, like, could you could you get their

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>top three prospects for George Kirbey said, oh, yeah, but.

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>By by prospects, he means tongue, and he means Rhymer,

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and he means Clifford guys like that. And by the way,

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>guys like Clifford and Rhymer aren't in like pipeline or

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.399
<v Speaker 2>just Baseball's top one hundred. They're further down. Those are

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.479
<v Speaker 2>just the Mets top prospects. So in reality, I don't

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>know if the return value really matches up there. And

0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 2>then when Mark says prospects, he means guy that have

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>not debuted yet. So if your idea is, oh, well,

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>trade for Carson Benge or trade for aj Ewing, the

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Mets aren't gonna give up those guys for Kirby.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think so either, So it's not the

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Mets are not a great trade target, which is again

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:18.959
<v Speaker 1>why this trade deadline is gonna be maybe a little

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>frustrating for meritors fans because these sellers don't have any

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>slam dunk, not as many slam dunk options for the

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>team to go out there and get right. Next question

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>comes from Michael on Patreon. Bear with me, Michael. I

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate the question, honestly, not sure how I'm supposed

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to read it. It's a Field of Dreams reference, and

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it essentially comes down to like asking about the quote

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>from I believe from Kevin Costner in the movie. No,

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he'sid No.

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not from Kevin Costner. It's not from Kevin Costner.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 2>It's from James Earl Jones. It's from Terrence Man. You'll

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 2>you'll learn soon enough.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I watch the movie. Oh update for the people.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I will watch the movie this weekend. Wow, did I

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>misread this question? No TG. In the movie Field of Dreams,

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Man, the reclusive author Ray played by Kevin Costner,

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>seeks out delivers a famous monologue about why people will

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>come to the field. What is the quote? Quote? The

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>one constant through all the years Ray has been baseball.

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>It reminds all of us that once that once was good,

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and that could be good again. Oh was that right?

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe Michael jumbled some of the words a little

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>bit because that quote is James Earl Jones. That's Terrence

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Mann is the name of the guy in the movie.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>He would know that if I watched the movie.

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, you'll you'll learn here it's soon enough and then

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna watch the movie and be like, wow, I

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.479
<v Speaker 2>really should have watched this before I saw the Field

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of Dreams in person.

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I think. I think it's a win

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that I got to see it in person first, and

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>then I can appreciate the cornstocks that will be in

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the movie that weren't there when we visited.

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was unfortunate. Luck Yeah, they had too much

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>rain in the spring, but that's what they said when

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 2>we got there. They had too much rain and the

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 2>crops didn't stay. But yeah, the one constant through all

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>the year's ray has been baseball. I mean, there's a

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>lot more to it than that, but that is James Earl.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Jones in the movie Great Darth Vader.

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 2>He is very much Darth Vader.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, thank you for the question. Michael, always appreciate it.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>The next question comes from Eric on Patreon. Eric's question

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>is what the hell Mariners? Yeah, I ain't got much.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I think the statement's totally valid, and I think we'll

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>just leave it at that, like, figure it out, get

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>it going.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much what we let this podcast episode off with,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, it's been about eighty two games worth of

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly that. Caden on Patreon asks is it time to

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>trade Castillo because it's clear he won't go to the bullpen?

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's more the Mariners haven't asked him

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 2>to go to the bullpen, rather than Luis refuses. Do

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you think that conversation's really been had. I guess it's

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>possible and they don't want to air it out, but

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that conversation hasn't happened.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put it past a big league picture to

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>refuse to go to the bullpen, but I just don't

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's much leverage in this situation. Right.

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>My whole thing, well, my whole thing is what does

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>refuse mean? If the Mariners really decided they wanted to

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>go with a five man rotation, they'd sit him down

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, I'm the team, I'm the manager, you're

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the player. This is how we're managing our roster. You

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 2>will not be starting every fifth day anymore. If the

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.959
<v Speaker 2>Mariners wanted to have that conversation, I think they would

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.760
<v Speaker 2>have had it by now. Luis can't just force himself

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to start in a game. I think the Mariners haven't

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 2>asked them.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>What it feels like to me is that they're waiting

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for him, at least now, to offer to go to

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the bullpen. I don't think he's gonna do that, but

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna do that. I don't think

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do it either, but I guess from everything

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>we picked up that's kind of what it sounds like.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Because he is a leader in that clubhouse and especially

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>among that pitching staff, so there is still some role

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>for him to lead. So none of the other starters

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>are gonna say, yeah, Louis, you got sorry, you got

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to go to the bullpen now. They're not gonna do that,

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>not to him, So it's totally up to him to

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the bullpen. And I'm clearly that he's not

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in the bullpen. I think if he offered to go

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>pitch in the bullpen, he'd be in the bullpen right now,

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and the Manners would have a five man rotation, but

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't. But I don't think that's Luis's job.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It's on the team to sit him down and say, hey,

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, our five starters are pitching better than you,

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>You're going to the bullpen.

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent agree with you. Like decision makers

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>need to make decisions, and then the players play like

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that's why everyone has their role, Like I don't.

0:43:56.120 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>If they're waiting on Luise to wait and tell them

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>he'll go to the bullpen, then that's absurd.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I think the Mariners just haven't had the conversation. And

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>if they want to move him to the bullpen, and

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people out there want to see that.

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Then the Mariners need to tell him.

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 2>They need to sit them down and tell him there's

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>no refusal. You're not the manager, you're the player. I

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>know you might not be happy about it, and I

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>know you're making a lot of money, but if you're

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>not performing, you're not performing.

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And then to the first part of this, as we've

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>talked about a bunch with a Castillo trade, I just

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>don't see how it happens. His stock is at an

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>all time low right now and he's owed a ton

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of money. I don't know if there is a team

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 1>out there that would take on Luis Castillo for any

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of return that the Mariners would accept. I mean,

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I think the Mariners would see more value about having

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Louis Castillo as like starting pitching depth or a bullpen arm,

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>opposed to what you could get back for a twenty

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>four million dollars salary in a six cra.

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Would you contract swap Luis and Jorge Polanco? It's about

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the same money.

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I wouldn't.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just spitball on ideas out there.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious. I mean, Jorge Polonco, I think would

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>make the Mariner's roster even less athletic and would create

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of logjams.

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm trying to throw ideas out because right handed

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>bats are limited. He can switch hit, and if he

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 2>gets back healthy, we know the Mariners really wanted him

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 2>back this offseason. So I'm just thinking of the idea

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that maybe that's a way to get yourself a right

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 2>handed bat and hope he finds the spark that he

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>had last year, because again, the money's about the same.

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Polo's making twenty million a year. Louise is making about

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty three and each of them at this point in

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>time have a year and a half left on their deal.

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>He could in theory. I just I don't see that

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I trade Luise for Trek Scuoble once for one, right,

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>like so would I.

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>That'd be awesome, But yeah, I don't see that happening.

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Look, if it doesn't seem like Luis is gonna bring

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you much value on the market, and if that's the case,

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that's why I think you just keep them, make them

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 2>a bullpen arm and in one inning spurts he could

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 2>have a chance to pump up her nineties and actually

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>provide you something.

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah he could. Next question comes from Evan on Patreon.

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Evan's question is putting aside all egos and expectations, what

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>would you guys make the lineup the batting order based

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 1>on what we have seen this season, not what we'd

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hope or expect. I mean from where things are at

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean I put it like this, I went Randy Canzone,

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Julio Naylor, Cal Rayley, JP Cole Young, Colt Emerson, and

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the big things to hit on there are

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 2>probably the top half the lineup. So Canzone all the

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>way up at two against Randy Canzone, Julio, Naylor, cal.

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I went, Crawford leading off with a little bit more

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>on base, Randy second, Julio third, Canzone, fourth, Cal fifth,

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Naylor sixth, Rayley seventh, Emerson eighth, and Cole Young ninth.

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's not that different. So you just have JP leading.

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Off, he's got a little bit more on base, and

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>then at least Cole Young has been getting on base

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount this season, which is why I put

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>him at nine over cold, and then Luke Rayley. That's

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 1>essentially based on to Evan's question, like what is happening

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>right now where Luke Rayley is ice ice ice cold,

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>so therefore he gets to hit seventh instead of someone else.

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>But like Luke Rayley Josh Naylor are pretty much in

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the same bucket right now. They're pretty cold, which is

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 1>why they get to hit that four down in the

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>lineup and those first five get to hit where they are.

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, and this wasn't a mailbag topic, but I do

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 2>wonder if it would do cal Raley some good to

0:47:58.320 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>get him out of the two spot until they start

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>it's getting it going. I almost I almost structured this

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 2>lineup in a way. That's here's what you could do

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 2>until Cal Raley gets things going again, which is your

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>three best hitters just hitting the first three spots. Randy

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 2>canzone Julio well, and Julio struggled too, But I don't

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>know where else he's gonna go.

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Randy again, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have a problem

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>hitting Cal like fifth. Like selfish, I'll do like the

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>first four of my lineup too well.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I have Cal hitting fifth, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>but that's not the two spot.

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a little different. It is a little different. I'm

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much of a difference that's gonna

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>make for Col. Yeah, like Mike Camz struggle whether or

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not he was hitting in the two spot this.

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Year, maybe better it would get cam Zone some extra bats.

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>You would do that, I mean, you do it a

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit for Cal, but you'd also do it to

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>try and score more runs by getting your best hitters

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>more at bats instead of burying them in the lineup.

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Because as it is right now, you have a cold

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Col hitting second, and you have a cold Julio hitting third.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>A little bit harder to score runs that way. Yeah,

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>well that's how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>question comes from Xander. He's got a trade proposal for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Mariners acquire Brian Reynolds and Dennis Santana, the Pirates acquire

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<v Speaker 1>Emerson Hancock, Mason Peters and Felnine Celeston.

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<v Speaker 2>So Xander even said it in the question. He's almost

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up some old flames by rehashing of Brian Reynolds

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<v Speaker 2>trade idea, because back in twenty twenty one and twenty

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty two that was a big topic. Brian Reynolds circled

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Mariners waves a lot. But Brian Reynolds since then signed

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty sizable extension in Pittsburgh, and as we currently sit,

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>he's got sixty eight million dollars remaining on what's four

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<v Speaker 2>and a half more years of that contract, and it

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.240
<v Speaker 2>takes them through his age thirty six season or well

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 2>there's a club option in twenty thirty one, when he'd

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 2>be thirty six years old. I don't really see the

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Mariners taking on money like that and to have to

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<v Speaker 2>give up everything on their end, especially when I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's unlikely that contract age as well, because Brian Reynolds

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't play great defense, and he's already in his thirties.

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>And Brian Reynolds is really inconsistent. He's not the type

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>of hitter he's been this year. He's not always been

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that type of hitter. I mean, if you traded for

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>him this instant and you're able to get like some

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of his past production from this year on this roster,

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like all right, this is a bit of a win now,

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a win now move, but like in the future, I

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't think I'm with Lyle. I don't

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 1>think this contract ages very well. And then Dennis Santana,

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It's been really good the past two years, but this year,

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's regressed across the board. His velocity on

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<v Speaker 1>his fastball is way down, as a lot of his

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>other peripherals are down across the board, and he's just

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<v Speaker 1>entered thirty. Not as much confidence that he is back

0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to his peak for him again for this kind of

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:02.360
<v Speaker 1>package where the Mariners be sending what four years of

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>club control of Emerson Hancock three years some one of

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>those two of Emerson Hancock. Mason Peters has been really

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<v Speaker 1>fun down on the farm system this year. And then

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Felnin who's right now, a top one hundred prospect. So

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>you're sending a big league starter, a top one hundred

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 1>prospect for about seventy million dollars of Brian Reynolds who's

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>been very inconsistent, and then a reliever. I don't know

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if that trade quite matches up for me. Help It

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 1>would help the Maritors this season, I don't think it

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>helps them in the seasons going forward. It might impact

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to sign some of their own better players.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I think agreed, you know what, we need some positivity

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. So let me let me twist this

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 2>up a little bit, Xander, do me a favor. Take

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that trade proposal. Take everybody you just listed for the Mariners,

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 2>send them to Pittsburgh for.

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Paul Skins that I could get down for. I'd say

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 1>same here. Yes, it's Terrek Skouoble, except to get more control. Correct?

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Have we not thought of this before?

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 2>And not a Boris guy a le? He's not yet,

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 2>not yet?

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Fair point. Speaking of positivity, alex is trying to get

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>some positivity into us. He has a two part question.

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Part number one is what has been our favorite moment

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Mariner's first half of this season?

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I wish there was more. But the one I wrote

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 2>down is Colt Emerson's first big league homer. That was

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. Hitting it over Kalnick's head. That was pretty cool.

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with you. I literally pulled up the

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Mariner's schedule and was looking at all the games. I'm like,

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is there a moment in here I can I can

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 1>just celebrate? Is there one single moment? I'm like, Man,

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>it is tough. It's tough to pick out. So that's

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 1>why I ended up with Colts. And we were really

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>excited for Colt that he got called up and it

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a surprise. So to see him

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>come up and hit that home run over Jared's hat,

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I think that's the most Maybe giddy's the

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong word, but excited to start a podcast this season

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>in a positive sense? Was was that one? Yeah? And

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>then the second part of Alex's question is a bit

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.359
<v Speaker 1>of a niche one for me. If the Mariners were

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>an F one team, who would I say they're performing

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 1>closest to the season. I'm not going to go on

0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that long because I know this is a Mariner's podcast.

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say they are closest to Alpine and the

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>main reason I chowed this chos slow. Let me know

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>if you've heard this before. So in the middle of

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>last season, Alpine's team principal, which is like their GM,

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>resigned and then an F one legend took over.

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Now, was said legend actually good or was he twenty

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 2>he was historically? Yes, okay, but here's my question. Was

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.399
<v Speaker 2>he actually good or was he twenty percent below league

0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 2>average for his career as a driver.

0:55:57.120 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember how he was as a driver, but

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 1>as a team principal he was very good.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's what does James Franco say in the interview? Same,

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>same but different. I think that's about right.

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 1>He's not the same personality wise as Dan. But when

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like looking at when I was trying to

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 1>find an answer to this question, I was like, oh, yeah,

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Yeah, that's it right there. And Dan Alpin's

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like middle of the pack, which is right where the

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Mariners are, middle of the pack. Yeah.

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Again, one fact, one fact, Dan Wilson is in the

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Mariners Hall of Fame with an eighty WRC plus for

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>his career, he was twenty percent ple a league average.

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Just facts, no opinion, just facts.

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Cameron Lywell on Patreon is wondering, did Lyle curse

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Tucker?

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Fuck?

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>No, he cursed himself by not coming to the MS.

0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's that simple.

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's say what if? What if we placed too high

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:54.839
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0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.440
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0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.040
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0:57:01.080 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a flash decided to sign with the Dodgers and he's

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>not been able to mentally recover ever since.

0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I like that spin zone.

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Yeah, let's go with that.

0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Because it has not been smooth sailing for him in

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.919
<v Speaker 2>LA so far, Dodgers fans essentially already want him gone,

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>which is absurd. We have some Dodgers fans that are like,

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 2>can you take him off my team? And I'm like, yes,

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't take him off your team happily in fact.

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:32.520
<v Speaker 2>But listen, Kyle, doors always open, you are always welcome,

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and if you ever become a Mariner, you have a

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 2>free spot anywhere, anytime, any place on the Marine Layer

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Pod literally anywhere.

0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Jevin on Patreon asks what's your guys' opinion on trading

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for Luisa Rise and having him play a utility infield

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.800
<v Speaker 1>slash dhroll.

0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 2>So this is where you get into some issues about

0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 2>what this trade deadline's gonna present, because there's just not

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>enough right here handed bats available. Luisa Rise is a

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 2>left handed bat who does hit lefty or who does

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>hit righty's better than lefties, and he's too similar in

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways to other guys in this roster.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Not the offensive profile because obviously he's known for being

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a very contact oriented guy who doesn't strike out. But

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it's another unathletic left handed bat who I know you're

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 2>throwing out the idea of him being a utility player,

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 2>but Luisa Rise has only played second base this year,

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and given how his defense has been for the better

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>part of his career, which is nothing short of horrendous,

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I want him moving around the infield.

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>And you can't have him DH because then whose roles

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he taking? He's taking dom Can Zone's role.

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Right That doesn't work, And there's a reason I'm not

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 2>much of a fan of a Rise's game because he

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 2>has no defensive ability, no speed, he doesn't walk, He

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 2>literally only hit singles. I don't think that's that valuable

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:58.440
<v Speaker 2>a baseball player.

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And ask yourself this question, do you think it's more

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.439
<v Speaker 1>valuable to play Luisa Rise to the final two months

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of the season than it is Cole Young? Because if

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Luise A. Rise is not dhing and he's not a

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>utility player, he's gonna be taking Cole Young's spot right,

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and that is worth it.

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 2>No, Cole Young has been way too good defensively. Arise

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 2>has hit left handed pitching decent this year. He's got

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a one to twelve WRC plus against lefties, But I

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think that overtakes him playing second base over Cole Young. Which,

0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 2>by the way, let me just debunk this before we

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 2>get any comments about it. I know some of you

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 2>are probably gonna read off what arises defensive metrics are

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 2>this year fake news.

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>There is no world where.

0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe Louisa Rise has actually been a good defender

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I just don't.

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 2>He's been horrendous his entire career. He's only gotten older.

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Like usually, I'm always, always, always bought into the numbers. Yeah,

0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I just don't buy it with Louisa Rise. They're like,

0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 2>there's no way you can tell me that guy's a

0:59:59.360 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 2>good defender.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also gonna say, if we're trying to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and we're trying to solve the Mariners' issues against

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<v Speaker 1>left handed pitching, trading for a lefty bat is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the solution unless his name is Juan Soto.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not solving anything like that. Yeah, you're right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You organized has been fine against lefties. He's not solving

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the Mariners' issues against lefties, and he creates a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other headaches as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are some other left handed bats you

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<v Speaker 2>could trade for. That Otani guy might help. That Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>guy might help, That James Wood guy might help.

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<v Speaker 1>Who am I missing?

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Olsen might help, Kurts might help. There are some

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<v Speaker 2>lefties you could trade for. You think any of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are available, they should call about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think any of them would get traded for Las?

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<v Speaker 2>If they did, you'd have legitimate Mariners fans pissed off

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<v Speaker 2>that they traded Las for Kurtz or somebody legitimate, like

1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:00.160
<v Speaker 2>they've be legitimately angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine Laz alastly. I love Laz, but I'm just gonna

1:01:05.520 --> 1:01:08.360
<v Speaker 1>make this comparison here. We're gonna say, imagine Laz, but

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<v Speaker 1>he hits that those home runs in the big leagues

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't strike out as much. That's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Kurtz.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen again, we love Laz because he has been

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<v Speaker 2>awesome ever since we've gotten to know him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to say, whoever the scout was out

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<v Speaker 2>there who gave him the Yordon comp back when he

1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was seventeen, like, retire because you just did an entire

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:37.240
<v Speaker 2>fan base of disservice by putting that comp out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not the same hitter as Yord on it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like Yordon never struck out like this.

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<v Speaker 1>No he did not. Uh let me say this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the idea of the Mariners fixing

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<v Speaker 1>their offense against lefties at this deadline, the fix is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna come from the outside. Like the fix is

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<v Speaker 1>either gonna come from the inside or it's not happening

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And the fixes names are like we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to them at the end, But Julio Rodriguez and cow Raley,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the fix. If those two heat up and start

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<v Speaker 1>dominating lefties, than the Mariner's lineup's gonna look a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot better against lefties.

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<v Speaker 2>You could add Josh Naylor to that too, maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>as much against lefties, but overall. Yeah, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can put it like this. You can go get

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<v Speaker 2>reinforcements that will augment the roster, but it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fix the roster. There's no bat on this market that

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<v Speaker 2>can truly fix the roster. Even Byron Buxton. He'd do

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a lot, but he can't fix everything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he cannot. A next question comes from Robert on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's question is is there a Staton Baseball for how

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<v Speaker 1>often a team makes a mediocre pitcher on the opposing

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<v Speaker 1>team look like an absolute ace.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, unless you just created the Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>Mariners stat.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe one of these days someone will fumble around with

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<v Speaker 1>an AI tool enough to like to put in an

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm of like a pitcher with like either whatever stat

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<v Speaker 1>they're using to qualify mediocre, like either era or war,

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<v Speaker 1>or combined with like strikeout and walk rate, and then

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<v Speaker 1>how many good performances he has versus like said team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably how you'd have to cook that up. Mm hmm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds about it, right, do we think Roberts referring

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<v Speaker 1>to Braxton Ashcraft, who cooked up the Mariners on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope not, because Braxton Ashcraft currently has a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get into the All Star Game. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>really good.

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<v Speaker 1>First career, he hasn't been great, but this year, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this year has been insane. Yeah, yeah, all right. Last

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<v Speaker 1>question comes from David on Patreon. David's question is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so tired of this offense not scoring. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>don't Calan Julio as team leaders have to just put

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<v Speaker 1>this team on their backs and carry them offensively.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I think you might be thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>the different and Ashcraft. I think he might be thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of Graham Ashcraft from the Reds because, oh I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am because I was h was on my fantasy team

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<v Speaker 1>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say brax at ashcrafts only in

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<v Speaker 2>his second big league year and he's been damn good.

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<v Speaker 1>I had Graham Ashcraft on my fantasy team last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That would explain a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Confu Um, he's tired of the Mariners offense and waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for Julio and Cal to fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you just read that question. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>don't Julio and Cal have to put this team on

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<v Speaker 1>their backs and carry them offensively.

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<v Speaker 2>That's essentially what you were just saying a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be a true fix that comes

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<v Speaker 2>from the outside of this trade deadline. There can be reinforcements,

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<v Speaker 2>but not the fix. The fix is gonna be Julio

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<v Speaker 2>Cal Naylor. Either those guys are going to get it

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<v Speaker 2>going and drive this team offensively, or they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Slash.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll make the playoffs and get bounced very early, very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The expectation in this offseason when you signed Rob Refsnider

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<v Speaker 1>to hit lefties was never re Snyder is going to

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<v Speaker 1>carry this lineup against lefties. It was Rob ref Snedder

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<v Speaker 1>is going to make this lineup even longer against lefties. Because,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we have two of the best right

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<v Speaker 1>handed hitters in baseball, and Julio Rodriguez and Cal rally

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<v Speaker 1>to mash lefties, and Randy Rose Raino Randy Stunn his

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<v Speaker 1>job this year, those other two have not. The lineup

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<v Speaker 1>looks so much different if even without Rob Refsneedder doing

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<v Speaker 1>a single thing, if Julio and Cal are dominating in

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<v Speaker 1>that lineup, it just looks so much different. And as

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<v Speaker 1>we seemingly talk about every single season. You can add

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<v Speaker 1>around the margins all you want, but this is where

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<v Speaker 1>your money is allocated. This is what these players have

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<v Speaker 1>shown you they can be. And unless they are that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just really difficult for this lineup, especially to reach

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<v Speaker 1>its potential without those two guys doing what they do. Yeah, agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any other way to really put it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good send of mailbag questions. I say it every week,

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<v Speaker 2>but they really are. People bring it, People have good questions.

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<v Speaker 2>People want trade ideas thrown out there, and I certainly

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<v Speaker 2>can't blame them when you start getting too a month

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<v Speaker 2>before the trade deadline and team scuffling. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear about how things could potentially get fixed or at

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<v Speaker 2>least bettered. And I welcome all of it because we

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<v Speaker 2>love hearing the creativity. We love hearing the ideas, and

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<v Speaker 2>we say it every week. You want your mail bag

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<v Speaker 1>And now's the best time of year four too, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have draft and deadline coming up, which are two

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<v Speaker 1>very popular mail bag topics. As we go forward, the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks, So the draft will be in

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<v Speaker 1>about three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Two weeks we'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>To no, three weeks, yeah, three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be there for it in Philly or at least nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll be nearby in Philly. And then the deadline

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<v Speaker 1>will be a couple weeks after that as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good time if you want to get your

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<v Speaker 1>questions answered. It has been as much as again, we

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<v Speaker 1>love the submissions on every platform, but Patreon does get priorities,

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