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<v Speaker 1>Hi Ramond, Welcome to the re Nice Up Centers podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in Washington, d C. And Kaitlin you are

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. Got a lot to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this week. What's on your mind before we get going, Kaitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you came back from travels and you were only

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<v Speaker 2>in New York for a couple of days. I was

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<v Speaker 2>not here and now I'm about to go to Europe

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<v Speaker 2>myself because we just put our latest issue to bed

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<v Speaker 2>and this is one of the only times that anything

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<v Speaker 2>I do doesn't matter because the issue is already on

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<v Speaker 2>the printing press, which you know, we make an analog product,

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<v Speaker 2>so it stays in the world of the real So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to send it to them, they have to

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<v Speaker 2>print it, they have to bind it, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>have to send it to people. And while that is happening,

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<v Speaker 2>there's absolutely nothing I can do. So it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>actually nice forced break because, as you've very well know,

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<v Speaker 2>between coaching and broadcasting and doing the many things that

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<v Speaker 2>you do, the slams are just absolutely hectic, crazy times

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<v Speaker 2>and that's definitely true for us at Racket, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have all these.

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<v Speaker 1>Events and many da da da dah. Maybe we even

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<v Speaker 1>will do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Live podcast edition at some point if you'd like, during

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open season here in New York. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice little forced sort of disco nap of sorts

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And I'm about to go to Europe, but

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about d C. I love DC and I

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<v Speaker 2>love that tournament, and I know you do too, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to start there since it is hard

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<v Speaker 2>court season and they have an incredible field this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They do. But I just want to ask, what is

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<v Speaker 1>a disco nap? Oh, it's you don't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always telling me all sorts of insane Australian slang,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm sort of surprised you don't know this, which

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<v Speaker 2>must be maybe more North American slang.

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<v Speaker 1>A disco nap is at the disco.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it is a brief rest you take before you

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<v Speaker 2>go out so you have renewed energy to hit the town.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, things I learn. I mean, there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>I say as an Australian that you probably think, what

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<v Speaker 1>the WTF is that? But there you go. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what a disco nap is, Thank you very much. DC.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hot. It is incredibly popular in the evenings

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<v Speaker 1>because after about seven pm it gets real beautiful to

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<v Speaker 1>watch tennis here, but in the day it is a

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<v Speaker 1>hard slog for these players, so they start at eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>they go through the day. We've got an incredible field

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of us here, including you know, the likes of

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<v Speaker 1>Iyala playing Chin Win in the first round. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>what Venus Williams back. Even the qualifying was super competitive.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some great guys playing here as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>first matchup with Alex Dimenor, who's of course the defending

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<v Speaker 1>champion here up against your favorite Steph sits a pass.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's awesome. I love this week. Mark Ian

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<v Speaker 1>does a great job here of promoting tennis, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the local area really love tennis here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know you have a personal connection to

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<v Speaker 2>the city. You plead for mark Ain's World Team Tennis

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<v Speaker 2>team there for a time, along with Venus and Serena.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, I did both Venus and Serena, so they

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<v Speaker 1>love coming here, I think, you know, originally even Serena

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe thinking about coming here just because of her

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<v Speaker 1>friendship with Mark Iroin as well, but that was put

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<v Speaker 1>on the back burner. But Venus World Team Tennis was

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<v Speaker 1>something I love to play at the late thirteen season

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<v Speaker 1>World Team Tennis, and I can honestly say that playing

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<v Speaker 1>on Mark's team was also always so great because he

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<v Speaker 1>treats the players really really well here, you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>the food to I know that he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the community and the actual city of Washington to expand

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<v Speaker 1>this site. And it does need to expand because of

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<v Speaker 1>the popularity, because of the field that they do get.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's they need the help from the the city.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like in New York, why we can't

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<v Speaker 1>expand a little bit more at the US Open. It

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<v Speaker 1>is because the park, which is right up against the

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<v Speaker 1>Flushing Meadow area of the National Tennis Center, it means

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<v Speaker 1>the city to say, yeah, you can expand a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but they sort of don't want them to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are constantly fighting against it. So Mark's always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trying to schmooze. I mean, I'm in his

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<v Speaker 1>suite quite a bit this in the week, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here all day, the amount of politicians that come

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<v Speaker 1>through there for him to try and convince them to

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<v Speaker 1>expand this great tournament. So hopefully that continues and the

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<v Speaker 1>park does get a little bit more and an expansion

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<v Speaker 1>because they do need it. I mean, the courts are

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<v Speaker 1>packed here, but it's a great event if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come down, if you're in the Tri State area

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<v Speaker 1>before the US Open and you don't want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>the astronomical fees of the US Open, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>field that you get here because they do a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you know on that point.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is an urban planner, and I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the perspective of the New York City leadership is

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<v Speaker 2>that the USTA has not always paid its bills, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are a nonprofit, and there's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in the USTA side scoop can and should be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this has been reported the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>It's they're not exactly great tenants and they were given massive,

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<v Speaker 2>massive tax breaks already to build on that site. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, the USTA one of the many things that

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<v Speaker 2>Craig Tiley can and should consider doing now that he

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<v Speaker 2>has taken over the leadership as the CEO of the USTA,

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<v Speaker 2>is thinking about what would make for a better US

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<v Speaker 2>Open experience, thinking about what would make for good improvements.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they have a massive budget, couple hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to improve the facilities. I would love to see

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<v Speaker 2>them reconsider the site altogether and bring it in close

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<v Speaker 2>to the city like Melbourne has done with their fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>urbanized playing center, so that it becomes a year round utility,

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<v Speaker 2>a place for concerts for families. Yeah, I would put

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<v Speaker 2>it on Randall's Island. Yeah, I take over Randall's Island.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's an actual not a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as much as the USTA have tried to

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<v Speaker 1>change so many things and tried to it does need

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<v Speaker 1>to be bigger, It needs to be expanded, It needs

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier access from the city like Melbourne does.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a great idea. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Arthur Ash Stadium, as huge as it is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean to watch in there. The noise, the

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<v Speaker 1>ambient noise, ambient noise is just rough. The roof they

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<v Speaker 1>had to put over the top. They couldn't attach it

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<v Speaker 1>to the stadium because if they attached it to the

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<v Speaker 1>actual stadium it would sink. Because the USTA site is

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<v Speaker 1>on an actual landfill, so over the years it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes down slowly every single year. So if they put

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium with the roof attached to it, it would have

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<v Speaker 1>just sunk. So they had to put these massive pielines

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<v Speaker 1>all the way down to the literally the Earth to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put a canopy essentially over the top

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<v Speaker 1>of Arthur Ash Stadium. So you know the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money that has been spent on that. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm for it, like start again, but yeah again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can't, Caitlin, because they've just put so much

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<v Speaker 1>money into.

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<v Speaker 2>Real I do anything if I were to believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>The points on Earth were fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we thought that Earth was flat a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of hundred years ago, and people can't go to space

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<v Speaker 2>like people could do anything they want to like. For me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a matter of getting public will and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what's best for the community. But anyway back

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<v Speaker 2>to d C, Mark Ein has done a fantastic job

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<v Speaker 2>for me between Washington d C, which because of Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>gets a phenomenal field and has some phenomenal VIP experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it is built on a public tennis facility,

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<v Speaker 2>one that I used to play when I lived in

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<v Speaker 2>DC and worked for the Washington Post. I would go

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<v Speaker 2>play at Carter Baron, which is in a national it's

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<v Speaker 2>in a park, Rock Creek Park, I believe, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of a handful of tournaments that if your

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<v Speaker 2>price out of the US Open, if you looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the grounds, past day costs and how much they've astronomically

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<v Speaker 2>risen in the last couple of years, and gotten frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>with the fact that the tournament is kind of oversold

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<v Speaker 2>and overbooked and it's filled with, you know, influencers getting

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<v Speaker 2>free tickets who maybe don't appreciate tennis as much consider

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the US and North American hard court swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Montreal is a fantastic town. It happens to be my hometown.

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<v Speaker 2>Toronto is a fantastic town. Both have incredible food cities.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both incredible hospitality places to visit. The tournament obviously

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<v Speaker 2>attracts the best in class. You're in DC. We did

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<v Speaker 2>a project this year with Los Cabos, mainly because I

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<v Speaker 2>like Los Cabos and I think it's a really, really,

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<v Speaker 2>really fun place to visit. There's amazing hotels, and Misslin

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<v Speaker 2>stands like there's a lot of options for watching tennis,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the things I would love to use

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<v Speaker 2>this platform of our conversation that we've been having now

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, almost a decade. Is to encourage people like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been to some of the slams awesome deeper cut time, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go venture forth into some of the other tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be shocked at how much you enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't carry the fee and the headache and

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, logistical nightmare of a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger tournaments because they're more excited for you to be

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<v Speaker 2>there because they are hungry for fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's definitely true of DC. Yeah, I agree one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. And there are some amazing places around the

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<v Speaker 1>world that you can go and watch amazing tennis all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I think you put Rome up there, you

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<v Speaker 1>put Madrid, even though not really a lover of that stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you think about the places, you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually get lost Carba. So you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>some amazing Indian Wells, which is why Indy Wells is

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<v Speaker 1>so popular because it's such a great place. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go watch the WTA finals at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year in a time where the weather will

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of nice, it will be cool at night,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see how the weather goes there,

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess to be continued with that conversation until

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. Speaking of before we get to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the great things that happened over the last week, but

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of Montreal and Toronto, of course Yannick Sinner and

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<v Speaker 1>Novak Djokovic out in Canada because this calendar, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it forever. In a day, I just how

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<v Speaker 1>do we fix this? How do we fix an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to preface by saying the Canadian Open

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite tournaments. Every single time I played,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd support is astronomic, how good it is. They

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<v Speaker 1>love their tennis in Canada, they love this time of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. But when you lose, you know, your two

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<v Speaker 1>biggest marquee stars in Janick Center and of course no

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos al Karaz and now Novak Djokovi, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we change this narrative, Caitlin of this calendar being such

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare. And I don't blame Yanick for not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a bear of a schedule for him doing

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<v Speaker 1>what he dared, played all those clay court tournaments, lost

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, really tough match to the French. Then

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<v Speaker 1>goes and wins Wimbledon. He doesn't play anything prior. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he learned a lesson about the load of tennis that

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<v Speaker 1>he did before the French And then people have the

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<v Speaker 1>audacity be like, well, he has an opportunity to when

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<v Speaker 1>all the masters won thousands this year, why wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, cause do you think he cares

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<v Speaker 1>about that? I mean, it really cares about that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got so many records now for being the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>to do this and the youngest to do that. He

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<v Speaker 1>just won Wimbledon. His only thinking right now is how

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<v Speaker 1>can I win the US Open? So not playing in

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<v Speaker 1>Canada clearly opens up the book a little bit for

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<v Speaker 1>him to do the rest that he needs and then

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<v Speaker 1>do the workload in Cincinnati and then take a week

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<v Speaker 1>off and then play the US Open, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>too sick.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, I kind of want to answer

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<v Speaker 2>your question with another question, which is I have my

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<v Speaker 2>own opinions about how we go forward, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>the emphasis on the Slams has hurt everything else and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're really seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's not changing. Caitlin, that's not changing.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me that because one of the conversations that

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<v Speaker 2>I most enjoy, and I would argue one of the

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<v Speaker 2>conversations people most enjoy hearing is when we come up

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<v Speaker 2>with solutions. And one of the quickest ways to shut

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<v Speaker 2>down a solution is to say it's been done before,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's going to change it. My point earlier stands, who's

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<v Speaker 2>to say we can't radically alter the entirety of the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>All it would take is one sizeable outside investor, which

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that exists in other sports, to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and say, Nope, we're going to totally up everything

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<v Speaker 2>on its heads, or we're gonna withdraw player support for

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<v Speaker 2>the Slams. Slams weren't always the measure, and they became

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<v Speaker 2>overemphasized in the last couple of years because it's fun

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<v Speaker 2>to track counts. But the truth is, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you would agree with this players. My impression is players

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<v Speaker 2>in the forties, fifties, sixties and seventies would rather have

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<v Speaker 2>a roam open than some of the other Slams. Maybe not,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly Australia Norue. No, you cannot tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>people would prefer to go to Rome over Melbourne. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying they would prefer to go. I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 2>that tournament was less prestigious. I'm also saying.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred, yes, sixty years ago. Absolutely, that's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to tell me that Madison Keys not

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<v Speaker 1>not right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, the future doesn't need to be what we

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<v Speaker 2>have today. And in fact, when we were doing the

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<v Speaker 2>World Team Tennis documentary film along with A twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>my impression is that that film currently sits with the

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<v Speaker 2>new owners of World Team Tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that they paid the athletes to commit to seasons

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<v Speaker 2>that put their schedule in conflict with the Slams, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they would miss the French Open in Wimbledon. So

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<v Speaker 2>but it comes down to them, because of course, of

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<v Speaker 2>course it does. But my point is it's not about

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<v Speaker 2>the prestige. If all of a sudden the Master's one

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<v Speaker 2>thousands prize money were double the Slams, how fast would

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamic change?

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<v Speaker 1>The Slams were the most important thing, it's sports. Well

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<v Speaker 1>just answer the question immediately. Well, I can tell you

0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking live right, You're talking live golf over the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour. You're talking necessarily just but I'll the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing follow the I'm telling you, Like, yes, players would

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<v Speaker 1>go and play, But players can go and play an

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<v Speaker 1>exhibition for a million dollars like Kyle's Alkoraz and Janick Sine.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go and play an exhibition anytime they want

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<v Speaker 1>for a million dollars. If Rome, let's take Rome.

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<v Speaker 2>If Rome paid twice the Australian Opens prize purse and

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<v Speaker 2>we're scheduled at the same time, what would happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that most players would still want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a Grand Slam under their belt.

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<v Speaker 2>How long do you think it would take for Rome

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<v Speaker 2>to be considered the forced Slam instead of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I think touching hypotheticals that are honestly not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just not going to happen. Because I get what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. I understand the premise of what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to say that in so many ways, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like players did this once upon a time, Right, they

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<v Speaker 1>did this. They chose the money, they chose the they

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<v Speaker 1>chose not going to Australia, for example. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the fact that you pick Australia and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons. It's an outline. It's an outlier because back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, you would have to get on a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking boat to go to Australia. Okay, so you know

0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.080
<v Speaker 1>that that's a small difference. Right now you can go

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<v Speaker 1>first class and emirates and have your own room. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I think the difference is, rather than try

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<v Speaker 1>and detract from the slams and sort of change that narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have more of a Formula one style

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<v Speaker 1>right where you have like ten, ten, fifteen prestigious events.

0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look what they're trying to do with doubles now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to condense that down and sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>pill for that out. You know, I've had a few

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<v Speaker 1>people come to me and like you should support doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I do to a certain degree, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't support someone ranked sixty five in the ROLD

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<v Speaker 1>playing I'm going to get in so much shit for

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<v Speaker 1>saying this, but you know, someone playing doubles only that's

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<v Speaker 1>seventy in the world as a doubles ranking. Ah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the WTA should be supporting them necessarily, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not adding, they're not you know, no one's going

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a seventieth ranked doubles player playing a doubles tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when there's five people watching. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Opeerlka has a point there to some degree. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're top ten in doubles and you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>semis and finals every week, you're sort of adding to

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<v Speaker 1>a finals experience for a fan. So I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>those smaller draws to take away some of the expenses,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for the smaller tournaments. But you know, in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I like the prestige of the Grand Slams.

0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I like the prestige of on golf, for example, the Masters,

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA, the US Open, you know, for women, the Avian.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a prestige about that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's really valuable for the context of of greatness in

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<v Speaker 1>our sport, right It's like winning a Super Bowl. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I think that we can do

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<v Speaker 1>a better job at condensing the tours down and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>finding sponsorship that will bring a smaller calendar where we're

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<v Speaker 1>not having back to back Masters one thousands like we do,

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<v Speaker 1>or w taer one thousands like we do in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati, because Canada is the one that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the one that's going to flip the weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>flip the weeks, maybe, you know. So Cincinnati is the

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<v Speaker 1>second week and Montreal is the second week because every

0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.240
<v Speaker 1>player is going to play a Cincinnati over a Montreal

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to have two weeks before a Slam.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to have a week, right, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>have great tennis and then a week because whoever wins Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, is always a favorite for the US Open,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, because they're playing the best. Then they get

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<v Speaker 1>the week off and then they go into the US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>But winning Montreal, it's like, now we've got three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>till the US Open. I don't know, it just feels.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what happened at Wimbledon. Noskova and Mukhova, they won Berlin,

0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.360
<v Speaker 1>they won bard Hamburg, they had a week off. That's

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<v Speaker 1>who did the best at one right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, I think this sort of makes my

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<v Speaker 2>point for me, which is, I'm not talking about I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad izing that for you, decreasing the relevance of the Slams.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about elevating the relevance of the Masters. One thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think part of that is and part of

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<v Speaker 2>the downside of DC, for example, is and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>Mark would tell you this. I bet he wishes he

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<v Speaker 2>had a better week on the calendar. You see, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the swampiest, it's the hottest, it's about one thousand percent humidity,

0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and so those evening matches are glorious, but the day

0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.399
<v Speaker 2>matches are tough, and I think if they could have

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.680
<v Speaker 2>a different schedule they would, and frankly, it might be time.

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<v Speaker 2>Considering how many resources and how big a city DC is,

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<v Speaker 2>that that could or should be considered, especially because it's

0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.000
<v Speaker 2>dual gender, a bigger deal than it is now. They've

0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>already fought to get it to five hundred status on

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<v Speaker 2>both tours, which is awesome, and I think it could

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<v Speaker 2>and should be higher. Winning the Canadian Open used to

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<v Speaker 2>be more prestigious than now, people thinking of it as

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<v Speaker 2>as a warm up act. And so I think this

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<v Speaker 2>all comes down to the same point, which is there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be some push and pull on the calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>That absolutely means winners and losers. Unfortunately, Yeah, it means

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to mean that the tournaments are not It's

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, it's not Jeff Bezos or people living

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<v Speaker 2>in favelas, which is essentially what we're trending towards, both

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.080
<v Speaker 2>in our society and also on the tours, where the

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<v Speaker 2>slams of the haves and everybody else's the have nots.

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<v Speaker 2>But it needs to be okay, these one thousands are

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<v Speaker 2>the Formula one tour. Maybe some of the tournaments have

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<v Speaker 2>more history and have more prestige, but it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be closer to parody. And I think the reason that

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<v Speaker 2>the tournaments are so plagued with with jaws is, as

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<v Speaker 2>you suggest, the calendar, but also because this past year

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<v Speaker 2>we've had the two week Masters one thousands, and that

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<v Speaker 2>theoretically was supposed to buy the players more rest days.

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<v Speaker 2>It theoretically was supposed to buy the players an easier

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<v Speaker 2>travel schedule, and what I think it actually has done

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<v Speaker 2>is create a catastrophic situation where the players are intelligently

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time. Nightmare and they don't have time, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's just skipping tournaments as opposed to missing some days.

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<v Speaker 2>That's obviously terrible, I feel, And there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero points if you don't come, you know, nonsense, no one,

0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.640
<v Speaker 1>no one gives a shit anymore about that They're like, well,

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.080
<v Speaker 1>so what I'd rather win the US Open. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have another week where I actually rest my body.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the bottom line. You know, from the first

0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.960
<v Speaker 1>look what happened at Wimbledon. Janick Sinner went five sets

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, five sets in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think about the parody of Tennessee's days. Even

0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.359
<v Speaker 1>though Yannick is beating most people, and you know, after that,

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.600
<v Speaker 1>he won I think every match in straight sets except

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<v Speaker 1>the final. It's like, you know, he is going to

0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 1>win matches quite comfortably. But at the same time, it's

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the stress. It's not just the playing, it's the stress.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think about, you know, the mental emotional stress

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.639
<v Speaker 1>that the best player in the world or the best

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of players in the world feel every single time

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<v Speaker 1>they play and wake up. It's a lot of emotional stress.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to have that extra week of not stressing

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.240
<v Speaker 1>is really important for these players to be able to

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 1>have longevity in their career. Anyway, I agree, Yeah, let's

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>have a break, let's come back, and we got so

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>much more to talk about from DC. Okay, so, Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>some fun little things that happened this past week before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to some questions from our view as our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners is Lily Tagger.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to talk about Lily Tagger. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>a single one of her matches in Prague. I give

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<v Speaker 2>it to a person in Rome. I watched hours and

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<v Speaker 2>hours of Lily Tagger. She is the real deal. This

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<v Speaker 2>was I heard some stirrings of her, especially when she

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>competed in Lean's. I believe towards the end of last

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 2>year she went pro. She won French Open Junior Girls

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Austrian girl six to one, beautiful one handed backhand. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to talk about it with you, because you

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate this more than other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Ahead of myself, but it seems to me this is

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<v Speaker 2>the most excited I've been about watching a player in forever.

0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 2>It seems to me she is the reincarnation of Justin Anna,

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:20.520
<v Speaker 2>which I am always trying to talk about Justine Hill

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of reasons, because she has a beautiful game,

0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:27.399
<v Speaker 2>but also because she played very brave all court tennis.

0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.120
<v Speaker 2>She had incredibly soft hands. She moved forward with these

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and she really took it to a lot of players

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 2>who were bigger and hitting through the court more than

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 2>she was because of her incredible timing and you know

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of determination. Lily Tagger has all that, and she's six'.

0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>One she's got a serve that's a, cannon and she's

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 2>got a forehand that's a, rifle and her backhand is

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<v Speaker 2>not only not a, weakness it is a multifaceted tool

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 2>with which she can do whatever she. Wants and she's

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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to come.

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<v Speaker 1>In.

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<v Speaker 2>Now i've seen this girl play in. PERSON i watched

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<v Speaker 2>her At Indian wells lose To Maria. Sachary In, STRAITS

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:00.840
<v Speaker 2>i saw her Play Maria sakary again in person In,

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<v Speaker 2>rome got to set Off Maria zachary this, time little,

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 2>inexperienced little nerves looking, up this is WHEN i realized

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<v Speaker 2>she was being coached by again one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>players of all, time Frances Kis. GAVONE i looked up

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 2>in the box BECAUSE i hear This austrian girl speaking

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Fluent italian with the umpire asking FOR i don't, know

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>more bananas or, something AND i was, like, wait, What

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 2>and THEN i look up in the coaching. Box It's lallynessa,

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Herself milan's finest grandson Winner Francescas gavone And i'm, like,

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay i'm locked. IN i see this girl week in

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.480
<v Speaker 2>week Out, wimbledon she lose his first round but gets a.

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Set In, athens she wanted a couple of, rounds fell

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 2>a little. Short this week In prague second finals she'd

0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 2>ever been. In won it, handily especially after kind of

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 2>mounting a pretty good comeback after The ukrainian player, sneaker

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 2>who's got kind Of Angelie kerber. Vibes but really the

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>match of the tournament was her incredible win Over Barber

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 2>kujikova in the. Semifinals did you watch that match With

0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Barbara kujigo And Lily. TAGGER i have a feeling it

0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:02.399
<v Speaker 2>was popcorn for, you BECAUSE i know that was parpcorn for. Me.

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i mean she's a. Kid she's, eighteen and we

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>say that Mirror andreva just want A Grand, slam not

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that much. Older but the difference is her game, style,

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 1>right as you already, mentioned the, serve the all court,

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>play the, slice back, end the one, hander the coming

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 1>into the. Net she's kind of she's very. Tall she's

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.639
<v Speaker 1>going to grow into her, body and most people that

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>become that tall so young are also a little bit

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like a deer on. ICE i MEAN i remember talking

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 1>To Maria sharapova about that when she grew like an

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>enormous mount between the, ages like fifteen, sixteen but an

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>all court, player which she, is a player that likes

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>to come, in a player that has that sort of

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like A Carolina mouhover in a lot of ways Except.

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Carolina Maybe carolina should have had a one hander because

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>her backhand is her. Weakness AND i said, that, honestly

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>same As Sam. Stosa sam had a two hander back,

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>end should have had a one, hander Ash, BARDY i

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>thought could have been better even with the one. Hander

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And i'd bring up these people because they all have

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 1>weaknesses on their, backhand AND i think.

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 2>The greek, places and if they had paired the great

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.679
<v Speaker 2>slice with a great topsman, Backhand you're totally, right it

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>could have gone from defense to offense.

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Because they're, strong right Ash Sam. Mukhova they're all naturally

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>like kind of jockey and, strong so they could have,

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>probably but they were taught with for two. Hands, anyway

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>that's a whole different story we could talk.

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>About but, well ACTUALLY i kind of do want to

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 2>get into it because the bravery of committing to a

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 2>one hitded, backhand especially for a, woman should Be and

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 2>that's really WHY i want to talk, about not only Justin,

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 2>hannah But Amaly. Moresmo this has disappeared on the men's

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 2>tour and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>SCAVY i mean it's been atomized on the women's. Tour

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>almost no.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Swears navarro generation had. It Rambon Suarez navarro one of

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 2>my favorite. Players it's a dying art and then all

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden you see it back and you're, like,

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>well why did this ever go? Away when it's deployed,

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 2>correctly when coaches have the patience to teach, it it

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>can be a. Weapon can, you as a coach and

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a player who has an excellent one hinded, backhand both

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>slice and?

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Over what is this?

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>About why it's hard to, Teach why maybe not everybody's

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 2>up for. IT i switched from two to one and

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it was the best THING i ever. Did what can

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you tell me about the decision to do? It BECAUSE

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 2>i think we're going to be talking About Lily tagger

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 2>for a long time AND i want to go on

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 2>the record, now both as a fan and also somebody

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 2>who really wants to understand how she could represent WHAT

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 2>i think should be a weave and maybe won't be

0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>or maybe will.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Be but what are your thoughts about. That there's a

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of reasons why this happens.

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Right one is a lot of young women we're talking, six,

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>seven eight years of, age, right they pick up a

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>racket for the first. Time it's really hard for them

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to hit technically a one handed back end because they

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have the. Strength, Right so most young, kids most

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>coaches will see a young woman and men and men

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to a certain, degree but little you, know young, boys

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>they just are, stronger you, know with their one arm

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to be able to hit a one handed back. End

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and most girls grab the racket with two hands and

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they hit a two handed back, end and then the coach,

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>goes great, Job, okay keep that doing. That so it

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>comes down to, physicality comes down to, Strength it comes

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>down to just the basics of hitting your first tennis

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>ball are easier with technically two hands on the. Racket

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>SO i think it comes from the very start of

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>when a player starts playing tennis and they a young

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>girl will put two hands on the. Racket and also

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>when you see, it you want to be. It so

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>if you love watching tennis and your parents love watching,

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>tennis and you're watching Sable, anka and you, know go

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>down the list of women that are playing on the.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Tour they all have two hand a, backhand so of

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>course they naturally start wanting to play, like, oh my favorite,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Player Serena, Williams, oh my favorite, player you, Know Angie,

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>kerber whatever it. Is you all have two. Hands so

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that's part of, it and the physicality part of. It

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it also is part of you, know most people will

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>say to return a, serve especially serve that's coming out

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you at one hundred and. Twenty you, know if you're

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>playing Against Cocoa golf or Sable anka and you're hitting

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>serves that are one fifteen miles an hour and, above

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>it's easier to return that with two, hands for. Sure

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>SO i think that we're going to continue to see

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the two handed back ends because also on the women's,

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>tour ninety nine percent of, them ninety nine percent all

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>have better two handed back ends than four. Hands like

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>if they had to choose to hit a backhand or

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a foehand on match, point they're hitting. Backhands unless They're Carolina,

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>muhova they're hitting for who's going to run around that

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>forehand backhand and hit a fourhand, Right so you, know

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>and the people THAT i brought up At Ash party

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Is Sam. Stozer they're going to run around and hit

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a four hand all. Day so it comes down to the,

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Physicality it comes down to what they, see and it

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>also comes down to the strength to be able to

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>hit a return of serve or a big. Ball with

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>two hands is. Easier SO i wouldn't necessarily teach a

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>one handed. BACKHAND i think you have to see what

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a player is physically like if they if A Lily

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>taggert for, sure came and was like oh, BOOM i was, like,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>okay well you can turn and still strike that backhand

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>as well as a two, hander and you are a

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a, jock which she, is and you're,

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Strong keep the one, hander keep the one. Hander. Now

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that's where comes down to having such an important role

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>model or coach in your life at early stages of

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>when you start playing tennis and, recognizing for, example On Nash,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>PARTY i would, say, listen you have really strong. Arms

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>you're able to hit a fourhand toppy like Justin, anna

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>very good. Example you know your favorite is that you

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>had the strength to be able to hit a fourhand

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the way you. Do that's why Sam stoza should have

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>had a one hander back, end because she had that

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>short back swing with really quick, hands and that's what

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>her one handed back end would have been like as.

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Well she was, strong and she was very very. Strong

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>well look at her, kicksurf so her shoulders and her

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>ability better hit one handed back end would have been

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>much better for her than to have a two, hander

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>which was very slappy and not good with the left.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Hand if you Watch serena, practice And i've done this

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a million times, now she will hit one handed four

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>hands with her left, hand and her one handed forehand

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>with the left hand is as good as my regular,

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>forehand like any good two handed Backhand Maria. Sharapova, SERENA

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>i would, argue most everyone has a really good left

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>hand and they use it a lot right, so which

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>is Why Raphael nadal was so good with his, backhand for,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>example because he was a natural right. Hander SO i

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>think it comes down to a lot of those. Reasons

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>but With, LILY i, think And i'm going to make

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a big statement, here she's good now at eighteen she

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>just won her first. TOURNAMENT i think she's going to

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>be even better at twenty, eight, agree because she's going

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to learn how to utilize all of those beautiful strokes

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like A mohova when she gets to the twenty, six twenty,

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>seven twenty eight years of her. Age AND i think

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that's Why muhova's doing. Better she's not injured every week as.

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Well knock on, Wood BUT i think when you have

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the choice of shots that these players have and they're

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>not just a ball basher like with just whacking the

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>ball at like eighteen, YEARS i, Mean Mira andreva is

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit different because she doesn't really have a

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote massive, game but she has a very beautiful.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Game but she's a little different because she's in tactfully

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>very good and or dwell and has good. Hands but,

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah all of the.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Things tagger has more, tools AND i think those tools

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>take longer develop AND i think that's where you, know

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>for the casual tennis, fan why it's such a delight to,

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 2>watch even if you're not sure why you love. IT i,

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Mean federer is the best example of all people who

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>even casually like, tennis understand that they're watching something very.

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful it's not just the one hit a, Backhand it's

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 2>not just the feathery. Footsteps you, Know cinner has. That

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>nobody who's a better, mover probably Than Novak. Djokovic you,

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>know there's certain aesthetic things that you look at a

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>court and you, say, ah now that's, incredible and you

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe can't describe. It for, me what is so exciting

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>about this young kid is she has these tools that

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>you say are going to. Develop she, has Like Yannick,

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>cinner a background in skiing in The Austrian. ALPS i,

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>mean In sinner's, CASE i think it was more The Italian,

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 2>alps but it's from a pretty similar part of the,

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>world and they are, solid, strong and there's a base

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>there that's not just you, know it's not just. FLASH

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>i think it's going to take her a while to.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Develop but why we Like Carlos alkaraz is because he

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>can improvise and he has a lot of, tools and

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like And, ocova and why we Like center so much

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 2>is because he's so solid and he moves so well

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's. Grounded AND i think for me watching this,

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>WOMAN i was, Like, wow this is the most Excited

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>i've been about watching a tennis. Player and don't get me,

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Wrong i've loved The, MUKHOVA'S i love The, Barties i've

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>loved The you, know there's many many tennis players that

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>you like to watch for the contrast and style as

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>much as for their. Games but this from a game,

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>perspective she's only going to get better and. Better AND

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>i love the way she's being coached and mentored because

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it seems to me That, skiavone who has had her

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>at her high performance academy outside Of milan for now

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of, years is playing the long. Game

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and oh, yeah tennis is the longest of. Games, yeah

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>because you really have to work so hard upfront and

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>believe that it's going to, work believe that the tools

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you're building now are in ten years, time as you,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>say going to pay. Dividends AND i hope that is.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>True AND i hope more than anything else is THAT

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>i get to watch this girl get better and play

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>better and better opponents and higher and higher stakes, matches

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>AND i, hope really truly that she inspires more and

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>more people to fall in love with, tennis because when

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you watch somebody play it like she, does it is

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>hard not.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>To, well we're going to take another, break but we'll

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>come back with the questions that were sent to me

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>on the. Socials BUT, aj we answered your question BECAUSE

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>aj asks full breakdown Of Lily tagger's, game and so

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>there you. Go all, Right we're going to take a

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>quick short break and be back with reader's questions after. This, Okay,

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>calaitland it's time for reader's. QUESTIONS i did shoot out

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>a tweet about an hour, ago So johnny on the,

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>spot everyone who wrote, in thank you so much BECAUSE

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>i have to get going to the tennis tournament here In,

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>WASHINGTON dc. Soon so good Old. Nebby do you have

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the questions? Up, caitlin would you like to read?

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Them give me a, second just BECAUSE i got wee

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>laid On twitter looking at all The Lily tagger love

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 2>our Friend vance he's saying that she's the real. Deal

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so hard not to get excited and talk

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>about this. Woman so thank you for letting me indulge

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit of you, know.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>One handed backhand. Love, Listen, hey we're both one headed

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>backhand so we love to see. This SO'S i can,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>say great kid like great, kids such a nice, kid

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and of Course Francesca scivoni and MAY i just also

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>add female, coach female.

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Coaching, okay so these days doing pretty well on the

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>two of these, days present company very much. Included all, Right,

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>SO aj we gave you a full breakdown Of Lily tiger's.

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Game here's a related question From raydon while we're on the,

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>subject and THEN i promise you we'll move. On Lily

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>tagger was not the only person playing tennis this past,

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>week even if to me it felt like it. Was raydon,

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>asks what are the future prospects of the one hitting

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 2>backhand Aka Lily. Tagger there's another young WOMAN i believe

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>She's french who is on THE itf, tour who has

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>a gorgeous one hit of backhand that a lot of

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 2>coaches like to post about on the. Socials you, know for,

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>ME i, agree it's hard to imagine that this is

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>going to cause another resent. Renaissance but what do you

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>think the future of the one handed backhand is what

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>it is?

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Now we will see the odd one or two that

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>will come out that will be. Beautiful they'll get all

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the love that they deserve because they had the. Courage

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>as you, said, earlier and their coaches had the courage

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>to not change what they did really. Well AND i

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's really important for coaches to understand the physicality

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of their young. Player if they have a one handed back,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>end they're strong and they have quick, hands they have quick.

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Forehand if a player has a really whippy, forehand like

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>And i'm to keep bringing out the same, people But Sam,

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>stoza Ash, Bardi Carolyn, mukhova if they have that, good

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>strong forehand that's quick with the racket, face let them

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>try it with the one handed. Backhand SO i think

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that's super. Important and you have to develop a slice.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Backhand so if you have a one, hander your slice

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.479
<v Speaker 1>back end is going to be good, naturally just because

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be, stronger which is why two handed

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>backhands don't have great slices except for the greats Like Kim,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>kleisters for, example had a great slice. Backhand so IF

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>i had to model someone after a, BACKHAND i would

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>model it off To Kim. KLAISIS i would have that

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>beautiful slice AND i would have a two handed back.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>In so we're not going to see many one hand as,

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>anymore but, boy when we, do we love. It, WELL

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>i hope you're, wrong BUT i suspect you're. Right, YEAH

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>i Hope i'm wrong, Too BUT i don't think. Wibboble,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>NO i don't think so.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Too Kitty kat asks With, Andreva Mira, andreva who we

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 2>spoke about, earlier and Now Linda noskova who just won

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>wimbled in and MAY i say she turned up at

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>The Prague open where all This Lily tagger match for

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Berber kujigovia stuff went down and did a sort of

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 2>victory lap BECAUSE i gather That prague is her. Hometown

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>and she looked amazing and was, amazing And i'm delighted

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 2>that she has joined the ranks Of slam. Winners it

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>seems both deserved and also probably. Repeatable but back To

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Kviti kat's. Question As andreva And noskova are first time,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 2>winners who is next a young player Like Iva djovic

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Or Alex, yala or maybe Even Lily tagger or more

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>experienced players Like Jessica pagola Or Elena. Spiddelina what do

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you think in terms of Next slam? Winner it is

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 2>literally like shooting a fish in a? Barrel how do

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 2>you predict that it's, like just.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Shoot it on the women's do her. ANYTHING i don't.

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i will say this after she comes back from.

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>INJURY i Think Vicki ambocco has the ability and the

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 1>hutzba and the, confidence very quiet confidence because She's canadian

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so they're very, sweet but she has this very quiet

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>confidence about. Her she doesn't get overly. Nervous she goes for.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 1>It she can improve a lot of, things most importantly

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>her SERVE i think can get even better. TECHNICALLY i

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.720
<v Speaker 1>think her forehand can technically get. Better but her quiet

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>confidence is what makes me go probably. Her so let's

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>hope when she comes back from this knee injury which

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>she suffered At. Queen's, UNFORTUNATELY i think she really can

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>win A slam in the next few years because of

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>not only can she hit the ball huge and she

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>has a massive first. Serve she just believes in. Herself,

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 1>internally she doesn't show. It she's not this outwardly cocky.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Person BUT i think she has the game a little

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>bit more Than Yala yala serve is just never going

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to get win her. SLAM i JUST i know IT'S i,

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 1>mean you can say the same thing About Angie. Kober

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have a great serve, Either BUT i just

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like that is what is holding her. BACK i

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's what Hold Jessica pagoula. BACK i think it's

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>what WE'VE i talked about this yesterday with a friend

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of mine on the, Phone Like jessica PAGOL i keep

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>picking her to win a, slam and she keeps letting me.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Down AND i think it's a lot because her second

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>serve is so vulnerable against these big, hitters and So

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>i'm still have hope That jack can win, one BUT

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.919
<v Speaker 1>i just don't see. It same With. Fitzalina second serve

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>is so, vulnerable doesn't have the power to. Overplay it can.

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Happen look what happened to Was. Niaki we've had players

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that are technically not big hitters of the ball. Win

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>but IF i had to pick, ONE i Pick Vicky

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>amboco and, Hey Lily. Tager but not. YET i give

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>her about five.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 2>YEARS i think she needs a little more time in the.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>BEARER i, Mean i'm going to see something incredibly. Controversial

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>carolyn Was naki slam was an act that He.

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>It was A she won the W Ta finals two

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>three months earlier and beat every one and served everyone

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>off the, court hit everyone. Off the quote was, unbelievable

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and then took that confidence Into. Australia SO i won't

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>say that About caroline because you had to Beat caroline.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 2>And She, yeah, sure you had to beat, her And

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Simona hallepp did not that. Day but my belief about

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 2>her is best. Encapsulated And Yolena asapeko's, quote which you

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>can look. Up, okay speaking of, quotes Is venus's comment

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>On Maya joint fair or. Unfair venus's comment About Maya,

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>joint who you'll remember Beat serena in the first round

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Of wimbledon in three, sets and Had venus had this

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to say about. It she Meaning serena played stellar in that.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 2>MATCH i think her level was so extraordinarily.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>High it was very.

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Unlucky sometimes you play players who are on fire and

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.959
<v Speaker 2>they don't seem to maintain that level.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Afterward, yeah she's not. WRONG i, mean she's not. Wrong

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>serena played. Well we know what happened with the. Knee

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>she was very much hobbled and that was definitely a,

0:38:54.600 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>problem certainly in the third. Set But Maya joint played

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the match of her. Life she made not the match

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 1>of her. Life she definitely played the, WELL i would,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>say probably the match of. Life but she played the

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:12.720
<v Speaker 1>best match this year and then subsequently lost the next

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>match the following, day played a great first set and

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>then just fell away AND i think lost the third

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>set six. Love so when you have technically quote unquote

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>nothing to lose and everyone thinks that you're shouldn't you're

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.479
<v Speaker 1>probably not going to win this match because you haven't

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>won a match SINCE i don't even, know six months or,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>something and you play against you, know the greatest player

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 1>of all time as somebody who's won the tournament seven. Times,

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>yes she hasn't played a match in three and a half,

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>years but, still you, know everyone's, like, ah what a great.

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>Draw maya joint hasn't won a match in so, long

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the perfect. Match and then she came out

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and played, unbelievable served well every big, point and she

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>had a little stumble at the end of the second,

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>set started missing a few balls here and, there but

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>overall she played. Great and so What venus is saying

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>IS i have no problem with her saying that because

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it was. Correct and then you, know Unfortunately maya went

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and lost the Next so, YEAH i Mean. Caitlin there's

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so much that players or people don't say in public

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that they want to say that they say in their private.

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Lives and it's not Just, venus this is. Everyone it's trust,

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>me you're getting One you're getting one fifth of what

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>they really want to say about. Anyone SO i Think

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>venus is being very protective if her little, sister And

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm i'm okay with it because she didn't say anything

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that was not.

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah AND i want to bring up a point

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that you've made time and time and time, again and

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>you were actually just making it About Yannick, center which

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is the amount of pressure it is to be the

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 2>best in the world and defend it week in and

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>week out and weekend and week out and week in

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and week.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Out you can't have a bad match.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Anymore maybe you could at certain points in like the,

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 2>nineties when you can win a couple of matches just

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 2>by showing up and being better skills, wise but that's

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 2>not true. Anymore the tours have too much. Depth everybody's. Good,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody especially when they know they're playing, you is going

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>to try to have the match of their. Life sometimes

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 2>they want. Succeed most times they want, succeed but sometimes they.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Do and if you're not one hundred per because maybe you're,

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>injured or because maybe you're a little out of, practice

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 2>or maybe you're not feeling, confident it's a to. Me

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot about that, belief which is why the

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 2>belief stuff is so so. Important as you mentioned with

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 2>With victoria And, BOCO i do wish sometimes and this,

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>is you, know as toxic as many online spaces, are

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Speaker 2>it does fuel a lot of fun because people can

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>sometimes indicate how they really feel about certain. Things and we're,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 2>all you, know trying to be on our best.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Behavior WELL i.

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't know that you AND, I i, mean but, HELLO i,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 2>mean have you met. Me we're certainly more filtered than

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 2>we would.

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>BE i get into trouble every week for comments THAT i,

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>make and it's just like fuck. Me like with social.

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Media think, god social media wasn't around WHEN i was.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Playing holy oh my, god that would be, terrible catastrophic for.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>You it would have been, Great, okay that's what. Entertaining

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it would have been, great AND i probably would have

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 1>had a vlog and you know, what probably would have

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>made more. Money let's be, Honest.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay if you hadn't been. Canceled, okay next, question this

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is From. Neby this is a very very good question

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's a little. Tough how do you Think Elena

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 2>rebuccin his year will go from? Here her first third

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>of the year was so, strong but sub part of

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the last few months it does appear that she is.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Adrift wouldn't you? Say? Naw?

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely you KNOW i picked her prior to months Before

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>wimbledon started THAT i thought she would Win. Wimbledon for

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>her to lose To Alisa, murtens WHO i believe she

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>had an eight and one record against there was just.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Crazy of all the upsets At wimbledon this, year that

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>was the one that just blew me away the. MOST i, was,

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<v Speaker 1>like WHAT i MEAN A Lisa murtens is a good,

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>player a very solid, play always round to, sixteen third,

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<v Speaker 1>rounds always like sort of doesn't lose to anybody you

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<v Speaker 1>know below her. Often but to lose that match Against,

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<v Speaker 1>rebutta to Beat rebuccin in that, situation to, me was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest shock At. WIMBLEDON i had heard the day

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<v Speaker 1>before she did like hours on the practice court and

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<v Speaker 1>like was looking exhausted and so came into that. MATCH

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<v Speaker 1>i don't, know maybe hitting too many balls a day.

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<v Speaker 1>BEFORE i don't know what's going, on but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a player that should be winning more slams than she already.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Has she won These Strain, open she played great tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>There hard court is definitely more her. Jam, so just

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<v Speaker 1>LIKE i said last, NIGHT i did a little thing

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<v Speaker 1>FOR espn last night when the question was asked About

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<v Speaker 1>sabalanka at THE Us. Open she has not won a

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Tournament sablenka Since. Miami, OKAY i was going back to

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>back her. Up Actually Indian wells And. Miami we know

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<v Speaker 1>how well she plays on hard. Court same With. Rebakina

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<v Speaker 1>SO i will say, this If rabakina doesn't Win montreal Or,

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<v Speaker 1>cincinnati she's still one of the favorites for THE Us

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<v Speaker 1>open because she is so good on hard, court as Is.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabalanka SO i still put them at the top of

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the list to win THE Us open just because they

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<v Speaker 1>play so well on hard. Court but there are definite

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>questions that need to be answered By rebakina going into

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the sun and leading into THE Us. Open having said

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the fact that she hasn't played well in this latter

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>part of the, Year she's still a player that nobody

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>really wants to, play let's be. Honest and Also cincinnati

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is quite similar to THE Us. Open the speed of the,

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>court the conditions are, hot so we will see to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Determined when we were sort of counting her out a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago or a year, ago she comes

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<v Speaker 1>back and wins this Strain. Open so still a player

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.399
<v Speaker 1>with all the ability to win A Grand. Slam so

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<v Speaker 1>she'll still be definitely knocking on the door at THE Us,

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<v Speaker 1>open but we will soon find. Out, okay we're done

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<v Speaker 1>with our. Questions thanks for sending them in so nice of, You.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin thanks for joining. Me i've got to jump on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus and get to the tennis courts here In.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington, wonderful wonderful week In. Washington you've got an absolutely

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 2>gangbusters a number of matches to, watch AND i hope

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 2>anybody who did not hear us earlier in the show

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<v Speaker 2>please CONSIDER i don't care if you live In, ROMANIA

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>i don't care if you live In Hong. KONG i

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>don't care wherever you. Are go support your local tournament

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 2>and look at these smaller weeks on the tour as

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>opportunities to get close to this amazing sport BECAUSE i guarantee,

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you whoever you are watching a name you know or

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 2>a name you're about to, know you're going to watch

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 2>some incredible. Tennis and so much of our sport is

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 2>made or broken in the weeks that are Not slam.

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Weeks we love The, slams no shade to The, slams

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but a tournament LIKE, dc a tournament like Those, cabos

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a tournament like The Canadian, open these are phenomenal places

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 2>with the best player in the, world and they're also

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>great cities to. Visit so really think about getting outside

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 2>of your comfort zone and going to a smaller tournament

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>if you don't, already because it is an incredible.

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Experience exactly my, sentiments. Exactly last couple of things before we.

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<v Speaker 1>GO i want to also say well done to Friend

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>jones who WON a one twenty. Five yes you don't

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 1>know her, story please look Up Franny. Jones please look

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>up what she has to deal with as a tennis.

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Player it's incredible she won a tournament this past, week

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and well.

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<v Speaker 2>By cin a, row two tournaments in a, row and,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah two tournaments a you're, correct, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>EXACTLY i Love Linda's noskova is trolling THE wta by

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>saying why AM i? Here because she was posted on

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the the transgender that was the funniest Thing i've.

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Seen she has the news hilarious transgender update to the

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 2>testing and they just she was, like, walla what AM?

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I what DO i have to do with any of?

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 1>EXACTLY i also want to throw out a congratulations To

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Tommy paul and his new wife who got, married and

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 1>of Course Alex demonor And Katie bolter who also got

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>married over the last.

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Week and they Are geese and they and married AND.

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<v Speaker 1>Dc they're all. Here Tommy pole's, Here Alex demonoi is,

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Here Katie bolter's, here all the new married couples are

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>all here IN. Dc so stay tuned On Tennis channel

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and watch that and you might catch me on the

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>court interviewing the. Play so stay tuned on. That if

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you've got questions you want me to ask, them send

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>them to me on the Old. Socials all, right, guys

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us this. Week we'll see you next. Week,

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>CAITLIN i know you're probably trying to go To. Europe

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you're also going to an area that has got a

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of fire going, on so good luck with, that.

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<v Speaker 1>MATE i just twitched my.

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<v Speaker 2>Tickets i'm not flying into the wildfair, okay good for.

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<v Speaker 1>You i'll be In, marseille not Cap Foray.

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<v Speaker 2>Mercibuku have a great, week ENJOY dc and watch tennis

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 2>in person or live if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can all, right thanks, everyone see you next. Week bye

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<v Speaker 1>b