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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all. This is episode one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen of Native Lampod, where we give you

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Speaker 1: I breakdown on all things political and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of culture, of course sprinkled in there every episode. I'm

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillham, your host for today, and I am joined,

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Speaker 1: of course by my wonderful co host Angela Ryan McCary

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Speaker 1: Sellers and also the very very very special addition to

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Speaker 1: the team this week, mister Kevin Ortego Rojas.

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Speaker 2: What's up, keV, y'all, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Yes, yes, Yan.

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Speaker 1: And welcome so much.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to thank you so much for being here. Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Many of you all know him from Here's Why with Kevin.

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Speaker 5: He is a brilliant content creator on social a writer,

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Speaker 5: and he is bringing his hot takes ADHD style today

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Speaker 5: are all things journalism news. We are grateful to have

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Speaker 5: your insurg you prefer those over Bokari's outbursts that normally

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Speaker 5: are puting.

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Speaker 6: We wanted to I actually wanted to say thank you

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Speaker 6: to Kevin because in this new social media kind of ecosystem,

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Speaker 6: our voices are getting destroyed, muted, just drowned out. Because

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Speaker 6: as soon as some of my colleagues who are Republican

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Speaker 6: or conservative commenters commentators just put something out there, they

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Speaker 6: just swarm with it. And you are fighting back, man.

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Speaker 6: And so every time I get out TV, I'm like, damned,

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Speaker 6: Kevin did he did?

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Speaker 1: He repost taking points?

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Speaker 7: And before they cuts to commercial break, I'll have a

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Speaker 7: clip of there you go.

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Speaker 5: That's why he's shouting you out to help him because

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Speaker 5: he needs a lot of ellen.

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Speaker 1: N I guess who doesn't need help Kevin and bakari

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Speaker 1: As Why why it's written all over her face? Well body, uh,

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Speaker 1: congratulations miss the building.

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Speaker 5: I don't want the audio listeners to think that I

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Speaker 5: have any tattoos, So it's not written on my body,

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Speaker 5: but it's written on my hat.

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Speaker 4: We are the champions.

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Speaker 1: Reference to the game needs me.

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Speaker 4: I was there. I'm happy. I'm very happy. But we'll

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Speaker 4: get through.

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Speaker 3: Did you where did you sit? Where did you sit?

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Speaker 6: Until you didn't You wouldn't tell us last week because

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Speaker 6: of security reasons. But I'm trying to figure out. It

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Speaker 6: looked like you had some fresh fruits and cold drinks

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Speaker 6: around you. Where were you sitting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was in a sweet sweet that's really sweet.

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Speaker 4: It's really nice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna tell us by invitation of whom, or

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Speaker 1: shall we.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, yeah, I just look up the jacket.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there is. Well, congratulations to you. Congratulations of course

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Speaker 1: to the Seahawks. It was well deserved. I mean they

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Speaker 1: played a game and actually was pretty cost reymption.

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Speaker 4: We did it for mar Sean. Okay, we did it

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Speaker 4: for mar Sean.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, well, thank you for doing all that in

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Speaker 1: honor of the Bad Bunny Bowl, because that's what it was. Essentially.

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Speaker 1: MAGA had lined up to be haters, but there was

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Speaker 1: another there was another performance to be delivered. It was

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Speaker 1: one about love and what America truly is and what

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Speaker 1: it truly looks like. But that didn't stop some of

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Speaker 1: the haters. Angela, as we transition now to I think

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Speaker 1: one of our more favorite parts of the show, in

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Speaker 1: the newest addition to our shows, run down our FAISA

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Speaker 1: also known as for your Situational Awareness, got a couple

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Speaker 1: of topics we're gonna hit run through real quick for

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Speaker 1: you and Angela's kill us off.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, Andrew, to your point, the GOP is big,

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Speaker 5: mad at the NFL, NBC, and of course Bad Bunny,

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Speaker 5: some of them going so far as to call for

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Speaker 5: the FCC to find them and for Congress to investigate them.

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Speaker 5: The problem is, Megan Kelly said the quiet part out

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Speaker 5: loud again, so we all know what the real issue is,

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Speaker 5: and you know we've always known.

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Speaker 4: Let's run this clip.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, peers, but to get up there and perform

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Speaker 8: the whole show in Spanish is a middle finger to

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Speaker 8: the rest of America. Who gives a damn that we

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Speaker 8: have forty forty million Spanish speakers in the United States.

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Speaker 8: We have three hundred and ten million who don't speak

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Speaker 8: unifying event for the country, not for the Latinos, not

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Speaker 8: for one small group, but for the country. We don't

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Speaker 8: need a black national anthem. We don't need a Spanish speaking,

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is the national language officially the national language

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Speaker 8: I mean English, And there's been a place for many

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Speaker 8: years to make it, to make it an official don't

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Speaker 8: have to have one. If you would have let me

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this.

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Speaker 8: Attitude why Britain have lost your culture. You seated your

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Speaker 8: culture to a bunch of radical Muslims who came in

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Speaker 4: Over, and now it's going crazy. We're not allowing that here.

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Speaker 8: Whether it's banished, whether it's Muslim, it's not happening in

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Speaker 4: That's why President Trump was elected.

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Speaker 8: And whether it's bad Bunny who is American but refuses

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Speaker 8: to speak English and his performances, or anybody else. We

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Speaker 8: have to keep the Super Bowl, which is a quintessential

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Speaker 8: American event. Football, that kind of football is ours. They

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Speaker 8: call it American football, and the halftime show and everything

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Speaker 8: around it needs to stay quintessentially American.

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Speaker 4: Vanish, not cut off.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you some, Let me tell you some.

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Speaker 5: This is you ready, y'all gonna be mad as so

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Speaker 5: as my church already. This is what I got to

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Speaker 9: I was gonna say, we really were so prepared to

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Speaker 9: just be racist to every group she hit, the Latinos,

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Speaker 9: the black people, the Muslim she had smoke for everyone.

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Speaker 5: Hater boy, we were happy like he was so dope.

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Speaker 5: I was crying real tears about Bad Bunny super Bowl performers. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: I know we're an f I s A, so I

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna go too deep and Bacari's podcast If y'all

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Speaker 5: missed it, the solo pod yesterday was about Bad Bunny

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Speaker 5: and more, so please make sure y'all tune in and

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Speaker 5: check it out.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's still on you, Angela, No it's not. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: if it ain't on you, then I'm gonna kick it

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Speaker 1: to the other kid who got Kid Rock.

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Speaker 5: You Okay, all right, we'll fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I didn't know that. Ok you guys are

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Speaker 5: So Kid Rock doubled down in Meghan Kelly type of

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Speaker 5: racism when he said that jay Z was a d

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Speaker 5: why because it's just a nonsense. So I didn't want

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Speaker 5: E I Higher for the NFL halftime show this year,

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Speaker 5: it was the highest watched Super Bowl halftime show in

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Speaker 5: history last year, with Kendrick Lamar now the second highest.

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Speaker 5: So how many of yous did get Rock's Little song

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Speaker 5: and dance get I don't know, but let's roll this clip.

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Speaker 10: So he goes like, well, maybe jay Z will do it,

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Speaker 10: which nothing against jay Z. I respect him for his

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Speaker 10: hustle and you know, his music, but it seems like

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Speaker 10: there's a little bit of a DEI hire there going on,

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Speaker 10: you know, to kind of like, you know, like, oh,

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Speaker 10: you know, black guys love jay Z.

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Speaker 3: And of course I'm not that ignorant.

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Speaker 10: I know a lot of us love jay Z, not

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Speaker 10: just black guys. But in the league where he had

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Speaker 10: you know, then they convene in a not for that

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Speaker 10: they quietly got rid of that tacked tech except status

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Speaker 10: his salary, you know. So we had all sorts of problems.

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Speaker 10: So he brings in jay Z.

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Speaker 5: What Yeah, And here's the thing that I just would

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Speaker 5: jay z is a billionaire and it's not because of

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Speaker 5: an NFL halftime show. It's also a good time to

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Speaker 5: remind folks that the artists are not paid for the

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Speaker 5: halftime show either. Normally their downloads increase. I know, I

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Speaker 5: certainly started downloading all the bad money, okay, so it's

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Speaker 5: just an interesting time. Meanwhile, I'm really curious about how

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Speaker 5: many views turning point Usay's halftime show actually also received.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they were anywhere close.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, please guess who didn't watch the NFL halftime

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Speaker 1: Oh your President, the man they did it for, he

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Speaker 1: didn't even watch the thing. What was he glued into? However,

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Speaker 1: the damn super Bowl and the super Bowl halftime performed

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Speaker 1: by Bad Bunny in all the crunk celebrities and influences

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly has got to be different when you're there,

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Speaker 1: in the in the language, there was an energy, there

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Speaker 1: in its execution. So well done, bad Bunny, Not that

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Speaker 7: But I just want to really quick before we move

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Speaker 7: on from kid Rock. That's the man say that jay

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Speaker 7: Z is some sort of de I hire. When y'all

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Speaker 7: are screaming about the fact that white people were not

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Speaker 7: there's not one white person there. First of all, a

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Speaker 7: time are apparently not white again, Sorry Lady Gaga. Uh Like,

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Speaker 7: I higher I don't. And there were white Latinos there,

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Speaker 2: Like, this was actually one of the.

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Speaker 7: Most diverse casts that we've seen perform at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's just the fact that language is the thing. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: We even had Pipa trees. Did y'all see the Pepa trees.

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Speaker 4: The trees, I thought, it's also diverse.

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Speaker 7: People will get mad at I don't remind you that

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Speaker 7: they were sugar canes and not trees.

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Speaker 1: There it is turbotum fields, turbot and feels.

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Speaker 5: And they had they even were emulating the field the

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize that was supposed to be sugarcane.

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Speaker 5: I was mad though, because I really wanted to break

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Speaker 4: But they were just like literally live props. It was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to rock.

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Speaker 3: Nation, shout out to nation.

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Speaker 1: But moreover, it's American, and perfectly it's global because the

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Speaker 11: As the Gestapo or the secret police encourages threats against

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Speaker 11: Making valid observations about your tactics which are Unamerican and

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Speaker 12: You all seem to think you are the highest power

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Speaker 12: We are here for answers, we are here for accountability,

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Speaker 1: How many governments General Lady will suspend general, lady will

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Speaker 5: Can I just say really quick about Lamonica? I know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you I thought overwhelming, and I spent

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I just think that we are having

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we know, the US Supreme Court is

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, yesterday Trump told Fox News that he

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Speaker 1: That's right, We appreciate that. Well, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: are made available now for members of Congress in unredacted form.

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Speaker 1: I should also say there are only four computers available

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Speaker 1: to these members, and they have to review these files

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Speaker 1: in a specific designation designated area with four computers for

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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty five members of the United States Congress.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll the clip.

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Speaker 13: United States government is engaged in an active cover up

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Speaker 13: of the larger trafficking scandal and influenced peddling scandal in

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Speaker 13: the history of the United States, and Donald Trump is

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Speaker 13: right at the center of it. And the person who

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Speaker 13: is living to provide the evidence who knows what is

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Speaker 13: going on, is trying to invoke the fifth to buy

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Speaker 13: her clemency. Donald Trump is not only named thousands of

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Speaker 13: times in the latest release from the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 13: he is named over thirty eight thousand times in the

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Speaker 13: files that were released two weeks ago alone. And we

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Speaker 13: know that that only represents half of the files that

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Speaker 13: the Department of Justice has in its possession, including files

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Speaker 13: that were used for direct investigations of perpetrators, people who

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Speaker 13: committed crimes, people who were co conspirators in those crimes,

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Speaker 13: and individuals who knew of those crimes. We know that

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Speaker 13: there are multiple administration officials, including Howard Lutnik Elon Musk,

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Speaker 13: who served as the appointee for the DOGE efforts in

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Speaker 13: the White House. We know that the Secretary of Navy.

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Speaker 13: We know that Steve Bannon, we know that there are

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Speaker 13: more than three dozen associates, family members, and individuals directly

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Speaker 13: associated with Donald Trump named in those files.

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Speaker 1: And of course you all know Gilly Maxwell this week

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Speaker 1: gave testimony, well, showed up, appeared league in front of

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Speaker 1: a gift testimony to work Congress and basically said, I

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Speaker 1: pleaded the fifth on every single thing she was asked.

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Speaker 1: And some of y'all may say, well, of course she

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Speaker 1: would plead the fifth and not say anything, except she

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Speaker 1: had all the words. When the Todd Blanche, former personal

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Speaker 1: lawyers to the President and then second in command that Justice,

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Speaker 1: decided to fly down to my hometown Tallahassee, Florida and

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Speaker 1: interview her. She was unstoppable and all that she had

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Speaker 1: to say for two days y'all, but had nothing to

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Speaker 1: say to the US Congress by way of accountability.

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Speaker 3: That's not all the way accurate, Andrew. She said that

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Speaker 3: she played the fifth.

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Speaker 6: However, however, she would be willing to talk if they

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Speaker 6: granted her a certain level of clemency. And so she

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Speaker 6: ain't have a lot to say to your point. But

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Speaker 6: she was like, if y'all give me my free I

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Speaker 6: will gladly tell you what I need to see. I

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Speaker 6: just want to compliment. And I don't know how many

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Speaker 6: times on Native Land we've actually done this by dining

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Speaker 6: one hundred and however many episodes. I did want to

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Speaker 6: compliment a conservative Republican Thomas Massey, Thomas Massey and ro Conna.

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Speaker 6: I've been pushing the envelope on this issue for a

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Speaker 6: very long period of time. And if we don't praise

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Speaker 6: people when they do right, they just they just ain't

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Speaker 6: gonna never do right. Thomas Massey and Rocanna and Roe

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Speaker 6: went to the well. And for legal purposes, this my

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Speaker 6: next quote is directly for legal purposes for all of

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Speaker 6: those who are watching it. It is not a thoughts

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Speaker 6: or concerns or verbs that are come from Native Lampard. However,

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Speaker 6: he did mention that there are six individuals whose names

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Speaker 6: are co conspirators, an indicted co conspirators from the well

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Speaker 6: where he had the protection, and I'm just quoting him

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Speaker 6: so I should get that same protection. But Salvatory Nuara

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Speaker 6: zer Rab Makela days Leon Leon.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you one thing, y'all reading them names the

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Speaker 4: same way, my joy.

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Speaker 3: Because he couldn't pronounce me either.

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Speaker 6: I know this one Sultan I met ben Selam, I

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Speaker 6: don't know, but I know the last Leslie, Leslie.

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Speaker 5: If we can Nick, if we could just put the

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Speaker 5: names up and put them in the show notes, very

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Speaker 5: best because we don't know what.

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Speaker 6: Risks I tried. But listen, they those six went without

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Speaker 6: any punishment. But as we all know, sunlight is the

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Speaker 6: best disinfected. So ro Conna and Thomas Massey from Native

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Speaker 6: Land and Bokarie Sollis, thank you keep doing that good

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Speaker 6: bipartisan work on behalf of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 4: Doing the right thing.

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Speaker 1: That's real and Butcari while while you had some names

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Speaker 1: that were difficult to pronounce, make sure y'all attention in

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Speaker 1: the show notes there are names that we all can

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Speaker 1: pronounce based off the Epstein files who were may not

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Speaker 1: have been mentioned in the in the documents as unindicted

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Speaker 1: co conspirators, but based off their actions, their emails, their

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Speaker 1: words themselves, their communications with Jeffrey Epstein, which have come

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Speaker 1: into the light of day, there's no there's no conceivable

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Speaker 1: reason why there were not legitimate charges levied against many

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Speaker 1: of these men in power who fully and knowingly procured

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Speaker 1: the services of underage girls, children solicited procured of those services,

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Speaker 1: and somehow this Justice Department, along with five other Justice

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Speaker 1: departments under bipartisan administrations, chose not to bring charges.

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Speaker 6: Let me just also say, let me let me okay, No,

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Speaker 6: I wanted to clarify something just real quick. Everybody that

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Speaker 6: I named wasn't associated with pedophilia. However, everybody that I

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Speaker 6: named was associated with trafficking women and throughout the world, and.

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Speaker 3: I just there.

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Speaker 6: So there has been a legitimate question with Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 6: about blackmailing, pedophilia, and sex trafficking. Those are for legal purposes.

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Speaker 6: Those are three different things. Absolutely for moral and ethical purposes.

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Speaker 3: It is all that. So I just wanted to clarify.

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Speaker 6: That that those people aren't There was one torture video

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Speaker 6: associated with one of the individuals of a minor, but

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Speaker 6: for the most for some of it, it wasn't necessarily pedophilia.

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Speaker 3: It was equally as bad as sex trafficking. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to flag for the audience again one

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Speaker 5: of the names that has been named that wasn't listed

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Speaker 5: as a whole conspirator. Donald Trump thirty eight thousand times

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Speaker 5: is quite damning, just as much is just as damning

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Speaker 5: as all of the felonies he was indicted for prior.

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Speaker 5: But I will just say this one thing I'm fascinated about, well,

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Speaker 5: two things I'm fascinated about.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of nasty ass people out here.

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to pass judgment, but y'all nasty, like

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Speaker 5: you're doing the most. Casey Wasserman is in some email

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Speaker 5: asking Jilaine Maxwell when he was gonna see her in

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Speaker 5: a tight ass leather outfit, Like, Casey, what you're doing, bro?

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Speaker 4: They gonna let you stay.

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Speaker 3: Two names that surprised me.

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Speaker 6: First the OBG y N, who is like the lead

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Speaker 6: ob G y N at Ohio State that was mysteriously

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Speaker 6: sending he was getting twenty five thousand dollars a quarter

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Speaker 6: and he was sending packages down there to him, which

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Speaker 6: is wild on his face.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is deep hop now deep deepop

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Speaker 3: Deeppo said, I was about what'd you say?

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Speaker 7: Said email of Jeffrey Epstein, and I think it's like

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Speaker 7: twenty thirteen He's like, I had to tie my life

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Speaker 7: last night. I think people will keep forgetting that. Like

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Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epsen was a known pedophile in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Deepak said God is a construct and then said

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Speaker 6: girls are cute.

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Speaker 4: I was like, let me just I got to say.

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Speaker 6: This ain't for me now and then, but don't be

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Speaker 6: preaching those spirituality to me and books and NB I

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Speaker 6: heard dancing with babies.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys, maybe that's exactly what I was thinking

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Speaker 2: of Angela.

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Speaker 5: Choprah and Oprah rhyme and no we're not, because why like,

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Speaker 5: here's my here's my only thing. It's actually the question.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that she did anything. She's not in

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Speaker 5: the files. I'm not suggesting this. My question is for

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Speaker 5: someone who spends so much time in you know, super

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Speaker 5: Soul Sundays and the many ways in which she is

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Speaker 5: tapped in and discerning what happened with the discernment around Deepak,

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Speaker 5: doctor Phiel and doctor Oz.

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Speaker 3: And I just really wondered what you're saying now? But

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Speaker 3: are you?

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Speaker 5: It might be a tangent, but I really want and

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Speaker 5: I really want to hear from like I'm not being funny.

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Speaker 5: I really want to hear from her if she's like, man,

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Speaker 5: it was a miss bro I really you know, I

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Speaker 5: got I got them wrong. I really want to hear

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Speaker 5: how she's because I would be heartbroken. Right if there

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Speaker 5: are people that I'm putting on it is like, these

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Speaker 5: are folks who I am uplifting as extremely talented that

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Speaker 5: I'm going to lend my platform to, and the many

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Speaker 5: ways in which they have embarrassed like the legacy of

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Speaker 5: what Oprah Winfrey stands for. I want to know how

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Speaker 5: she feels about that. Like, it's one thing to be

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Speaker 5: a dummy and you went to support another party. It's

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Speaker 5: another thing to be a dummy be appointed by the

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Speaker 5: person that runs that party. It's a whole other ass

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Speaker 5: thing to be a spiritual guru messing with little kids.

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Speaker 3: We don't know that part.

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Speaker 5: I said allegedly no, but I mean, like that's what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, why do you say.

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Speaker 4: Girls, I mean, at the very least, he's a hole,

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Speaker 4: so you start a pedophile.

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Speaker 5: The teapok seems to be a whole by as evidenced

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Speaker 5: in these files. So I'm just wondering how this And

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not throwing shade

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Speaker 5: to Oprah. I love Oprah. I want to know how

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Speaker 5: she feels about this. I would be mortified.

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Speaker 4: Publicly. I want to forget I was saying I wasn't saying.

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand where.

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Speaker 4: In the files. I'm saying. Brown brings me to my

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Speaker 4: next question, how do I feel about that?

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Speaker 3: The two points really quickly. I wasn't saying that.

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Speaker 6: I was just it was a very very close segue

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Speaker 6: between pedophilia human trafficking to take I don't know what

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Speaker 6: that's On the.

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Speaker 1: Good side, she did come out in Campani against doctor

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Speaker 1: Oz for the US city.

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Speaker 3: Did that's true?

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Speaker 4: She just tell me how she was like.

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Speaker 1: You may have to call up I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And for people out there that are about to give

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Speaker 6: me hell in the comments about why but talking about

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Speaker 6: there's a difference between all these things.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to Yeah, you are going to get

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Speaker 4: drag forday, I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to important.

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Speaker 5: So we're talking about things that are allegedly happening based

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Speaker 5: on the disclosure in the Epstein vision.

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Speaker 1: There are some things that are happening in the month

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Speaker 1: of February, like Black History Month, and during the month

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Speaker 1: of Black History, y'all, some president decided that the first

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Speaker 1: black governor of Maryland, and I believe the only sitting

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Speaker 1: serving black governor. I don't believe I know in the

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Speaker 1: country was disinvited from the long standing National Governors Association

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Speaker 1: bipartisan meaning all governors regardless of party affiliation, dinner at

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Speaker 1: the White House, which takes place during their winter meeting

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Speaker 1: in Washington where the governors convene. It traditionally has had

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Speaker 1: the value of being a space where you could say

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Speaker 1: what you want about whiche government you don't like or

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Speaker 1: do like. But within that space they have stood up

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Speaker 1: for states rights, the the sovereignty of states, and have

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Speaker 1: pushed back or been strong advocates for the kinds of

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Speaker 1: help that comes out of Washington that actually helps states

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Speaker 1: to be more successful. But in this case it took

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Speaker 1: a very dark, no pun intended turn with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 14: Let's see before I let you go, I just want

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Speaker 14: to understand what you think. The reason is that you

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Speaker 14: are being singled out, and Jared poulis, but from your perspective,

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Speaker 14: why are you being excluded from this dinner?

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Speaker 15: Well, I have long learned that I'm not trying to

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Speaker 15: get inside over the president's psyche. It's not a good

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Speaker 15: use of my time. It's not lost to me that

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Speaker 15: I'm the only black governor in this country, and I

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Speaker 15: find that to be, you know, particularly painful considering the

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Speaker 15: fact that the president is trying to exclude me from

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Speaker 15: from an organization that not only all my peers have

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Speaker 15: asked me to help to lead, but then also a

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Speaker 15: place where I know I belong in, and so I've

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Speaker 15: long learned, and I've talked to the people and the

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Speaker 15: children of my state, is that I'm never in a

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Speaker 15: room because of someone's benevolence nor kindness. I'm not in

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Speaker 15: a room because of a social experiment. I'm in the

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Speaker 15: room because I belonged there, and the room was incoplete

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Speaker 15: until I got there.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you, this boy can string some words together.

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Speaker 6: Let me and he is a very eloquent in what

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Speaker 6: he says and how he presents himself. Shout out to

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Speaker 6: his amazing wife and because and because he was outspoken,

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Speaker 6: because he didn't shy away from it. I also believed

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Speaker 6: that they did the same thing to Jared polus as

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Speaker 6: well by disinviting him. But they're now no longer meeting

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Speaker 6: with the President of the United States because of the

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Speaker 6: simple fact that the National Governments Association was like, we're

676
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Speaker 6: not doing this shit because somebody actually raised their voice.

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Speaker 6: So it may not mean a lot to people.

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Speaker 1: This means something.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows.

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Speaker 5: Can we say also that Wes is the vice chair

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Speaker 5: of the National Governors Association. It said that in the

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Speaker 5: lower thirds. For those of you who are listening and

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Speaker 5: cannot see on the interview with Dana Bash, I think

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Speaker 5: it is important to understand this man is in leadership.

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Speaker 5: He helps to run the organization that Donald Trump sought

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Speaker 5: to keep him out of the dinner for. So, yes,

687
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Speaker 5: that's the least they could do is not go to

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Speaker 5: the dinner. But also, at what point are we going

689
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 5: to call this thing what it is? We had to

690
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: call a spade a spade. So, as we all know,

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Speaker 5: last week, before this this invitation happened, he did something

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Speaker 5: even uglier.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillen, Yeah, he sure did well, he continued in

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Speaker 1: a long line of tradition of his type. Last week,

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Speaker 1: this president, as hopefully most of us know, again during

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Speaker 1: Black History Month, decided that quote staffer at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 1: plus at night was going to get into his social

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Speaker 1: media and repost of racist SaaS video that portrays the

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Speaker 1: former First Lady of the United States, Mi sholl Obama

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Speaker 1: and her husband, the first black president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama as apes put their faces on apes, y'all.

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Speaker 1: The truth is that, I know we've been hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot of outrage, some of it things, some of it real,

704
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: But this trope kind of has a little bit of history.

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Speaker 1: This ain't the first time we've seen this mess from

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Speaker 1: his people. Let's see the clip.

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Speaker 11: When reporting and counting resumed, there was a massive spike

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Speaker 11: occurred that that favored Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: So I just want to point out the President came

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Speaker 5: in real strong for Black history.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: He started out with the ape video, went to disinviting

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Speaker 5: the black.

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Speaker 4: Governor of Maryland.

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Speaker 5: And what I think is more fascinating is there are

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who don't understand why the actions

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Speaker 5: he's taking are being labeled as racist. Andrew, you just

718
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Speaker 5: mentioned there's been a longstanding history of connect seeing black

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Speaker 5: people to.

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Speaker 4: Monkeys, to chimpanzees, to gorilla's.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you all remember that cover was

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Speaker 5: it on Vanity Fair where lebron was posing with the

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Speaker 5: white woman and they had him almost like ape like

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Speaker 5: gorilla like feature, and black people were outraged about it.

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Speaker 5: You know, people have you know, put our faces on monkeys,

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Speaker 5: They have like put our faces next to monkeys. They

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Speaker 5: have created this scenario where our brains are the same

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Speaker 5: size as monkeys. This is long standing racist ideology that

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Speaker 5: sometimes medical professionals would use to cite that, you know,

730
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Speaker 5: talk about it talking about our intellectual capacity or lack thereof.

731
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Speaker 5: And so Donald Trump played right into that very dangerous,

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Speaker 5: ugly trope. And I think what is worse is this

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Speaker 5: isn't the beginning of Donald Trump's racism. We talked about

734
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Speaker 5: this ad nauseum. In the twenty sixteen election. Donald Trump's

735
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Speaker 5: daddy was at a KKK rally. Donald Trump and his

736
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Speaker 5: daddy were sued by the Department of Justice two times

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Speaker 5: for racist housing policies and discrimination.

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Speaker 4: We know that he took out three no you say one,

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Speaker 4: it was three.

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Speaker 5: Actually full page ads calling for the death of the

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Speaker 5: Central Park five when he announced his campaign and slid

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Speaker 5: down the escalator, it was Mexicans are drug dealers and rapists.

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Speaker 4: This man doesn't just traffic in racism.

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Speaker 5: This man, as Andrew said, and we should play that clip,

745
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Speaker 5: this isn't just racist thinking. He's a racist. He is

746
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Speaker 5: what he is. And for every elected official that refuses

747
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Speaker 5: to call this country what it is also founded on

748
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: racist principles in this two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. We

749
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Speaker 5: are in a sunken place that we will never get

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Speaker 5: out of if we cannot tell the truth about where

751
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Speaker 5: we are. If we can't tell the truth about where

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Speaker 5: we are, we will never arrive to the destination we

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Speaker 5: all deserve, which is true freedom, true justice, true liberation,

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Speaker 5: and true equity in this country. And we have to

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Speaker 5: get to a point where we can say what it

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Speaker 5: is so we can fix the thing. White people, y'all

757
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 5: are scared because you're seeing your numbers dwindling. You're scared

758
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Speaker 5: because you've never had to share a pie that you

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00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: didn't even got Dan bake. That is what is really

760
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: at stake here. The reason why Megan Kelly can go

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Speaker 5: on Piers Morgan and scream football is our She ain't

762
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Speaker 5: never ran a goddamn football down a field in her life?

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Speaker 4: How is it yours?

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Speaker 5: And the league is made up of seventy percent of

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Speaker 5: black people? Like, what are we actually talking about? Ain't

766
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 5: nothing in this country yours? The country itself isn't even yours.

767
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Speaker 5: How dare you title?

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Speaker 4: Piece of shit? Okay, let me stop.

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Speaker 1: I hear your heat on that boat. The heat for

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Speaker 1: the black ones who happened to be king yes for

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Speaker 1: this mess. Check this out and I want to hear

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Speaker 1: your thousand.

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Speaker 16: On the other side, President Trump, I'm in awful lot

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Speaker 16: of things. I see the grandfather that picks up my

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Speaker 16: little girl and gives her a big hug. I see

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Speaker 16: the person that will write Victoria notes, sign pictures and

777
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 16: send them in the mail to her. My children think

778
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 16: he's phenomenal. He's a hero. That's what they've seen of him.

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Speaker 16: He's always treated Westley and I with complete respect. Going

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Speaker 16: to small town Eye, I love that community that do

781
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 16: believe in the conservative values In President Trump. That was

782
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 16: a huge, I opening experience for them. They got someone

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Speaker 16: who they admire so much in that small town. And

784
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Speaker 16: that's what he does to a lot of small towns.

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Speaker 16: He gives these people a glimpse of hope of their

786
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Speaker 16: with what they feel is best for our country. They

787
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 16: see him as that inspiration, someone that they all their

788
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 16: values they're instilling in him. And that's why I see

789
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Speaker 16: when Wesley is with him, that same thing happening that

790
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Speaker 16: he's doing. He's giving our country cope and so much

791
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Speaker 16: inspiration that they feel just from the things that he's doing.

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Speaker 16: Like I said, he's been such a wonderful person to

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Speaker 16: our family. He's always asking about the children. Like I said,

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Speaker 16: I see him as this father figure, a husband, a grandfather,

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Speaker 16: and my kids love him.

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Speaker 1: Uh, carrying on.

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Speaker 4: Carrying on.

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Speaker 5: You've got this other clip our post Andrew from Daniel Cameron, who,

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Speaker 5: of course is the black man who is running for

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Speaker 5: attorney general in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: What did he run for after.

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Speaker 1: He was he was the attorney general and as he

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Speaker 1: ran for governor of the state, and and he's trying

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, I know, but again, I actually want to

805
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Speaker 1: ask all of y'all on the other side of this

806
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Speaker 1: is what you think it is that sort of sits

807
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Speaker 1: at the crux of why these black men and others

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: like them and not just because they're black women too.

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Speaker 1: We had Jennifer Carroll here and Florida and others, you know,

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Speaker 1: h yeah, right, who came for this guy? But Daniel Cameron,

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Speaker 1: former Jenny General state of Kentucky says, I'm proud to

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Speaker 1: support President Trump. He's endorsed me twice. Uh not once

813
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: has he ever cared about the color of my skin.

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Speaker 1: The White House made clear this was an accident. You

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00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything from the media when the left ran

816
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: these about me. What the White House did was accidental.

817
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Speaker 1: What the left did was intentional.

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Speaker 4: And did.

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Speaker 5: Like I just I want to point out there's a

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Speaker 5: there's a graphic for those of you who couldn't see it.

821
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Speaker 5: It says, all skin folk ain't kim folk. Daniel Cameron

822
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Speaker 5: is the epitome of skinfolk, and so I'm so, and

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Speaker 5: Wesley Hunt is the epitome. Wesley Hunt didn't even have

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Speaker 5: the courage to say anything himself. He sent his white

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Speaker 5: wife out here to defend this nonsense with these black

826
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Speaker 5: kids they got, and I just think that it is

827
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Speaker 5: so unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: You know what's even more sick to me.

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Speaker 5: All it's sicker is these black pastors who watched this

830
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Speaker 5: happen are defending this saying, well, he made a mistake.

831
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Speaker 5: All that I mean, I just I it makes my

832
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Speaker 5: skin crawl. The amount of contorting we're seeing from black

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Speaker 5: folks who now waive this Trump flag. The people who

834
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Speaker 5: held up Jamal Harrison Bryant's head, you know those big

835
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Speaker 5: head signs at the White House during the last Black

836
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Speaker 5: History Month. Y'all gonna celebrate Black History Month every time

837
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Speaker 5: by doing some racist shit against black people who are

838
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Speaker 5: doing good work.

839
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Speaker 4: That's what we're doing every time.

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Speaker 1: I just why do you I'm curious why were people

841
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: expecting Republicans and really public officials anyway to decry the

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00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: actions of Donald Trump given every day that we have

843
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: observed him in the public space.

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Speaker 6: Because they don't understand it, because they don't they don't

845
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 6: fully grasp the correlation every First of all, let me

846
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: just say that many times when you write letters and memos,

847
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 6: you just you respond to something. You just kind of

848
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: affirm everything that was said before it. And I think

849
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 6: that Angela's alocution and everything she said before us was

850
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 6: just perfect on this particular topic.

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Speaker 3: Not Oprah, but on this I'm just joking, but it

852
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: was perfect. Right.

853
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Speaker 4: I asked the question about right, but it was.

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Speaker 6: Perfect, And so I wanted wanted people to play us

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Speaker 6: back again. And then I would go one step further

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Speaker 6: and say that black folks and white folk Andrew, this

857
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Speaker 6: is something you were so skilled at when you ran

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Speaker 6: and when you were in office.

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Speaker 3: I think they miss the.

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Speaker 6: Correlation because when you depict us as being when you

861
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Speaker 6: depict us as being apes and monkeys, and then people say, well,

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 6: it's a part of a longer video, Like that makes

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00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 6: it better. Or Joe Biden was a monkey too, Like

864
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Speaker 6: that makes it better. What you're doing, though, is you're

865
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Speaker 6: not giving us the benefit of our humanity. And when

866
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 6: you don't give people the benefit of their humanity, you're

867
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: able to treat them less than. And so what happens

868
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Speaker 6: is not only do you have individuals who are shot

869
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Speaker 6: in their back, like the young man in Los Angeles, California,

870
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Speaker 6: by an Ice agent right that we don't talk about enough.

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Speaker 6: Not only do you have people being gunned down in

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Speaker 6: the street by state sanctioned violence, but you also have

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Speaker 6: the violence that's perpetrated us against us when they mis

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Speaker 6: educate us, like the Quarter of Shame we have in

875
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Speaker 6: South Carolina. You also have the violence that they perpetrayed

876
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 6: against us we don't have access to quality care, like

877
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 6: the fact that black women are three to four times

878
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 6: more likely to die doing child birth, or educational opportunities

879
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 6: or financial opportunities. I mean, the list goes on and

880
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 6: on and on, or through wrongful incarceration or the way

881
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 6: that we're incarcerated. And so there is a there's a line,

882
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: and people people are like for those people. And then

883
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 6: this is something that Charles Blow said to me the

884
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 6: other day which blew my mind.

885
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: There is this.

886
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: There are people who do not appreciate the racism. They

887
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: do not like the bigotry, they do not like the buffoonery,

888
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 6: but they love the outcome. And that outcome for them

889
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 6: is what Angela was talking about. By becoming a majority minority.

890
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: They want to fight back and they appreciate that outcome.

891
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 6: The problem we have, and my problem is very simply

892
00:47:51,920 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: this that we never punished the Confederacy, that same Confederate

893
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: to re see trees in this confederacy was the reason

894
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 6: that we had Jim craw. That those same group of

895
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 6: people are the same people who on January sixth stormed

896
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 6: the capital. That same group of people are now in

897
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 6: leadership in Washington, DC. And so all of this I

898
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: believe correlates. And for me, they're people who miss the

899
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 6: forest for the trees. Andrew was amazing at this. This

900
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: is why you were so successful as an elected official,

901
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 6: because you were able to communicate with people on a

902
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: level that they understood the correlations between actions and impact.

903
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 6: And now people see actions and they either willfully disregard

904
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Speaker 6: the impact or they're too stupid to identify it.

905
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: So so good bar it, really Andrew.

906
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 5: Before you move on from this, Bakari mentioned you twice here,

907
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: and I want to play a clip that is one

908
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Speaker 5: one for those of you who are aspiring candidates elected officials.

909
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Speaker 5: This is a masterclass on debate strategy.

910
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Speaker 4: One two.

911
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 5: It's also a masterclass on how to respond to someone

912
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: who has pricked your nerves, your rage and come at

913
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 5: you in a racist way on a national stage. Andrew

914
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 5: was on the receiving end of yet a monkey accusation.

915
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: So we just want to show you that this is

916
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: something that is not new to Donald Trump. It's age old,

917
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 5: as we discussed, but this is how Andrew responded when

918
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: racism was knocking at his front door. Visa VI the

919
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: new governor or, the governor of Florida that I don't think.

920
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 5: I didn't think he won, But let's go ahead and

921
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 5: play the clip.

922
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Speaker 1: Blessed Santa.

923
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 17: So I'm going to direct this next question to you.

924
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 17: A lot of TV in August on the first day

925
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Speaker 17: of the general election campaign, you said, of Andrew Gilliam's

926
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Speaker 17: run for governor, quote, the last thing we need to

927
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Speaker 17: do is to monkey this up by embracing the socialist agenda.

928
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 17: Fox News quickly disavowed your words, saying, quote, they do

929
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 17: not condone the landguage. Now you called some of this

930
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 17: response absurd. You've made appearances at four of David Horwitz's

931
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 17: Freedom Center events again, four separate times, for speeches, amongst

932
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 17: them of mister Horowitz's statements, quoting here, this country's only

933
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 17: serious race war is against whites.

934
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Speaker 1: You know, I'll ask the questions.

935
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Speaker 17: It's now a mcarthy game, and I'm giving wait for

936
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Speaker 17: the questions, sir.

937
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

938
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 17: He also said if blacks are oppressed in America, why

939
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 17: isn't there a black exodus?

940
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Speaker 3: Now?

941
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 17: In twenty fifteen, in your speech before the Freedom Center,

942
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 17: you said of mister Horowitz, David has done such a great,

943
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 17: great work, and I've been an admirer. I've been to

944
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Speaker 17: these conferences in the past, and I've been a big

945
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Speaker 17: admirer of an organization that shoots straight, tells the American

946
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Speaker 17: people the truth and standing up for the right thing.

947
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 17: Those are his words. Here's here's my question.

948
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: He hadn't even made those statements?

949
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 17: Then, yes he had, sir, The first statement was made.

950
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 18: I mean, how the hell am I supposed to know

951
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 18: every single statement somebody makes. Here's the deal. Let me

952
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 18: just say this. Let me just say this straight up.

953
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 18: You know, I've lived my life, whether it's athletics, whether

954
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 18: it's military, whether it's serving as a prosecutor. You know,

955
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 18: when I was downrange in Iraq, we worked together as

956
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 18: a team, regardless of race. We had the American flag

957
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Speaker 18: on our arm, we wore the same uniform, and we

958
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 18: fought for the country. When I was a prosecutor, I

959
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 18: stood up for victims of every race, color, and creed.

960
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 18: That's the only way to do it in our country.

961
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 18: It's something I believe in. And as governor, I will

962
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 18: represent all the people. Everyone will get a fair shake.

963
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 18: But I am not going to bow down to the

964
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 18: altar of political correctness. I'm going to not let the

965
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 18: media smear me like they like to do with so

966
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 18: many other people.

967
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: So I'm certainly not going to take.

968
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 18: Anything from Andrew Gillham, who's endorsed the Dream Defenders, which

969
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 18: says Israel is an apartheid state, and which says the

970
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 18: police and prisons have no place in justice.

971
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 17: Mister Jil, wait for the applause, and Jill and I

972
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 17: and mister Desanta's the whole point out. I wish you

973
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 17: would have waited for the question because I had a question.

974
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 17: It's not what you think it is. Mister Gilim will

975
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 17: give you. He has to respond, though.

976
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: Let me first say, my grandmother used to say a

977
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: hit dog will holler, and it hollered through this room.

978
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: Mister DeSantis has spoken.

979
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 11: Hey.

980
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: First of all, he's got neo Nazis helping him out

981
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: in the state. He has spoken at racist conferences. He's

982
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: accepted a contribution and would not return it from someone

983
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: who referred to the former president of the United States

984
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: as a Muslim nigg e r. When asked to return

985
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: that money, he said, no, he's using that money to

986
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: now fund negative ass Now I'm not calling mister DeSantis

987
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: a racist. I'm simply saying the racist believe he's a racist.

988
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: Kevin, what you got on that way, and.

989
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 7: That was great, And I think that is such a

990
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 7: brilliant strategy because when the person is there right, when

991
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 7: the person is saying next to you in debating, and

992
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 7: they have the opportunities to deflect and you know, try

993
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 7: and change the conversation, it's brilliant to say the people

994
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 7: that you aligned with that you refuse to disavow, that

995
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 7: you refuse to step away from are openly racists.

996
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: And hold them accountable in that moment to you know,

997
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: for their relationships with those people.

998
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: That was great, you know, y'all, I will tell you,

999
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: and this is really hark thank you for that. It

1000
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: hearkens back to where Maccari was around the through line,

1001
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: because so often we can muster up the anger to

1002
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: reject somebody for a word that they use or a

1003
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: person in company in which they keep. But even in

1004
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: the question by the debate moderator, he says, this is

1005
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: a conference you've pretended quite a few times, right, this

1006
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: wasn't You didn't just walk into this room, and now

1007
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: we expect you to know what the ideology is of

1008
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: the of the leader. No, you've been here before before

1009
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: you were ever running for governor. This is the place

1010
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: you chose to reside. You feel comfortable, and then you

1011
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: have to trace Okay, well, let's this organization think about

1012
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: racial justice, about criminal justice, about housing policy, about you

1013
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: have to connect it to the things that then what

1014
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: will the governor act on all of these things? And

1015
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: so when you're putting people in places who you want

1016
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: to be your protector and your defender, and more than that,

1017
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: just be decent as a human. If we don't connect

1018
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: the fact that you associate with these folks, that you

1019
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: have used these words, that you are associated with this

1020
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: organization which you know has as it's mission the obliteration

1021
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: of our people, and so on and so forth, then

1022
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: you could make the mistake of just getting worked up

1023
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: over a word, rather than what kind of impacts are

1024
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: about to flow from the thinking and actions of this person.

1025
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: I think that's where the outrage has to be put.

1026
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: But because it's hard to get people to focus on

1027
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: that part of the story, we got we gotta ride

1028
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: out on the president, you know, posting monkeys, right, a

1029
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: conversation that is beneath our station. But the truth is

1030
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: is that it creates license for all those people. It

1031
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: reminds me of last week, y'all, the pastor told us

1032
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: the reason why it's hard for his folks have change

1033
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: is because for thirty years they've been getting messages into

1034
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: their homes that say, this is your enemy. These are

1035
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: the people who we are to be against. If they succeed,

1036
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: we fail, zero sum, right, So these are the messages

1037
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: that they're getting, and so without thought, not even consciously.

1038
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: They're now clutching their persons when they walk past us.

1039
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: They're locking their doors. They are they are They suspend

1040
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: with belief when our people are murdered and broad daylight

1041
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: on people's television screens. You can be that dismissive when

1042
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: you don't believe in a people's humanity. And that's what

1043
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: all this stuff co conspires to do. That's what that's

1044
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: what that's what apes Coke inspired to do. And by

1045
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: the way, for all the white folks out there, HS

1046
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: are primates just as we are. That's the connection that

1047
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: we have to the evolution in the in the science

1048
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: of evolution, we all have the front low frontal low

1049
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: cortex and have all eventually evolved from. But you don't

1050
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: see us using graphis like that to describe you.

1051
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: Andrew.

1052
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. If Papa Rie was here,

1053
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 5: do you clearly one raised with Papa Rye. I came

1054
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 5: home after biology class in high school and I was like,

1055
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 5: so we came from my dance.

1056
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm tell you one damn thing I didn't come from.

1057
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: He was like, God created me.

1058
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 5: Out the dirt, So is no way I didn't come.

1059
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: Can I circle back?

1060
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 7: To the black folks who are defending Trump, and a lot.

1061
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: Of ways explain it if you can. I just I

1062
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: just want to.

1063
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 7: Draw a line between I know we're focusing on sort

1064
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 7: of the anti blackness, the overt anti black racism, but

1065
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 7: I do want to connect it to what we're seeing

1066
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 7: with Latinos and sort of how Ice is targeting people,

1067
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 7: and just in general, why certain people align themselves with MAGA,

1068
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 7: Because when I see the Wesley Hunts and the what's

1069
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 7: this man's name from Florida who admitted that this Donald's Yeah,

1070
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 7: So like when we see like Byron Donalds and that

1071
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 7: other senator, when we see people align themselves with MAGA

1072
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 7: despite their overt racism, to me, it only confirms that

1073
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 7: they know what's happening, and they see the truth, and

1074
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 7: they would just rather grovel at the feet of the

1075
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 7: oppressor and know that they're protected then be the ones

1076
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 7: on the receiving end. It's the same reason why we

1077
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 7: see Latinos vote for Trump, because they believe that if

1078
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 7: they align themselves with the people in power, that they

1079
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 7: will not be targeted. And it's really sick to see

1080
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 7: because you we we give up before we fight, rather

1081
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 7: than call out racism and try to just dismantle it

1082
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 7: so that no one has to be subjected to this.

1083
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 7: We would rather just assume that this is the dominant

1084
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 7: force and there's no point in fighting it, so align

1085
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 7: yourself with that person and.

1086
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: Let other people suffer. It's really, really sick.

1087
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 7: The only thing, I'm sorry, the only thing that I

1088
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 7: do enjoy about this upcoming election is the fact that

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Speaker 7: both Wesley Hunt and Byron Donald's are out of their

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Speaker 7: depths running for seats that they are not going to win,

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Speaker 7: which means that they won't be in the house anymore.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they're three different types, because I don't

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Speaker 6: think each one of them is the same. I think

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Speaker 6: you have Byron Donalds, for example, even to a certain extent,

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Speaker 6: Wesley Hunt, who found greater opportunity over there for themselves

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Speaker 6: in terms of political ambition, right, because the line is

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Speaker 6: just fundamentally shorter, and so there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: people who are because Byron Donalds has lived a couple

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Speaker 6: of different lives. If anybody just does a little Google search,

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Speaker 6: and so you know, you find people who see, oh

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Speaker 6: my god, the line is short over there for negroes,

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Speaker 6: let me go over there, right, So the petition let's

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Speaker 6: steep too, let's steep too right, and so the bar

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Speaker 6: is lower. So that's one type, you know. The other type,

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Speaker 6: which I think you are identifying, which is like Jason

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Speaker 6: Whitlocks of the world, who when they when they look

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Speaker 6: in the mirror, they wish that they saw something else

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Speaker 6: and they they really don't. They probably will have a

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Speaker 6: moment of reckoning. And what they do with that moment

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Speaker 6: of reckoning either they will fall back and say, oh

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Speaker 6: my God, I deserve this because of you know, who

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Speaker 6: I am in the color of my skin, or maybe

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Speaker 6: they will change. You know, that's not for us. That's

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Speaker 6: between them and their God. And then the last are

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Speaker 6: people who I think believe it. I think that there

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Speaker 6: is a certain group of individuals fundamentally believe it. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they believe in Ronald Reagan, they believe in HW and w.

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Speaker 3: Bush.

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Speaker 6: They you know, they found some place in Magaland, and

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Speaker 6: they believe in those those conservative values that they hold true.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I look at people like Tim's out in Tremichael,

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Speaker 6: Tremichael swears by Ben Carson being you know, the conservative

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Speaker 6: kind of guiding light. I have more tolerance for those

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Speaker 6: people than I do the first two categories.

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Speaker 1: So my question about that, if we were to concede

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Speaker 1: to the three categories you laid out there, does it

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Speaker 1: make a difference what category if their function is that,

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Speaker 1: if the function of their presence is the same.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean the purpose of the categories was for

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Speaker 6: me to analyze them in my head.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Again, at the end, there's no functional difference in terms

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Speaker 6: of anti blackness, in terms of political ideals, in terms

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Speaker 6: of policy results, there's no tangible difference. However, I do

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Speaker 6: believe that outside of some of the higher level policy

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Speaker 6: ideals that we ruminate over some of the more tangible

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Speaker 6: things on the ground, there's one category that people who

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Speaker 6: just believe it. I think that all four of us

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Speaker 6: can have a more meaningful conversation about how to move

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Speaker 6: this entry forward with Shermichael than we can with Byron

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Speaker 6: Donald's or Jason wuck Well.

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Speaker 1: The problem I guess I have with that is that

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Speaker 1: when they are acting in group form, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of decisions and changes have to happen that way, you've

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Speaker 1: got to compel people to act with you in order

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Speaker 1: to accomplish a thing. When they are when they are

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01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: reduced to the base to do their base level act

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Speaker 1: of voting or advancing something, the outcome is still the same.

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Speaker 1: And so I understand your point around, Okay, these are

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Speaker 1: the opportunists, are these are the self haters? And then

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Speaker 1: these are the true believers, right, And and maybe I

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01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: can personally navigate a relationship one on one with one

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: particular type of that person more easily than another, possibly

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Speaker 1: the opportunistic one, because I see you coming, I know

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Speaker 1: what you want, and I know how you think you're

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01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: going to get there. But but, but, but but but

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Speaker 1: for the purposes of how it starts to land with

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Speaker 1: people every day, folks all across America, they are going

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Speaker 1: to act the same. And I'm only drilling down on

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Speaker 1: this because I've got political friends of a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: but political friends who are friends with Republicans, well know,

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Speaker 1: we all do. And then I see how they are

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Speaker 1: able to personally interact and then on social media wish

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Speaker 1: them happy birthdays and do all these really outwardly odd

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Speaker 1: things to me when I compare that when these same people,

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Speaker 1: these conservatives who they are lifting up, are in the

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Speaker 1: rooms where it matters that they they don't even believe

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Speaker 1: you out of band there, And so how do you,

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Speaker 1: how do.

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Speaker 3: I ask reconcile questions? Though, let me ask you two questions.

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Speaker 6: The first question is is is a serious one? The

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Speaker 6: second one is a little lighter. But the first question is,

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Speaker 6: how then do we deal with when that one group

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Speaker 6: that I'm talking about does something? For the best example

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Speaker 6: is Tim Scott calling a racist thing a racist thing.

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Speaker 1: That's good?

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Speaker 6: So for him, I mean, I know it is good.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so how do we how do we respond

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Speaker 6: to that?

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Speaker 3: And what now? I'm not saying he gets the Nobel

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Speaker 3: Peace Prize?

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Speaker 4: Is he coming on Macary? We could have talked to

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Speaker 4: him about it.

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Speaker 6: Soon, but I'm just saying, so should I is our response?

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Speaker 6: Is our response? Nonchalant? Is our response?

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Speaker 3: Or like white? What off the ducts back?

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Speaker 6: Or do we try to do something actionable, tangle tangible

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Speaker 6: to move this conversation forward.

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Speaker 1: I think it's fine if you wanted to go on

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Speaker 1: X and say I want to give Tim props props

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Speaker 1: for not today deciding not to stand in the insult,

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Speaker 1: not to just take the insult. I appreciate him being

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Speaker 1: self respecting enough. Finally, but you don't get the Nobel Prize,

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Speaker 1: and you may not even get well. First of all.

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Speaker 1: I ain't good. I ain't about it to salute you

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Speaker 1: to begin with, for doing the most base level thing

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Speaker 1: of defending yourself and maybe the children that you produce,

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Speaker 1: because they share a part of you right runs to them.

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Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't. I don't decry people who

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Speaker 1: who who say a certain person has done the thing

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Speaker 1: that I didn't think that they were capable of doing,

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Speaker 1: but say it that way. I thought he was incapable

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Speaker 1: of defending himself, and today he decided to stand up

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Speaker 1: for himself, and good good on you for that. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't, So I don't have a problem with that

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Speaker 1: so much as I do the cozying up that we do,

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Speaker 1: that then creates a permission structure for these people act

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Speaker 1: out where it matters and and there's no consequences because

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Speaker 1: I'm still about to be your friend, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: cozy up, and I'm gonna even give you the cover

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Speaker 1: of looking like an otherwise decent person in polite society.

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Speaker 1: Everything you do is apropos to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, Kevin, Kevin and it I mean all

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Speaker 3: three of you, guys.

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Speaker 6: My next question is just like there was recently a

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Speaker 6: clip where a white guy saw in Ice Asia and

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Speaker 6: was like, you just a house.

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Speaker 4: Nigga, and like not that that's not all right.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say it was all right, but I swear

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Speaker 6: it conflicted the hell out of me.

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Speaker 4: No white person go to a black eyes station.

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Speaker 3: It didn't really conflict me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot else. There's he

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Speaker 1: there's a large human vocabulary to choose that that's.

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Speaker 5: Not condone racism on any side of the hile or

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Speaker 5: anything in between. And I think that we have to

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Speaker 5: condemn these things. What I don't like is the red

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Speaker 5: herring that's been used to assume that some random ass

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Speaker 5: on the street is the same thing as the president

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Speaker 5: of these United States posting the goddamn video of the

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Speaker 5: former president of the United States, where who he also

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Speaker 5: just says should be arrested. And we had more smoke

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Speaker 5: for the ape commentary than we did for him say

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Speaker 5: that he thinks.

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Speaker 4: That the president of the former president of the United.

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Speaker 5: States, who actually did earn and win a Nobel Peace Prize,

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Speaker 5: should be arrested. Furthermore, I take issue with the fact

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Speaker 5: that we've not made I think we all have, but

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Speaker 5: we don't consistently make the connection between their biggest hero,

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Speaker 5: which is Ronald Reagan, who they regularly champion, is if

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Speaker 5: he's not the originator of Make America great Again, As

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Speaker 5: if he's not the one who supported a very racist,

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 5: toxic regime in South Africa called apartheid, As if he's

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 5: not someone who adamantly and actively opposed affirmative action, as

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Speaker 5: if he did not get Angela Davis fired from her

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Speaker 5: job at UCLA and worked to frame her after that.

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Speaker 5: I was just at a panel discussion where she spoke

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Speaker 5: to Isaiah Thomas this past weekend in the Bay and

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Speaker 5: she says that Ronald Reagan was trying to get her killed.

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Speaker 4: Right, These are their heroes.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump is a manifestation and outgrowth of their heroes.

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Speaker 5: The Heritage Foundation is a child, a seedling of Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 5: That is the creator, the entity that holds Project twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five. These policies are old as the party itself.

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Speaker 5: So I just take issue with that Barack Obama say,

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Speaker 5: the first racist thing they said or did about Barack Obama,

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Speaker 5: he was Barack the Magic micro Remember that ad they

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Speaker 5: ran that in two thousand and eight. Like, we're very

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Speaker 5: clear about who these people are and I don't think

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Speaker 5: that we should escape from that or give them any

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Speaker 5: cover from that.

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Speaker 4: And know, even if somebody who is trying to.

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Speaker 5: Be a liberal fire thrower and if they use racist language,

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Speaker 5: they should be taken down for that too. I don't

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Speaker 5: support limousine liberals, and I won't call them or broke

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Speaker 5: ass liberals. I won't call them progressives because that's not

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Speaker 5: the way of moving forward. And so I think all

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Speaker 5: of that has to be called out, and we have

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Speaker 5: to be unequivocal in our calling out of these things,

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Speaker 5: because otherwise we now have blood on our hands. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not doing that for I ain't covered for nobody,

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Speaker 5: racist and white. I ain't doing it ever.

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Speaker 1: Back to your Tim Scott example, Tim Scott voted right

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Speaker 1: to move more black people off of healthcare, Medicare and Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: the Big, Big Bowl, Beautiful whatever bill. He supported the

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Speaker 1: largest seismic shift in wealth away from working class and

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Speaker 1: poor folk toward the wealthy than we have ever seen

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Speaker 1: in the history of this country. He did that through law,

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Speaker 1: through legislation, and so all I'm saying is that I

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Speaker 1: think that the name the reason why the name calling matters,

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Speaker 1: and the policy matters as well, and our heat ought

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Speaker 1: to be intense on across across the board is that

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Speaker 1: sometimes we don't make the connection that the belief system,

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Speaker 1: the words that they use, that they manifest out of

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Speaker 1: their mouths to insult us into the human eye, to

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Speaker 1: not dehumanize us, goes directly to then the action that

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Speaker 1: they take. If you're a regular citizen, it's the action

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Speaker 1: you took to vote for Donald Trump. If you're a policymaker,

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Speaker 1: it's the action that you take that reinforces in humanity

1290
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: when you take away food, food assistance, housing, shelter, healthcare,

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Speaker 1: and all the other things that you think we can

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Speaker 1: be stripped of of because we're undeserving. So but all

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Speaker 1: of it speaks of the same. It's the through line, Bacard,

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: to steal your phrase that these things aren't happening in

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Speaker 1: silos and in a bucket, that you know, the truth

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Speaker 1: is is that everything is everything. Thank you uh uh

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Speaker 1: to our sister Angela for forgiving us that I'm talking about, Yatti,

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Speaker 1: you and I sister Yatti who actually gave me that

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Speaker 1: gift of the phrase that everything is everything. I'm indivisible,

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Speaker 1: So I'm indivisible. That means when I love that too,

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01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: then you know. But but but when you call me

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Speaker 1: a nigga and then on the same side you strip

1303
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: away healthcare from me, they're not disconnected. Everything is everything.

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01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: Everything is everything. So I just think we got we

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: ought to have the heat for for a slur toward

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01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: us should not outweigh the heat that we have when

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01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: they strip, when they reinforce that belief that slur through

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01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: public policy and the decisions that they make, whether it's

1309
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: as a pedestrian citizen voting or as a policy maker

1310
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Speaker 1: creating the laws that we all have to live under.

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Speaker 5: This is a brief, just a little pinpoint, because I

1312
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 5: know we have to move on. But I will say

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Speaker 5: we are.

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Speaker 1: Actually in our main topic. I just didn't announce it.

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about racist.

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01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 4: We've been here for a minute.

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Speaker 5: I was going to just say that, you know, where

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 5: I'm from, in Washington State and Seattle, people always commend

1319
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 5: how progressive it is.

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 4: And the thing that you hear from my dad.

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01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 5: The most is like black people get zero point zero

1322
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 5: one percent of all of state contracts in the state.

1323
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 5: Right where it hits us is economically, it hits us

1324
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 5: in our paychecks. They will put up a block Black

1325
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 5: Lives Matter sign in their yard and still treat you

1326
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: like you are, like it's separate but an equal. And

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 5: I think that is the type of reckoning that has

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01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: to happen in this country, where it's not just you know,

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 5: you're getting the southern hospitality of a high how are you,

1330
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 5: or you're getting the solidarity of a sign posted like

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 5: At some point, the policies have to match the words

1332
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 5: that you speak, and we would prefer that they are

1333
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 5: more complimentary, they are more respectful, and you are giving

1334
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 5: us our just do the things that we have earned,

1335
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: reparative justice, reparations, all of the things that we know

1336
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 5: we are deserving of and have worked for in this country.

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 5: You can't call us lazy after we worked for free

1338
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 5: for hundreds of years.

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1340
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Speaker 5: These are the kinds of things that must change. And

1341
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 5: I think that we have to call out the racism

1342
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: in policy. We got to call out the racism and

1343
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 5: racist tropes and memes. We have to call out the language.

1344
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 5: All of those things are violent and we should not

1345
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 5: take it. There should be no pause whatsoever for any

1346
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 5: of us, regardless of what side of the aw we

1347
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 5: sit in on calling this out.

1348
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 4: When you see Jewish folks.

1349
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 5: They are unequivocal in combating anti semitism, even when it

1350
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 5: ain't anti Semitism, I mean, even when it's not yeah,

1351
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 5: anti Semitic. So like, what where is that courage for us?

1352
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 5: Why are we so afraid to speak up and protect ourselves?

1353
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 5: Are we struggling with worthiness? And then to the point

1354
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 5: that Kevin brought up earlier, around our Latino brothers and sisters,

1355
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 5: if there's not enough of us, certainly this is where

1356
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: the Rainbow Coalition should be leaning in. Certainly we should

1357
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 5: be standing up when we see racist actions taken by

1358
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 5: ICE against our Latino brothers and sisters, and they should

1359
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: be speaking up when they see racist should happen with

1360
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 5: law enforcement on the state or local level, you know,

1361
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 5: or from elected officials. I'm thinking about the La City Council.

1362
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 5: That kind of thing should never happen.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Angela, I think sometimes it isn't people's lack

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: of courage and sort of confronting, particularly on the on

1365
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: the tropes and slurs piece for a lot of us,

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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: and I hear it my you know, myself, family members,

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01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: and otherwise, like what y'all expect. We already knew he

1368
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: was this, this is is that, and a third And

1369
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: I guess if I were to make the case, it

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01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: would be the reason why we can't show lack of

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: impact or just sort of a thing is what it

1372
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: is is because of of what that trope or that

1373
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: slur then enables in other people that then starts to

1374
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: show up as consequence for the rest of us, for

1375
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: you and for everyone else. The reason why it has

1376
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: to matter is because it isn't a thing that's isolated.

1377
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: It isn't the thing into itself. It's because that line

1378
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: of thinking is what then interst people's subconscious which then

1379
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: starts to dictate how they act, what they do, how

1380
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: they respond. And undoubtedly that's going to show up on

1381
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: your doorstep, whether it's on whether they believe your pain

1382
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: when you are giving birth or they believe the trope

1383
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: that you don't experience pain, or that you make shit

1384
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: up about your pain just because you're drug addicted. Right

1385
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: so there you know, you know, because they believe you

1386
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: to be drug addicted all these things. It isn't in isolation.

1387
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: We have to show response because the absence of it

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: is what then creates the allowance for the rest of

1389
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: this system. To continue to perpetuation.

1390
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 7: I just want to say it just to add to

1391
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 7: what Andrew just said, is it's really important for people

1392
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 7: to respond, especially now when we're watching the way. That's

1393
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 7: because maga's biggest focus is the next generation. It's about

1394
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 7: making sure that this movement doesn't die with the JD

1395
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 7: Vanceers or Donald Trump's that and that's why they're attacking education,

1396
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 7: and that's why groups like Mom's Liberty are taking.

1397
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: Over school boards across the country.

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Speaker 7: They're starting at the smallest level and taking over our

1399
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 7: education system so that we can weed out any lessons

1400
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 7: to be learned from these tropes. Their aim is that

1401
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 7: kids never know that this is a racist trope, and

1402
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 7: that they normalize this again, and that this kind of

1403
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 7: language becomes.

1404
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: It becomes a social norm again.

1405
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,480
Speaker 1: It is consensual.

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 7: And so I think it is important that every chance

1407
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 7: we get that we respond, that we react, that we

1408
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 7: teach our kids. You know, I think it's on all

1409
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 7: of us to make sure that we don't let these

1410
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 7: things because again, it is easier for older folks to

1411
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 7: be like, well, you know, we've known Donald Trump's a.

1412
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: Racince the seventies, but we can't let that slip by.

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01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: And I mean I think we I mean to your point, Kevin,

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01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 6: I mean that's a brilliant point. I mean, to talk

1415
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 6: about something tangibly happening right before our eyes during Black

1416
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 6: History Month. I always mess his name up Byron dallya

1417
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 6: bedquith who murdered MegaR Evers. I mean they are now

1418
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 6: sanitizing that history. You can't call them a racist. He

1419
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 6: was a member of the KKK. He literally was a

1420
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 6: member of the KKK right and and that type of

1421
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 6: that type of rewriting, whitewashing, bastardizing, perverting our history is

1422
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 6: going to damage our country for the future.

1423
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, carry It was believed earlier this week that

1424
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: Florida law, because of its it's it's its laws around

1425
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: extracting race in certain terms, racial terms away from curricula,

1426
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: Florida A and M University thought that earlier this week that

1427
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't use the word black.

1428
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 3: I saw that whatever happened with that, Andrew.

1429
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: So well, they basically end up saying, Okay, no, the

1430
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: word black is not contrary to what the state law is.

1431
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: But the bigger.

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: Point is is that how many days, even a second moments,

1433
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: belief that we were disqualified from using the term black,

1434
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: just just the sting of that. The harm, I guess

1435
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying the harm is already done simply by the

1436
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 1: fact that it takes a couple of hours and a

1437
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: couple of days to figure out in the month of

1438
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: Black History or frankly, any of the three sixty five

1439
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: a year, that you can't say black as a racial term,

1440
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: that you can't use that in curricula and in class

1441
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: discussion and so on and so forth. And if a

1442
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: university can be confused about how state law around this

1443
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 1: can be applied, what you think is happening in these education,

1444
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: public care through swold systems throughout the entire state, where

1445
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: folks aren't even questioning whether or not it's against the

1446
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: law or is against the law. There's no ambiguity there.

1447
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: They just come down on the side of safe. They

1448
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: come down on the side of I don't want the

1449
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: teacher fired, and so we're not going to use that.

1450
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: It's a convenient confusion, though, and it's around now a

1451
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 5: historical like a written version of ethnic cleansing. They don't

1452
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 5: want to be accountable to what they did to our

1453
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 5: people in this country, or to any group that suffered

1454
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: in this country, and we just cannot go for it.

1455
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 5: I know that many of us sit in privilege with

1456
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 5: books on our shelves. You know, we were raised in

1457
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 5: environments and in homes where learning our history was encouraged.

1458
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: But there are so many of these kids now where

1459
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 5: they're not exposed to that. And so we have an obligate,

1460
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 5: a violent, you know, like visceral obligation to protecting what

1461
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 5: we know.

1462
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: Is true, and not just for the words right, not

1463
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: just for the sake of being able to see the

1464
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: word on the page or that part of history retold,

1465
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: but precisely because if they don't know the harm created,

1466
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: then they'll never believe that there ought to be a repair.

1467
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: The randy, never the commitment to a remy. There is

1468
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: a generational white folks who believe that they have some

1469
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: repair to do. There are people who do believe that

1470
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: there has to be atonement for the harms that have

1471
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: been caused, which is why we were able to see

1472
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: some of the programming visa federal government laws and programs

1473
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: that were introduced by way of that. But by and large,

1474
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: if you erase people's obligation to repair, if they don't

1475
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: have to, if they don't ever have to know the

1476
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: history that created such condition, they'll never feel any obligation

1477
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: whatsoever or believe in what is our obligation to see

1478
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: remedy saw and had. So it's not an isolation. They

1479
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: don't want to just erase the history because they don't

1480
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: want them books. They don't want their kids to feel

1481
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: any commitment, any obligation for the repair.

1482
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 5: While we are talking about repair, one of the things

1483
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 5: that we know too is this country has its own

1484
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 5: history with internment camps, thinking about Japanese internment, and as

1485
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 5: we sit here in Black History Month, we are witnessing

1486
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 5: people who are black, who are brown, who are Asian,

1487
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: who are also white, who are being held in you know,

1488
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 5: modern day internment camps.

1489
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 4: And so I want to.

1490
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: If we can, Andrew pivot to you this recent pro

1491
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 5: public apiece where there were letters shared from young people

1492
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 5: who are currently detained by ICE, and there's one where

1493
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 5: we can actually hear the words from the young lady herself,

1494
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 5: a fourteen year old Venezuelan girl, and I also hope

1495
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 5: that we would also read the letters. The link is

1496
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 5: over here in the chat if you I need to

1497
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 5: see to pick a letter to read. But I think

1498
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 5: we should read letters, and then maybe we can end

1499
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 5: with Arianna in with Arianna's letter, and then absolutely we

1500
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 5: get to cetas. So I guess I can start. I'm

1501
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 5: going to read a letter from a nine year old

1502
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 5: su Susie sorry, sussage susage Sorry, I don't know how

1503
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 5: to pronounce. This is s us e j F, a

1504
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 5: nine year old from Venezuela who's living in Houston, Texas,

1505
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 5: detained for fifty days, and this is her letter. Hello,

1506
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 5: my name iss susage f is what it says. I'm

1507
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 5: sorry if I'm mispronouncing. And I am nine years old.

1508
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 5: I am from Venezuela. I have been fifty days in

1509
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: Delley Immigration Processing Center and I want to go to

1510
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 5: my country, but I missed my school and my friends.

1511
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 5: I feel bad since when I came here to this

1512
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 5: place because I have been here too long. I have

1513
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 5: been two years and six months in United States, and

1514
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 5: I was happy with my friends in the school, but

1515
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 5: now I need to leave.

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01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 4: I miss my family and my country.

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01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 5: So now I want to go to Venezuela, but my

1518
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 5: mom do not want to leave because she wants a

1519
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 5: better future for me, seeing how people like me immigrants

1520
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 5: are being treated changes.

1521
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 4: My perspective about the US.

1522
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 5: My mom and I came to the US looking for

1523
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: a good and safe place to live, and my mom

1524
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 5: was looking for a good job.

1525
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 6: I can read Gabby MM, if you'd like me to

1526
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 6: please Ohla. My name is Gabby MM. I'm fourteen years

1527
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 6: old from Colombia, Colombia. I've been detained in Dali Immigration

1528
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 6: Processing Center for twenty days and I haven't been getting

1529
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 6: the right education due to being in here. I haven't

1530
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 6: been able to see my family and friends since I

1531
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 6: got here. I started to feel so sad. Also, I

1532
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 6: haven't felt happy since I got here. The officers have

1533
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 6: a bad manner of speaking to residents when they're asking anything.

1534
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: The workers treat the residents unhumanly verbally, and I don't

1535
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,520
Speaker 6: want to imagine how they would act if they were unsupervised.

1536
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 6: I really want to go home. I don't care if

1537
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 6: I have to go to Katie or Columbia, because in

1538
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 6: both places I have a home. In school, I get

1539
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 6: bored a lot and I don't know what to do.

1540
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 6: I made friends here and they told me how how

1541
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 6: long they've been here for seven months, and I get

1542
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 6: really surprised because I can't imagine how bad and sad

1543
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 6: and stressed being here. I want to tell you guys

1544
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 6: how I feel, and it's hell like I really want

1545
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 6: to go. The food is bad. I'm tired of almost

1546
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 6: the same thing. I feel so much sadness and depression

1547
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 6: of not being able to leave. It's really sad to

1548
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 6: hear that people's cases are being denied and getting sinned

1549
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 6: back to their countries. Gabby MM is a fourteen year

1550
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 6: old from Colombia who was living in here Houston, Texas,

1551
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 6: detained for twenty days.

1552
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 7: I'll read this one from a young girl named Mia.

1553
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 7: It's written in Spanish. I'll read it piece by piece

1554
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 7: and just quickly translated. She wrote, Mia Valentina pas Faria

1555
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 7: yoso Venezuela tondongos so. Her name is Mia. She's been

1556
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 7: living in the US for three years and she's only

1557
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 7: seven years old. Uh dengo set a la raqui keo

1558
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 7: ame aguelauelos. She said she's been in detention for seventy days.

1559
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 7: She doesn't want to be there anymore. She said she

1560
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 7: misses her grandparents xangos a misamegos aquiuela. She said she

1561
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 7: misses her school. She misses her friends, and she doesn't

1562
01:23:50,920 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 7: like the foodentogarikio, the aquigo, amistios, esperos. She just keeps repeating,

1563
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 7: I don't want to be here anymore. I miss my

1564
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 7: uncles and I hope that I can leave soon.

1565
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 2: And she drove. She drew a picture excuse me, of herself,

1566
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: her mother and her sister.

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01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: HM. You know, just for the benefit of our listeners.

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01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 1: This is a part of a great reporting work done

1569
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: by Pro pro Publica. The reporter here was Mika Rosenberg,

1570
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: and she visiting this facility, asked the detainees if their

1571
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: children would be willing to either write letters or indoor

1572
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: draw pictures depicting what their experiences had been there at Dilli.

1573
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: And what you heard from my co hosts were a

1574
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: few of the reflections we obviously for you all on

1575
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: the listening side couldn't see the images of the pictures

1576
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: that were drawn, but we will include them in the

1577
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: show notes. A link to the Pro Publica article and

1578
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: you can go back and have a look at the

1579
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: letters that are that are that are held there and

1580
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: the pictures that they have drawn.

1581
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 4: Andrew, can we listen to the letter from I was

1582
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 4: just going to.

1583
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Say we'll end with Ariana's will end with the contribution

1584
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: as Angela just indicated from Ariana.

1585
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 19: Hello, my name is Ariana Vie. I'm fourteen years old

1586
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 19: and I'm from Honduras. I've been detained for forty five days,

1587
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 19: and I have never felt so much fear to go

1588
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 19: to a place as I feel here. Every time, I

1589
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 19: remind myself that once I go back to Honduras, a

1590
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 19: lot of dangerous things could happen to my mom and I.

1591
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 19: My younger siblings haven't been able to see their mom

1592
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 19: in more than a month. They're very young and you

1593
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 19: need both of your parents when you're growing up. Since

1594
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 19: I got to the center, all you will feel is

1595
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 19: sadness and mostly depression. When people have their court, the

1596
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 19: longest they will last is fifteen minutes. Our writs are

1597
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 19: not being provided. The rest are happening when people don't

1598
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 19: even have any type of arrest order. Arrest are happening illegally.

1599
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,919
Speaker 19: It's sad to hear that people's caves are being denied

1600
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 19: and are getting sent back to their count places where

1601
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 19: they're escaping from and are looking for protection and want

1602
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 19: to feel safe. Not a lot of people know what

1603
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 19: is happening in the centers where immigrants are placed that

1604
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 19: I haven't been getting any school time either or the

1605
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 19: other kids in here. Every single person in here have

1606
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 19: their jobs, they have their lives. They are in danger

1607
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 19: for this country. I've been in this country for almost

1608
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 19: seven years, and in those seven years, my mom and

1609
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 19: I found a home and made a bigger family. I

1610
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 19: have never been separated from my siblings, and it's honestly

1611
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 19: sad because they're little and they need their mom and

1612
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 19: their sister. Yeah, they're with their dad, but it's still

1613
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 19: different for them and my mom. Since the day my

1614
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 19: mom and I got detained in Manhattan, New York, my

1615
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 19: life was instantly paused. From my knowledge, you can't be

1616
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 19: under custody for more than fifteen or twenty days. Well,

1617
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 19: here in daily immigration processing center, people have been in

1618
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 19: this place for seven five months. For the two months,

1619
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 19: it's not fair that the ice officers are not following

1620
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 19: the laws. All kids are being damaged mentally. They witness

1621
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 19: how their parents and other people are being treated. They

1622
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,480
Speaker 19: don't have schools or doctors. All they have are nurses.

1623
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 19: If you need medical attention, the longest you have to

1624
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 19: wait is three hours, but to get any medicine pilled

1625
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 19: or anything. It takes a while. There are various viruses

1626
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 19: in here. People are always sick. Serious situations happen, and

1627
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 19: the officers can't take them serious enough. There are no consequences.

1628
01:27:58,320 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 19: They don't even care.

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: M Jesus. Yeah, those of us who are out there thinking, uh,

1630
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, why does this?

1631
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: You know, why does this matter?

1632
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: And why does it matter to me? You certainly know

1633
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: at least ought to know that if they could do,

1634
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: if you could, if we can witness this for any

1635
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: group of people in this country. It's proven, it's been

1636
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: shown that those harms can and likely will be visited

1637
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: upon us. Right this is This country does have a

1638
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 1: history of internment. It's done it before, it is doing

1639
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: it again.

1640
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 3: We also have a.

1641
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: History of enslavement and discrimination and racism and so much more.

1642
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: More importantly, I think the democracies like the United States

1643
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: of America, which you used to stand as a beacon,

1644
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: has laws asylum laws included, which make way for these

1645
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: kinds of people to make their way to the country

1646
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: and to be able to establish a life that doesn't

1647
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: take anything from us, but does extend the opportunity for

1648
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: them and that's all being snuffed out right before our eyes.

1649
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: So I hope folks will check out the article with

1650
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: Pro Publica, and thank you from us here at Native

1651
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: Lampid to the folks at Pro Publica for the really

1652
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: incredible work that you all do on this subject and

1653
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: so many others. Now we're gonna try to pretention real

1654
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: quick to our CTAs who cares about truth.

1655
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 20: In the last morning it.

1656
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: It's been a real active week y'all. A lot going on.

1657
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what's on your mind. What are

1658
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: you reading, What are you admonishing folks to do? What? What?

1659
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 1: What parties would you put in front of our listeners

1660
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: if they were going they're going to be listening to you.

1661
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 3: What do you.

1662
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Say with our guest hosts?

1663
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you. So I just want to remind people.

1664
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 7: I think oftentimes we forget so that when something is

1665
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 7: no longer trending, that things continue to happen. We're seeing

1666
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 7: that happen in Gaza. Media coverage of Gaza has fallen

1667
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 7: eighty five percent since the so called ceasefire, which is

1668
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,480
Speaker 7: not a real thing because more than five hundred Palestinians

1669
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 7: have been killed. It's important to keep focus on things

1670
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 7: past when they are trendy, and the same goes for

1671
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 7: what's happening here in the US. Families in Minnesota are

1672
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 7: still afraid to leave their homes. Many families, even those

1673
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 7: with legal status, are not going to work, they're not

1674
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 7: going to school because they're afraid of being racially profiled

1675
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 7: and suffering violence at the hands of ICE agents. So

1676
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 7: they're relying on their neighbors. So I do want to

1677
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 7: quickly plug. I hope that this is okay. There's a

1678
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 7: mutual aid network that was launched in Minnesota. It's called

1679
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 7: Neighbors Helping Neighbors, and so they are collecting donations. You

1680
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,959
Speaker 7: can also volunteer with them, and they are bringing groceries

1681
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 7: to families who are relying on them. And I know

1682
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 7: that Lolo the producers also mentioned the Minnesota Freedom Fund.

1683
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 7: So any organizations or places that are local on the

1684
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 7: ground helping. When our media may be focusing on monkey memes,

1685
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 7: you know these things are still happening and it's important

1686
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 7: that we try and pitch on the help.

1687
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: Appreciate that.

1688
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 6: But carey February fourteenth, to find somebody to love, rededicate you.

1689
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: You told everybody about a break up before. Aren't they

1690
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: all broken up?

1691
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 3: Well, technically you're supposed to break up before Christmas. If

1692
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 3: you hear now, you stuck. You're supposed to get.

1693
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 6: Back with your girl after Valentine's Day.

1694
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 3: You stuck met to call the cheesecake factory reservations.

1695
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 4: Page and Ellen, come get your man please.

1696
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 6: I got it, and make sure make sure if you're married,

1697
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 6: post it on Instagram because they don't like when you

1698
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 6: don't do that.

1699
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: But just a random note.

1700
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 6: I actually think that that people have been hurting so much,

1701
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 6: they have been going through so much, they've been seeing

1702
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 6: so much, and so I know it's an artificial holiday

1703
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 6: that people don't care. We spend a lot of money

1704
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 6: on doing absolutely nothing in candies and stuff. It's his

1705
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 6: own own cottage industry. But my call to action is

1706
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 6: just use it as a data. Remind you to spread

1707
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 6: a little love and cheer this week. I know for

1708
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 6: people like Angela, sometimes that may be tough. But Angela,

1709
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 6: I love you. You should say it back. Love you

1710
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 6: be Oh you go hard, See how it feels there

1711
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 6: you go.

1712
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 5: I don't know why he said that. I don't like

1713
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 5: to love people. That's very hard. I do, I do,

1714
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 5: I do love, heart, ride or die for y'all with

1715
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 5: toeto wheels fall off.

1716
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 4: I guess that means I'm next.

1717
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 5: I want to deepen into like the super Bowl experience

1718
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 5: for us, not just because we won, but my best

1719
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 5: friend and I Nick, if you could put up my picture,

1720
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 5: we went to the super Bowl in twenty fifteen and

1721
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 5: it was a traumatic experience the Seahawks loss, but we

1722
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 5: did cherish the moment and we have a picture that

1723
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 5: Nick is going to put up any moment now of

1724
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 5: us kind of enjoying the super Bowl experience. Then that

1725
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 5: was us then, and that it was like, we need

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Speaker 5: to recreate the moment. So we recreated the moment. Sitting

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Speaker 5: in this wee we were the last ones there, nobody

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Speaker 5: else cared to be there anymore. At the end of

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Speaker 5: the party, well kind of. She has on some dyemails

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01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 5: on her jacket. Mine is just like a bootleg situation.

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Speaker 5: But nonetheless, one thing that you can see is black

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Speaker 5: doesn't crack.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it gets better.

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Speaker 1: Get over time, get it.

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Speaker 5: But yes, I don't know why it looks like I

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01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 5: have lip filler. I don't, but maybe the duck face

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01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 5: went too far. The point is I want you all

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Speaker 5: to really make sure that these experiences that you think

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01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 5: you know they cost too much, or you don't have time,

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01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 5: or you're too busy, make sure that you take time

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01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 5: to really spend time with your loved ones. It's so important.

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01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 5: My dad just this past Monday got rear ended and

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01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 5: we spent hours in the emergency room.

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01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:43,959
Speaker 4: His blood pressure skyrocket.

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01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 5: Is sorry, daddy, I'm telling all your business and violating him,

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01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 5: but you can't sue me. But like it just it

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01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 5: was such a flash, like we just were at the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl the night before and the very next day

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Speaker 5: we're in an emergency. And so you just don't time

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01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 5: is always short. You don't know tomorrow's I promise you

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01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 5: don't know if you'll have this experience again the wine

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01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 5: and said tomorrow. Don't wait for tomorrow. Do it all today.

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Speaker 5: Live your life, yolo, Drake. I'll never quote your ask

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01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 5: again because I don't know what type of time you want.

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Speaker 5: I saw you just followed Donald Trump. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 5: about that next time. But I'm just saying. I'm just

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01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 5: saying that we need to make sure that we live

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01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 5: it up, like do it big, because this is.

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Speaker 4: All we got. We got one shot at this. So

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Speaker 4: love your people.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Angela. I actually fod it. Funnily enough,

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Speaker 1: my UH topic was going to be similar. This past weekend,

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Speaker 1: my kids had a Jack and Jilivant and we're being

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Speaker 1: taught Bakar, you'd appreciate this, I'm not, but AI. Basically,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to introduce these artificial.

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Speaker 5: Intellig white people listening at home Jack and also in the.

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Speaker 1: I did not get called I did not grow up

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Speaker 1: in But I am extremely appreciative of what they are

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Speaker 1: doing by way ofposing my children to experiences and trainings

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Speaker 1: and learnings that that their mother and I probably on

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01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: our own wouldn't have thought about. So, but the security

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01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: risks around artificial intelligence too. Also, what you see isn't

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01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: always what's what's true and what's what what's real. So

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01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 1: I wanted to show my kid. My youngest Davis decided

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01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: UH during the training that he was going to take

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Speaker 1: to the booth at uh FAM used Developmental Research School

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Speaker 1: and become a podcaster. UH. He sees my office and

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01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: is always trying to mimic me. One of the exercises

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01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: he got to do was to to to podcast a

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Speaker 1: little bit. So that's the image from the studio there

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Speaker 1: at the Developmental.

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Speaker 3: Research School work for have you.

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Speaker 1: But but what that reminded me of is just these

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01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: these precious moments, Angela that you were talking about, that

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01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: our kids, even when we're not even trying to teach

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01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: them a lesson, are constantly absorbing from us to the

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01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: point that he wants to be a podcaster, and then

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01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: another day he wants to be a mayor, and another

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01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 1: day he wants to be an actor or a musician,

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01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: which I ain't none of them, and so you know

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01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: who knows, but there were so they're so impression and

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01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: they just want to they want to reflect us. And

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01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: so just be mindful, whether you're a parent or a

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01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: funtee or a funcle, godparent, whatever the role you may be,

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Speaker 1: the kids are watching watch what you do.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: You know what else, I hope the kids know that

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Speaker 5: even though they're not old enough to vote in the

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Speaker 5: Native Lamppod is definitely in there and we definitely would

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