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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is a

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Speaker 1: great fire fan. It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday, November.

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Speaker 1: We are inching closer to the World Cup. We had

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Speaker 1: the great podcast yesterday with Alexei lalas former U S

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Speaker 1: then we got hit after the podcast dropped like six

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Speaker 1: Just some two stunners, absolute stunners. I'll get to in

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Speaker 1: great guest today, Bruce Felman, college football guy. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about Michigan Ohio State. What the hell's the

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Speaker 1: deal with TCU? It's a spirited college football chatter. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of a It's okay weekend in college football.

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Speaker 1: Next weekend is very good and then of course Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: that stuff with Feldman. I will touch on the Thursday

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Speaker 1: night football game. Not a good one. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do any NBA today. A little disappointed in

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Speaker 1: saw the score quickly scanned it. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: the U S national team, so you guys could tell

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Speaker 1: him into soccer, right. I have a minority steak in

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Speaker 1: a team in Liga MX, ni Coosa. Obviously. I follow

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Speaker 1: I like soccer. I played soccer. I play some dad soccer,

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Speaker 1: And here he is now but basically with the team

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Speaker 1: And I would say that applies to Paul Ariola, who

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Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes

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Speaker 1: A guy you guys know college football, Maven Reporter. He's

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Speaker 1: tough one this weekend Indiana house date. Bruce Feldman, how

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Speaker 1: Ohio State plays Indiana, so you know, next week, Michigan

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Speaker 1: has Illinois, who was pretty good, but you know, it'd

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Speaker 1: be surprised if there's somebody who gets knocked off before

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Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, Illinois, I don't know if they're a

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Speaker 1: paper tiger or not. They've got some great defensive stats,

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Speaker 1: but against a weak competition. It's interesting in your article

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Speaker 1: about Biff he is kind of everybody has like a

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Speaker 1: guy behind the guy who they lean on, and it

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Speaker 1: seems like a lot has changed since he's kind of

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Speaker 1: got involved, if you will, in the offense. UM, I

433
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Speaker 1: am curious though, do you think this year's Michigan is

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Speaker 1: better than last year's Michigan because they were awesome last year?

435
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Speaker 1: Right then they go to the playoff and we know

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Speaker 1: what happened against a loaded Georgia team. Can this team

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Speaker 1: get over the hump we've seen, you know, Michigan sets

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Speaker 1: of good runs. Obviously, these last two years are as

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Speaker 1: good as it gets. For Harbor. I think where they're

440
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Speaker 1: better is on offense. They're more dangerous. So defensively you

441
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Speaker 1: had three first round picks off that group. Obviously, Aidan

442
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Speaker 1: Hutchinson was the was the headliner. Defensively, they're still really,

443
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Speaker 1: really good. Mozzy Smith in the middle of the defensive

444
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Speaker 1: line was the number one guy in our Freaks list.

445
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Speaker 1: He is a dominant player inside. They've had some other

446
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Speaker 1: edge guys emerge. They've had younger players on the defense

447
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: who can really run, step up where I think they're better.

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Speaker 1: They were really good on the offensive line there. I

449
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Speaker 1: think they're even better this year on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Blay core Um and Donovan Edwards is a different kind

451
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Speaker 1: of one two punch than than Donovan than Blake core

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Speaker 1: um Um last year with Hassan Haskins, where it was

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Speaker 1: like two really physical runners. Now you have a really

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Speaker 1: physical runner who's really shifty and Blake Corum and then

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Speaker 1: a home run hitter. I don't want to say he's

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, but Donovan Edwards is a lightning kind of

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Speaker 1: player and he is you know again, I'm around Reggie

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Speaker 1: every week, so it's in my head. But like he

459
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Speaker 1: is a guy who could be a receiver. Amazed him

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Speaker 1: as such. And the receiving corps is way deeper now

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Speaker 1: than it was last year because and in large part,

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Speaker 1: they got Ronnie Bell, who is their best receiver and

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Speaker 1: most reliable receiver who missed all last year because of injury.

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Speaker 1: He's back there deeper. The quarterback JJ is a fast kid.

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Speaker 1: He might be sub four five, so he can burn defenses.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kaide was a good player. I think I

467
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Speaker 1: think j J ultimately a little more talented player. So

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Speaker 1: we'll find out, because I mean, you know they're gonna

469
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Speaker 1: get an Ohio State team you know that is better

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Speaker 1: on defense than the one that kind of limped into

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Speaker 1: that matchup last year in the snow in ann Arbor. Well,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the snow. I was gonna go to last

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Speaker 1: week's Ohio State game against Northwestern. I know the weather

474
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Speaker 1: was not good, but I had an Ohio State buddy

475
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Speaker 1: here who lives near us, just kind of nervous his hell,

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Speaker 1: seeing how poorly they played in the weather, and like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know last year's snow against Michigan,

478
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Speaker 1: we got destroyed. I don't is Ohio State built to

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Speaker 1: handle bad weather against Michigan. You look at the physically,

480
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Speaker 1: see them in person. They have a massive offensive line

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Speaker 1: um and they have two talented running backs. Now one

482
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Speaker 1: of them, Trevion Henderson, who's the more dynamic back, was

483
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Speaker 1: not able to play last week. Mayan Williams is this

484
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Speaker 1: kind of bowling ball Who's who I think in some

485
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: ways fits them. I think he's I don't say more

486
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Speaker 1: to what they need, but like he's the guy where

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Speaker 1: you feel like, Okay, he's going to go north south,

488
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Speaker 1: whereas sometimes I think people around the conference think Michigan.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ohio State tends to run east west a

490
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Speaker 1: little maybe more than maybe you know, losing something in

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Speaker 1: their identity. You know, you sit there even without Jackson

492
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Speaker 1: Smith and Jig. But who's barely played this season, Martin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Jr. You know, a number two guy on our

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Speaker 1: Freaks list, by the way, right behind Mozzie Smith. He's

495
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Speaker 1: the He is the most gifted physical receiver that Ohio

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Speaker 1: State has has had in this run. Now we can

497
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Speaker 1: talk about you know, Terry McLaurin, and we can talk

498
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Speaker 1: about the two rookies who came out and obviously Michael

499
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Speaker 1: Thomas has been you know, terrific in his career in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is bigger, he's probably faster,

501
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Speaker 1: he's stronger. Um, he is a special talent. They got

502
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Speaker 1: a bunch of other dudes who are really really good too. Um.

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Speaker 1: But right now they have not we have not seen

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Speaker 1: their best game yet and we're going to see if

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Speaker 1: they can get to that point. I mean, right, I

506
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Speaker 1: can see why Ohio State fans are getting a little bit,

507
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Speaker 1: a little bit nervous about this team. Well, they're also

508
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Speaker 1: been spoiled, right, They've dominated Michigan and then all of

509
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Speaker 1: a sudden they lose last year. Now the running backs

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Speaker 1: injured and can we just call him j s n

511
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Speaker 1: is down? He has five catches on the year. Well,

512
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Speaker 1: what's the deal are they? Are they just holding him

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Speaker 1: out waiting for the Michigan game. I think it's with

514
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Speaker 1: a hamstring. No, he played, we had them against Penn State.

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Speaker 1: He was back in that game, but I think he

516
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Speaker 1: got a little bit um was a little gimpy at

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Speaker 1: that point, and they shut him back down. And I

518
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Speaker 1: think it's a case where now they're gonna make you

519
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Speaker 1: and him, They're going to make the determination what's in

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Speaker 1: his best long term interests. It's the guy who I think,

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Speaker 1: you know would be ready to go to the NFL

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Speaker 1: after this year. And hamstrings are hamstrings? Are you know tricky?

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Speaker 1: How you know you aggravated and make it worse? You

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Speaker 1: never know? Yeah, I mean I since that Utah game,

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Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh yeah top ten lock next year,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean again, you see these

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Speaker 1: guys in practice, you talk to the coaches. It's just

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Speaker 1: weird to have somebody go from one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: bullgame performances ever for a receiver, what do you have?

530
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Speaker 1: Like three yards three touchdowns? It was insane, and then

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Speaker 1: he's like barely done anything this year because he's hurt

532
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Speaker 1: in the NFL's looming. I don't know what. What is

533
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Speaker 1: it bad for me to be a little conspiracy theorist

534
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Speaker 1: on that. No, I think that when you have a

535
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Speaker 1: guy like this and we've seen it, you know, you

536
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Speaker 1: go back a couple of years, you had Immigrant it

537
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Speaker 1: was in the middle of the pandemic, but you had

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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase, who had a remarkable sophomore year, second year

539
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Speaker 1: at l s U, and he didn't play in the pandemic,

540
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Speaker 1: and then people are like, well, what's gonna happen? Now?

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Speaker 1: He ended up going what in the top five and

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Speaker 1: he's been Um. I don't think Jamar Chased to me

543
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Speaker 1: had a better, even better year than what Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: and Jigba had. But if you told me Jackson Smith

545
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Speaker 1: and Jigba falls out of the top twenty, I think

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Speaker 1: whoever gets him past there is going to have a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge um find and I think that would be a

548
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Speaker 1: that would be a gift because I think he's he's

549
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Speaker 1: going to be really good in the NFL. It's weird

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Speaker 1: to ohostate quarterbacks not matriculated to the NFL. Well, but

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Speaker 1: the receivers, I mean, like you said, mcclara and Wilson

552
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Speaker 1: Olave like they've all been pretty damn good. Michael Thomas

553
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Speaker 1: for a moment that let's go Bryce Young and Will

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Speaker 1: Anderson come to you and say, Bruce, you know you're

559
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Speaker 1: really connecting college football, connecting the NFL. You know we're

560
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Speaker 1: with the Tide. We've had two losses already. You know what,

561
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Speaker 1: we're not getting to the playoffs. Well, maybe there's chaos

562
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Speaker 1: and maybe get there. Bruce, what do you think should

563
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Speaker 1: we should we keep playing? Should we play the Iron Bowl?

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Speaker 1: I mean Auburn stinks, they fired their coach. Should we

565
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Speaker 1: play against Old Miss? Like we're gonna be first round picks?

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Speaker 1: Probably top ten. Bruce Bryce Song, I might go first,

567
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Speaker 1: What do you, Bruce Feldman say when you hear something

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Speaker 1: like that. I would, honestly, I would understand that if

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Speaker 1: they didn't, will you see, you know, bad happen, whether

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Speaker 1: it would be one that a career you know ending,

571
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Speaker 1: though maybe not as much, but like there's roosk and

572
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Speaker 1: anything in football, you know, if they're not to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: I would understand if they made that decision. I would

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Speaker 1: be surprised if they made that decision because it doesn't

575
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Speaker 1: seem like what either guy is like or is wired

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Speaker 1: that way necessarily. But again, you know, these are business decisions,

577
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Speaker 1: and you know, when't, i'd be surprised. But I guess

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Speaker 1: maybe I be shot. Matt Correll. I don't really want

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Speaker 1: to bring him up because I don't know the specifics

580
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: of his injury. But he got hurt in the bowl game,

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Speaker 1: and then he goes do he gets drafted by the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: then he goes to camp gets hurt again. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's the same injury, but this is a

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Speaker 1: guy who didn't me. I don't know if he had

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Speaker 1: a first round grade what you're hearing, but I thought

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Speaker 1: he was a good quarterback in college. I think he's

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Speaker 1: got a shot in the pros. I mean, Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: is small, Bruce, he's what eleven maybe yeah, Look, I

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young to me has less. There's some a little

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Speaker 1: bit of concerns about off field stuff with Matt Correll

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Speaker 1: maybe maturity wise, and and Matt Crowd had some problems

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Speaker 1: throwing interceptions the year before. Like, Bryce Young is a

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00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: no doubt better quarterback and better player, um and I

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Speaker 1: think he will check all the boxes character wise, leadership wise.

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Speaker 1: The durability is going to be concerned because he is small.

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Speaker 1: He is smaller than you know, than you know. People

597
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Speaker 1: can compare him style wise a little bit to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is a thick dude. He's like a short

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes body type. Whereas you know, I'm guessing Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's probably thirty pounds, you know, thicker and heavier than

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young. So you know, as Bryce Young it's going

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Speaker 1: to be as big as Drew Brees, probably not even that.

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Speaker 1: But he's a he's such a talented player, he's so

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Speaker 1: sees the field incredibly well. Like going into this season,

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Speaker 1: if you had asked me, who would I think would

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Speaker 1: be the first quarterback to go him or c J.

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Speaker 1: I would have said c J because c J is

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Speaker 1: six three ish almost sixth three, and he's every bit

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Speaker 1: of and he looks like an NFL quarterback physically. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bryce runs better. I think both guys are really smart.

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Speaker 1: Both guys are extremely accurate. I don't think either one.

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Speaker 1: You know, CJ has a has a good arm. It

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Speaker 1: is not you know, to me, it's in the Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow range. It's certainly not in the Pat Mahomes Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: certainly not justin Herbert you know, it's a good arm.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's I it's you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's if it's quite as strong as as Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrows even but he's he's really good. And I think

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Speaker 1: the people I talked to inside Ohio State love is intelligence.

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Speaker 1: And he's still a young kid. I think both of

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Speaker 1: those guys um definitely deserving it being top fifteen picks.

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Speaker 1: The you see more wow stuff from from Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: to me, And I don't think Bryce Burce Young has

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Speaker 1: way less talent around him right now than what c

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Speaker 1: J has. And he's also honestly going up against probably

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Speaker 1: a little more talent on defense. All right. Bruce Felman

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Speaker 1: college football at Fox Sports at the Athletic obviously follow it.

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Speaker 1: He's great and a nice guy as well. Bruce, thanks

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Speaker 1: a lot for taking the time. I appreciate it. Thanks Jason,