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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom? And Dan and Tie, Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: the first round of the college Football Playoff is now

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Speaker 1: officially in the books. We have our four winners. They

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Speaker 1: are Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas, and just a few

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Speaker 1: moments ago, the Ohio State Buckey's winning and resounding fashion

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Speaker 1: over the Tennessee Volunteers. Hello over bowler hood. I am Tye.

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Speaker 1: He is Dan. We are the Solid Verbal And on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, we are reacting to the first round of

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Speaker 1: the College football Playoff. Dan Rubinstein, the expanded version of

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. A lot of takes out there

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Speaker 1: this weekend. I gotta be honest with you. Anybody with

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Speaker 1: a big take quick going on all weekend long. It's

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Speaker 1: been fun to be part of the online discourse. We

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Speaker 1: had two live streams. We had one on Friday night

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Speaker 1: for Notre Dame Indiana. We just got done doing a

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Speaker 1: second voices a little bit raspy to State against Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So thought we'd take some time here on today's episode

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Speaker 1: to just go through each of the games individually, unpacked thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that we haven't had a chance to unpack. You

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Speaker 1: and I have talked a lot over the last forty

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Speaker 2: The thoughts and takes and opinions and observations. I'm drained, ty,

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Speaker 2: I'm in that like post thought clarity situation right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little worried our thoughts are just going

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Speaker 1: to like meld together and become one and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose track of who was who's Yeah, suffice to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to discuss here with just four games.

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Speaker 1: it's great. Why don't we start big picture? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: not so much specific to any of these games, but

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Speaker 1: just I guess thinking more broadly about what we saw

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Speaker 1: bigger picture, what stands out to you based on what

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Speaker 2: I mean, we had a Jim Cantory weekend of college football.

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Speaker 2: The big winner is experts on low pressure systemsople who

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Speaker 1: Definitely, the games could have been better. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: Which game do you want to start with? Though? When

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Speaker 1: Let's go there, first game of the twelve team era.

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Speaker 2: so that game probably felt like it was seven and

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Speaker 2: And Notre Dame is one of those teams and we

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Speaker 2: if their pickleball is successful, and it absolutely was. Obviously

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Speaker 2: but it was Notre Dame finding themselves in third and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seven of thirteen on third downs for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: And to be fair, a team that has not had

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame next plays Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because it's Tuesday Wednesday, right the fall in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surprised that you didn't want to go to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely felt like, well, there's your

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Speaker 2: Tennessee would have loved to have second and two's tonight.

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Speaker 2: So it changed the calculus of what Tennessee was or

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Speaker 1: against Ohio Sate again, it was twenty one nothing end

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Speaker 1: of the first quarter. They simply had no choice but

435
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Speaker 1: to build the entire plane out of him. So to

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Speaker 1: his credit, I think he did about as well as

437
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Speaker 1: he could have. I'm sure he would like to do better,

438
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Speaker 1: but didn't make the big mistake. He did not kill

439
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Speaker 1: this Tennessee team.

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Speaker 2: He was more successful throwing his body downfield he was

441
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Speaker 2: in the ball. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm curious to hear what

443
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Speaker 1: the verboler hood has to say about this Tennessee thing

444
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Speaker 1: because it's been a hot topic with how many teams

445
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Speaker 1: got in from the SEC. I don't want to relitigate

446
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Speaker 1: that now. I do want to talk through these games.

447
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Speaker 1: We've got two more to go after this one. Probably

448
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Speaker 1: too many got in, right, I'm not going to go there. Okay,

449
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Speaker 1: not in this episode. We'll come to it at some

450
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Speaker 1: other point in time. Well, no, I mean, but I'm

451
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Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just saying this is where that conversation

452
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Speaker 1: is going to go next. Yeah. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: an unfair question to ask in light of what we

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Speaker 1: saw tonight against Ohio State. I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is not intended to be snarky. It

456
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Speaker 2: might come off as that way, and I sometimes have

457
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Speaker 2: that effect on my language. Tennessee was not prepared for

458
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Speaker 2: the speed and athleticism of the Big Ten's third place team. Right,

459
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Speaker 2: that's and everybody in the country, everybody in the universe

460
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Speaker 2: wanted Jeremiah Smith. He is not a big ten player,

461
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Speaker 2: He is just a player player. But Tennessee had no

462
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Speaker 2: answer that that secondary was running for their lives, hoping

463
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Speaker 2: that a ball would bounce off of the back of

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Speaker 2: their helmet as they ran after Jeremiah Smith and Ohio

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Speaker 2: State receivers. There was no time to turn around and

466
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Speaker 2: make a play on the ball because they got torched

467
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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 1: If this game were closer, if the Tennessee pass rush

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Speaker 1: had more of an effect on Will Howard, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't know if we've mentioned his name

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Speaker 1: at all. Will Howard may have played the best game

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Speaker 1: I've seen him play in three years.

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Speaker 2: Oh, incredible performance in Will Howard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it wasn't just making the right decisions.

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Speaker 1: It was ball placement, it was confidence, it was staying

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Speaker 1: in rhythm. Some of the passes he threw to Jeremiah Smith,

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Speaker 1: the second touchdown in particular, I think it was a

478
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Speaker 1: twenty two yarder. Talk about throwing that one in the bucket, man,

479
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Speaker 1: I mean, just perfect, absolutely perfect. He was awesome in

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Speaker 1: this game. Only missed five passes. Jeremiah Smith. I think

481
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Speaker 1: the star out wide, but also a really good game

482
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Speaker 1: for a mecca at Buka Trey Henderson. They got him

483
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Speaker 1: involved both in the running game and in the passing game.

484
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Speaker 1: We saw quin Shawn Judkins with two touchdowns as well.

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Speaker 1: It was just a total offensive effort from Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: If you are an Ohio State fan, you are thrilled.

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Speaker 1: You are wondering where was this against Michigan, You are

488
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Speaker 1: wondering what's going to happen now? Round two against Oregon.

489
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Speaker 1: By the way, they're a one point favorite.

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Speaker 2: Going to the West Coast. Take on the Ducks.

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Speaker 1: Going to the West Coast. More of a traditional I

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Speaker 1: guess Rose Bowl matchup right, a former Pack ten against

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Speaker 1: a traditional Big ten power. It's going to be five

494
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Speaker 1: pm traditional start time for the Rose Bowl New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Oregon. The Buckeyes at present look about a

496
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Speaker 1: one point favorite. I would be surprised if that does

497
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Speaker 1: not grow. I had that one projected at Ohio State

498
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Speaker 1: minus three. I think that number is going to go

499
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Speaker 1: up a little bit, but been wrong many times before.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we have what PAC twelve, Big twelve, ASU Texas. Yeah, yeah,

501
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: we got all sorts of classic. You got Georgia, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Is that Jake from Is that like the beginning of

503
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Speaker 2: the Jake From era which Jake Eason was heard Jacob Eason. Yeah,

504
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Speaker 2: and that was in South Bend. I want to say, ye,

505
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Speaker 2: so yeah, some yeah, Boise Penn State. I don't know

506
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Speaker 2: if I have any connective tissue in the moment with that.

507
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Speaker 2: I'll think about it, But yeah, where do.

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Speaker 1: You want to go? Very quickly? Like twenty seconds or less? Sure,

509
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: as an Oregon fan knowing that you had the winner

510
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Speaker 1: of this game, now having seen what you saw from

511
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Speaker 1: Ohio State put up forty two points on what we

512
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Speaker 1: think is a very good Tennessee defense. Still, even in

513
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Speaker 1: light of this, are you more worried? Are you? Like?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts now in reaction to what you

515
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Speaker 1: saw tonight?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'd like to pat myself on the

517
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Speaker 2: back for when asked before who would you rather have

518
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Speaker 2: Ohio State or Tennessee?

519
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Speaker 1: And I laughed and said Tennessee, because of course.

520
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Speaker 2: Why would you want Ohio State and even risk getting

521
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Speaker 2: the good version of Ohio State? Yeah? What's your question?

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Speaker 2: What are my initial thoughts about?

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Speaker 1: How are you reacting? You somebody who notably a couple

524
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago said, Oh, I think actually, actually Oregon

525
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Speaker 1: may have the easiest path in now you've got Ohio State. No,

526
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Speaker 1: I care myself, be careful what you wish for sure?

527
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Speaker 2: I well, I said that their path isn't as immediate

528
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Speaker 2: killer as people thought, saying that, oh, they have the

529
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Speaker 2: worst matchup in either round two or whatever, because they

530
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Speaker 2: could potentially get Ohio State or Tennessee. I guess was

531
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Speaker 2: part of that conversation. As the eight nine game, my

532
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Speaker 2: thinking was that if Oregon's goal is to win a

533
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Speaker 2: national championship, it almost behooves them to get the toughest

534
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Speaker 2: team as early as possible, when they are the most

535
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Speaker 2: rested and have a rest advantage, because you're going to

536
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Speaker 2: have to go through three teams. And so in this situation,

537
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: you'd get a Texas team with Quinn youers still hobbling

538
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Speaker 2: and not separating themselves all the time from decent teams,

539
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Speaker 2: and then Notre Dame that can't really throw downfield but

540
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Speaker 2: still obviously excellent, a Penn State team that you just

541
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Speaker 2: know you can beat, you of the confidence that you

542
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Speaker 2: can beat them, and perhaps a Georgia team that isn't

543
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Speaker 2: starting their starting quarterback. And so if you are going

544
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Speaker 2: to say, okay, the best of the field is the

545
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Speaker 2: best of Ohio State. The time to get them is

546
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Speaker 2: in the Rose Bowl on the West coast with.

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Speaker 1: The rest advantage. Okay, that's all. That was my point.

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Speaker 2: That it was not an automatic like killer thing doesn't

549
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Speaker 2: mean they're gonna win the game. It just means timing wise.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate as an Oregon human sing Ohio State here. Okay,

551
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Speaker 2: that's all. But yeah, my immediate reaction this game is

552
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: it should be a banger. I hope Oregon has a

553
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Speaker 2: whole bunch of answers to confuse Will Howard and limit

554
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith. You don't stop Jeremiah Smith, but limit Jeremiah Smith.

555
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Speaker 2: And it's a great game.

556
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Speaker 1: It was so good. He's so so good.

557
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Speaker 2: We should have more competitive games in ten days or whatever.

558
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Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope so. I hope so too.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Texas Clemson game, Dan. This was

560
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Speaker 1: the four pm start yes on Saturday. Texas wins by

561
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Speaker 1: a thirty eight to twenty four score. This game was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Clemson tried to mount to comeback. They were down. They

563
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Speaker 1: tried to mount to comeback. They tried to do it

564
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Speaker 1: on the arm of kid Klubnick, who I thought was

565
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Speaker 1: sensational in this game. If I'm going to talk about

566
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Speaker 1: Will Howard looking the best I've seen of him in

567
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Speaker 1: three years, this may have been the best I've seen

568
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Speaker 1: Cad clubnicklook in a long time. I can't really put

569
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Speaker 1: a number on it. I thought he was really good.

570
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was playing to try and spite Texas,

571
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Speaker 1: who if you listen to the commentary, you'll know grew

572
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Speaker 1: up ten minutes away from the stadium. They could not

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Speaker 1: resist themselves. They pointed that fact out about a million times.

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Speaker 2: Yea cap Clubnick's new last name is a hyphen. It's

575
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Speaker 2: cave club Nick Dash grew up in the shadow.

576
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable DKR unbelievable. So suffice to say, for me, the

577
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Speaker 1: club level was open, tickets were available, they were getting

578
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Speaker 1: pricier in the second half. He was able to bring

579
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Speaker 1: Clemson to some extent back in this football game. But

580
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Speaker 1: ultimately the reason that Texas was able to maintain some

581
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Speaker 1: cushion ultimately get the two score win, cover the point spread,

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Speaker 1: if you're into those things, is because they ran for

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety two yards and four touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: This is something not to pat myself too much on

585
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Speaker 1: the back, but this was something that I called out

586
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Speaker 1: specifically in our preview because you can run on Clemson.

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Speaker 1: We saw that in games previously against like Louisville, some

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Speaker 1: big runs that were ripped off against Clemson.

589
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Speaker 2: Brishard Smith ran pretty well in the a SEC championship game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were giving up big plays on the ground.

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Speaker 1: It's been a recurring trend. Their yards after contact number

592
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Speaker 1: was horrible, like one hundred and nineteenth or twentieth in

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Speaker 1: the nation. And on top of it, they're just per

594
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Speaker 1: the people that keep track of tackling stats, not a

595
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Speaker 1: great tackling team. And so my theory, and it has

596
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Speaker 1: been one of the things all season one that has

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Speaker 1: I think held true and actually has been quite predictive.

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Speaker 1: If you're going up against a team that can run,

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Speaker 1: if you're not a team that particularly defends the run well,

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Speaker 1: and if on top of it, you're tackling stats aren't good,

601
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: those things compound, it's really tough to beat that team.

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Speaker 1: And that is what happened here. Texas had a tour

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Speaker 1: de force on the ground. They were awesome on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Jayden Blue, I mean Jade Blue had a really good game,

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Speaker 1: kudos to him. It was not about quinn Ewers. It

606
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Speaker 1: was not about anything other in my eyes than the

607
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Texas ground game asserting its dominance, controlling the clock, giving

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Speaker 1: Texas to padding that it needed. I just felt like

609
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Speaker 1: the text the Clemson defense could not get off the

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Speaker 1: field because of that Texas ground assault.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I look that was the difference. Clemson couldn't

612
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Speaker 2: stay on the field for stretches in this game now

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Speaker 2: on third down and for as many plays as Caide

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Speaker 2: club Nick it was him and TJ. Moore had the

615
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Speaker 2: nice connection. It just wasn't enough that Texas had more.

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Speaker 1: Ways to win this game. And even though quinn.

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: Ewrs wasn't going downfield a ton to his receivers made

618
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Speaker 2: enough plays downfield. I think Gunnerhelm ended up leading Texas

619
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Speaker 2: in receiving and right, it's the ground. It was coming

620
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Speaker 2: into this game talking about Texas struggling in the red

621
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Speaker 2: zone turning sevens into threes. Kept those sevens as seven

622
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: against Clemson today, and when it did get close, Texas

623
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Speaker 2: found that gear once again, especially on defense, and another

624
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Speaker 2: one of those teams that the speed of this Texas

625
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: defense is something to marvel at Even though Clemson does

626
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Speaker 2: not look like, you know, top six, eight ten team

627
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Speaker 2: in the country, still guys on this team and they

628
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: were struggling at times to find grass. And that's a

629
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Speaker 2: credit to the job this Texas defense did against Clemson.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's ground, it's red zone, it's making timely plays,

631
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Speaker 2: it's not blinking when it got a little bit closer.

632
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Speaker 2: Because it looked at the start that Texas was going

633
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Speaker 2: to run away with this. It did and Clemson stood

634
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Speaker 2: in there nicely and just you know, had the pick

635
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Speaker 2: six called back, there were a couple of opportunities that

636
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Speaker 2: they couldn't capitalize on and that was sort of that.

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Speaker 1: One other thing that I jotted down was in and

638
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Speaker 1: we didn't talk much about this in the preview, but

639
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Speaker 1: it's one of the numbers that jumps off the page

640
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Speaker 1: when you look at Texas. Texas has been fairly heavily

641
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Speaker 1: penalized this season, and in this game. I was curious

642
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: to see a big moment against a team like a Clemson.

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00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: Clemson's been there before under Dabos Sweeney. I just want

644
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: to watch penalty yardage. Two penalties ten yards for Texas.

645
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Highly disciplined in this game, they stuck to their game plan,

646
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Speaker 1: finished with close to five hundred total yards a lot

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Speaker 1: on the ground. As I said, two hundred and ninety two.

648
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: That to me was the difference. So now they've got

649
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Yes, also a thirteen and a half point

650
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: favorite going into that Peach Bowl game against the Sun Devils.

651
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: So Texas starting things out if you just go by

652
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: the point spread as the team thus far with the

653
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: easiest pathway. In the Clemson game, they covered thirteen and

654
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: a half. Wasn't always easy, but they end up covering

655
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: in the end, winning by two scores. Now they've got

656
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: this game against Arizona State. I don't know how to

657
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: handicap that game. I feel like Texas is the better team.

658
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Arizona State maybe has more momentum given

659
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: the way they close out their season. I'm curious to

660
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: dig in here and try to put myself in the

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: mind of Kenny Dillingham, Like, is what is the way

662
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: to attack this Texas team with the personnel on hand,

663
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: and what can they do defensively? If Texas is going

664
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: to go out there and try and run the ball

665
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: on them to keep themselves in the football game, Like

666
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: I have visions of this going a similar direction that

667
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: we saw today against Clemson.

668
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm building a victory sandwich for Arizona State

669
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: over Texas, it's roasted cam scataboo, smoked cam scataboo, rocks

670
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: cam scataboo, dice cam scataboo, a little bit of lettuce, cheese,

671
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: and dressing on some toasted cams scataboo.

672
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

673
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not to the degree of Ashton

674
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: genty because Sam Levitt has been quite good, but now

675
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: down his best receiver. It'll be fascinating. But y'all understand

676
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: why the line is what it is. It is because

677
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: the roster that Texas has, not saying Arizona State can't

678
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: build its roster to a dangerous point. But we're still

679
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: very young in the Kenny Dillingham era, and the season

680
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: is already an overwhelming success as a team getting a

681
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: playoff by coming in after being picked sixteenth in the conference. Yeah,

682
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: in the preseason. But yeah, it's a nice draw right

683
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: here for Texas.

684
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: I thought this was a really discipline effort from Texas.

685
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I was encouraged by what I saw. And look, if

686
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: you're a Texas fan, you're encouraged by the matchup against ASU.

687
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: I think if you're an ASU fan, you're looking at

688
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: this and you're saying, all right, well, we were playing

689
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: with house money at this point. Right. You win the conference,

690
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: you get in a first round by that's good, you

691
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: get rested. You knew you're going to have to play

692
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: teams that are perceived to be much much better than you.

693
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: My hunches. They've been game planning for Texas. They probably

694
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: assume that that was going to be their opponent, not

695
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: taking too much for granted, but no, let's just be

696
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: real about this.

697
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: They didn't They didn't know what the offensive line health

698
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: was going to be. They didn't know what the Isaac

699
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 2: Bond health is going to be. There are variables at

700
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: play here that Texas is going to need to quickly

701
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: account for.

702
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see how they use Sam Levitt

703
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: in that game. He has shown that he can be

704
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: highly mobile, he can run the football. They're going to

705
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: need to use every last trick play that they have

706
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: to beat this Texas defense because it is really freaking good.

707
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: So thirty eight to twenty four is your final. Again,

708
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: they're playing in the Peach Bowl. That game is also

709
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. I believe that's the earlier time slot.

710
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: They are a thirteen and a half point favorite again

711
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: going into that one against Arizona State. Yes, that brings

712
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: us to the final game. This was the early one

713
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday up in State College. I had a bunch

714
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: of friends up at this game. They were all played

715
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: on HOTH. Yeah. They were all texting me how friggin

716
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: cold it was in State College and I can attest

717
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: to it. We got snow out of nowhere here. I'm

718
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: a little bit farther east of State College, but it's

719
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: been real friggin cold wins, wind chill, random snow. We

720
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: have three inches of snow that just happened upon us here.

721
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: Hath is a pretty good way to describe what Beaver

722
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: Stadium was.

723
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: That's the right reference, right, the Star Wars snowy frozen planet.

724
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, thirty eight to ten was your final score here.

725
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Penn State wins in pretty dominating fashion. Dan, Yeah, My

726
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: initial thought in this game was that the combination of factors,

727
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: be it weather, the size of the moment, the stakes,

728
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: certainly the opponent, Penn State's defensive front, all of that

729
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: felt too much for Kevin Jennings. Sure, it felt too

730
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: much for him. We spent a pretty good chunk of

731
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: our preview talking about how Penn State was going to

732
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: contend with Kevin Jennings, and in the end they kind

733
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: of did what we discussed, which was they got pressure

734
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: on him without blitzing. They forced the like they forced

735
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: the issue. They got pressure on him without blitzing. They

736
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: forced him to make a mistake. He had three picks

737
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: in this game. He had two picks sixes in this game.

738
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Relatively early. There was a conversation with about ten minutes

739
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: left in the second quarter, like, are they going to

740
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: put Preston Stone in Preston Stone in the portal? But

741
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm still with the team. I was with the team.

742
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: I believe going Northwestern or so. I don't know where

743
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: he's going. Yeah, but still with the team. Was still

744
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: there was wondering that early on in the game is

745
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: the time to move on? Put somebody else in this game.

746
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: My hunch is that they suspected the only way they

747
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: could climb back into this thing is by using the

748
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: playmaking ability of Kevin Jennings. They were damned if they did,

749
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and damn if they didn't. With respect to keeping him

750
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: in that football game. But it was again an instance

751
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: of the Penn State defense controlling the game, controlling the

752
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: point of attack, finding ways to disrupt Kevin Jennings. I

753
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it was the weather. I don't know

754
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: if it was the crowd. I don't know what it was,

755
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: but he was not comfortable throwing the football. He certainly

756
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: was not accurate throwing the football. SMU just could not

757
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: mount any kind of significant charge in this one. It

758
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: was over at halftime.

759
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: It was and it was similar to Notre Dame given

760
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: the conditions, and I would argue that they probably ended

761
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: up running the ball a little bit better because Drew

762
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Aller wasn't doing much. Tyler Warren wasn't doing much. Obviously,

763
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: he got his touches, and when he got it, he

764
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 2: was typically pretty strong. I mean, you spot a team

765
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: two pick six is in the first quarter, quarter and

766
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: a half, whenever it happened, that's tough. That's just mentally

767
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: emotionally tough, especially in that environment, especially given the weather.

768
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: Given everything, it just seemed Kevin Jennings knew as he

769
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: was receiving the snap that his offensive line was not

770
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: going to be holding up against what Penn State was

771
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: sending at him, which was four dudes, Yeah, sometimes five,

772
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: and receivers weren't getting open. Penn State had the frozen

773
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: dormant grass on lock.

774
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: You love that, that was your favorite thing of this Saturday.

775
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: I only recently learned the term dormant grass. I know

776
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: grass doesn't die in the winter, but I like the

777
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: word dormant.

778
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Quin Kessenik was all about that turf grass management.

779
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great SMU goodyear. Not as good as Penn

780
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: State players aren't as good as Penn States players, although

781
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: I really I mean, I'll echo what I said earlier

782
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: when we recap this game. I like SMU up front,

783
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: only so much they can do on defense when the

784
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: offense is going three and out, three and out, three

785
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: and out. Kevin Jennings sort of running for his life

786
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: and hoping somebody pops open as he's heading to the sideline.

787
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: But there's players up front for SMU. I like those guys.

788
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: They were handling Penn State's offensive line decently well, all

789
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: things considered, were at least in the first half. Yeah,

790
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: Drew Aller did not get into any sort of rhythm

791
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: in this game, and maybe it's you know, throwing into

792
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: the wind a frozen ball. You count for everything here,

793
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was not finding success either, in the

794
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: same way Kevin Jennings was not.

795
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: No. I mean, I think if it weren't for the

796
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: fact that Kevin Jennings had so much trouble, we'd be

797
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: talking more about the trouble that Drew Aller had, Yeah,

798
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: in this game, But I don't know how much of

799
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: that we put on Aller. I mean, I feel like

800
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm sort of the excuse maker for all things Drew Aller,

801
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: so I need to tread carefully here. But I do wonder,

802
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: just because both quarterbacks had so much trouble, if it

803
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: was a weather thing, if the weather just really was

804
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: affecting what they were, it had to have. Yeah, I mean,

805
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: it was brutal, brutal up here. I don't know if

806
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: it was more brutal than it was at Ohio State

807
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: or Notre Dame, but it was the wind seem bad.

808
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm close enough to stay college to tell you that

809
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: it was. The Weather's been brutal, and I canty here.

810
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine that did not play some factor. That

811
00:41:54,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: being said, we're essentially in playoff and tournament mode now.

812
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Yes, the eight team playoff begins, the play and round

813
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: is done.

814
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, and if you've ever watched the NFL Playoffs,

815
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, any tournament setting baseball, it doesn't matter

816
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: once you get into a tournament setting to some degree,

817
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: the normal benchmarks we have for what is good and

818
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: what is bad from a stat standpoint, that goes out

819
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: the window. You know, we could throw that stuff right

820
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: out the window, because it's about winning, it's about surviving,

821
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: it's about advancing.

822
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: And it's also been about like been there before, been there,

823
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: right that a team has been in the conference finals.

824
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: The team has been in that's an NBA reference. I

825
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: know that the conference championship is not a call the

826
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: finals that Texas has played in. Brian Denny, Texas has

827
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: played in a conference championship. Texas played in the playoff.

828
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Oregon same obviously, Georgia, same Notre Dame. Same Like there

829
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: is that there's a certain mentality of like, okay, I

830
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: understand the rhythm of this environment. And it was the

831
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: first time for Indiana, it was the first time for SMU,

832
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: it was the first time for Tennessee on this level.

833
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: So they'll get better, they'll get used to it, but

834
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: it's tough to be thrown into it.

835
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: It's real tough. I'm not taking stats entirely at face

836
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: value in this Penn State game, especially the team stats,

837
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: like if you didn't watch it, if you go back

838
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: and look like those numbers are all thrown off by

839
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: the fact that they had two picks sixes and they

840
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: were able to win a lot of field position because

841
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: of some of those SMU mistakes. The punting was a

842
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: disaster in this game as well. It was just the

843
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: weather definitely played a factor the mistakes obviously. I think

844
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Yeah, the punting was bad. I mean, just

845
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: everything about this was not a banner showing. Certainly they

846
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: will feel much much better playing in a dome on

847
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve against Boise State, if only because the

848
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: Elements won't play nearly the same effect that they did

849
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: in this game that we saw against SMU. Your final

850
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: was thirty eight to ten on the SMU side. I

851
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a conversation that probably pops

852
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: up this week about whether they belonged in this game

853
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: or not. They were having that conversation online about midway

854
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: through the first quarter. Saw that I'm still content with

855
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: SMU being there. I think SMU had a great season. Yeah,

856
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: SMU definitely under rht Lashly. As I said in my preview,

857
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: it's clear that they've got a really creative vision for

858
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: how to play offense. They're not doing the same thing

859
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: over and over again. I like the way that he

860
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: is building this team. I think there is incredible optimism

861
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: about where they could go next the ACC. The ACC

862
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: has many things, but the ACC definitely gives SMU a

863
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: shot to be competitive for a playoff spot most years.

864
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: So I think it's all gravy for SMU. Now they

865
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: have this one under their belt. We'll see if they

866
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: do better the next time. But thirty eight to ten,

867
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: it was a tough watch for most of the way through. Yes,

868
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: yes it was. Penn State is a ten point favorite

869
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: now going into this Fiesta Bowl on New Year's Eve

870
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: against Boise State. And this is a game that you

871
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: and I talked a little bit about when we were

872
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: doing our live stream. I know Ashton Gent is out there.

873
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I know Ashton gent is probably going to get his

874
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: stat line against Penn State or really against anybody, right.

875
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: I like the matchup for Penn State. It feels to

876
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: me like the Boise offense is telegraphed. It feels to

877
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: me like you can move the ball somewhat easily on

878
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: this Boise defense if you're Penn State. Okay, I get

879
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: that Boise's been competitive. With the likes of your Oregon Ducks,

880
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: I have liked Boise State. I rooted for Boise State

881
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: to get into this I am supportive of them getting

882
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: that first round by I don't want to talk down

883
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: what Boise State has done this season. They've had a

884
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: hell of a year. I like the matchup for Penn State.

885
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: I think the point spread is right. I called it

886
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: out the second I looked at my spreadsheet. I had

887
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: it at ten. Yep, it is ten. I think that's

888
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: the right number. I think Penn State's got a clear

889
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: edge in this game. Yeah.

890
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: The problem here for Boise State, who is a very

891
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: very good team, is twenty seven carries for one fifty

892
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: three won't get it done against Penn State. That unless

893
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: that that twenty seven for one fifty three includes four,

894
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 2: you know, forty yard touchdown runs or whatever my math

895
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: should be, should work out too. It's just the passing

896
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: game is efficient but not crazy dangerous, and the defense

897
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: seems extremely average, and the roster, while good, while impressive,

898
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: is not Penn State's roster and depth and upper level

899
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: talent at every position it matters on New Year's Eve,

900
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: it just does.

901
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Boise has given up a bunch of big plays, both

902
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: on the ground and through the air as a defense.

903
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: We will talk about that when we do our preview

904
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: again later on this week. I don't want to get

905
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: too deep in the weeds with Boisey butt, suffice to

906
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: sayble unpack as much of that as we can when

907
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: we put the quarterfinal preview together again. That's going to

908
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: to the public feed on Friday, the rare Friday drop

909
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: for us, which we never do. Yeah, it'll be out

910
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: there on the public feed this coming Friday. It'll be

911
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: out there a little bit sooner, probably Thursday afternoon ish

912
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: for the folks that are listening out at verbowlers dot

913
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: com on our Patreon.

914
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: Do you think teams that play in the southern portion

915
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 2: of the United States should be spotted twenty five to

916
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: thirty points if they have to travel north? Like that

917
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: just seems fair, Like let's let's be cool, like guys,

918
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: they're not used to it.

919
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I just.

920
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look out for everybody here, figure out

921
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: what the most reasonable solution would be. I'm trying to

922
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: be solution oriented, Tie, and it seems like they need

923
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: they just need that little boost.

924
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: It's like in a cross country skiing race where they

925
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: give people a little bit of a head start. I

926
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: think that's fair.

927
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they seemed really sad that it was so cold,

928
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: and I don't know that bums me out.

929
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh boy, we'll get comments for that one. Can't wait,

930
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: can't wait for that. It's really hard, Tie, it is,

931
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Come on, it was hard. It was tough for tennis.

932
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee got drilled. Oh my god, I call it.

933
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: Way warmer on the Ohio State sideline. I don't know

934
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: they were able to cope.

935
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: They have tips. Probably we had that bit. I think

936
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: Fowler was talking about how they brought in the extra

937
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: warm electric heaters. They had sewn fleece into the pockets

938
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: of Nico's uniform.

939
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: But it was like twenty six degrees in Knoxville tonight.

940
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: It was cold.

941
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: The difference was not crazy. It was all overstated. And

942
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: once again, to just bookend this, I love seeing people's

943
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: cold weather choices. Oh you're not going Beanie, you're just

944
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: going the ear covers, Okay, you're going the full like

945
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: Nick Saban went with like the Fedora or whatever that

946
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: the felt type warming hat is great. I just you know,

947
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: love seeing the coats, love seeing the jackets, love seeing

948
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: the choices.

949
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: It's great. I'll tell you what. Nick Saban didn't love

950
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: seeing Shane Gillis. He didn't seem to love Shane Gillis

951
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: all that much. Shane Gillis really good. It was really good.

952
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I thought he knocked it out of the park. He

953
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: was great.

954
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's like a diet in the wole Notre

955
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: Damer right, yeah, and said something like, you know, you've

956
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: got a lot of parody now that it's not just

957
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: the SEC teams who can pay players. And Nick Saban

958
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: wasn't there for that, but it was repeated to him,

959
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: either Herbstreet or McAfee, and he was like, well, we always.

960
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Prided ourselves doing things the right way at Alabama. Gils

961
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: was just like, I thought, we're having fun. I thought

962
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: it was a fun show. Guys. It's great, good TV,

963
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: good stuff.

964
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: Second appearance this year, right, miguelis on Game Day, great.

965
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Good stuff, good stuff. All right, look our voices are shot. Yeah,

966
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: you're off to Parts unknown for a few days. We're

967
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: going to take some downtime here over the next couple

968
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: days or so, get our head straight, get in the

969
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: right frame of mind for this quarterfinal preview that I've

970
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: teased a couple times over now is going to drop

971
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: to our feed again Friday the twenty seventh. We will

972
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: talk about these four games. We will talk about other

973
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Bowl action that has transpired. Just in passing. We would

974
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: encourage you all to go on out to play bowlbingo

975
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: dot com. It is free. You don't do anything to

976
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: get in this game. We're not gonna spam you. I

977
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: promise scouts on her, not even a scout. I might

978
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: even take you out to dinner. I'm not taking anybody

979
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: out to dinner.

980
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: Grab some spicy seschewan cooking.

981
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no. Not get crazy here if

982
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: you win.

983
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not saying in a weird way.

984
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not saying it in a weird way. Either,

985
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: get some hot pot with somebody in this game. Here's

986
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, go to play bowbingo dot com.

987
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988
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Speaker 1: on the link you sign up for free, then you

989
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Speaker 1: will be notified whenever we open up a new Bingo card.

990
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: We've got one going on now, there's going to be

991
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: another one that opens up on Monday afternoon. You're gonna

992
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: have a few days till the end of the week

993
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: to get your picks in. You can go back and

994
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: listen to our Bowl preview Part two where we talk

995
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: through some of the bets that are going to be

996
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: involved as part of that Bengo card. Okay, yes, very simple.

997
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: It's free to play. All are welcome to join the

998
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: more of the merrier. That's my diatribe on this. Okay,

999
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: we'll give out fabulous prizes. We could talk through more

1000
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: of what those prizes are here very very soon. Okay, great,

1001
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: I think that's all I need to do. In terms

1002
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: of housekeeping. Of course, hit follow, hit subscribe. If you

1003
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: made it this far, we would encourage you to follow

1004
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: along on social media so that you don't miss any announcements,

1005
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: i e. When we're going to do more live streams,

1006
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: because we've got a couple of those coming up. You

1007
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: and I have yet to figure that one out exactly,

1008
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: but I think leaning Oregon, Ohio State Rose.

1009
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Bull seems right to me. We won't be too tired

1010
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: because it's a five pm Eastern We'll still have the

1011
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: game after Yeah, I think that's right.

1012
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there. We've got four winners advancing.

1013
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: We will update our our brackets accordingly. We'll make sure

1014
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: we post that out there for all to see. We

1015
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: hope you all enjoyed this weekend as best you could.

1016
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: At a minimum, kept warm wherever it is you are

1017
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: in this country and in this universe. For that guy

1018
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildebrand,

1019
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: thank you as always for all your undying support for

1020
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: hanging with us all weekend long. We'll talk to you

1021
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: at the end of the week. Stay silent, peace,