1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. 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And that's why I do what I do. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: That's why I speak every day and I talk to 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: or His because I have daughters, I have sisters. I 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: would hate to have your first mammogram be the one 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: where you find out you have a breast cancer. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: That'd be awful, but it happens very often. 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghearspace dot com to access our 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 5: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: women like you. We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Bussard, a 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: college professor and psychologist. 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 6: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 6: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 6: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 6: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 6: where black women can just be Hey, lady, it's Terry 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 6: here from the Cultivating her Space podcast. I'm hosting a 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 6: free podcasting masterclass where I'm going to teach you how 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 6: to create your impactful podcast and how you can generate 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 6: multiple streams of income. You can visit podcast with Terry 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 6: dot com to register for free. I hope to see 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 6: you there, lady. Today, we have a very special guest. 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: Okay. 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: Her smile is contagious, her spirit is resilient, and her 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 6: story is inspiring to me. She is a real life superhero. 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 6: Shante Lowe is an American athlete who competes in the 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 6: high jump, and she's a four time Olympian. When Chante 49 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 6: first a tiny lump in her breast, her doctor wrote 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 6: it off, viewing her as too young and too fit 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 6: to have cancer. She was later diagnosed with triple negative 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: breast cancer in twenty nineteen. Chantey has an inspiring story 53 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: on training for the twenty twenty one Olympics, amid treatment, 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 6: and the COVID nineteen pandemic. Today, she is passionate about 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 6: educating others on the importance of getting screened and taking 56 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 6: control of your health. Chantey, welcome to cultivating her Space. 57 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for that wonderful introduction you did 58 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: have me over here smiling. 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: You are so welcome. 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 6: We are so inspired already, but we can't wait to 61 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: tell our listeners more about you. 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 7: Yes, and so we are going to start with our 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 7: quote of the day. So our quote of the day 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 7: is a song lyric from Destiny's Child I'm a survivor. 66 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 7: I'm gonna make it. I will survive, keep on surviving. Now, 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 7: I'm not a singer, so I won't. I saved us 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 7: all from singing the lyrics. But we, you know, as 69 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 7: we were preparing to meet with you, Chante, we were 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 7: just so inspired. Those lyrics is what, like just automatically 71 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 7: popped into my spirit when I the more I read 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 7: about you, And so we're just gonna jump right in. 73 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 7: All right, I'm ready, Yes, So Chante, tell us your 74 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 7: origin story. How did you get to where you are 75 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 7: right now in this moment. 76 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it started all the way back when I was 77 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: four years old and just being inspired. They always talk 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: about representation matters. I'm watching the Olympics and I see 79 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: flow Joe and she's looks like me. She's a black woman, 80 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: she's strong, she's gorgeous, and for anyone who doesn't know 81 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: who Well Joe is is who Beyonce wanted to be 82 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: for Halloween. So that'll tell you how bad she is 83 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: right there. And I'm watching this woman and I'm like, 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I want to be like her. 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: What's it going to take to be like her? 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: And that's the day I learned the definition of perseverance 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: and hard work. My mom said, look girl, it's going 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: to take perseverance and hard work, and she was right. 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: There was a lot of turmoil. 90 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: We faced homelessness, poverty, my mom battled domestic violence, and 91 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: so we had to go through all of that to 92 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: get to the point where I tried out for my 93 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: first Olympic team my sophomore year in college, got married 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: by my senior year, had a baby, tried out for 95 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: my second Olympic team, you know, And so it's just 96 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: a beautiful story where it started at the age of 97 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: four through representation and now you know, it's it's a 98 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: place I've been four times, and it's just it's great 99 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: to have had that so early. 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 6: That's amazing. What was the most, I guess the most 101 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 6: challenging part of that journey of you, because it sounds 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 6: like you've been through so much in your journey to 103 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 6: get to this point. 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: What was the most challenging part. 105 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I hear a lot of people say that, 106 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: like the goat is the greatest of all time, But 107 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: when I think of a goat, I think of it 108 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: as somebody who's goals or obtained after trials and just 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: getting to the point where people are always asking me like, 110 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: how are you so resilient? And it's because I have 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: made the decision that no matter what, I'm going to 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: anchor myself to the goal and I will not stop. 113 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: I will take one small step towards it every day 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 3: until I reach it. And that's what it really took 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: to get to the point where I made my first 116 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: Olympic team, get to the point where I'm going to 117 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: the Olympics because I didn't like. 118 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: How I grew up. 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: I didn't like that situation, and I anchored myself towards 120 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: that goal to get me out of it. And that's 121 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: how I was able to endure those heartaches and hard 122 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: those trials. Okay, I was just like still, I was 123 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: just caught up in your definition of goat, Like, oh, okay, 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: I'm with it. 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 7: I love it. And so when you think about some 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 7: of the trials and like the the tribulations that you've 127 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 7: experienced throughout your journey this last year, we're just going 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 7: to go right at it, right, like, this last year 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: has been something incredible. Yeah, can you share with our 130 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 7: listeners what this last year has been like for you? Yeah? 131 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: I think it even extends to the past two years 132 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: where you know, I got that breast cancer diagnosis. You know, 133 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm an optimistic person, so unfortunately I brought my daughters 134 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: and my and my son to the appointment to get 135 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: the you know, get the results. I'm like, Oh, it's 136 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: gonna work out, It's going to be fine, and you know, 137 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: it obviously didn't. 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: It was. It was the worst at that moment, the 139 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: worst day in my life. 140 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: But as I came home from that moment and I'm 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: walking through my house, I just wanted to get into 142 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: the darkest place of my house. I wanted to go 143 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: deeper in my despair. I don't know if that makes sense. 144 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: And so I'm going through the garage, I go through 145 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: the house, I go through the bathroom, I go into 146 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: my closet and I'm bawled up in there and I'm crying. 147 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, wait a minute, hold on, I've 148 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: been through tough and difficult things before. And that despair 149 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: only lasted about ten minutes, and I got to the 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: point where I stood up and I came I had 151 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: to make the decision. Am I going to fight or 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to accept this? And so I was like no, 153 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to fight and I come out of the closet, 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: And emerging out of that closet, it was making a 155 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: decision not to sit in my despair. 156 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: And I think that. 157 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: Each and every one of us goes through trials and 158 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: a lot of times we feel like we're alone or 159 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: isolated or nobody could you know, relate to what we're 160 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: going through. And each and every one of us have 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: been touched by cancer, breast cancer or or sickness. Everybody's 162 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: been touched by COVID. We all have a story and 163 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: by sharing our stories, we find a way to get 164 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: through it. So for me, it was a practice of 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: my whole entire life. Deciding that I'm going to anchor 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: myself to the goal and take it one step at 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: a time is how I was able to fight it. 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: When it came to breast cancer, was the same thing. 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: The goal was to live and I anchored myself to 170 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: that goal and decided to train through that cancer diagnosis 171 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: for my fifth Olympic Games. And it carried me through 172 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: the chemotherapy, It carried me through the double mastectomy, it 173 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: carried me through the surgeries because I felt a burden 174 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: to go through that walk for everyone else, and it 175 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: pushed and it fueled me, and that is how I 176 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: was able to do it. 177 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: I guess. 178 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: That is so inspiring. 179 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 8: Te Okay, I'm not trying to interrupt the show. What 180 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 8: I had this random idea I want to share with 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 8: you and I don't want to forget it. 182 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 7: Tell me, tell me what is it? 183 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 8: Okay? So you know how at the start of every 184 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 8: New Year, Birthday, new Moon, anniversary, new month, knew anything, 185 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 8: people find themselves wanted to have a reset, but they're 186 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 8: not sure where to start. 187 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 9: I sure do What are you thinking? 188 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 8: What if we hosted a workshop where we could interact 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 8: with our listeners to talk about stuff like self care 190 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 8: and self love, oh and. 191 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 10: Ge and we could even have a session about manifestation, 192 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 10: leaving toxic relationships and becoming our best selves. 193 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 9: Girl, I am so excited. 194 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm sold. 195 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 10: We could call it the Vibrate Higher Empowerment Workshop. 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, that is it, and we could even host 197 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 8: a live quarterly wind down to check in and build 198 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 8: community as we vibrate Higher all year. 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: Yo. 200 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 10: I love it, I love it. 201 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 6: I'm sold. 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 8: Let's do it. Lady. 203 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 10: If this sounds like fun to you, visit New Year 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 10: Workshop dot com and join us for the Vibrate Higher 205 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 10: Empowerment Workshop. If you want to release baggage, set intentions, 206 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 10: and manifest the like you desire. This is just for you, lady. 207 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 8: That's New Year Workshop dot com. 208 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: We can't wait to connect with you. 209 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 6: And I heard you say something on one of your interviews. 210 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 6: You said something about how something along the lines of 211 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: living for other people or to inspire or sist other 212 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: people is what brings you joy, and that's part of 213 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 6: your purpose. Can we go back to the diagnosis though, 214 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 6: because I know that we've talked about on our podcast 215 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: about how sometimes our doctors don't listen to black women, right, 216 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 6: and so, how did you go from your doctor sort 217 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 6: of kind of not really taking making it a big deal, 218 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 6: you know, when you felt that that lumping your breast 219 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: to wait a second, we need to either get a 220 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 6: second opinion or something. What was that journey like of 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 6: actually understanding and getting the diagnosis after that first initial appointment. 222 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: Great question. 223 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: I loved this question because initially I was dismissed and 224 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of the racial disparities at the time. 225 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, I have my assurance, I pay my premiums, 226 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: they should listen to me and I should get the 227 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: same care as everyone else. And so when I went 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: to that doctor's office, and you know, he looked at me, 229 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: it was like he felt comfortable doing things that I 230 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't consider professional from a doctor. One of the things 231 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: he did when he came out as he said, you 232 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: need to gain some weight, and he cupped his breast, 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: as though I could just purposely gain some weight in 234 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: my breast. And he let me know, the only reason 235 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: we're seeing the lymph node is because you're so skinny, 236 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: you're so fit. That's not And I remember walking out 237 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: happy that at that time he said it wasn't breast cancer. 238 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: But then at the same time, like like, what was 239 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: I just violated? You know, you know, And so after that, 240 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm leaving the doctor's office. And I know, we, as 241 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: athletes or people, whenever we find out that something's wrong 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: with us, we want a solution. 243 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: He kind of told me, well, it's a lymph node. 244 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: There was no expiration, Like, okay, well, is there an infection? 245 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: Should we figure out, you know, what's causing lymph node. 246 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: Let's monitor it and see if it shrinks. But what 247 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: I was told is come back in six years, I 248 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: would have missed six years of vital screening that would 249 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: have been TechEd or watched and monitored. Now, triple negative 250 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: breast cancer is very aggressive. It predominantly impacts African American women. 251 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: And at the age of thirty four, if I would 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: have waited till age forty, I more than likely would 253 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: not have been here. And so something inside of me 254 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: was feeling like, this isn't right. Lymph nodes shrink. I 255 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: have no infections, I don't have like a toothache. I'm 256 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: not nurturing or anything. I tried all the homeopathic you know, 257 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: options for shrinking lymph nodes, and I'm watching this thing grow. 258 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: And so I was one to push to get back in. 259 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: And you know a lot of people don't know this, 260 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: but when you go in and you're under forty, they 261 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: will tell you no. 262 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: You could beg to pay for the mammogram. 263 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: You could if you don't have a history of breast cancer, 264 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: which I didn't or in my family I had no 265 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: history of it, they will not give you this exam. 266 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: So one of the things that you say is make 267 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: a note in my file that you are refusing to 268 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: give me this diagnostic test. And more than likely they 269 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: will give it to you because they don't want to 270 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: be liable if you do turn out to have some 271 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: issue and they refuse to test you for it. 272 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: So that's a little tidbit I learned along the way. 273 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: At the time, I had to say, oh no, my 274 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: mom and my sister had cancer, and that's that's the 275 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: only way I was able to get it. But I 276 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: got the second opinion from a different doctor and immediately 277 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: they're like, something's not wrong. If I didn't have the 278 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: first screening to compare it to, they would have never 279 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: even I would have not gotten treated as quickly as 280 00:14:59,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: I did. 281 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 7: Wow, you know, it just infuriates me. The lengths that 282 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 7: we have to go to and the cold words and 283 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,359 Speaker 7: language that we have to learn to get the treatment 284 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 7: that we deserve, that we pay for. Yeah, and it's 285 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 7: so infuriating, and. 286 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: It's real difficult because I. 287 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: Very much the more you research about my story, I 288 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: value integrity. What I say is what I say, The 289 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: truth is what I want to have come out of 290 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: my mouth. I never ever want to deceive or anything. 291 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: But I knew that my life was in the balance, 292 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: and I had to advocate for myself I've since learned 293 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: that there are other ways to do it, but I 294 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: felt back into a corner at that moment in order to. 295 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 6: Get my test, and thank you for sharing that with us. 296 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 6: I think oftentimes we as black women, we do have 297 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 6: to get creative and figure out, Okay, I know the 298 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 6: goal is for me to get this test. What do 299 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 6: I have to do to make sure that I can 300 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 6: do this? Because our intuition is strong, right, and usually 301 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: it leads us down. 302 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: The right path. 303 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 6: And so it's so powerful that you listen to your 304 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 6: intuition and didn't wait those six years because, like you said, 305 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 6: who knows what could have happened? 306 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 7: Right, Absolutely, And so when we think about the statistics 307 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 7: around black women in cancer, what when we say early detection, 308 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 7: what in cancer screenings? Like and mammograms? I think most 309 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 7: of us are familiar with the word mammogram, but like, 310 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 7: what are What's some of the important terminology that we 311 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 7: have to know so that when we go into these 312 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 7: doctor's appointments we are empowered and equipped with the information. 313 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of the greatest things I think is 314 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: that we start even further back. We understand that we're 315 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: our own advocate and our first line of fence is 316 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: going to be our self exams. We need to pay 317 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: attention to our body. We need to know if patches 318 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: of skin look differently. We need to know if there's 319 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: lumps under the skin that weren't there before, if the 320 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: texture of our muscular structure underneath our skin changes. 321 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: We have to be the ones to. 322 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: Notify that, because the doctor's not going to come to 323 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: your house and say, hey, what about that patch. 324 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: On your elbow. You know that that's the first line 325 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: of the fence. The second line. 326 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: Of defense is being able to on a regular basis 327 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: going in for our screenings. And I think that you know, 328 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: during the COVID pandemic and all the different things that 329 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: we have going on. In my case, I almost skipped 330 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: my appointment, and it's because my boss needed me to 331 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 3: work the front desk because somebody was on vacation and 332 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: at my job, and I was like, I'm sorry, you 333 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 3: guys are gonna have to figure it out, and I 334 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: just left. 335 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: And they figured it out. 336 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: But I almost skipped it because of my job, And 337 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: I think that it's so important to not skip those things. 338 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: And then you know, you have to know what tests 339 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: are available. 340 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: When I first got thrust into this world of cancer. 341 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 4: I started following different women on social. 342 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: Media, many of them were white women, and they were 343 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: talking about the different test and exams that they had 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: to know, like cancer markers and brack of this, and 345 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: I was like, I've never even heard of these things. 346 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know you could take. 347 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: A blood test that could give you information about your 348 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: cancer risks. And so that's why I'm so happy to 349 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: be a part of this cancer Screening. 350 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: Week where we're. 351 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: Talking about these things and giving these people the resources 352 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: and giving our people these resources because we. 353 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 4: Are not being told these things. 354 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 6: One thing I also wanted to ask you about as 355 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 6: well as you talked about the double missectomy, and I 356 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 6: would love to know how you processed and prepared for that, 357 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 6: because I know that I don't know if you all 358 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 6: feel this as women, but I know for me, it 359 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: feels like society puts so much pressure on us about 360 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 6: our bodies, right, And I think that a lot of 361 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 6: women also correlate our womanhood to our reproductive system and 362 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 6: our breast and so when I see that, there's an 363 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 6: immense amount of strength and courage that I see there. 364 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: But I'd also like to talk about how you process 365 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: that in general, because I would assume that it was challenging. 366 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. 367 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: I think like one of the first things that came 368 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 3: to mind was that there was a sickness inside of 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: me and I wanted to get it out as quickly 370 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: as possible. And so, you know, a lot of times 371 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: I was able to reconcile certain things that were. 372 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: A little easier. 373 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: I had already had my children, I had already nursed 374 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: my children, and so I was able to have like 375 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: the breast comforted them. You know, that was that was 376 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: a solace for me, like they did their job for 377 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: my babies. 378 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: And then you know. 379 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: The second part of it was that I would be 380 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 3: able to increase the likelihood of extending my life and 381 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: potentially a dedicating cancer in my body by cutting them off. 382 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: And that that was like, look, you betray me, You're 383 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: gonna get cut off. And so, you know, I was 384 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: able to separate myself from them. But then there were 385 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: other issues where you know, you have to have these decisions. 386 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: Do you get to keep your nipples or do you 387 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 3: not get to keep nipples? Do you you know, it's 388 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: it's a very big part of intimacy. 389 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 4: I've been married to my husband for. 390 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: Fourteen years at that point, and the breast were a 391 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: very large part of our intimacy. So now it's like, 392 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'm going to lose the feeling completely. 393 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: You know, how are we going to manage? And that 394 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: was definitely a huge fear for me. But I had 395 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: an amazing partner who continued to tell me that I 396 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: was beautiful and tell me that he loved me, and you. 397 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: Know, it's fun. 398 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: It's like being married for the first time again. You 399 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: explore some things and figure some things out, so you know, 400 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: for my married people on here, and you know, it 401 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: was a new form of intimacy. But it was definitely 402 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: a huge part that I talked to women about in private, 403 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: because when you have that part ripped from you, you 404 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: feel like you're less than who you were, and you 405 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: have to convince yourself and surround yourselves with people around 406 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: you to say no, you made a huge sacrifice for 407 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: the people that you love, for the goals for your life, 408 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: and for the strength of other women who will see 409 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: you and have to make the same sacrifice. 410 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: And that's why I was able to do it. That 411 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: made it easier. 412 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: Wow, that's so beautiful to know that you had have 413 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 7: an amazing partner who supports you and uplifts you and 414 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 7: he just got your back and that is that is 415 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 7: beautiful he does. And So when you think about the 416 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 7: things that you wish someone would have told you right 417 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 7: going through this process, what is one thing that you 418 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 7: wish someone would have warned you about, like ahead of time, 419 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 7: like John Taeker, you but look out for this thing? 420 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 7: What's that? What's that one thing that you wish they 421 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 7: would have warned you about? 422 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: I think, looking back, and I am so fortunate and 423 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: so grateful that I, you know, even even catching it 424 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: a year after the initial diagnosis. I wish that I 425 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: would have got the second opinion of the year before 426 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: I think given it three four weeks after it didn't 427 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: go away, the lymph node or shrink. I think I 428 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: wish I would have went in quicker and I and 429 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: you know, that would have been the difference of not 430 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: having a double misseectomy versus having one. 431 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: I wish that. 432 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 3: I think my wish was for other women when I 433 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 3: sat there in that chair and I saw twenty three 434 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: year old women that were in there, and I was like, 435 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: I was six years away from forty. She's almost twenty 436 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: years from forty, and she had a later stage breast cancer. 437 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: I wish that younger women knew how to have those 438 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: breast exams earlier and what type of screenings are available 439 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: for them at a younger age. The mi amography might 440 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: not work, but breast ultrasounds do, and I wish that 441 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: they would have known that. And that's why I do 442 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: what I do. That's why I speak every day and 443 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: I talk to organizations because I have daughters, I have sisters. 444 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 3: I would hate to have your first mammogram be the 445 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: one where you find out you have a breast cancer. 446 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 4: That'd be awful, but it happens very often. 447 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: Ben Shanta, thank you so much for your transparency, because 448 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: I think some of these conversations are you know people, 449 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 6: We need people like you to talk about it on 450 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: a larger scale so that people don't have to wait 451 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 6: until they're in the midst of the journey to get 452 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 6: the I want to say, the inside scoop for the 453 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: behind the scenes on what it's like. I do want 454 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 6: to transition slightly and ask you about the life of 455 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 6: an olympian, like, what does that even look like? I 456 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 6: saw it looks like you might have a training situation 457 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: in your backyard from just tecking out your social media, 458 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 6: what does life even look like for someone that is 459 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 6: constantly training for these incredible competitions. 460 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it changes a lot of that is COVID. 461 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: Related, where you know, my immune system was completely demolished 462 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: by the cancer treatment that I needed, and it's I 463 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: don't regret it. 464 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: I just know that that was a fact. 465 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: And so when you add a pandemic on top of that, 466 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: it was really important for me. 467 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: To be very very careful about. 468 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: My exposure to other people's germs and illnesses and sicknesses. 469 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: So that came out of resiliency as well. 470 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: I had to figure out a way to try to 471 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: get back to that Olympic stage, and so I started 472 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: with the little playground rubber tiles. I glued them together 473 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: myself with ceramic child glue. And it was really important 474 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: because I felt like if I could just get to 475 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: the Olympic Games, I would be able to get the 476 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: opportunities like this, like this amazing podcast, or get in 477 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: front of a microphone and tell women and share this 478 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 3: story and give them the insight. 479 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: And so it was the labor of love. 480 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: Every single day and even in the garage, like I 481 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: gotta stay I gotta stay good because my husband's kind 482 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: of sexy, so I. 483 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: Got to make sure that I keep myself right. 484 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: That's right, girl. 485 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, so that's it, And we've just wanted to 486 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: be a quality of life. I think that the exercise 487 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: thing with me, he and I was already there, but 488 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: we want our kids to see that this is what 489 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: it takes to live a healthy life. And so now 490 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: they're the ones using the garage. Okay, get out, come on, 491 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: it's my turn. Mommy's turned out. I need to train. 492 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 7: I love that. And so you know, talk to us 493 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 7: about what what the year day to day is like, right, 494 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 7: because it's got to be a part of that, right, 495 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 7: being overall fit and healthy, so like mentally fit, physically fit. Right, Yeah, 496 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 7: what does the day to day life of an Olympian 497 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 7: look like? 498 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: I think I'm a little bit different. I love seeing 499 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: all these moms out here. I would say I'm wanted 500 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: the first. My daughter's fourteen, So I've been in this 501 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: game as a mom for a while, and I learned 502 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: early on that I would have to prioritize my day, 503 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: wake up as early as possible before anyone else wakes 504 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: up because I think a lot of times we don't 505 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: get that time to connect with ourselves. We don't get 506 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: that time to look at ourselves, to slow down and 507 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 3: really like like I was talking about, pay attention to 508 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: your body. 509 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: I have to have that time. 510 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 3: So I wake up at like four thirty in the morning, 511 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: and that's me time, and I might go work out, 512 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: I might do a devotional I might sing quietly in 513 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: the garage, like whatever I need to do, that's me time. 514 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: But I prioritize my day and I don't necessarily have 515 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 3: a at one to two. 516 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 4: I do this at three to four, I do this 517 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: at five to six. 518 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: What I have is say, these are all the tasks 519 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: that I need to get done. The most important things 520 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 3: are at the top of the list. Because if I 521 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 3: only get halfway through the list, I've gotten all of 522 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: my important things done. And I start at four thirty 523 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: because it's important to me. 524 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: But now the things that I need to do have change. 525 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: I eat. 526 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 3: I'm a vegan, so I eat a vegan diet. I 527 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: have to eat healthy foods. I juice, so I have 528 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: to take time to prepare and juice my foods. I 529 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: want to make sure that my kids aren't eating traps, 530 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: so I cook them a breakfast before they go to school, because. 531 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 4: Your healthy habits start at home. 532 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: And then once they're gone, then I get to go 533 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: and train and I work out. I've gotten a lot 534 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: better at knowing I do the hot, hard stuff first, 535 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Like I don't waste. 536 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: Time with all the let me do things. No, I'm like, 537 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: I go straight to the way. 538 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: It's straight to the keel, runs straight to the sprinting. 539 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: And then I just as I work. I do this 540 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: every single day now. I speak to different groups and organizations. 541 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: I'm a keynote speaker, i do fireside chats, so and 542 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: I'm in my little office doing this and then then. 543 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: I wait till they come home and do it all again. 544 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 6: I love that. 545 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: That's a great way to structure your day. 546 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 6: And you've inspired me because I need to work out today, 547 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, I'll just do it later, 548 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 6: but I think I'll do it after we finish our conversation. 549 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: So thank you for that. 550 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for that inspiration. 551 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 6: Now, Chantey, we have come to the point in the 552 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: interview where it's time to shift up the energy a bit, okay, 553 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: And because we recognize appreciate and celebrate the multifaceted woman. 554 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 6: And we believe that it's okay to be bougie class. 555 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 7: Yes right, you. 556 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 6: Can still be elegant and dance to strip club music 557 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 6: if you so choose. We want to invite you to 558 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: the O you Blatchet segment. So do you take on 559 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: the challenge? 560 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm scared. You got a little scared. 561 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, I took all the challenge. 562 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: Yes, we got it. 563 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 7: Go be fun, be fun. 564 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: My palms is sweating a little bit. 565 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: Well, now that you've agreed, chantay, we'll tell you what 566 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 6: to expect. So we have three questions for you. We 567 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 6: have three sentence completions, and then we want you to 568 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 6: choose the number between one and three because we have 569 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 6: three photos pulled up of you from your Instagram. I 570 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: want you to choose a photo. We want you to 571 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 6: add more context and tell us a bit more about 572 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: the photo, something we wouldn't know just by looking at 573 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 6: the photo. So I'm go ahead and dive on in 574 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 6: with our first question, and that question is what's the 575 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received. 576 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: It was from an older lady who had been married 577 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 3: for sixty years, and she said, do not go to 578 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: bed and angry. So if you and your hut and 579 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: sometimes me and my husband have to stay up till 580 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: four thirty in the morning, but. 581 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: Do not go to bed angry. 582 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I love it. 583 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 9: I love it. 584 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 7: Yes, I love that. My grandmother has said that too, 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 7: so yes, yes, safe advice. Now more words for you. 586 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 7: T work or two steps work. 587 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: I got three kids you already. 588 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 8: Know, yay. 589 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: Do Okay, a pulld answer. But I'm a high jumper, 590 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: so well there we go. 591 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Oh all right, she said. 592 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 6: You know how I got them three kids? 593 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: That's what Chante said. Okay. 594 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 6: My next question for you, Chante, is what's the sexiest 595 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 6: item you own? 596 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: Can you have a person? My husband he's the sixties, 597 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: that's right. 598 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 6: We've never yet that right, So it's mutual yes, mutual ownership. 599 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, all right, Chante. 600 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 7: Our sentence completion the first first sentences. One question or 601 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 7: topic I wish people asked me about more often? 602 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: Is I wish people asked me about my favorite things more? 603 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, don't you put it out there. 604 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 7: You know, Chante. We're gonna do like a quick round 605 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 7: of Oprah's favorite things and instead it's gonna be Chante's 606 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 7: favorite things, So telling us your favorite things. 607 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: Okay. 608 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 3: My new favorite thing is the home preparation food by 609 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: Purple Carrot. It's vegan food and it is so delicious 610 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: that I don't go to restaurants anymore. 611 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 4: Like it is. 612 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: It makes restaurant food taste horrible and I can't cook 613 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: and I make all the food. 614 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: Myself and it's delicious. So that is my new favorite thing. 615 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 7: And I'm also because that might be I might be 616 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: having to make a switch. 617 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: What is this Purple Carrots. Purple Carroty Brady endorsed it. 618 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: It's open. 619 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, adding that to my list. Thank you very much, Shanta, 620 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 6: just drop it all the gyms giving. 621 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 4: Us the cheek codes. 622 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 6: The last sentence completion we have for you, Chante is 623 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 6: what I love most about myself. 624 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: Is what I love most about myself is that I'm 625 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: an open book and I think that all of my 626 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: stories are for the benefit of other people, and I 627 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: am willing to share it. 628 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 6: And we appreciate that, and we saw that today, so 629 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 6: thank you so much for that. Now we're going to 630 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 6: move on to the last segment here, which is the 631 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 6: photo segment. So if you can choose a number between 632 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 6: one and three, we're going to show you a photo 633 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 6: and then you can give us more context. 634 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to choose three. 635 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 6: Ooh, this is a good one. Okay, so chante, some 636 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 6: folks are only listening to this interview, so please describe 637 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: the photo that you see and then tell us more 638 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: about it. 639 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: This is a good one, all right. 640 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: So it's a picture of me going backwards over a bar. 641 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm actually at the real Olympic Games during the preview. 642 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: And I love this photo because you could see like 643 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: my quads are. 644 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: Rippling, my hamstrings are hanging down the back. 645 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: You got the six pack on fleet, my natural hair 646 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: is flowing off the side. And I love it because 647 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: I completely murdered this round. 648 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 4: I had the other girls looking. 649 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: Shook, and I knew what I came there to do. 650 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: I understood the assignment. And then my husband he's always 651 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: looking like. 652 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: Why they always got pictures like that of you? But yeah, 653 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: I love that picture. 654 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 6: You understood the assignment. That's a bad as photo you did. 655 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: That is a lie. Yes, yes. 656 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 7: That I'm still having to soap that in for a second, 657 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 7: Like that photo is like dope, like. 658 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: Y'all work out an extra time today showing old pictures 659 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: bring up both stuff. 660 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 7: Well, Seante, we have thoroughly enjoyed our time with you today. 661 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 7: I know we you know, started off having to discuss 662 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 7: a really serious, very important and much needed discussion. But 663 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 7: I just feel really inspired by having this time with 664 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 7: you today, and I know that our listeners are also 665 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 7: feeling just as inspired by you. And so for our 666 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 7: listeners who want to connect with you, where can they 667 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 7: find you? 668 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: Yes, if you're if you're just wanting to have fun, 669 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram. If you want some business connections, I'm 670 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: on LinkedIn. 671 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: And you know, just don't forget that. 672 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 3: If you're one of the people that need the resources, 673 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: we have Cancer Screenweek dot org which will connect you 674 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: with that information that we were talking about. Give you 675 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: those resources, and please, what you do, go get screened. 676 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: Don't let these barriers hold you back, finances, insurance, whatever, 677 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: go to Cancer screen We get the help, get. 678 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: The screening, and do not put it off. But connect 679 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 4: with me. I'm here, Carol, I'm here for you. 680 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 6: And we will make sure to add Chantey's links in 681 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 6: the show notes. You can just follow her on Instagram. 682 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 6: Chante low her name and Chantey Again, we want to 683 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 6: thank you so much for what you do, for your 684 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 6: vibrant spirit, for your inspiration, and for understanding the assignment 685 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 6: on all fronts. 686 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: Thank you, Sarry, Thank you Doctor Dominique. 687 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Hey lady, it is doctor Do'm here from the Cultivating 688 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: her Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the 689 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: state of California and contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, 690 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: if so, please reach out to me at doctor Dominique 691 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Brusard dot com. 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