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Speaker 1: Last time on Snafu.

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Speaker 2: We cased the place for at least two maybe three months.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like I was living in the heart

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Speaker 3: stop the fire. There were no cameras, there were no

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Speaker 4: Somebody wasn't me. Somebody suggested what about the night of

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Speaker 4: the Ali Fraser fight? And it was like a brilliant suggestion.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one, Muhammad Ali was the most famous

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Speaker 1: athlete in the world. He was an undefeated boxing champion

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Speaker 1: who just happened to be facing jail time.

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Speaker 4: How do you stand there with the possibility of going

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Speaker 4: to jail.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm just waiting in a day now.

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Speaker 1: After refusing to serve in Vietnam as a conscientious objector

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Speaker 1: to the war, Ali had been stripped of his heavyweight

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Speaker 1: championship title. He had his boxing license revoked and was

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Speaker 1: banned from the sport by the Boxing Commission. He was

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Speaker 1: convicted of draft evasion and sentenced to five years in prison.

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Speaker 1: He stayed out of prison while he appealed the conviction

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. Ali being Ali wasn't going down

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Speaker 7: White America right now spending thirty million dollars a day

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Speaker 7: in age of black and white boys are dying unjustly

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Speaker 7: for nothing, just to free somebody else. So why should

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Speaker 7: I worry about going to little old jail to free

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Speaker 7: my pole people who's been catching ail here for four

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Speaker 1: While Ali was away from the ring, Joe Fraser had

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Speaker 1: taken the heavyweight title belt. But on the night of

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Speaker 1: March eighth, nineteen seventy one, a reinstated Ali would finally

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Speaker 1: have his chance to take it back.

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Speaker 4: And the big fight is coming up Ali and Fraser.

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Speaker 5: Muhammad Ali Ak.

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Speaker 1: That's George Carlin on the Ed Sullivan Show. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the anti establishment icon had something to say about the

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Speaker 1: big fight. But it's good that.

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Speaker 8: He's been allowed to work again. As you know, he

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Speaker 8: couldn't work for three years. Of course, he had a

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Speaker 8: strange job beating people up, but that was you know,

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Speaker 8: he is right, he could have that job. Govman wanted

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Speaker 8: him to change jobs.

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Speaker 4: Goubman wanted him to kill people.

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Speaker 8: He thought it over and he said, no, that's where

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Speaker 8: I draw the line. I'll beat him up, and I

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Speaker 8: don't want to kill him, and the government told him, well,

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Speaker 8: if you won't kill him, we won't let you beat

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Speaker 1: During his hiatus, Ali had become a vocal activist, a

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Speaker 1: Richard Nixon. Before the fight, Fraser and Nixon even met

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Speaker 1: up at the White House and smoking Joe, Fraser promised

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Speaker 1: the President that he'd give his draft dodging rival a

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Speaker 1: Century kruscheted into something bigger than just a contest between

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Speaker 1: those who opposed it. On March eighth, nineteen seventy one,

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Speaker 1: anti war activists prayed for an Ali victory, and on

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Speaker 1: that same night, one hundred miles away, John and Bonnie

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Speaker 1: Rains prepared for their own fight against the war.

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Speaker 3: The kids had no reason to be suspicious that anything

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Speaker 9: Not normal was going on. They had no reason to

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Speaker 3: It was just another meeting that mom and dad were

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Speaker 1: But this wasn't just another meeting, because this time the

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Speaker 3: We were very, very worried about what would happened to

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Speaker 3: in planning for that possibility, we talked to John's brother

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Speaker 1: Through dinner, John felt sick to his stomach as he

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Speaker 1: had suggested that they drop out now, he would have agreed.

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Speaker 1: A part of him maybe even hoped that she would

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Speaker 1: a I'm ed Helms and this is Snaffo, a show

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Speaker 1: about history's greatest screw ups. This is season two medburg

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Speaker 1: the story of a daring heist and the colossal FBI snaffoo.

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Speaker 1: It exposed this week. The burglary, a holiday inn off

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Speaker 1: Commission's command center for the night of March eighth.

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Speaker 4: That was our base of operations. It had a phone

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Speaker 4: because you know, remember this was long before cell phones

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Speaker 4: and we didn't really think walkie talkies were secure.

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Speaker 2: We have to be careful not to alert the hotel

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Speaker 2: people that there was you know, seven or eight people

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Speaker 1: One final time, the eight burglars talked through their plans

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Speaker 1: for the burglary and each of their roles. There were

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Speaker 1: four phases to the heist. Phase one, the break in. Keith,

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Speaker 1: barely twenty years old and having mastered the art of

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Speaker 4: My job was to get the door open by myself,

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Speaker 4: and then I leave and then the inside crew comes in.

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Speaker 1: Phase two belonged to the inside crew, which included Ralph

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Speaker 1: old professional pacifist. This foursome would enter the unlocked office

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Speaker 1: carrying empty suitcases. Once inside, their job was pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: Stuff every file they could get their hands on into

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Speaker 1: those suitcases. Oh yeah, and don't get caught. And if

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Speaker 1: ready with a distraction.

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Speaker 3: They would have seen the hood up and just assumed

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Speaker 1: Phase three, the getaway. The inside team would exit the

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Speaker 1: Rains would be waiting in the family station wagon.

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Speaker 3: We would transfer the suitcases into our family station wagon.

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Speaker 1: Switching vehicles would create a smoke screen for anyone who

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Speaker 1: physicist and father of two, Bill Davidon, would stay stationed

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Speaker 1: Bill had booked the car rental using his own name

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Speaker 1: his own name too. It was part of a strategy

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Speaker 1: the final phase of any heist, counting the money, or

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Speaker 1: in this case, analyzing the documents, would they find just

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Speaker 1: political surveillance? Start to finish, they estimated the job would

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Speaker 1: take about two hours. With this kind of meticulous planning,

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Speaker 1: what could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 2: We had picked a time to begin the action, timing

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Speaker 2: it to begin with the Ali Fraser fight.

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Speaker 1: By eight o'clock in New York City, Manhattan was gridlocked,

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Speaker 1: with tens of thousands descending upon Madison Square gardenp with Mohammed.

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Speaker 8: Today is my birthday and my maid's name is Clay.

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Speaker 1: I'm not on Fraser. The red carpet into the arena

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Speaker 1: was bursting with celebrities in zoot suits, mink hats, full

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Speaker 4: Fight, Well, it's gonna be a great fight Ali.

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Speaker 1: That prediction was courtesy of Diana Ross, just one of

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand fans squeezing into the arena. With the eyes

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Speaker 1: gave the green light. Phase one of the media burglary began.

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Speaker 1: John departed for Swathmore to wait for the handoff. Keith

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Speaker 1: headed straight for the FBI office, lock picking tools in hand.

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Speaker 1: Inside Madison Square Garden, Muhammad Ali faced the cameras oh

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Speaker 1: of truth also arrived for Keith, who pulled into media

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Speaker 3: Keith joked that he had to get a haircut, and

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Speaker 3: Bill directed him to a thrift store on the Mainline,

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Speaker 3: where he got a Brooks Brother's sport coat for five dollars.

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Speaker 9: He was very proud of that.

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Speaker 1: The burglars understood they couldn't draw attention to themselves looking

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Speaker 1: like anti war hippies. They needed to blend in.

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Speaker 4: It was March, so I had a trench coat and

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Speaker 4: then I could put some small tools in the pocket

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Speaker 4: of that without being obvious.

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Speaker 1: Keith arrived at one Veteran Square. He glocked his surroundings.

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Speaker 1: Not a soul in sight, accept the security guard at

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Speaker 4: So I went in. I went through the front door,

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Speaker 1: He was careful to tread lightly.

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Speaker 4: The building manager lived in the apartment directly underneath the

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Speaker 1: Keith was relieved to hear sounds from what he assumed

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Speaker 4: So I went to the door, mister confident, and there's

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Speaker 4: a second lock on the door that wasn't there like

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Speaker 4: two weeks before. I mean, I just about had a

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Speaker 4: heart attack. Not only was there a second lock, but

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Speaker 4: it wasn't a front door type lock. It was cylindrical

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Speaker 4: tumblr lock, which A it's much harder than a regular lock,

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Speaker 4: and B you can't do it with the kind of tools.

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Speaker 4: I had, special tool.

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Speaker 1: And now Keith was feeling like a real special tool

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Speaker 1: for not bringing one.

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Speaker 4: You know your mind, you always go to the worst

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Speaker 4: thing first. Either they know we're coming, and if they

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Speaker 4: coming is if we've got a leak. So somebody's talk

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Speaker 4: if there's a leak.

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Speaker 1: Keith's mind went straight to Burglar number nine. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: but no, the man who abruptly ditched the group a

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Speaker 1: week earlier. Could he have turned into an informant for

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Speaker 1: the FBI? Or was he won all along? Keith imagined

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Speaker 1: a brigade of armed agents right on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the door, waiting for him.

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Speaker 4: I like took some deep breaths, and I'm like, all

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Speaker 4: we know is that there's a new lock on the door.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing we know for sure. And the

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Speaker 4: only other thing we know for sure is that I

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Speaker 4: cannot pick this lock tonight. So I just turned around

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Speaker 4: and went out and I used a payphone to the room.

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Speaker 4: I would love to have a tape of that call,

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Speaker 4: because I'm not sure how much sense I made.

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Speaker 5: Since I was at the motel, I knew from Keith's

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Speaker 2: That was one of the people on the call, and

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Speaker 2: he said something like we might have to cancel or

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Speaker 2: reschedule the event because we can't get in.

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Speaker 1: The burglars were crestfallen. They looked to their leader, Bill Davidan.

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Speaker 4: Five inns, I used the crowd noise to my advantage

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Speaker 4: I pushed the door and it went like an inch

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Speaker 4: you know, working on this lever and slowly moving it away.

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Speaker 1: For what seemed like an eternity. Keith was sprawled across

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Speaker 4: At some point during the whole process, I heard a

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, that was either the FBI or the

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Speaker 3: We were all probably watching our watches because it was

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Speaker 3: I don't think I cried, but we were so worried

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Speaker 9: We were really worried about his safety.

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Speaker 4: So just worked. It worked, at worked, at worked, it worked.

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Speaker 4: It finally got it enough that I could squeeze in.

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Speaker 4: So Luckily I'm not very wide.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: He squeezed through the door and immediately took in his surroundings.

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Speaker 1: The office was dark and, to his relief empty, There

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Speaker 4: I taped the door so it wouldn't relock and pulled

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Speaker 4: it close and left. Then I called him and said

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Speaker 4: I am next.

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Speaker 1: Against all odds and a ridiculously large filing cabinet, Keith prevailed.

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Speaker 11: I imagine myself in that situation, and I honestly do not

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Speaker 3: There was this huge, huge relief, so I think we

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Speaker 9: Side and Mary.

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Speaker 1: Next Phase two, the Inside crew enters the office. The

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Speaker 1: door of the FBI office was now open. It was

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Speaker 1: approaching eleven PM at Madison Square Garden, Ali and Fraser

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Speaker 1: were still slugging it out our burglars. In Media were

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Speaker 1: behind schedule, way behind. John Rains, sitting in a parking

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Speaker 1: lot in Swathmore, was starting to sweat. He wondered why

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Speaker 3: He thinks they've been busted. I mean, he's that's what

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Speaker 3: He's having a nervous breakdown.

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Speaker 1: Back in Media, the Inside crew was just arriving at

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Speaker 4: The men had suits and the women were dressed up.

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Speaker 11: You know, we wanted to make it look like maybe

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Speaker 11: vacation or something like that, and that's why we had suitcases.

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Speaker 3: I remember thinking, I'm not breathing, but I've got to

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Speaker 3: be breathing because I'm functioning. I can just imagine, you know,

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Speaker 9: Us break in, He'll shoot us. What do you think

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Speaker 9: he's gonna do.

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Speaker 4: He's got a gun.

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Speaker 11: I remember the tight squeeze getting past the cabinet through

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Speaker 4: Once we were in there, we shut the door.

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Speaker 2: I think the real sentament was like, holy shit, we

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Speaker 2: are really here, This is really happening, This is phenomenal

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Speaker 2: and in some ways unbelievable. It was like, let's get

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Speaker 2: the job done.

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Speaker 11: I had a little flashlight, but we taped it up

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Speaker 11: with black electrical tape so that only a little pinpoint

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Speaker 1: They gingerly crept through the office, opening every desk, drawer

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Speaker 1: and cabinet. They could find thousands of top secret and

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Speaker 12: I think you were tre you right in the range

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Speaker 12: of twenty minutes inside.

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Speaker 1: That's Sarah Schumer.

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Speaker 4: The focus was on.

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Speaker 12: Doing it as quickly as possible and making as little

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Speaker 12: noise as possible, and being as undetected as possible, and

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Speaker 12: to get out of there as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: Apart from one small safe they couldn't unlock. They cleaned

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Speaker 1: was looking their way. He never was. With the files

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Speaker 1: so they called the getaway cars, and just to add

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Speaker 11: His phone and there was just a one word thing,

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Speaker 11: like a pre arranged code.

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Speaker 4: Word to let them know were ready. So we knew

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Speaker 4: we had ten more minutes.

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Speaker 11: Ralph saw this big teletype machine, giant machine that it

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Speaker 11: was a means of communication between that office and the

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Speaker 11: rest of the FBI system, particularly in Washington. I mean

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Speaker 11: it was a direct line to Washington. But the cord

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Speaker 11: So he wanted to disable the machine by cutting the cord,

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Speaker 11: which was plugged into a live socket.

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Speaker 4: And I was a little.

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Speaker 11: Nervous about that. I tried to talk him out of it,

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Speaker 11: but he insisted. The sparks going all over the place.

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Speaker 11: It was quite a show there. For about five seconds.

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Speaker 3: There was a photo on the wall of Hoover, and

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Speaker 3: one of the burglars slid the photo out of the

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Speaker 1: Cut the communication cord and grab the portrait of the

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Speaker 1: head honcho on your way out the door. Now that's

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Speaker 1: how you leave a heist with style. Next phase three

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Speaker 1: the getaway down.

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Speaker 10: I stand, the round fourteen and one another great round.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 10: Now if you look over at joe'spoto, is something wrong

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Speaker 10: with his face?

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Speaker 1: The Fight of the century was living up to its billing.

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Speaker 1: The first championship fight ever between two undefeated heavyweights had

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Speaker 1: a jaw dropping turning point. There that gasp you here,

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Speaker 1: that's the sound of tens of thousands of fans who

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Speaker 1: can't believe what they just saw. A brutal left hook

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Speaker 12: They only go on the bike.

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Speaker 10: Ahamad Ali was hot on his back, but he's a

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Speaker 10: welcome doesn't that late?

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Speaker 12: However, it's real fired.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in media, two men and two women strolled out

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Speaker 1: two full suitcases. He'th watched from his car. He looked

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Speaker 4: The security guard in the courthouse. The front door of

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Speaker 4: watching for stuff. And here comes the inside crew out

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Speaker 4: the door, each carrying two suitcases full of FBI files,

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Speaker 4: and the guy's watching them.

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Speaker 1: For a tense moment. Keith watched the guard watching the burglars,

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Speaker 1: and then nothing.

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Speaker 4: I used to joke to my kids, there's a very

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Speaker 4: important object lesson there. If you're a white man in

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Speaker 11: I just got in the backseat of the car and

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Speaker 4: And we're all excited too, you know, in the car.

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Speaker 11: Once we got in the car on the road, we're like,

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Speaker 11: at least I was just complete relaxation with some euphoria

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Speaker 1: The two ghetaway cars zoomed off in different directions, One

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Speaker 1: where John Rains was starting to panic. The drop off

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Speaker 1: relief washing over him. He jumped out of his car.

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Speaker 9: We hogged and we'd laughed a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They worked fast, transferring the suitcases from Bonnie's getaway car

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Speaker 1: the final rally point, the farmhouse.

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Speaker 3: I drove and we took back roads, you know, and

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Speaker 3: by then it was the middle of the night.

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Speaker 9: I was really jacked up. Leave it. We pulled it

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Speaker 9: off without a single hitch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, without a hitch might be stretching it

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Speaker 1: a little given the whole lock fiasco, but considering what

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Speaker 3: We were feeling incredibly relieved and also a lot of

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Speaker 3: adrenaline was flowing.

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Speaker 9: A lot of adrenaline was flowing.

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Speaker 1: It was nearing midnight, and inside Madison Square Garden it

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Speaker 1: was bedlong now ring it started to cloud up. The

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Speaker 1: fight was over. It was pandemonium. As the judges revealed

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Speaker 1: their decision. Anonymous for the first time ever in his

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Speaker 1: professional career, Muhammad Ali lost. His supporters around the world

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Speaker 1: were shattered.

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Speaker 10: Oh here we are in metithisquat God, and the people

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Speaker 10: are still standing around. Nobody seems to want to go home.

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Speaker 10: I think everybody has been treated to one of the

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Speaker 10: greatest fighting evenings I've ever seen. The crowd is getting

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Speaker 10: to be very oddly now they're quieting down. For a

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Speaker 10: while there they looked like I'm going to tear the

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Speaker 10: place up.

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Speaker 1: As the world processed Ali's defeat, the burglars and their

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Speaker 1: various cars were headed north. The drive took them through

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Speaker 1: suburban neighborhoods and along dark, winding country roads. The drivers

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Speaker 1: and passengers kept a wary eye on their rear view mirrors,

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Speaker 1: constantly glancing behind them, wondering if they were being followed.

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Speaker 1: It took an hour to reach their safe house.

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Speaker 5: I was familiar with the farm just from knowing the

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Speaker 5: people there over the years.

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Speaker 3: As part of a Quaker retreat conference center kind of

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Speaker 3: out in the country.

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Speaker 5: I had made arrangements for the use of the farm.

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Speaker 1: Fellowship Farm was a meeting place for local activists. Martin

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Speaker 1: Luther King had even visited once it was isolated and

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Speaker 1: surrounded by woods. One by one, the cars pulled up

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Speaker 1: to the house. To their relief, no one had been

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Speaker 1: stopped on the way. All eight were safe and sound.

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Speaker 5: Once I realized that everything was working okay and that

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Speaker 5: the other cars involved, we're okay, then there's a relaxation.

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Speaker 9: I was just.

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Speaker 4: Certainly, I was relieved. You know, here we were, everybody

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Speaker 4: was there. There were no police.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, that was beautiful. I mean, you're in

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Speaker 9: the country.

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Speaker 3: You put our sleeping bags down, and that It's not

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Speaker 3: that anybody slept. It was because we were all so

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Speaker 3: punchy and the adrenaline was just going. We were just

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Speaker 3: trying to come down, down and down from being up up, up,

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Speaker 3: up and hyped and feeling relieved that we were successful.

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Speaker 1: After the fight in New York, Fraser fans and the

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Speaker 1: Warhawks celebrated President Nixon who watched the fight in a

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Speaker 1: private screening room at the White House, reportedly jumped up

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Speaker 1: and down, cheering the defeat of quote that draft dodger asshole. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Ali supporters were devastated.

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Speaker 6: And there's nothing to cry and complain about. You know,

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Speaker 6: I've been always handing out the defeat. So now I'm

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Speaker 6: defeated now, and see how the people felt. And when

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Speaker 6: I do come back, if I ever do, I'll have

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Speaker 6: a more of a hungred determination, which is.

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Speaker 1: Something The loss was crushing, not only for Ali but

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Speaker 1: also for his millions of fans in the anti war movement.

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Speaker 1: They had no way of knowing that about one hundred

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Speaker 1: miles away they might have just won an even bigger victory.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we had a little champag.

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Speaker 3: Then there was this tension about what we would actually

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Speaker 3: find in those documents.

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Speaker 1: The citizens commissioned to investigate. The FBI had risked everything

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Speaker 1: to remove all the files from the media FBI office,

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Speaker 1: and now they were about to find out if it

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Speaker 1: had all been worth it.

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Speaker 3: It didn't take long before someone in the other room said.

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Speaker 4: Holy Macro, you're not going to believe this.

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Speaker 1: Next time on snafoo, we had some idea that this

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Speaker 1: was pretty explosive.

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Speaker 11: I went downstairs and my visitors were these two FBI agents,

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Speaker 11: and you know, they suggested that we go outside and talk.

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Speaker 12: And then the next morning I got a phone call

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Speaker 12: from the FBI that they wanted to enterview me.

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Speaker 1: Snafoo is a production of iHeartRadio, Film Nation Entertainment, and

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Speaker 1: Pacific Electric Picture Company in association with Gilded Audio. This

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Speaker 1: season of Snafoo is based on the book The Burglary,

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Speaker 1: The Discovery of Jay Edgar Hoover's Secret FBI, written by

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Speaker 1: Betty Metzger. It's executive produced by me Ed Helms, Milan Papelka,

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Speaker 1: Mike Walbo, Whitney Donaldson, Andy Chug, Dylan Fagan, and Betty Metzger.

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Speaker 1: Our lead producers are Sarah Joyner and Alyssa Martino. Producer

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Speaker 1: is Stephen Wood. This episode was written by Albert Chen,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Joyner, and Stephen Wood, with additional writing and story

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Speaker 1: editing from Alissa Martino and Ed Helms. Tory Smith is

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Speaker 1: our associate producer. Nevin Calla Poly is our production assistant.

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Speaker 1: Fact checking by Charles Richter. Our creative executive is Brett Harris.

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Speaker 1: Sensitivity consult from oloakemi Ala de Sui, editing, sound design

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Speaker 1: and original music by Ben Chubg, Engineering and technical direction

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Speaker 1: by Nick Dooley. Additional editing from Kelsey Albright, Olivia Canny

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Speaker 1: and Jimma Castelli. Foley theme music by Dan Rosatto. Special

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Speaker 1: well thanks to Alison Cohen, Daniel Welsh and Ben Ryzak.

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Speaker 1: Additional thanks to director Joanna Hamilton for letting us use

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Speaker 1: some of the original interviews from her incredible documentary nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy one. Finally, our deepest gratitude to the courageous Citizens

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Speaker 1: Commission to Investigate the FBI, Bill Davidon, Ralph Daniel, Judy Finegeld,

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Speaker 1: Keith Forsyth, Bonnie Rains, John Rains, Sarah Schumer and Bob Williamson,