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Speaker 2: Where are you? Where are you? Where are you? Where

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Speaker 3: You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have

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Speaker 3: All all these comfortable white people who are living lavish,

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Speaker 3: Why are you not standing with you with Somalia Latino communities?

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Speaker 2: You're pretending to be Christians, but we know you live an.

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Speaker 3: Now live in real comfortable while the people starve, live

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Speaker 4: Glad to be with you as always for episode number

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Speaker 4: Representative Mike Wiener. Welcome, Sarah. Thank you for taking your

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Speaker 9: It wasn't that long ago that this area was Democrat.

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Speaker 4: A month away. Yes, and you're going to go down

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And I'm a big supporter of the endorsement. So

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Speaker 9: we don't have term limits when I have term limits

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Speaker 9: in our state. But if you look at what George

436
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Speaker 9: Washington did, he did a he said an amazing example.

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Speaker 9: He said two terms and he was done. And he

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Speaker 9: didn't need a rule to do that. This was self

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Speaker 9: imposed term limits. And I agree with that. I think

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Speaker 9: you got to have deadlines. I think you have to

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Speaker 9: have an end. And our phone fathers also knew that

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Speaker 9: we become kind of laxa days ago. We become a

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Speaker 9: little lazy if we if we stay in a position

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Speaker 9: for too long. So I made the comment and I

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Speaker 9: made the statement that I would only run for two

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Speaker 9: terms in the House. Well, I'm in my second term

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Speaker 9: in the House, so what do I do. I did

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Speaker 9: not want to be the typical politician who's just going

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Speaker 9: to go back on his word. And I looked at

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Speaker 9: the options and I said, I'm running for Senate in

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Speaker 9: my district. So my current senator, I'm sure is not

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Speaker 9: happy with that. But what I need and what the

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Speaker 9: caucuses offer is if you support Mike Wiener to run

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Speaker 9: and Senate, become a delegate, show up February third, become

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Speaker 9: a delegate, and you can have the opportunity to endorse

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Speaker 9: me as your candidate for Senate in St. Five.

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Speaker 7: So you're all you're all in.

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Speaker 4: You're all in on this concept now. So you have

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Speaker 4: stay true to your term limit self imposed standard. And

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Speaker 4: now you're you're going to run for Senate and in

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Speaker 4: a seventy five percent red district. Oh, that would probably

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Speaker 4: be an in house contest, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 9: We have a sitting senator right now, So will it

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Speaker 9: cause a little bit of conflict? I hope it doesn't.

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Speaker 9: It shouldn't. We are not entitled to these positions. We

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Speaker 9: have to get reelected every you know, the Senate is

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Speaker 9: every four years, and when we become when we feel

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Speaker 9: like we can't be challenged. There's a problem with that.

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Speaker 9: And you see the system that kind of builds up

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Speaker 9: that protects the incumbents, and that's a dangerous thing as well,

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Speaker 9: because it takes the voice of the people out of

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Speaker 9: the system. So I wanted to throw that out there.

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Speaker 9: If you want to have a voice in it, you're

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Speaker 9: you're exactly right. You're spot on when you talk about

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Speaker 9: the caucuses. That's where the real election takes place in

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Speaker 9: an area like mine.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm going to do something to you've been

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Speaker 4: but I just need to know what is the name

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Speaker 4: of the city senator in five right now?

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Speaker 9: Paul letkey?

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Speaker 4: Great, So let me tell you how this works Minnesota

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Speaker 4: when you don't participate, or Kentucky or Washington or New

483
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Speaker 4: York or wherever you are, when you don't participate and

484
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Speaker 4: you look and you get up and billions of joll

485
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Speaker 4: trillions of dollars is getting stolen and there's all this chaos,

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Speaker 4: and you ask yourself, oh why, and you start complaining.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's now our country's set up. The reason

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Speaker 4: it's screwed up is because we're not doing the work.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about Representative Wiener because he's only

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Speaker 4: been doing this for four or five years. Is what

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Speaker 4: I just heard. You got up one day and said,

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Speaker 4: I'm as hell and I'm not going to complain. I'm

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Speaker 4: taking action. And that's what you did. You're just a guy,

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Speaker 4: you're a business owner, a family man, father, husband, and

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Speaker 4: you said I'm not complaining I'm going to go into

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Speaker 4: the action phase. Well that's for everybody. And you look

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Speaker 4: out and you know you want to Oh, my guys,

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Speaker 4: there's wars and there's all these things going on in

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Speaker 4: the world. No, no, no, The action is for Minnesotans.

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Speaker 4: It's at caucus. You show up, you get elected as

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Speaker 4: what's called a precinct delegate. About within one month, there'll

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Speaker 4: be something called a Senate district convention. You go there

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Speaker 4: and you raise your hand again and you'll actually get

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Speaker 4: to speak for a minute, and you say, I'd like

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Speaker 4: to be a state delegate. And once you've done that,

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Speaker 4: once you become a state and congressional district delegate, you

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Speaker 4: actually vet who the party endorses so you can you're

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Speaker 4: saying there's a UNI party, or you know, nothing ever changes,

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Speaker 4: or these people are all in on it, they're all

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Speaker 4: in on the scam, all these things. People say, I

511
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Speaker 4: don't want to hear it anymore because they're entering places

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Speaker 4: of worship and calling people who came to commune with

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Speaker 4: the most High God, Nazis, how far do you need

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Speaker 4: him to go with this? Until you're going to stand

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Speaker 4: up or you're going to stay there at home, sitting

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Speaker 4: on your hands a coward until they round your ass

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Speaker 4: up because they don't care that you don't participate, or

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Speaker 4: you do participate. Who do you think dies when the

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Speaker 4: communists take over just the leadership, No, they kill the

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Speaker 4: priests and the pastors, and the union leaders and the

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Speaker 4: union members and anybody that is not completely compliant and

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Speaker 4: cowed into submission. So you know, if you've stood up

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Speaker 4: in your life in any way, perhaps even subscribing to

524
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Speaker 4: this channel would be enough to get you arrested. Do

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Speaker 4: you realize what we're facing? That is where it goes

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Speaker 4: to unless we stop it right now? You said, well,

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Speaker 4: how do I stop it? You go to caucus. Your

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Speaker 4: candidates will come in to your political area. Some of

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Speaker 4: them will show up at caucus and talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You walk up to him, you ask them questions. You

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Speaker 4: become your own political center of gravity, with your own

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Speaker 4: self developed power, the expression of your human will. So

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Speaker 4: you get elected precinct caucus, become a delegate. You go

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Speaker 4: to your Senate district convention. You become a Senate district delegate.

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Speaker 4: And guess what when mister Utgi and mister Wiener show

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Speaker 4: up at the state at the Senate District convention. You

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Speaker 4: get to pick one. You get to pick the guy

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Speaker 4: that you think is going to best reflect your values

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Speaker 4: where you want your children's lives to be in ten years.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't do it, we got to quit

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Speaker 4: complaining and just admit it. If you know what, there's

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Speaker 4: no way to talk to my audience. But I'm frustrated.

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Speaker 4: I'm really Mike. I'm not running for office this time.

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Speaker 4: And you can tell I'm frustrated about this. And you've

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Speaker 4: supported it. You've been coming to the Minnesota Speak spaces,

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Speaker 4: you're coming on the podcast here, You're going everywhere. You're

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Speaker 4: doing everything. And I noticed the theme you're asking people

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Speaker 4: to get involved in the Republican Party of Minnesota.

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Speaker 9: That's absolutely essential. The party is what we make of it.

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Speaker 9: The party is if we don't like it, we change it.

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Speaker 9: You have to get involved to change it. And something

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Speaker 9: that my dad had said years ago, this was an

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Speaker 9: issue that we had. I'll give you the story. I

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Speaker 9: sold five acres of my property to my brother. He

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Speaker 9: wanted to build a house, so I have forty acres

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Speaker 9: here and the county said you have to in order

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Speaker 9: to split this off, we have to have five rows

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Speaker 9: of trees planted here, and we have to do this,

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Speaker 9: and we have to do this. And I said, well,

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Speaker 9: this is kind of stupid because you're actually telling me

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Speaker 9: how to take farmland out of production. You're telling me

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Speaker 9: I have to plant all these trees, which aren't going

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Speaker 9: to take in our gravel anyway. Is it's barely good

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Speaker 9: enough for pasture land. But they had all these rules

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Speaker 9: and Dad said, well, you can't complain too much if

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Speaker 9: you don't get involved. So he said, do you ever

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Speaker 9: show up at the meetings? Do you ever go to

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Speaker 9: the Planning and Zoning Board and discuss things with them?

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Speaker 9: And I said no, well, less than a month later

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Speaker 9: as on the Planning and Zoning board. So you can't

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Speaker 9: complain if you don't get involved. We talk about the

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Speaker 9: party and people say, we have a uniparty. You're exactly right,

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Speaker 9: and get involved and let's change it. Let's stand up

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Speaker 9: for our principles.

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Speaker 3: We have.

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Speaker 9: A platform, a party platform. How many Republicans can even

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Speaker 9: tell you what it says? How many Republicans can even

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Speaker 9: tell you that we have a party.

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Speaker 4: How many people in the party who are actually officers

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Speaker 4: or elected in the Republican Party pay attention to that platform?

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Speaker 9: Well, One of the things in there that I'll call

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Speaker 9: out is omnibus bills. We're opposed to omnibus bills in

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Speaker 9: our party platform, and yet what happens year after year

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Speaker 9: after year in our legislators, with our legislators, they vote

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Speaker 9: for omnibus bills. It's unconstitutional in our state, it's against

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Speaker 9: our party platform, and yet it keeps happening. If you

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Speaker 9: don't like that, if you don't like the expansion of government,

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Speaker 9: if you if you're just happy with the status quo,

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Speaker 9: then keep voting the way you are. If not, get involved.

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Speaker 4: But this is very important what you just said. People believe.

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Speaker 4: I believe you know, there's still a lot of people

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Speaker 4: that believe that there are two political parties, and to

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Speaker 4: the extent that citizens do not engage and vet the

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Speaker 4: candidates at the endorsement level. You go to your precinct caucus,

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Speaker 4: you become a delegate. A month later, you become a

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Speaker 4: state delegate. At your senate district convention. You've got a

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Speaker 4: whopping four hours now of your life into politics. Four hours,

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Speaker 4: you gots that's it. Now you're going to have a

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Speaker 4: congressional district convention. Now you've got seven hours into your

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Speaker 4: political life to now you're because now you're going to

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Speaker 4: vote on who becomes the congressional district can and then

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get to go to the state convention. Now

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Speaker 4: you got another five hours, so it's one hour of precinct,

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Speaker 4: probably three hours of Senate district convention. Now you're four,

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Speaker 4: another four for congression. Now you're eight. You're gonna put

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Speaker 4: in probably fifteen hours of your year, fifteen hours to

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Speaker 4: change the arc of history. And if you don't have

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Speaker 4: fifteen hours to devote to this process, Hey, did you

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Speaker 4: enjoy football on Sunday? I watched the Bears play the Rams.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty damn good man. Did you watch that?

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Speaker 4: You didn't watch that? Did you watch the Bears Rams game? Mic? Man?

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic? So you know, just give over to uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's poor in drugs and football until I die. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and let's just quit kidding around about because we've reached

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Speaker 4: that point I've been I'm reaching that point where I'm

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Speaker 4: just so frustrated and I'm going to change my own

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Speaker 4: personal podcast admission is going to all be about self

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Speaker 4: empowerment now because for some reason, Mike, you believed, for

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Speaker 4: some reason that you could actually go to that Planning

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Speaker 4: Commission and get elected and then go down to Saint

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Speaker 4: Paul and be you believe. You believed it, you believed

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Speaker 4: in yourself, you believed in the process. But more than

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Speaker 4: anything else, you did it. You're you're personally empowered. How

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Speaker 4: did you do that?

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Speaker 9: I would have to say that one of the biggest

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Speaker 9: motivations for me is my kids. What am I going

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Speaker 9: to leave them? People excuse me if I don't If

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Speaker 9: I don't fight for the America that I love, the

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Speaker 9: Minnesota that I grew up in, what am I going

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Speaker 9: to leave them? When we started our business, the whole

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Speaker 9: premise was basically to create jobs so that sometime in

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Speaker 9: the future our kids because when we started this, my girls,

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Speaker 9: my oldest girls were you know, toddlers and babies. We

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Speaker 9: started the business so that at some point in time

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Speaker 9: they would have employment and they would be able to

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Speaker 9: raise the family right around here. So we have to

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Speaker 9: plan ahead with getting involved in politics. I kept thinking myself,

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Speaker 9: what am I going to leave my kids? And if

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Speaker 9: I'm not satisfied with the system, then I've got to

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Speaker 9: step up and help make a change. I have to

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Speaker 9: make it better. Once again, Dad's words, you can't complain

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Speaker 9: too much if you don't get involved.

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Speaker 4: So you live about two and a half hours from

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Speaker 4: the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a little over too to do Lores in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 4: And you live in a relatively rural environment. And I

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Speaker 4: was taking I was telling you before we came on

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Speaker 4: about a inner city pastor. And I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: mention his name on here because it's extreme for me

650
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Speaker 4: what I'm going to say. But if he's listening, he

651
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: knows who he is, and he saw you on one time.

652
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: And I'd be careful about how I say this because

653
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: I don't really remember very well exactly his words. But

654
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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you the feeling which is going

655
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: to tie into these people going into this church. He

656
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 4: kind of looked, listen to what you were saying about

657
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 4: the life you want to protect, about the Minnesota that

658
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: you love, and he is comment to me was white supremacy.

659
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm just going to translate it down to the cot Mike, Seriously,

660
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: Now this isn't important. We got people, I got a

661
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: lot of leftists listen to me because I'm looking for everybody.

662
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm looking for a new politics. And you know, they're

663
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: looking at you and they're saying, look at this guy.

664
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 4: It's got skinheaded, got the goateee, it's got the wood background.

665
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: I bet you that mother's got a gun right on

666
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 4: the desk. Well, so, you know, what kind of Minnesota

667
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: are we talking about when we're asking people to go

668
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 4: to caucus, because we have to give people. I think

669
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Speaker 4: that you know, when you're in leadership, what is the vision?

670
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: Because on the one hand, we have Minnesota citizens and

671
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: now we're starting to find out who they were. They

672
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: got names. Black Lives Matter activists were in that church

673
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: screaming that people were Nazis, and you know, I mean

674
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: it was and it's all over. You know, we played

675
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 4: it at the beginning. You'll see. You know, it's it's

676
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: striking to see one group of people walk into a

677
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 4: church and call another group of people Nazis. I mean

678
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: that's intense, right, So what where what are we trying

679
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 4: to get to when we urge people to go to caucus.

680
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 4: When you say you went into politics planning ahead, started

681
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: your business planning ahead, what are we trying to accomplish

682
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: here in Minnesota as an elected representative of the people.

683
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: Because you made the statement it's not just how the

684
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Speaker 4: legislation affects your district, but all the people in the

685
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: state were what are we what are we trying to

686
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Speaker 4: get to?

687
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Speaker 9: I believe that our representative, our republic, is the best

688
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 9: form of government, without a doubt it has created we

689
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 9: We have our challenges, of course, but we have created

690
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 9: the best country in the world, bar none. And the

691
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 9: proof of that is the fact that millions of millions

692
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 9: of people want to come here every year. If your

693
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 9: government was so good in Venezuela, then why are you

694
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 9: trying to come here? If your life is so good there,

695
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 9: then why are you trying to come here. We have

696
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 9: the best form of government. If you don't like it,

697
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 9: you can change the laws. If you don't like it,

698
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 9: you can show up and elect different leaders. It's amazing system.

699
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 9: But I see it getting bastardized. I see it getting attacked,

700
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 9: and therefore you have to stand up and defend it.

701
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 9: Like Reagan said, freedom is never more than a generation

702
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 9: away from being lost. And what we've seen is this complacency.

703
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 9: We've become laxa daisical. We have become lulled into a

704
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 9: sense that we don't we're not under threat. But the

705
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 9: communist machine. The socialist machine has never stopped. And we

706
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 9: talked about it, I think a little bit on your

707
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 9: podcast one time. But in nineteen sixty three the goals

708
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 9: of the communist and the steps to take over the

709
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 9: country or a country, and you can't read those without

710
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 9: realizing what we're going through right now. And then you

711
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 9: see the tactics, and I say, well, in order for

712
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 9: me to defend my country from threats for an and domestic,

713
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 9: I have to get involved. I have to be the

714
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 9: voice that says those systems, the socialist program that's going

715
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 9: on in our very state here is a bad replacement

716
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 9: because that's what they want it to be for our republic.

717
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 9: So this is worth fighting for. And I think a

718
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 9: lot of times when people project some of their own

719
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 9: feelings onto others, that's a horrible thing too, because I

720
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 9: think if you really listen to the words that I'm saying,

721
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 9: and maybe you've got to do a better job of

722
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 9: explaining it sometimes. But I believe in our country and

723
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 9: I believe in the people here, and given the opportunity

724
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 9: or sometimes it's the right leadership, they're going to make

725
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 9: good decisions. And right now I see we're making some

726
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 9: bad decisions, especially in our state with the chaos that's

727
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 9: taking place with our very governor, Michael Frey, our attorney general.

728
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Speaker 5: They are.

729
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Speaker 9: Wrapped up in the socialist communist movement, and look what

730
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 9: it's doing to our state, Look what it's doing to

731
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 9: Minnesota and Ice. We have to push back on us.

732
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Speaker 9: So you talked about the church, and I want to

733
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 9: go down that road a little bit, because there again,

734
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 9: ununism is atheistic.

735
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Speaker 4: Correct, Well, I you know my and I've said this

736
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Speaker 4: on the podcast for just two seventy three. Is that

737
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: what we said? A theme of that. I mean, we've

738
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Speaker 4: spent a lot of time working on this idea of

739
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: what is communism, and it is fenced as an economic program.

740
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Speaker 4: It's a materialist program. It's it's a material it's solely

741
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 4: focused on the material world, and it abnegates the spiritual

742
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: as an illusion. So what we really have at its

743
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: base is people that believe in a spiritual life versus

744
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 4: people that think that's an illusion and a way to

745
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: control people who would rather control them purely through economic

746
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: and material means. And that's really where we're at now.

747
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: And I find the communist thing so cruel in this sense.

748
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: We've always had the poor. We've always had exploitation of

749
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: the elites of the everybody else, and we have that today.

750
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Speaker 4: I'm very proud to know you. I know you have

751
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: a successful business, and as a business person, I'm always

752
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: impressed when people put together successful business models. It makes

753
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 4: me feel good. And I do want to give a

754
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: blatant pitch don't forget about tire Get because I know

755
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: you've got a lot of vehicles up there, and you

756
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: all have vehicles in twenty five percent of you need

757
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 4: tires right now this year. And if all twenty five

758
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: percent of you would call in the tire Get and

759
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: I got that business, it would really help us keep

760
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 4: this company going. So you know, if it's pick up tires,

761
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: car tires, We're going to help you out. But I'm

762
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: always impressed when people make something successful. But we've always

763
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: had the poor. We've always had the poor. I mean,

764
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: I think Christ said you'll always have the poor. It's

765
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: but the poor had faith. They have faith. So you know,

766
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Speaker 4: I'm not where I'm in with this is I'm going

767
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: through a very difficult time in my life economically because

768
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: the business I'm in and what I've decided to do,

769
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: I've laid down a lot of my life energy which

770
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: I was putting into making money, and I'm putting it

771
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: into trying to save my republic. Because that's why I'm

772
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: getting frustrated, because I'm thinking, hey, if I'm willing to

773
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: do this, where the hell out of the rest of you?

774
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: Because I'm just a regular guy. It's not like I was,

775
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: you know, aspiring to be Professor Patt And I just

776
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: woke up one day and I said, what can I do.

777
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit and complain. So I'm going

778
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 4: through a very difficult time, but I have faith. So

779
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: when it's you know, the walls are closing in and

780
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 4: I can't afford things, and then I go, I'm gonna

781
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 4: be careful for nothing because I have faith. But this

782
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 4: communist crew man, they want all your money and your faith.

783
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: They want you, you completely under their control. And I

784
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: look at those people in the church, and now I'm

785
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: understanding useful idiots because they're the shock troops. They're going

786
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: to get arrested. I mean, these people are going to

787
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: get prosecuted. They're going to jail, and they've made a

788
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 4: statement and they've disrupted a faith service, which is the

789
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: next step of this thing. My point is these folks

790
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: are going to have nothing, and they're okay with it

791
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: as long as you and I have nothing. They want

792
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 4: everybody to have nothing. But if you listen to the

793
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: World Economic Forum, you'll be happy. What a scam. It's

794
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 4: such a scam. And you go back into this church thing. Man,

795
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: when you look at these commony and a look, I'm

796
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: always looking for any reason to get people involved. You're

797
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: up in a community. There's a lot of people that

798
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: are Christians up there. Are they all participating? Do they

799
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: even all vote? Mike? Do the Christians vote?

800
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 9: I think you would ask this question one other time,

801
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 9: and we never got to it during the podcast. But

802
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 9: I've done some research on that, and almost seventy percent

803
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 9: of Minnesota I identified as Christian one denomination or another.

804
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 9: But then look at our voting. It is amazing how

805
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 9: many people, not just in Minnesota, but across our country,

806
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 9: how many Christians don't vote. They should, as a voting block,

807
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 9: be in control of our country, but so many of

808
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 9: them do not get involved. And there's various reasons. Some

809
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 9: of it's the massiness, the ugliness of politics, But I

810
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 9: think that's kind of an excuse. They say well, we'll

811
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 9: put it in God's hands. I understand that too, but

812
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 9: God gave us the tools to do things as well.

813
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 9: We're not supposed to just sit back and wait for

814
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 9: God's blessings. We're supposed to make them happen. We're supposed to,

815
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 9: you know, improve our lives and put ourselves in a

816
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 9: position of God's grace. So the church, the desecration of

817
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 9: that church, and I wanted to talk about this, and

818
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 9: I'm glad you brought it up.

819
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: It was.

820
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Speaker 9: I'd have to go back and look. But probably when

821
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 9: Ice first came into Minnesota, Tim Walls in a press

822
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 9: conference said that Ice, and I'm trying to remember exactly

823
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 9: how he said this, he said Ice will be going

824
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 9: into churches because that's who they are. He put the

825
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 9: fear into people that Ice was going to be going

826
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 9: into churches and attacking them. But in reality, what happened

827
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 9: here the protesters when to the church and attack them.

828
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 9: Think about that for a second, think about that hypocrisy,

829
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 9: and then I want to put this on top of that,

830
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 9: just layer it a little bit. Last year, there was

831
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 9: a satanic display at the state capitol around Christmas. Okay,

832
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 9: I don't know if you remember this.

833
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I do, I do. It's a big deal down here.

834
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 9: So we showed up at the Capitol. There was a

835
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 9: prayer vigil there, there was some singing and so forth.

836
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 9: It was a great event. I think there was right

837
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 9: around one hundred people showed up that day. But I

838
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 9: had made the comment I said, we're failing as Christians

839
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 9: in the state because yes, you can put the Satanic

840
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 9: display up at the Capitol, but they had to go

841
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 9: get the permit to do that. I said, we're failing

842
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 9: because we didn't get the permit to go do this.

843
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 9: So another individual said, hey, Mike, what do you think

844
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 9: about putting something up as soon as we can? And

845
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 9: I said, great, can you find out how to get

846
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 9: the permits how we do this? So Sarah called me

847
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 9: and said, this is what we have to do, and

848
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 9: we can get it for I think it was the

849
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 9: week before Easter. We could block it off on the

850
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 9: capitol grounds and put up a display. And then she said,

851
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 9: if we do another one, we can get it the

852
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 9: week after Easter. And I said great, I'll take care

853
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 9: of a display the week before Easter. And I came

854
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 9: home and I had some old hand hewn timbers from

855
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 9: a building we had taken down, and I shaped them

856
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 9: into a cross about eight foot tall, six foot wide,

857
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 9: mounted it to a heavy steel base so that it

858
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 9: wouldn't tip over, so that would be solid, right, and

859
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 9: then at the base of that, with help from Sarah again,

860
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 9: she had somebody make the Ten Commandments.

861
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Speaker 4: This is Sarah, I would assume as missus Wiener. No, okay,

862
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: that's who's Sarah.

863
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 9: Firsh Linger down in southern Minnesota.

864
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: Okay. She's an activist.

865
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 9: She is a Republican and she's running for office now

866
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 9: too in the house.

867
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 4: Okay, got it. Just want to know because I want

868
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: to know who everybody is. Please continue. I'm so sorry.

869
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 9: So she worked diligently to make this happen, and there

870
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 9: was other individuals too. We put the display up on

871
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 9: the Capitol grounds and I think it was I think

872
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 9: I had to go down early the next week and

873
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 9: it was transvisibility day at the Capitol. That display was destroyed.

874
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 9: That cross made of hand hewn timbers, and you can

875
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 9: look up the store. You can see the pictures on

876
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 9: Alpha News. Go back and look at it was destroyed.

877
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 9: They tipped it over, broke the cross itself, stole the

878
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 9: ten commandments that were at the bottom. We never found them.

879
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 9: But this is what we're dealing with in Minnesota, this

880
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 9: attack on Christianity, which ties in exactly with that socialist

881
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 9: communist movement. They do not want faith, they do not

882
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 9: want irreligious people, and these attacks in our state have

883
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 9: been they've been vicious. So to think that that would

884
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 9: that would just stop with this going into a church

885
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 9: on Sunday, No, this started. This started a long time ago,

886
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 9: and it's only going to get worse with the rhetoric

887
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 9: that's been that's been then used in these protests, with

888
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 9: the messaging to think about that and Don Lemon just

889
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 9: happened to be there, just happened to be at that church,

890
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 9: right like that wasn't stage your planned. But going into

891
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 9: the church confronting that pastor, this is horrible. The laws

892
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 9: and the selves that you mentioned. These people need to

893
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 9: be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But

894
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 9: what are we going to see in the state of

895
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: Minnesota with an attorney general that looks the other way.

896
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: I think there's federal laws that our civil rights laws,

897
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: and I think that's that's coming. But I do want

898
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 4: to say before we get too far from your word.

899
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: I hadn't in my mind used the word desecrate, and

900
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: it is a desecration. But I'm going to tell you

901
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: why I didn't go there. In my mind, seventy percent

902
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: of the people in the state are Christian. A lot

903
00:57:53,720 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: of them have got Pride flags on their altars, and

904
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: you know this ideology. And you could see in the protest.

905
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: And I don't really want to call them protesters because

906
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: that's given protesters a bad name. I don't really want

907
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: to do that to them, but you could see them

908
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: using the Christian ideology about you know, welcoming the stranger,

909
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 4: and you're not really Christians, you know they're and I

910
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: think that, Uh. There's a book that's called a new

911
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: book by an author named sod called toxic Empathy, but

912
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 4: the empathy of the Church of love your neighbor as

913
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: you wish to be loved. And it's much deeper than that,

914
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 4: because there's a business involved with bringing these people up

915
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: into the state, which you know, as a representative, you

916
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: know the low through social services. Unfortunately Catholic charities. There's

917
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: a Jewish organization that does is I mean there you

918
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 4: want to talk about using the identity of people these

919
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: these are not religious organists. First of all, they're nonprofits.

920
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: First of all, nonprofits funded by government almost exclusively in

921
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: the hundreds of millions of dollars. They also can lobby,

922
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: so they lobby for more immigration, which is their business model.

923
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 4: The whole thing is so screwed up. And then that

924
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: ideology goes down into the churches because they want to

925
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: have support within their religious sacks. And so this problem. Okay,

926
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 4: so now Christians, you say, seventy percent of the States Christian. Okay, great,

927
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 4: does do these people read Bibles? You know, you really

928
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: don't have to go to church to read the Bible,

929
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: and you don't really have to go to the church

930
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 4: to develop your own discernment and your own walk with

931
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: Christ is not based on going from eleven to twelve

932
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: and then quick to Perkins for brunch and I'm home

933
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: in time for the second half. That's not the deal.

934
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 4: And to that extent, when that protester was saying, hey,

935
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: you're not Christians, you know, if they were Christianestians, a

936
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: bunch of men in that church would have jumped up

937
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: and ejected those people and protected the church from desecration.

938
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: But we don't have that kind of Christianity anymore, the

939
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 4: kind of Christianity that was expressed in Matthew ten thirty four.

940
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: I did not come to bring peace, but I came

941
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: with a sword. See this whole thing now has reached

942
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 4: that point again. And I've said for decades, it's very,

943
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: very friendly to be a believer. These days. You don't

944
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: have to give anything for it. You don't even have

945
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 4: to spend the whole day at church. One hour and

946
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: you're good to go. Just show up for an hour.

947
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: That's your faith. So there's truth everywhere. And I'm on

948
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: a rant about this because I know the next step

949
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 4: because I had relatives that were religious and died for

950
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: their faith. I know their names, I know how they died.

951
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: That's not very long ago. And if you go back,

952
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: we talked about the history of the Bolshev. When they

953
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 4: took over Russia, they wiped out a whole generation of priests.

954
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 4: And we're not talking about a few people. We're talking

955
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: about hundreds of thousands. Millions of Christians were killed by

956
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 4: the Reds. And we had it in China the same thing,

957
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: the elimination of people. And we're sitting here and they're

958
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: in your church, because it's one church. Okay, yes, we

959
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: have many denominations because we again are all screwed up.

960
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: And I'm going to don't get mad at me. Why

961
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 4: because many churches great at somebody's at the top taking

962
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 4: the money. Okay, that's We're one church, one faith. This

963
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: is the new Jerusalem. We live in that country, and

964
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: we're not going to defend the freedom to have faith

965
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 4: because that's what we're going to have to defend. And

966
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: if we don't defend it, we're not just going to

967
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 4: lose the republic, We're going to lose our lives because

968
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: faith is internal. And you know, it's like the mafia.

969
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 4: If I don't understand it, I'm gonna kill it. And

970
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 4: that's how these people are. Couldn't we see it? Did

971
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 4: you see that on display? Or am I going a

972
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: little bit too far in your opinion? Here comes winter.

973
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974
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975
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977
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978
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 9: When the I was kind of thinking about what I

979
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 9: would do if I were in that situation, would I

980
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 9: remain calm if you had these protesters coming in and

981
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 9: yelling at you. That would be extremely difficult to do.

982
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 9: I believe that the church is a sacred entity. You

983
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 9: don't and as a Catholic, I mean, you don't even

984
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 9: really raise your voice unless you're singing. You pray in

985
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 9: sort of a humble manner. You bring your little voice

986
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 9: down unless you're singing, unless you're doing it as a congregation.

987
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 9: It's a little bit different. But there's a matter of

988
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 9: reverence inside that inside that structure.

989
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: They call it a sanctuary. It's the sanctuary. It's where

990
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: we don't of course, they came in there because they're

991
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: taking away the spiritual sanctuary. But they want to have

992
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 4: a sanctuary city.

993
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, great point.

994
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: They stole that. They stole the idea of where men

995
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: leave their weapons to pray. They stole, just like they

996
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: stole the word equity. They stole the word sanctuary to

997
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 4: be a place where the rule of law is suspended

998
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 4: to protect illegality. But in the church, it's quiet because

999
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: we go for a purpose. We bow our heads and

1000
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: we don't fight in the church, and they came right

1001
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 4: in to fight. So you know it was really if

1002
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 4: you looked at them mean. And I'm not picking on anybody,

1003
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 4: but you know, man, heymen, this is the time. This

1004
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: is the time when you got to be a man.

1005
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just sorry. I mean, I'm just that's

1006
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: just that's just how I feel about And I know

1007
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 4: if they I know, if they pull that in some churches,

1008
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 4: the people are going to stand up and scream right

1009
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: back at him, if not push them out of the church.

1010
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 9: I think a lot of times when we when we

1011
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 9: see these things, are trying to break them down, and

1012
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 9: then they use biblical references. They look at Jesus and say, well,

1013
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 9: Jesus did this. You know, what would Jesus do? We've

1014
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 9: heard that that's saying for years. And what did he

1015
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 9: tell Peter? He said, told Peter to that put away

1016
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 9: your sword. Those who live by the sword will die

1017
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 9: by the sword. Right At the same time, Jesus was

1018
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 9: also in the temple, and he overthrew the money changers,

1019
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 9: didn't he He said, you have desecrated my father's house

1020
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 9: and you've turned it into a dnathees. And he had

1021
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 9: a righteous anger, so he moved.

1022
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 4: He moved through the If anybody's ever fought more than

1023
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: one person at a time, they will understand the reference.

1024
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 4: He moved through the crowd like a whirlwind. If you've

1025
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 4: been there, you know what it feels like. So my point,

1026
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 4: and I'm not trying to make a comparison. I'm just saying,

1027
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 4: if you've been there, so you know we have because

1028
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: of course, how we see Jesus, the image of Jesus,

1029
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: how we think about Christ is also constructed unless we've

1030
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 4: done our own work by reading his words by ourselves

1031
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 4: and constructing our own thinking. But I'm just going to say,

1032
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 4: this is not the last time this is gonna happen.

1033
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 4: This was just the first time. That's number one. Number two,

1034
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 4: if it's your church, what are you gonna do? Are

1035
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 4: you gonna let these people walk in and desecrate the

1036
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 4: altar of Christ?

1037
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 9: You?

1038
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you radicalize me. Now, I hadn't thought of

1039
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: it as desecration, but in essence, they desecrated that church.

1040
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 9: Absolutely. And I can't believe that more Minnesotans aren't up

1041
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 9: in arms about this. But now the media, their complicitcy,

1042
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 9: compliccency in this is horrible. How can you take somebody

1043
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 9: like Don Lemon, make him a hero of this while

1044
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 9: they did this to a church. I mean, think about

1045
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 9: that for a second. You can almost you can almost

1046
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 9: look at everything the media says nowadays and say that

1047
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 9: it's not true or it's not even close to truth.

1048
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 9: We have to disseminate that information and think about it realistically.

1049
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 9: That church had every right to do what it was doing.

1050
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 9: You took a protesters, a group of people of ties

1051
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 9: with Black Lives Matter, and you stormed into a building

1052
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 9: that you had no business being in at that point

1053
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 9: in time. You could have protested peacefully outside. But that

1054
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 9: isn't what they're trying to do. They're trying to shame,

1055
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 9: to a certain extent, bully And at the same time,

1056
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 9: when they talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion, what are

1057
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 9: they doing. Are you accepting other people's point of views?

1058
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 9: Are you being inclusive to other people's point of views

1059
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 9: when you're going to break into a church? Of course not.

1060
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 4: This is this goes back to what I was trying

1061
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: to say to set this up. What kind of Minnesota

1062
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: do we want? Because they're anticipating this is you know,

1063
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 4: this is what happens when every day people like a

1064
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: guy like me or a guy like you, we're planning ahead.

1065
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 4: We see what's going on. But these people are on

1066
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: the payroll, and the people that I say are on

1067
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: the payroll are working at the University of Minnesota thinking

1068
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 4: about where is this curveball going to spin to. And

1069
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 4: that's why you hear them screaming about white Christian nationalism,

1070
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: because that's what these people fear. They know that of

1071
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 4: seventy percent of the state of Minnesota united to protect

1072
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: faith in Christ. But they've got the Christian community divided,

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Speaker 4: just like all the rest of our communities because we

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Speaker 4: have a very We got a group of Christians and

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Speaker 4: Jews and Muslims too that don't participate. They've given up

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Speaker 4: for a whole range of reasons. We started to talk

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Speaker 4: about it's messy. Some of the evangelicals think their citizenship

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Speaker 4: is in heaven.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Some people aren't here for the republic. They're just here

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Speaker 4: for them whatever, a bunch of reasons, but they're not participating.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of Christians, a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I could start naming denominations if I want to get

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Speaker 4: people putting nasty comments in my YouTube feedback, but we've

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Speaker 4: got entire denominations that are given over to this ideology

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Speaker 4: and actually are profiting from it. And then we got

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Speaker 4: even in the Catholic Church, for example, We've got Catholic

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Speaker 4: bishops that come out and we had a pope that

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Speaker 4: now we got another pope I mean saying, well, we

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Speaker 4: got to be kind to the other. And I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of this going on. We're

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Speaker 4: divided right into our leadership in every denomination. I'll just speak,

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Speaker 4: I mean I should. I'll talk about the Jewish experience.

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Speaker 4: We got ninety percent of the Jews are all down

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Speaker 4: with the State of Israel. Zionists. We got ten or

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Speaker 4: fifteen percent of people going, what has this got to

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Speaker 4: do with Judaism? And you know that's dangerous when you

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Speaker 4: do it, because you know these people are let me

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Speaker 4: tell you, those people come into a synagogue like that,

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Speaker 4: they're going to get shot. I'm just gonna tell you,

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Speaker 4: because the Jews have a memory of this, and they

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Speaker 4: can come in screaming Nazi, Nazi, Nazi all they want.

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Speaker 4: That's just a word. The Jews have a memory. And

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Speaker 4: you go to a Jewish place of worship in the

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Speaker 4: Twin Cities and there's arm guards there, and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to guarantee you, there's a lot of people carrying in

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Speaker 4: those congregations, and they will pull those guns out and

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Speaker 4: they'll use them to defend themselves. But I bet that's

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Speaker 4: not the way it is in the Catholic churches.

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Speaker 9: Well, the Catholic churches right now. Unfortunately, look at the

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Speaker 9: problems that our current pope has caused when he talked

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Speaker 9: about immigration, when he has come out and said that

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Speaker 9: what's going on in the United States is not Catholic.

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Speaker 9: That's not right. And this pope, much like the last one,

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Speaker 9: is virtually a Marxist. As a Catholic, that's a horrible

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Speaker 9: thing for me to even think about. But they have

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Speaker 9: taken that liberation theology was trying to think of the

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Speaker 9: term which was very pervasive, especially with the Jesuits in

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Speaker 9: the seventies, and they have filtered that into Catholic teaching.

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Speaker 9: It's not correct, and it's a terrible thing as a

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Speaker 9: Catholic to think that I have to correct my own pope,

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Speaker 9: that I have to look at him and say, you're

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Speaker 9: not teaching Catholic faith even our Bible. Look at the

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Speaker 9: Bible and look at how many times the Jews had

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Speaker 9: to defend their borders from invaders. But what you're saying

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Speaker 9: here in the United States is somehow we can't do that.

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Speaker 9: Study your own history, Holy Father, this is absolutely wrong.

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Speaker 9: The invasion that's taken place by the globalist, by the

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Speaker 9: communist into our country is an effort to take over

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Speaker 9: basically the last bastion of Christianity in the world. So

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Speaker 9: you're telling us to defend ourselves. But popes are human too,

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Speaker 9: and they are valid just like.

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Speaker 4: And this is go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 9: The christeros in Mexico, if you've ever heard the story

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Speaker 9: or read that, there was a movie about it. I

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Speaker 9: can't remember what the movie is called now I'm drawing

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Speaker 9: a blank. But it was about in the nineteen twenties,

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Speaker 9: if I remember correctly. The leader of Mexico was a communist.

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Speaker 9: He was attacking and shutting down the churches in Mexico,

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Speaker 9: and the peasants, the cristereios, basically said you're not doing this,

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Speaker 9: and they fought back. Wouldn't excuse me. So there was

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Speaker 9: a peasant revolt against the communists take over that country,

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Speaker 9: and it went so far as to even writing a

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Speaker 9: letter to the pope saying, we need you to intervene

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Speaker 9: here to stop this what's going on? Look up that history.

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Speaker 9: It is absolutely amazing. The Pope, if I recall the

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Speaker 9: details correctly, did not get involved. He did not intervene,

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Speaker 9: and the Cristeros were slaughtered by the communists in Mexico

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Speaker 9: at that time. Viva Crystal Ray was their battle cry,

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Speaker 9: Long Live Christ the King. And here we are in

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Speaker 9: Minnesota when you have communists socialists attacking churches. This time

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01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 9: nobody got hurt. How long will it take before people

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Speaker 9: do actually get hurt? That scares me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean this is where we're we're there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's coming where it's upon us. So what I find

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Speaker 4: is so interesting was the one very vocal citizen talking

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Speaker 4: about the white you know, what kind of Christians are you?

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Speaker 4: And you know scream there scream about white Cristo nationalism.

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Speaker 4: Well it's out there. I mean, I know it's out there,

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Speaker 4: but it's not formed into an energy where people will

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Speaker 4: show up at caucus. I mean, we don't have to

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Speaker 4: have it be violence in the streets. It will be

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Speaker 4: the lack of your participation in the void where your

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Speaker 4: faith be in that void. Violence will fill that void.

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Speaker 4: That is the stakes of this game to the extent

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Speaker 4: that we don't stand up and they're going to say, well,

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Speaker 4: you're a white Cristo nationalist. No you're not. You're an

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Speaker 4: American citizen practicing the lifestyle of Republicanism. It doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to come down to a religious war. It will when

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Speaker 4: we lose the Republic. I mean, the founding fathers gave

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Speaker 4: us a process to deal with this kind of conflict

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Speaker 4: in a nonviolent fashion, and when we don't take advantage

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Speaker 4: of that with our own personal participation, what fills the

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Speaker 4: void is evil and that we're watching it. And I'm

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Speaker 4: frust Mike, I'm so frustrated. I mean, I'm frustrated with

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Speaker 4: myself because I you know, I take all personal responsibility myself,

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Speaker 4: like I want to change the world myself. You go

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Speaker 4: back to this, well, is it faith or is it works?

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Speaker 4: That's a very not not an issue for me. I

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Speaker 4: know it's faith and works for me. So I'm frustrated.

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Speaker 4: I'm super frustrated that we're not having a much bigger

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Speaker 4: influx of Minnesota citizens in the process so that their

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Speaker 4: will fills that void so we can avoid this violence.

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Speaker 4: That's that's my point.

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Speaker 9: So which country is it in Africa right now? Where

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Speaker 9: the Christians are being persecuted. They're being killed.

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Speaker 4: Many Syria, Syria is the Middle East, but Nigeria is

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Speaker 4: the is the big one right now. And actually President

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Speaker 4: Trump ordered for the first time airstrikes into I mean,

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Speaker 4: we sent our military assets there to beat down some

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Speaker 4: of these alleged Christian killing groups that are in Nigeria.

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Speaker 4: But go ahead.

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Speaker 9: So I was I was thinking it was Nigeria. It

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Speaker 9: wasn't one hundred percent sure, but thousands of peace people

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Speaker 9: there have been killed, churches burned down, just a persecution

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Speaker 9: of Christians. Now that's a bloody persecution. What you're seeing

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Speaker 9: in our state right now when they break into a

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Speaker 9: church is a bloodless persecution. It's intimidation. It's meant to

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Speaker 9: cause fear. It is another type of persecution that unless

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Speaker 9: we stand up and push back against this, it will

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Speaker 9: end up turning into a bloody persecution. History tells us this.

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Speaker 9: It's happened over and over and over in societies since

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Speaker 9: the beginning of time. You have the right to defend yourself.

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Speaker 9: Our Jewish ancestors defended the Holy Land through what the

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Speaker 9: Moabs the Hittites named the Battle. They built the walls

1206
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 9: up around drew us of them how many times and

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01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 9: we're destroyed. And yet here we are in Minnesota saying

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Speaker 9: we have to play nice against people who are persecuting us.

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 9: At some point in time, people are going to say

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Speaker 9: that's enough.

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Speaker 7: And I.

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Speaker 9: It scares me when that happens, because I do believe

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Speaker 9: a civil war in our country is just going to

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Speaker 9: be devastating. And that's exactly what our enemies want. That's

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Speaker 9: what the communists want, That's what the socialists want, is

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 9: this conflict in our country. And it starts here in

1217
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Speaker 9: our state because we've been the hub of socialist Marxists

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Speaker 9: since the nineteen thirties. It's well documented what's happened in

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Speaker 9: our state and the history that goes with this. We're

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Speaker 9: basically seeing the effects of that. You know, almost one

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Speaker 9: hundred years later, when they left the northern Finland Sweden,

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Speaker 9: the Marxist did they came to Minnesota and mass There

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Speaker 9: was a Communist party at that time in the nineteen thirties,

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Speaker 9: if I recall correctly, there was demonstrations, there was protests.

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Speaker 4: Then there was a Nazi party in Minnesota. Also there

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Speaker 4: was which is a movement of the left. You know,

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Speaker 4: this is an earth thing. The Nazis are not right wing,

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Speaker 4: it's the National Socialist Party. They're leftists that guarded in

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Speaker 4: the organization, slightly different than the Communists. Let's get off.

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Speaker 4: This Nazi thing has anything to do with the right

1231
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Speaker 4: or the you know, because if you go back historically,

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Speaker 4: it was the Communist the Nazis, and then on the

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Speaker 4: right was guess who the German Catholics who were sold

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Speaker 4: out by their pope. As a matter of fact, not

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Speaker 4: that we have the time to get into it today,

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Speaker 4: you can come back. We just have a history podcast.

1237
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Speaker 4: But you know, this goes right into something that you've

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01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 4: done that's so brave and no worthy. You're trying to

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01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: cut to the chase you have filed, if I understand correctly,

1240
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 4: articles of impeachment to move through the political process to

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Speaker 4: culminate in the removal of Governor Waltz as the chief

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Speaker 4: executive of this state. Am I correct about that?

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Speaker 9: Yes you are. And people have said, well, how did

1244
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 9: you what happened there, what took place? What made you

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 9: want to do? Made you want to do this? And

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Speaker 9: I kind of jokingly say, I do the same thing

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Speaker 9: I'm sure everybody does. On a Sunday afternoon. I was

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Speaker 9: reading the Constitution of the State of Minnesota and came

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01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 9: across the section of articles of impeachment and thought, why

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Speaker 9: aren't we doing this when true story, I actually was

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Speaker 9: reading this the Constitution of the state.

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Speaker 4: Well, everybody does on a Sunday afternoon. Mike, go ahead,

1253
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Speaker 4: now this this is a suggestion for Tanner on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're in the constitution. Start, okay,

1255
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: because you know what I'm doing. I am reading the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: I am reading everything I can insofar as it is

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Speaker 4: within my power. I want to know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: And you did it, Mike. You did. You did it

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Speaker 4: as a man who was elected to the House. You got,

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Speaker 4: you have a platform. You just don't come. You're not

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Speaker 4: going to come on the pod. Somebody should impeach that guy. No,

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Speaker 4: you filed articles for impeachments. What you've done.

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Speaker 9: So when I read that, and this is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 9: But I was reading that and someday I always set

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Speaker 9: a time, and I set more time away for spiritual reading.

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Speaker 9: I think it's absolutely it's essential, keep holy the Lord's date,

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Speaker 9: just a basic thing, spend time on spiritual reading. But

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Speaker 9: then I was referenced different things. So that's how I

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Speaker 9: got into the constitution that day. The next day, I

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Speaker 9: think it was one of our reps called me and said, Mike,

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Speaker 9: what do you think about the articles of impeachment? So

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Speaker 9: Representative Ben Davis had called I think it was the

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Speaker 9: next day, and I kind of chuckled, as had been

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Speaker 9: I've been thinking of the same thing, And I said,

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Speaker 9: I kind of got an idea here. So I ran

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 9: with it and started putting the articles of impeachment together.

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Speaker 9: Started going through the process. Found out that, you know,

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Speaker 9: there's things in our Constitution where it says corrupt conduct.

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Speaker 9: That's what is one of the reasons to impeach the

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01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 9: governor or state elected officials. But we don't define corrupt conduct,

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Speaker 9: so we have to go back to common law to

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Speaker 9: figure out what corrupt conduct is listed as. And when

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Speaker 9: I went through that, I thought, oh, well, this is interesting.

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Speaker 9: When we knew there had been hundreds, almost five hundred

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Speaker 9: whistleblowers that have come forward, we knew that the information

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Speaker 9: has made it to the governor's desk. We also knew

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Speaker 9: that departments and so forth had basically told whistleblowers that

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Speaker 9: because this could be viewed as racist because of the

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Speaker 9: Somalian some of the Somalion times that they didn't want

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Speaker 9: to touch it. So when you put all of that

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Speaker 9: information together, I said, well, this is this is an

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Speaker 9: impeachable offense.

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Speaker 4: And Mike, Mike, just let me just break in hold

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Speaker 4: that thought their cover story was this could be perceived

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Speaker 4: as being racist. That was that was the way they

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Speaker 4: were able to justify there could be other things at foot,

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Speaker 4: which is going to be part of the articles of impeachment,

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Speaker 4: which is going to be a debate about these issues.

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Speaker 4: Is what you're forcing this is while they're covering it

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Speaker 4: up with all this protesting, you're going to be forcing

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Speaker 4: this back into the public view, are you not, sir?

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Speaker 9: Well, when we started this process, it was before the

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Speaker 9: Joe Thompson coming out with the nine billion dollars worth

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Speaker 9: of fraud. I didn't even know it was to that

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Speaker 9: extent at that time, but Walls had said something, and

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Speaker 9: I listened to a lot of his press conferences and

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Speaker 9: so forth. I probably spend as much time reading and

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Speaker 9: studying the Democrats as I do our own rules, constitution laws.

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Speaker 9: And he said that with the fraud that was going

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Speaker 9: on in the state of Minnesota, he said, he's taking

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Speaker 9: care of it, and the Republicans only have one thing

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Speaker 9: to run on and that's the fraud, and I'm going

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Speaker 9: to take care of it. It won't be an issue

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Speaker 9: come next election cycle, and basically just downplaying the whole thing. Well,

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Speaker 9: then more information comes out. I'm working through this process.

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Speaker 9: But that's exactly what was going to happen. They were

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Speaker 9: going to walls, was going to basically cover this up again,

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Speaker 9: probably throw a few people under the bus, and it

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Speaker 9: wouldn't have been an elections issue by May of this

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Speaker 9: year when people are starting to get into the election cycle.

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Speaker 9: But I can't let that happen because this is also

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Speaker 9: part of the reason when you break down a society,

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 9: when you break down or the structures of society, the

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01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 9: faith in government that makes it easier to foment a revolution.

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Speaker 9: Those people who are responsible for the fraud are not

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Speaker 9: just you know, the low hanging fruit, the daycare centers

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Speaker 9: or the housing stability services. It's the entities that allowed

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Speaker 9: this to happen. And if they're not held accountable, then

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01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 9: why should people even believe in their government anymore. So

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Speaker 9: when I looked at this, I said, he absolutely needs

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 9: to be held accountable in order to restore that faith

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Speaker 9: in government that we should have. This event shouldn't be

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Speaker 9: a partisan issue in reality, because everybody should be against

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01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 9: the fraud. But we're going to find out pretty quickly

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Speaker 9: what the other side if they're going to support it

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Speaker 9: or not. I'd imagine I'm hoping that there's some that

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Speaker 9: actually do that take this serious. But moving forward with this,

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Speaker 9: it'll be an interesting process. And I could go into

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Speaker 9: the details on some of it, but I think in

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Speaker 9: the bigger picture here, the overarching theme is I'm following

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Speaker 9: our constitution. I'm following the rule of law. Those things

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Speaker 9: are put into that constitution for a reason. If people

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Speaker 9: don't like it, then they're actually speaking against our constitution

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01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 9: and they're playing the partisan politics that's actually meant to

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Speaker 9: destroy our great state.

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Speaker 4: Now were you when you went back and looked at

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Speaker 4: the common law? It was corrupt conduct that you were

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Speaker 4: reaching searching, because in.

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Speaker 9: Our constitution it refers to corrupt conduct. But we do

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Speaker 9: not define corrupt conduct in our constitution. So therefore it

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Speaker 9: says that we refer back to common law. And that's

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Speaker 9: where I had to get definition or breakdown examples of

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Speaker 9: corrupt conduct and what.

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Speaker 4: Did you find there?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 4: What did you find there?

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01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 7: What?

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01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 4: What? What was the definition in the common law that

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Speaker 4: is the basis for your articles of impeachment.

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Speaker 9: Well, there's a list of things that that are that

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Speaker 9: are listed there. Covering up wrongdoing, protecting basically, uh, protecting

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Speaker 9: yourself from the next election by covering up wrongdoing. Malfeasance,

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Speaker 9: nonfeastans are a couple other things that are listed, not

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Speaker 9: doing your duty, fiduciary responsibility of the state. So there's

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Speaker 9: a number of things in there. I picked the four

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Speaker 9: that I thought kind of worked the best. But when

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Speaker 9: you're responsible, which the governor actually said in a press conference,

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Speaker 9: he is, He said, the buck stops with me. He's

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Speaker 9: admitting that he's responsible, ultimately responsible for that nine billion

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Speaker 9: dollars worth of fraud. Another thing that's very interesting is

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Speaker 9: sometimes pieces of legislation that get brought forward are very telling.

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Speaker 9: There was a bill that went through the House that

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Speaker 9: the Democrats actually brought to committee that would have given

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Speaker 9: the departments more money to investigate fraud last session. That

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Speaker 9: was in twenty twenty five, and the Republicans said no.

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Speaker 9: So there's been some discussion as to if you knew

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Speaker 9: the fraud. Was this bad, why didn't you do something

1379
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Speaker 9: about it? They admitted to it with this bill, and

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Speaker 9: they chose not to. The Republican said, and I agreed

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Speaker 9: with this. Is giving more money to those departments is

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01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 9: like the fox watching the hand house. It's not going

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Speaker 9: to work. You need an outside investigative auditor to look

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Speaker 9: into this.

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Speaker 4: More money to steal, more money to steal exactly. That's

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Speaker 4: where I'm at, you know, That's that's where I'm at

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Speaker 4: with this myself personally. And you know, when people lose

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Speaker 4: faith in government, I'm just going to say, and we're

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Speaker 4: going to keep playing this Tanner, We're going to play

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Speaker 4: this over and over that clip of Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 4: Don Rumsfeld. On September tenth, two thousand and one, the

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Speaker 4: day before nine to eleven, saundered up to a press

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Speaker 4: conference and said, we're tangled in our own anchorchain. We

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Speaker 4: can't find two point three trillion dollars of payments. Two

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Speaker 4: point three trillion, and you know, we're looking at data

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Speaker 4: that's coming up from very credible academic sources. That's just

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Speaker 4: the Department of Defense. There's twenty trillion dollars that's going

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Speaker 4: a wall. So we are looking at a business model

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Speaker 4: and you know you're you're as a Republican representative. Now wow.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you're talking about losing faith in government,

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Speaker 4: which leads to the kind of things we saw in

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01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 4: that church, how do you restore that faith in government?

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01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,480
Speaker 4: Which would be the rally point, would be the constitution

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01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 4: in rule of law. From my perspective, I mean, I'd

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01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 4: vastly prefer that than ten percent of the country losing

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01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 4: their life as we did in the Civil War the

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Speaker 4: last one. But I have a question for you.

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Speaker 9: We have to get back to our founding principles. This

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01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 9: isn't that it's not a new idea, it's not a

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01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 9: new concept. And Thatcher, if you have ever read her

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Speaker 9: and what she did, she actually was very influenced by

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Speaker 9: her I think it was her grandmother, who is a

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Speaker 9: Victorian era, I mean, very very firm, and her mindset

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Speaker 9: really comes from that mentality. You have to go back

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Speaker 9: to what works, You have to go back to those

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01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 9: those solid foundation But then you also have to agree

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Speaker 9: on it. And I know you talked. I think in

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Speaker 9: the last podcast you said, what's more important it is

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Speaker 9: that money or principles? And I hesitated a little bit

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Speaker 9: because you have to be able to agree on the principles.

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Speaker 9: And that's the thought that's the thought process I had.

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Speaker 9: Now are then when we're talking about our state and

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Speaker 9: getting back to it, we have to get back to

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Speaker 9: our founding principles. We have to look at our constitution.

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Speaker 9: Even sitting in the floor of the house up above us,

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Speaker 9: painted on the wall is a word, it's thrue reality.

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Speaker 9: It talks about principles in that quote, and one of

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Speaker 9: them is frugality. And yet in our state they've been

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Speaker 9: allowed to steal nine billion dollars. But on top of that,

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Speaker 9: if you look at the numbers, our state budget has

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Speaker 9: gone from roughly thirty five billion dollars ten years ago

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Speaker 9: to nearly seventy now sixty seven to sixty eight billion,

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Speaker 9: almost doubled in ten years. Has your income doubled in tenures?

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Speaker 9: Has your take home paid doubled in ten years?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 9: But the size of government has Why why has this

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Speaker 9: even been allowed to take place? We as Republicans have

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Speaker 9: to come back to those founding principles and say we're

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01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 9: for smaller government, for less taxes, But what does that

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01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 9: mean smaller government? Every time government grows, you take away

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01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,520
Speaker 9: power from the people, which is exactly what that socialism

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01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 9: and that communism is shooting for the centralization of power

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Speaker 9: in a smaller group of people in control. I say,

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01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 9: the people are the best ones to rule their lives.

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Speaker 9: People can make the decisions better than government can as

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Speaker 9: to where their money needs to go. In our country,

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Speaker 9: in our state right now where fifth highest. I think

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Speaker 9: overall taxed in the country fifth highest. So every dollar

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01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:40,839
Speaker 9: you make, by some projections between forty forty five percent

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01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 9: goes to taxes and fees. Think about that.

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Speaker 4: We went to war in seventeen seventy six over three

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Speaker 4: percent on a t tax or something like that.

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Speaker 9: I mean half a percent in sales tax. We had

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Speaker 9: a Boston tea party. And you are right now giving

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01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 9: up forty of every dollar you earn. And then you're

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01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 9: wondering why I can't pay for my childcare, why I

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01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 9: can't pay for my kids lunch, Why I can't pay

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Speaker 9: uh to the church to be charitable. The church's donations

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01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 9: have tainked. People have a less disposable income because they're

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Speaker 9: relying more and more.

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Speaker 4: On government dependency, which is which is really the root,

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Speaker 4: the root cultural issue, which come back soon. We'll just

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Speaker 4: talk about because you know, really the responsibility is the citizens.

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Speaker 4: But I want to go back just for a second.

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Speaker 4: What was the exact word corrupt conduct?

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Speaker 9: Conduct?

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Speaker 4: Okay? And it has a set of definitions in common law,

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Speaker 4: including not doing your duty? Correct? Yeah, Well, then correct

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Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, and help me, because you know,

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Speaker 4: when Brett Bussman was called forward and was unseated, was

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Speaker 4: not he also accused by his own party co creators

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Speaker 4: of this same kind of corrupt conduct that he was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm asking because I don't know what was

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Speaker 4: the grounds by which the party unseated him. Was it

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Speaker 4: a similar allegation of corrupt conduct? Tireget dot com where

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Speaker 4: convenience meets the road. Why make buy entires complicated with

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Speaker 4: tiget dot com. It's simple tireget dot com, one site,

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Speaker 4: a few clicks, and the tires of your choice are

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Speaker 4: shipped to an installer right by your house.

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Speaker 9: Trying to remember what the allegations were, how they were worded.

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Speaker 9: But there again I questioned the process and interpretation of

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Speaker 9: our party constitution. Now that's where I differ a little bit.

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Speaker 9: We want to see CD seven function. We want to

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01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 9: see CD seven is the backbone of the Republican Party

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01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 9: in the state of Minnesota. It is read we should

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01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 9: be helping candidates across the state. But we have this

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Speaker 9: conflict right now. And the question I have and I'll

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Speaker 9: still come back to, is with Brett's removal, there's a

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01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 9: process in place, and people have said, how can you

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Speaker 9: remove a duly elected officer in the Republican Party. It's

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Speaker 9: very similar to the articles of impeachment. You have to

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01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 9: have the votes to make it happen, but that process

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Speaker 9: has to be followed as well. It has to be

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01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 9: done by the Constitution. And if I recall correctly, there

1495
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,839
Speaker 9: has to be five members of the exec Committee signing

1496
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 9: off on that removal. But it wasn't done that way.

1497
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 9: There was three with two district directors. I think is

1498
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 9: the urn that signed off as well. That's not the

1499
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 9: way the Constitution and my interpretation is supposed to be.

1500
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 9: So was he removed based on the Constitution? When I

1501
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 9: look at it, I question it.

1502
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 7: Now.

1503
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 9: There is so much interpretation in CD seven or so

1504
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 9: much both sides of this, and it's tough to figure out.

1505
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 9: Is this interpretation of the constitution right? Is that interpretation

1506
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 9: of the Constitution right? But here we're torn in this

1507
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 9: battle right, and most of the people are kind of questioning.

1508
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 9: They're left questioning. And I'll guess I'll use this as

1509
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 9: a prime example. If you ever go to a convention,

1510
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 9: state convention, state central, there's usually a rules battle at

1511
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 9: the beginning of this. People want to move things, they

1512
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 9: want to add things, take things out, add this, you know,

1513
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 9: whatever the case is. And sometimes those rule battles can

1514
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 9: can drag on for a couple hours. How many people

1515
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 9: in the room really know what those rules battles are about?

1516
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 9: I would say less than ten percent, which leaves the

1517
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 9: other ninety percent saying what are we doing here? And

1518
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 9: I think the situation in CD seven is very similar.

1519
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 9: There's rules battles that are taking place, there's constitutional questions

1520
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 9: that are taking place, but the average person out here

1521
01:38:54,080 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 9: in CD seven probably could not figure out or don't

1522
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 9: hasn't read the rules the constitution enough to know which

1523
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 9: side is right or wrong. That leaves us in a

1524
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 9: terrible position because we're splitting CD seven into camps. How

1525
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 9: do we overcome that? How do we take this current

1526
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 9: situation and bringing both sides together, Because ultimately, when this

1527
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 9: comes right down to it, our opponent here is the

1528
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 9: Democrats right our opponent to win this next election cycle,

1529
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 9: which is what CD seven is supposed to help do.

1530
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 9: We are fighting amongst ourselves in that situation, and we're

1531
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 9: not fighting the Democrats. How do we overcome this? I

1532
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 9: don't have a good ass. I don't have a good answer.

1533
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 9: I really don't.

1534
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 4: I have a very simple answer. Are you ready? Simple

1535
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 4: this battle? I'm not in CD seven, so you know

1536
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm an outsider. That's why I'm asking the question. I

1537
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 4: know what's going on down here in CD three, which

1538
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 4: I want to remind everybody, we're having a monthly and

1539
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 4: you're invited anytime. I'm holding a monthly meeting in CD

1540
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 4: three till they kick the dirt over me. Because we

1541
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of political energy in CD three

1542
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 4: and the Republican Party, so I'm trying to do a

1543
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 4: grassroots revival. So I know what's going on three. I

1544
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 4: know all the players, I know all the people. I

1545
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 4: know what's going on CD seven. I don't. And people

1546
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,959
Speaker 4: come and ask me, and I'm thinking that this division

1547
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 4: goes back to the otter tail thing. I think is

1548
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 4: that a true statement, sir?

1549
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 9: It takes its roots, a lot of it into the

1550
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 9: outer tail situation.

1551
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 4: Yes, so I got a very because I know a

1552
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 4: lot of people are going to watch this up there,

1553
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 4: because it's you and we're talking about this. It's a

1554
01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 4: palace revolt, so to speak. It's very simple. Let's just

1555
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 4: fight for what we believe until the day after the convention,

1556
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 4: and then let's unify around our candidates and defeat the communists.

1557
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 4: It's very I mean, we don't have to make this complicated.

1558
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 4: And I'm telling this to people all the time. Now,

1559
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 4: this is not about us agreeing with each other. It's

1560
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 4: about seeking and discovering aligned interests. I don't need to

1561
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 4: agree with you, Representative Wiener, I just need to align

1562
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 4: my interest with yours when it comes to defeating the communists.

1563
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 4: I'm completely aligned. And I listen to when you talk about,

1564
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 4: you know, we got to go back to what works

1565
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 4: and the frugality. I can just hear the people I'm

1566
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 4: talking to in CD five C see that he wants

1567
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 4: to go back to slavery. I mean that's where these

1568
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 4: we don't have the language yet. We haven't developed the

1569
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 4: language yet to have a more inclusive political dialogue, but

1570
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 4: we're working on it. That's what we're doing at Free

1571
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 4: People Radio, because I know you don't want to go

1572
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 4: back to slavery. I'm just saying this is what people

1573
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 4: are hearing. But when you say you don't have the

1574
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 4: answer is very simple. I don't care which camp you're

1575
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 4: in up there. We're going to have on a certain day,

1576
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,879
Speaker 4: and I know you're because we've talked about it personally.

1577
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 4: You want it to be at the endorsing convention. It

1578
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 4: could be after the primary. We just don't know, but

1579
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 4: let's say it's after the endorsing convention, because your good

1580
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 4: will prevails on that day. We've got a Republican. Could

1581
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 4: be a fire breathing mega Republican, it could be a

1582
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 4: Uni party Republican. That Uni party Republican is still marginally

1583
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 4: better than a fire breathing communist. Marginally. I'm going to

1584
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 4: say my opinion, that's my political opinion. I'm going to

1585
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 4: unify behind that person. I will unify for aligned interests.

1586
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 4: Let's start talking about in the party. What are aligned

1587
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 4: interests that bring us together. I don't need you to

1588
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,799
Speaker 4: agree with me. I don't want to believe everything you believe.

1589
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 4: I'm a Republican after all, I'm marching to my own drummer.

1590
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 4: That's why it's so hard. That's why it's like herding

1591
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 4: cats on the Republican side, because we are expected to

1592
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 4: have our own thinking, in our own feeling, but we

1593
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 4: don't talk enough about aligned interests. So after that election,

1594
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 4: we've got to unify because look at they're coming into

1595
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 4: our churches and desecrating the altars. So yeah, we're gonna

1596
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 4: have to figure out in our own party how we're

1597
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 4: gonna deal with this. We're gonna have an argument about it.

1598
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 4: And let me tell you that's super healthy because something's

1599
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 4: going to come out of this argument which is way

1600
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 4: better than what we have today. And it's not that

1601
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 4: much to ask Republicans to align with each other to

1602
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 4: protect the author of our churches. I don't think that's

1603
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 4: a big ass do you think that? Am? I? Asking

1604
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: what are our aligned interests? Can we talk is? Does

1605
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 4: that resonate with you at all?

1606
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 9: Representative Wiener, Well, I have disagreements with Republicans, it seems

1607
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 9: like all too often. Bringing this back to CD seven,

1608
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 9: let me say this. There was a convention up here

1609
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 9: that took place. One hundred and twenty five delegates showed

1610
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 9: up and I asked the question There's also going to

1611
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 9: be another convention coming up, I think in March for

1612
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 9: CD seven, and I asked the question, will people from

1613
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 9: that first convention be at the second convention? And what

1614
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 9: I was told was yes, that they plan on being there,

1615
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 9: and I think this is great. I talked to people

1616
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 9: in both camps because ultimately, when it's all said and done,

1617
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 9: I think you're right, we're going to have these discussions,

1618
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 9: We're going to have the disagreements. I got involved in

1619
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:06,440
Speaker 9: the Republican Party not to fight Republicans, but to fight Democrats.

1620
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 9: I got involved to fight against the socialist communists in

1621
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 9: the Democrat Party. I can disagree with Republicans, I can

1622
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,560
Speaker 9: respectfully disagree, but when it's all said and done, we

1623
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 9: have to win elections in this state, and at some

1624
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 9: point in time, you have to say what you're saying.

1625
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 9: What do we have in common here? And our common

1626
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 9: enemy is the bigger issue, and that's where I think

1627
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 9: we need to be. We need to bring these camps

1628
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 9: together at least after up until we get to the

1629
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 9: endorsing convention. We can have this conflict. We get to

1630
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 9: the endorsing convention, we endorse our candidates, and then we

1631
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 9: move on. So by the way I see.

1632
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 4: Us, let me just I'm sorry to interrupt. Let me

1633
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 4: just make sure I understand. We've got two executive committees

1634
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 4: right now in CD seven that are vine for control

1635
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 4: of the district. Do I understand correctly?

1636
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 9: That's about That's about the way things are shaping up

1637
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 9: right and all correct?

1638
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:16,759
Speaker 4: And I was told that there's no legal process. Nobody

1639
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 4: can sue each other until after the convention. There has

1640
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,600
Speaker 4: to be an internal party process to resolve this. It

1641
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 4: has to be resolved internally. Did I get that correct? Also?

1642
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 9: I think if even if this went to a court,

1643
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 9: which some people have said it needs to be done

1644
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 9: or it could be done, I think a judge would

1645
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,839
Speaker 9: probably look at this and say, this is an internal

1646
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 9: issue and we're not going to touch it. So when

1647
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 9: it comes right down to it, we're going to have

1648
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 9: to figure out a way to move forward. And like

1649
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 9: I said, the delegates that were that I had talked

1650
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 9: to at the convention here beginning of January, they plan

1651
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 9: on being at the next convention at takes place. So

1652
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 9: will there be disagreements, yes, there will. Can we get

1653
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 9: past that? I think we can. I think we need

1654
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 9: to really focus on what brings us together, like you

1655
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 9: said before, what unifies us rather than divides us. And

1656
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,600
Speaker 9: once we have that endorsed candidate, and I've said this

1657
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 9: since since I've been in office, we support the endorsed candidate.

1658
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 9: Whether I like them or not is kind of irrelevant

1659
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,560
Speaker 9: because the bigger picture is here. We need to go

1660
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 9: against the Democrats in this state that are trying to

1661
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 9: tear this down, that are trying to destroy our state.

1662
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 4: You're an interesting voice in this because you're trying to

1663
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 4: restore party process. You've stood up against in your own

1664
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 4: Senate district to seek an endorsement, which I would then

1665
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 4: assume from what you're saying, if you're not endorsed, you're

1666
01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 4: going to honor the endorsement.

1667
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 9: I will.

1668
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 4: So you're putting all the chips up on the bar

1669
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 4: here because you're a very popular guy electorally in your district.

1670
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:12,600
Speaker 4: But even further than that, do I understand correctly that

1671
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 4: two is there going to be dueling banjos at the

1672
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 4: CD seven Congressional Convention.

1673
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 9: In the conversations that I've had with entities on both sides,

1674
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 9: I think that we can come together here and peacefully

1675
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 9: debate what needs to be done at CD seven.

1676
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 4: I think, so what you're saying is there's a deal,

1677
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 4: it just hasn't been consummated yet. There is an agreement.

1678
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 4: There's an agreement.

1679
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 9: I didn't say that to that point yet. I think

1680
01:48:54,520 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 9: that is where that is going to come up. But

1681
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 9: at that time, I think both sides have to realize

1682
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 9: that we can dig in our heels and we can

1683
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 9: point blame, we can cast dispersions, but we have to

1684
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 9: come to some agreement at that point in time for

1685
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 9: the good of the party, for the good of the people,

1686
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 9: and to take our state back because if we go

1687
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 9: into this next election cycle fractured that strength that CD

1688
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 9: seven should be. Like I said, it's the backbone of

1689
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 9: the Republican Party in the state of Minnesota. What are

1690
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 9: you without a backbone? What are you without that support?

1691
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 9: You're basically entirely read.

1692
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 4: Your goua on the ground without a backbone. But I'm

1693
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 4: going to say again, and I'm and you know where

1694
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm coming from. This fight in the party is going

1695
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 4: to continue, sure, But but why is it so hard

1696
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 4: for me to just say, after the convention we have

1697
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 4: a lined in trusts, we'll start fighting again after the general.

1698
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 4: The day after the we have to have what's called

1699
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 4: a cease fire. I mean, I'm a proponent, and you

1700
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 4: know where I'm coming from, and my audience knows where

1701
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm coming from. And you talk to me, and look

1702
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 4: what you're doing up there. You know you're not I mean,

1703
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 4: you're you're bucking the party orthodoxy yourself. But you're also

1704
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 4: saying it's healthy, this is politics. And I agree with you,

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01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 4: and we just have to build in a new idea

1706
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 4: because I hear the Reagan thing, well, you don't never

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01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 4: criticize a fellow Republican or that might have worked then.

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01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 4: Right now, it needs to be from the day after

1709
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 4: we have a candidate to the day after the general election,

1710
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 4: we're putting down our intra party conflict to focus on

1711
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 4: our aligned interest. And then we had people, Hey, we

1712
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 4: got a lot of people in our party that surprised us,

1713
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 4: like Michael broad Corp was on the party payroll and

1714
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 4: he endorsed Harris Waltz. So when they do that, they

1715
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 4: kind of tell you who they are. And Republicans are

1716
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 4: still going on a show and I'm thinking to myself, wow,

1717
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 4: not only can you out yourself as a communist, but

1718
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 4: then people go on like I saw Adam Schwartzey go

1719
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 4: on and show. I'm thinking to myself, Okay, that's very

1720
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 4: liberal of you to go on there, because that's what

1721
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 4: that is. That's very liberal. Okay. Now, let's just be

1722
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: very honest about who these people are, because they're telling

1723
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 4: us who they are. And if we would instead put

1724
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 4: our intra party fighting down in a line behind our

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01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 4: candidates and get them elected, then I'm then the fight

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01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 4: actually has some virtue. These people are not Sabo tours.

1727
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 4: They're actually committed Republicans that have an intra party argument

1728
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:04,640
Speaker 4: they're trying to solve while staying focused on protecting our

1729
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 4: churches in our state and our freedoms. And I just

1730
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 4: don't think that that's that much of an ask. I

1731
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 4: don't have to like somebody to work with them. You know,

1732
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 4: I'm in you're in business, Mike. Do you like all

1733
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: your customers? Don't tell me yes, that's just the regular answer. Okay, Yes,

1734
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 4: I love all my customers. No, you don't you like

1735
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 4: some more than others? Okay, we all do. My point

1736
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 4: is very simple. We must unify. When the time comes

1737
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 4: to unify. And you're a baby in politics, or you're

1738
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 4: a saboteur in the Republican Party. If you can't unify

1739
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,879
Speaker 4: behind our Republican candidates at this time, going into this midterm,

1740
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 4: if you're gonna sit on the sidelines and criticize or

1741
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 4: jump over to the other side, I'm not going to

1742
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 4: forget that behavior here. I'm just not that's me. That's

1743
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 4: my statement. But I'm just a pundit. You're a representative,

1744
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:08,719
Speaker 4: So I'm going to give you the last word.

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01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 9: I'll say it this way. We're thrown into the politics

1746
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 9: in Minnesota, but there's there's vastly different personal personalities, points

1747
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 9: of view, things like that, I sit right next to

1748
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 9: Andrew Myers. He sits from one side of me. Jeff

1749
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 9: Whitey sits to the other. Their districts are entirely different

1750
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:38,840
Speaker 9: than mine. Could I run an Andrew Meyers district and

1751
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 9: win the way I speak, the way I talk? Probably not.

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01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 4: We don't know the answer to that question, Representative. We

1753
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 4: don't know. We know an orthodoxy that they tell us

1754
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: down here in CD three, and what have we gotten

1755
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 4: CD three? Nothing? There's nothing left here.

1756
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 9: Andrew Myers went up in my district.

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01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 4: Because you know why, he'll say anything he needs to

1758
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 4: do to win. Sorry say this.

1759
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Speaker 9: I understand when you put a let me say this,

1760
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 9: when you put a big group of people together from

1761
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,759
Speaker 9: all over the state, from different backgrounds, from different walks

1762
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 9: of life, there is going to be conflict. It will

1763
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 9: happen every single time. That is our human nature. And

1764
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 9: what do you do to promote the principles, promote the ideas?

1765
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 9: We have to better articulate the message. I believe that

1766
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 9: a more conservative message can resonate in the metro. We

1767
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 9: simply haven't done it. We simply haven't messaged well enough.

1768
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 9: We're often looked at as this divide. But how much time?

1769
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 9: And to the reference you made before about a pastor

1770
01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 9: down in the cities looking at me and thinking certain things. Okay,

1771
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 9: I don't necessarily look at that person or think of

1772
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 9: that person and put them into a group or a camp.

1773
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 9: I don't do that. I view things a little bit different.

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 9: I might have a whole lot of things in common

1775
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 9: with that person, but do we have differences? Sure? Are

1776
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 9: we going to argue about the differences? And I have

1777
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 9: a problem with that either. Overall, though, is that person

1778
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 9: more in line with my goals, agenda, vision of what

1779
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 9: Minnesota is supposed to be probably, So let's talk about

1780
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 9: the things. Let's have the discussion. But all too often,

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01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 9: and in Republican circles, we pull ourselves into these little

1782
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 9: camps and we don't have those discussions, and that's not

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01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 9: healthy for us either. We can have the I think

1784
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 9: back to when I was a youngster and I have

1785
01:55:55,040 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 9: seven brothers, and we fought like cats and dogs, I

1786
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:01,959
Speaker 9: mean physical.

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Speaker 4: Now, you guys fought like dogs. Leave the cats out

1788
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 9: We fought at the second time, did we defend each

1790
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 9: other if there was an outside entity that threatened one

1791
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 9: of us? Dang right, you think you're going to get

1792
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 9: away with pushing my brother around?

1793
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 5: No?

1794
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, that just didn't happen. Why can't

1795
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 9: we have the same mentality when it comes to politics

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01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 9: in the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Can I let me just say, and I'm still going

1798
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 4: to give you the last word. My with Andrew Myers

1799
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 4: is in my district, so I follow everything he does.

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Speaker 4: I think a conservative message is what's missing in CD

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Speaker 4: three since Eric Pauls and trash Trump in twenty fifteen

1802
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 4: and twenty sixteen. So we let this district go by

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 4: not supporting, for example, the chair of SD forty five

1804
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 4: Kathy Folk will us Senate race. She refused to endorse

1805
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 4: Trump in the last cycle. So you know when you

1806
01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 4: do this, when you do it in an election cycle

1807
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 4: between here and there, between the convention to the general,

1808
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 4: when we're divided in there, well we're going to lose.

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01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 4: And we did here in forty five because of that.

1810
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 4: So I don't think it's a big ask. And when

1811
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 4: you see do we talk to each other, it's not me.

1812
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 4: I'll talk to anybody. I mean, I try to have

1813
01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 4: good relations with Stan Hamilton down here in CD three

1814
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 4: and something happened. He called me up, called up and

1815
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 4: called called me up and start swearing at me. He's

1816
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 4: still my friend. I'm not angry at him for losing

1817
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 4: his temper. I got a stronger spine than that. But

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01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 4: you know, come on, if we're going to talk, we

1819
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 4: have to look at where the wall is for talking,

1820
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 4: and it's not here at Free People Radio. I'll talk

1821
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: to anybody. I'll go any where anytime to talk to anybody,

1822
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 4: and I'll listen to them because I am seeking the

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01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 4: kind of evolution in the party that gives us a

1824
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 4: winning message. I'm not looking at power. I'm looking at

1825
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,320
Speaker 4: the people. What do we need to do as a

1826
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 4: party to bring these non activated, non participating people into

1827
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 4: the party so that we have a get out the

1828
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 4: vote mechanism so that we can win elections. And that's

1829
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, I'm very strategic and very political about what

1830
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to achieve. And you know, you have the

1831
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 4: last word. Please go. We got about five minutes left.

1832
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 4: Please finish this land the plane, please the way you

1833
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 4: think it needs to get on the ground.

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Speaker 9: Being in politics has been an extremely educational experience for me.

1835
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 9: It's amazing that the things that I thought were priorities

1836
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 9: before I get into this, and I think, boy, I

1837
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 9: was kind of wrong about some stuff. The division and

1838
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 9: our party, the different mindsets and so forth. What does

1839
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 9: it mean? What does it show to me if we

1840
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 9: had a center of influence, if you had leadership, if

1841
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 9: you had some guiding principles. And I look at what

1842
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 9: Kennedy did in the nineteen sixties the Race to the Moon,

1843
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 9: basically saying that the Marxists the Communists were going to

1844
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 9: beat us, and the whole country rallied behind him, Democrats

1845
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 9: and Republicans. He was one of the best liked candidates

1846
01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 9: because he gave them something to shoot for. He gave

1847
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 9: them a goal, and we're lacking that leadership in the

1848
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 9: party right now. We're lacking that person, that personality that

1849
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 9: is going to bring both sides together or there's more

1850
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 9: than both sides, there's more than that. Who is that

1851
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 9: going to be? What is it going to take? I

1852
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 9: think leaders are kind of are molded, they're formed. Sometimes

1853
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 9: they're not necessarily just you know, cookie cutter people. But

1854
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 9: we're lacking that. And I think once we had a

1855
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 9: leader that people could look up to and say, I

1856
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 9: may not agree with what you have to say, but

1857
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 9: I believe that you're shooting for the best intentions. That

1858
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 9: to me is one of the things that's the biggest

1859
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 9: detriment to our party right now. That's the thing that

1860
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 9: probably leads us to not winning elections. We've got to

1861
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 9: get a leader in this party that is going to

1862
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 9: be that figure that people are going to get behind.

1863
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 9: I think the candidates would rally behind, I think the

1864
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 9: donors would rally behind. And we simply don't have that

1865
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 9: person yet. Now we didn't end up with Donald Trump overnight.

1866
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 9: It took time to get to that point. I believe

1867
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 9: he is an effective leader for the most part. Does

1868
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 9: he have his flaws, Sure he does, but he has

1869
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 9: gotten more votes than any other candidate won the popular vote.

1870
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 9: He's done an amazing job on a lot of different things.

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02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 9: In the state of Minnesota. We need a leader that

1872
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 9: maybe not everybody's going to agree with, but they can

1873
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:49,440
Speaker 9: get behind. That's where I think our biggest hurdle is

1874
02:01:49,600 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 9: right now, and I look for that. I wait for that.

1875
02:01:56,840 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 9: I hope somebody fills that role sooner rather than later,

1876
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 9: because we can't afford another Democrat trifecta in the state.

1877
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 9: But as you build people up, as you have more personalities,

1878
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:18,080
Speaker 9: I suppose that that are fostering something new rather than

1879
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 9: the status quo. You're going to see Eventually a leader

1880
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 9: that will be formed, will be shaped for a time

1881
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 9: such as this, and that's.

1882
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Speaker 4: A great way to bring the podcasts and get the

1883
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 4: plane on the ground a statement of faith, which I

1884
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna change my podcast can be a lot

1885
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 4: more about personal empowerment because it's the people that have

1886
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 4: to find and believe and trust this leader. I think

1887
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 4: that the content of that person's presentation to the constituents

1888
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 4: has to be authentic and they have to trust them,

1889
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 4: which means he has to be or she He or

1890
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 4: she would have to be an this person honesty. I mean,

1891
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 4: if if on this hand we got all this corruption,

1892
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 4: then the antidote to the corruption is guess what, republicanism,

1893
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 4: because it's an anti corruption political philosophy. So you're going

1894
02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 4: to be down here soon in February, and I want

1895
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 4: to invite you back in the studio. You're always welcome here.

1896
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 4: We always have these great conversations. I mean, I really

1897
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:29,000
Speaker 4: enjoyed talking to you. I find your presence to be

1898
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 4: assuring and thoughtful, and I really appreciate that in a leader.

1899
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 4: So thank you for coming on today. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: talking a little bit about the CD seven issue, which

1901
02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 4: we I don't understand that very well, and your articles

1902
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 4: of impeachment that's going to be national news here very shortly.

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02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 9: Well, I was on the BBC yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Actually, wow, working for the crowd on that one.

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02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 9: Wow.

1906
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Speaker 4: There you go. How how timely inappropriate that is. Tell

1907
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 4: them where to send the check when you show up

1908
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 4: for the BBC. They like to pay any Hell, let's

1909
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,680
Speaker 4: take their money. You know, if somebody said to me

1910
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 4: one time, you can take their money as long as

1911
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Speaker 4: you don't sell out. See that's the key, don't sell out.

1912
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Speaker 4: Let's keep and develop a Republican political philosophy that doesn't

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02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 4: change from district to district. I know that's a little different.

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Speaker 4: We don't have time to get into it. But I

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Speaker 4: as Timplente and Zach Duckworth agreed, you have to trick

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Speaker 4: the Republican base to get elected. The trick which is

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Speaker 4: not after they've been robbed for billions. It's great to

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Speaker 4: see you, great, godspeed, good luck, good health. Please when

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Speaker 4: you come down, come back, and maybe we can even

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Speaker 4: go sit down some Well we actually went out one time.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it again. I'm inviting yell. Thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for coming in to day and we love your

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Speaker 4: Me Ye, good to see you, Mike. Thank you very much.

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