Speaker 1: Now it's time for our daily Bloomberg lab reef exploring
Speaker 1: legal issues in the news, and there was speculation that
Speaker 1: President Trump would part in Arizona Sheriff Joe R. Pio
Speaker 1: at a rally in Phoenix Tuesday night. Her Pio was
Speaker 1: found guilty of criminal contempt after defying a judge's order
Speaker 1: to end traffic patrols targeting suspected undocumented immigrants. The President
Speaker 1: did not part in our Pio that night, but today
Speaker 1: Bloomberg Law host Jing Grosso and Michael Best discussed the
Speaker 1: possibility with Mark Ostler, professor at St. Thomas School of Law.
Speaker 1: Mark tell us what our pios stands for in the
Speaker 1: communities he has policed. Yeah, he's very controversial, and he's
Speaker 1: someone that you know, expressly invited confrontation with the Hispanic
Speaker 1: community in in the Phoenix area. Um, and he got it.
Speaker 1: You know that he um organized special projects, for example, uh,
Speaker 1: targeting areas where people were picking up day laborers. Um,
Speaker 1: we're going to be uh, you know. And and then
Speaker 1: of course enforcing Arizona's laws regarding immigration that were later
Speaker 1: largely struck down. Um. And so he's someone that invited
Speaker 1: controversy in the same way that that Donald Trump has
Speaker 1: and was divisive in much the same way. So if
Speaker 1: he was just if he was enforcing Arizona's laws, he
Speaker 1: didn't write the laws and he didn't strike up down.
Speaker 1: How what is the trouble that our Peo got in
Speaker 1: had to do um with with racial and ethnic profiling specifically,
Speaker 1: and there was a pretty damning report from the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice. Uh in back I think that was. And
Speaker 1: then you had the contempt. There was an order that
Speaker 1: was put in place by the court out there. He
Speaker 1: was held in contempt to that and then held in
Speaker 1: criminal contempt just back in July. There's a process for
Speaker 1: presidential pardons. Has that been followed in any respect in
Speaker 1: our Pio's case? Um, From what our Pio has said,
Speaker 1: he said that he did not seek a pardon. That
Speaker 1: means that he hasn't submitted a petition. The rules are
Speaker 1: are pretty clear about how this is supposed to work. Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a constitutional power of the president, and
Speaker 1: that means that the president has the ability not to
Speaker 1: follow the rules if he doesn't want to. However, it
Speaker 1: does um definitely, Mark. This is something different than what
Speaker 1: we usually see with clemency and that's Mark Ostler, professor
Speaker 1: at St. Thomas School of Law, speaking with Bloomberg Law
Speaker 1: host Jing Grosso and Michael Best. You can listen to
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