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Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you are listening to the

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Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. My guest this week is recording artist

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Speaker 1: Bailey Brian. So you guys know that I love supporting

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Speaker 1: badass women, but if you give me a sensitive badass woman,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the holy grail for me. Bailey

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Speaker 1: Brian is the ultimate bad bitch because even in her

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Speaker 1: early twenties, she already understands that the best bad bitch

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Speaker 1: is the sensitive bad bitch. It's like what I talked

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Speaker 1: about with Jake Woodard on the Masculine and Feminine Energy

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Speaker 1: podcast a few weeks ago. But the power of the

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Speaker 1: feminine energy is in its openness, it's flow, it's vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: That is where the strength truly comes in. Bailey is

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Speaker 1: killing it not only internally by tapping into her own sensitivity,

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Speaker 1: but also professionally as one of the top up and

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Speaker 1: coming artist musically. Her latest single Play with Me, where

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Speaker 1: she is calling out all of these fun boys and

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Speaker 1: telling them to eloquently kiss off, has already amassed over

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Speaker 1: one million streams worldwide, and she was also greatly praised

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Speaker 1: by Rolling Stone as an unapologetic modern pop project that

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Speaker 1: captures an artist indulging her undeluded instincts. That was a mouthful.

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Speaker 1: She's also open for Lizzo, so I mean, yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I've talked with Bailey about how she continues

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Speaker 1: to embody and empower others with her sensitive, bad bitch attitude,

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Speaker 1: and also how she is now handling those so called

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Speaker 1: fun boys. We also found out that we're both angeogram fours,

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Speaker 1: so if you know anything about that, you will understand

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Speaker 1: that this conversation covered all of the emotions. Here's Bailey. Okay, So,

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Speaker 1: as I was reading up on you the last few days,

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Speaker 1: I had this consistent thought to myself, like, damn, I

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Speaker 1: wish I would have been this self aware and wise

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Speaker 1: at the age of twenty two. Like I was just

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Speaker 1: out drinking in college. So I assume you get called

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Speaker 1: an old soul a lot, right, Yeah, where do you

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Speaker 1: think this internal endo, phendance and just this wisdom comes from.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know. I mean, I was out

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Speaker 1: drinking before COVID happened too, so you're both. But yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: I'm a healthy combo um. But you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: really know exactly I think. Um, I really start came

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Speaker 1: kind of quickly into my own and like into my

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Speaker 1: maturity and my identity. Um. When I moved to Nashville

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Speaker 1: when I was seventeen, Um, I kind of always knew

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Speaker 1: to write and sing songs. Um. And I learned that

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Speaker 1: Nashville was the place to do. When I learned that,

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Speaker 1: thankfully I didn't grow up with any kind of pressure

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Speaker 1: a formula. Really, like my parents were never really like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you have to go to college, Oh you have to

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Speaker 1: they saw my grades. They were like, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: And so I often feel like I kind of like

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Speaker 1: really happy to be where I am doing what I

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Speaker 1: love for a living. But there are certain like stories

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Speaker 1: that people tell that I like, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I never did that, Like what's a I don't know

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Speaker 1: And then somebody tries to show you and you're like, no,

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Speaker 1: And you're like, okay, shoot, Like I got to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: and tell me. Right. So when you moved when you

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So this is starting to make

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Speaker 1: and don't take your family with you and kind of

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Speaker 1: figure it out on your own. And like, thankfully, my parents, UM,

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Speaker 1: they're just like good supportive people and it came with me.

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Speaker 1: They're not they're not musical, they're not like they could

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Speaker 1: especially when you're putting yourself out there in your music. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean yeah, I definitely feel like I

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Speaker 1: you did an essay for Paper magazine recently that for me,

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Speaker 1: it was one of the most inspiring, inspiring things that

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Speaker 1: I've personally read in a long time for women about

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Speaker 1: being a bad bit. But what I loved was it

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Speaker 1: bad bit, let's talk about that, because it's very clearly

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Speaker 1: But your essay was so amazing because you talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about a different kind of bad bitch, and so

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Speaker 1: I want to talk through a little bit of that. Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you like if I just said to you,

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Speaker 1: what is a bad bit? What would your definition be? My? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not UM. That's just one of the things about

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Speaker 1: So for me, being a bad bitch, being a sensitive

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Speaker 1: bad bitch means like being able to like come on

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Speaker 1: your podcast and first and foremost say yo, I cry

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Speaker 1: a tone. Also like I I like I go through

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Speaker 1: stuff like I I hurt when I go through a breakup.

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Speaker 1: or I deal with insecurities every day when it comes

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Speaker 1: to my job, my personal life when I look in

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Speaker 1: like you can wear you're insecurities with confidence, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I love that because the first definition you gave, I mean,

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Speaker 1: But that's not every day, right, and so when you

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like even I love that. Kind of

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Speaker 1: the trend that everybody seems sort of caught onto today

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Speaker 1: like even self love, can start to feel like it

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Speaker 1: blueprints of social media? Are idols or the world? Screw

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Speaker 1: the world? What are you passionate about? What feels bigger

427
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: than all of that stuff and makes you feel like

428
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Speaker 1: you find that ship out and then own it. Oh

429
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Speaker 1: it's not clean and covered in rhyin stones. You say, Oh,

430
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: you don't have it all all the way figured out yet,

431
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Speaker 1: and maybe you still cry a lot. Welcome to the

432
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: journey of the pursuit of confidence and congrat You might

433
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Speaker 1: just be a sensitive bad bitch. I mean that's just

434
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: so true, because it's like every day is not going

435
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Speaker 1: to be this day that we haven't figured out. You know,

436
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I used to think that if I just like got

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00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: on the right map, if I just could, I'll find

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00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: the right guy. Then I would get to this destination

439
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: of knowing myself and owning myself and just really being

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00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: true to myself and a bad bitch, like we're saying.

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Speaker 1: But like the reality is is I have found those

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Speaker 1: times and then I crashed again, and then I'm like,

443
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I gotta figure myself out all over again.

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00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: And like I don't think that that journey ever ends. No,

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Speaker 1: I believe that. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Yeah, I

446
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: hate to break it, but that's something I know. Oh wait, no,

447
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, cool, No, but it's like I love

448
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Speaker 1: that you said, Like I just think if I find

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Speaker 1: this right, do this, and then you find it for

450
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: a sect, and then you lose it because life and

451
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: flows and changes and nothing falls into place immediately, like

452
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: I think realizing that like it starts with you, and

453
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: like you have everything you need inside of you, and

454
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: like external circumstances like can only give or take away

455
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: to what you've got going on already, like they don't

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Speaker 1: make or break you. Um I needed it. I need

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Speaker 1: to hear that just now. Actually, as I said, yeah,

458
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: you're like preaching to somebody and you're like, oh, this

459
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: is for me, I should listen to myself. Um, but

460
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: it's like it it starts with you, and I literally

461
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Speaker 1: like I've spent all of quarantine basically writing an entire

462
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Speaker 1: album about that, because when, um, when all you can

463
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: do is sitting in your house, you kind of realize

464
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: how it all just comes back to you and starts

465
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Speaker 1: with you. And like the idea for basically, like most

466
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Speaker 1: of the songs I'm about to release kind of stemmed

467
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Speaker 1: from a breakup that I went through like a whole

468
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: It was like a whole situation ship like where are

469
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: we official? Are we not? Like oh you love me?

470
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know that and now like you left the

471
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: state type of thing, like all of that back and forth.

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00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: It stemmed from a relationship that like I put too

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00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: much weight into. But then all the songs that came

474
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: out of it, they they relate to what I went

475
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: through involving this person, but they're all about me processing

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Speaker 1: and like learning all the different lessons I needed to

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Speaker 1: learn about, like what like why I'm actually okay, Like

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Speaker 1: oh wait, no, I I have what I need to

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Speaker 1: get through this okay, and acknowledging like Okay, this hurts,

480
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: like Okay, this sucks. Okay, this was complicated, but oh shit,

481
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: like I just figured this out, Like, oh I'm gonna

482
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: be okay, and oh I just figured this out, I'm

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Speaker 1: even more okay. It's just it's just finding that finding

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Speaker 1: that in yourself guard like and feeling the feelings of

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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: the circumstances or the losing the things and whatever, but

486
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: comes back to you. Yeah, And I just I love

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Speaker 1: that when you say all this stuff because to me,

488
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: this is what life's about. Right. It's like, I again,

489
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: I put so much weight in relationships like what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, or I put so much weight in getting

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Speaker 1: a certain to a certain place in my career, and

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Speaker 1: I've gotten to a lot of those places. I've been

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Speaker 1: in a lot of amazing relationships, and then if things

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00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: fall apart or you know, life happens, it can feel

495
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: like such a failure. Which I do think it's important

496
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Speaker 1: to feel those feelings. But as you're saying, it gets

497
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: us to the next place, right, Like it always is

498
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: opening some sort of door on our journey if we're

499
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: willing to live in a place of acceptance and surrender

500
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: and just kind of lean into that. Yeah, and dude,

501
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: how good does it feel when you get out of

502
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: that relationship that you thought you couldn't live without and

503
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: you're fine. Yeah, you have that light bulb moment. You

504
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: cried for a couple of weeks, but there's that lightful

505
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: moment where you're like, holy sh it, I'm okay right now,

506
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm okay. Like I I literally experienced

507
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: that for the first time a year half ago, um

508
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: and it was like, I have been very much the

509
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Speaker 1: kind of person that just jumps from relationship to relationship,

510
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: and that's how I became okay afterwards. It wasn't like, oh,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm okay because of me. And this was the first

512
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Speaker 1: time I I was like, oh I'm alone and I'm good,

513
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm better than I was in that relationship. And

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00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: I was like such a high for me, Like it

515
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: was intoxicating, the feeling of like, oh my goodness, I'm

516
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm good with just me, like I like me, I

517
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: like what I'm doing. I'm not looking to anyone else

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00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: for approval. It's a good freedom, is that for anyone?

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00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: For anyone that doesn't, it's scared to get out of

520
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: a bad relationship because they think they might not be

521
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: okay afterwards. Like, I promise you'll be okay, I promise

522
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: you'll be good. If you're not happy right now, you'll

523
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: be happier without the thing that's making you miseraful, Yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 1: And like the thing that I'm realizing too again, I

525
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: keeping like I feel like I'm so doing the like

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00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: old person thing to you. I'm like, well, when you

527
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: get to my age, But it's like this is sort

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Speaker 1: of Um. The thing that I've realized even lately is

529
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Speaker 1: no matter if you get in the relationship, or you

530
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: stay in the relationship or you get out, the most

531
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: important thing is still the relationship with yourself always, no

532
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: matter what life looks like, the relationship with yourself is

533
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Speaker 1: the one that's going to be your biggest guide, and

534
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: your biggest success is going to come from the the

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Speaker 1: success of your relationship with yourself. Amen. Um. Yeah, let's

536
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the new music though, and

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00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: I do want to talk a little bit about relationships

538
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: because I love talking about dating in relationships, but the

539
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: right now, like I mean, I do a whole podcast

540
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: on yeah exactly. That's like a half of this podcast

541
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: is about dating and relationships and sex. And it's also

542
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: important to me, and it's so fun to talk about.

543
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: It's something everyone can relate to. But um, I did

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00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of the new new music, which

545
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I love because I'm such an R and B five

546
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: person and I was expecting country from you and this

547
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: is so different. So tell us about yes, well, tell

548
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: us about that. Tell us about the transition from where

549
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: you were musically to where you are now. Yeah, I

550
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: mean the transition from I released like two country music

551
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: projects when I moved to Nashville. I thought I was

552
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Speaker 1: going to country music for the rest of my life.

553
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I moved when I was seventeen. I'm

554
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: twenty two now, which in feels like it's been five minutes,

555
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: but it also has been feels like five years because

556
00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: it has been. Um and like, the transition from country

557
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: to this like top R and B sound that I'm

558
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: going into now was just like the natural transition of

559
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: me kind of coming into my own as a person.

560
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Like the timing for me growing personally really matched up

561
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: with me growing stylistically with my music. It was just

562
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: me discovering kind of and I can I changed all

563
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: all the time. Everybody does. Like your music taste changes

564
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: as you get older and whatever. And like when when

565
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: I was fifteen, I wanted to be Taylor Swift. Yeah,

566
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: that was like and I all I had to learn

567
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: and grow as an artist was the templates of my

568
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: favorite artist. What did they do? What did they sound like? Like?

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Speaker 1: That's how I learned what my sound was going to

570
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: be was by just like copying all the artists that

571
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: I liked and then taking the parts of it that

572
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: felt the most like me. So I was trying to

573
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Speaker 1: be Taylor Swift when I moved to Nashville, and then

574
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: I heard other sounds that I enjoyed, and I I

575
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: got back in touch with. Like my mom is a

576
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: huge nineties R and V fan, and so when I

577
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: was really young, like I grew up to listening to that.

578
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: UM and so all these different genres have always been

579
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: in me, and I kind of I really connect with

580
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: that part of me, and it just had it just happened.

581
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the things I was writing about became

582
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: a bit more mature, and I feel R and B

583
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: has such a like like a grown and sexy feel

584
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: to it at its core. UM and So I just

585
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: really related to those sonics. And then I mean pop

586
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: pop music is everything it's whatever is popular. So I

587
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: under that title, I can marry any sound that I

588
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: want into the core of what my music is, which

589
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: is still just personal lyrics and storytelling, which is the

590
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: peace of country that I'll always carry with me. It's

591
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: why I'm in Nashville. Yeah, I love that because I

592
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: didn't think about the that mean, that is so true

593
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: about country music, the storytelling, and you hear people say

594
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: that a lot, but I didn't think about even being

595
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: able to do that within an R and B type feel.

596
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: That's a really good way to put it. Yeah, yeah,

597
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: and like, oh no, sorry, the fun of the phone call,

598
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: I can't see each other? Uh, I forgot. Well, let's

599
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about play with me, because I

600
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: totally got this vibe of you just calling out guys

601
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: for just being like you're like, we're not doing this

602
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: like whole fun Boy situation. So I want to know

603
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: kind of like what has your relationship history, like, what

604
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: is it looked like? What have you been like in

605
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: relationships in your past? Well, it's like I said, in

606
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: the past, I'm not proud of it, but we own

607
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: our ship here. I was very like I mean up

608
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: until my last like real breakup. I would say, like

609
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: I had been single since I was like twelve, and

610
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I will and like I think it my core, like

611
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm a relationship yeah girl, Like I've I've really enjoyed

612
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: like the last year that I've spent being like actually

613
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: single and dating around, Like, oh my gosh, You've learned

614
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: so much about yourself, like the same way you learn

615
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: about yourself through different relationships. Um. So I went from

616
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: relationship to relationship, and my kind of go to for

617
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: the pain of a breakup was just fall in love

618
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: with somebody else, like I can you know, I really

619
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: know how to see the best in people, so that

620
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, the first decent what can do that comes

621
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Speaker 1: to like, oh you can be my band, aid, I

622
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: can find good qualities in you sick. Um. So that

623
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: was my that would be my pattern. I think everybody

624
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: has some kind of pattern. And that was fine. Um.

625
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: But then kind of the last all of nineteen, I

626
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: was like single, single for the first time, and I

627
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,959
Speaker 1: encountered some foot boys for the first time. But like

628
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: to be fair, I was kind of being a fun

629
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: girl too, like I you know, I had my label

630
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, oh my god, I am

631
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: okay with that this person that I was dating, like

632
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm better, Like I'm that bitch. Like I kind of

633
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: had this epiphany and then I realized, like, oh, other

634
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: people are like might want to date me. That's cool. Um,

635
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: so I was you know, I was playing the field.

636
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: So no harm feelings to anybody should I encountered in

637
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: that time. Um, but I wrote the song play with Me, uh,

638
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: because because I got a U up text? Oh god, no,

639
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: oh yes, yeah, everybody's gotten texting. I'm sure it was.

640
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: And it was like a freaking I don't know, it

641
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: was a dude I was talking to like casually, it

642
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: was whatever. But like that wasn't that, that wasn't the

643
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: space that I was in in that situation. And it

644
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: was like ten thirty on a Wednesday or something, and

645
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: like he hadn't texted me back for like two three days,

646
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm kind of at this place in my

647
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: life where it's like if I text you once and

648
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: you don't text you back, and I I don't have anything

649
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: important I'm trying to reach you for, like I'm not

650
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna be hitting you up. So sen in one text

651
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: he didn't reply, I'm like whatever, I guess this is done. Fine, Um,

652
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: but then I get this you up text and it's

653
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: like ten thirty and I'm just kind of like, really,

654
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: this is real. They're really people like this, Like come on, dude,

655
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Like just just like at least try and hide it

656
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, just yeah, just the latant

657
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: like I've I don't really respect you. It was kind

658
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: of the vibe just based on what the whole relationship was. Um,

659
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: instead of replying, I just picked up my guitar and

660
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I started writing play with me, and it was kind

661
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: of I pulled from They're similar scenarios I encountered and

662
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: an X that kept hitting me up, which is where

663
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: the line man, I swear you've got a radar that

664
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: goes off when I start moving on they do? Right?

665
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Why is that? Like they just feel the energy? It's insane,

666
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: Like they don't. They don't. They're cool. They're cool with

667
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: the separation until they feel you getting a little closer

668
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: to somebody else and then they're like, oh, can of

669
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: that time then coming back to scramble your brain a

670
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: little bit. So that was I was dealing with that

671
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: as well. So good. Um, So if that was how

672
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: your relationships were in the past or maybe through this

673
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: last season. What are you thinking, you know, when maybe

674
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: this COVID stuff is over and you get back to

675
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: fully dating in a normal way, how do you want

676
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: to date moving forward as this sensitive bad bitch that

677
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: you are? Well after you know, all this ship I

678
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: talked about being single, I you're not, are you well?

679
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: I always tell you about twenty nineteen. Okay, the truth

680
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: comes out. I love this. Okay. I met somebody like

681
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: right before quarantine started. Okay, okay, tell us everything. It's

682
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: just super healthy. Like it's just I don't I've carried

683
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: for the first time. I feel like I was kind

684
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: of able to carry that vibe of like, you know,

685
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really going to be okay without this relationship,

686
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: but I want this one in my life. So as

687
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: long as it feels that way, I'm gonna be in it.

688
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: And you know, if it doesn't, I'm autie and like

689
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm cool. Like that's the lesson I learned, um, And

690
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: that's probably why it's like healthy, because like we that

691
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: was my vibe when we met, and it was right.

692
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: It was kind of like I came to the point

693
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: over like the my kind of year of being single

694
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: and dating around I was. It became very clear to me,

695
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: and like I said out loud multiple times to friends

696
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: and family, I was like, I'm absolutely cool to be

697
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: in a relationship, Like I love being in a relationship,

698
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: but if it doesn't like actually feel right, Like if

699
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: there's any like shred of me that feels like okay,

700
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: this person like isn't isn't the one, like this probably

701
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: isn't ana end well, but like it feels good in

702
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: the moment, Like if there's any of that, like, then

703
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm not going to fully commit to somebody.

704
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fully commit to somebody until I

705
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: feel like good about it in the beginning. Like obviously,

706
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: things like life happens and relationships aren't easy add percent

707
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: of the time. But I'm like, I'm freaking twenty two,

708
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Like why why do I need to throw myself into

709
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: these relationships? But also at any cage, why do you

710
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: need to throw yourself into relationship that feels like settling

711
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: on any level? So, like I talked all this ship

712
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: about that, I'm like I'm good being single, Like I'm

713
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: like that's my vibe, Like it's I was like, it's

714
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot. It's really going to take like

715
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: somebody who like just feels right and checks all these

716
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: boxes for me. And then in walks my current boyfriend

717
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, well, I really don't

718
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: see any issues here, and I still don't. So great,

719
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: that's why we're here. But I'm still singing about those

720
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, the single times and the the I Got

721
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Me type of energy. You know. Well, it's still like

722
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: what I was saying. It's like, now you're in this relationship,

723
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: but you're operating still in the place of having such

724
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: a strong relationship with yourself and such at understanding of

725
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: yourself that look, I mean, you're saying this relationship is healthy,

726
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: but isn't that how it works? Which is crazy? Yeah,

727
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: you can How can you have a healthy relationship anywhere

728
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: else if you don't have a healthy relationship with yourself.

729
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: It's so cliche, But like, I mean, it's exactly and

730
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: it's what everyone says, and it's the most annoying thing

731
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: when you're not in that place to hear, because you're

732
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: just like, I just want to meet this guy who's gonna, like, what,

733
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: ride me off on some white horse and save me

734
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But does it work that way?

735
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: And I think any of yourself, yes, save yourself first

736
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: and then like find a hot nice guy to just

737
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: like yeah, exactly like but know that you know that

738
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: you got you. And this is also like the first

739
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: time in a relationship where I haven't really like we've

740
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: been together for a minute and I haven't like posted

741
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: about him or any like. I feel like I used

742
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: to be really into that stuff because it felt like

743
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: I was like proving how good everything was. And I'm like, no,

744
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel I don't feel any pressure to do that.

745
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is good, this is good where

746
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: it's at, Like this is good in my kind of

747
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: little bubble, and like I'm I'm cool to keep it

748
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: that way for and it it feels nice. Yes, I

749
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: love that. Do you feel like you owning all your

750
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: sensitivities and all um kind of the stuff we've talked

751
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: about in the place the headspace that you are with

752
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: yourself have Has that person been accepted in this relationship

753
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: like from your boyfriend? From your boyfriend, does he does

754
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: he accept you and all of your sensitivity all the

755
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: sensitivities that come with you as well? Oh my gosh,

756
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: that Yeah, that's the I've never experienced that before either. Yeah,

757
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: it's that's the biggest thing. I think that's the only

758
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: way that I'm able to even be in this relationship

759
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: or any relationship right now. It's like I literally I

760
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: had a moment the other day where I just was

761
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: crying and I didn't really know exactly why. And like

762
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: I'll have these moments where like a wave of emotion

763
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: will hit me and I won't know why at first.

764
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I'll have to figure out. I be like, Okay, what

765
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: am I working through in my head and heart right now?

766
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: That's coming up at the moment, Like is this stemming

767
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: from an insecurity? Is this stemming from anger? Is it

768
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: just general like overwhelming this from the world, Like what's

769
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: going on? Like I'll need to like take time and

770
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: sit and sort out my own emotions. Yeah, And I was.

771
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I was having one of those moments. I was like

772
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: in the bedroom just like just really in it, just

773
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: really in the trenches with myself alone, like sitting in

774
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: the dark in the corner, very well like but likell

775
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: im just like look at me. Um. I was in

776
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: that and I was I was hating it, Like sometimes

777
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm patient with myself and it's like, Okay, let's figure

778
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: this out. Why are we really feeling this way? Like

779
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: what are we trying to deflect? Like what like what's

780
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: the root of this? But I was having a moment

781
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: where I was just like mad at myself for the

782
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: way that I feel Like I was just like I'm

783
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: sick of this. I just want to feel normal right now,

784
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Like I just want to be smooth sailing, Like I don't.

785
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: I don't like what's coming up right now. I don't.

786
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't like me in this moment. So that was

787
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: adding to the emotion and the frustration. Um. And he

788
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: walked in and I was crying, Um, this isn't the

789
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: first time that's happened. Um And he his first rest

790
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: All I all I've ever wanted all ever go on.

791
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: This is setting the bar. But this is the bare minimum, ladies.

792
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: This is not something to aspire to. This is a requirement.

793
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: But something I hadn't had in a relationship before was

794
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: like somebody who sees that you're hurting or you're crying

795
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: and their first reaction is concerned. It's not defensiveness or

796
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: frustration or like oh here we go again, Like what,

797
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: like what is it now? Like I'd experienced on relationships before,

798
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: whether it was I was frustrated with my partner or

799
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: myself or something going on in my life, like and

800
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: I was showing emotion about it, and their response was

801
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: just to be like, how do we fix this? Like

802
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: how do we get over it? Like like why like

803
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: they were mad at me for being upset with them

804
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: or upset with anything else, and like this man's first

805
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: response is he's just like, oh no, what is it?

806
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: It just like comes to me, like, gives me a hug,

807
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: Like that's the first thing. And I got to tell

808
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: him that in the beginning of the relationship, I was like,

809
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: the first thing I need is a hug, before the questions,

810
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: before anything else, Give me hug. So it gives me

811
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: a hug. And he's just like, what's up? And I'm

812
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: like trying to articulate it, but I don't even know

813
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: why I'm upset yet, And I was just like, Babe,

814
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I hate this about myself right now? I hate it?

815
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: Why am I like this? I don't like it? And

816
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: he looked at me and he was like, you wouldn't

817
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: be you if you weren't like this. He was like,

818
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: this is this part I like, I don't like that

819
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: you're hurting, but this feel like all of those feelings

820
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: like make you who you are, Like they make you

821
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: write great music, they make you they make you connect

822
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: with people. He was like, don't hate that, Like, don't

823
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: you dare hate that about you? Like I love that

824
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: about you. And it was just it was a good moment.

825
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: I cried for like ten more minutes. But I was like,

826
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the in the moments when

827
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm not accepting myself. He does accept those parts of me,

828
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: and that's like real important, real good. Well that's the

829
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: point of a relationship, right They hold you up when

830
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: you can't hold yourself up. Sometimes do the same for them.

831
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: I love that. So I love that mentality and I

832
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: love that you just said, Hey, ladies, this is this

833
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: is like not the biggest thing ever. This is like

834
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: just a small foundational thing that was like super important,

835
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: bare minimum. So what would you say to you, like

836
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: a young girl if you if she was walking through

837
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: dating all these fun boys and you're watching this, like,

838
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: what would you say is an important thing for young

839
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: girls to remember when they're dating? I would say, first

840
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: of all, like, be honest with yourself, about what you

841
00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: want in a relationship. I see people my age entering

842
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: into like like hookups and casually dating and all of this,

843
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: and it's tearing them apart because like what they really

844
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: want is like a serious relationship and they're not built

845
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: for that. And then I on the flip side, I

846
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: see people getting into relationships because they feel like they're

847
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be in a relationship when they really just

848
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: need some time to find themselves. And then they end

849
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: up stepping out on the relationship or not taking it

850
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: seriously enough because what they really want or what they

851
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: should be doing is like getting out there meeting more people.

852
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: Like there's no like right or wrong way to do it,

853
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: just like figure out what you want. And then like

854
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: it's this is the super cliche advice, but it's staid

855
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: for a reason, Like don't don't settle like you have

856
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: at any point in your life. You have zero reason

857
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: to settle, because if you're settling, you're gonna like you're

858
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy because you're something's gonna be missing.

859
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: So being without somebody is way better than being with somebody,

860
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: just to just to be with somebody, Yeah, I agree. Uh,

861
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about what you're excited about moving forward. I mean,

862
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I know with all this COVID stuff, a lot of

863
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: musicians have just been at home, like you were saying,

864
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: even writing a lot. Is there anything that you are

865
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: doing that you are just super excited about coming up

866
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: music wise or like in my daily life because like Leo, okay,

867
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: that's been like my quarantine routine and it makes me

868
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: feel very excited daily. Um. Music wise, h I I'm

869
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: getting ready to release an entire project, like a whole

870
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: a whole album. Basically it's nine songs. Um, we're going

871
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: to start I think I'm allowed to say this. We're

872
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: going to start releasing one song every single month in

873
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: December and then yeah, I'm excited that's going to lead

874
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: to the entire project. And Um, the project is called

875
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: fresh Start. And the first single off that project that

876
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna put out is called fresh Start as well.

877
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: And it it kind of chronicles like all of all

878
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: of these dating patterns and the things that I've learned

879
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: from it that I just spilt my guts see you

880
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: about just now, um, and it it all it all

881
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: comes back to basically, how you have everything you need

882
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: inside of you, UM to create a fresh start. It's not.

883
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: You don't need to you don't need to wait for

884
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: anybody else. You don't need to get through a certain

885
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: season like you can. You can. You can start fresh,

886
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: You can become new, You can become the person that

887
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: you want to be all on your own. You have

888
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: everything you need. You don't need the things that people

889
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: are trying to sell to you to to make make

890
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: you a bad bitch. Yes, I love that, I think,

891
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: especially right now collectively, we have all hit a huge wall.

892
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I know in my world just it feels like things

893
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: have part this past year, and I know so many

894
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: of my friends are feeling that too, And I keep

895
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: wanting this moment that's like okay, no, we're back on

896
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: the right path. And then you know, some other ship

897
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: happens and you're like, here we go again. And I

898
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: really think that what you just said is exactly right

899
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: where it's like no, no, you can do it still.

900
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: Right now, this is the time to look inwards and

901
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: really get quiet with yourself and kind of figure out

902
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: what you do want moving forward. Yes, And that's a man,

903
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: that's actually such a powerful sentence you just said, which

904
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: you can do it still, Yes, you can do it.

905
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Still like you like, external circumstances are actually probably never

906
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: going to be exactly perfect. I think there's a lot

907
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: of people right now, myself included, that use COVID in

908
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: the state of the world does an excuse to not

909
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: get to the next place that they want to be

910
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: in life for view themselves the way that they would

911
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: like to view themselves. Again, myself included. But like, if

912
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: I think about it, I'm like I had, I had

913
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: different excuses before COVID happened. Right, You'll always want something, right, Yeah,

914
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: if you're scared or you're you know, you you feel

915
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: like you're not in a good place because the world

916
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: tells you you need this, this and this before you

917
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: can be confident, or you can be single, or you

918
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: can get the job you want or make the money

919
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know. Um, you you can. You

920
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: can do it still. I love that. Yeah, you can

921
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: do it still, Bailey. I'm a huge fan. Thank you

922
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: so much for talking with us today. I love the music.

923
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Tell people where they can find you so they can

924
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: keep up with all of this releasing and just find

925
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: some of this music. Yes, well, thank you all for

926
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: having me on here. I just wanna give a little

927
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: disclaimer for everybody that I'm not an expert on any

928
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: of the things I was ranching about. I just had

929
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: this moment. Oh my god, maybe it's the exposure shame

930
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: you're trying. I just had this moment like playing like

931
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: thinking about like, oh my god, how long did I

932
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: talk about that? I have no idea what I'm talking from.

933
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Do you know what's so great? Yes? And you know

934
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: what's so great is that at the beginning of this

935
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: podcast you said I don't know any of this stuff.

936
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm like every day figuring stuff out. And that's how

937
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: we all are. Everyone is just figuring it out. Like

938
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: I I love that. I feel that too. I'm like,

939
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert. I never want to be caught

940
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: an expert. But yeah, I think the beauty isn't owning

941
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: that we're all just figuring this out. I appreciate that. Yes, yes, yep,

942
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: that's what I would So thank you for figuring out

943
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: with us today. Yes that was that was this everything

944
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: that just happened. But my my Instagram, my Twitter, my

945
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: TikTok or failing my own you can be a I

946
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: L E Y M y O w N. Yes, my

947
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: own is my middle name, Um, is it really? Yes?

948
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: And I thought this was like some sort of self

949
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: love thing. You were everybody. Everybody did know it just

950
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: it's appropriate. My mom's middle name is my own sunshine Wow.

951
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: So she gave me. She just gave me like one

952
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: half because she felt that the whole thing was a

953
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: bit aggressive. I liked it. I have a tattoo that

954
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: says my mom. I really lean into it. But yeah,

955
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: that's Instagram, Twitter, seaking, TikTok Bailey my own. And then

956
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: you can just look up Bailey Brian on any streaming platforms,

957
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Bailey Brian music on Facebook and YouTube U and I'll

958
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: come up. If you find any music that's from like

959
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen or earlier, you're going to find country Bailey.

960
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: And if you find any music that's after that, you're

961
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: going to find current pop R and B. You know,

962
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: it's all moods. It's like whatever kind of sense of

963
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: bad bits you're feeling like that day. If you can

964
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: do the R and B, you could do the pop.

965
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: If you're like Cornfield bad bitch I, if you're if

966
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: you're like dance Club, bad bitch I got well, Vailey,

967
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. I thoroughly enjoyed it,

968
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: and I love the sensitive babbage thing. I hope that

969
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: you're making tons of merch because I'll buy all of it. Yes,

970
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll send you a little care package. Well,

971
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: I feel like you you are a prime example of

972
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: a sensitive bad bitch, and I really appreciate you having

973
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: me on. Well, thank you for being here, and thank

974
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: you guys for listening.