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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, It's a Herd.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington Jonas knocks in for Colin.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: You normally hear LaVar and I alongside Brady Quinn weekday morning,

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Speaker 3: six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific on something called

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Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, which you can

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Speaker 3: hear on many of these Fox Sports Radio affiliates. But

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Speaker 3: a couple of things have changed. One, we're in this

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Speaker 3: time slot to Brady Quinn's not with us, and so whoa,

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Speaker 3: it's sure that's clear, well not with us today.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't do anything to Brady Quinn, So y'all

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Speaker 5: stop writing in his mother loved what did LeVar do

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Speaker 5: to him? Like like what like I'm going to be

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Speaker 5: volid towards him. Y'all need to stop that man. But

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Speaker 5: if Q hasn't made it a point to tell y'all

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Speaker 5: why he's not on hair, right, that's not on me

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Speaker 5: or Jonas you take that up with him, Hey, dad

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Speaker 5: man walking.

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Speaker 3: You hit him with that. But Brady's out with us today.

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Speaker 3: So when it's just LeVar and I, we do something

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Speaker 3: called black and draft. I'm black, yeah, and I'm very pale,

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Speaker 3: and uh he's draft. LeVar thinks I look like draft Empire. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So with that said, we are we're off and running here.

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Speaker 3: In hour three of the program, we opened up the

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Speaker 3: show talking about the decision by the Los Angeles Lakers. Well,

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Speaker 3: first we started off with a positive note. Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 3: gets strike out three thousand. Congratulations. It looked a looked

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Speaker 3: a little suspect there for a while. He was getting

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Speaker 3: lit up early, and then he ended up finding his

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Speaker 3: on the one hundredth pitch. He ended up throwing his

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Speaker 3: three thousandth strikeout, and the Dodgers came back to beat

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Speaker 3: the White Sox, who are awful. Came back to beat

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Speaker 3: the White Sox on a Freddie Freeman walk off in

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Speaker 3: the ninth So an amazing night at Dodger Stadium. Also,

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Speaker 3: Max Munsey was injured on a slide, so that not great.

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Speaker 3: And now we see what that could do for the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. So kind of a wild night

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Speaker 3: at Dodger Stadium, ball and all, a historic night for

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Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw and then apparently a historic night for the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Lakers, who are all of a sudden NBA

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Speaker 3: title contenders again because DeAndre Ayton. Because DeAndre Ayton means

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Speaker 3: of the National Basketball Association because they went out and

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Speaker 3: signed DeAndre Ayton and Louck. I'm just saying, I feel

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Speaker 3: experience to know not exactly what everybody expected when he

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Speaker 3: was taking number one over all in the draft. But

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Speaker 3: apparently for the Lakers this might make a lot of

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Speaker 3: sense for them, and at least it's an upgrade. I'm

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Speaker 3: in front of him. It's a fair conclusion to come to.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair assessment to have.

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Speaker 5: But nonetheless, the LA Lakers need help on the interior

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Speaker 5: what is it?

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Speaker 5: DeAndre he he. I think he feels that that void.

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Speaker 5: I really do. He has elite big ability. He could

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Speaker 5: the things that I've heard about players in Portland, like

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Speaker 3: Whose buddy that I just went to Milwaukee Bucks was

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Speaker 5: Right, we just heard about how that kind of went

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Speaker 5: it's also a great opportunity for the LA Lakers to

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Speaker 5: continue what would perceivably be moves that make them stronger

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, pick a side show, any side show, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, the New York Knicks hiring Mike Brown

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Speaker 3: like the hiring of Mike Brown, But why did it

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Speaker 3: they just couldn't help themselves. They had to turn it

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Speaker 3: to scratch the itch. It turned into what it turned into.

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Speaker 3: They were rejected as they tried to interview everybody wasn't

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Speaker 5: There was a moment in time where they were going

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Speaker 3: Who was after her, Douce Staley. I'm just like, what

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Speaker 5: In terms of optics? What do you in terms of

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Speaker 5: think that would have been received? And let's just say,

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Speaker 5: for the sake of saying, they ended up hiring Don

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Speaker 5: translate two men? And that would would be my Like,

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Speaker 5: nobody has a problem when there's a male coach coaching

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Speaker 3: I just like they're trying to spin it as well.

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Speaker 3: We gave a very thorough effort and looking at and

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Speaker 3: that's crazy, that's what they said. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: we were we were thorough about the entire process. Like, no,

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Speaker 3: you were looking to grab headlines. Let's just let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: You were looking to grab headlines. Otherwise, Mike Mike Brown

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Speaker 3: was the only guy that interviewed multiple times, the only one,

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Speaker 3: Like everything was a headline grabbing Like Don Staley, you

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Speaker 3: had all the other names that came out of Jay

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Speaker 3: Danny Hurley's name was starting, like all of these names

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Speaker 3: It was never gonna happen. Like they just wanted to

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Speaker 3: they're at least past all that, then you see them

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Speaker 3: it's still the Nickel and Dime Nicks. Okay, at least

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Speaker 3: now we know, all right, at least now we know.

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Speaker 3: Like for a second there, you thought that they were

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh, yeah, same ol Nicks, Nickel and Dime.

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Speaker 5: I think the Don Stay conversation is an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 5: one of the show is the idea that Mike Brown

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Speaker 5: you know, be in a different market could possibly take

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Speaker 5: meaning that it doesn't seem like he has any intentions

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Speaker 5: of not playing in next season. Mike Brown coached him

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Speaker 5: They didn't win it all, but they got very close

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Speaker 5: the legend because I can't. I can't take it as

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Speaker 5: the next domino to fall coming to New York and

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Speaker 5: I think they realized that they were probably one player

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Speaker 5: Lebron James the next Domino in line to fall to

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Speaker 5: end up as a New York Knick. What if the

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Speaker 5: I think there's two ways of looking at the Bronni

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Speaker 5: James situation. And you gave an interesting plot twist and

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Speaker 5: with JJ Reddick, I do believe that that Lebron James

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Speaker 5: people want to say he didn't or he did. Whether

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Speaker 5: They got JJ Reddick, and I believe that Lebron James's

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Speaker 5: maintained his position. If they can ensure Lebron James that

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Speaker 5: Bronnie is okay as a as an LA Laker, then

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Speaker 5: I don't think he would have an issue. I don't

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Speaker 5: think he would have an issue with leaving Bronnie behind

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that would be a deal breaker

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Speaker 7: So like they read the only reason either of those

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Speaker 7: teams would hesitate on paying them as age, right, And

434
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Speaker 7: you're looking at both those guys that are on the

435
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Speaker 7: wrong side of thirty, and it's not do I think

436
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Speaker 7: you can play for me this year, It's like, what

437
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Speaker 7: is this going to look like two years from now?

438
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Speaker 7: So look, I think in both ca it would take

439
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Speaker 7: the team because I don't think like the contract issue

440
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Speaker 7: is going to go away if you trade those guys.

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Speaker 3: So that was Albert Breer talking about the possibility of

442
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Speaker 3: a McLaurin for wat trade that was thrown out earlier.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, and he mentioned, you know, with the

444
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Speaker 3: Steelers approach this offseason, and we've talked about it on

445
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Speaker 3: our show that whatever you think of the Steelers and

446
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Speaker 3: the Steelers legacy and the Steelers history and all that,

447
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Speaker 3: it's been a long ass time since they won a

448
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Speaker 3: playoff game. Long time, and I think that there was

449
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Speaker 3: this feeling that they keep trying to roll out the

450
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Speaker 3: same plan and it doesn't work. They tried to draft.

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Speaker 5: Work well, but because they don't lose, yeah, but it

452
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Speaker 5: does don't win, yes, And I think so, and so

453
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Speaker 5: for that fan base, they're looking at it going cool,

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Speaker 5: but that's not what this is here.

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Speaker 3: Like here we expect more. Like if you can do

456
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Speaker 3: that in Cincinnati or you can do that elsewhere, here,

457
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Speaker 3: we expect more. And so I guess you have to

458
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Speaker 3: give the Steelers some credit and Omar Conton some credit

459
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Speaker 3: for this. It has looked different this offseason. We've never

460
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Speaker 3: seen them been aggressively. They usually spend the money on

461
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Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball and their own guys

462
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Speaker 3: and well that too to a certain degree, but they will.

463
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Speaker 3: They went for the offense this year. They went offensively

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Speaker 3: this year and that's showing I think again, where they're

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Speaker 3: at right now.

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Speaker 5: This is a team that wins. They win the regular season,

467
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Speaker 5: they make it to the playoffs, and then they don't win.

468
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Speaker 5: That has been the Steelers store for most NFL franchises

469
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Speaker 5: would love to be in the situation that the Steelers

470
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Speaker 5: are in because they keep their fans in captivity, meaning

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Speaker 5: we're not necessarily going to give you a Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: or even a Super Bowl run, but we're going to

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Speaker 5: keep you interested enough because we're winning and we're going

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Speaker 5: to make it to the playoffs, and so that gives

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Speaker 5: us at least a lag up in terms of keeping

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Speaker 5: the interest level there, which I will say as a

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Speaker 5: historical Steelers fan, Chuck No did that for the whole

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Speaker 5: entire last half of his career. Bill Coward did it

479
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Speaker 5: for his entire career until the end. Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 5: the only one that came in guns of blazing and now,

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Speaker 5: oh well, hold on, let's let's let's rewind here. Chuck

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Speaker 5: No didn't come in guns of blazing, but definitely got

483
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Speaker 5: it popping early in his year. In his years when

484
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Speaker 5: he got all them Super Bowls with the Steel Curtain

485
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Speaker 5: and brads on all those guys, and then the rest

486
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Speaker 5: of the way, it was he had some very very

487
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Speaker 5: good teams and they underperformed Bill Coward. Bill Coward gets

488
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Speaker 5: in and it took him a while and he finally

489
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Speaker 5: got his one right. Tomlin started off much like how

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Speaker 5: Chuck No did. A man did very well, got got

491
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Speaker 5: a super Bowl out of it too, right, two super Bowls.

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Speaker 5: One he got won super Bowl, and in doing so

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Speaker 5: he created a standard and that standard was with a

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Speaker 5: group of guys that he inherited. So now we are

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Speaker 5: all the way into what Mike Tomlin's teams looks like

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Speaker 5: with the GM that he's working with. And it hasn't

497
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Speaker 5: been good enough to get to that Super Bowl, but

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Speaker 5: it hasn't been bad enough to say they're too far

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Speaker 5: away from being competitive for Super Bowl to start over?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to know how long it's been since

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Speaker 3: the Steelers won a Super Bowl? John Madden was on

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Speaker 3: the call for that game. I mean a long time,

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 5: I was still James, I believe I was. I still playing.

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Speaker 5: I think I was still playing. What was that that

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Speaker 5: my thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: Now that might have been right after it was two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eight ish.

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Speaker 5: Two thousand and eight. Yeah, yeah, it was against Arizona, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

510
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Speaker 5: I had just opened a restaurant that's what it was.

511
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Speaker 5: I had just opened a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long time man. So I think the

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Speaker 3: fact that they have gotten so aggressive because they've got

514
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Speaker 3: to be looking around, seeing what Baltimore's got and realizing

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Speaker 3: that's a problem. For as long as Lamar Jackson's there,

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Speaker 3: that's a problem Cincinnati. If they could just you know,

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Speaker 3: not Nickel and Diamond themselves and figure out how to

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Speaker 3: pay guys, especially on the defensive side, that could also

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Speaker 3: be a problem. And then you just got the Browns,

520
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Speaker 3: which are just the Browns. But you look in the

521
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Speaker 3: AFC man Mahomes and Josh Allen and all that, there's

522
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Speaker 3: so many things obstacles in their way and they've been

523
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Speaker 3: struggling to find it. It's almost like Bill Cower finally

524
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Speaker 3: got his quarterback at the end of his career and

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Speaker 3: that's when they won. Mike Tomlin inherited the quarterback and

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Speaker 3: that's when he won, and since then they've been trying

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Speaker 3: to figure it out at that position. Yeah, and for

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Speaker 3: what is.

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Speaker 5: Because that's a great point for what is worth Jonas

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Speaker 5: when you look at this Pittsburgh Steelers team and the

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Speaker 5: things they've been able to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: If you're an avid sports.

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Speaker 5: Fan and you're saying, I'm bringing in Aaron Rodgers, and

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Speaker 5: while he may be older, he is one of the

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Speaker 5: most accomplished, one of the most talented football players that

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Speaker 5: we have ever seen play this game. You can't get

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Speaker 5: you can't get too much flak for pulling off getting

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers the one to come.

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Speaker 3: Play for you. You just can't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he might be older, but hell, David Copperfield

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Speaker 5: is old. If you want asked, if I want to

542
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Speaker 5: do a magic show and there's some young guys out

543
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Speaker 5: there doing what he's doing, who am I going with.

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Speaker 5: I'm going with David Copperfield. You got that right. So anyway, remember.

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Speaker 3: When he did that thing where he made you touch

546
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Speaker 3: the TV screen and my god, he could protect guy

547
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Speaker 3: so sweet.

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Speaker 5: But it didn't matter how old he was. He was

549
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: coming up with some fly Yang stuff, right. So to me,

550
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Speaker 5: I don't feel like looking at it from the scope

551
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: of you brought in Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey still has

552
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: good football left in him. So you're going to get

553
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Speaker 5: quality from the guys you've brought in. If I'm looking

554
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Speaker 5: at the job that they've done this offseason, I don't

555
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Speaker 5: have a problem with it.

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Speaker 3: You added depth to the tight ends position. That'll go

557
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Speaker 3: a long way.

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Speaker 5: You added Dk Metcalf, You got rid of what was

559
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 5: considered to be a malecontent and pickings in your locker room.

560
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Speaker 5: So you might have fixed your culture and you might

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Speaker 5: have handled bringing in a playmaker or two that's going

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Speaker 5: to change things around. I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 5: You know what I have a problem with. Tell me

564
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Speaker 5: how many times you've seen a team win with mercenaries,

565
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Speaker 5: and that's almost what this is turning into.

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Speaker 3: You have a group.

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Speaker 5: And I know I know this very well because I

568
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 5: was drafted into a mercenary situation two and when I

569
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: came in, they brought in Mark Carrier, they brought in

570
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Speaker 5: Bruce Smith, they brought in Dion Sanders, they brought in

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Speaker 5: Jeff George. I know what mercenary situation looks like. I

572
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: have never seen it work. And maybe there's some people

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Speaker 5: out there that have great, uh investigative skills and can

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Speaker 5: go through the annals and find a team that actually

575
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Speaker 5: in the National Football League had a group of mercenaries

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Speaker 5: that came together and went and won it all. Like

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Speaker 5: in basketball, you can do mercenary stuff. You can get

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Speaker 5: away with mercenary hires. I just have not seen that

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Speaker 5: be be successful in the NFL. H because the last

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Speaker 5: team was the Eagles, like three like three different quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: What was it, Vince Young, Mike Vick and Kevin Cobb

582
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Speaker 5: or was it McNabb that was the starter? Who was

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Speaker 5: who was it? It was three quarterbacks on that team.

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Speaker 5: It might have been McNab. I don't know if it

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Speaker 5: was McNab.

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Speaker 3: It might have been. What it was like three quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: and I know it was eight and eight. That's what

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Speaker 3: I know. They were not very.

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Speaker 5: Good and I mean they called them the dream team

590
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Speaker 5: of football and they did nothing.

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Speaker 3: You just don't see it work what they do. Nothing.

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Speaker 3: Zilch aj fiel aj Peel had some game back then. Yeah. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm just so nice to be represented in that quarterback

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Speaker 3: It makes sense. It makes sense.

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Speaker 5: The moves you can you can justify the moves, but

596
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Speaker 5: can you justify it beyond this season? For one as

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Speaker 5: the Steelers, as as the GM who's just been awarded

598
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Speaker 5: and rewarded. I guess, uh, does it Does it translate

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Speaker 5: beyond this season? And and and honestly if it, if

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Speaker 5: it doesn't, then how are you measuring and how are

601
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Speaker 5: you weighing the weight and the pressure of this year?

602
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Speaker 5: This is if this is truly a win now effort

603
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Speaker 5: and what you're doing, then what if you don't win

604
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Speaker 5: any more than what you've won because winning has been

605
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 5: good enough so far, it's been good enough, but the

606
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Speaker 5: act of winning, they've won so much that it's not enough.

607
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Speaker 5: So if they can't show that they can win at

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Speaker 5: the level they've been winning and also take a definitive

609
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Speaker 5: step forward in the AFC North, as you mentioned with

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, with Lamar Jackson, then what are we talking

611
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Speaker 5: about here? And I think that's ultimately the conversation where

612
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Speaker 5: the conversation will go if Pittsburgh doesn't have a tremendous

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Speaker 5: measure of success in this upcoming season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Atlease sent out the pirates, you know should be

615
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Speaker 3: worse well because you cannot care. Yeah, that's true. It

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Speaker 3: is the Herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 5: I'd appreciate it if you did say we're in for

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Speaker 5: Collin anymore? Please, you know I would appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, appreciate it. You're still in for Colin Coward?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't get enough of that story.

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Speaker 3: be in tomorrow for fourth of July on the Dan

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Speaker 3: Patrick show time slot. So that's the one that precedes

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Speaker 3: this time slot.

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Speaker 5: So some of you guys shoot messages in saying why

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Speaker 5: is levarn Jonas in versus saying where is Brady? I

642
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Speaker 5: mean at Brady Quinn. That's that's his that's his handle,

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Speaker 5: you know, take it up with him. We will actually

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Speaker 5: be in on the fourth of July, you know, before

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Speaker 5: we go see all of the you know, the fireworks

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Speaker 5: and all that stuff. You know you want to come over,

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Speaker 5: you come over. You know you guys are invited. I

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Speaker 5: got a nice little view. Not ju Lee, damned you

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Speaker 5: running uk around here. I don't know you run around

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Speaker 5: my prid. No way right now. It is time for

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Speaker 5: this though.

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Speaker 2: No, no, this is the headline news crime music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, come on one more time.

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Speaker 4: Kids, get some NFL going tom alright, Eagles reigning Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl champs, surprising many who doubted their head coach Nick Sirianni.

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Speaker 4: Colin actually being one of the most loud critics of

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Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni. But they're all pro. Right, tackle Lane Johnson

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Speaker 4: coming to the defense of their head coach. Talking to

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Speaker 4: Pat McAfee explaining what makes the head coach special. He

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Speaker 4: had this to say, you know, when he's gotten emotional

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Speaker 4: on the sidelines or he's streaming at guys, the good

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Speaker 4: thing is we go and talk about it at the

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Speaker 4: next team meeting after the game. I think for him,

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Speaker 4: he's evolved as a head coach. He's kind of learning

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Speaker 4: as he goes. But what I enjoy about coaches, everyone's

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Speaker 4: held accountable. Whether it's in the film room, bad play

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Speaker 4: by a player, bad called by the coach, their name,

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Speaker 4: their number, everyone's held accountable.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if Nick Sirianni was cocky before, no,

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be like now. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: knocked off he knocked off the juggernaut.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he got that one back, the first one we

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Speaker 5: being on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Good for him, man, you know, good for him.

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Speaker 3: Things work out sometimes. I mean the problem is it's Philly,

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Speaker 3: so he could be out in two years. I mean

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Speaker 3: he could be that.

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Speaker 5: Bad races after one week, yeah, one week ago. Believe me,

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Speaker 5: I played at penn State as James Franklin, as Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 5: A state of Pennsylvania. We don't play around about a

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Speaker 5: few things. Our hogies, our wings, our fries on stuff,

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Speaker 5: our mama.

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Speaker 3: And our sports.

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Speaker 2: We all play.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's I mean, look, he was even before

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Speaker 3: they were winning Super Bowls, he was, you know, busting

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Speaker 3: balls and yelling on the sideline until you know, getting

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Speaker 3: into arguments with fans. Now we're using that against him.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can say nothing to him that was.

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Speaker 5: Calling him immature, not not if I heard it correctly

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Speaker 5: from one of the shows around here, not acting as

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Speaker 5: a head coach would act. I don't know which personality

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Speaker 5: was sit it, I don't remember, but his disposition wasn't

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Speaker 5: that suitable of a head coach? Well, I think he

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Speaker 5: has gotten at least for now, he's gotten the last

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Speaker 5: of the lasts for now.

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Speaker 4: To your point, Jonas H, Doug Peterson wins the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and three seasons later he was out, so.

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Speaker 3: Like a fart in the wind. Gone.

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Speaker 5: He did happen to have the eventual m v P

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Speaker 5: and in Super Bowl Chap benched, he was on the bench.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was quite a mistake. There's a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a mistake that it went great in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well, is he still the coach there?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Is worse than that? You actually did it a

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Speaker 3: little bit better? All right?

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Speaker 4: College football, We're anxiously awaiting Bill Belichick's debut on the

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Speaker 4: sidelines of college football with North Carolina. An interesting development

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Speaker 4: for the tar Heels and potentially Belichick's future. Well, the

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Speaker 4: university announced that athletic director Bubba Cunningham will step down

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Speaker 4: from his position and step into a new role. But

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Speaker 4: reporting from CBS Sports on the hiring process of Belichick too,

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Speaker 4: chapel Hill claims Cunningham didn't have Belichick high on his

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Speaker 4: list of candidates to replace Mac Brown, and instead it

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Speaker 4: was John Pryor, the leader of the Board of Trustees,

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Speaker 4: who led the charge to getting Belichick. So perhaps Belichick

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Speaker 4: already seizing a little bit more struggle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, You know what, guy deserves some respect, right,

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of people shaming somebody who was wrongly terminated

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Speaker 3: by Robert Kraft and what happened there in New England.

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Speaker 3: And then he goes out and God forbid he dates

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Speaker 3: a rocket ship in her twenties. Everybody's got a stand

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Speaker 3: in judgment, God forbid. Good for Bill Belichick away from that.

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Speaker 3: Think you think he's gonna you think he's gonna walk

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Speaker 3: a shame at this fourth of July and nantuck it

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Speaker 3: again or no, no, those days are over. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it was a walk of shame then it was.

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Speaker 5: It was. It was a walk of accomplishment. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and none of y'all old fog. He's doing what Bill

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Speaker 5: is doing respect it. It's like that man was not

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Speaker 5: afraid to come out, have dressed with his Taco meet

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Speaker 5: out on his chest.

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Speaker 3: It was feeling good. Did he have a necklace on?

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Speaker 3: It was like the remember when Jermaine Taylor the boxer,

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Speaker 3: when he used to start a fight, he would always

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Speaker 3: kick his feet back likeick.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, and it was either it was either Rose

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Speaker 5: Sparks or it was it was showing I was with him.

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Speaker 3: Something assisted him. But that man put in some warm

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Speaker 3: up and it wasn't a strikeout. What else are you

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Speaker 3: gonna wrap up at this?

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Speaker 4: Brian Windhorse reporting the latest on the Lakers Lebron contract.

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Speaker 3: Stand off.

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Speaker 4: If you will, Lebron opted into his deal, but here's

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Speaker 4: what Windhorse said. Quote the Lakers and Lebron, whoever wants

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Speaker 4: to spend their side of the story. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: what happened, but the Lakers and Lebron did not have

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Speaker 4: substantive discussions about extending his contract. Whichever team Lebron's been

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Speaker 4: on for twenty years now, they've always had conversations about

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Speaker 4: extending his contract.

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Speaker 3: He's leaving, Yeah, he's leaving.

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Speaker 5: It's ring chasing tad like see you in the Big Apple.

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Speaker 3: So rat by the way, didn't you rip on Brian

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Speaker 3: Windhors recently and say they weren't friends and they weren't

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Speaker 3: uh noora shoot your shot, yeah,