WEBVTT - What’s he Done? 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:18.000 I am all in you, I am all in with 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.000 Scott Patterson and I heart Radio podcast. Okay, everybody, Hey 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.720 Scott Patterson, we are back for another episode. Uh and 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.240 we're going to talk about Teach Me tonight. Episode nineteen, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.840 Season two aired April and two. A day that will 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.280 live in infamy, let me tell you, because it is 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:42.120 the staggering debut of a film by Kirk Is it not? 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.839 Is it the first? Is it the premiere? Is it 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.120 the debut? Am I wrong? This is the first times? 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.440 Just absolute genius. Anyway, I am. I am here with 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:58.480 Danielle Romo, Riley Pelusis and uh Amy Sugarman is here. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:04.080 The ball club has gathered. Riley, take us away with 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.720 your synopsis. So today LORIAA gets to pick a film 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.520 for the movie Festival. Luke asked Rory to tutor Jess, 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.679 but during their study night, a car accident and a 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.440 fractured risk leads Luke to making a decision about Jess 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.080 living in stars Hollow. Chris returns to comfort Lorelei and 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.720 Rory and wishes he can stay longer. I'll tell you 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.800 this was this was an emotional roller coaster, wasn't it? 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.920 This thing it got very heavy. I felt. I don't 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.440 want to I'm not I'm not saying this to be 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.200 you know, a jackass, but uh, you know it really 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.760 it started to take on this sort of this element 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.479 of general hospital where you're just like, oh my god. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.520 You know, not that there's anything with that, but it 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:55.400 was it really was kind of shocking. What you mean, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.000 I mean, it was just I mean I was completely engaged. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.760 What can I tell you. I'm sitting on my couch. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.280 It's it's eight pm last night, you know, my boys 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:11.000 asleep and boomp I hit play. It's like what And 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.600 I love the opening. I thought it was really great 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.920 because we get a little Michael Winner's action, you know, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.600 get the Michael Winners magic when we got He's so good, 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.959 He's so great to watch. He really digs in to 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.080 the scene, you know, he really grounds it and just 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.480 like Ohm and he's like the perfect backboard to hit 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.440 the ball off with Lauraa and Rory just hitting the 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.799 ball back and forth. It was it was wonderful and 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.840 we have one of the funniest moments with a film 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.480 by Kurt and and the most dramatic with the fight 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.320 between Luca. More So, it was like whoo and then 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.720 the ass whooping. That's a coming to Jess once Laura 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.359 La gets ahold of him, she's I thought she was 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:50.920 going to run to the bus stop, get on a 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.560 bus and follow him to his mom's house and just 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.799 like dive in the living room window and start ninja in. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.760 You know, when the nun chucks, who's gonna get a 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.200 She's gonna open up a couple of candle woo pass 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.200 on him. Let me tell you that kid, you know, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.080 he's good. Good thing he got out of town. Good 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.680 thing he got out. Because I'm telling you, as a parent, yes, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:19.160 that is your your worst fear realized. And it doesn't 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.240 matter if everybody's okay, and I complete her, her reaction 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.079 is completely justified. I mean because if anyone laid a hand, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.680 I mean on my son, Oh boy, I mean, you 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.040 really need to restrain yourself. Right when when a little 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.240 bullying thing happens from at school and you hear about it, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.120 he tells you about it, it's like, oh boy, you 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.160 know you really have to just kind of like, oh, 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.520 you know, here comes the monster. So um it was, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.680 it was it was all consuming. What did you guys 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:57.200 think there was? I literally I have no words. There 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.720 was so good happening. There was so much happening. I'm like, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.960 Jess and Jess and Rory that that was something else. Um, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.960 Laura Leon Luke, that fight was unbelievably epic. Christopher and 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.800 Lura la at the end, I'm like, oh my god, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.520 then you have Kirk's movie, then you have the movie Night, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.520 you know, like the like the actual interaction between Rory, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.880 Christopher and Laura, Like it was just so good, so 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.480 much happening, so much happening. I want to know what 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:30.640 both of you think about Rory and Jess. Um let me. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.200 He came off a little bit too much of a 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:43.000 punk for me this episode, and I just I felt 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.440 and then I started feeling really bad for him. You know, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.520 the poor kid. He's so troubled and he has no 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.520 he has no port in the storm, you know, and 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.120 he's looking for one, and it's just so tragic to 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:04.200 see this kid, his the wasted potential, the potential of 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.560 his wasted potential on the horizon here, and that if 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.680 he doesn't start making better decisions, you know, these opportunities 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.000 are going to go by the wayside and you don't 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.400 get them back, you don't get a second chance. I mean, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.640 you can really work hard and hustle. If maybe a 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.320 year or two pass you by and then you sort 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.480 of see the light and you start applying yourself, then 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.039 you can recover. But if too much time passes by 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.279 for him, and he just wants to hang out and 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.000 go wherever the wind takes him and and get a 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.279 job here. And he you know, one of these guys, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.320 you know, he's he's looking to be. Uh, what's what's 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.760 the movie the Matt Damon ben Affleck movie that made 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.160 them famous. Yeah, he's looking to be you know, he's 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.599 looking to turn into a little bit of a good 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.240 will hunting their guy. Yeah, And Roy calls him out. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.279 She says, you're you're the smartest kid in school. But 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:55.800 it's that will, that's that he doesn't there's no safety 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.680 for him. He doesn't feel safe anywhere. He doesn't feel 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.800 like he can put himself out there, be social or 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.919 be accepted. Everything to him is negative and dark, and 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.000 he wants to be by himself. And he doesn't understand why. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.039 And if he intellectually understands it, he doesn't emotionally. He 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.800 can't emotionally grasp it. He can't he can't And what 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:19.040 do you attribute that to? Knowing what you know? He 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:24.039 he has no solid base of anybody loving him. He 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.359 doesn't have anybody hugging him or loving him in the 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.640 right way. I mean, he's got Luke, but that's a 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.200 new thing, and that's filled with conflict, right, And I 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.360 don't know that Luke is I don't know if Luke 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.400 is the best person for this. You know, he's trying, 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.520 he's trying, but Luke's very busy. He's got issues of 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.640 his own, right. Um. And then you know, I I 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.680 found out in his meeting with the principle that he 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.880 wasn't the greatest student in the world, which surprised me 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:57.080 a little bit. I didn't think it did the character justice. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.760 And I was correct because the character is very Yeah, 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.760 he so well, right, and so it doesn't mean that 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.080 he's going to do well in school. But metal shop, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.520 you know, I mean not that there's anything wrong with that. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.240 I mean that does takes skills to in dedication and study. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.000 But um, just knowing what we know about Luke and 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:23.440 his knowledge about business and finances and taxes and law 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.040 and all those things in addition to being able to 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.760 build because but you can acquire those skills and acquire 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.080 that knowledge over time. Being in a business, it's not 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:38.080 necessarily academic, right he didn't. He didn't so so maybe 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.920 he didn't know how to study, or he wasn't the 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.840 greatest student. He wasn't engaged, he wasn't interested, he was 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.480 doing other things. Right here, he has head in the clouds. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.560 Who knows what was going on, But it's like it's 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.200 like it seems like the bloodline has you know, the 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.000 Danes blood or something has gotten into Jest a little 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.440 bit obviously, and and he's it's interesting the principle calling 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.080 you miss ordained so much because we don't hear it 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.920 that often in the show. And that was a bit 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.760 and and truly truly pleased to see the legendary Lawrence 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.720 Hilton Jacobs. I mean, I forgot that I got to 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.600 act with him, And isn't he great? Isn't he just superb? 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.160 And I just was I was so pleased. Um, I 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.920 love that scene. But yeah, I think Jess needs something different. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.680 He does need a change of scenery being with Uncle Luke. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.800 I don't think it's well as we see there. It's 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.160 it's just filled with the complications and conflict and how 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.319 did you Scott Slash Luke feel about the low blow 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.960 he said about the diner. Oh, maybe I'll work in 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.240 But that's again, that's a goodwill hunting type of like, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.240 this kid is so smart. He's gonna make you know. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.920 He's gonna look at the painting Robin Williams painting like, oh, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.160 old man, he's losing his oars. He's drifted, sea's lost 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.839 and you know what, And then you find out that 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.560 his wife died of cancer. So it was one of 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.319 those situations where it's like Luke is like, boy, this 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.920 poor kid's really lost. I mean, if he's attacking me, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.000 then that kid is really defensive. He's really nasty. Uh 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.080 and he ain't changing soon. The only thing that's going 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.960 to change him. And I hate to say this now 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.640 that I see this, I hate to say this. He 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.559 needs Rory more than anything, but that he's going to 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:29.240 be bad for Rory because it's gonna take Rory's full 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:35.160 tank of fuel, of her love and her compassion and 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.720 her empathy to get this kid on the right track, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.680 and it's gonna throw her off her track. It's gonna 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.840 pull her foot. What do you think about Luke asking 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.280 Rory for help, and how he did it, and what 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.840 do you think of I think I think I would 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.160 have had the same reaction, like, Mike, don't come around 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.840 to my kids. She's she's focused, she doesn't have time 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.960 for this. I don't want this kid around. He's bad news. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.200 And she was right. She sees the future. She's a mother, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.840 she gets it in her gut, and she's a good 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.360 enough friend to Luke and she's a good enough person 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.000 to allow this, and that's why she was so upset. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.200 She was mainly upset with herself for allowing it, because 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:12.880 she tried to put a stop to her and she 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.920 should have put her foot down. But again, she doesn't 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.600 want to be that. She doesn't want to be that 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.000 woman who stands in the way of her daughter and 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.760 is not a good friend to Luke. And she's part 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.120 of a community. And you know this is helping because 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.559 down the line she's going to ask him for help, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.640 and she's asked. She's going to the well with Luke 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.040 many many times, and he's always there for her and 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.240 he always will be there for her. So I guess 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.559 she feels obligated, of course, but she went a better 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.839 She went against her better instincts and she and there's 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:47.600 no stopping Rory because Rory, like she did she play 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.679 that beautiful? Isn't she just wonderfully nuanced and subtle? And 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.720 again there's there's those eyeballs, there's the cute face, and 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.360 she's just she doesn't do too much because she doesn't 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.600 have to. And you read I read her face so 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.880 easily and so well, she's so good at this and 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.000 and just I don't know, I don't know that she 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.560 came out of any background in acting. I think she 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.520 was in film school and it's kind of remarkable how 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.640 she can do this. So um, And what did you 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.440 think of Milo's performance? Oh? He's great. I mean, he's 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.960 really great when he when when you hate him, when 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.240 you have to hate him. He knows that as an actor, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.600 and you're like, wow, this guy's trouble because that's the 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.040 fine line that he has to walk, right. It's like, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.760 I he trusts the writing so much that he's okay 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.480 getting the direction. Like Milo, you know, I'm sorry, but 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.720 they have to hate you here because we're gonna bring 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.120 you back and to this degree and we're gonna bring 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.640 it back this percentage. And he understands that there's So 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.640 that's what makes it interesting to watch because we know 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.280 there's going to be these peaks and valleys, we know 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.360 there's going to be this range that the actors can play. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.320 So there's all this freedom within the very big range. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.960 So so he's he's And what did you think of 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.640 the scene when Luke finds Jests on the bridge, the 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.120 infamous bridge I love fell in love with Jess again 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:16.480 because he was on the verge of tears and you 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.560 could hear it crackling in his voice a little bit, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.560 and he said, listen, I did everything I could and 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.000 he knew he screwed up and he knew. I think 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.360 that was a big moment in his life where the 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.320 you know, the the love of his life, the woman, 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.960 the girl that he thinks that he can can save him. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.280 But he's gonna blow it. He's gonna blow it every time, 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.440 and he's gonna go away because he knows he's not ready. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.880 And I think that he's noble that I think there 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:43.360 was some real nobility in in him and in the 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.120 end and the choice he made to get on a 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.559 bus and get out of town go back to his mother. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.520 I don't know if what the it's going to turn 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.560 out to be whether Luke forced him onto that bus 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.280 and saying, get the hell out of here. I've had enough. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.440 You've hurt you know, my family here, which is Laurel 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.200 and Rory. You've hurt my family. Get the heck. I 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.880 don't know if Luke did that. I want to say 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:09.200 that nobility one the day and Jess withdrew honorably and said, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.160 I'm going to go back to my mom. I'm not 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.000 ready to be in a society. I am not ready. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.680 I've got to go. I've got to go get my 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.280 act together, get my head together, and deal with my 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.640 problems with my mother and maybe be a better guy. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.040 So that can't wait till you see what's coming. But 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.280 what did what did Riley and Danielle think of the 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.160 of the whole thing save that the fight. We're going 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.840 to talk about that, but what did you think of 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.440 all of it? So, like Scott was saying earlier, how 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.320 Jess needs Rory, and I feel like that last scene, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.840 just like you're saying, Scott, like he realized how badly 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.840 he messed it up, and he was so remorseful, and 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.920 I felt for him so much in that moment. But 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.720 then I'm also like Jess, she's the one that wanted 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:00.360 to turn right one more time, like it is out 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.920 too much, like it's had her fault too. But in 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.280 that moment, I was like, oh, man, like he really 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:12.839 is just shattered, like completely gutted. I felt for him 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.520 so shattered. But how how Jess and Rory looked at 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.960 each other in the car especially like gave me all 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.520 the fields. It was like, like just the way they're 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.200 looking at each other, you can like see you can 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.440 see how much they like each other. And then the 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.840 bridge scene, like how beautiful, like the metaphor was that 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.040 once the bridge that once Luke pushed Jess off, he's 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.600 now sitting next to Jess, lifting him up and like 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.720 being there for him and wearing matching green jackets. Yea, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.960 and in the same spot where Jess and Rory had 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:51.840 the picnic. Yeah, that was a wonderful scene. That's sitting 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.040 down next to him. What do you think about the 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:00.880 fact that Dean and I'm using quotes air quotes is missing. 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.720 You know that he's at Grandma's during all of this, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.080 as opposed to sort of being there, which would have 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:10.960 been a totally different version what is so funny. Poor Dean, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.040 he's just his car's getting crushed. His heart's getting That 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.560 car is emblematic of his heart, right, that's a pre 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.680 crushed heart. He doesn't know that his heart is going 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.320 to end up like the car, but it's going to 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.040 end up like the car, and it's the poor kid. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.360 I just feel bad for him. I don't know what's coming, 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.080 but it ain't good for old Dean. Are old buddy Dean? 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.200 You know? To interject? You know. The thing I like 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.640 about Bilmore Girls is like, you know, because I don't 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.400 when did when did this episode? Arrogain Riley April April? 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.720 So we're heading into like May sweeps. So you could 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.200 have had an episode where it's like the car accident 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.960 and a big you know, a very special Gilmore to 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.880 be continued and we're all left like that. But the 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.920 thing that's so brilliant about it is like the car 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.040 accident was in the middle of the episode. There was 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.680 so much more and we still got the movie and 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.840 the levity and the sort of the scene between Lane 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.480 and Rory as they're walking, and that I think is 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.400 something that I really like about the show. It does 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.400 the unexpected because so many shows would have left us 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.360 hanging on a cliffhanger and like, oh my god, and 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.720 instead we get real life. We didn't even see the accident, 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.520 and for the second time, an animal caused a car accident. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.120 But wait a minute, wait, let's go back. You said something. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.480 It did end on a cliffhanger. It ended on correct 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.240 with Jess leaving right, But that could have been the 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.640 second cliffhanger that could have, you know. So here's what's 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.200 so funny. And I know you guys weren't be able 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.000 to help me with this, so I really hope people 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.200 listening will I've seen this episode at least three times, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.960 probably four, because I watched it when it was on originally, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.360 then I watched all the dvs, so now I'm watching 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.640 it third, fourth time in streaming. In my mind, we 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.439 saw the car accident. So the whole scene in the car, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.280 I was having like a stomachache. I'm like, it's coming, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.240 it's coming. And I watched it through my hands because 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.720 I was so nervous, like I know the car accidents coming. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.679 It's so blew my mind that we don't see the 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.000 car acts and it don't need to see it. You 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.720 don't need to see it correct, but it was so weird. 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.000 I wonder if anyone else listening had that same reaction 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.080 on like a second or third watching, where you forgot 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.360 that you don't see it because the it's so dramatic. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:36.320 I felt like we saw it. I did actually like rewind, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.920 like when when Roy was in the hospital, was like, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.399 did I just miss something like a scene like where 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.399 was the crash? Really like rewound it like a minute 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.399 and I'm like, oh no, it just jumps right to 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.200 the hospital, which is so interesting. Your imagination does the 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.520 work for you. That's that's that's good writing, where it's 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.000 like you don't need to see it because you've already 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.480 seen it in your mind. And then they do show 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.920 the car and the tow truck, so you're like, oh, 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:06.360 that's no fender bit. No, No, that was a big hit, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.880 a big that's like goodbye Dean car. It's like that's 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.280 a big hit. Yeah, that's all right. So anyway, I interject, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.840 but back to what you all think of Dean and 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.879 and Dean and Grandma's I'm happy he wasn't in this episode. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:27.359 I don't think I can do another pouting Dean scene. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.639 I just I can't. They just they just need to 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.399 put him in a body bag and get him off 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:36.400 the show. I mean, he's just just he's done. He's 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.280 gonna he's gonna spontaneously combust. I mean, he's just gonna 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:43.360 does he explode in an episode? I mean, I mean, 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.480 the poor guy. I mean, so for the three of you, 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.159 do you think the car accident and the drama that 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.119 ensues will bring Rory and Jess closer or split them up? 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.480 I definitely think I'll bring him closer. I think he's 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.520 going to come back, and I think she's gonna be 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.719 thinking about it so much. She's gonna be sitting there 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.080 with her broken wrist fractured wrist, and be thinking about 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.920 Jazz and if he's okay. And I think that constant 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.720 thinking and he'll be doing the same, and I'll just 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:15.399 bring him closer. Danielle, I agree. I think Jess is 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.639 going to check in on Rory and apologize and just 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.120 feel super crappy about it, and he's going to be like, Rory, 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.120 are you doing okay? I'm sorry, and then she's gonna 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.560 be like, oh my god, he cares about me. Ballo. Yeah, 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.560 I I don't see Jess. The thing that interests. Intrigues 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.280 me the most is how Jess is going to get 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:38.199 past the the tank divisions that Laurel I places in 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.440 front of the house to to fend him off if 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.359 he ever comes near again. I love that you guys 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.560 don't know. I mean, I know, everyone's like in their cars, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.800 were like, I don't know vacuuming right now, going how 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.960 do they not? But it's like, but it's but it's 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.720 you know, there's going. I know that I know one thing, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.719 and this is my prediction in and I don't know 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:06.840 this in any other way except in my predictive capabilities. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.520 But but but I think there's gonna be a big 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:14.280 mother daughter scene where Rory begs or Rory tries to 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.400 make Laurel I understand how she feels. And I think 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:22.800 that's gonna be a big, tumultuous scene. There's gonna be 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.600 a lot of conflict in it. Maybe it's two conversations, 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.680 maybe it's three. It's gonna take three conversations for for Laurel. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.400 I had to call off the Doberman's um who are 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.040 now currently sniffing jess socks, you know, getting the scent. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.800 So I'm not gonna say it again. But I think 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.159 we should all just tell all off right now. Anyway, 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.600 let's let's get some refreshments. I'm gonna pass around some 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:54.280 cucumber slices and we'll be back after these works. Yeah, right, everybody, 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.679 we're back. That was good, cucumber. Thank you? That was 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:04.480 nice refreshing. Uh do you like Christopher list? I do? 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.400 What what made me uncomfortable? And it's again this sort 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:13.200 of Lukey Scott thing jealousy, uh, stuff that doesn't really exist, 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:17.840 but it does, um, it does. I didn't like that 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.639 she that Laurelized kept saying like in sort of with 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.560 her mooney eyes to him, like I really like it 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.560 when you're here. Yes, I like it too. You know 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.399 this his girlfriend. Yeah, but are none of you getting 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:39.960 a vibe? Things aren't so, Sherry? Yes, it's not so 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.560 sunshine and rainbows. You must in right now because again 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.880 I know so I don't see it with fresh eyes. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.000 So you guys are seeing it And that was clear 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:52.560 because I felt it was clear, But I didn't know 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.280 if I was, like, I'm sure quarterbacking because I know 0:21:55.359 --> 0:22:00.600 what's happening. Were you happy to feel that, Sherry? You 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:06.440 know there's trouble in Paradise with Christopher and Sherry. No, right, 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:12.080 not at all. I'm like, get the possessive side of me? 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.280 Is I get back to Sherry? You know, tend tend 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.160 to business. I mean, I I get sure he needs 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.760 to be with his daughter, and but it was just 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.560 it was so um, that was a little uncomfortable for 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:28.000 me to watch. I didn't like seeing Laurel. I like that. Um, 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.359 And what do the girls think? Because I like it. 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.439 I look, you're my number one, but I like Christopher. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.520 Unpopular opinion, Christopher is my number one. I love when 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:44.479 they're together. I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but smile 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.840 ear to ear every single time I see them together. 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:51.560 I'm like, there's just so much chemistry. I love. I 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.000 love them. I do well, And especially because it's so 0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:01.280 coming after the biggest fight that Luke Lorea have ever had, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:07.320 so we're like, oh, god, Riley, what do you think? 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:13.119