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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams

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Speaker 1: session on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: Wesley Yuler and Rob King here sitting in as the

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Speaker 2: Steelers finishing up the first practice of their otaight sessions

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. They'll have six of these sessions, guys,

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Speaker 2: then they'll break, uh, they'll have their mini camp mandatory

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Speaker 2: mini camp following that. So nine practices overall Tuesdays through Thursdays.

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Speaker 3: And they're not the same thing kind they're all the same.

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Speaker 2: And OTA sessions are voluntary. Mini camp sessions are mandatory.

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Speaker 3: It's a difference, huge difference, and you can find if

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Speaker 3: you're not here for yes, just like trading camp.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Oh by the way, West didn't get the same.

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Speaker 4: No, I was going to say, the three of you

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Speaker 4: guys were in the same backet. I clearly clearly wasn't

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Speaker 4: c seed on that one.

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Speaker 5: It's okay though. It's a nice jack, you know what.

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Speaker 4: It's funny though, I swear to you guys, when I

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Speaker 4: was getting ready this morning, I almost.

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Speaker 5: Put that same.

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Speaker 3: Hilarious the four of us.

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Speaker 5: That would look great. You can tell we all get

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Speaker 5: water from the same well.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 2: It was just you know, supporting the team.

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Speaker 5: I messed up. I mean, we would have looked, we

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Speaker 5: would have looked real official to the four of us.

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Speaker 2: We would have like, wow, look at those guys, they're

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Speaker 2: all like teamwork.

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Speaker 4: Black hat, zip up jacket, will coordinate for for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the week.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Well, shirtless Tom will be here tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Tom a perman sitting in for Weshley yul Er tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: So I'll be back thursdaysday, right, Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: So these OTA sessions again, I don't care necessarily who

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Speaker 2: isn't here. I don't care if now, if it's a rookie,

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Speaker 2: that's different totally. And that's been the case over the years.

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Speaker 2: Have been guys who while they you know, the way

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Speaker 2: their college graduation went and things like that, they weren't

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Speaker 2: capable of being like Ohio State for a long time

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Speaker 2: the way that they did their graduation or their semesters,

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Speaker 2: their trimesters or yeah, their trimesters, and so therefore their

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Speaker 2: guys weren't eligible to come and work out at OTA

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Speaker 2: sessions just quite yet until they finished their school year.

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Speaker 2: That's not the case anymore. They've adjusted that, uh so, And.

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Speaker 3: There's not contractual problems like there was way back when.

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Speaker 3: Either with the CBA, you're basically slotted in, you know,

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Speaker 3: but we still.

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Speaker 2: See, for example, in Cincinnati, Shammar Seart uh not taking

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Speaker 2: part in the OTA sessions. He's there, but he's not

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Speaker 2: taking it out, sitting it out because of some contractual.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's the language of the contract.

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Speaker 2: Language of the contract is that he is bothered by

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Speaker 2: that he is not working out with the team. Can

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Speaker 2: that hold him back?

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Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, especially considering that situation in that Hendrickson's far

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Speaker 3: and away their best player, but he's not happy contractually

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Speaker 3: right now either, and he's not going to do anything

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Speaker 3: in the near future. And Stuart is potentially the most

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Speaker 3: talented defensive end in this draft, but potentially the rosst

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Speaker 3: and least productive too, so he needs every little bit

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Speaker 3: he can get. And I kind of equated it to

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Speaker 3: her big following around Watt Harmon, following around Hayward. You

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Speaker 3: definitely want the first round pick and last year's too,

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Speaker 3: Miles Murphy to be following around Hendrickson. You know, anything, right,

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Speaker 3: right right. And the Bengals have really drafted defense heavy

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Speaker 3: the last three or four years because they have to

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Speaker 3: pay Burrow and Higgins and all these guys on offense.

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Speaker 3: But they've developed that talent really, really poorly. And this

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Speaker 3: is not exactly the best start to develop in your

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Speaker 5: Pick, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a little bit of the jump

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Speaker 4: start that you want, right, Like you mentioned, you hear

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Speaker 4: this all the time. You know, it's all been the

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Speaker 4: way everything's legislated with the CBA and all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Now you get less football than ever before, way less.

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Speaker 4: The only playing football is by playing football, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and so yeah, while these are optional, man, it's it's

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Speaker 4: particularly for young guys who are trying to hop on

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Speaker 4: that moving train, like we talked about in the first hour,

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Speaker 4: that's that's some time that you're kind of stuck in

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Speaker 4: the starting blocks.

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Speaker 3: And it's not you know, let's pick on the rest

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Speaker 3: of the AFC North session here. But that's part of

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Speaker 3: my problem with the Browns too, is you have four

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks that need substantial reps. He got two rookies that

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Speaker 3: are pedigree guys that you want to get out there

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Speaker 3: at least as much as Howard's going to be here.

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Speaker 3: Flacco was with the team, but not last year, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably your first year start or your

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Speaker 3: with the ones. He doesn't need a ton of preseason work,

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Speaker 3: but he still needs to run with the ones, and

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Speaker 3: they'd like to pick it enough to give up a

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Speaker 3: decent pick for him. So now you got four guys

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Speaker 3: all trying to split up work, and there's not as

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Speaker 3: much work. The pie is on as big as it

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Speaker 3: used to be. There's not two days like it wasn't

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Speaker 3: the eighties and things like that.

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Speaker 2: No, by the way, Deshaun Watson has now showed up

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Speaker 2: and said he intends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's throwing all all of a sudden, everyone assumed

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Speaker 3: he would never play again. But what do you do

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Speaker 3: with that?

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Speaker 4: Just a mess, not a not a great place to

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Speaker 4: be and not a great place to be. And what

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Speaker 4: you do with it is like, hopefully have all the

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Speaker 4: hands on deck you can at this point and at

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Speaker 4: least you can get started and kind of dividing that labor,

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Speaker 4: you know, at the end of May as opposed to

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Speaker 4: the end of July.

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Speaker 3: But you got to think about those things.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean other small things people don't think about, is

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Speaker 3: like preseason, you better have a pretty decent number two

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Speaker 3: oh line because you need to evaluate and you know

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Speaker 3: you do. I keep on this team and if I

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Speaker 3: don't have any kind of line to throw out there

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Speaker 3: in the second half of preseason games, a lot of

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Speaker 3: this tape I'm.

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Speaker 2: Watching, Yeah, my quarterback is just getting the snap and

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Speaker 2: ducking every time. That doesn't allow me to I can't

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Speaker 2: look at my receivers, right, I can't run running backs.

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Speaker 3: I can't look am I keeping the right people getting

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Speaker 3: any better? You know?

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Speaker 4: You know we we mentioned Jalen Warren in the first

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Speaker 4: hour as well too, and maybe they're a little different

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Speaker 4: than this regard in the running back room this year

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Speaker 4: because Jayalen Warren's been in house for a handfull of years.

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Speaker 4: You know what Kenneth Gain And while Calen Johnson's a rookie,

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Speaker 4: he's still a fairly high pedigree one. Right, it was

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Speaker 4: a Day two pick, But if you had Jalen Warren

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Speaker 4: as an undrafted free agent, it's hard to evaluate him

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Speaker 4: as well too. If the offensive line in front of

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Speaker 4: him has given you enough rutal how are you gonna

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Speaker 4: get a true evaluation and kind of spin for him,

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Speaker 4: for your quarterbacks, for your wide receivers, for everybody on

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Speaker 4: that offense, if you can't at least have a stable

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Speaker 4: number two unit in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: Right And of course, oh, line depth is critical throughout

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Speaker 3: the season, but that guy kind of goes without saying,

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Speaker 3: but in order to really get to maximize your preseason,

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Speaker 3: you better have a decent line out there that are

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Speaker 3: at least serviceable NFL type players.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. The Steelers just wrapping up their practice now, the

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Speaker 2: players coming off the field, We're expected to get one

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Speaker 2: of the players coming off the fielder, but a lot

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Speaker 2: Not uncommon, Yeah, not uncommon at all. Yeah, it just

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Speaker 3: But a lot of these guys have fresh legs, they

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Speaker 3: haven't done anything for a while on the football field.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're not excited to come off the field.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like a lot of people around and talk

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Speaker 2: to one Broderick Jones who might be making a little

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Speaker 2: positions switched.

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Speaker 3: This year critical year for him too, it really is.

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Speaker 2: And so I see Patrick Queen also over there holding court,

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Speaker 2: but it looks like Broderick's you doesn't want to talk today.

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Speaker 2: So that's a guy going into year three that and

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Speaker 2: I've heard people say, well, the Steelers, they haven't treated

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Speaker 2: him fairly. What are you talking about. They took him,

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Speaker 2: you know, first of all, they traded up to get him.

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Speaker 2: They made him a starter. No, it was on the

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Speaker 2: right side, but it's not like he hadn't worked on

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Speaker 2: the right side. And to me, you know, the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing was you want to put your best five guys

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Speaker 2: on the field. And we know that Dan Moore Junior

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Speaker 2: was a better left tackle than right tackle, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't even close, right because I've heard well, why didn't

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Speaker 2: they just take Broderick Jones and put him on the

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Speaker 2: left side and he'll figure out the right side. No,

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Speaker 2: that's not how this works.

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Speaker 3: Moore had a nice stint here and he continued to

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Speaker 3: get better and was really you know.

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Speaker 2: They got twenty and a half million dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: He was really rewarded financially from an offensive line starve

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Speaker 3: team that was trying to build a spot for their

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Speaker 3: first overall pick. But one thing that really hurt the

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Speaker 3: whole puzzle piece during the more stint was he could

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Speaker 3: that would have made things fall into place a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't even necessarily his fault, guys, because it's

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Speaker 2: just the way the things worked out his rookie year

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Speaker 2: that he took all of his snaps on the left side,

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Speaker 2: and there was intention to move him to the right

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Speaker 2: he just never got the opportunity to do it. And

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Speaker 2: then when he becomes your starter on the left side,

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Speaker 5: You don't want to move your kind on the left right.

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Speaker 2: I think you're starting left tackle. Let's get him some

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Speaker 2: snaps at right tackle, just just in case.

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Speaker 4: Like it doesn't work out, that's the one position you

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Speaker 4: want to solidify most on the other line.

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Speaker 2: Want your left tackle to feel comfortable. So he stayed

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Speaker 2: and that's just how it worked out.

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Speaker 3: If he's taking a bunch of snaps at right tackle,

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Speaker 3: probably would have been a lesser left tackle right, you know,

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Speaker 3: on game day and when you need it most, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it isn't the puzzle that's always cleaned to put together.

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Speaker 5: No it's not.

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Speaker 4: But I think part of all that puzzle movement over

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Speaker 4: the last year two years, hopefully some of those growing

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Speaker 4: pains again, like you've made the investment. Now hopefully you're

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Speaker 4: going to reap the reward, right right of having to

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Speaker 4: get Fraser out there maybe a little bit earlier than

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Speaker 4: you wanted to, if happened to get McCormick out there

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Speaker 4: a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 3: Then you thought James Daniels was gonna be the right

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think that the one kind of

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Speaker 3: If damn words worth twenty million dollars, there's a shortage.

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Speaker 4: Back on the South Side where the first OTA session

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Speaker 4: us now Troy Futanu of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Troy, thank

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Speaker 7: H Honestly, I'm just been so excited to get back

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Speaker 7: This something I've been looking forward to for a really

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Speaker 3: So so obviously you didn't get to play as much

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I mean for me, you know, coming off

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Speaker 6: Obviously, physically I wasn't able.

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Speaker 3: So totally makes sense. And you know, along those lines.

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Speaker 3: But you guys are been around the block a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: We worked out together every single day last and when

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Speaker 4: So it's got to be an exciting time for that

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know a lot of these coaches, especially

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, although we are a young on line,

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Speaker 6: The right word, but they just talk about it every

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Speaker 5: Emphasis.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of expectation from that group, our group,

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Speaker 4: So Troy, we know you got a lot going on here,

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 4: Troy FOULTONU Steelers right tackle heading into year number two,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we also got, uh, you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: Like that. Now it has to hit right, you know.

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Speaker 5: See what you just see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is different than that though, because these guys,

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Speaker 5: Than the first round, first round, second round, fourth round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are guys who you you know, the expectation

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be eventual starters.

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Speaker 3: And hopefully these aren't sixth.

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Speaker 2: Round pictures seventh rounds where you throw them in there

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so. One that's one that you know, I think

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you if you every offensive lineman that I've

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Speaker 2: ever talked to in the thirty plus years that I've

441
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Speaker 2: been doing this, what do you like to do better? Runner?

442
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 2: Pass block, run block? Oh, you want to be the aggressor.

443
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 2: And so you know, if I'm an offensive lineman in

444
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: this system, and I know that I know that Arthur

445
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 2: Smith wants to run the football, not just run the football,

446
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: run the heck out of the football, I'm excited, Like, Okay,

447
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: I get you know, half of our offensive plays are

448
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 2: going to be me getting a chance to attack the

449
00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. And that just doesn't happen everywhere. I'm I mean,

450
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 2: there's you know, when you look at this uh match,

451
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 2: you mentioned that the you know, some of these teams

452
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: just didn't run the ball very much. The New York

453
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: Jets ran the ball three hundred and sixty three times, right,

454
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 2: the fewest in the league.

455
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 3: Brutal.

456
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: That's a massive difference from the five hundred plus rushing

457
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 2: attempts to Steelers.

458
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: Act. The Raiders were a lot differing. Their quarterback wasn't

459
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 3: the Jets last year too? I Mean, it's a lot

460
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 3: easier on him if you are running the ball two

461
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: hundred more times than the Jets did too.

462
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

463
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: But you know, I just think that that offensive line,

464
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: with that pedigree and that investment that Steelers have put

465
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 2: into it, it should be and better be good this year.

466
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And That's the thing is it's last year. Daniels

467
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: was lated to start. Maybe herbig would have started the season.

468
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: You know, obviously Troy was just with us, was set

469
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: to and a lot of curve balls get thrown at

470
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: you as a line coach, as you know, getting these

471
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Speaker 3: guys ready, and hopefully those things aren't in the future

472
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: now in terms of injuries before the season or early

473
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: in the season. But it's getting to the point this

474
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: league moves so fast that we don't need excuses for

475
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: the O line anymore. It needs to be a strength

476
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 3: of the team and that's why you invested in them

477
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 3: in the fashion that you did. Now it's time for

478
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: them to be the backbone.

479
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 4: And you you mentioned to Dale how offensive linemen are

480
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,239
Speaker 4: more excited to run block than pass block. And I

481
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 4: think particularly like that's the group that they drafted too.

482
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: When when the Steelers Tookers, when the Steelers took Fraser,

483
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Speaker 4: when they took McCormick, when they took FALTONU what did

484
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 4: you see in the highlight? But you saw them moving

485
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 4: and hitting people. You saw them attacking downhill sor what

486
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 4: they do. That's what that's what they do, that's what

487
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: they were brought in to do. And again when you

488
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 4: start to think about what Caleb Johnson I think could

489
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 4: be behind them as well too, that it's hard not

490
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 4: to be encouraged and I think enthusiastic about that.

491
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Speaker 3: Group hundred percent. And to your point, I mean, the

492
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: league is going this direction too, but they're not bringing

493
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: in huge, fat guys that can't move, you know, you know,

494
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: they're just mashers, come off the ball in the phone

495
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: pooth guys. I mean I mentioned it in the first hour.

496
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Speaker 3: It was really impressed with how it's starting three from

497
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 3: center to right tackle. We're just getting off the balls,

498
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: and they were getting off the ball in drills, and

499
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 3: how quick they are and how athletic they are, and

500
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: even just walking past these guys, you know, particularly Troy

501
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: who just sat down next to us, it's like, Yeah,

502
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 3: these are athletes that are just big human beings. They're

503
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: not big human beings trying to be athletes, you know.

504
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Speaker 4: I mean, Fraser McCormick was walking past us a few

505
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 4: minutes ago. They both looked like they've bulked up a

506
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: little bit.

507
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Speaker 6: This.

508
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah they've got that sophomore season, you know, body coming

509
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 4: coming in nicely.

510
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, But they don't have extra weight on, but.

511
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: They still still see a move thor out there glide

512
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: really well, yeah, that's it's exciting.

513
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: And Broderick looks like a first round pick since the

514
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: day he got here too. I mean, ye, body type

515
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: isn't a problem for him.

516
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: Guys. I talked to Caleb Johnson's high school football coach.

517
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Speaker 2: Mind you, this is in suburban Cincinnati, Okay, they're.

518
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Speaker 5: Just outside of Bengals Country, Ben Country.

519
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 6: He is a.

520
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: Bengals fan, and he said, I can't believe the Steelers

521
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: got got Caleb because he is the perfect fit for

522
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: their offense and what they do. He is going to

523
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: be a monster in that system, you know, just you know,

524
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: he said, I'm gonna hate it because he's going against

525
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: the root for him every but that he's going to

526
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: really factor in behind that offensive line and what Arthur

527
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: Smith wants to do. Because that you can see it.

528
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: If you know football, you can see what the what

529
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: the eye, what the the grand scheme is. You can

530
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: see the endgame of this whole thing. But last year

531
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: they just couldn't necessarily do it. I mean, how many

532
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: times did they run the outside pitch to nausey? Harrison

533
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: was a couple of times per game, but every time

534
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: they did it, everybody, Oh there's that outside pitch to

535
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: nausey again. It never works. I don't know why they

536
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: do it. Well, it didn't always fail. But also you

537
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: want to do it. That's what your offense is going

538
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: to be. You know, you want you you.

539
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 5: Got to commit somewhere.

540
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you want Okay, can I offense more successful?

541
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

542
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: He just needed to be more successful. And you know

543
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 2: there were times when you looked at it and go, well,

544
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: he could have he could have cut that up there

545
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: and maybe didn't or didn't get to the edge, but

546
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: the line was out there. Yeah, And so I just

547
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: think it's going to be it's gonna look a lot

548
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: different this year across the board.

549
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 4: At least it better right or else they're they're not

550
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: going to take the step forward as an offense that

551
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: we want him to. And Troy kind of touched on

552
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: that too, right, he said, every meeting with Mike Tomlin,

553
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: it's very clear, like everything, everything that we want to

554
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: do starts right here.

555
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

556
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Speaker 4: And when you know, when they're drilling that into your

557
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: head in May, you better believe that that better, that

558
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: better surface.

559
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: In September well, the other thing that they're drilling into

560
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: their heads. And I just jumped over and got into

561
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: the Mason Rudolph scrum there while you guys were talking.

562
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 5: Mustache Mason.

563
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, he shaved off the goatee.

564
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 5: I was right, you were right.

565
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: Now he's like, Freddie Murcury looks like I didn't tell

566
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: him that, but he said, you know, one of the

567
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: things that they've started off their sessions with here and

568
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: he said, they just did it. We'd team meeting in there,

569
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: is that we've been, you know, in the top three

570
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: in each of the last two seasons in turnover ratio.

571
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: We want to protect the football and we want to

572
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: be aggressive and taking the football away. And that's what

573
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: that's the idea, that's what Steeler football is supposed to be.

574
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: Right now, you mentioned how long we've been doing this,

575
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: and neither one was compared to Dale. But I mean

576
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: you quickly notice, starting today up until through the time

577
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: at Latrobe, their themes and there are themes that this

578
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: resonate from the top down that must get drilled in

579
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: these heads.

580
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: When you've had the same head coach for two days exactly,

581
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 4: you had the same general manager for two decades and

582
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: then hired a general manager who has been groomed within

583
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: the organization as well too, to replace them from Kevin

584
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: Colbert to Omar Khan. I think it gets much easier

585
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 4: and effective to do that. Yeah, you'll laugh at this,

586
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: but what it reminds me of and you said, we've

587
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: been around enough now heading into the eighth year of

588
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: this process.

589
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: For me to hear it is.

590
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: Like, and I'm I'm I I I don't want to

591
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: sit here on the microphone and act like someone who's

592
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: in church every single Sunday and that type of thing.

593
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 4: But I think if you are a church goer, a

594
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: lot of times the pastor does a series of messages, right,

595
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: so like around Easter it'll be a series of messages

596
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 4: on the resurrection and what like, it's a series. Mike

597
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: Tomlin is very congressional, he's very pastor like in like,

598
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: this is a series of messages. Week one is gonna be,

599
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: this week two is gonna be, this week six is

600
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: gonna be that. You know, so we're gonna go through

601
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: this entire thing. It's the same process. I know what

602
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm practicing, I know what I'm preaching, right and again,

603
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: when when you've been with the same organization for twenty years.

604
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean, they really have that fine tuned. And yeah,

605
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 4: like you said, if you're someone like us who's fortunate

606
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: enough to be around a lot, you would you'd have

607
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: to be blind to not pick up on.

608
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: It as well. Yeah, exactly, And I really got that

609
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 3: feeling just a short conversation we have with Troy that

610
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: all starts with the O line, all starts with the

611
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: O line. I bet we hear that like an avalanche

612
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: over the next couple of months.

613
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: Right, totally.

614
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 4: If there was, you know, and again I guess it

615
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: was towards the end of the season, so it's a

616
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: little bit different a timeframe. But like if there was

617
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: a hard knocks type thing again with the Steelers, I'm

618
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: sure that would be at the forefront, right, A lot

619
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: of that at the front of the room.

620
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: Talking about how this has to be.

621
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: The group games.

622
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's on both sides of the ball. You

623
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: got to win the trenches. I mean, you can look

624
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: at football and if it's a passing league and you know,

625
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: this stuff doesn't matter. It's still a game. That's one

626
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: up front.

627
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: And now we've talked about, you know, since Omar took

628
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: over the investment on the O line in the draft.

629
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of high picks. Well

630
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 3: now it's Benton and Harmon too, you know, I mean

631
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: in black to a lesser degree, maybe Blackster McCormick, where

632
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: he's the mid round pick that plays quite a bit,

633
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: but those top dudes. And we've seen a lot out

634
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: of Benton. But they've drafted a lot of big people

635
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: in the last three drafts. And that's not one day

636
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: two right, It's a very Eagles thing to do.

637
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And Andy Whitdel we know, of course. Yeah,

638
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 4: and I think I know you guys talk about this

639
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 4: a lot too. They they've had a plan in that regard.

640
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, No, it's not built in a day.

641
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: It's not built in a day, and nothing is guaranteed,

642
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: but but there is there's there's certainly a process and

643
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: a plan and that that they have invested in and

644
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: are believing in here and are hoping that this year

645
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: is the start of everyone picking that up and realizing.

646
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: That which I think in the end, well not in

647
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: the end, but in the year from now, is really

648
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: the groundwork for inserting that first round quarterback. You know,

649
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean, once you're good on the lines of scrimmage.

650
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: You give that guy a chance building nests. It's hard enough,

651
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: and go get.

652
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: Aggressive when you think it's it's the right time, right right, right.

653
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: If you were good at the lines of scrimmage, you're

654
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: going to win a lot of football games.

655
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

656
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: It just that's just the way it works out. I mean,

657
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: you're going to win a lot of football games if

658
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: you are better than your opponents on the offensive and

659
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Speaker 2: defensive lines.

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Speaker 3: They're the hardest thing to find. There's not many humans

661
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Speaker 3: walk in the planet that can do that.

662
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Speaker 2: The planet theory. Yeah, I mean three hundred pounders are

663
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Speaker 2: there out there that.

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Speaker 5: Can run four six four or five four seven range?

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Speaker 6: Right?

666
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And again it's easy to say that now.

667
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Speaker 4: I think even more so because you look at the

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Speaker 4: teams that have been in the conference championship games the

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Speaker 4: last handful of years.

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Speaker 2: Look at last year's Super Bowl is perfect.

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Speaker 5: Last years Super Bowl is a perfect example.

672
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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs have the best quarterback.

673
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Speaker 5: In the league, one of the best of all time, one.

674
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Speaker 2: Of the best of all time, but when he doesn't

675
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: have time to throw the football because their offensive line

676
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: wasn't very good. In Philadelphia's defensive line was very good.

677
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: You saw the results. They couldn't function.

678
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Speaker 4: And the same thing happened to them, what three or

679
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: four years ago when they played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

680
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Speaker 4: and lost that Super Bowl. You know, the three super

681
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: Bowls that Mahomes and the Chiefs have won, they've had

682
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Speaker 4: solid footing in the trenches. The two that they lost,

683
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: they got their doors blown in the trenches.

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Speaker 5: There's again, you.

685
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Speaker 4: Don't have to you don't have to be a genius to

686
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Speaker 4: kind of to kind of figure that out.

687
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Speaker 3: Ye, And when the competition gets that strong, even though

688
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Speaker 3: you have Superman a quarterback, Hey, I need help you,

689
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Speaker 3: no one can do.

690
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Speaker 6: It a lot.

691
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Speaker 4: Superman can maybe dodge one piece of kryptonite, but he

692
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: can't dodge four or five pieces of Get.

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Speaker 3: You there, yeah right, yeah, I mean we win in

694
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Speaker 3: the regular season and and their line also got progressively

695
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Speaker 3: worse too.

696
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Speaker 2: You know absolutely, well, guys, you want to get to

697
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Speaker 2: another break here before we come back and on the show.

698
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Speaker 2: As the we get the field crew out there working

699
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Speaker 2: on the field here cleaning everything up. After having a

700
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Speaker 2: lot of very large men out there running around on

701
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: this crypt brand new grass looks, they just put it

702
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: in about a month ago returfed this whole, whole part

703
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Speaker 2: of this side of the field.

704
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Speaker 3: Here protect I was down here, this was all dirt

705
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Speaker 3: and hadn't put it down.

706
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Speaker 4: Here, particularly for the lack of sunshine we've had in

707
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Speaker 4: western Pennsylvania rain To.

708
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Get it nice and uh water, no doubt one had

709
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Speaker 2: to turn the sprinklers on much, I would imagine, but

710
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Speaker 2: it's looking good. He is Wesley Euler. That's Matt Williamson.

711
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to our live ongoing

712
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Speaker 2: coverage here from Steeler Ota Sessions here at the upmc

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Speaker 2: rooney Sports Complex on Fox Sports Pittsburgh nine seventy and

714
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after.

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Speaker 1: This list is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williams session on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to our ongoing coverage here live from

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Ota Sessions here at the upmc rooney Sports

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Speaker 2: Complex on the South Side. I am Dale Lolly here

721
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: with Wesley Euler and train rolling by Matt Williamson. As

722
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Speaker 2: you hear him talking about the train rolling by, the

723
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: train keys and the NFL season is much like a

724
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: train coming. It's coming down the tracks.

725
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 5: Train keeps her rolling.

726
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: The train keeps her rolling all night.

727
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 4: Long, or on down to San anton Right, I guess

728
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: depending on which song you're There's not a San Antonio

729
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: team in the NFL, and that would work much better.

730
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Speaker 2: I wish there was. I'd love to go. That's one

731
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: city I've never visited.

732
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Speaker 5: Cool. Riverwalk is really cool.

733
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Speaker 4: Small Texas town, you know, like compared to Dallas and

734
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Speaker 4: the other bigger cities Houston.

735
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Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, but when I worked

736
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: next door there was a coaches college coaches convention in

737
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Speaker 3: San Antonio. That riverwalk spot was really cool.

738
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I've heard great things about it. Have

739
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: never been and it's not exactly on the right. Just

740
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Speaker 2: make a San Antonio go walk the riverwalk.

741
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Speaker 4: You know, especially summertime when it's like one hundred and

742
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: seven degrees every single day.

743
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: It just melt.

744
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Speaker 2: I'm really built for the sun.

745
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Speaker 5: Stick for the benches, and stick to the benches at

746
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Speaker 5: the river Riverwalk.

747
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Speaker 2: So guys, the practice session here wrapping up, that would

748
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Speaker 2: be number one.

749
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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I talked to Mason Roodolph and and

751
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: with a group and he said that, you know, DK

752
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: Metcalf wasn't here today. As I mentioned, it's not that

753
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: big of a deal because as he said, look, DK's

754
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: been here throughout the process in Phase ones and two.

755
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: He's been here on the field working out with us.

756
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: He just wasn't here today. God had something else going on.

757
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Because not a big deal, believe it or not. These

758
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: guys have lives.

759
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: They have lives on their own training regiments and you know,

760
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: family commitments and things like that too.

761
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Speaker 4: We also too, like we all joke about this a lot,

762
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: but for a league that runs on the same schedule,

763
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Speaker 4: there's also a lot of uncertain time periods. So when

764
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Speaker 4: did we find out exactly what this OTA schedule was

765
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Speaker 4: going to be two months ago? Is that around the

766
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Speaker 4: Combine Baite?

767
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Combine or maybe the owner's meetings in March.

768
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Speaker 4: So if you're DK Metcalf and in January or February,

769
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Speaker 4: you planned a vacation, or you planned a something, or

770
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Speaker 4: you're helping your mom do this.

771
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Speaker 2: Or somebody and your family had something come up, or.

772
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Speaker 4: Just somebody in your family had something come up. But yeah,

773
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Speaker 4: it can, it can, I think be harder to schedule

774
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: for these things than people think, even though they happen

775
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: the same time every year.

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Speaker 3: Because these guys that makes sense little free program that

777
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: there's a lot of boxes they have to check in

778
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: leaving vacations to keep them stations.

779
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Speaker 4: And they're traveling and moving, They've got kids, might be

780
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Speaker 4: moving school districts and things.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he didn't know he was getting traded, like Dale.

782
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Speaker 4: Said, it could have just been something that came up.

783
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Speaker 4: It could have also been something that he planned last

784
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: November to.

785
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Speaker 3: Have something, you know, or Seattle usually does it. Then

786
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: then I think I'll be fine. But I didn't go

787
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Speaker 3: into Pittsburgh, right.

788
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Speaker 4: So yeah, there is a lot of unknown with that.

789
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Speaker 4: I mean, we didn't even have a schedule until two

790
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Speaker 4: weeks ago. So we know that there's gonna be games

791
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Speaker 4: on Sunday in the fall, but we didn't know they're

792
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Speaker 4: going to know your falls.

793
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Speaker 2: And the thing is like, and you know, having done

794
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: this so long, like I have a pretty good idea

795
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: of when this is going to happen, when that's going

796
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: to happen, and so you schedule your life around all

797
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: of that stuff, you know, but sometimes things come up

798
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: and you just can't can't be there. You know, there

799
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: have been games that I've missed over the years because

800
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: of stuff. Not many, but there there have been. There

801
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: have been practices I've missed over the years because of

802
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: stuff happens. It's no different for the players. But when

803
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: the when a player misses a practice like this, again,

804
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: a voluntary practice, you'll see reports on it. So and

805
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: so skipped this session.

806
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Like that'll be the biggest story and it shouldn't be right. No,

807
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: these guys weren't here, and he's not. He's not the

808
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: only one that wasn't here, you know, I mean, it's

809
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: not a big deal. And I don't think Mike Tomlin

810
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: or anyone is worried about their preparation or anything of

811
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: that nage.

812
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Now, would it have been nice to have seen him, sure, absolutely, But.

813
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Speaker 3: That's what it seemed in person, because he's such an

814
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: odd body type, you know, right, and such a big

815
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Speaker 3: human being.

816
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: But we had this this might be here tomorrow. Yeah,

817
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: we had this idea that everything has to happen on

818
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: our schedule as opposed to the player schedule. And they

819
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: have lives, they sure do.

820
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Speaker 5: And that's why again, uh, organized team.

821
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Speaker 4: I forget who was it said this, but some some

822
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: very good, very popular football player, like fifteen twenty years

823
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: ago said, I know it's organized team activities, but it

824
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: might as well stand for optional team activities. It was

825
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: not a Steeler, but I remember like that was a

826
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: big headline on ESPN. You know that some defensive back

827
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: said ten to fifteen years ago, that is true.

828
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Speaker 2: I mean these things didn't exist twenty five years ago.

829
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Speaker 2: I can remember like the first time I remember OTA

830
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: is happening, they were here. So that's been since two

831
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Speaker 2: thousand and I can remember the first the first few

832
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: years of this coming down here for the OTA sessions

833
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: and Bill Kauer. There's a deck here above us where

834
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: people can't see. We're on the radio, but there's a

835
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: deck above us here overlooking the field, and that's where

836
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: that's where Coauer would spend the OTA session if he

837
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: was here at all, because it was the on field

838
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: work with the coaches it was taking place, and he.

839
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Speaker 5: Let this let his coaches coach, right, coaches coach.

840
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: And he was standing oversea. It all kind of like

841
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: he was a Bear Bryant when you know, you're talking

842
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: about up on top of the tower, we're looking across

843
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: here at the at the Pitt facility, and they've got

844
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: a tower over there for the coach. The head coach

845
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: just stand up and watch everything going on where the

846
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: film practice from them and right, yeah, you know, so

847
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: they've they've morphed into something a little bit more than that.

848
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: And I get it. But we've also seen, especially this year,

849
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: a number of teams, about half the teams in the league,

850
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: because you're allowed ten of these sessions, about half the

851
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: teams in the league, the Steelers included among them, cut

852
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: those back. The Steelers going to six this year instead

853
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: of a lot of ten that they would normally would

854
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: have had, because I think a lot of teams just

855
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: looked at this as, Okay, do we really need.

856
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: We can accomplish what we can accomplish in two weeks.

857
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: We don't need three or four.

858
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: Now, if you're a new if you've got a new

859
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: coaching staff, you know, or you're implementing a new system something, yeah,

860
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: it's completely different. But in this situation, you're not reinventing

861
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: the wheel.

862
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: And I hate to say it, because the NFL is

863
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: so smart with how they market things and how they

864
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: present things through the course of the year, and fans

865
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: and media are so starved to talk about new football things,

866
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: but there's a couple of things over the course of

867
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: the year that are very overrated from an analysis standpoint,

868
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: and that's the beginning of mini camps and OTAs the

869
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: first couple of days of training camp when there's an

870
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: acclamation period. And my favorite is the Hall of Fame game.

871
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean, everyone is so psyched for the we got

872
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: pads or people are gonna be banging yeah, and then

873
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: you watch like ten plays and you're like, I don't

874
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: know anybody, anybody you know.

875
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. So last night, and as

876
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: we all did, our shows on YouTube has now shut

877
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: off now until the end to start a training camp.

878
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: But I was just looking to see because our tyler Viittmeyer,

879
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: who postes would do a yeah on Saturdays, would do

880
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: a best of the drive for the week, and I

881
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: hadn't gone on to look at it yet last night.

882
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: So I call up YouTube and I go to look

883
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: at the channel and one of the things I saw

884
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: in there, and it was from another outlet, Winners and

885
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: Losers from the Steelers Rookie Rookie.

886
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 3: Mini camp, like it's almost impossible to be a loser.

887
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: Not only that, right, the video was done by somebody

888
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: who has no access to even be here. So what

889
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: are you reporting on? You weren't here?

890
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: And this is I mean, this is a total, total,

891
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: total siginny shiny silver objects, right, But it is the

892
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: blessing in the curse. I think of of all the

893
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: access that we have as sports fans sports.

894
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: And its being the love for the league, I mean

895
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 3: loves the NFL.

896
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: You guys know, when I was growing up in the nineties,

897
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: you turned on Sports Center every morning and you got

898
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 4: all the highlights, and you had the sports page that

899
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: your dad left at the kitchen table.

900
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 6: Test.

901
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: Now there's seven thousand TV channels and websites and blogs

902
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: and and and that is great for a lot of.

903
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: And all these reporters that are on the sideline all

904
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: have to write or say.

905
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: But it's also now everyone is completing competing for those

906
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: clicks in those in those eyeballs. And yeah, when you

907
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: got to say something sometimes even when there's nothing really

908
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: to say, and then you would.

909
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Say, DK Metcalf wasn't here, Like who cares?

910
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: You'll get the aggregators in picking up what snippets of

911
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: what was said here to the reporters who were actually here.

912
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: And then it turns into the little phone call thing

913
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: where that aggregator picks up this aggregator which picks up

914
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: this aggregate, and its just completely morphs.

915
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: In the telephone game we used to play in elementary

916
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: school with the water.

917
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: A lot of times, I'll look at it's it will

918
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: be an interview that I have that I was a

919
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: part of that I was there physically present at and

920
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: I'll look on the you know, five hours after the

921
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: interview took place, and so and so said this, and

922
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, that's not what he meant when he

923
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: said something. But somebody picked up something that it just

924
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: it drives me greaty, It's it's it's it's just part

925
00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: of the business that.

926
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: And you can hatch it and chop up any sentence

927
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: and find a phrase that sounds different, you know, I mean,

928
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: it's there's there's no context involved with a lot of

929
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: that stuff, especially like on Twitter that's so few characters.

930
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, kids, you better get used

931
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: to it and pay attention to it, right because with

932
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: AI and everything.

933
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: It's only gonna it's only gonna get harder. It's only

934
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: gonna get harder to tell what's legit and what's not.

935
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: That's why you come here and listen to this show

936
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: because we are live on site.

937
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: Can tell you about the new grass in the backyard here.

938
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, interviews, Yeah, you can hear you can literally hear

939
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: the grounds crew going by every few minutes.

940
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the music we had to move from the

941
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: speaker there was ready on our head to begin with.

942
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: And good environment here though. I mean, I know we're

943
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 3: coming to the end of the show, but day one

944
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: there's not gonna be groundbreaking news or any of that

945
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But there's a good environment and there's

946
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: a lot of optimism. Yeah, a lot of enthusiasm, you know.

947
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: So I'm psyched to come back tomorrow.

948
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

949
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: And again, like I said, there is a lot of

950
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: this time of year. It's like the hurry up and

951
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: wait process.

952
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 6: It is.

953
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 4: You know, you get real excited for the combine to

954
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: get there, and then it's there, and it's kind of

955
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: a waiting game, and you get really excited for the

956
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: draft and free agency. It can kind of be a

957
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: waiting game. This is is similar, but like we said,

958
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: it's like we're at a big rock festival, Legends Legends

959
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: of rock en Roll or something and this is you know,

960
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: the first or second band on the bill that eventually

961
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: we're gonna get up the pearl jam, you know, the

962
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: regular season kickoff.

963
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: But that that's.

964
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: That's the it's it's syllabus.

965
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: You know, there's some syllabus week kind of examples in

966
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: there for the college students out there and those who

967
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: know what that's like.

968
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: But that's the exciting part about it.

969
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: A lot of these young men really haven't had a

970
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: position meeting yet to the NFL level. You know what,

971
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: what's my position? Coach? Trying to teach me? What do

972
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: I need to do?

973
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: All the exciting part is not what's DK Metcalf doing?

974
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: And is he there?

975
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: Right?

976
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: Like, the exciting part is we are getting close to

977
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: actually seeing DK Metcalf take real meaningful reps in the

978
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 4: Black and Goldie.

979
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's the that's the exciting part.

980
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

981
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: And so you know, it's just great to see them

982
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: back on the football field, right, That's all that's all

983
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to see today. All Right, We're okay, now,

984
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: we're this was we we just got up off the ground.

985
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: We're gonna start walking right right, Yeah, I'm done crawling

986
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: now We're gonna start actually taking some some baby steps.

987
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: You know, mini camp will be okay, now we're maybe

988
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna start to really he's really steady now and

989
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna start you know, by training camp you better

990
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: be start running a little bit.

991
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean, we're a long way from backs on backers

992
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: and one on one d line of line drills. You

993
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: know where they're going one hundred percent. You know, this

994
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: is learning how to get to that point.

995
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 5: We're so we're so in seeds.

996
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in seeds now that you hope, you know,

997
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna gonna get you some crops come come the

998
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 4: end of the summer.

999
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely doing the hard work.

1000
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, guys, anything that I know, we just said that

1001
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: a lot of this is meetings, but anything has stood

1002
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: out to you today? Hmmm.

1003
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: One thing I thought was kind of interesting. Rob King

1004
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: and I were chatting before where we went on the air.

1005
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: We were just sitting standing here next to the running

1006
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: back drills, and you know, there's Sermon and Hull. There's

1007
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: some guys that came into the league on this team

1008
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: that are pedigree. There was some pedigree that were big

1009
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: time college players that have had splash moments in the league.

1010
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 3: And with this running back group. I'm sure Johnson's gonna

1011
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: get plenty of attention, but I don't know the gain. Well,

1012
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: when Warren need a ton of reps at this point,

1013
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: you might find someone there that's really on the brink

1014
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: of career extinction, that has ability that might stick around

1015
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: for you, and they probably have to reinvent themselves a

1016
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 3: special teamers. But some of the bottom of the roster

1017
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: running backs I think will be fun talks, especially in

1018
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: camp when there's tackling and stuff like that, you know, preseason.

1019
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: How about this one for you for some we haven't discussed.

1020
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: Matt was talking about seeing the guys and the body

1021
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: types and all that, and I think Jack Sawyer looks

1022
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 4: the part.

1023
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 5: He checks, yeah, he checks, he checks.

1024
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: He looks like a grow like you guys, remember a

1025
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: couple of years ago we're out here and oh yeah,

1026
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 4: like you hear Darnell Washington's big. But then you see him, right,

1027
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: Jack Sawyer looks like he's in his start or fourth

1028
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 4: year in the NFL, has the build, has the body type.

1029
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: So that was that was like the contrast of him

1030
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: and her big next to each other and kind of

1031
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: their different frames.

1032
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: See why they wanted that you could.

1033
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: See why they want that particular guy is kind of

1034
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: the the other option off the bench.

1035
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Caleb Johnson wasn't as tall and as long as

1036
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: I expected, but there's not like an ounce of fat

1037
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: on his body either. I mean, he's his body type.

1038
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: Certainly checked the box for me too. Yeah, he looks

1039
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: the part. He does.

1040
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these guys, I mean, ya

1041
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: Black looks the part.

1042
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: And he mentioned that the running back drills are the

1043
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: closest thing to us too. Johnson's got a lot of enthusiasm,

1044
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: and I know he's saying he was a fun guy

1045
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: to talk to, and I think he's going to be

1046
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: a fan favorite around here.

1047
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 6: I do too.

1048
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be really really good, And yeah,

1049
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: fan favorite. The guy who's just the personality is is

1050
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: bubbly and and brash, and it just brings a little

1051
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: something extra to the position.

1052
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: And to pull back the curtain seeing the defense was harder,

1053
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: you know, like we haven't brought up harm in all

1054
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: that much because they're on the second thor or on

1055
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: the other side of our away and there's a bunch

1056
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 3: of human beings in between us. So it was more

1057
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: of an offensive focus for me, you know, I mean

1058
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: the old liners to my right. Running backs were right

1059
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: in front of us. The offense was still to the left,

1060
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: so it was harder to evaluate and really check out

1061
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: the defensive players.

1062
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 2: Guys, that's going to do it. They want our show

1063
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: today tomorrow. Line change, line change. Wesley Yuler will be

1064
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: replaced by Tom Opferman will also start at ten am

1065
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: as we as we're expected to do today until we

1066
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: had some technical difficulties. But for Wesley Euler, for Matt Williamson,

1067
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: for Rob King who stopped by. We want to thank

1068
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Troy Fiotano, the Steelers PR staff bringing Troy over here

1069
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: to speak with us as well. And we want to

1070
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: thank Justin Miller back in the studio making sure we

1071
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: stay on the air. I'm dale Lly. We appreciate you

1072
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: listening to our live coverage here today from the Steelers

1073
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: Ota Sessions at the upmc rooney Sports Complex. We will

1074
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: be back again tomorrow. See you then,