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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Price Joe Elliott blowing the line, Scots and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. There is nothing dangerous about thinking crazy things,

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we're gonna do, straight out of

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Speaker 1: the mouth of Jerry Jones. Here the next hour, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna think some crazy things on Talking Cowboys. It is

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Speaker 1: Draft week at the Star in First go in the

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Speaker 1: s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: het Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans, and we are fresh

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Speaker 1: off the pre draft press conference a little bit later

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Speaker 1: today than are no normal talking Tuesday time slot, but

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Speaker 1: Rob lots to talk about from the pre draft press conference.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Taco Charlton was a selection straight from Steven Jones.

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Speaker 1: There was a Taco reference. There was a Taco Charles

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes. Yes, I don't know if that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing to joke about. It was. It was a

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Speaker 1: jab man dab straight up jab talk about the draft

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Speaker 1: plenty is of course we are just under or just around.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's Taco Tuesday. Hit the hit the Mario sound

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Speaker 1: for yourself there it is, Rob, What what did you

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Speaker 1: get out of the press conference? And you actually went

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Speaker 1: to the walk off as well? There was no walk off.

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Speaker 1: There was no walk off. You didn't miss anything. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you're saying the Cowboys gonna get crazy on Thursday nights.

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Speaker 1: That which sounds like that is that? It was that

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Speaker 1: a quote directly from jeffs directly. There's nothing dangerous about

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Speaker 1: thinking crazy things. Apparently they've been running through the scenarios

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Speaker 1: about trading up, trading down, drowned one, round two, round three,

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Speaker 1: they've done it all to this point. Apparently they always

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Speaker 1: do that. They always do that and look like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to be a cynic here, but do it.

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Speaker 1: These pre draft press conferences are what they are like

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Speaker 1: they they're there's some gamesmanship being played every year during

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Speaker 1: this and it's always about forty five minutes and there's

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Speaker 1: useful information that comes out of it, but there's a

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Speaker 1: on a certain level, they're not going to give us

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Speaker 1: anything you know. I mean, Mike McCarthy was asked about

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Speaker 1: certain positions breaking down positions. He just flat said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. Uh. You know, Stephen

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Speaker 1: Jones was asked about certain interior offensive linemen that we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that David did ask that question. It was

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Speaker 1: David Moore. There was a Todd I think it was Todd.

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Speaker 1: I was like, somebody's getting straight to the point, and

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Speaker 1: Stephen just you know, Dwight Powell rejected that into the

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Speaker 1: third roads that we're not going to talk about. Go MAVs, baby,

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Speaker 1: go MAVs. Um so like. But but that being said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're There were some some good items

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Speaker 1: I took out of it was sure, twenty four could

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Speaker 1: be some nice players available, but we could trade up,

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Speaker 1: or hell, we could trade down. You know, they're not

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Speaker 1: ruling anything out, and that's usually how these press conferences go.

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Speaker 1: Not ruling anything out, but also not showing your hand

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Speaker 1: is ultimately what it is, right, and they didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: do either one of those things. Throughout Isaiah, I know,

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Speaker 1: you were listening to anything stick out to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean just sounds like I mean, you know your

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Speaker 1: to your point, Rob. I mean, you can dive into

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Speaker 1: think that this, the rhetoric than language around this press

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Speaker 1: of leading you to believe that Dallas is more willing

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Speaker 1: to move around in this year's draft and draft and

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Speaker 1: they have in recent years. And I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: thinking about who's going to get drafted. I think that

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Speaker 1: it for me today when he started talking about how

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Speaker 1: they're not done yet, free agency is not done. How

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Speaker 1: players you know, obviously we know who's available in free agency,

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Speaker 1: he said, not just the draft picks. But so that

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Speaker 1: along with those draft picks well traded, Like to your point,

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Speaker 1: training camp now. Stephen is committed to not making any

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Speaker 1: hasty decisions this offseason, and all of his decisions have

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Speaker 1: pretty much yelled that. But just looking off at all

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Speaker 1: Jerry made the point that in draft's past he's been

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Speaker 1: his experience with drafts being that this is really unfamiliar

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Speaker 1: it really really kind of speaks to how new Mike

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was excellent. That's that's you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: so that's that's a big part of it. And Jerry

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Speaker 1: they're they're not gonna know. They didn't know Michael Parsons

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Speaker 1: So much of this is difficult because they're like, like

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Speaker 1: And Stephen even talked about guys that have six years

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Speaker 1: And that's where that was useful information, really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't expect them to say how many first

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Speaker 1: And if they only have the fourteen to sixteen first

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Speaker 1: that regard, you know, I'm not a country music guy

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Speaker 1: Why not do that? But if you have five or

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Speaker 1: I hear we heard part of it. You want to

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Speaker 1: hear how it went? Go for it? Okay, so Arnold

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Speaker 1: Ebba Katie was the pick at number twenty four out

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Speaker 1: of Penn State edge rusher, but it was Kansas City

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Speaker 1: that made that pick because we traded down to pick

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Speaker 1: number twenty nine. We picked up one twenty one and

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick who we later used on Cade York,

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Speaker 1: and we took Kenyon Green at number twenty nine, offensive

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Speaker 1: guard out of Texas. So we traded back, traded back,

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Speaker 1: went from twenty four to twenty nine and made that

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Speaker 1: work from there. So that's how we ended up working. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's not a bad thing to think of

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Speaker 1: crazy things. As Jerry Jones likes to say, it's my

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Speaker 1: favorite line. I'm gonna use that all week long. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you right now, all right, let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at some positional sneaky needs. Dollar sign quote? He had

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Speaker 1: what was that one? The dollar sign quote? It has

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Speaker 1: anything to do with a dollar sign and then it

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Speaker 1: comes and it comes through me. I decide, and if

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Speaker 1: it comes in and if it goes out, I'm responsible.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what he's say. You're Jerry Jones impression. Yes

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Speaker 1: it is. It's pretty good. Actually, there you go, all

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Speaker 1: right under the radar draft needs. How crucial is it

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to find some depth at these positions.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with HECKM. Harrison on this one because

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Speaker 1: I know you feel some sort of way about this

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Speaker 1: linebacker position. How important is it? Because if you look

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Speaker 1: up against maybe edge rusher, wide receiver, offensive line, it

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Speaker 1: may not be the top need in the draft, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty crucial that the Cowboys come out with at

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Speaker 1: least one linebacker at some point. But where do you

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Speaker 1: see them going to a linebacker first? So let's just

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Speaker 1: say we have Lvee, Luca Gifford, Michael Parsons, and Jabril

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Speaker 1: Cox and DeVante Bond. Those are high linebackers right now.

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Speaker 1: We obviously know that we're gonna move Michael parsons around.

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Speaker 1: Jabril Cox is coming off of the ACL, so that

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Speaker 1: a lot of question marks around that. But we are

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Speaker 1: really light at the position we should have. We could

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Speaker 1: have gotten a baller. We didn't go out and get

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Speaker 1: that guy. He ended up going to the Rams. However,

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Speaker 1: in this draft you have an opportunity to go out

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Speaker 1: and get a guy, and I believe in Nakobe Dean

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Speaker 1: would be the guy that I would be going. He's

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Speaker 1: really just a quintessential linebacker and you need a dude

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Speaker 1: in the middle to hold it down. And just the

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Speaker 1: linebacker and position in general has changed because you want

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Speaker 1: your linebacker to be able to carry tight ends and

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Speaker 1: also cover running backs on the hash marks. So it's

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Speaker 1: not just like back in the day you know thick neck,

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Speaker 1: big neck, brac and all that, and you just in

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Speaker 1: the A and B gap the whole time of those

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Speaker 1: you do you do exactly. You do have one of those,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's another guy that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: little bit better in Dan Quinn's system. But when you

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Speaker 1: have when you have the kind of speed that's out

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Speaker 1: there at the linebacker position, you need a guy to

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Speaker 1: be able to do that. In Dan Quinn's defense because

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Speaker 1: he asked a lot of his linebackers. Now, I know

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Speaker 1: y'all talked about this a little bit last week as

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Speaker 1: well when I was out, But you're okay spending a

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Speaker 1: first round pick on linebacker over offensive line or is

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Speaker 1: this just if you're wiped out at offensive line and

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Speaker 1: there's other needs out there? So I was just going

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Speaker 1: back to what Isaiah was saying earlier, and he's saying that, Look,

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Speaker 1: you know you need an offensive lineman, but I don't

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Speaker 1: have these offensive linemen as high up as a lot

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Speaker 1: of other people do, especially the guard. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: looking at tackle because if I get a tackle and

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith can play, oh he playing, Tyren Smith playing,

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Speaker 1: and Terren Steele has already proved, you've gotten rid of

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Speaker 1: guys to have Terren Steel. So that's why I feel

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Speaker 1: like Zion Johnson and Green. I just feel like they're

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Speaker 1: in a situation because there aren't a lot of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this draft that they've benefited from that, and that's

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Speaker 1: why teams are jumping out of the cake to get

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Speaker 1: them in the first round. I think with the third

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Speaker 1: and fourth round you can still get quality offensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: I know people don't think that you can, but because

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Speaker 1: of the development in college, you may be able to

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Speaker 1: do that. That's all I'm saying. So back to what

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Speaker 1: Jerry said, if I could get a Michael Parsons, I'm

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Speaker 1: not calling the Kobe Dan Michael Parsons, but I'm saying

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Speaker 1: the way that he feels that gap for you on defense,

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Speaker 1: you could definitely get you a stud from for the

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Speaker 1: future and also be able to satisfy some of your

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Speaker 1: needs on the offensive line in the second and third round.

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Speaker 1: I have the Kobe Dean ahead of Devin Lloyd as

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Speaker 1: well on my board, but Devin Lloyd seems like he

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Speaker 1: may be more of a fit from a size standpoint

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Speaker 1: and a player standpoint. Six foot two, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty seven pounds for Devin Lloyd out of Utah as

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Speaker 1: opposed to the Kobe Dean who's five eleven. How much

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Speaker 1: does that play into your factor? If you're in that

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Speaker 1: room talking with Dan Quinn and he's standing on the

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Speaker 1: table for a linebacker. Kid, When you evaluated Lloyd, did

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Speaker 1: you think that he was kind of Michael Parson ish

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Speaker 1: the way that they Yeah, I mean I just saw

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Speaker 1: a similarity Michael Parson. No, No, let's not get I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about scheme. I'm talking about scheme the way that

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Speaker 1: they use. He does. He does a lot of those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeaht of them. I love that. Yeah, I love I

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Speaker 1: love it too. But I already I already have one

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Speaker 1: of those, and I already have a tank. And what

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Speaker 1: I need is a real linebacker. I need a guy

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Speaker 1: that I can say, when they come out with this

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Speaker 1: read option offense, that my linebacker can cover and do

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Speaker 1: all of the heavy things that I need my linebacker

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Speaker 1: to do. I mean, this kid is talented. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta flip a coin now, you can't go

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Speaker 1: wrong either way. So, heck is okay going the first round?

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Speaker 1: I already got a tank. I already got a bazook guy.

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Speaker 1: Are you okay? First round? Like? Heck to the NOA

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Speaker 1: NOA no, because this team is never going to get

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Speaker 1: past where they went this year unless they can move

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Speaker 1: the ball. That's just facts. Jordan Davis is not going

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Speaker 1: to be available to you, all right. You don't know

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to be available. You don't know

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Speaker 1: he go he works for everybody's team. Okay, So there's no, no,

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Speaker 1: there's no okay, doesn't work for our steam. You go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you wet dream. He's not gonna be there. So that's

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Speaker 1: one guy that you can. You would trade away a

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Speaker 1: lot of picks to go grab that guy. He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be there, Okay, win at fourteen to the ravens

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Speaker 1: in our see him going that low? I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: he will, but I don't. I just don't see it

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Speaker 1: happening because because he fits everywhere. Devonte Wire by the

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Speaker 1: way went nineteen to the same A man, A man

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Speaker 1: can wet dream. You can. You need an old lineman?

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Speaker 1: Need need I don't care what missus Stephen Jones said,

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Speaker 1: you need an old lineman. Now do you reach and

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Speaker 1: go get online? You don't reach for it, right, but

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Speaker 1: you also can't expect it to fall to you. So

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Speaker 1: if you have to move up and grab him, six

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Speaker 1: seven picks more than you know, higher than what you

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Speaker 1: wanted to secure the bag. Because guess what inventory is

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Speaker 1: low right now, there's a lot of stuff sitting out

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Speaker 1: there the middle of the ocean. You might have to

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Speaker 1: pay a couple more dollars to go out there and

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Speaker 1: grab something that you need. So you need to go

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Speaker 1: grab that guy if he's around. I agree with you

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Speaker 1: because philosophy agree that you can. Our defense played amazing

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, they played well, they played amazing this

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Speaker 1: past year, and it still didn't get you anywhere. So

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Speaker 1: if you because you didn't run the ball, because you

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Speaker 1: can throw the ball the way in which you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: So everything always reverts back to, I know, defense wins

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Speaker 1: championships with guess what offense gets you past the first round?

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Speaker 1: Isn't crazy how much things can flip in a year

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Speaker 1: because last year Isaiah was standing on the table saying,

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Speaker 1: get defense, get defense, defense, and the offense is going

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. And now this year it's vice versa.

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Speaker 1: Now you said Valentine's Day when he mentioned the guards,

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Speaker 1: do you think do you consider those guys you're Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day guards where they haven't Because I think Kenyan Green

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Speaker 1: was at some point in this draft process, very early on,

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Speaker 1: was thought as a top fifteen pick. He wasn't even

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Speaker 1: thought about being available at twenty four. He has since

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Speaker 1: slipped a little bit. Maybe that's because of guys elevating

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Speaker 1: and because of some of those Valentine's Day guys that

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Speaker 1: are just kind of working's favor. But my whole thing

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Speaker 1: is is does this fit the scheme? I think he's

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Speaker 1: a zone guy. I think he can definitely do a

639
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Speaker 1: lot of those things. Um, look, inline blocking, I'm looking forward.

640
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: What you're talking about? Can the guy fire off? Is

641
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: he doing all of those things? I saw Green move

642
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: around a lot, so when tackle guard all of that

643
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and of necessity last year, right and and and I'm

644
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: not and I'm not that's that's not then any dirt

645
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: on him. I'm just basically saying the grade that they're

646
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: giving him and the kid from ball. I just don't

647
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: see Zion Johnson how they're going that high. I think

648
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: if any other any draft that you have and you

649
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: have the right mixture of playmakers and all that, these

650
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: are guys that are late late first early second round guys.

651
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like it to your philosophy

652
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: and your point, if I can trade back or I

653
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: can get trade up in the second round and get

654
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: a guy like that, I do it. I have the

655
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: picks in the fourth we we got nine picks. We

656
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: got nine picks, so it's not if we can go

657
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: up and get into Kobe Dean. He's a game changer,

658
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: he's a playmaker. Get that. That's for your future. But

659
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: this guard stuff, I mean, come on, man, they I

660
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 1: believe there's plenty of those guys in this draft. That's

661
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. But your philosophy is right. If you

662
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: want to move the ball, if you want to be

663
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: able to pass the ball, you better have a damn

664
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: offensive line to get it done. Yeah, Isaiah, And I

665
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: gotta roll with Isaiah on this one because I that's

666
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: how I felt the whole way based on the last

667
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: game that we saw, Dak wasn't protected enough and they

668
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: could run the ball the last quarter at least of

669
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: the season, last half of the season, probably half. Yeah,

670
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: And I just feel like if you've and yeah, you

671
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: don't want to reach because best player variable has worked

672
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: out well for them the last two years in the

673
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: first round, absolutely Ceede. Lamb has been a very good player.

674
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: They're expecting him to develop into a great player, multi

675
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls type of receiver. You know, Mica transform your

676
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: defense in one year. You know, I didn't even play

677
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: his last year at college, so BPA has worked out

678
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: for them. But I do lean towards offensive line and

679
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: finding one early because you you would like to have

680
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: a walk in starter, check that box. And add some

681
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: strength and some some size upfront to help Tyler Beardish

682
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: at center ideally. So it's crazy. You know that that

683
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: kid you were talking about Lyndstrom, and I just kind

684
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: of like that Alec Lindstrom. Yeah, from my round. Oh no, Linderm.

685
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I've been calling so many names, Lindam of them. Yeah, Dbaum,

686
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: I went watched him. He is a dog, dude. I'm

687
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: telling you, he is a Put him on the field

688
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: right now. He can go player, right there's no that

689
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a reach if you got him, you know,

690
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: and I've been against it, but then you're watching exactly

691
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Can we get a guy that

692
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: can play? But that still doesn't help us with our

693
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: guard position. We need a guard especially. No one is

694
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: counting on kind of MC government to be that guy

695
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think we're confident in there. I

696
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: absolutely love like your whole thought process here, because at

697
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: this point in the draft process it feels like Cowboys

698
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: fans and I mean we're all guilty of this too,

699
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: being draft analysts, we're kind of pigeon holing offensive guards

700
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the pick at twenty four. That's not necessarily the case.

701
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: There's so many different ways you could go. And a

702
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: linebacker with Devin Lloyd and and Kobe Dean both being there,

703
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: are certainly going to be in the conversation. They were

704
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: both available for that mock draft earlier today, not only

705
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: at twenty four, but then they were both gone by

706
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: the time we picked at twenty nine. So I mean

707
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: it's a conversation to be had about the linebacker spot

708
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: because you're not set there for the future either. No,

709
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you bring up that's a that's a great point because

710
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: I go back to two years ago, nobody thought they

711
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: should take a receiver in the first round. Really linebacker either.

712
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, corner was the position, and if and if

713
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: either JC Horn or Certan had been there, I think

714
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: that would have been would have worked out just fine

715
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. But you're right, like they could wind

716
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: up doing something none of us expected. I'm just when

717
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: I do these mock drafts. I mean, we got one

718
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: more coming this week, and a couple of weeks ago

719
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: we had ours on the website. I'm basic. I'm basic

720
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: with my mocks. I just go down and based off

721
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: of needs. That's my style. Okay, guarded Russia wide receiver,

722
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: you want it, you asked about underrated needs, I would

723
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: put tight end in that in that group. Give me

724
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: that's fourth round, kind of a Schultze area. That's where

725
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: they got him, you know, to add to that depth

726
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: like that's where I go. But but you're right, like

727
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: they can go in a lot of different directions. I

728
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: do want to hit some of those other under the

729
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: radar needs. We've got about like eight or nine minutes

730
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: until we hit that second break. What about running back?

731
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: How late or how early do you take a running back? Isaiah?

732
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Because Tony Pollard's not a guarantee after twenty twenty two, technically,

733
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: neither is Ezekiel Elliott moving forward after this season, you

734
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: might have some question marks at running back? Do you

735
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: take one? Where? Where do you take one? Where would

736
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable? Fifth in the fifth? Okay, that's a

737
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: realistic cancer. Where would you feel right? It would be

738
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: way later than that. I mean, we took one in

739
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: the fifth today. We took Brian Robinson Junior out of Alabama.

740
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: Good player, tough runner, all around back, can catch out

741
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: of the backfield. He gonna play special teams. Yeah, I

742
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: keep hearing his DN talk. Okay, I don't know, I

743
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: don't want to switch it up on you. I keep

744
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: hearing his DN talk a lot. That's pretty much a

745
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: specific need. I don't. I don't feel that necessity. I don't.

746
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what Dante Fowler Junior and

747
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Dorance Armstre I'm comfortable with DQ having talent to utilize

748
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: and be able to move around. I'm very confident in

749
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Dcu's ability to be able to skiing things up. As

750
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: long as you have talented guys that have a freaking engine,

751
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I'm confident in, And I

752
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: think having there aren't that many mano imano, I'm gonna

753
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: beat you down, I'm gonna win every single time type

754
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: of guys in this league. There just aren't that many

755
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: guys at that position anymore. And so I don't feel

756
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: the necessity even I mean even obviously we were lost

757
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: RG like, I don't. I didn't see him as that guy.

758
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: I saw him as a guy that can when he

759
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: when you really needed him to, when you really need

760
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: him be like when he was pissed off. Like when

761
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: he was pissed off, Oh he'll get off in your

762
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: tail now. But he needed to be pissed off right.

763
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: So I agree with what Jerry said today in terms

764
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: of I'd rather have two guys and said it at

765
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: one guy there. How many of those guys are there

766
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: really in this league that you're just fearful when your

767
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: tackle lines up across from him? Well, they they, I mean,

768
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: they thought Randy was coming back, like they had that

769
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: deal yea almost done done. They wanted him back. I mean,

770
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: and I I hear you. I mean and and I'm

771
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, gan Quinn found a way, Hey,

772
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Michael part since week two go play edge rusher. That

773
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: worked out pretty well. He knows his player's talent. So

774
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm with you there. I just I wish we could

775
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: have seen more snaps than the handful of snaps we

776
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: saw of Tank, Randy, Gregory and Mica on the field together.

777
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: That was I mean, to me, it's not the same thing,

778
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: but it's almost like I wish we could have seen

779
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie Kde together. I'm just saying Ben Simmons stop next year,

780
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: but but that's I do think Randy showed enough flashes

781
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: of being kind of just that game wrecker and and

782
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: they could use another edge rusher in this draft, in

783
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: my opinion, to help Washington against But I mean, but

784
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: it was. But to get that guy. History shows you

785
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: got a draft and edge rusher early to get that guy.

786
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: We referenced Tacco earlier. Tacco is a first round draft

787
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: pick l overall that didn't work out because if you're great,

788
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: if you're Micah Parsons, you're gonna go early. I'm I

789
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I'm more of a maybe I'm just

790
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: a boring GM you are, But I want to I

791
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: want to control. Where's the game control? Because your old

792
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: school in your approach. Listen here, man, where is the

793
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: game control? It's a line of scrimmage, line of freaking scrimmage,

794
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: without a doubt. If you own the d line, if

795
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: you own the offensive line, you always have a shot. Always.

796
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: Where did the Cowboys struggle this pass? Freaking in the trenches?

797
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: But you're not worried about that though, Well, I'm not

798
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: worried about the ends. Control the middle, right, I have

799
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: speed at the at Michael Parsons, it, d Law and

800
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: all these guys. I got speed on the chance. Your point, though,

801
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: is no, no, no, no. If you're going to grab

802
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: a defensive player, right, it needs to be an interior

803
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: defensive Linement. That's a complete doll. Okay, and I don't

804
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: think that dog is gonna be there, or let's play,

805
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: let's play for tend here for a little bit. Then

806
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau somehow falls to fifteen cowboys are gonna trade up.

807
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: But also Jordan Davis is available. I'm going to get

808
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. You're not gonna get Cavon Thibodeau. Who has

809
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: a chance to fall, has a chance to slip a little.

810
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I want to get Jordan Davis. Wow, because without hesitation,

811
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: without hesitation, if I have a shot, if somehow, some

812
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: way he's sitting around it, I am. I'm signing off

813
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: on trade up and get him. Aidan Hutchinson, I don't

814
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: know enough about Jordan Davis. I don't I like Jordan

815
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. Will he will clog it up. Listen here,

816
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: both guys, hey first pick in the draft. Baby wipes,

817
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: non disposable baby wipes. Okay, Jordan Davis clogging it up.

818
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: That will clogging, that will happen, Non biodegradable, that's for sure.

819
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: He's clogging it up for your future. Okay, just know

820
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: that two different types of baby wipes out here is biodegradable,

821
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: and there's not. Kay, he is the not non biodegradable.

822
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: What he is gonna clog it up? I'm looking and

823
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: guess what. Guess guess and guess what If they decide

824
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: to go outside because he's in there clogging it up,

825
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: he is gonna have the go juice to also join

826
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: the party along with Michael Parson's Curse and the rest

827
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: of the cats, which do what am I doing? You

828
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: are putting sprinkles on my ice cream? Okay, but I'm

829
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: talking to him. Damn, I apologize, I'm talking to him down.

830
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Don't listen to the shot. It's eleven on eleven and

831
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: you got one guy that's taking up three guys. I mean, hey,

832
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not good at math, but come on, I'm okay

833
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: signing off. I'm moving up to get him. But this

834
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: defensive in talk, I'm just I'm not on board with it.

835
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm personally not like. I like your thoughts process, but

836
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: I still think you're out of your mind without with

837
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: putting Jordan Davis on basically the number one spot. Well,

838
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: if you do that, though, if you trade it up

839
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: to get a clog guy, the way to go got

840
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: through because you're not getting your guard. You're not getting there.

841
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's only two people that I'm

842
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: going up to, two positions I'm going up to trade for.

843
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 1: It doesn't even its JD right, I need big dogs,

844
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: okay off top or I need it. I'm close enough

845
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: right within. If I'm obviously we're sitting at twenty four

846
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: and we're down the say sixteen seventeen, and that guard

847
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: is sitting there, and I'm looking at the other team's

848
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Speaker 1: needs ahead of me, I'm like, you're probably not have

849
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Speaker 1: to drive, You're probably not gonna have to draft the

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Speaker 1: guard tight. I'm not. I'mably gonna be what I'm saying.

851
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Speaker 1: But if there's if there's that guy, if there's that

852
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Speaker 1: guard that you're like, hey, I can't miss on this

853
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Speaker 1: and something, and you're hearing something that he's five six

854
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Speaker 1: picks away, I go secure the bag. I don't know

855
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Speaker 1: if they go secure to back. I know, I know

856
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Speaker 1: it's whole speculation everything we're talking about, but I'd rather

857
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather go secure that bag than the hope that

858
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Speaker 1: it falls down to me. Right when you're in that

859
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Speaker 1: position and you have a need, Mister Stephen Jones, Okay,

860
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: you have a need, you go and you see you've

861
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: sealed the deal, and then you worry about the rest

862
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: of it because guess what, there's plenty of other depth

863
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: in this particular into draft. Yeah, I would, I would

864
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: trade back before I would trade up. And that's not

865
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Speaker 1: having a clue what your board is gonna look like,

866
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: what's available, who's affordable to you at that point. But

867
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Speaker 1: I just and maybe I'm just thinking of and you

868
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Speaker 1: guys did that this morning, but what they said about

869
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: if they really feel like third through three through five,

870
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: it's deep. You only have three top one hundred picks

871
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: in this draft. You're gonna give up one to move up,

872
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: and then you only have your I don't know your

873
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: third round pick left, or instead of trading back and

874
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: you can get two threes, you keep your your two

875
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: and now you're if you hit on guys, now, now

876
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: you're building some depth there. Well, that's what I'm talking

877
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Speaker 1: about in terms of hitting him, in terms when you

878
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: know that there's that's your guy, like that's your car, right,

879
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: that's right, you can't miss fourteen or is one of

880
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: the fourteen to sixteen guys he's within grasp, don't freaking

881
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: let it go through your fingers. Okay, don't let him

882
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: be saying close the dog on fingers. Go grab that

883
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: dog on thing and bring them into your or to

884
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: your team because you need him. You need him in

885
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: order for your team to be effective. You know, that's

886
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: your guy. Those those that's the two positions that I'm

887
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: saying in this first round that you go and you

888
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: grab if you're going to make a move like that,

889
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't require you going to sealing somebody from an

890
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: existing team. Let's say there's two options only for the Cowboys,

891
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: either trade up or trade down. I would put trading

892
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: down as an eighty twenty possibility over the fact of

893
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: maybe trading up after the first round, though I think

894
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: that nearly flipp flips. It'd probably be seventy five twenty

895
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: five to go back up after the first round is over,

896
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: just based off of the things we're hearing and basically

897
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: the needs for the Cowboys and where they could fit

898
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: moving forward. You mean trade back into the first trade up,

899
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: in the second trade up, in the third trade up,

900
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: in the fourth, something like that along the way. I

901
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: think it's more likely they go up in the later rounds,

902
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: but down in the first round. I like what you said, Rob,

903
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Speaker 1: because I think the value add in any draft, especially

904
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Speaker 1: if you can be smart and make those middle of

905
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: the round, middle round picks, is better for you as

906
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: a football team. We've seen the Patriots be able to

907
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: do things like that, and there's continuously doing it. But

908
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: I think the back to what you were saying, Isaiah,

909
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: with the ass rushers, I just think the NFL, those

910
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: are the highlight positions. Who's making the most money the

911
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: ads rushings? Why do they make the most money because

912
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: they are putting pressure on the quarterback. Tj Y. I mean,

913
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: is a guy you could give me twenty sacks and

914
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: you can control the line of scrimmage. Pittsburgh still has

915
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: what it takes core nucleus to make a move. All

916
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: they need now is a quarterback to make that thing go.

917
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: So you know, for us, that's why I tank and Micah.

918
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Speaker 1: You have those edge rushers, the guys that you could

919
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: put out there get after it and if you can

920
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: bring in another guy or you have a guy like

921
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: that already on your team, that bash them armstrong and

922
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and think about those guys is every last one of

923
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: them are rotational guys. Dan Quinn is bringing these guys

924
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Speaker 1: in and out. And if you have that power, that's

925
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: why the top of this draft you see guys like

926
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson, you see guys like Walker because teams need

927
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: to threaten you by having a pass rush to get

928
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Speaker 1: out of you. So and by the way, you mentioned

929
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Speaker 1: t J. Watt every time. Every year around this time,

930
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: it just feels like it just turns a little no. No,

931
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Speaker 1: you gotta live with that. You gotta slip in that

932
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Speaker 1: bed real quickly, super quickly. Any thought to drafting backup

933
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: quarterback on Day three anywhere? Potentially Kellen Moore was in

934
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Speaker 1: Iowa State, maybe looking at Brock Purdy as like a

935
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Speaker 1: late round guy and he boughts there, feel good with

936
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Speaker 1: will greuse your backup? Cooper Rush as your backup? Yeah,

937
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm all about competition at the quarterback. Okay, that's all

938
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Speaker 1: we need to tell you. All Right, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give our first round predictions for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna give a bold NFL draft prediction. What's

941
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Speaker 1: That was nice because you bumped your mic away and

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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming. I'm just saying we are

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Speaker 1: now a year because I got them right before the

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Speaker 1: draft last year. I need another pair of shades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I go, I'll take care of everybody. Oh Phillips

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Speaker 1: and click that. Let's go shades. That will be Rob

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Speaker 1: p Let's go, all right, Isaiah stand back, heck my Harrison,

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Speaker 1: Rob p Island himself, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam in the back is always glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking cowboys. It's time to make some predictions, y'all,

995
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Speaker 1: and I want to start with bold NFL predictions. This

996
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Speaker 1: does not have to do with the Cowboys. It can

997
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Speaker 1: be literally anything else happening in the NFL Draft or

998
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Speaker 1: at least on Draft weekend. It can involve current players,

999
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: involves current picks, involved anything along the way, but not

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Speaker 1: Cowboys related. And it's a bold predictions. Something crazy it's

1001
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: not a bad thing to think about crazy things. Rob.

1002
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with us with that love that quote

1003
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Speaker 1: God I'm living by. I'm gonna put it on an

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Speaker 1: think differently. I was gonna say, you're about to be stable.

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Speaker 1: I got a stable married man. I got another year.

1006
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Speaker 1: We're fine. Let's get all right. Is there a date

1007
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: that we haven't heard about? You? There is? You want

1008
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Speaker 1: to announce it? If I did, I did put a

1009
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Speaker 1: date on it, May seventh of twenty twenty three, Big date,

1010
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Speaker 1: May seventh, May seventh, Baby. Yeah, all right, Rob, we're

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00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna start with you. Bold predictions on NFL Draft weekend

1012
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: for the league, for the league. Okay, we talked about

1013
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: trading back. I don't know what the record is, but

1014
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I'll say a let's say five teams trade back in

1015
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: the first round because they just don't like the depth

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00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: in the opening round five. There was a reporter around

1017
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Speaker 1: that earlier that teams are looking to vacate their draft area, right,

1018
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Speaker 1: Pelli sero, Peli sero? So he he report? Did it?

1019
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: Do you have any teams that look like they would

1020
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Speaker 1: do something like that, like anybody in mind that you

1021
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: would think would be totally in for that, not necessarily,

1022
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Speaker 1: just maybe just from the perspective of what we talked about.

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Speaker 1: The grades, however, well, I will say Cowboys picked twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I would venture to say most drafts they don't have

1025
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: twenty four first round grades in a given year anyway,

1026
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: So um, it doesn't mean they have Oh we got

1027
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: a trade up to get a guy, but it's it's

1028
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: a possibility, right, Cassability. Let's see, let's let's just get crazy.

1029
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: Let's get a bunch of teams trade back, trading back.

1030
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Speaker 1: Do you guys have a team that you think would vacate?

1031
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: He just threw the whole blew the whole thing out

1032
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Speaker 1: of the water. He just came with a whole historical fact.

1033
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Speaker 1: I mean I was thinking, like, yeah, prediction something simply

1034
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the record, the archive, what the

1035
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Speaker 1: record is, but I bet I bet that would be

1036
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Speaker 1: a record. I just feel like the Jets, because they

1037
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Speaker 1: have so many first round picks. I think they have

1038
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Speaker 1: three first round picks, that they are the team that

1039
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: probably are going to get the most calls and then

1040
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: probably the most likely to allow a team to trade up.

1041
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: And I think if I'm looking at teams New Orleans

1042
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: is a team that's going to try and do get

1043
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: a splash pick and it may be a quarterback there, Yeah,

1044
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: to go up. And that's that's my only that's my or.

1045
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: And I guess the second one would be Green Bay

1046
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: does something crazy because they gotta get Aaron Rodgerson weapons. Okay, yeah,

1047
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: it's it's not a typical trade up because you got

1048
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback draft, I don't think unless there's

1049
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: teams that are just in love with a certain prospect,

1050
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not the class where five quarterbacks

1051
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: to go in the first twelve picks, you know, where

1052
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: teams are willing to trade up to do that. Okay,

1053
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: that's what makes this That's what makes this first round

1054
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Speaker 1: a little weird, Isaiah. What's your bold prediction of happening

1055
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: this weekend? I see multiple star players for teams getting traded. Okay,

1056
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: that's what that's what I see. Um. I don't know

1057
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: if we can say particular names or not, but I

1058
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: mean you're making a bold prediction. It's not like you

1059
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: know anything got you. Okay, So, like like I say,

1060
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, I think I think he gets traded. Oh yeah,

1061
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some big names like that

1062
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: that get moved around. Guys that are kind of disgruntled

1063
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: with their organizations that chances are they're probably not going

1064
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: to sign back the following year. I think those guys

1065
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: get moved around. Okay, I've got a specific one that's

1066
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: kind of right up that alley. Okay, how about Baker Mayfield.

1067
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: And you're gonna love this. Baker Mayfield. It's gonna be

1068
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: a Seattle Seahawk. By the end of the weekend. Seattle's

1069
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna trade their forty first overall pick to Cleveland because

1070
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland does not have a first round pick, They're gonna

1071
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: take their second. Because Seattle picks back to back in

1072
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: the second round, they pick forty and forty one, They're

1073
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna ship one of those picks to Cleveland for Baker

1074
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Mayfield and he will be your quarterback. There's there's a

1075
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: great move in I see. I agree. I'm making this

1076
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: up as I go. So if there's anything back behind that,

1077
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a high probably the fact that he

1078
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: hasn't gone anywhere yet. Yeah, and they don't have a

1079
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: pick that they're gonna use on a quarterback either, So

1080
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: that's why I chose. Yeah, there's a high problem. That's

1081
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: my bold prediction that he's gonna be You heard something,

1082
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Can I confirm nordction? Oh wait, I'm on this. Let's go.

1083
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: The rumors are happening already. And you know what. I

1084
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: feel bad for Baker, I really do. I don't like

1085
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: the way that Baker got done. I mean, they gave

1086
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: they gave Deshaun Watson a twenty three million, two hundred

1087
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: and thirty six million dollars guaranteed contract. But I understand

1088
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: on the roster, I understand the thoughts process of Deshaun

1089
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: Watson over Baker Mayfield. But they did kind of do

1090
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: Baker dirty in the fact that he took them to

1091
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: a playoff appearance for the first time and god knows

1092
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: alcohol business man, and then they immediately turned on him.

1093
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: He had injuries. They put him out there injured all

1094
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: year long. He played through it, tough through it, and

1095
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: then he's just I know, but here you laughed at him.

1096
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: They don't back in. Heck up, they don't feel bad

1097
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: for Baker too. You're on the team, you're asking for

1098
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: a contract, and then something happened where another guy comes

1099
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: free and you signed him for a guaranteed contract. Why

1100
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: you're still on the roster. First of all, the speculation

1101
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: took place. Second of all, they said oh no, no, no, no.

1102
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: Once once Watson said that he wasn't going there anymore,

1103
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: he was like, oh you're come on back guy, Oh

1104
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: he's available. All yeah, get going gone, get gonna get

1105
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: and welcome to the NFL. Now that's cold. I ain't

1106
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: no matter how you look at all the fans out

1107
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: there there are wondering why guys are trying to get

1108
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: their guaranteed money. Boom boom, there you go. I'm back.

1109
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: I won't Baker to get some get back, but he will.

1110
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's that guaranteed portion. Boy. I was like, god,

1111
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: t th Wow, that's that's interesting man. All right, what's

1112
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: your bold prediction? Heck I made it? What was I

1113
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: wasn't move up? I said, Green Bay get to New Orleans.

1114
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I thought you were just kind of

1115
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: adding on. No, that's I think that's a bold as

1116
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: bold as you can get. Is moving up. Seattle's moving up.

1117
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: I think New Orleans would move up with the Jets

1118
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: to try and secure a quarterback. I think that's what

1119
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: they're in, which quarterback for some reason. I think they

1120
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: like Kenny Pickens pick it from Pittsburgh. But it wouldn't

1121
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: surprise me if they got Malik Willis. It really wouldn't.

1122
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: And teams he's he's I wouldn't call him a Valentine's

1123
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: Day guy, all right, I'm not calling him that. No.

1124
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: We knew about him when we called the little about

1125
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback on the board at that point,

1126
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: and we were like, all right, cool, like the old

1127
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: miss quarterback. There's just a lot of quarterbacks that I think,

1128
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're saying that these guys are

1129
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: a big deal and I just don't feel that way.

1130
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: And this team start to get desperate, a move will

1131
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: be made, and I just I just feel like that's

1132
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: going to happen on Draft Day. Yeah, Okay, Now it's

1133
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: prediction time for the Dallas Cowboys. You are the GM,

1134
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: you are making the pick. You're making the call. What

1135
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys going to do on Night one? At

1136
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth overall pick. We'll start with Isaiah on

1137
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: this one since we started with rob Blast and I'm

1138
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: off for you. Nobody does. That's what's fun. It's fun

1139
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: about it making prediction. Who you got Cowboys with the

1140
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: twenty fourth overall picks selects. M hm, select, I don't

1141
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: know what's the guard I was talking about the a

1142
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: un boy Kenyon. There you go, Kenyan, Texas, take care

1143
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: of a need. You're gonna plant the story today, planting it.

1144
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: But hey, are you moving up or staying put? Or

1145
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: moving down? Or I think you're staying put? Okay, sorry,

1146
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm planting the story. Planting the story. Jordan Davis falls

1147
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: no off the table man. He's just a two down player.

1148
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's got a lot of gator ate.

1149
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: We got a lot of sadium, right, I'm trying to

1150
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: plant the story. Sorry, Now he's he's a really good player,

1151
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: but hey, he's just not that good of a player

1152
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: to go on the top pick. I think he's undraftable

1153
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: in the top twenty three. That's that's what my thought.

1154
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I undraftable in the top twenty three picks. I think

1155
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: that's that's about it. Yeah, hitching his GIDEO goal with it?

1156
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: All Right, So your prediction is Jordan Davis. I'm gonna

1157
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: go with Isaiah. I think it's Kenyon Green out of Texas,

1158
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: A and m Offensive Lineman. You get your guard, plug

1159
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: and play. He's gonna put you forward and he's gonna

1160
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: help out Dak Prescott, especially on the web site of

1161
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: the Linus Crimmage. I mean that was my pick two

1162
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Gig him, you know, and because it's yeah, yeah,

1163
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: I said, Rob like this, but I also like and

1164
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he really projects as a potential

1165
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: starting tackle in the NFL, more of a guard, but

1166
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: he did play it. I like the position flex to

1167
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: where if you were in a bind, maybe he could

1168
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: play that position as well. And I'll just say they

1169
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: stay put very well. Could move back or up, I guess,

1170
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: but they have not moved back since Travis Frederick I

1171
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: believe in twenty thirteen, and they haven't moved up since

1172
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: like Mo Clayborne in twenty twelve. Usually they sit and pick.

1173
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: Now maybe this is well. They moved back last year technically, Okay,

1174
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: you're right, they did take a couple of spots, but um,

1175
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: this is a weird This is a weird first round,

1176
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: so so maybe there's going to be more movement this year.

1177
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: A question, who's your pick? Real quick? Sorry, Kenny green Ken, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1178
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: A question for you, what's the one pick that you

1179
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: guys think Dallas could make What position do you think

1180
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: that Dallas would take that will make you throw your

1181
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: your clipboard and your pencil across the room if they

1182
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: did it, if you're mad. Did you just just in

1183
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: the first round, Yeah, Bernard Ryman out of Central Michigan

1184
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. I like Bernard Ryman kind project player, right

1185
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: because he hadn't played a lot of football, and he

1186
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: won't play immediately either. It's kind of what Heckmo was

1187
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: talking about until Tyrn gets hurt at some point throughout

1188
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: the season, which is very likely, then he would play

1189
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: just just position. You say, so, offensive tackle, you would

1190
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: throw your clipboard across the room. No, I thought you

1191
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: were saying specifically. No, No, just justsition position. Oh, I mean,

1192
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say wide receiver, I would throw. I would

1193
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: run out the window. Really, I'm out there because because

1194
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, because it's deep. Because that's that's one thing

1195
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy allowed, is that this is a deep wide receiver. Driver.

1196
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: You can wait potentially for that pack. You can you

1197
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: can get a starter wide receiver in the first round

1198
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: or the second round. You can say the same thing

1199
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: for guard two though. So I'm not necessarily there. So

1200
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Dallas took a receiver at twenty four, you're not pissed, no, wow,

1201
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: because because they have not finished addressing that position. I

1202
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, I agree, it's still a wide open need.

1203
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm not as crazy as taking a QB or something, right,

1204
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's the offensive tackle we would be law.

1205
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Linebacker would be lower. I'm okay with a linebacker, especially

1206
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: if it's Dean or Lloyd. Those are both really really

1207
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: good players. I'm on the other side with this. With

1208
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: these wide receivers, man, I just don't think that a

1209
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: lot of did a few of them that can come

1210
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: in and play. The Burke kid from Arkansas I think

1211
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: is going to be phenomenal. But after that, the Alabama

1212
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: guy that has the ACL, I think it's a Williams.

1213
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be phenomenal. But every other

1214
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: all the rest of those guys are project guys, Valentine'sday guys.

1215
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: To me, That's just how I feel about them. I

1216
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: think they've had some numbers. I just don't they don't

1217
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: have the dogs that I'm used to saying, like, hey

1218
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: this the CD Lambs, the kind of guys that you're like,

1219
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: oh oh, he put the tape out there. We know

1220
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: what he can do. I just don't see any of

1221
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: those guys in this draft. I think there's five of them. Okay,

1222
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: you're saying position, throw your clipboard within reason, like they're

1223
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: not gonna take a QB and I gonna take a

1224
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: kicker throwing my footboard across the room. But they dropped

1225
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: the receiver from the first round. I'm livid. I would

1226
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: be livid. Oh, I can't wait till they picked. But but,

1227
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: but but you you hated more than anybody, you hate

1228
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: more than anybody on this show. You hated that Amari's

1229
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: not here and feel like they haven't really addressed it.

1230
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: So I know you don't feel like they're good there. No,

1231
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: So it's first round pick. Yeah, first round pick. Though

1232
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: on a receiver with all the knees that you have,

1233
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot I'm living. But it's a top it's

1234
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: a top two need right, No, arguably, no, not not

1235
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: that early. You can when you do it, you can

1236
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: put a tick on that tell in the first round.

1237
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: You can have it. You have all the skilled position

1238
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: you want to. But if you can't move the dog

1239
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: on the ball, I agree, I still want off the

1240
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: same same boat on you better secure the upfront. I'm

1241
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: keeping notes on this one. Just wait till next week

1242
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: because he's gonna switch this up. Chris Waba is gonna

1243
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: be across the hall and Isaiah's gonna be like, man,

1244
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: he's a faller because you all about wide open offense

1245
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: and that you're talking about we miss any there's five

1246
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: there's five guys that don't sub out the game. Indeed,

1247
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: Corner and the right guy? Are we running in the

1248
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: Star for college? He not? He not? No more? Who? Yeah?

1249
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: Come on? Who would I run for? Come on? Um?

1250
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: Probably Trayvon Walker, But I don't. I don't think that's happening.

1251
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: So if they get David, I'm running to the Star

1252
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: from my house, I'll say it's on that. Chris said,

1253
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: there is, That's it there, it is. It's all we needed.

1254
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: By the way, Chris, you you do as much draft

1255
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: research as anybody else in this room too. Who is

1256
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: your prediction for the Cowboys? What? Um? You know? I

1257
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: ain't messing with that. I'm gonna take the guard, sorry,

1258
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: can you or Zion? It's just it's like quarter, It's

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Speaker 1: the It's the most obvious thing they haven't done that's

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Speaker 1: why it's not gonna happen because your Davis here. I

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Speaker 1: think I think Green can ultimately help he can't. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah? Yes, I agree. Like if you

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Speaker 1: whatever you see and be honest, you're like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: we need to get a center. I think he could

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Speaker 1: help that America. You just gotta Does that make sense

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Speaker 1: from Chris Bean? Yes, Oh, next week we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: either Jordan Davis and a very fit Isaiah, or we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Chris Olave and a very upset Isaiah, or

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a very happy Isaiah. We'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out next week Tuesday, NA or No. Eleven am

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Speaker 1: Central Time, as we're back at the normal slot. But

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Speaker 1: that does it for us this week on Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: for Chris Beam, Rob Phillips isis danback? Heck Myharrison, I'm

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman. See you next week, Go Cowboys on Draft

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