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Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Monday, not just any Monday. There'll

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Speaker 1: be a Game seven, two Monday night football games off.

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Speaker 3: A wild weekend. We're live, We're in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may

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Speaker 1: making Monday and us part of your day. One hour

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Speaker 1: from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong

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Speaker 1: again at Game seven tonight, Jays and Mariners Seattle trying

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Speaker 1: to get to their first World Series. Couple of Monday

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Speaker 1: night football games. Jmac, really fun weekend, really really good Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You know, we complain that we don't love two Monday

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Speaker 1: out of the weekend. But that late window yesterday was nuts.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the early window of folks. It's

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen. Again. Patrick Mahomes completed passes

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Speaker 1: to nine different tight ends or wide receivers. Their speed

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Speaker 1: is everywhere, playmakers everywhere, thirty two points a game in

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Speaker 1: the last month. I hate to inform the rest of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but this is now once again the best offense,

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Speaker 1: the best coach, the best quarterback, and the most flexible.

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Speaker 1: Eight nine different targets. Sum are fast summer possession, some

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Speaker 1: are twitchy, some are big summer tight ends. And the

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Speaker 1: defense is remarkable. And here's the thing. Really smart people

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Speaker 1: make mistakes, yeah, but they're able to quickly identify those mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They're able to let their ego not get in the way,

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Speaker 1: and then they course correct very quickly. Kansas City, I believe,

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Speaker 1: has rebuilt their offensive line three times in five years.

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Speaker 1: I think they've rebuilt this receiving corps four times in

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Speaker 1: maybe seven years. And now all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 1: the deepest receiving corps in the NFL. And the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and you saw this yesterday with the Rams adaptable, They're

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Speaker 1: not one thing. Puka Nakua is out, No big deal.

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Speaker 1: We'll give three or four tight ends a look. And

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Speaker 1: you look at Kansas City yesterday, Hollywood Brown, Worthy, Rice,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. I mean, Rashi Rice comes back, ten targets,

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Speaker 1: ten targets. Mahomes and Rashi Rice haven't played in an

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Speaker 1: actual game in like a year, and he's throwing no

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Speaker 1: look passes to him, And so I don't feel bad

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers or bolt them Joe Burrow and the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: although he's hurt this year. You know, all these teams

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Speaker 1: had a chance. Kansas City was three and three, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have Rice, they didn't have Worthy. This was your

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Speaker 1: time to make up ground on them. But right now

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's not only back, I think they're better than

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Speaker 1: ever they have drafted so well. This is the deepest, twitchiest,

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Speaker 1: most unique wide receiving corps, the best play designer, the

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Speaker 1: best distributor. I watched yesterday, and I mean it was

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Speaker 1: like Mahomes was in a baseball cap in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's like they pulled their starting pitcher after a great

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Speaker 1: two hitter and he had a six run lead in

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Speaker 1: the seventh inning, and he sat in the bench the

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Speaker 1: dugout and watched. But I don't see a hole. I

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Speaker 1: said this a month ago when they clobbered the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Everybody said, oh, the Ravens are beat up. That's not

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Speaker 1: what I watched right now. They're just they just keep

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Speaker 1: Well, the wildest game of the day is a team

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Speaker 1: AFC West. It involved the Denver Broncos, who for three

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They came back to win a wild,

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Speaker 1: two franchise quarterbacks. Jackson Dart for the Giants was the

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Speaker 1: better one early. Boon Knicks was pretty special late. But

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Speaker 1: Same with bo Nicks. I mean, bon Nicks had four

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Speaker 1: up first downs. Russell Wilson did it, Maholmes did it,

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Speaker 1: both bow and Jackson Dart unlike Mahomes, had to play

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Speaker 1: So everybody keeps doubting bow Knicks because like a lot

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Speaker 1: And it's like Klay Thompson. Remember Klay Thompson once scored

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Speaker 1: and he's still a kid. I would prefer a complete game.

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Speaker 1: I would love a great first quarter and a great

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Speaker 1: That's not what he is yet. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: These guys bow Knicks and Jackson Dart, they're not overwhelmed

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Dark shouldn't lead for three quarters. And Denver's

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Speaker 1: I thought Jackson Dart was amazing to go into Denver

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Speaker 1: and to give the Broncos defense all sorts of trouble and.

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Speaker 1: If you'd have told me the Giants don't score nineteen

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Speaker 1: have said, yeah, I could see that thirteen, fourteen, seventeen points.

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Speaker 1: So I mean a losing cause. If you're a Giants fan,

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Speaker 1: needs a better role line, he needs more help. Denver's

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Speaker 1: got the better players, Denver's probably got the better coach.

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Speaker 1: Denver's probably got the better general manager. Denver's definitely got

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Speaker 1: more weapons, the Mims and Sutton and Harvey and Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Denver has a Super Bowl roster. The Giants don't. So

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Speaker 1: I was blown away by both guys. I really was

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Speaker 1: that was That was Klay Thompson scoring thirty seven in

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Speaker 1: not Curry. He's not KD But thirty seven in a quarter.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of people on the planet ever can

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Speaker 1: do that. And Bownicks just had the greatest quarter of

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Speaker 1: any player in league history. I'm sorry, that's hard to do,

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Speaker 5: Well, I was thinking about how I was going to

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Speaker 5: answer questions if we got shut out, you know, not

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Speaker 5: I don't even know how we scored thirty three points

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Speaker 1: The windows are tight, the DB's are better, the pass

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Speaker 1: move the chains, extend drives. All right, j mact. The

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Speaker 1: Bears have themselves a little winning street in Chicago. Here

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Speaker 3: Let's celebrate Colin whoo. Well.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, the Bears have reached a point

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Speaker 1: that is the ultimate respect in the NFL. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you where that place is. The Bears have finally

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Speaker 1: reached this place. We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, well, I played blind resume with

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Speaker 1: Bonnicks Friday.

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Speaker 1: We all thought that was kind of fun Blind resume,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I compared bo Nicks yesterday Klay Thompson of

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Speaker 8: He's got great confidence to stay in there.

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Speaker 9: You know, the coach has confidence in him, and he's

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Speaker 9: Better, way better than advertised runner. You know, the two

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Speaker 9: And I think he's weathered the storm of you know,

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Speaker 9: He's way more mature than you know, someone with his

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Speaker 8: Like in the long run, this is gonna be great

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Speaker 9: Like every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever

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Speaker 8: It's not not we dude, you threw the pick.

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Speaker 9: It was you, and that's what That was the thing

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Speaker 9: I know it's a loss, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to hear this. Whenever you go to

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Speaker 9: I think everyone would agree he's a heck of a coach.

433
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I said this earlier. I know it's a

434
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Speaker 1: singular game. If Matt Stafford doesn't make the Hall of Fame,

435
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Speaker 1: then I think it's ridiculous. You cannot watch him to

436
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: fly in you know, I mean jet lagged, no pooka.

437
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: He's throwing to a seventh round rookie touchdown. He's throwing

438
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: to a rookie. Two rookies caught it. I'm in Listen,

439
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: this is not a great old line. Jacksonville a couple

440
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: of weeks ago led the NFL and takeaways. Jacksonville. It's

441
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Speaker 1: their second home. That game was Stafford was, and listen,

442
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Speaker 1: it's just a really good organization. As a former quarterback,

443
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Speaker 1: when you watch Stafford in that arm talent, what do

444
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Speaker 1: you see, Well.

445
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Speaker 9: He's always had the arm talent. I mean his his

446
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 9: problems were, you know, especially back in the day in Detroit,

447
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 9: getting a little sloppy with it and uh, you know

448
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 9: a trust in arm arrogance is what I think people

449
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Speaker 9: called it back then. No, he's unbelievably talented. He's super

450
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 9: fun to watch. Weird things happen overseas in these games, though,

451
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Speaker 9: like you never know who's going to show up, Like,

452
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Speaker 9: you know, you think Jacksonville would be better at it,

453
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Speaker 9: more mature with it.

454
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Speaker 8: No, the rams was it was a clinic.

455
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Speaker 1: You know.

456
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Speaker 9: Stafford had like five touch I think four of them

457
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 9: though were like less from the five yard line game.

458
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Speaker 8: I mean, it was a weird stat line kind of day.

459
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Speaker 9: He spread the ball around great to your point, No, Puka,

460
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Speaker 9: I think ten different guys, cub passes, great game plan, McVeigh, Stafford,

461
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 9: they know what they're doing.

462
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Speaker 8: But it was really unique.

463
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Speaker 9: I think, I like even DeVante had they get three

464
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Speaker 9: touchdowns for like thirty five yards. It's like it was

465
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Speaker 9: a weird stat day. But sometimes when you're banged up

466
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Speaker 9: and you're missing a star player, you got to go

467
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Speaker 9: win games in a unique way. And I think that,

468
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Speaker 9: you know, to your point about a Stafford at his age,

469
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 9: he did just that and did it perfectly. And you

470
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Speaker 9: know he's probably feeling pretty good right now, and you

471
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Speaker 9: usually can't say that as a veteran quarterback.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said after the game, you may get knighted

473
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Speaker 1: after that, and he just said, can I get a sword?

474
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Speaker 1: All I care about? Can I get a sword? All

475
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Speaker 1: I care about? So you know, body language matters. I

476
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: remember years ago turning on Jay Cutler and just saying

477
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Speaker 1: I don't like his body language, Like his buddies on

478
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Speaker 1: the team don't hang around him on the sideline. It

479
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: drove me crazy, and I was critical of air and

480
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: sometimes in Green Bay he's by himself, he's hold.

481
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't like that.

482
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Speaker 1: But when I watched Ben Johnson watching Caleb on some

483
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Speaker 1: of those passes, his resting face is discouraged. I'm watching

484
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Speaker 1: him like he's not gonna eye roll, he's not gonna

485
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: yell at him. But watching them yesterday, my takeaway is

486
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson knows what this team is, Matt, and it's

487
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Speaker 1: a run team. It's a yards after the catch team,

488
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Speaker 1: and it's a takeaway team. We talk about Caleb, but

489
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Speaker 1: he's a supporting actor here. That's what it feels like

490
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Speaker 1: to me, is Ben's made the decision. Is we went

491
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Speaker 1: and got Dolmond, Joe Toney, Jonah Jackson, We're gonna run

492
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Speaker 1: the football here and then, and I think it's the

493
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Speaker 1: right call.

494
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Speaker 9: Well, I think Ben Johnson is some some first time

495
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 9: head coaches, they sort of struggle, they learn on the fly,

496
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Speaker 9: they make a lot of mistakes. You say, like, yeah,

497
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 9: this guy, he was just a coordinator.

498
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Speaker 8: He's not really a head coach. I don't think anyone's

499
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 8: feeling that way about Ben Johnson.

500
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Speaker 9: I think everyone feels like Ben Johnson, know, like the

501
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 9: Bear's got the real deal, Like he's the real deal.

502
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 9: And I think he's got great confidence in how he

503
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 9: develops quarterbacks, what he wants for his team, what he

504
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 9: wants for what he wants for his offense. And Caleb

505
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 9: is supremely talented. So I think that this could work.

506
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Speaker 9: But Ben Johnson isn't really the type, doesn't seem the

507
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 9: kind of guy that's going to change or adjust. It's

508
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 9: kind of like a Caleb We're going to play on time,

509
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 9: We're gonna play in rhythm, We're gonna run my scheme.

510
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 9: I'm not going to put training wheels on you. Like

511
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 9: we're going to take shots early and often, like it's

512
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Speaker 9: part of what we're doing. And if you want to

513
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 9: be on board, you want to do it my way.

514
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 9: This can work. If you want to revert back to

515
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 9: what you did in high school and college because you

516
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 9: were more talented than the people around you, then.

517
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Speaker 8: Maybe you're not my guy. And I do think it

518
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Speaker 8: is working.

519
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 9: There are times where he kind of reverts back into

520
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 9: kind of what you were talking about earlier, about you

521
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 9: know what cam Ward is kind of reverting back to

522
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Speaker 9: a little bit.

523
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Speaker 8: And sometimes it's.

524
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Speaker 9: Tougher for someone who's really talented to just play within

525
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 9: a system. I think that's going to be the hardest

526
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Speaker 9: thing for this marriage.

527
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Speaker 8: But it could work.

528
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 9: As long as they keep winning and Caleb keeps sort

529
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 9: of buying in, I think.

530
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 8: It could work.

531
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Speaker 1: So I'm watching Kansas City. They've rebuilt their O line

532
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: three times in six years. They maybe have rebuilt their

533
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: receiving corps four times in seven years. They do a

534
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: really good job I think of identifying their mistakes and

535
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: quickly course correcting. Is that I mean, I know great

536
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: gms in this league who would tell me privately that

537
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: don't want to put it out there, they're like, oh boy,

538
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: I just totally whiffed on our third round pick. Everybody

539
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: makes mistakes in this league. But I'm watching Kansas City

540
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: and I watched them yesterday, nine different receivers, and it's

541
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: just like, now, I look at their receiving corps three

542
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's a mess. Now, I'm like, is that

543
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: the deepest in the league. In all your years in

544
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: the NFL, you had really good coaches and really smart people.

545
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: If a coach did make a mistake or a GM

546
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: did make a mistake, were you ever in meetings where

547
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: people just said, we're going to course correct. This doesn't work,

548
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: this does. I feel like Kansas City is constantly fluid.

549
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: They're constantly because I pay Ma Holmes, Chris Jones and

550
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey right, they've got to take They got to bring

551
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: Juju Smith back, let him go, they got to bring

552
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: him back. What do you make of what they've done

553
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: to this receiving core in the last three years now

554
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: it looks like it's the deepest in the league.

555
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

556
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 9: Well, as as a player, I never needed someone to

557
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 9: take accountability at the podium, Like I didn't care if

558
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 9: the head coach or the GM or anybody got to

559
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 9: the podium and said it, But I cared greatly, and

560
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 9: I think all my teammates did of what was said

561
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 9: in the locker room, what was said in the team

562
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 9: meeting room when a coach or the organization like you know,

563
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 9: says hey are bad, you know, like we love that,

564
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 9: We love that. I thought what was really interesting about

565
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 9: the Chiefs, Like, I think the Chiefs have one of

566
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 9: the best cultures of any organization in sports in terms

567
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 9: of like, hey, we're in this together. It's us against

568
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 9: the world, even though the world's really not against you.

569
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Speaker 8: You mentioned it. Nine different guys caught the ball, however.

570
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Speaker 9: Like the number one targeted guy I think with ten

571
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 9: targets was Rashi Rice. Like this is a guy that

572
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 9: you know, whatever you might feel about him in that

573
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 9: locker room, that is our brother, that is our teammate.

574
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 8: That is our guy.

575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 9: And they had a concerted effort from the ten yard line,

576
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 9: from the five yard line, screens to him, push passes

577
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 9: to him, welcome back.

578
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 8: Number four, here we go. You're our guy, you know,

579
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 8: we were going wherever you.

580
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 9: Help take us, Like that's a that's an effort that

581
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 9: the locker room rallies around and you.

582
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 8: Saw it in the play calling. You saw my home.

583
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 9: In fact, Mahome's two worst plays that probably should have

584
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 9: been picked where when he was forcing the ball to

585
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 9: Rashi Rice. So like he's got he's got an effort

586
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 9: to make, you know, bring the guy along, get back

587
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 9: right away.

588
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 8: I don't know.

589
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 9: There's just something special about when a team comes together

590
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 9: that way, from top to bottom and top to bottom.

591
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 9: And then I'm when I say bottom, I'm talking quarterback,

592
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 9: franchise quarterback, that's not really bottom.

593
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally, every time I watch the Packers, they leave

594
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: me wanting just a little more, and I'm like, I

595
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: like him. They are super young, like Seattle. I understand

596
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: it's a process. They may look different in twelve weeks. Yesterday,

597
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, why does Jacoby Brissett look like Joe Montana?

598
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Why is he completing balls? Why? And then I think, well,

599
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Arizona at home, they've got McBride, they've got good players,

600
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: looks like Larry Fitzgerald, Harrison, excuse me, Marvin Harrison now

601
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: is developing into something it is?

602
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: Do team do young teams?

603
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, every time I watch Green Bay, I'm like, okay,

604
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: why aren't they winning this comfortably or am I overvaluing

605
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: their talent? Well?

606
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 8: I think they're young. I mean Green Bay's a young team.

607
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 9: Jordan Love has got great potential, but I think we

608
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 9: just think automatically. He's like, hey, why aren't you playing

609
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 9: like fav and Aaron Rodgers like, you know, it's just what.

610
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 8: Packer quarterbacks do. He's still a young player.

611
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 9: I think defensively, you know, they've got a new defensive

612
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 9: coordinator somewhat new and Jeff Hathley, he hasn't been there

613
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 9: that long. And I think, you know, they played great

614
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 9: last year, he started out great. This year they add

615
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 9: Michael Parsons, They're trying to figure out the pieces.

616
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 8: I think this is a good team.

617
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 9: Parody in the NFL, it's a it's a real thing,

618
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 9: and especially in that division. I think a lot of

619
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 9: people had the Minnesota Vikings if JJ McCarthy was going

620
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 9: to be a guy, it's like, oh, the Vikings is

621
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 9: going to take that division.

622
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 8: It's not. You know, now you got the Bears are

623
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 8: probably overachieving.

624
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 9: The Lions are great. Packers took it to the Lions

625
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 9: week one. You know, I do think that this is

626
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 9: a team that I wouldn't be afraid to say this

627
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 9: is a playoff team that could really do something special.

628
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 8: But yeah, I guess, I guess. I hear what you're

629
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 8: saying with the Arizona game.

630
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 9: But Arizona to me is just always been this like

631
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 9: spoiler team.

632
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 8: I don't care who you are, if.

633
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 9: You're the Rams, if you're the Seahawks, if you know,

634
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 9: like you go down there, it's a that's a tough

635
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 9: that's sort of a tough game, usually as Kyler and

636
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 9: not Jacoby, But I'm not.

637
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 8: I'm not giving up on Jordan Love. I think this

638
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 8: team will hit their stride at the right time. But

639
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 8: I get your fan I get you, I get your.

640
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 9: Feelings with that, and I'm sure Packer fans somewhat agree

641
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 9: with you.

642
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: By the way, you went to Boston College. The UCLA Bruins.

643
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: You are bandwagoning just assiddly. They are red hot. You study,

644
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: they let go of their coach, they bring in the assistance,

645
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: They're on fire as a program. It is amazing to

646
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: watch sometimes in college football. I'm like, it's a totally

647
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: different juice, totally different vibe with UCLA, is it not.

648
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, for the record, I am a UCLA parent now.

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Speaker 9: And my son is on that football team. But no, listen,

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Speaker 9: it's a real thing. And I've been a part of

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Speaker 9: coaching changes when they happen on the fly. I mean

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Speaker 9: it's you either pull apart, y you pull together. And

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Speaker 9: this UCLA team has for sure pulled together, winning three

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Speaker 9: in a row. I think big Neon kickoffs going to

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Speaker 9: Indiana this week, so that'll be a big one Indiana

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Speaker 9: versus UCLA. The games aren't going to get easier in

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Speaker 9: that big ten matchup. But no, it's a real deal.

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Speaker 8: I learned it. I learned it in college with many

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Speaker 8: head coaching changes. I learned it in the NFL with

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Speaker 8: head coaching changes.

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Speaker 9: It's part of what makes sports great, unpredictable.

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Speaker 8: And for all you betters out there, would never bet.

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Speaker 9: On a team with an again against a team with

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Speaker 9: an interim head coach. It's like a blind date. No

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Speaker 9: one loves those going up against those types of opponents.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, Uh, Indiana's good, by the way.

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Speaker 8: To put it mildly, they're good. They're good.

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Speaker 3: Hey, great, seeing you a man?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 8: See you call it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Matt, when he comes to Los Angeles to visit his kids,

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Speaker 1: is a proud dad. And it is remarkable to watch UCLA.

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Speaker 1: So they the head coach, a former player there, leaves

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Speaker 1: and they, you know, Jerry Neuheisel, who sounds exactly like

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Speaker 1: his dad and looks like his dad. They have just

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Speaker 1: turned it around, just brand same kids, different energy, and

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Speaker 1: that game suddenly got really really interesting. So Game seventh

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Speaker 1: night Mariners and the Blue Jays