Speaker 1: So the big question is this, how do investors like
Speaker 1: us get access to the ideas, information, and most importantly,
Speaker 1: the right people that give us the tools and information
Speaker 1: we need to make conformed and educated decisions to have success.
Speaker 1: That is the question, and this podcast will give us
Speaker 1: the answers. This is Mark Moss, your host. Let's get
Speaker 1: this started. Welcome back to another episode of the Market
Speaker 1: Disruptors podcast. We like to talk about disruptive technologies, disruptive companies,
Speaker 1: people who are building and doing things in these disruptive industries.
Speaker 1: Today we're talking with Robert Beatles from Monarch Wallet, and
Speaker 1: Robert is one of the hardest working men in crypto.
Speaker 1: He is traveling NonStop at the conferences at the forefront,
Speaker 1: talking to people, rubbing shoulder to shoulder with the movers
Speaker 1: and the shakers, and he's one himself. He has been
Speaker 1: building in this space for a couple of years um
Speaker 1: in a really good area in uh In, in the
Speaker 1: space that's really tying all these projects together and securing
Speaker 1: your coins. So let's jump right in. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: to Robert Beatles. Everybody, Welcome to the Market Disruptors. I
Speaker 1: am here with Robert Beatles from Monarch, but also from
Speaker 1: many other things as well. Um, welcome, hey man, thanks
Speaker 1: for having I really appreciate it. Yeah. Now, uh, I
Speaker 1: know you're really big on YouTube. I've met you at uh,
Speaker 1: I've been at several conferences with you. I know you're
Speaker 1: really out there pushing uh, the the education or at
Speaker 1: least the awareness adoption phase, right that it's a big
Speaker 1: piece of what you're doing. Yeah, I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I got into it. Right. So
Speaker 1: back in two eleven, a guy named Max Kaiser you know,
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to bitcoin and basically all the world
Speaker 1: of value that it brings to us. Right, And so
Speaker 1: from then on, I've been kind of bit by the
Speaker 1: crypto bug, and my friends and family and whatnot knew
Speaker 1: that I was in crypto. And so around when the
Speaker 1: when the market got crazy hot, everybody decided that they
Speaker 1: wanted to get into crypto, but they didn't really know
Speaker 1: anything about it. So they asked me to create, you know,
Speaker 1: basically a YouTube video that they could all go to
Speaker 1: and kind of learn the inner workings of how crypto works,
Speaker 1: how they buy it, how they sell it, how they
Speaker 1: stored all that kind of stuff, and it just kind
Speaker 1: of kind of life of its own, right, So start
Speaker 1: off like that, they loved it. Then they asked me
Speaker 1: to start kind of reviewing projects. Then basically you know,
Speaker 1: covering projects. Next thing, you know, I've done like a
Speaker 1: thousand interviews and probably aired only three fifty of them
Speaker 1: or something like that. But that's kind of how we
Speaker 1: we get onto the YouTube side of things. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've I have a software company. We build you know,
Speaker 1: applications and platforms for people like the United States Post
Speaker 1: Office and so around or so. After you know, really
Speaker 1: looking at the space and all the people in it
Speaker 1: and kind of the lack of easy I guess user
Speaker 1: experience to actually be able to store, send received crypto
Speaker 1: things like that, we decided to come up with monarchs.
Speaker 1: So we built that, you know, for for the people,
Speaker 1: right and from day one we just gave it to
Speaker 1: them for free. People can start using it, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's been a wild ride, man, it's been a
Speaker 1: wild ride. And it's just getting started. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: just getting started. So I love disruptive technologies. I just
Speaker 1: love the whole idea of what we call creative destruction
Speaker 1: right where it's like the old way is killed off,
Speaker 1: by a new way, new solutions to old problems, and so, um,
Speaker 1: I think cryptocurrency is the most disruptive thing that we've
Speaker 1: ever seen. The Internet was super disruptive. Cryptocurrency is even bigger.
Speaker 1: But I just I love it because I believe it
Speaker 1: creates the biggest opportunity for us. I mean, I love change,
Speaker 1: I love new things. That's just part of me. But
Speaker 1: it creates a really big opportunity for us as as
Speaker 1: investors as well. Now you've been obviously being in crypto,
Speaker 1: you're in a disruptive state, but you're a business owner
Speaker 1: and you've been involved in other disruptive industries. Do you
Speaker 1: look at it that way? Like you do you look
Speaker 1: for opportunities in ways that you can like solve old
Speaker 1: problems with new solutions. Yeah, definitely. Um. You know, before
Speaker 1: coming into the space, you know, I've built one of
Speaker 1: the largest construction service companies in California. So we've got
Speaker 1: a ton of locations, tons of employees, um, And that
Speaker 1: was something that we did there was kind of disrupt
Speaker 1: the existing way of doing things and we've created a
Speaker 1: new model and it's been super successful. And then with crypto,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, when Max open eyes to it.
Speaker 1: I instantly saw, you know, the value of pure to
Speaker 1: pure transactions and how you don't need a third party anymore.
Speaker 1: So then leveraging that to get more power to the people,
Speaker 1: to allow people to become you know, a monarch. Right
Speaker 1: so because right now, basically the monarchs of the banks,
Speaker 1: the financial institutions, things like that. But with with monarch,
Speaker 1: you actually become your own king, your own queen of
Speaker 1: your personal finances. You actually end up becoming the monarch.
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of the name behind it. And
Speaker 1: so that right there kind of disrupts the the traditional
Speaker 1: system of sorts because you have to rly on all
Speaker 1: these different people for all these different services to have
Speaker 1: access to your funds. And so knowing that, you know,
Speaker 1: we wanted to make sure that people would be in
Speaker 1: charge of their own finances, have their own seed, their
Speaker 1: own key, nobody could take their money from them, They
Speaker 1: could go anywhere in the world and basically pay for
Speaker 1: goods and services, and so that was you know, really
Speaker 1: key for us. You know, pun intended was to be
Speaker 1: able to allow people to you know, rule their financial kingdom,
Speaker 1: and so that was an easy way to start, um,
Speaker 1: you know, disrupting Um, the old way of doing things,
Speaker 1: so to speak, giving people access to their money. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a simple idea, but it really isn't. If
Speaker 1: you go anywhere and you have a bank of card,
Speaker 1: you know, like an a T M card or something
Speaker 1: like that, and say you go to Vegas and you
Speaker 1: want to pull out a thousand bucks. You may have
Speaker 1: a million bucks in your account, but bank decides, you
Speaker 1: know what, you know, we're not gonna give it to you,
Speaker 1: Luke Shady or you know, we don't agree with what
Speaker 1: you're gonna be spending. An honor for whatever reason, you
Speaker 1: don't have access to your funds, and so just giving
Speaker 1: people access to their funds anywhere in the world is
Speaker 1: pretty disruptive. And that's just the start. So if you want,
Speaker 1: we can talk more about it. But I definitely, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely love disruptive technology. All it does
Speaker 1: is bring more benefit to to the world, to the people,
Speaker 1: to the consumers. And so you're definitely right. There's lots
Speaker 1: of coportunities out there. You just gotta figure out what
Speaker 1: you're good at, what you're passionate about, and then uh
Speaker 1: do it. Um, that's funny. I have to kick myself
Speaker 1: a little bit because I never picked up on the
Speaker 1: name monarch and in that in that term. Um so
Speaker 1: but but I but I love it. Um I actually um,
Speaker 1: I used to subscribe to a newsletter called Sovereign Man,
Speaker 1: and uh, Simon Black writes it and and it's all
Speaker 1: about being sovereign, and it's all about planting sovereign flags
Speaker 1: right all and not just having my whole life in
Speaker 1: one country, but really being a sovereign man. And and
Speaker 1: that that was when I first started hearing about bitcoin
Speaker 1: in the early thirteen fourteen fifteen. Uh. And uh, that's
Speaker 1: what attracted me to it was being able to be sovereign, right,
Speaker 1: take my money. So the same thing that you're saying,
Speaker 1: I just I never caught up on the monarch term.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. Um you are what's that You
Speaker 1: are your own king or you are your own queen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. Um. You know, it is a massive shift,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, and and and it's probably the biggest
Speaker 1: shift we'll ever see where um, we're so used to
Speaker 1: having things centrally controlled for us and money obviously as
Speaker 1: we're talking about, but even our shopping or even our news,
Speaker 1: or even our our food production everything essentially controlled. And
Speaker 1: so now to have our our money, but really our value,
Speaker 1: to be able to have control that without that being
Speaker 1: centrally controlled, I'm being able to transfer that peer to
Speaker 1: peer without somebody in the middle. That's a massive shift.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a gonna be a big point,
Speaker 1: a big area that people are going to have to
Speaker 1: get over to really see that adoption happen. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, the hardest part of adoption we have is
Speaker 1: it's just too confusing for people to use, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's it's a really sucky user experience.
Speaker 1: And so people, um, you know, like the true crypto um,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess uh, you know, the crypto savvy.
Speaker 1: You know, they even have a difficult time navigating kind
Speaker 1: of the waters that they are in front of us, right,
Speaker 1: and so you can see that people they'll give up
Speaker 1: their freedoms just for you know, just for having an
Speaker 1: easier experience. You see that, you know in government, you
Speaker 1: see that with people's rights and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But if you look even like last night finance, whether
Speaker 1: it was hacked internally, whether it was hacked you know,
Speaker 1: by an outside force, people that leave their funds there,
Speaker 1: you know, can potentially lose them because they're using a
Speaker 1: centralized entity with things like monarch that's decentralized. And when
Speaker 1: you start getting into decentralized finance, you are the weakest link.
Speaker 1: You are the one that is ultimately responsible for your finances.
Speaker 1: So if you lose your seed or you lose your
Speaker 1: key or whatever, then you know, you may lose your funds.
Speaker 1: But the chances of somebody you know, hacking your decentralized
Speaker 1: wallet is basically the same chance as of somebody hacking
Speaker 1: the Bitcoin blockchain or the Ethereum blockchain. And so when
Speaker 1: people understand that and they realize what power that they wield,
Speaker 1: then they'll be like, wow, why would I ever give
Speaker 1: this powder to somebody else? But until you have that
Speaker 1: kind of user experience, it's like really easy for them
Speaker 1: to understand. It's they're always going to kind of rely
Speaker 1: on centralized services like Amazon and banks and everything else
Speaker 1: because they're used to it. It's easy, you know. You
Speaker 1: it's like Facebook, get that little thumbs up, but it works.
Speaker 1: They don't really care why it just does. But once
Speaker 1: they realize, oh wow, I can do all this stuff
Speaker 1: without anybody, and I'm you know, basically in control of everything,
Speaker 1: and it's really easy to use people start doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, we we know. I mean it
Speaker 1: was it Thomas Jefferson and he talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: giving up our freedom for privacy for freedom. Uh, we
Speaker 1: don't deserve either. Everyone is always willing to sacrifice for
Speaker 1: the short term. So I'll sacrifice my sovereignty, I'll sacrifice
Speaker 1: my privacy for convenience. So so we see that. I
Speaker 1: guess that's just a human characteristic. We always want what's easy. Um.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I've studied every technological
Speaker 1: revolution for the last couple hundred years, and they all
Speaker 1: kind of they all roll out the same way. And
Speaker 1: if you look at the Internet days, and I know
Speaker 1: you're old enough to remember, I mean in the early
Speaker 1: nineties it wasn't easy to connect to the Internet either.
Speaker 1: But look how far we've come since then. And that's
Speaker 1: what people have to remember. With the blockchain to see
Speaker 1: it all, you know, it was a dark net and
Speaker 1: six the eight Yeah, you know the Internet that we
Speaker 1: see today in ninety four, and then you look at
Speaker 1: Amazon never would have survived in ninety four, but you
Speaker 1: look at them in nineteen and they've made things super simple.
Speaker 1: You're able to do that decentralized it. Hopefully it doesn't
Speaker 1: take us fifteen years, but you'll see that. You know,
Speaker 1: we're definitely on that road as well. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just think overall, I always just try to remind people
Speaker 1: that just to be patient, because I think everyone's expecting
Speaker 1: too much too soon. Like you said, the Internet really started,
Speaker 1: you know, at least in the seventies or eighties, really
Speaker 1: publicly in nineteen ninety, but it wasn't until Nive that
Speaker 1: the average person could even somewhat kind of try to
Speaker 1: use that with Netscape coming online. Um and uh and
Speaker 1: and by two thousands or by two thousands, so full
Speaker 1: ten years after kind of that whole public unveiling, only
Speaker 1: ten percent of people have ever bought anything online. And
Speaker 1: we didn't even have broadband internet DSL until two thousand,
Speaker 1: three thirteen years later. So um, you know, when it
Speaker 1: when it comes down to, like you said, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's not easy for the average person. Um. I just
Speaker 1: think that comes with time, and it's just it's just
Speaker 1: being patient. And I understand you as a builder, you're
Speaker 1: really working to try to make that easier um, and
Speaker 1: so those things will come right, Yeah, they definitely will.
Speaker 1: You know, it just comes with you know, it comes
Speaker 1: with patients in time, like you said, but there's things
Speaker 1: that we can do to expedit. It just kind of
Speaker 1: learning from our past failures with centralized systems, so we
Speaker 1: know that what we need to do to kind of
Speaker 1: make things easier for people. And so even with Monarch,
Speaker 1: you know, right now you have to belong to like
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen different exchanges, twenty different exchanges, have twenty
Speaker 1: different wallets, have all these different KYC processes, have all
Speaker 1: these different barriers to entry for people into crypto. And
Speaker 1: so the Monarch wallet isn't like a wallet like just
Speaker 1: for money. It's a wallet for all the best services
Speaker 1: and all the best businesses out there to come under
Speaker 1: you know, one umbrella to be in one wallet for
Speaker 1: for the user to access all these cool services and
Speaker 1: and um, you know, features and companies all from one
Speaker 1: log in process, all from one k y C process,
Speaker 1: all from one app that's gonna be dumbed down to
Speaker 1: where you know, I'll be able to use it if
Speaker 1: I was six years old, you know what I mean. Basically,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna make this this custom user
Speaker 1: experience that no matter what they're trying to do, they'll
Speaker 1: be able to access it from one spot from all
Speaker 1: of our partners. And if you look at what we've
Speaker 1: developed and dropped so far, you know, it's incredible what
Speaker 1: we've already done, you know. Uh, like when we launched,
Speaker 1: we've done more than most people with hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars of market cap, and we came out with
Speaker 1: our product first, and every week it just gets better
Speaker 1: and better and better, and you can see all the
Speaker 1: partners that we keep bringing on and UM where this
Speaker 1: is going. So I want us to be that one
Speaker 1: spot for people to where they can no matter what
Speaker 1: it is they want to do with crypto or finances,
Speaker 1: will have in one spot and it'll just be one
Speaker 1: easy log in process, one easy k y C process
Speaker 1: for those services that need that. And UM you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully will get there a lot, a lot sooner than
Speaker 1: from nine four to you know, se nineteen. You know,
Speaker 1: it was really like like fifteen nineteen years or something
Speaker 1: in between, like before we really started getting easier for
Speaker 1: people to use and start building own websites and UM,
Speaker 1: but hopefully we'll get there a lot sooner. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: like maybe in the next year that we'll be able
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, we definitely will. Right, we can
Speaker 1: look back at every technology cycle has a shorter adoption period.
Speaker 1: So it took the telephone eighty years or seventy years
Speaker 1: to reach eighty percent adoption, But the Internet, I did
Speaker 1: it in fifteen years because the lines were already there, right, Um,
Speaker 1: and the Internet, Uh, you know, the Internet took a
Speaker 1: long time because there was no way to share information.
Speaker 1: But today informations everywhere, everyone's catching on hearing about it
Speaker 1: way fast. The lines are already there, so it definitely will. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: are you are you trying to build something? I mean
Speaker 1: I guess you're You're not necessarily disrupt anything because this
Speaker 1: market is so new. You're actually building something new within
Speaker 1: the marketplace. And that's kind of like a centralized place
Speaker 1: where you can kind of control everything. Like you said,
Speaker 1: is that is that from like uh, exchanging your coins,
Speaker 1: storying your coins, or spending your coins, like all in
Speaker 1: one location, all of it. So imagine if you anything
Speaker 1: and everything crypto, anything you want to do, whether it's
Speaker 1: crypto kidies or a crypto game, or if it's decentralized
Speaker 1: files sharing, whether it's your finance is, whether it's you know, buying, selling, sending, receiving,
Speaker 1: storing crypto, all the different various coins, all the various
Speaker 1: different tokens, anything and everything crypto all held within one
Speaker 1: wallet so that way you can do everything that you
Speaker 1: need from one place. So think about it is like
Speaker 1: one entry point to all the best services and businesses
Speaker 1: out there that we partner with. So I mean, we've
Speaker 1: got some of the biggest and most respected names and
Speaker 1: crypto as our partners, and we just keep adding more
Speaker 1: and more and more every single week. And so they're
Speaker 1: all just going to be plugging into us having access
Speaker 1: to our users, and our users will have access to
Speaker 1: their service and they'll be able to do it all
Speaker 1: from one place. So it's pretty incredible. I've never seen
Speaker 1: anybody to do this before. And um, it comes from
Speaker 1: you know, me being in the space. It comes from
Speaker 1: you know the I guess it's kind of like the
Speaker 1: hassles that I have to deal with to access all
Speaker 1: these different services that that I like, Um, you have
Speaker 1: to belong all these different things, and all the pains
Speaker 1: that I hear about from people trying to come into
Speaker 1: the space, and it just kind of makes sense that,
Speaker 1: like with Monarch, I just build something you know for
Speaker 1: me that I like. And my co founder, Snay adds
Speaker 1: you know, a ton of value. He had a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff that he didn't like, you know, in the
Speaker 1: crypto space, and so the two of us came together
Speaker 1: and basically build something you know, for us that you know,
Speaker 1: the world you know, would appreciate and use. And we've
Speaker 1: been seeing that just more and more, you know, with
Speaker 1: two and fifty thousand downloads and with our communities just growing,
Speaker 1: you know, astronomically, we can see that we're onto something
Speaker 1: and we're just we're building stuff we would use, you know,
Speaker 1: just like the shirts you know on our YouTube channel
Speaker 1: we give away you know, shirts and hats and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's stuff that that I wear, stuff that
Speaker 1: I would use, right I don't, you know, try to
Speaker 1: do any of this stuff to just make a quick
Speaker 1: buck and leave. You know, we've we've made our money.
Speaker 1: God has been great to us. So we're we're building
Speaker 1: stuff for people that they can actually use every single
Speaker 1: day and make their lives you know better, and give
Speaker 1: them basically an interface. It makes it really simple for
Speaker 1: them to do it, to have access to all these
Speaker 1: different services and all these different companies all from one
Speaker 1: place and one a loog and experience. Yeah, So building
Speaker 1: in this space and then working with a bunch of
Speaker 1: these companies like you are, it gives you like a
Speaker 1: different perspective than most people see now. It seems like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously with bitcoin and ethereum, I mean are
Speaker 1: more decentralized today, it seems like we're seeing a more
Speaker 1: centralized kind of building points. So like most of these
Speaker 1: companies now maybe have equity and there's people building. Do
Speaker 1: you think, uh, it's much easier to build in a
Speaker 1: more centralized manner than like a decentralized manner thousand thousand percent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you want to create something that
Speaker 1: you know works, that's easy to use, and you and
Speaker 1: you want to basically control everything, yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: can do that, you know, in a day. But if
Speaker 1: you want to create something that's you know, truly decentralized,
Speaker 1: that or at least a hybrid. I've always said from
Speaker 1: the start, and I've said this for years, that you
Speaker 1: need something that's a hybrid. You need something that's centralized
Speaker 1: for all the bulky stuff and they need something to
Speaker 1: centralize for all the sensitive stuff. So for instance, like
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel. Um, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 1: go throwing all your videos and all your content on
Speaker 1: a blockchain. It doesn't make sense. But you want to
Speaker 1: basically be able to have access to all your fans
Speaker 1: and your subscribers, So that stuff there should be on
Speaker 1: a blockchain that only you and you alone have access to.
Speaker 1: So that would be the central of wise, but the
Speaker 1: video storage would be centralized because it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: they get rid of your videos. You know, you have
Speaker 1: access to your to your subscribers, to your fans, you know,
Speaker 1: to all those people. So it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: like even with Monarch, everything we've built so far, the
Speaker 1: wallet size is completely decentralized. We don't even have their
Speaker 1: email address. But as we start adding other services and
Speaker 1: we create this platform, and then they'll be centralized aspects
Speaker 1: of it, because you're gonna want to plug in all
Speaker 1: these different services, so there's gonna have to be some
Speaker 1: centralized services. However, all the private stuff, all the stuff
Speaker 1: that you want to keep safe and secure and things
Speaker 1: like that, you know, you'll have access to your you'll
Speaker 1: be able to do that all decentralized, So it needs
Speaker 1: to be a mixture of both. But if you just
Speaker 1: go full centralized, then you're always I mean, why do
Speaker 1: it at all? Why don't just use the traditional system.
Speaker 1: You're basically right back at square one doing the same
Speaker 1: thing we've always done. You're just basically giving your funds
Speaker 1: and your power to somebody else. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And and for me, the killer app with bitcoin got
Speaker 1: me excited was the censorship resistance ability of that right
Speaker 1: where it's like it whatever I have can't be eased, stolen, manipulated,
Speaker 1: and if I want to send it to you, it
Speaker 1: can't be stopped, blocked, or prevented. So it's that like
Speaker 1: that sent that that decentralized or censorship resistance nature. And uh,
Speaker 1: what scares me is going to more centralized models, is
Speaker 1: that a court order could just change all that. And
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't like about the current system today.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the amount of like
Speaker 1: bank seizures that happen in the United States, it's astronomical,
Speaker 1: and I don't like that. Right, Like, you look at people,
Speaker 1: whether it be Adam Horowitz today or was Julian O
Speaker 1: Songe before and they can't get money, like, they can't
Speaker 1: even get accounts, Like, I don't like that. So it's
Speaker 1: that censorship resistance. And so as you moved to that
Speaker 1: central as a Lasian model, and then you lose that rightable. Yeah, now, um,
Speaker 1: let's talk about last night, but finance was hacked. We
Speaker 1: won't get into the nitty gritty of it, but from
Speaker 1: us looking at it from like a storage perspective, right,
Speaker 1: because uh we we say in the block chain space
Speaker 1: that if you don't have the keys, you don't have
Speaker 1: the coins, right and what's not your keys, not your
Speaker 1: crypto exactly exactly, not your keys, not your crypto. So
Speaker 1: you know, anytime someone's leading their their coins on an exchange, um,
Speaker 1: there there's risk. They're what we call counterparty risk, right. Um,
Speaker 1: but if they hold it in their walllet they have
Speaker 1: risks as well, right, So it's just up to each
Speaker 1: person to like out to weigh the risk and reward
Speaker 1: on that or how do you view that? So basically,
Speaker 1: you know, again, if you're gonna use a centralized service,
Speaker 1: you have to realize that there's risk. So if you're
Speaker 1: going to use an exchange and you're gonna leave your
Speaker 1: crypto on it. You're basically hoping that uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't get hacked, they don't steal your money, all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So just know, anything you leave
Speaker 1: on an exchange, you can. And I've always told people
Speaker 1: that from the start that crypto is extremely dangerous, not
Speaker 1: the fact alone that it's volatile, but then you have
Speaker 1: people that just don't really want to steal your money.
Speaker 1: And with finance, it's really hard to say what happened
Speaker 1: there When you have that many employees, that is a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And um, when you have power, power
Speaker 1: corrupts absolute. Power corrupts absolutely. And so if you get
Speaker 1: some some people there that are making you know, five
Speaker 1: bucks an now or fifteen bucks an how or whatever
Speaker 1: they make there, I don't know, and they see all
Speaker 1: this money coming through all the time, it's possible they
Speaker 1: collude and they come up with a way to you know,
Speaker 1: basically you know, fatten their wallets. Yet you know, maybe
Speaker 1: the user's expense, maybe the exchange expense. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there, but I do know
Speaker 1: that it is very difficult to hack exchanges, and normally
Speaker 1: it's it's normally a blow from within and that might
Speaker 1: have been what happened here. I don't know for certain.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the code, I haven't seen the breach,
Speaker 1: but um, it is very difficult to hack people, and
Speaker 1: so I don't I mean, if they did, you know,
Speaker 1: kudos to the hackers that they did, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: an amazing job of getting past you know, all the security.
Speaker 1: But there's there's I would say a more likely chance
Speaker 1: that it probably came from within. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: leave your your coins, your tokens on exchanges, just know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be susceptible to stuff like that and won't
Speaker 1: always tell people, is it. If you're gonna trade, And
Speaker 1: if you want to be a trader, that's cool, and
Speaker 1: you want to leave you know, tokens or coins on
Speaker 1: on these exchanges, you know, just use you know, be
Speaker 1: safe obviously, but you know, only put on their what
Speaker 1: you're willing to lose number one and number two, what
Speaker 1: you're gonna be trading, if you're storing stuff, if you're chipmunking,
Speaker 1: if you're you know, you get a savings plan and
Speaker 1: you want to huddle this crypt, I'll throw it on
Speaker 1: a decentralized wallet. Man, don't don't leave it on exchange.
Speaker 1: So it's a super risky and dangerous volatility alone. But
Speaker 1: then now you're, like you said, the counterparty risk, it's
Speaker 1: uh scary stuff, so um, but storing it on on
Speaker 1: your own wallet poses a set of risk and dangers
Speaker 1: as well. Right now, I have to rely on my
Speaker 1: own off stack, my own security. Yeah. I mean again,
Speaker 1: you are the weakest link. So if you have a
Speaker 1: decentralized wallet, make sure that you've written down the seed
Speaker 1: to it, make sure you keep it in a secure
Speaker 1: place where only you know. And if you're gonna share
Speaker 1: it with somebody, you know that they can steal all
Speaker 1: your money, right, So if you're gonna share your seed
Speaker 1: with somebody, make sure somebody you trust with your life
Speaker 1: and your money, right, and then just keep that safe.
Speaker 1: If you lose your phone, whatever, you just redownload the wallet,
Speaker 1: put the seed back on it, and poof, like magic,
Speaker 1: all your funds come back. But if you lose your seed,
Speaker 1: you know then yeah, you lost your money. You are
Speaker 1: the weakest link to it, so you just have to
Speaker 1: know that. And then if you really want a really
Speaker 1: cold wallet solution and you don't want to spend money
Speaker 1: for a treasure or you know, like a Ledger and
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I always recommend just get one
Speaker 1: of your old phones, you know, down with the monarch wallet,
Speaker 1: transfer you know, whatever funds you want to it, take
Speaker 1: out the SIM card, turn off the WiFi. Now you
Speaker 1: have a completely decentralized, absolutely cold storage wallet that nobody
Speaker 1: can mess with. The only way somebody would ever have
Speaker 1: access to your funds would be if somebody actually had
Speaker 1: the blockchain itself. So, um, just a little tip in
Speaker 1: there for people that I've told people for for years. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've I've done that myself as well. Um, when you
Speaker 1: say it's a decentralized wallet, what does that mean and
Speaker 1: how does that compare to I guess I'm more uh
Speaker 1: maybe centralized traditional hot wallet or digital wallet. Sure, so
Speaker 1: I mean it decentralized wallet. Basically, it means that there's
Speaker 1: no there's no power, there's no central party controlling your funds. Right,
Speaker 1: So decentralized takes the power from you know, from the
Speaker 1: one or whatever and gives it to the other and
Speaker 1: the other being you. So you basically have access to
Speaker 1: your funds via a private seed, a private key, and
Speaker 1: so nobody can take your money from you unless actually
Speaker 1: hack a blockchain or something like that. You are the
Speaker 1: weakest link. With the centralized wallet. Basically, your money is
Speaker 1: stored on a corporation's you know wallet, right, it's stored
Speaker 1: on a company's you know, on their ledger. If they
Speaker 1: go you know, bankrupt or if they steal your money,
Speaker 1: you know, you hopefully there's legal ramifications and you'll be
Speaker 1: able to get it back somehow. But what centralized, you're
Speaker 1: completely at the mercy of one person. With decentralized, usually
Speaker 1: it means that you're in charge and you will own
Speaker 1: or in charge of it. I mean, we can get
Speaker 1: fancy and I can explain exactly how it all works.
Speaker 1: But just for you know, for for basics, decentralized means
Speaker 1: you control it. Centralized means they control it. So so
Speaker 1: you you have control of your keys and no, no
Speaker 1: one can do anything. They can't steal your money. They're
Speaker 1: doing transfers without those keys, and you have control of it. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: got it? Okay, Yeah, and uh do you have any
Speaker 1: uh I mean to I guess besides what you already said,
Speaker 1: like taking an old Android phone, uh aaring it whatever?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like the probably the best opset like
Speaker 1: the easiest one that most people can achieve. It's probably
Speaker 1: good enough for the majority of people. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: Apple myself, androids you know, it's it's good too. It's cheaper.
Speaker 1: So whatever you have laying around, just um, I recommend
Speaker 1: that you down with the Monarch wallet, add your funds
Speaker 1: to it, you know, take out the SIM card, turn
Speaker 1: off the WiFi. It's pretty cheap. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I really don't like about ledgers and treasures and
Speaker 1: all those types are all the software updates that you
Speaker 1: constantly have to do. Not to mention the laundry list
Speaker 1: of bugs and errors that have been published, you know,
Speaker 1: with actual security issues of those hardware wallets, and not
Speaker 1: to mention the costs involved. But it's it's really frustrating
Speaker 1: when you go to access your funds and let's just
Speaker 1: you know, say that the wallet is safe and secure.
Speaker 1: The hardware wallet, Um, you have to do all these updates.
Speaker 1: You know, you need web browsers and plug ins, you
Speaker 1: need all this crazy stuff that you always have to do.
Speaker 1: I used to give away, you know, ledgers on all
Speaker 1: my videos. I would give them away and then after
Speaker 1: using them for a while, I was like no more man.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just find an old device, rip out the SIM,
Speaker 1: turn off the WiFi, make sure you get your seeds
Speaker 1: safe and that is a very very effective and safe
Speaker 1: and cheap way to store your crypto. Yeah. Now, um,
Speaker 1: you are one of the harder working men in in
Speaker 1: the space. Just at least from your travel schedule alone.
Speaker 1: I know, you're at conferences and meetings all the time,
Speaker 1: so you're kind of at the forefront. You're rubbing shoulders
Speaker 1: with the with everybody, the movers and shakers, like, uh,
Speaker 1: what are you what are you seeing? Are there any
Speaker 1: like trends? What do you what do you where do
Speaker 1: you see us going in the next twelve twenty four months?
Speaker 1: I mean anything you can report there. Yeah, we we
Speaker 1: definitely stay busy. And we just got back from conferences,
Speaker 1: um last night, like two o'clock in the morning, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I still still building Monarch every day,
Speaker 1: not to mention all the other stuff that we do.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the the sentiment, you know is that they
Speaker 1: feel and again this isn't necessarily financial advice ever, and
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily my opinion, but they think that we're
Speaker 1: kind of out of the woods, and that um, you know,
Speaker 1: this has been a good period of time for us
Speaker 1: to be building and focusing on the tech oology versus
Speaker 1: just speculating on the price. Um. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: really cool stuff that's coming out that people haven't seen yet.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be pretty exciting, um, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as the technology and how far we've come, especially in
Speaker 1: the short period of time. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: like to say that, you know, cryptos failed, it's been
Speaker 1: up for you know, ten years, it's garbage, nobody uses it.
Speaker 1: That's not true though, because we were really doing get
Speaker 1: smart contracts. I c O is all that stuff until
Speaker 1: Augur Auger was the first i CEO built on Ethereum,
Speaker 1: and so we've only had this stuff for about three
Speaker 1: years really, and so all the stuff that we're seeing
Speaker 1: right now UM isn't where we're gonna be. In the
Speaker 1: next twelve to twenty four months. You're gonna start seeing
Speaker 1: some crazy stuff coming out that's really gonna help with adoption,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna start seeing like I've been time my
Speaker 1: Facebook man for years and I'm like, dude, if they
Speaker 1: access there are two point seven billion or three billion
Speaker 1: people that they have and they just drop cryptocurrency, you know,
Speaker 1: the ability to to spend crypto to all those users.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have, you know, some crazy adoption overnight. And no,
Speaker 1: nobody's really ready for that yet, right, nobody is really
Speaker 1: ready for that yet. But when that happens, when they
Speaker 1: flipped that switch, look out Master Carlo Visa. I know
Speaker 1: that they're saying that they're working with them, but you
Speaker 1: never tell them you're coming. You just say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're partners, guys. Yeah, but they're coming for him.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I sometimes find it funny, ironic, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it, that you see Visa master Card
Speaker 1: or or or or JP Morgan working on a crypto solution,
Speaker 1: but that technology is meant to get rid of them, Like,
Speaker 1: how how can they work on a technology that was
Speaker 1: designed to put them out of business? Well, they say,
Speaker 1: they say, you know, blockchain not bitcoin, right, So you
Speaker 1: had like Jamie Diamonds saying, you know, bitcoins of scam,
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. Whil So I guess you know,
Speaker 1: he was buying up as much as he couldn't having
Speaker 1: all his traders buy it up, while of course they
Speaker 1: were creating their own JP Morgan coin. But if you
Speaker 1: look at like HSBC. I think they did two d
Speaker 1: and fifty billion dollars with their own private blockchain last
Speaker 1: year alone. You know, you see all these big wigs
Speaker 1: and all these big institutions, you know, they're all talking
Speaker 1: about blockchain. Now, they're all creating their own you know,
Speaker 1: internal blockchains, which is basically just you know, centralized you
Speaker 1: know service like like what they have now, like what
Speaker 1: they're using now, except using blockchain to do it because
Speaker 1: it's so much faster, it's cheaper, it's easier. So they've
Speaker 1: acknowledged that. But you don't see them like really you know,
Speaker 1: adopting bitcoin. You see them adopting their own stuff. Because now, dude,
Speaker 1: this I I've always said, man, crypto is like the
Speaker 1: most empowering thing for the people or the most enslaving
Speaker 1: thing for the people. So it depends on what you use. Right.
Speaker 1: So if you give central banks, if you give governments
Speaker 1: the ability to create their own cryptocurrency, they have complete
Speaker 1: control over the population. They can you know, take money
Speaker 1: away from and they can see where their money spent.
Speaker 1: They can use social engineering, they can see you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you're not a good person. We're just gonna freeze your accounts,
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff versus bitcoin where you go anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world and now you can basically use it,
Speaker 1: you know, a peer to peer without the need of
Speaker 1: a third party, so that you've got the empowerment and
Speaker 1: then you also have the enslavement. And so there's so
Speaker 1: many things going on right now. But uh, I can
Speaker 1: tell you as we want see nothing yet depends on
Speaker 1: which way I can go. I you know, I think
Speaker 1: the one thing and I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: Facebook coin, and it goes into exactly this next point,
Speaker 1: which was and and just for a real quick history
Speaker 1: lesson when the Internet first came out, it was open right,
Speaker 1: The Internet's open source, and all these big corporations were like,
Speaker 1: oh no, we can't have our databases hooked to this
Speaker 1: open internet. So they all spent probably collectively billions of
Speaker 1: dollars to make intranets, and they made spend all this
Speaker 1: waney to make these closed off intranets, and then eventually
Speaker 1: they all got abandoned. Now everybody's on the open Internet,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we're seeing today with all these
Speaker 1: jp morgan building their own little internal blockchains and eventually
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll go to this open source one. But back
Speaker 1: to the point, you just made either the most freedom
Speaker 1: or the most enslaving, and you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 1: imagine if if if the FED had their way and
Speaker 1: could get rid of cash and put everybody on a blockchain. Uh,
Speaker 1: it would be dangerous. I mean it would be good
Speaker 1: for them, bad for people that wanted freedom. But when
Speaker 1: you look at like Facebook, and I know this is
Speaker 1: pure speculation, but um like, I do agree with you
Speaker 1: that it would probably the biggest push for adoption. Three
Speaker 1: billion users globally, and not just not just users, but
Speaker 1: almost every business eight million businesses. Now you have merchant
Speaker 1: acceptance right now, there's actually real use case. But what
Speaker 1: do you think guessing? Uh, do you think Facebook would
Speaker 1: have an open source or a closed source code base? One?
Speaker 1: And two? Would would Facebook be exchangeable or would it
Speaker 1: only be used within the ecosystem? So I think that's
Speaker 1: it's difficult to say. I think that they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: try to play to the decentralized crowd and say portions
Speaker 1: of it are just like if you look at the
Speaker 1: finance decks, it's not really a dex. I mean they
Speaker 1: can call back the transactions and take take your funds
Speaker 1: from what from what I've been told, So I'm not
Speaker 1: sure exactly how they're gonna brand it, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: imagine that it's going to be fully you centralized, and
Speaker 1: god knows, they're not gonna show all their code. Uh
Speaker 1: they may show portions of it, but they definitely won't
Speaker 1: show you know, how the how the sausage is made.
Speaker 1: And then um, as far as it being closed loop,
Speaker 1: I think they might start off that way because you
Speaker 1: know then I mean, I guess if it's pegg to currencies,
Speaker 1: if it's just a basket of fiat basically you know,
Speaker 1: in different countries, just just what it's going to be
Speaker 1: able to do for the world alone. I mean, you'll
Speaker 1: have all the unbanked banked overnight if they allow it
Speaker 1: to leave the ecosystem that you can shut down Vias
Speaker 1: and MasterCard and probably a month that they wanted to
Speaker 1: because you've got eighty million businesses there, you get three
Speaker 1: billion people. If they allow this to be open and
Speaker 1: free to the world, you'll probably see the biggest you know,
Speaker 1: shift of wealth that you've ever seen. Uh, go to Facebook.
Speaker 1: They'll be like the biggest thing ever. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't even describe how how huge they will become if
Speaker 1: they do make their Facebook coin available outside of their ecosystem.
Speaker 1: It just because everybody would, you know, just accept it
Speaker 1: and adopt it, and they would just you already see
Speaker 1: the only people that really care about, you know, losing
Speaker 1: their information and there um, you know the I guess
Speaker 1: the privacy issues that we've had with Facebook. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's a small percentage people maybe you're upset about it.
Speaker 1: The other eight percent just keep posting pictures and videos
Speaker 1: and you think that they the percent of people that
Speaker 1: are upset about it aren't even probably do anything about it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of upset about it, but I'm still
Speaker 1: on this pupid thing, right, That's what I mean. So people,
Speaker 1: you know, they're if they're already posting their pictures of
Speaker 1: videos and then now you have Facebook, they already trust them,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna start using them for currency to pay
Speaker 1: for you know, goods and services, and everybody's gonna accept
Speaker 1: it because everybody is already on the platform. You've never
Speaker 1: seen this kind of shift in wealth and in payment
Speaker 1: transactions and currency. Ever, I don't think ever, it is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the biggest things that we've ever
Speaker 1: seen people downput. But and I can't say the day
Speaker 1: one they'll be, um, you know, open to the world.
Speaker 1: They may be a closed loop initially, but they won't
Speaker 1: always be that way. I guarantee it. I think in
Speaker 1: order to have massive success, they're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: open and exchangeable, because that's the whole thing where it's
Speaker 1: like and really like the Internet now whatever you wanna
Speaker 1: call it, twenty years old, is really now just changing
Speaker 1: the world in a sense where like you know, um,
Speaker 1: if we're really feeling the effects of the social effects
Speaker 1: of the Internet in a decentralization. But the Internet, if
Speaker 1: we have all these borders and so our money doesn't
Speaker 1: cross borders and super expensive to transfer money across the borders.
Speaker 1: You can't send five bucks across the border. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just not cost effective. And that's where crypto comes in.
Speaker 1: So you look at like the Internet, you have like
Speaker 1: Internet citizens and now we're on the Internet. Is four
Speaker 1: billion people on the Internet, and that's where like bitcoin
Speaker 1: can be this Internet money and Facebook could potentially be
Speaker 1: that Internet money. But if it if you can't leave
Speaker 1: the inner the ecosystem, I think I think it's gonna lose,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. No, you're right. I mean they've already
Speaker 1: tried that with some of their digital currencies that they've
Speaker 1: had in there for for tipping and sending people, you know,
Speaker 1: digital cash, but it wasn't crypto and it didn't have
Speaker 1: you know, a wide adoption at all. Why it's a
Speaker 1: closed system. As soon as you open this up to
Speaker 1: the world, to all the businesses, all the users, I mean,
Speaker 1: it seriously could destroy these and master Card American Express
Speaker 1: discover all those guys literally like in the first month
Speaker 1: because nobody be able to keep up. All they have
Speaker 1: to do is keep the fees low and they control everything,
Speaker 1: and everybody would use it and it would be silly
Speaker 1: and and and that's the big shift. So everything we
Speaker 1: have today is siloed off and closed off. My Target
Speaker 1: reward points are stuck at Target, My American airlines, miles
Speaker 1: are stuck on American airlines, Like my Chuck E Cheese
Speaker 1: tokens only still work if I go back to Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese. Everything is closed off, whereas cryptocurrencies allows everything
Speaker 1: to re open and exchangeable. And and that's the way
Speaker 1: I think we wanted to be it should be. That's
Speaker 1: the way it'll grow. But there's massive incentives for all
Speaker 1: these people to try to continue to not allow that
Speaker 1: to happen. Um, so that's the battle, right, Yep, No,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I keep telling people all the time,
Speaker 1: and you guys are looking at the wrong at the
Speaker 1: wrong thing. They keep talking about which blockchains better. It's like,
Speaker 1: we already have good enough blockchains now when need layer two,
Speaker 1: layers three solutions, and you need basically, you know, a
Speaker 1: hub to plug into that doesn't matter what blockchain you're using,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what company you're with. You know, it'll just
Speaker 1: work everything. You're not gonna have to have all these
Speaker 1: different things. You'll just have one thing that will basically
Speaker 1: swap currency to currency. It won't matter if there's two
Speaker 1: million cryptos out there, two cryptos out there, it'll just
Speaker 1: convert everything for you. Yeah, that's what we're really missing
Speaker 1: right now, is it's kind of that conversion cool. And
Speaker 1: then obviously, of course, you know, like a layer three solution,
Speaker 1: which is the ease of access to those systems lay
Speaker 1: or two stuff like lightning obviously isn't there yet. But
Speaker 1: we really don't need all that crazy stuff quite yet
Speaker 1: just start, you know, putting this to work. We just
Speaker 1: need to use your interface that works, it's easy to use,
Speaker 1: and we need basically some kind of compatibility component that
Speaker 1: we don't have yet. Um So that's when one of
Speaker 1: the things we're trying to do with Monarch is just
Speaker 1: make it make it extremely easy for everybody to plug
Speaker 1: into and have access to everything. You don't have to,
Speaker 1: you know, belong to just one club. Just like restaurants.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Burger king on McDonald's, Taco Bell,
Speaker 1: it's all food, man. You can pick whatever you want.
Speaker 1: You know, you can eat whatever you want a different day.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. You shouldn't limit uh, you know what you're
Speaker 1: able to do. You should be able to get whatever
Speaker 1: you want and be able to consume it. So I
Speaker 1: think the same thing will hold true in crypto. We're
Speaker 1: just missing a few pieces that I think are on
Speaker 1: the way right. All right, Well, that's good stuff. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Now, just one more question. So, you know,
Speaker 1: being that you're building in the space, like I said,
Speaker 1: you're on you're on the move, You're you're you're meeting
Speaker 1: all the people, you're seeing all the things. Where do
Speaker 1: you see yourself a company. Um in one, two, three,
Speaker 1: whatever years. How far are you looking out? Where do
Speaker 1: you think you'll be? Yeah, I mean it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that um, you know, we we try to
Speaker 1: drop value every you know, every week every two weeks,
Speaker 1: so and um, you know, we're not afraid to pivot,
Speaker 1: you know when we kind of go the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: So right now, you know what I want to do
Speaker 1: is in the next year, snayling myself, we want to
Speaker 1: create you know, one platform to where everybody can go
Speaker 1: and have access to all their favorite services in businesses
Speaker 1: that we partner with from one place, with one log
Speaker 1: and experience, with one KYC experience. Make it stupid simple,
Speaker 1: like just crazy simple that everybody, you know, we'll start
Speaker 1: enjoying it using it things like that. Um. Obviously you know,
Speaker 1: we build a lot of our own things as well.
Speaker 1: So some of the stuff that you know, like for instance,
Speaker 1: we've come up with the we've you know, patented patent
Speaker 1: pending you know, like a recurring payment transaction model. Right,
Speaker 1: so we've created a plug in that businesses can use
Speaker 1: to set up recurring methods and crypto and be paid, um,
Speaker 1: you know in stable and stable fiats right. So that way,
Speaker 1: if you want us paying crypto for you know, Netflix
Speaker 1: or Hulu or you know, your mortgage stuff like that,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to do that. In in in Crypto,
Speaker 1: we have acquired a broker dealing license you know, pending
Speaker 1: you know, Finner SEC approval, all that kind of good stuff.
Speaker 1: But it allows us to, um, you know, convert crypto
Speaker 1: FIAT and pay these merchants. So what you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I could break this down granularly, I guess you
Speaker 1: know with our Stolaune platforms all this stuff. But basically
Speaker 1: where I see us, you know, in in five years
Speaker 1: is like the go to place for anything crypto or
Speaker 1: financial services. Uh be once one stop shop anything and
Speaker 1: everything you want to access to. You know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to do it from one place. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're not worried about competition. You know, arms are wide
Speaker 1: open to basically anybody of value. You know, we'll bring
Speaker 1: them on, We'll plug them in, will offer their services
Speaker 1: to our users, and our users will have access to
Speaker 1: their services from one easy place. So you know, I
Speaker 1: want to do that like over the course of the
Speaker 1: next year. UM, I mean, if you look at what
Speaker 1: we've done and just over the past year or two,
Speaker 1: we've I mean, I'll say that we've done more than
Speaker 1: most of the crypto companies out there, and ours is
Speaker 1: freeing you can down it today. Um So in five years,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's gonna be like just an incredible
Speaker 1: place for everybody to go and uh and while they
Speaker 1: retain ownership of their seed and their keys and their funds,
Speaker 1: and while they while they're still their own monarch and
Speaker 1: while they're still you know, their own kings and queens
Speaker 1: of their financial you know, empires that they've that they've
Speaker 1: created and no one can take from them. Yeah. Nice,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, it's hard to project out in five years.
Speaker 1: We don't know because we don't have building blocks to
Speaker 1: build the stuff that will be built in the future. Right,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to predict that we'd have, um, something
Speaker 1: called the cloud that had uh, that our our cars
Speaker 1: will be hooked to something called the cloud that would
Speaker 1: be given us like voice activated navigation, using something called
Speaker 1: social media, Like we didn't have any of those building blocks,
Speaker 1: Like we wouldn't have known about that. No. Actually, right
Speaker 1: this this space is not going to look the same
Speaker 1: in five to ten years, five ten years, you won't
Speaker 1: even recognize the space. You have cars paying cars you're
Speaker 1: gonna have. It's gonna got ready player one in certain instances. Right, So, um,
Speaker 1: all I know is I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: there were that one spot for everybody to go to
Speaker 1: basically control their finances and their freedoms and have access
Speaker 1: to all the coolest stuff. And it's just gonna get
Speaker 1: better and better every single week, every single month, every
Speaker 1: single year. And uh that's that's what I want us
Speaker 1: to be for the people. Yeah, well you are one
Speaker 1: busy man on the move with your finger on the pulse.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting out tons of good content for those
Speaker 1: listening on the podcast. Where's a good place to keep
Speaker 1: up with you? Well all right, um, let's see. So
Speaker 1: we obviously have our YouTube channel. We give away a
Speaker 1: hundred bucks bitcoin cash on every single episode so that
Speaker 1: way people can get into crypto on on our dime
Speaker 1: actually my dim and so that's Crypto Beatles on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Uh see, we're on TV Business TV um on the
Speaker 1: face uh trading these sessions on trading views. So if
Speaker 1: you want to learn about you know, how to chart
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. You know, all this
Speaker 1: stuff is is free. Just go in there and watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't do any kind of paid courses or any
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, so it's always free on my dime.
Speaker 1: Just here to help educate and bring value in the space. Awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: all right, well, good stuff, good chatting with you, and
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you continue to disrupt. Likewise, my brother,
Speaker 1: keep it up. Let me know if you need anything. Cool,
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Speaker 1: see you next time on the Market Instructors Podcast