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Speaker 3: Brother dude, thank you so much for the kind words,

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Speaker 3: and you know, coming from you, it's it's that stumbling uh,

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Speaker 3: was angry, frustrated, you know, and guys like us, when

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Speaker 3: we see something like that, it's we're men of action

439
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: and we're like, Okay, something.

440
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: Needs to be done. But at the end of the day,

441
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 4: what what are you going to do?

442
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: Right? It's like I had I have one dude, I

443
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: follow a lot, and he was like, all right, you

444
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: need to give all the GYT guys thirty days, right,

445
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: we get we all get an official pardon, and we'll

446
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: go clean it up, you know in thirty days. Yeah,

447
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: in our in our wedd that would be yeah, that's right,

448
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, that's right.

449
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Speaker 3: But the reality is and then the reality and this

450
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 3: is just you know, our society today is like, that's right.

451
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: There's there's nothing that we can do to affect the situation.

452
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 4: It's just that's the bottom line.

453
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Speaker 3: And so, you know, my wife and I were talking

454
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Speaker 3: about it, and so I ended up, you know, going

455
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Speaker 3: to my son's room and I was like, hey, hey, buddy,

456
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Speaker 3: you know, I know I understand how you're feeling.

457
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Speaker 4: I'm feeling it too, moms feeling it. We're all crushed

458
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Speaker 4: by this.

459
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Speaker 3: And I told him, I was like, you're you're right

460
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Speaker 3: to feel these emotions. It's there's nothing wrong with that.

461
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: But it's what you do with your emotions that matter.

462
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you can sit here and stew and

463
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Speaker 3: be angry and let this bottle up. And I was like,

464
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Speaker 3: and I'll tell you right now, stay off social media

465
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Speaker 3: for the next four days. And I was like, this

466
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Speaker 3: is only going to get worse. But I was like,

467
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Speaker 3: my suggestion to you and I was like, your mom

468
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Speaker 3: and I are doing the same thing, is we are

469
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Speaker 3: going to give all these emotions to God.

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Speaker 4: We are going to pray and like, Lord, take this

471
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Speaker 4: from me. You're the one in control. I am not.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, and I told him, I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I told my son, I'm like, you're id,

474
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Speaker 3: You're the clone of me.

475
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Speaker 4: You're identical to me.

476
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, and what I don't want to see

477
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Speaker 3: happen is the mistakes I've made in the past is

478
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Speaker 3: letting those emotions ruminate in me and then they're going

479
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Speaker 3: to come out in some way or the other. And

480
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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of the time it's not a good outcome.

481
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Speaker 3: It's it's going to affect either this family negatively or

482
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Speaker 3: someone else negatively. And so I'm like, you need to

483
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: realize that and get these emotions out, given to God

484
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Speaker 3: and then just process what's going on. And so we told,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, we told our daughter the same thing. We're like,

486
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Speaker 3: stay off social media and just pray, pray for pray

487
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Speaker 3: for this family, Pray for the Kirk family, and that's

488
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Speaker 3: all we can do right now. To affect the situation

489
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: because it was it's it's a tragic thing, man, you know.

490
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Speaker 3: And I yeah, it was crazy how much it affected,

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Speaker 3: you know, like my wife and I And I'm not

492
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Speaker 3: afraid to admit it.

493
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Speaker 4: Like I think three days later, I was still stewing.

494
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Speaker 4: I was laying in bed.

495
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Speaker 3: I was tears were going down my face because I

496
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Speaker 3: think and I couldn't believe.

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Speaker 4: I was like, dude, how was like, I didn't know, Charlie,

498
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Speaker 4: you know. But I think it's more for us. It's like, dude, we.

499
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Speaker 3: Spent our lives fighting for this country, you know, and

500
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Speaker 3: I truly believe we all did it for just reasons. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 3: And to see the country sort of turn on itself

502
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Speaker 3: like it is right now, it's heartbreaking, man. And it's

503
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Speaker 3: I think that's why we get so angry, because obviously

504
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: anger is a secondary emotion to sadness or anything like that.

505
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: I think most of us are heartbroken over it because

506
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Speaker 3: it's like, what all this work that we thought we

507
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Speaker 3: put in to defend this country and to keep it

508
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Speaker 3: the way it is, and to see it turn on

509
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Speaker 3: itself like this and see you know, all the vile

510
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: things being said back and forth on both sides. It's like,

511
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Speaker 3: this is not this is not the America that I

512
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Speaker 3: signed up to defend, you know, or this is not

513
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Speaker 3: the outcome that I wanted from it. And so at

514
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, I'm like, dude, we just

515
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: need to keep keep praying. Pray for this country and

516
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: not just one side, pray for everybody in it. Everybody

517
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Speaker 3: in this country needs it right now. And you know

518
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Speaker 3: that's so I put that video out and it was

519
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: funny because and that's one thing I'll discuss Dave is

520
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: I was repulsed by the amount of people that were

521
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Speaker 3: taking advantage of the situation and take into their Instagram

522
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Speaker 3: and like oh this and this and given their thoughts

523
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: and opinions or just even from our community, like seeing

524
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: people come on like oh, let me I was a sniper.

525
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: Let me give you like my scenario.

526
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Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, okay, you're doing that for your

527
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: own self, like to get more clicks or more whatever.

528
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Speaker 3: And so I've I was complaining about that, and then

529
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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, all these people have children

530
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: and their kids are watching you. Their kids are watching

531
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Speaker 3: how you react to this, and guess what the way

532
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: you react is what they're going to emulate. So that's

533
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Speaker 3: that sort of drove me to put out that video.

534
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Speaker 3: And I wasn't going to discuss the whole situation. I

535
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Speaker 3: was just like, hey, be aware, like for you people

536
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Speaker 3: that are going on here talking about violence or talking

537
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Speaker 3: about you know, we need to do this or that,

538
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: or giving your thoughts on it. I was like, your

539
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: kids are watching you, so you should probably be careful

540
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: on what you put out there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And that was just my I guess public service announcement.

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Speaker 2: It was sage wisdom.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love about you, dude, is like, man,

544
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: even with your background and and you know how much

545
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: combat you've seen, man, you always seem to just hit

546
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: the temperament at the right place and you know, and

547
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: I think that's it was repulsive to me, is like

548
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: within hours there are people trying to capitalize on the incident,

549
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: and within a day it's like, oh, you know, he

550
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: was killed by this group, using this group, and he

551
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: was doing this, and you know, and it wasn't just

552
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: the crazies that they were trying to you know that

553
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: were on the left like oh great, he's dead type

554
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: of stuff for what you know, to hell with him.

555
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: It was even the right and whatever the right is now,

556
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: which seems to be almost as fractured as the left is,

557
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: you know. And what I'd love for you to do

558
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: is just share that little piece about about you know,

559
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: the past and what destroyed us and what's going to

560
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: destroy us in the future, and just to kind of

561
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Speaker 1: go on a tangent a little bit about that, because

562
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Speaker 1: I think that when you said that to me before

563
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: we opt on, man, that just ripped right through mecause

564
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: it's so true.

565
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'll get to like how I got to that.

566
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: So I you know, I shared a tweet that I saw,

567
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: which like hit me the same way.

568
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, there it is. You know.

569
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Speaker 3: I was talking to my wife not too long after

570
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: the incident and I was like, you know, I really

571
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: do think social media is going to be the downfall

572
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: of our society.

573
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Speaker 4: I think it's there's obviously there's pros to it.

574
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: You can spread positivity, but I think the cons far

575
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: away the pros. And I think we've seen it like

576
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: it's it's you know, it's driven our country to go

577
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: against each other. Nobody knows what the truth is anymore,

578
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: nobody can think for themselves.

579
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Speaker 4: They just it's whatever their algorithm is.

580
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: Feeding them, right, and we all like, you know, I

581
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: can go online and my algorithm is probably mostly conservative

582
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: or whatever things that just get fed to me, and

583
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: you know, I don't.

584
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: It's just the way it is.

585
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: It's like, because it knows what you are, you better

586
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: than you know yourself half the time. So we had

587
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: this conversation about it, and from that, of course the

588
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: phone's listening, so it starts to promote me the you know,

589
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: stuff on that subject.

590
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: But I did.

591
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: I saw a tweet and it said, you know, social

592
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: media will be the downfall of our society. The dinosaurs

593
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: had the asteroid, we have the algorithm. So brilliant, man, Yeah,

594
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: that was I thought that was one of the most

595
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Speaker 3: brilliant things I saw.

596
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Speaker 4: And I was like that that could not be more

597
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: of the truth.

598
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Speaker 1: So, and it's what's fascinating to me, you know, is

599
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Speaker 1: that you can sit there and tell somebody till you're

600
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Speaker 1: blue in the face, Hey man, you're you're falling into

601
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: the feed that they want, you know, I mean the

602
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: whole the people that designed these algorithms in conjunction with coders,

603
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: like they're the top psychologists psychiatrists, right, people on the planet. Right,

604
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Like they they went to you know, wherever, Harvard or

605
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Northwestern or studying Ford whatever, and they're like, you're gonna

606
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: come work for us. We're gonna show you this machine

607
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: learning algorithm. How do we program this thing to drive

608
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: people into silos.

609
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: To where we can get whatever we want out of them?

610
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: You know?

611
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, that's simple.

612
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: A human being if they see something twenty four times

613
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: in a row that shifts the you know, it programs

614
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: them and now all of a sudden, they're just they're

615
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: pressing like pressing, like pressing leg and now.

616
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Speaker 2: You know, you got them.

617
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: And and if you don't get that, like, dude, I

618
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: just saw yesterday what it was. There was a big

619
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: bust in New York City and the lead up to

620
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: the big un thing that they've busted like four places

621
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: in New York around this area that were bot farm banks, right.

622
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw those, the you know,

623
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: the huge rooms fold with you know, these bot farms,

624
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: and like you can show that and saying, hey, dude,

625
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: this is who you're arguing with. Man, Like, this is

626
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: who you're screaming at, This is who you're going at

627
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: after and people like I don't give a damn dude,

628
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: like it is. It is what it is, and so

629
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: you they're addicted and that's what it is. And direct

630
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: how do you how would you recommend that people kind

631
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: of get back to that space of not even just

632
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: like shutting your phone off. I mean, that's the easy route,

633
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: but it's really I think a deeper more what is it?

634
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: Almost a deeper uh framework of how you think and

635
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: like you said, it's how people aren't thinking critically anymore.

636
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: How would you what would be your advice to anybody

637
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: our age young people to just check themselves and to

638
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: kind of think through these narratives in a more uh

639
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: maybe not construct but a healthier way, I guess is

640
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: the best best.

641
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: So I think I I think this.

642
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Speaker 3: You know I give this advice to be every once

643
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: in a while, and you know my wife gives it

644
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: to me all the time. Is you know, instead of

645
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: being looking on your phone, like see what's in front

646
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: of you, like, do things in your community that make

647
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: a difference. Go out and talk to people in your community,

648
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: Talk to your neighbors, join some kind of group that

649
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: gives you purpose, that serves your community in some form

650
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: or fashion.

651
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: I was like, you'll see then like, no, there's not

652
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: that much hatred out there. There's not that much you know, division.

653
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: People are still able to talk no matter what side

654
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: of the aisle that you sit on. But if you

655
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: are on your phone twenty four to seven, I'm like,

656
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: that's what you think is going on in this country,

657
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: that we are completely divided and that's all that matters.

658
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: And one side hates the other. Obviously the extremes on

659
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: both sides have the loudest voices, so that's who you

660
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: think is representing the left or representing the right. But

661
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: if you put your phone down, you'll find the exact opposite.

662
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: And that is what I mean at the end of

663
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: the day, you know, going back to faith, that's what Jesus,

664
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, called for us to do, is be involved

665
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: in the community, do service, help others where you can.

666
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: And then I would think, you know, with these stories

667
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: that come out, that is, you know, if you really

668
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: want to dive into the truth of what's going on,

669
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: you're going to have to set aside some time and

670
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: actually do your own research because everything that's put out

671
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: there is obviously full of half truths, half lies, uh,

672
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, or find find somebody that you trust, like

673
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: a podcast or like if people watch your show or

674
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: somebody like, Okay, I want to know their thoughts, and

675
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: you don't have to take their thoughts at one hundred percent,

676
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: but at least get their perspective, get somebody else's perspective,

677
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: and form your own, you know, your own, your own decision.

678
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: I guess on what you think.

679
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a hard, diffical thing to do, right,

680
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Oh God, easier said than done.

681
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: And I honestly that's I was selling.

682
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: This is a more like pessimistic view that I get

683
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: every once in a while when I just get fed

684
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: up with because you can recommend or give advice to

685
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: people all day and they're like, oh yeah, they just keep.

686
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: Doing the same thing. I'm like, I think. I'm like, dude,

687
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: I just treat it now like life's a selection process.

688
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, just like when we were in Buds, I'm like, dude,

689
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: you're you. You've been told what to do, what the

690
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: standards are, what to meet. If you don't meet those,

691
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: you're gone, right, and you you have all the information

692
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: out there to do the work ahead of time. You know.

693
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: It was those guys that showed up at buzz that

694
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: within the first week, they're like, oh my gosh, I

695
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: didn't expect this or I'm quitting and you're like, what

696
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: did you not? Like look into this, and I realized

697
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: there was information back there, but there was enough to

698
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: know like this is the hardest training military the world

699
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: has teeth.

700
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

701
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Speaker 4: And so I look at it on the outside too.

702
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, there is enough information out there to make

703
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: informed decisions, but you have to go out there and

704
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: actually look for them. And I think people have just

705
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: gotten complacent and more relaxed and just being told what

706
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: to think. Uh, and they're like, Okay, that's what I

707
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: believe now. And it goes on to everything. It goes

708
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: your your health, your diet, your what you're putting in

709
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: your body. Like you know, people can sit there and

710
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: point fingers all day and they like, oh, well, they're

711
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: putting all these chemicals in our food and that's why

712
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm unhealthy. It's like, no one forced you to put

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: that in your mouth. Like you can look up on

714
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: your own and see what is out there. I mean,

715
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: there's especially now in this day and age, there's plenty

716
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: of information on what's healthy for you and what's not right. Yeah,

717
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, if you don't

718
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 3: want to do the research and you don't want to

719
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: be purposeful about looking after your own uh spiritual, emotional,

720
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: physical health, then you're deselecting yourself. Like I'm sorry, I

721
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: love at the end of the day, that's that's the

722
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: reality of the situation.

723
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Speaker 1: Life is a selection. I love that, man, that's genius.

724
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: And it's funny. You know when you get guys that

725
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: you train, because I know you do courses all over

726
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: the country. You know, you get these these men that

727
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: are showing up and I'm sure the ages are very

728
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, pretty right when they show up. Are are

729
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: you having these discussions in between, like during water breaks

730
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: or at lunch or dinner or whatever like are are

731
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: are are people seeking you out for more than just

732
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, tactical pistol in doc right or long rifle.

733
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Speaker 2: I'm sure like man, because.

734
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: You're you have a reputation for that kind of wisdom

735
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: and a willingness to discuss it and and the way

736
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: you deliver it, man is succinct. And it's to the point,

737
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: are you getting a lot of those questions too? When

738
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: you're out there training people?

739
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do, you know obviously, because Dave, I know

740
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: you were in the instructor space for a while, right,

741
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: And so you get a it's a mixed bag, and

742
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, you'll get some of the some of the

743
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: people that want to come out and really they just

744
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 3: want to like talk and you know instead of shoot,

745
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, they might want to shoot little bit, but

746
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: they want to sit there and bs and so if

747
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: they want to do that, then yes, I'll turn it

748
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: into a constructive conversation, you know, rather and they tell

749
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: me war stories or tell me this. It's like, now,

750
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: let's talk about something that's important, like what's going on

751
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: with you? What are you doing in your life? And

752
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: I'll be able to have those conversations with them. But then,

753
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: you know, obviously there's some people that don't, you know,

754
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: and they just want to train, which I'm about to

755
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, that's that's.

756
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: What we're here for.

757
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the people do want to come out and

759
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: have like conversations, and yeah, I'm willing to impart any

760
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: kind of wisdom or advice.

761
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: That I have.

762
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: And then I actually get a lot from it as well,

763
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: because you know, some some people that come out are

764
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: way more intelligent than I am, and you know, are

765
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: sitting there pouring into me.

766
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: So it goes both ways.

767
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Speaker 1: And that's what I love and I think when you

768
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: talk about because a lot of times, you know, people

769
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: in their their their regular lives, they're so busy raising kids,

770
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: they're they're working their brains off because everything's so expensive,

771
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, and they're just grinding. So when they do

772
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: cut out for something, is is you know, for them

773
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: as massive as it is to go take one of

774
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: your courses or go work with DJ or you know

775
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: all the guys out there that are really putting on

776
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: quality stuff. You know, it's like, oh, man, I have

777
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to a.

778
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 2: Warrior, what are they going to say?

779
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: And the thing that I found over the years and

780
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll still do you know, five six

781
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: courses a year just through you know, uh first trust

782
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: and I get the same thing, man, just like the

783
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: the event we did together when I first started there.

784
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing. It's like they want

785
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: to just hear our idea of it because it's like,

786
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: all right, it's quantifiable that they've gone through the selection process, right,

787
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: they've then they've gone down range well, what what have

788
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: they learned from all that? And so like yeah, that

789
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: and so like getting that opportunity for people to ask

790
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: those good questions instead of like.

791
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: Is it off a fake? Is it all just bullshit?

792
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: You know, instead of the conspiracy things.

793
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Man, Dude, I've had a couple of speeches in the

794
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: recent last year man that it's just been like I

795
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: answer questions for two and a half hours about about

796
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. It's like, I'm like, it is because it's

797
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: like whoa, whoa, whoa where did you get that?

798
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 2: Where?

799
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Like honestly, where did you where are you conclusive about

800
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: that information? And they're just like I saw it on

801
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: X you know, I saw it on the Gram, I

802
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: saw it on Facebook, you know, I saw it on

803
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: TikTok and I was like, okay, all right, well let's.

804
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 6: Let's let's be your answer right there, there's your answer, right.

805
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like, man, you know, I really

806
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on is so that you could

807
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: talk about some of that wisdom that you're employing in people,

808
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: because I know you're a public figure and people are

809
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: always wondering, all right, you know, how is how is

810
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: a guy like this going to process all that right,

811
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of preparation.

812
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: You know, obviously I.

813
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: I had sarah Ia Adams on and talk pretty extensively

814
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: about an active imminent threat. You know, when people hear

815
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: that sort of thing on on for those people that

816
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: are former you know, agency personnel or operators or whatever,

817
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: who are you know, tracking that doing that for a living?

818
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: You know, when you I'm sure like they see that

819
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: on in that and they come to you frenziers and like, yo, Eddie,

820
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: what the fuck over?

821
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: You know? Is this real? Do I need to like

822
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: get you know, how do you react to that?

823
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: What do you tell to people who are you know,

824
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: see something like Charlie get assassinated, seeing their snipers shooting

825
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: at ICE agents, seeing you know, telling there's an al

826
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Qaeda plot or terrorist plot that's going somewhere in the

827
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: country in the next few weeks. Like what do you

828
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: tell people to to one, you know, turn the dial down,

829
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: but two to also instill some confidence in them that

830
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, hey, if you think about it like this,

831
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: you'll you'll what is it, it's you'll you'll stabilize that

832
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: emotional unsteadiness.

833
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: What do you say to people?

834
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

835
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: As far as you know, with all the craziness that

836
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: goes on in our country, and you know, this is

837
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: what's happening right.

838
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: Now is nothing new.

839
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: I mean we've i think at this point, it's like, dude,

840
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 5: We've gone through about a decade of just insane craziness

841
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 5: and it just doesn't seem like it's going to stop

842
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: at any time.

843
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

844
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: What I tell people, man, is like again going back

845
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: to what we were talking about with community, is like, listen,

846
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: you can control what goes on in your house, in

847
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: your yard, and then in your community, right, get your

848
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: house stable, and then start branching out into your community, right,

849
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: But you should also know, like I'm like, the reality

850
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: is there is good and evil in this world.

851
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: That's that is That's.

852
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: The one truth that I can give you from my career,

853
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: Like that I know is solid. I'm like, there is

854
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: good and there's evil, and I've seen it, you know,

855
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: hands down, and so you do. While I tell people

856
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 3: like I'm like, don't you should not be living your

857
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: life in such like this ultra vigilant manner or like

858
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: I'm constantly on guard and like something's going to happen.

859
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you should not live your life like that.

860
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you should be aware that

861
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: evil does exist and you should have a lease plan

862
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: if you do encounter evil at some point, right, And

863
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: so I set a stress on yes, you should go train.

864
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: Now.

865
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Speaker 3: I understand that people have their own lives and their jobs,

866
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: and you.

867
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: Know, they don't have the time.

868
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: But what I tell them is, like, dude, all it

869
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: takes is doing like at least a couple of courses

870
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: to have that in confidence instilled in you, like, if

871
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: something does happen, at least I'm fifty percent confident that

872
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: I can react to this situation rather than zero percent confidence.

873
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: And that especially for men, I'm like, you're the protector

874
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: of the family, like that should be at least on

875
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 3: your top five priorities is if something does happen, I'm

876
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: confident and protecting my family. So, you know, I just

877
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: tell people to have some sort of a plan to

878
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: be prepared, but at the same time, don't live your

879
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: life in this heightened state.

880
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: And you know, I see them and a lot of them.

881
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: It's it's funny, you know with these when you get

882
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: out and you see these civilians that they're usually the

883
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: ones that are like, oh, I wish I.

884
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 4: Would have joined the military, but I never did.

885
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: So now they're like seem like they're trying to make

886
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: up for it in their civilian life, and they're like,

887
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: my back needs to be against you know, I need

888
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: to be looking at the exits and this and that.

889
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: And it's just like, hey, man, okay, whatever floats your boat.

890
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: But I just like living your life in that manner.

891
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 4: I just can't. I was like, where's the enjoyment?

892
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: Like you need to like let the gas off a

893
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: little bit, you know what I mean, and enjoy as

894
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: you have in front of you, Enjoy your family.

895
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: You know, they want to be a party.

896
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: So if you're constantly a hypervisilant, they're not getting your

897
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: full one hundred percent, you know what I mean. So

898
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: it's starting that fine line of like, hey, I'm prepared

899
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: if something does go down, but I'm also not going

900
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: to live my life and fear or be on guard

901
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: and be looking for it. I'm like, and also, you

902
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: know this day, if you're looking for it, you're going

903
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: to find it.

904
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, yeah for sure.

905
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: That's why I'm always just like I say the same thing, man, hey,

906
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: don't you know, but alleviate some of the worry by

907
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: just having a plan, training a little bit, know how

908
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: to use your weapon, you know, talk about it a

909
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: little bit. Like both my girls went to the mall

910
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: yesterday with friends and I'm like, hey, I walk into

911
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: their rooms. What do you do if there's an active shooter? Stop, look, listen,

912
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: figure out where it's coming from. Then figure out where

913
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: the exit is. And you all ask, Okay, great, have

914
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: fun with your friends. And now it's happened so much

915
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: like it's just like a little pre brief that's it.

916
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: But they don't. They're not walking around crazy and low crawling.

917
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: And going from from you know, fromming across the street.

918
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah they're they're not doing that. But it's just like, hey,

919
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: b heads up and that's it. And so we've integrated

920
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: into where it's not overwhelming for sure.

921
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: And I think asking the civilians just and the kids

922
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: to be heads up is yes, that's the biggest thing,

923
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: because I'll say this, their heads are down.

924
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 4: And their phone ninety percent of the day.

925
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: So I think that is that is definitely the best

926
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: advice you can give everybody. It's like, be heads up,

927
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: be aware of your surroundings.

928
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: That's it.

929
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: Just pay attention and it's just that and and you know,

930
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I think you know that a little bit of intuition

931
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: that can convert up to a little bit essay and

932
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: and you're there like and you don't need And then

933
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: then you can spend the ninety five ninety eight percent

934
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: of your other day looking towards the things that make

935
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: you happy, right, engaging with your friends and engaging going

936
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: to the gym and you know, going wakeboard and whatever

937
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: is that fires you up, like focus on that man,

938
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: and and and that gives you, like that that balance

939
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: because I think what I think what's happening now is,

940
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, the scale feels like it's tipped so far

941
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: one way towards this fatalistic Oh the sky's falling, everything sucks,

942
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: We're going into civil war, world War three, whatever it is.

943
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: You know that it just destroys people.

944
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: And what I try and say is, hey, you know,

945
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: you know, if you spend that much time just in

946
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: that space, that's what you're gonna get. But if you

947
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: spend you know, a little bit of time seeking out

948
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: those positive emotions, those positive things, man, the weight of

949
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: that like throws that scale right back down again. And

950
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't take merely as much effort on the negative, right, No,

951
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: And I.

952
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: Think if more people practice that, we'd have less of

953
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: a you know, mental health crisis and that we have

954
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 3: in this country, because I think that is another leading

955
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: cause of it is you know, people like you said,

956
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: that scale has been tipped, so people are walking around

957
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: on just like ashells and you know, have all sorts

958
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: of negative thoughts in their head because that's what they're

959
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: being fed all day. And it's like, yeah, that that

960
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: is going to cause you to have mental instability.

961
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: Yeah you're not. You're not immune to that, you know.

962
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, all right, I want to just pivot real quick,

963
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend too much time on it.

964
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: But there there is.

965
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: This growing division in the communities out there, right, and

966
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: I think we just the most recent thing we just

967
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: saw was, you know, the thing with uh, you know,

968
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Tig and Oz and and those guys, you know, and

969
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: even Jack came out and sent something to Sean that

970
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: he read about, you know, going against with apparently the

971
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: d boy guys that were there that day, and you know,

972
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: and I ended up getting this great call from a

973
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: buddy of mine that had been over there for a while,

974
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: and it was. He was just like, hey, man, like,

975
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: can you tell your you know it, would it be

976
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: possible to tone it down a little bit? You know,

977
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: like you know, these guys really went through a ton

978
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: of stuff to you know, get the plane, to get

979
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: the group to get over to benk Ozzie, to get

980
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: the militia to get there to get them. You know,

981
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: they really put out for that. And and so like,

982
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, I had, I had reposted what Sean had

983
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: said about Jack's letter he wrote in and because he

984
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: had reached out to me to get in touch with Sean,

985
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: and and uh, and then my other friend calls me

986
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: and tells me this, and so then I was just like, hey, man,

987
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: you know, I believe them. I believe them, But is

988
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: there a way we can get to a place where

989
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: we're not fighting each other? Like, let's fixate on let's

990
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: fixate on Hillary Clinton and what she did. Let's let's

991
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: fixate on you know, if it's like conventional guys. Now

992
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that pop up a lot, Like there's a

993
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: the conventional guys are pissed at the soft guys or

994
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, fucking for like eight months it was team

995
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: guys pissed at you know this, and and I know

996
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: and I know you spent some time in that as

997
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: a result of your interpretation of of that you know,

998
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: character verse ambition with with some of the stuff with Tim.

999
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: But you know, I think, you know, what are your

1000
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on how do we just like start to move

1001
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: away from that battle and figure out how to like

1002
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: come back to how to work together for the love

1003
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: of Jesus, man, please, That's that's all I want, is

1004
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: like to see some more love and like guys on

1005
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: and be like, oh dude, what you did was awesome.

1006
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: Oh what you did was awesome. Oh man, what we

1007
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: all did was great. And the people that fuck this

1008
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: fucked us, you know, but a little bit more of

1009
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: that unity.

1010
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: What what are your thoughts?

1011
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Brother?

1012
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: So I think, well, first I'll just say with all

1013
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: of the drama that has come to light out on

1014
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: social media or wherever the past like year with the

1015
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 3: vet community, and I'll say this, like, I think it's

1016
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: a bigger deal to us because we're involved in it.

1017
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: So that's obviously we see all that stuff right now.

1018
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: My algorithm shows me that kind of thing, and you know,

1019
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: and there's nothing wrong with that, Like we should be

1020
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 3: you know, concerned with the community that we came from,

1021
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 3: and if we're representing ourselves well and as a whole,

1022
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: not just special Operations and then infantry. It's like, as

1023
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: a whole, we're all on the same team. We all

1024
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: did the same thing. We all went over there and

1025
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: fought for our country.

1026
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I got to ask this, like, Hey, what

1027
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: what's the deal, Like, who's you know between Green Berets

1028
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: and seals and all this, And I was like, we're

1029
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: all equally gay. I was like, I'll tell you that

1030
00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 4: right now. That's where I'm at with it.

1031
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 6: I was like, dudeah, but but I do think you know,

1032
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: there's again going back to like social media and the

1033
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: pressure it puts on certain individuals, like you know, I see.

1034
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: Guys that when they get out and all.

1035
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: And I do, especially with team guys, like I don't

1036
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 3: care who are like, if you need help promoting whatever

1037
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: you're doing, I'll promote it. I want you to be successful.

1038
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: And what I've seen with certain individuals and they get

1039
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: to a point where they are starting to be successful,

1040
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 3: right and they're putting stuff out, well, then that's where

1041
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: this pressure comes in to be like Okay, if you

1042
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: want to remain relevant, you need to do more. You

1043
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: need to then become this character that people want to see,

1044
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: and some guys unfortunately go down that path and they

1045
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: create this character of themselves or like my story is

1046
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: the story, you know, and this and that, And I

1047
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: think that where the toxicity comes in because other individuals

1048
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: are like, that's not who that guy is.

1049
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: Like I worked with him, and i've you know, and

1050
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: I've seen it since I got out, and I don't

1051
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 4: I don't have any judgment on anybody, Like if they're

1052
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, that's the way you want to go,

1053
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: and that's how you want to portray yourself. They good,

1054
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: like more success to you.

1055
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: But I do think that there is a point where,

1056
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, speaking on you know, obviously the tim thing

1057
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: I did agree with with that like that being called

1058
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: out because I was like, okay, that right there is

1059
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: the definition, exact definition of stile valor. And I have

1060
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: no problem with guys calling it out because it was

1061
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: the truth and all the receipts came to light and

1062
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 3: it's like, yes, this happened, but I also knew and

1063
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: I actually talked to the anti hero guys about it

1064
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: when I went down there I was like, this will

1065
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: cause a cascading effect because you're getting a lot of

1066
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: you know, views and everything for this Tim Kennedy thing,

1067
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: and nothing wrong with that. I think what you guys

1068
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: are doing is right, and I think you're doing it

1069
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: in a very respectful manner. But what I see happening

1070
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: is there you have all these other veteran influencers who

1071
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: are like, well, I want a part of that, so

1072
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: now I'm going to be just report on negative stuff.

1073
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: And you see it across the board with these YouTube

1074
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: channels and some of these podcasts that these veterans have.

1075
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: It's once you go down that path into just promoting

1076
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: negativity and trying to take other people down, you're stuck

1077
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: like that's the only reason people are viewing you. That's

1078
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: your viewers are there just for the negative content. So

1079
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: the second you start trying to promote positive content or

1080
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: you're going to lose your viewership because that's where you've

1081
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: painted yourself in that corner. And I just think that

1082
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: over the past year, year and a half, it's gotten

1083
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: to a point where.

1084
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like ultra toxic.

1085
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: There's a lot more people, a lot more veterans out

1086
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: there promoting negativity to try and get views, and I

1087
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 3: you know, I think at some point I just wish

1088
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 3: the same as you, Like, hey, man, like, let's support

1089
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: each other.

1090
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: You know you don't. You don't have to like everybody either,

1091
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: like that you're saying.

1092
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was in the teams, I had guys

1093
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: and platoons that I freaking couldn't stand, you know, Like

1094
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go hang out with that person, but at

1095
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I would take a bullet

1096
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: for that person without question, because that is part of

1097
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: my team. That's somebody that's standing next to me as

1098
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: we go overseas. And I feel that same way on

1099
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: the outside, Like there's guys I see on social media

1100
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 3: who I don't agree with. I'm like, dude, I don't

1101
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: I don't like the way that guy's portraying himself whatever.

1102
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I'm like, I

1103
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: would still, you know, be friends with that person as

1104
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: long as they're not negatively attacking me or doing whatever.

1105
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: But I just think to it, and I think, like

1106
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: with Sean, with you, there are other individuals out there

1107
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 3: that are promoting positivity and helping better and you know,

1108
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: build themselves up. And I really hope that those people

1109
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: that are promoting that negativity that they'll see that eventually

1110
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: and be like, Okay, we need to stop this because

1111
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: and you know, with the whole Bengazi thing, I mean,

1112
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 3: I think with those guys, they've had.

1113
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 4: Drama from the start. Uh.

1114
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1115
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 4: I've talked to a couple of those individuals where they

1116
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: were writing the book.

1117
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: And there was a lot of infighting. So I mean

1118
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: that I don't you know, I don't know, that's that's

1119
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: on them. They need to figure that out between themselves

1120
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: and communicate. But dragging other units into it, being like, oh,

1121
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: this unit didn't do this, this unit didn't do that.

1122
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: It's like, dude, come on, yes they did. They did

1123
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 4: what they could.

1124
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I I you know,

1125
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean from the get go.

1126
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: And I've been doing this a long time now, man.

1127
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Like the one thing I realized early is, you know,

1128
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: and it goes back to what you had said about

1129
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: the way people are behaving online or what they're saying,

1130
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: and you know your kids are in that.

1131
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

1132
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: And then and then not only your kids or your family,

1133
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: or your friends or your community, but all the you know,

1134
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: the thousands or hundreds or millions in your case of

1135
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: people that are are you know, looking up to you,

1136
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a as as as an influence, as

1137
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: a positive influence. And I you know, I know, I

1138
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: think it's this you know, double edged sword with influence

1139
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: or whatever the shit that means. You know, it's you know,

1140
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I I I My whole

1141
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: thing is, Man, if I can, if I can help people,

1142
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, going back to that that story, like that

1143
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: you helped me with, and which is you know, being

1144
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: on on your knees in that cell, in that moment.

1145
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: If there's something that I can bring from my experience

1146
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: in those moments and give it to somebody else, man,

1147
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: that's worth it. And if there's a thousand dudes, you know,

1148
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: from infantry, army guys too, you know, aviators to flight

1149
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: crew guys to coastguard, I don't give a shit. Like, man,

1150
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: that's a positive thing. Because one of the thing we

1151
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: definitely need to do is we need to promote the

1152
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: reality of serving the country right and in particular now,

1153
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: I think more than ever, I think we need to

1154
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: have a resurgence of faith in the country. Yeah, there

1155
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: was many years where a lot of questionable stuff decisions

1156
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: at the upper echeland.

1157
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: But to go back to what you said.

1158
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: We did we we did what we did because of

1159
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: there was a core virtue in the effort. We knew

1160
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: that and it was the guy next to you. And

1161
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: so I think that core virtue if somehow that could

1162
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: be resonated or re or the revival in us of

1163
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: that's the mission, right, it's not. It's not going overseas

1164
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: and taking care of business anymore. But what it is

1165
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: over here is our mission now is to influence the

1166
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: young people that now America still is good. America still

1167
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: is a place of faith, America is still a place

1168
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: of supporting one another, and and we can embody that positivity,

1169
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: that motivation in a really significant, healthy way. I think,

1170
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's why you know, in twenty twenty or whatever,

1171
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: so many of us got canceled because they realize that

1172
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: whoever they is, you know whatever, you know that that

1173
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: ve entrepreneurs in the veteran space had so much of

1174
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: a voice building you know, that they started throttling us

1175
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: and you know, or canceled this and you know, Google

1176
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: just admitted it again, which was awesome to see they

1177
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: admit it. But I'd like to see some punishment, but

1178
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: that's all the story. But but but that's what I mean,

1179
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: that's what Christ wants us to do and to go

1180
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: back to that now. Yes, do you feel like your

1181
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: mission now is with what you you're doing in your

1182
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: life obviously raising a family, you know, supporting your your

1183
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: wife and your family, healing from the years and years

1184
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: of what you sacrifice, you know, is this other component

1185
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: a part of your mission now is to bring people

1186
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: to that space where you know they they can generate

1187
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: the tools to fight against that negative insurgency.

1188
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think like I had that

1189
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: planned out. And here's the thing, like I've when I

1190
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: was in you know when, especially when I took leadership roles,

1191
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: I wasn't. I never looked in myself like a outlaw'm

1192
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: a leader like I was, I'm in this role now,

1193
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: I need to be doing all this. I never changed

1194
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: what I did because I was like, if I'm going

1195
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: to lead, I'm going to lead by example. I'm not

1196
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: going to let my words like define it's my actions.

1197
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: And so that worked out well for me too, like

1198
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: in the teams, because you know, you really can't if

1199
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: you're in charge and people are like, oh, he's doing

1200
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: this and that.

1201
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: It's like, no, he's doing it.

1202
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: Like he's out there leading by example doing it, and

1203
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: really you don't get any you know, any really like

1204
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: fight against what you're doing because they're like, if you're

1205
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: doing that, then I'm going to do it. My leader

1206
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 3: can do that, then I can do it. And so

1207
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: I sort of take that same approach now where I'm

1208
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: not out there trying to like influence you to do something.

1209
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: I am going to be myself the same way I

1210
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: has always been, and I'm going to lead by example.

1211
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 3: I'm going to you know, talk about you know God.

1212
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to try and promote positivity. And one of

1213
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 3: my pillows and I've been doing it since I got

1214
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: out is getting the youth.

1215
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: To join the military.

1216
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: I've gotten more dudes to join since I've been out

1217
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: then I don't know what. And it's not because I've

1218
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: sat there and I told him, hey, you should go

1219
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: in the military. It's because I've hung out with them,

1220
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: spent time with them, and they look at me and

1221
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: they're like, whatever you're you're doing, I want like, because

1222
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: you have this drive and you you you have this discipline,

1223
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: have your day is regimented and you're doing all these things,

1224
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you can have that because I didn't

1225
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: have that at your age.

1226
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: What gave me that was the military was the Marine Corps.

1227
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 4: When I went in, I'm like that I was raising

1228
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: them by the Marines. And I tell people, I got

1229
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 4: my associates with the Marines. I got my bachelors with

1230
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: the Marine Snipers, and then I got my Masters with

1231
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: the Seal Teams. I'm like, that is what my whole

1232
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: life has been.

1233
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if that's if that it drives you

1234
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: to go join the military, then good.

1235
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of you know, for our.

1236
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 3: Youth, and I can only speak to like because I

1237
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: haven't gotten any females to join, but like for males

1238
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: at eighteen nineteen years old, a lot of them are

1239
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: lost and they have no direction, and especially in today's society,

1240
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: a lot of them spend all their time on screens,

1241
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: watching YouTube, doing all so when it's time to actually

1242
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: pick their head up now and it's like, hay Son,

1243
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: you're nineteen years old, it's time to go into the

1244
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 3: real world. A lot of these kids aren't, These boys

1245
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: aren't set up for it. So I do like give them, hey,

1246
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: this is an avenue, Like you go join the military,

1247
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: even if it's only for five years. The military is

1248
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: going to give you plenty of opportunities to do things.

1249
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: But what it's going to do is set you up

1250
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: for success later on down the road, Like it's going

1251
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: to give you that discipline you need. It's going to

1252
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: show you what discipline is, show you how to regiment

1253
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: your day.

1254
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: And you know it's.

1255
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: I've had, like I said, multiple guys join and they're

1256
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: all in right now, and none of them regret their decision.

1257
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: They're like, dude, thank you for you know, for showing

1258
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: me the way, like I love it here.

1259
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: Or there's some that are like, hey man, I'm gonna

1260
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 3: do my time get out, but now i have an

1261
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: avenue to go to when I get out. And I

1262
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 3: think it's just a good thing that these kids are

1263
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: proud to serve their country, you know, and this is

1264
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: a country worth serving. I honestly think my thoughts only

1265
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, I think our youth at a certain age,

1266
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: like other countries, mandatory service and not I'm not talking

1267
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: about the military like that could be it, but also

1268
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: serve your country in some capacity so you earn your

1269
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 3: spot here. You really appreciate what this country has to offer,

1270
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: and I think that's that's missing with our.

1271
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 4: Youth as well.

1272
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot of entitlement, which is why you see

1273
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: these college you know, kids or whatever. They're like, oh,

1274
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: I hate this country, and it's like I feel sorry

1275
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: for them because you're like, you.

1276
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 4: Have no you haven't like you're talking out of your

1277
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: ass because you've never been anywhere. You've just been told

1278
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 4: these things.

1279
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: So I think that uh, you know, mandatory service would

1280
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: be great, but you know, if they don't do that,

1281
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: I I think serving your country in the military is

1282
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: one of the most honorable things that you can do,

1283
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: and it earns your spot here.

1284
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: I agree wholeheartedly.

1285
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: And uh, you know what I'm looking forward is when

1286
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: you get that PhD and and and uh your your

1287
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: spiritual revival capacity. Right when whatever we start figuring out,

1288
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: there'll be some epic you know, uh stadium where Eddie's

1289
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: out there in front of preaching the word to at first,

1290
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: and then if you do it revival, I promise you

1291
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: I will be there with you.

1292
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm the barker, I'm the big top guy. I'll get

1293
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: everybody inside. I awesome.

1294
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: Well Eddie, Man, I love you so much, thank you

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Speaker 1: so so much for this.

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Speaker 2: God bless you and your family. Man, and just thank you.

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Speaker 4: God bless you brother.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me all Man and Dave, we

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Speaker 3: love you, we love your whole family, and let's link

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Speaker 3: up soon in person.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely amen,