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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: And speaking of musical talents, our two guests today host

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Speaker 2: a wonderful podcast about another musical powerhouse one, Bruce the

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Speaker 2: Boss Springsteen, New Jersey's very own. I know very little

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Speaker 2: about Bruce Springsteen aside from what I get just sort

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Speaker 2: of ambiently from being an American, But after listening to

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Speaker 2: their podcast, I'm starting to understand things a little bit

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Speaker 2: better better, at least from a completely new perspective, which

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Speaker 2: I really enjoy. They are the hosts of the podcast

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Speaker 2: because the Boss belongs to us. Asking the question, look,

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Speaker 2: is Bruce Springsteen actually one of the greatest queer icons?

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Speaker 2: Then they have a very emphatic answer to that question.

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Speaker 2: Please welcome to the microphone, Please live in to the microphone,

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Speaker 2: Jesse Lawson and Holly Cassio.

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Speaker 3: Much for.

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Speaker 2: To have you, oh of course, and we do want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge Jesse you are currently both of our guests

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Speaker 2: are coming live from the UK right now. But Jesse,

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Speaker 2: you do live near a main road and ambulance station,

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Speaker 2: so if there is some ambience, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm a radio producer. That is my job, and I

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Speaker 3: have the West House for requiting it.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you're just in the middle of the street,

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Speaker 4: right right, We love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, is that one of those zoom

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Speaker 2: backgrounds where it looks like they're in a house and

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Speaker 2: they may just be sort of sitting like on the

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Speaker 2: high road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting outside.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you. Uh, Like I said

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Speaker 2: at the top, like I I don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: Ruce Springsteen. A lot of people like you'd like him. Man,

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Speaker 2: he's from New Jersey, from the valley out here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I respect that, I guess, But tell

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Speaker 2: us a little bit about your podcast because I also

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Speaker 2: love that, you know, as sort of in the description

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Speaker 2: of your show too, you also asked the question why

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Speaker 2: you the host transactivist, abolitionist, DIY punk, drag king, working

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Speaker 2: class weirdos. What are y'all doing? Idolizing assist straight rich

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Speaker 2: white man.

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Speaker 4: Well done forgetting that out in one take, because we

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Speaker 4: can never do that in one straight text.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm good. I'm good as a professional dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can tell.

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Speaker 3: You can tell.

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Speaker 4: I think you are actually our target audience because I

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Speaker 4: think we talk a lot about Bruce Sprinksy and we

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Speaker 4: get very very nerdy about it, and we forget that

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Speaker 4: actually other people outside of yeah the myth of Bruce

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Speaker 4: sprinks and a lot of people don't know about him

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Speaker 4: and like who he really is, including us. We're kind

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Speaker 4: of making up as we go along, but we do

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Speaker 4: a lot of very big, deep dives into who we

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Speaker 4: think he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would say like that was my experience.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the So I got into Bruce

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Speaker 3: Springsteen when I was in my early twenties, and before

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Speaker 3: that point I hadn't thought that much about him because

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Speaker 3: he is, like, you know, one of his album covers

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Speaker 3: has the American flag, right, everyone says that he's the

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Speaker 3: same as bon Jovi, Like I just like I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: this isn't for me. And then I had the kind

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Speaker 3: of like classic experience that lots of people we talked

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Speaker 3: became obsessed with him. So yeah, I think like that's

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Speaker 3: something we talk about a lot on the show. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a real Bruce who lives in New Jersey, and

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Speaker 3: there's a Bruce that we've projected all of our thoughts

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Speaker 4: And it's really weird because sometimes you think, like I'm

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Speaker 4: getting all this queer stuff from Bruce, what on earth

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Speaker 4: are other people getting? Like you look around were like

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Speaker 4: I love America, Ali Bruce Brigstey and it's like, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I think most Americans things go over our

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're really under estimating how stupid we

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Speaker 2: The lyric sheets Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: That did like, yeah, that literally happened, isn't it. Because

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Speaker 3: Trump passed Bruce Springsteen to play his inauguration, Yeah, which

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Speaker 3: is about like workers rights and unionization.

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Speaker 5: Right, We've only sent worse too, because like now you

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Speaker 5: have like every other day, uh, Tom Morello will tweet

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Speaker 5: oh I missed when rage wasn't woke, And it's like,

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Speaker 5: how completely inept a media criticism do you have to

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Speaker 5: be to think they were like your ears work?

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Speaker 2: Right? Have you just heard down rowdale a brownskin man

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Speaker 2: says their grandparents buy one. It's so great? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was fun hearing you both like discover Suddenly it's like, wait,

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Speaker 2: like I'm I'm guessing. Like anything, it's always fun to

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we we are legion. I think that's what

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Speaker 4: we discovered that the podcast is there are so many

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Speaker 4: of us out there, and I think secretly we've done

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Speaker 4: this just to make more friends because everyone we talk

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Speaker 4: to there's just so many queer fans out there that

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Speaker 4: hear his lyrics or see him and don't know whether

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Speaker 4: they actually want to be him or whether they want

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Speaker 4: to make out with him.

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Speaker 3: They're not quite sure.

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Speaker 4: There's so many of us, it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: To be clear.

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Speaker 5: The reason anyone starts a podcast is to make friends.

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Speaker 5: That's just letting you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are best friends right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like I'm coming to I'm going to

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Speaker 2: ask to crash at your places when I'm in the

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Speaker 2: UK next time. This is how friends to me from

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Speaker 2: the podcast about fifteen months ago. If you remember, I

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Speaker 2: hear and I have Nando's, I'm willing to share, you know,

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Speaker 3: On the noisy, busy street that I live on, there

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Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Well call me, you know, Perry, mister Perry Perry.

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Speaker 2: The thing. I also got to add, what's like in

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Speaker 2: your opinion? What's like Spruceting's Spruce Spruce Stings? Yeah? What

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Speaker 2: Springsteen's like most based song that you like? Man, people

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Speaker 2: need to fucking actually listen to this track, like to

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Speaker 2: really just to kind of blow up in your mind

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Speaker 3: Great question?

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Speaker 4: So many I mean, the born in the USA is

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Speaker 4: like the really obvious one that everyone's kind of aware of, the.

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Speaker 5: One that's about loving the USA right absolutely, yeah unions, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just sucking that flag. But like he, I think the

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Speaker 4: Dancing in the Dark, which sounds like it's just pop banger,

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Speaker 4: Like it's just a hop pit everyone knows, and it's

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Speaker 4: just a song about bleak depression and isolation and darkness

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Speaker 4: and queerness if you want to hear it. But it's

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Speaker 4: just such an unbelievably sad, deep song that goes on

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Speaker 2: I always thought there was a song about how to

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Speaker 2: with Park. Is that what you're doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah and so yeah, So I figured it was just

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Speaker 5: like teach America how to make more fires.

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Speaker 2: We have that fire in your heart. They're called gender reveals,

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Speaker 2: and we do them in dry areas to start wildfires.

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Speaker 3: It's I saw one of them in real life the

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Speaker 3: other day, which I thought it was just an American thing.

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Speaker 3: I go swimming with a bunch of all of us

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Speaker 3: and and when they revealed they were like, it's a boy,

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Speaker 3: and we were like for nowa.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keep telling them that what is something from your

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Speaker 2: search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're into.

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Speaker 6: Let's go take a look. Okay, Coming Up Roses lyrics

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Speaker 6: so Elliott Smith again. Wow, and then effective Internet on

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that tells you everything. I'm sorry. The effect on

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Speaker 2: GDP of the early Internet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the effect of Internet on GDP in early nineties. Okay,

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Speaker 6: someone posted in the Internet in the early days. It

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Speaker 6: doesn't Actually, it also didn't affect anything, and it absolutely did.

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Speaker 6: Like this, we'll get onto the Goldman Sacks report, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: they like none of this compares to the early Internet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just sorry. I know the song Coming Up Rose,

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Speaker 2: But as I look at the lyrics of Coming Up

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Speaker 2: It'll kill you in time. Your old white brother will

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Speaker 2: ride in your blood like spun glass and soure eyes.

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Speaker 6: White Brother thats Elliot Smith. He was a big rap fan.

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Speaker 8: He was doing him and he had him a l

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Speaker 8: cool J at the time. We're trading distracts.

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Speaker 2: So that, oh my god, White Kendrick, that would could

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Speaker 2: you imagine? Yeah, it doesn't even make sense, Like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I'm sure people would take that to like

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Speaker 2: in a way. Yes, I agree, Andrew. What's something you

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Speaker 2: think is underrated?

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Speaker 9: Underrated? Gross recipes that are way too much work?

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Speaker 9: I had been saving. So so let's see about like

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Speaker 9: a fucking year ago. We got my friend for her

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Speaker 2: Than three My god, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was a very expensive hawk And because I'm like,

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Speaker 9: I guess, because I just like like, I kind of

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Speaker 9: was like, I guess I'm cheap. Ultimately, because as we

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Speaker 9: were carving up this harmone, you know, there's all the

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Speaker 9: fat on the rind, and I was just like a

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Speaker 9: maniac like saving all these pieces of harmone rhynde. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: because I was like, this shit was like I don't

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Speaker 9: even know, like probably like forty dollars a pound. This

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Speaker 9: fat is like one of the most expensive substances I've

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Speaker 9: and that it's been in my freezer for way too long,

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Speaker 9: I guess, you know, fat connoisseurs, let me know how

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Speaker 9: I fucked up. But I was having a day where

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Speaker 9: I like really really did not want to do anymore writing,

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Speaker 9: and you guys hadn't called me to get on the podcast,

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Speaker 9: I fat washed so much Costco.

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Speaker 2: You created a ebertical Harmone fat washed bourbon Costco burb. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Washed with one thousand dollars fat that you buy fat. Okay,

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Speaker 9: It took me forever. Yeah, I mean, come come through.

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Speaker 2: all gonna show up. He's gonna feed wash. Let's stop

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Speaker 10: You know what, I know, I wish like I wish,

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Speaker 2: Sorry, y'all, life is just more important sometimes than these microphones.

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Speaker 9: And then it'll be like, tweet out a picture of

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Speaker 10: Tweet up and teet out a picture of us like

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Speaker 6: And nobody would be mad or you leave.

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Speaker 2: The mics rolling the whole time. We all leave with

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Speaker 2: that'll be great for ads. Overrated, Chris, what's some any

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Speaker 11: I know this is a controversial one because people come

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Speaker 11: a cup of bean water. I don't understand it. Coffee

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Speaker 11: Hundred percent correct, And that is that's the gentlest way

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Speaker 2: No, not even because I'm the same way like I'm

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Speaker 2: Like, we do not need this. Oh shit, yeah we're redlining.

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Speaker 12: I love so I love coffee, but to your point,

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Speaker 2: Of mine started weighing the water, you know, because like

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, just a simple cup is fine it in

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Speaker 11: I think we've gone a little far. Is waiting that

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Speaker 11: line making you happy? Like I fell into this where

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Speaker 11: my wife got me an espresso machine, I think for Christmas, But.

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Speaker 2: You also have a wife I do, and we'll be.

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Speaker 11: Listen to this podcast wherever you find your podcast fail

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Speaker 12: I just tried to high five Chris from across the

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Speaker 2: I just losself Express team whatever you want to call

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Speaker 12: Because they were all like, oh, I measure the bean

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Speaker 12: I like it. Like to Chris's point, you don't have

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Speaker 2: You're like, that is babe, which espresso machine do we have?

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Speaker 2: It's a curing. It's a curing. Okay, okay, so none

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Speaker 2: of this stuff applies. Here's what's incredible about about humans,

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Speaker 2: do it. We're like so desperate to fit in that

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Speaker 2: Just punting the espresso machine to the curb and shit,

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Speaker 2: I need to make more money.

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Speaker 11: It's like, yeah, I do think that if you spend

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Speaker 11: there should be a pop up this as you need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, uh ah, your income is not high

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Speaker 7: Like they got like one of those insane espresso machines

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Speaker 2: And like you go and it really is like it's

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Speaker 2: That would have been really nice, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: And it makes total sense. I mean, you know, like

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Speaker 5: it just you know, for anyone who's been paying attention,

436
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Speaker 5: you just sit there knowing how much worse it acts.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's people willing to engage with the

438
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Speaker 2: news and not sort of look away like I think

439
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: most people tend to do because it's horrifying. But again,

440
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Speaker 2: this is these are sort of like the stakes I

441
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Speaker 2: think that people have to understand when you look at

442
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Speaker 2: like how a government works and what you wanted to

443
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Speaker 2: do or not do. These are the kinds of things

444
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Speaker 2: that factor into it. And I know, like again, like

445
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Speaker 2: you look at the polling for the support just in

446
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Speaker 2: America for actually having some kind of meaningful ceasefire. It's overwhelming. Yeah.

447
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: And yet again, because we have a military industrial complex

448
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: that needs constant feeding of funds, this is what we get,

449
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Speaker 2: and this is like you know, and I think a

450
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Speaker 2: lot of there's so many. It's not just even in

451
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Speaker 2: like armed conflict. I remember even with Hurricane Maria right

452
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Speaker 2: in Puerto Rico, there there was this amount of deaths

453
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Speaker 2: that the sort of US government was sort of like

454
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Speaker 2: and only like if you like, maybe a couple of

455
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Speaker 2: people died, but when you actually really look at the

456
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Speaker 2: entirety of it, the lack of power and access to

457
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Speaker 2: medical care and like clean water and things, and what

458
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Speaker 2: that actually did for other people, it was much higher.

459
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Speaker 2: And I think people really need to take this into consideration,

460
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Speaker 2: or at least I don't think anyone listening to this

461
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Speaker 2: show is like I'm on the fence about what's happening

462
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Speaker 2: in Caset, But you know this, And I.

463
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Speaker 3: Think what you said about the military industrial complex is

464
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Speaker 3: really important as well, because it's like, I don't think

465
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Speaker 3: it's a tool meaningful for the head of the CIA

466
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Speaker 3: to go and quote unquote cool for a seaspire when

467
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Speaker 3: America is selling that many arms to Israel? Right, do

468
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Speaker 3: you see what I mean?

469
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Speaker 2: Like that it's your money faith factor in that if

470
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Speaker 2: you're like, well, I profit from this Contyeah.

471
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Speaker 5: And he would be clear in saying, oh, I am

472
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Speaker 5: not calling for a seaspire. I'm trying to broker a

473
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Speaker 5: negotiation in which we eventually get the whole permanent seaspire

474
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Speaker 5: taken off the table, and which is kind of where

475
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Speaker 5: it's at right now. Yeah, that is where it's at.

476
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Speaker 5: The latest proposal, the Hamas has actually agreed to take

477
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Speaker 5: out the first demand of a permanent sea spire in

478
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Speaker 5: favor of all the other demands. And it's just like,

479
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Speaker 5: you know, we just keep going around and circles until

480
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Speaker 5: somebody with power in the United States admit, could that

481
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Speaker 5: be Yeah, that Israel is acting in bad faith at

482
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Speaker 5: all times?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Really, well that leads us to our predicament here

484
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Speaker 2: with the presidential race. Just just what polls are meaningless,

485
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Speaker 2: but they're they're fun to just talk about because obviously

486
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Speaker 2: they they'd never actually end up the way you hear

487
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Speaker 2: about it. Oh, but it's like fantasy football. Let's have

488
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Speaker 2: a good time. You know, it's a Snapshotow what a

489
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Speaker 2: couple maybe forty five people are thinking that they pulled

490
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Speaker 2: and then extrapolated that to the entire populace. But a

491
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Speaker 2: new poll showed that Biden is trailing Trump, but in

492
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Speaker 2: the same amount. It's forty two to forty three percent,

493
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Speaker 2: but because of the speculation around Biden staying in or

494
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Speaker 2: dropping out, their survey also looked into how other Democratic

495
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Speaker 2: candidates would stack up in the election, including Gavin Newsom,

496
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Speaker 2: Michigan governor Gretchen Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who both came out

497
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Speaker 2: behind Trump. But you know who ran ahead of Trump

498
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: forty two percent to forty one percent was Kamala Harris.

499
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Speaker 2: And guess what when you pair Kamala Harris with Hillary Clinton,

500
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Speaker 2: it put Democrats quote in the strongest position beating Trump

501
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Speaker 2: forty three percent to forty percent. I this feels like.

502
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Speaker 13: Such at least fun Yeah, we're gonna lose.

503
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Speaker 5: Let it be funny, That's what I say. Come on,

504
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: oh man, well I mean again.

505
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Speaker 2: Also, this feels like the absolute kind of thing where

506
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Speaker 2: like the Polster class is.

507
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Speaker 7: Like, man, just get something out there that really shows

508
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 7: like anything. But this could work because we were cheerleading

509
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 7: it the whole time. But now suddenly we're feeling the

510
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 7: heat because we were the ones.

511
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Speaker 2: That were keeping this guy here.

512
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Speaker 4: Oh oh, I honestly don't know how you're cupping because

513
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: when we had our election, they have like six weeks

514
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: build up to it. But you guys have like a

515
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Speaker 4: whole year of this, don't you.

516
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Speaker 2: Have two years? Yeah, so much, because everything is about

517
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: again generating as much money as possible. If you're allowed

518
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: to campaign so far out, that means everybody from the campaign,

519
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: like strategicy, you know, industry, they start getting their checks,

520
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: the polsters start getting their checks. That's like, that's what

521
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: it's all about. And yeah, I mean, like I wish

522
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: we had like more again, like we've also deemed that

523
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: corporations are people that have a legitimate voice in our election,

524
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: so you know, to do with that what you will. Yeah,

525
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: but like you know, other countries have like, you know,

526
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Speaker 2: harder rules, like everyone has the same budget go and

527
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: you have the same amount of time go. But again,

528
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: because we are that's on amritocracy, built on you know,

529
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Speaker 2: the corporate kleptocracy.

530
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Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's point difficult. Unfortunately, how do you guys

531
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Speaker 5: do it? You guys have one of them parliaments?

532
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Speaker 2: Is that right? I used to do drugs out of

533
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Speaker 2: those yeah yeah yeah, cigarette never mind, yeah yeah.

534
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like the cocaine cigarette.

535
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Speaker 2: No, But yeah, I mean, how how what is like

536
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: sort of the your election season, Like what is yeah?

537
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: How like how quickly does it sort of explode and

538
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: then fade away?

539
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: It's very very quick turn.

540
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: We're slowly getting boiled over here.

541
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: It's like six weeks they announce the election, You've got

542
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: six weeks to prepare. But obviously, the way things have

543
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: been going to everyone's knew that an election was coming

544
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: up anyway, So I thinks have been moving around and

545
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: it's just NonStop debates, waterwell polls, news headlines. But six

546
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: weeks of that feels more bearable than a whole year,

547
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: two year cycle of that that's just non stop.

548
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, we have a huge chunk

549
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: of our economy is election money. So you know, true,

550
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: you have to keep into account that if you shorten elections,

551
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Speaker 5: you know what are Pundit's going to do for the

552
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Speaker 5: rest of the four years.

553
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Speaker 2: You know what are they going to talk about sports policy? Now?

554
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 4: Well, if Biden doesn't win, then you can always start

555
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: a really blanned podcast with Bruce Springsteen when he comes

556
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 4: out of office.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oba together, Yeah right, Oh gosh, that was a

558
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: wild one, wasn't it.

559
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Speaker 4: What did you I like to think that doesn't exist?

560
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: I wiped it for my brain.

561
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: What did you make of that? As Boss fans, I have.

562
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: Not listened to it.

563
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Can you even bring yourself to listen to well?

564
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 4: We had to listen to it for research purposes podcast.

565
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: I was looking for a quote and I had to

566
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 4: say through ten minutes of it and it's the most

567
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: insipid liberal nonsense.

568
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: It's just nothing.

569
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: It's just no one's saying anything on that podcast. No

570
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: one is saying anything.

571
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: Right, right, right? I love Yeah, that's the and that's

572
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: the thing about that. Uh huh.

573
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Speaker 5: And I want to I want to listen to this

574
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 5: and just tune out. I want to I want to

575
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: listen to it and stare at a blank wall.

576
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: For a while.

577
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, sleep gently.

578
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Speaker 2: This is like, I think this is what's so wild too,

579
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: because I hear from older people too. They're like, I mean,

580
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: you guys gotta fit, you know, you gotta stay, you

581
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: gotta get in line, you know, and and support like

582
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: this candidate. And there's there's a huge dimension that is

583
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: always missing from the discourse around how younger people look

584
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: at a presidential candidate. These days, we have had like

585
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: back to back to back economic like suplexus that broke

586
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: our fucking souls, and when we look at only increasing inequality,

587
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: we're becoming so much more aware of the prison industrial complex,

588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: over policing, the mismanagement of funds and where they go

589
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: and who it supports. That everyone is now being like,

590
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: the status quo is fucking violence. Like people don't understand that.

591
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: That's like, that's my default position. The status quo is violence.

592
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: And I know that for a you know, a very

593
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: fortunate few, life is very peaceful and you have no

594
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: existential threats to your personhood or anything like that. But

595
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: for many other people that is not the case, and

596
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: like to not acknowledge that sort of like anger, frustration,

597
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: fear that exists and just be like, well, you know,

598
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: we just got just just to figure it out. Don't

599
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: worry about all these other things you guys are crowing about.

600
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Just get behind the candidate. It's such a fucking slap

601
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: in the face. And I wish there's a way that, like,

602
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the at the very again, the

603
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: bare minimum, right could be the Biden campaign being like, look,

604
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: this isn't a great fucking deal here, and we understand

605
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: that a lot of shit can be better. We can

606
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we can try to do some stuff,

607
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: but trying like it's nothing like that. It's just being

608
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: beat over the head with like, well then you want fascism, No,

609
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: we fucking don't. That's why so many people in their

610
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Speaker 2: communities do what they have to do to fight that off.

611
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Speaker 5: Kind of seems like you guys want fascism, being that

612
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: you are willing to just lose an election to Trump

613
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: because all of you are too afraid to put your

614
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Speaker 5: own careers on the line well and back a different candidate.

615
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Speaker 4: You know, it sounds very so much to what we

616
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: just had in the UK as well. I think everyone was.

617
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Speaker 4: I think the last six weeks have just been feeling

618
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Speaker 4: so guilty that we don't vote Labor then my voting

619
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: in fascism. But right that it's like saying that people say,

620
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: isn't It's like you're voting the lesser of two evils,

621
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: but forgetting you're still voting for evil at the end

622
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: of the day. Like it's not you're not voting with

623
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: herp in your heart, you're not voting with an actual choice.

624
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: You're voting because it's slightly less fascist than the big fascist.

625
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: But when labor on actually offering an alternative or opposition

626
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: then that just allows fascism to grow even more. So

627
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: what is the point in.

628
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: That, right?

629
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Speaker 3: And that's what's so exciting. I know we can talk

630
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: about it more later, but that's what's so exciting about

631
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: the election results in France is that it was like

632
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: a left wing, a genuinely left wing coalition that like

633
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: surpassed the two party system. And that's a really really

634
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: exciting thing that you can actually vote for something that

635
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: you do believe in.

636
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the videos of all the right wing French people

637
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: like studying for the returns to come heartwarming, Absolutely ashen faced.

638
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Yeah, this is what

639
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: I have to hold on to as my country falls apart,

640
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: and so be it. At least I had that. But yeah,

641
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, like that's the thing. We we understand, many

642
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: people understand the stakes. No, I'm not voting for Donald Trump.

643
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ever support him or his or

644
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: his candidacy. But unfortunately, I'm like, well, the only other

645
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: option is this other thing. But I, as a voter,

646
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: feel completely unheard on so many other issues. That's where

647
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: my resentment comes in as a voter, because I'm like,

648
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: you guys fucking wore Kinte Claudes in the Capitol talking

649
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: about you were gonna do something about over policing and

650
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: white supremacy. You've made all these fucking noises about the

651
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: pandemic and people's safety, and then there's like all the

652
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: fucking safety measures got pulled out from under people. You're

653
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: talking about there's so many things on the agenda, and

654
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Speaker 2: I get that there are other things that happen, but

655
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: there are a lot of voters who are like, come

656
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: from these marginalized groups, or people are just looking at

657
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: their own situation and say, the status quo will actually

658
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: be the end of me, Like, if things keep going

659
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: as it is, this will be the end of me.

660
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: So I need to hear something different. And a lot

661
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: of people resent the fact that the only thing they're

662
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: hearing is well, you better get you or you want fascism.

663
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: It's that that's so fucked up, Like you have to

664
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: acknowledge what people are going through. And it doesn't mean

665
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: you're conceding the election by acknowledging these things, but there

666
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: this is and I think this is a situation where

667
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: I think Americans have become so used to being like, well,

668
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: I have to vote for the Democrat because that as

669
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: a binary, yeah, that's the better decision. But they're also

670
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: for the status quo, which still means death, which means violence,

671
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: which means inequality, and that is like the biggest things

672
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: we're trying to contend with. So anyway things are going

673
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: right over here? How do you just get that off

674
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: my chest? It's just very it's just a difficult time.

675
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Speaker 3: And it's just not a choice, is it, as you say, like,

676
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: that's just not no, that's like, yeah, no one has

677
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Speaker 3: an agency there.

678
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Speaker 2: The other way too, I look at it is like

679
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: to be more involved in local politics and more things

680
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: involved with your community. Guess what that the gains that

681
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: you can make would look easier if the Democrats kept

682
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: the White House versus the Republicans taking the White House,

683
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: and then what that means like just downwardly just in

684
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Speaker 2: terms of an overall policy. But even then it's like

685
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: that's that's the most like some people can like latch

686
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: on just like well, at least it won't be worse.

687
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: And I think that's just such a defeatist like position

688
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: to be trying to to change the country from that. Yeah,

689
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a huge issue it's a huge

690
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: issue and I really wish that the I really wish

691
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: our capitalist overlords would take the ills of capitalism seriously.

692
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Speaker 4: Oh maybe if we ask them nicely, they will, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

693
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Speaker 3: There's like it's a tough one as well, isn't it.

694
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't know about the US and

695
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: the UK, there have been some studies that show, like,

696
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: you know, big lobbying organizations and places like that like

697
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: do a lot less under a labor government than under

698
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Speaker 3: a Tory government, even if similar things are happening, because

699
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: there's this like perception that's them are left is like

700
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Speaker 3: safer and better. So it's like a it's a hard

701
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: balance I think with that as well, where you're like, no,

702
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: we actually still need to like really keep mobilizing and yeah,

703
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: taking to the streets and doing all the things that

704
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Speaker 3: we were doing under the tour.

705
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Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm I'm not I think anyone's under the

706
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: impression it's like it's it's gonna be a top down

707
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: solution here. It's like, no, that's why you have to

708
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: pour into things like locally, because that that's your immediate environment.

709
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: Joe Biden doesn't give a fuck about North Hollywood or

710
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: the San Fernanda doesn't give a fuck unless he has

711
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: a fundraser there. But like the people that do, those

712
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: are the people you live with, and those are the

713
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: people that you need to have the bonds with to

714
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, resist any kind of real bullshit, like you know,

715
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: totally like federally organized bullshit that might be in our

716
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: future anyway. So uh, let's move on to flirting. Good exactly?

717
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: You know that, guys? Does we like violent jarring fucking transitions? Baby?

718
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: But anyway, ten Z, look, I'm glad, like millennials, we

719
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: are officially washed and have become the hollowed out husks

720
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: of what was once considered cool. Gen Z now has

721
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: the man, and now y'all are the generation that is.

722
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Speaker 14: Killing an industry or destroying this custom whatever the fuck

723
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 14: they used to say about us. The latest body that

724
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 14: gen Z caught now is that they've fucking it's the

725
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 14: end of flirting. They have killed flirting.

726
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: I really want to read this New York Post opening

727
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 2: paragraph because the New York Courts Post very conservative, really

728
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: fucking stupid, and this is how they this is like

729
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: their sort of vibe and talking about a gen Z

730
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: killed flirting quote Liking an Instagram story or sliding into

731
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: someone's DMS are ways to express romantic interest in the

732
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: digital age, but technology may actually have made it harder

733
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: for singles trying to score a date. Gen z Ers

734
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: especially struggle to master the art of flirting in an

735
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Speaker 2: era of social media and dating apps. Quote. I think

736
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: flirting is dying. Los Angeles resident Nicky san Janco's twenty

737
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: four told NBC if someone thinks you're cute, they just

738
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: ask you for your Instagram these days and then DM

739
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: you or swipe up on your story to show they're interested.

740
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Speaker 2: The state of dating today has been described as ext

741
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: as women online lament the nightmarish difficulties of trying to

742
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: find a man night Marriagh bro It's Freddy Krueger up

743
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: in my dms? What the fuck is this? Like eighties

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: rom com narrator version of society. It's like, Kathy's just

745
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: a woman trying to find a man. Yeah. Like the

746
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: article mostly bashes gen Z like sort of painting them.

747
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: It's like just super awkward and so online, like they

748
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: don't know how to even talk to another person. And

749
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: I get the social anxiety part, like we even it's

750
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: as millennials, we also have that. Yeah, but like buried

751
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: in this bullshit is like a line about how younger

752
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: people are opting to try and just date in person

753
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: since apps are so shit, and that's I'm like, oh,

754
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: there's there's the nugget there that you want to kind

755
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: of pull out what they're doing is there? It sounds

756
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: like maybe they're moving towards something a little less like

757
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: koy and superficial.

758
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, the author of this is mad that people don't

759
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: say dick pics anymore. Like that's what it sounds like.

760
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: It's like they haven't they've lost how to do the

761
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: art of flirting. AKA when I send a picture of

762
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: me touching my balls and I go, do you like?

763
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: And then they don't respawn.

764
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Speaker 2: And then like and then the local police constables knocking

765
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 2: on my door. I don't like any of this, Like yeah,

766
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: it's also just sort of like because I feel like

767
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: in the eighties and nineties, like my brain was absolutely

768
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: poisoned by eighties and nineties media that did not actually

769
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: show how human beings interacted in a romantic capacity like

770
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 2: I was. I was truly like, bro, you will die

771
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: alone if you don't have the smooth pickup line. I

772
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: don't know how to. I remember being obsessed with fucking

773
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: winking yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to learn how to

774
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: wink good. Yeah.

775
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: Was what was your smooth pickup line?

776
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: I didn't have one. I was so fucking I was

777
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: like at Luckily, by the time I got to like

778
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: high school, my whole thing was just being funny and outgoing,

779
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: and I realized that was like that'll that'll bring the

780
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: that'll bring the boys to the yard. As Colice said,

781
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean my sense of humor. But yeah,

782
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: I never I mean, like I would say stuff corny.

783
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: The one thing I did, like in the digital phone

784
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: age is if I saw like somebody I was attracted to,

785
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: like trying to take a photo, I'll be like, oh,

786
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: let me take a picture, let me let me take

787
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: that picture for you, and then I will put it

788
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: on selfie mode and I would take a selfie of me.

789
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I think I would do that.

790
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Speaker 3: I don't know if actually maybe I won't say his name.

791
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 3: But there's like a pretty famous, like celebrity pundit man

792
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: who I went saw at a conference and I was celebrity.

793
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: He's giving you opinions away.

794
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: Then like he's roughly the same age as me, and

795
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: like we probably share friends. He's like in the same

796
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: social circles. But I was like, no, you know, I

797
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: had a couple of drinks, so I wasn't in my

798
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 3: best self. And he gave me his phone to take

799
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Speaker 3: a picture of him and all of his mates, and

800
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: I truly just took so many pictures of myself, and

801
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: then he gave it back to me to do it

802
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: again because he was annoyed, and then I did it again.

803
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, haven't grown out of that.

804
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like at that point, it's not even flirting, it's

805
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 5: just it's just hilarious spite and.

806
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hold it, you guys are nailing it. Keep

807
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: doing that. Keep doing that? Can you keep your legging

808
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: your leg? Keeps giving it back to you? Like, do

809
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: it better? You're like, okay, now I'm just gonna tweet

810
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: some ship. The funny part is like, even though I

811
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: would do ship like that, they would be like oh

812
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: ha haha, Like I had no way to transition from that. Yeah,

813
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, all right, I gotta go, and

814
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, that was so fucking anxiety and do

815
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: so I did step one, but I forgot there's more

816
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: steps after that. I was just like, did that part

817
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: be a little be a little cutesy with him? The

818
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: talking part, because it was it looked like weird. I remember, like,

819
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: you can never be like I like you. They wouldn't

820
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: even fucking murder. Yeah, you know what I mean.

821
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Speaker 4: And I get like, I'm pretty happy that gen Z

822
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: have killed flooding then, because all of this stuff just

823
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: feels like harassment. It just feels like a waste of

824
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: everyone's time. I'm very happy if I get a nice

825
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 4: TM or a heart on something it can help us.

826
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: I like that exactly. I think, like I said, kill

827
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: flirting because I didn't know how to do it and

828
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything for fucking me. But after going

829
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: to therapy, guess what, voicing my needs and being straightforward

830
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: with people actually has done a lot for me. And

831
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: if that's how we communicate, that would actually I think

832
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 2: it's better for us in the long run, rather than

833
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: being so fucking coy it's like exhausting. Yeah, you got

834
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: to learn to flirt with yourself, you know what I mean.

835
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, dude.

836
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Speaker 5: That's the most healthy way of doing it. I didn't

837
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 5: have pickup lines growing up. I think I had a

838
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: long obsession with I have to get a dog because

839
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 5: someone years ago told me that's the best way to

840
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: pick up chicks quote unquote, and then eventually I forgot

841
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: that that's why I wanted a dog, and I just

842
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 5: became dog upsseess and I was like, I can't get

843
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 5: a girlfriend un till I get a dog.

844
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: And then I was like, I just have to get a dog. Yeah,

845
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: now I just love dogs.

846
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 6: Do you have a dog?

847
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: No? Oh man, I already have a wife, but you

848
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: have family. So yeah, in a way, you made good.

849
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: You made good. I made good? Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, amazing.

850
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come right

851
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: back to discuss just the Reform Party in the UK.

852
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: Just are they up to tricks? Are they not? I

853
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's a lot of weird shit and

854
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it with y'all after this,

855
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: and we're back and yes, ed another stock. I felt

856
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: like a few months ago on the show we were

857
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: talking about how the stock price for Tesla, the performance

858
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: has not been great. There was a flood of like,

859
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: well the sales are short, and then like Elon got

860
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: his pay package and then everyone's like, yes, he's back, baby,

861
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: and the last few weeks have seen a huge increase.

862
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: One headline said it like wiped out all losses. They're

863
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Speaker 2: in the green for the first time in twenty twenty four.

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00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: And this is because Elon Musk is a genius. Correct,

865
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: it's because he's Jack Welch too is a great man.

866
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: What he is basically just like the great guy and

867
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: not the guy that at the Alec Baldwin character from

868
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: thirty Rap thirty effectively in heart.

869
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 6: But I was voted most yeah, yeah, But the thing

870
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 6: is like that deliveries are still down. They beat tor

871
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 6: Street estimates, but they were still down four percent four

872
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 6: point eight percent year of year. But the stock is

873
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: like two hundred and fifty bucks now it's a meme stock.

874
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: And I don't fit and I don't I think it's

875
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 6: impressive how bad it is at this point. It's so horrible.

876
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 6: It's like watching a very bad person win again and

877
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 6: again and again.

878
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah and truly. But also.

879
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 6: Even though they voted his stock package through the Delaware courts,

880
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 6: still made it clear that it was not like it's

881
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 6: there's there. Things will change. I just don't know when anymore.

882
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 6: Tester is just so fucking bizarre. I bet Google and

883
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 6: Meta are so jealous of him because it's just disconnected

884
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 6: from one.

885
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 2: I mean speaking of like like you know, promising shit

886
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: and never delivering on it. Like what's going on. There's

887
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: like this, there's a new sort of self driving update

888
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of people are like, yeah, baby, it's

889
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: gonna happen, but this has never fucking happened still, And

890
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: the fleet of robot taxis that you could lease passively

891
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: in your sleep while you make passive income while you're

892
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: catching zas that's nowhere to be found. And I'm just

893
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: always it just blows my mind how I mean, it's

894
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: definitely definitely cult like because they're the detractor aren't really

895
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: the detractors who are vocal kind of get cast aside.

896
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: And there's so many people who are like, it's okay, man,

897
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: that this thing fucking sucks, like the cyber truck fucking sucks. Objectively,

898
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: it fucking sucks like it got I took it to

899
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: a car wash. It fucking it got fucked up. My

900
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: control panel fell off, the fucking side panels fall off,

901
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: the charging issues, I can't get the charger out.

902
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 8: It broke my finger and it accelerates when it wants to.

903
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I drove into a house on accident.

904
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just it's very weird and there is no

905
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 6: stock out that like it. But also it's up today.

906
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 6: I maintain this shit will burn. They are Takey's out

907
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 6: of ideas, and so is Elon Musk. The cyber truck

908
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 6: is ridiculous. It looks like shit, it's small. It's a

909
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 6: terrible truck, terrible car. It's terrible deal.

910
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't even pay off on its promise of

911
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: being a truck. Like, there's so many hilarious things I say.

912
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: I read it where like someone's like, you couldn't even

913
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: put a bicycle flat. Yeah, you couldn't put a bake it.

914
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: You could put a Christmas tree in? What the fuck

915
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: is it?

916
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 6: My favorite one is this guy who was like, yeah,

917
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 6: took my truck to home depot and he got like

918
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 6: four bags of mulch.

919
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that too. Yeah, it's just like like soil.

920
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 6: And someone was starting with I did this in my

921
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: Toyota Corolla.

922
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

923
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 8: As as a guy who likes cars, I can say,

924
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 8: we're very dumb and it is all about like me,

925
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 8: you want to be seen in room room machine, Like

926
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 8: I just want something that looks like a Ferrari or

927
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 8: something that looks like yeah, exactly, so yeah for sure,

928
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 8: but yeah yeah, but I'm just saying, if it's if

929
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 8: you like the aesthetic of that wow factor of the truck,

930
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 8: which you you know, being sure a nine year old,

931
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 8: it's it's that's all.

932
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 6: You need, you know what, Ima Simpson?

933
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 8: Yeah for sure? Yeah right, yeah, if your Homer Simpson,

934
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 8: who thinks whatever hackers from the late nineties thought was

935
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 8: cool is cool.

936
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what like, that's what's wild is there.

937
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: There's just such a pattern of bullshit and yet like

938
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: like to your point at it's like the guy keeps

939
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: fucking with how like that not a single thing he's

940
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: promising is happening, and people are still willing to like

941
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: make all these excuses for why the cyber truck isn't

942
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: actually in an L on four wheels, and they're just like,

943
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: don't worry, man, just what happens. And now there's like

944
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: some new thing about they're not calling it a recall,

945
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: but they're saying they're gonna change their motors and some

946
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: of the early cyber trucks and I'm like just suck

947
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: is this?

948
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 6: It is all spinning plates, And Elon Musk is very

949
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 6: good at that. He genuinely has worked out the limits

950
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 6: to which you can push capitalism and push the markets

951
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 6: and lie to the markets. Right, So he lies to them,

952
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 6: and he lies to them, and he keeps lying and

953
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: they keep eating it up. At some point they're going

954
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 6: to run out of electricity. He was about to say gas, right,

955
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 6: because there aren't any new things with Tesla. Deliveries are

956
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 6: slowing down. Yeah, the actual fundamentals off this stock are

957
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 6: not brilliant. On top of that, Elon Musk may or

958
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 6: may not do a bunch of fucking care to me right. Also,

959
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 6: a lot of his companies are very unprofitable. Tesla's actually profitable.

960
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 6: It's just very weird because this crap works until it doesn't.

961
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 6: He's just very good at keeping it going. It's two

962
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty bucks now, it was like something else,

963
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 6: Like it was like one hundred and et or something like.

964
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago.

965
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: It's just at some point the worm turns.

966
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm just no.

967
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 6: Idea where it's going to fucking happen anymore. I thought

968
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 6: it would be by now it would partly because it'd

969
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 6: be entertaining, but also he's a shit head. Yeah, what

970
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 6: fucking asshole. He's so annoying because all of this money

971
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 6: and he's like, yes, sir, it's very epic and base

972
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 6: to post the fourteen words and oh jesus, yeah fourteen

973
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: So he retweets them. Yeah yeah, and he's like got Twitter,

974
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 6: which is just burning money, just constantly burning money. SpaceX

975
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: is funny though, because people say, oh, yeah, they're profitable

976
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: now they playing fucking accounting games that they're not really Like,

977
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 6: there's a Wall Street Journal piece about this, so Wall

978
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 6: Street Journal piece about and just fucking random woman at

979
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 6: Tesla and SpaceX as well.

980
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: This man's a goblin. It's like everything is so unlikable,

981
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: it's so upsetting. And then I saw did you there

982
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: was this? So they had one of the like head

983
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: lead engineers like a while ago when they were trying

984
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: to create all the hype for the cyber truck. He

985
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: went on like Jay Leno's garage like YouTube channel, and

986
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: there's this clip where he's talking about the side mirrors

987
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: and he's like, we didn't even want side mirrors on

988
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: this thing. I'm just gonna play this because It's like

989
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, wait, hold on, how exactly does

990
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: Tesla do things? And so Jay is like the question

991
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: he's asking this engineer is like, were there anythings that

992
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: like you wanted that just got like completely shot down?

993
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: Like what were some other like bold design choices you made?

994
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: And this is him talking about the side mirrors, the

995
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: side view mirrors.

996
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean we didn't want mirrors, right, and so

997
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 15: in the beginning, we weren't even designing mirrors.

998
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: I like how Jayleno goes, huh and he goes, we

999
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: didn't even want mirrors. He goes, oh, that part is

1000
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: so funny. I'm played again.

1001
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 15: We didn't want mirrors, right, and so in the beginning

1002
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 15: we weren't even designing mirrors. And then just we couldn't

1003
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 15: get the regulations changed camera.

1004
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, did you hear that? So he goes and

1005
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, we couldn't get the regulations changed, so you know,

1006
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: we had to put him in. So I'm like, as

1007
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: half of their the way they ideated is sort of like, well,

1008
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: can we get the laws changed so we can like

1009
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: get this hair brain ship onto the car? Yeah, it's

1010
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: like one break the law? How big? But what if

1011
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: we we just changed it. Yeah, and then that never works.

1012
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 8: Right, and paid enough money to change the legislation, which

1013
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 8: is what they're assuming they're gonna be capable of doing,

1014
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 8: which they probably you know, which the surprising that they

1015
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 8: weren't up to because I was saying, like all car

1016
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 8: designers forever, they wanted to get rid of side mirrors,

1017
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 8: like all aesthetically all car car designers feel that they

1018
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 8: like your ears coming up. Yeah, yeah, so like these

1019
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 8: but but they all know like, oh and also we

1020
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 8: have to have mirrors. But the hubris these dudes is

1021
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 8: the same kind of hubris that is like, oh, we're

1022
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 8: actually not gonna die. We're we decided we're gonna upload

1023
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 8: our consciousness and totally totally defeat mortality. You know what

1024
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 8: I mean. This is the level of like presumptive hubris

1025
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 8: that we're dealing with.

1026
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 6: You know, they just don't. I genuinely think these people

1027
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 6: just take cabs everywhere.

1028
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: That tracks at a certain level of wealth. Yeah, people

1029
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: don't just don't drive.

1030
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 6: It's the theme across everything we're talking about. Summed up.

1031
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 6: A shy of Google doesn't use Google, sutch in, a

1032
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 6: deller of Microsoft, Oh fuck my f I put my

1033
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 6: thumb up and now the zoom now keeping this in, I.

1034
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: Just want rows your fucking video screen. I have a

1035
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: video stream right now.

1036
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 6: This is an important AI related thing that proves my

1037
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 6: larger point. So if you raise your thumb in front

1038
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: of the camera now on Zoom, it does a weird

1039
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 6: pop up bubble of a thumbs up, and then it

1040
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 6: freezes your video through the power of AI. And that's

1041
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 6: exactly the ship that someone would like Eric yuan See

1042
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 6: of Zoom, or any number of people at Microsoft to

1043
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 6: Google who don't use their products to think that sounds great,

1044
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 6: that's awesome. What if on top of showing my thumb,

1045
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 6: thus giving the thumbs up, it also showed another thumb.

1046
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, but this is the problem across all of this.

1047
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 6: Elon Musk doesn't drive anywhere Google Sundit doesn't google anything

1048
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 6: such a Nendella, doesn't use fucking Microsoft word. He probably

1049
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 6: sends outlook like emails. But that's about it, right. None

1050
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 6: of these people interact with the economy with labor. They

1051
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 6: don't do work, they don't do anything so like of course,

1052
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: But yeah, I done if fucking mirrors on a car

1053
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 6: you asked white, right, you know I need to see

1054
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 6: behind you.

1055
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: That's what my drivers for, right exactly. Yeah, this thing

1056
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: can go off road, cut to it cannot really go

1057
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: off road.

1058
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 6: Yeah he said it could double as a boat. And

1059
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 6: like someone's test cyber truck got totled because he drove

1060
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 6: it through a very small puddle of water.

1061
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't even actually reach like the door line.

1062
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: I saw like where they showed where the water reached,

1063
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: Like it didn't even really even get in the car,

1064
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: not even close. And like the insurers like, yeah, dude,

1065
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: we're not fucking we're not touching this thing. Sorry, it's

1066
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: so cool. Yeah, I love all of it. Well, And now,

1067
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: like you see too, a lot of cyber truck owners,

1068
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: there's like a bunch of stuff too where they're like,

1069
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: this is how you remove your side view mirrors from

1070
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: your fucking cyber truck. And I'm like, that's a great idea.

1071
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 2: Your seven thousand pound missile car now has no sure

1072
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: cause it just looks cooler. Man, When I mount my

1073
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: fifty cow machine gun in the back with my big

1074
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: American flag, and you see a lot of people doing

1075
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: this like it, it's just interesting too.

1076
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 9: Like it.

1077
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Speaker 2: It also has an appeal to people who are also

1078
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: not quite living in the same reality as us. Like

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: you see so many people who are like putting like

1080
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: they're wrapping it to look like a World War two

1081
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: fucking fighter plane or someone mounting a machine gun and

1082
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: having like a gigantic American flag because it looks like

1083
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: a meme they saw and they're like, and that's what

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00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: it does. Man, it's a meme. It's a terrible car

1085
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: and I hurt my thumbs trying to load it in

1086
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Speaker 2: some kibble. So thanks you loon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so good, and I love that this guy

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00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 6: is a billionaire. That's good as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 6: there are times you get a little bit black piled

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Speaker 6: when you think about this stuff too much.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean it's I know, it's hard, especially again,

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00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 2: like you said, you're watching someone who's an evil doer

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: just continue to compound financial wins and you're like, I don't,

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00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: But again, that's how the game is set up, so

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Speaker 2: if you know at a certain point you can.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's it's inherently competitive, so those that cheat win.

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Speaker 8: Here's my thing is, I really do feel you guys

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 8: probably won't agree with this, but I feel like being

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00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 8: that rich is a wild burden and terrible for you

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 8: for your spiritual life. That it's like because think about

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00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 8: it this way, like I don't If I have very

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00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 8: little money, what is required to make me happy. All

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00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 8: it takes is a shower orange.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 8: I just need one peach to take into the shower

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 8: with me. But if I'm wildly rich and I'm used

1107
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 8: to spending millions of dollars, the amount of money I

1108
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 8: have to spend to get more new exciting sensory information

1109
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 8: is cocaine, ketamine and a couple of sex workers who

1110
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 8: have to do stuff that is not even sex anymore.

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00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 8: You know, likes right, you know so, and then you

1112
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 8: watch what happens with these You watch what happens with

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Speaker 8: these people too, which is the profound lack of maturity,

1114
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Speaker 8: the internet behavior of a thirteen year old who's like, yeah,

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00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 8: what if I tweeted the word kweef?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine? You know, twenty? Yeah, you're pretty funny.

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Speaker 8: It's absurd, you know. So, I'm so grateful that I

1118
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 8: don't have that amount of money.

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Speaker 2: We're real, we're real.

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Speaker 6: Hand it over to me and I'll tell you how

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00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 6: it goes. But also I agree, I actually think when

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00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 6: you because the thing about someone like Elon mosk Mark

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00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 6: about got paid two hundred and twenty million dollars to

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00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 6: fuck up Google in two thousand and sorry, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 16: These guys they don't have bills, right, they don't have that.

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 16: They don't wake up in the morning worrying about anything. Yeah,

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 16: but they could get fired that day, get nothing in return,

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Speaker 16: and have probably fifty to one hundred million dollars of

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00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 16: liquid capital and a bunch of assets, and probably walk

1130
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Speaker 16: into another job the same day. They don't have trouble

1131
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 16: getting introduced to people. They don't need to worry about

1132
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 16: career progression. They don't need to worry about anything.

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 6: All of the things that they person worries about pretty

1134
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 6: much any income level, are just concepts to them, and

1135
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 6: problems that you have are things that they can mitigate.

1136
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 6: In pretty much every way. On Us could probably look

1137
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 6: better than he does. He just chooses not to, which

1138
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 6: is very funny. But it's I think when you think

1139
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 6: of it like that, like it does sound like hell,

1140
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 6: But at the same time, give me the money, give.

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Speaker 2: It to me. I will be smart. I'm smart enough

1142
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: to know what I don't.

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 8: Yeah for that, Ed I'll support you get a couple bill.

1144
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 6: But also on top of that, only CEOs and this

1145
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: is such a cheesy thing to say for smit to therapy.

1146
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 6: You can't be the CEO of one of these companies

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 6: without like three hours of therapy a week and beginning

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Speaker 6: or week.

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00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: Or you know, just cap the fucking the wages that

1150
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: you can get as CEO and then you know, leave

1151
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: it there. But Ed, I gotta thank you for stopping

1152
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: by and uh, you know, just making me feel even

1153
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: better about my uh heritage series or foundation series cyber

1154
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: truck that's going to be delivered later today.

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Speaker 8: I've seen that this beauty, all those eagles on the

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00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 8: Really it's a beaute, dude, gotta say it's a beaute.

1157
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: Got Conan right there.

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00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 6: He's a woman for the rest of us man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, dude, I will. I will thank you

1160
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Speaker 2: so much for joining us on the daily side. Gust Ed,

1161
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: where do people find you? Follow you, hear you, read

1162
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: you all of that good stuff.

1163
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 6: Where's your edge dot at better offline dot com you

1164
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 6: can find me where you red head at which my

1165
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 6: newsletter and my podcast Better Offline. Please go to that

1166
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 6: link download every episode listen to every episode. Force the

1167
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 6: people you know with a knife to.

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Speaker 2: Listen to it every episode, like a common Gallagher. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

1169
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: forced them at knife point. Is there a work of

1170
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 2: social media or otherwise that you have been enjoying enjoying?

1171
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 6: So there is a tweet which I will get you

1172
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Speaker 6: the link of after the thing where someone tweeted and

1173
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 6: I'm paraphrasing here, but it was like I saw your

1174
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 6: man crashing his flying machine in the town square. Your

1175
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 6: man was saying confound it and dratt or something like that.

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: It's just it's a wonderful tweet. Yeah, I saw that

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00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: one too. Who was it?

1178
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Speaker 6: Also one another thing I've been laughing at, which is

1179
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Speaker 6: underscore Latino. So Senkygira, who has had a very strange turn,

1180
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 6: posted going to debate the omniliberal and wolf shbreed and

1181
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 6: on Biden staying and or dropping out. Brianna Woo is

1182
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 6: on my side for dropping out. I have never heard

1183
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 6: a conversation I wanted to hear less. Yeah, Jesus, like,

1184
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 6: it's between that and ten minutes of people punching dogs and.

1185
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah it's tough. Yeah. The only destiny I'm interested in

1186
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: was a Microsoft product destiny I care about was destiny too,

1187
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: but I guess that was Bungee technically right.

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00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 6: I'm by Sony PlayStation now.

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Speaker 2: Ah see How the Mighty Fall, How the Mighty Fall?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show if you like, The

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Speaker 1: show means the world the miles he he needs your.

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Speaker 8: Validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 5: Stating nothing