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Speaker 1: Hey, Club Shade listeners, We'll be back soon with weekly

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Speaker 1: episodes featuring brand new interviews with exciting roster guests. Until then,

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this special rewind episode with one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: moments from Club Sha Shade so far. All my Life Running,

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Speaker 1: All my Life, sa Fice, Hustle back Price one Slice,

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Speaker 1: Got the Brons swap. Give me your top five hood

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Speaker 1: classics of all kind a New Jack City, New Jack City.

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Speaker 1: I like New Jack City, boys in the hood, boys

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Speaker 1: in the hood, the Mac Mac And I'm gonna, well,

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Speaker 1: you talk about hood hood classics, uh, because I always

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Speaker 1: say scar faces hood classes of debate because I love Scoff.

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Speaker 1: We grew up. We accidentally saw that in Mad Need.

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Speaker 1: We were kids. My mom and daddy even know what

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Speaker 1: we were watching. We was gone. They sent us to

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Speaker 1: the movie and I said, whoa, this is acting. I

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Speaker 1: thought I was in, you know, the whole big old

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Speaker 1: drug world with that. But the other would could be

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Speaker 1: off hand. Maybe minutes to decide uptown Saturday night. Uptown

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, let's do it again. Those are in there

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Speaker 1: you ain't gonna put I'm not gonna put Friday in

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Speaker 1: their house. Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I gotta

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Speaker 1: put my movie in there. Yeah. There. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: have a Hood classic any of them, rushmore, any of'em

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Speaker 1: without Friday being in it. Thank you good looking at

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Speaker 1: our big bro. That's right, that's right. You grew up

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Speaker 1: you were growing up? You know, I was blessing. I

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Speaker 1: found out early, you know, uh that I like entertainment,

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Speaker 1: you know, going to the movie seeing uh stir crazy

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Speaker 1: with Richard Pryor in and Jane Jane Jean Wilder trying

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Speaker 1: I was just fascinated when when when Richard Pryor came

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Speaker 1: you know, and I was like that on Eddie, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I and then I when I go when I

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Speaker 1: two sisters. They say shut up or it's what you know.

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Speaker 1: So I just watched them, I you know it was,

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Speaker 1: You know, it was just comedy all around us, because

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Speaker 1: And I was funny, I guess too, And went to

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Speaker 1: So he had all that stuff. He brought the lyrics

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Speaker 1: But Michael I would go, Chris, what are you? What

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Speaker 1: it's still, man, there's so many funny young brothers out there. Man,

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