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Speaker 2: Good morning, Sweeper, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, February second, and you already

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Speaker 2: know the groundhog saw its shadow today, which means it's

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Speaker 4: Glad to finally come through with a pretty bad shirt.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, we'll talk about the rising Stars pool

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Speaker 2: Anything to add to Raps heat from last night.

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Speaker 4: Sixty points in the second half against the Heat is

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Speaker 4: I saw a lot of Raptors fans on Twitter last

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Speaker 4: night calling the starting lineup the big five. That's hilarious

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Speaker 4: to me, right, Yeah, pretty much pretty much the only five.

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Speaker 4: when will that stop?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: At least they'll get a little bit of a rest

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Speaker 4: But it feels like they're gonna ride these five as

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Speaker 4: that first half, exactly right. It ended up with four

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say, Yeah, it's hard to believe when

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Speaker 3: Yes, that as a franchise record through fifty games. If

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Speaker 3: in the in the in the last to win a game. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're talking the last shot, we're talking fourth quarter. Chris

431
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Speaker 3: Paul is doing it now in the very late part

432
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Speaker 3: of his career. But anyways, the point is, yes, they

433
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Speaker 3: don't have a top ten player. I mean, yeah, Chris

434
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Speaker 3: Paul's in the conversation, but close.

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Speaker 2: The idea is like, if you look back at the

436
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Speaker 2: last champions it's obviously there's Giannis, there's Lebron, there's Koree.

437
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to connect them all, and yeah, Chris Paul is

438
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Speaker 3: never has never been a guy put him on, put

439
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Speaker 3: the team on his back and win a championship. And yeah,

440
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: so yeah, Durant obviously is the number one guy. But

441
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: we're here and they're going to go into the playoffs,

442
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Speaker 3: and if they play other healthy teams, the other healthy

443
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Speaker 3: teams will likely have a number one guy that's you know,

444
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Speaker 3: one championships depending on who they play. But yeah, people

445
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Speaker 3: will say, of course they ran into some teams that

446
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Speaker 3: were injured last year without their top guys. So anyways,

447
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Speaker 3: the Suns, can they do it as a collective unit.

448
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: Obviously it's possible, and they are obviously rolling. They have

449
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Speaker 3: managed to get through this health and safety protocol run

450
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Speaker 3: here pretty well except for DeAndre Ayton, and he's out,

451
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Speaker 3: and they've managed with those two backcourt players on the

452
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Speaker 3: other side. Quickly the nets. You know, we just mentioned

453
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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's name. They only played together eight times last

454
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Speaker 3: year and then they went into the playoffs and they

455
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Speaker 3: could have easily knocked off the Bucks if it wasn't

456
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Speaker 3: for a long Kevin Durant tow or if they're playing

457
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Speaker 3: with their starts. Kyrie Irving was out there playing with

458
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Speaker 3: half a James Harden who was playing on one leg.

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Speaker 3: But they have questions this year that they didn't have

460
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Speaker 3: last year. First, Kevin Durant' not healthy. Second, James harden

461
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: still has that hamstring injury. Didn't know about that until

462
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Speaker 3: the playoffs last year. I mean, he's laboring right now.

463
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Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving can only play road games currently. And I

464
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Speaker 3: think the other big question is the supporting cast isn't

465
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Speaker 3: the same as it was last year. You know, you

466
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Speaker 3: had Joe Harris shooting balls last year. He's not playing

467
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Speaker 3: right now. You had Bruce Brown as you knew he

468
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Speaker 3: was going to come in and be that motor. And

469
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Speaker 3: you know I mentioned LaMarcus Aldridge couple weeks ago, because

470
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Speaker 3: I thought he could be their big guy at least

471
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Speaker 3: to support like Blake Griffin was last year. Now he's

472
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Speaker 3: hobbled and he's having a career year, but now he's

473
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Speaker 3: on crutches. So this team again, they could have ran

474
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Speaker 3: to the title last year after playing eight games together,

475
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Speaker 3: only their big three players had only played eight games together.

476
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Speaker 3: But this year there's there's I think there are more

477
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Speaker 3: additional questions and if they do get healthy again, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: they could just slam those questions, you know, to the

479
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Speaker 3: ground pretty easily because they have some crazy top end talent.

480
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Speaker 3: But at three games out of first they'll tell you

481
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Speaker 3: we can get it together. But they aren't together the

482
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Speaker 3: way they were last year, Like their supporting cast isn't

483
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Speaker 3: the same. So it's it's a strong It's been a

484
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Speaker 3: big slog of a season for the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Sons with that Hollander article about the

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Speaker 2: ensemble there he in it is wondering, like do they

487
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Speaker 2: make a move here and really really like try and

488
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Speaker 2: get one more piece possibly to like make another run

489
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Speaker 2: to the finals and try and win the whole thing.

490
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Speaker 2: He throwed a couple ideas. I want to chuck him

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Speaker 2: at you and everybody here in the stream, team, he said,

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Speaker 2: And he compared it in talking about like an ensemble

493
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Speaker 2: team he called like one of the Bad Boys teams,

494
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Speaker 2: like sort of an ensemble team. And he said, adding

495
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Speaker 2: a Vinnie Johnson like player to Chris Paul and Devin

496
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Speaker 2: Booker's Isaiah and Dumars, making that comparison. For instance, John

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Speaker 2: Hollander writes Dario Saracho for the season and on the

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Speaker 2: books for about nine million next year? Could they trade

499
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Speaker 2: him Jalen Smith, Frank Kaminski and a first in twenty

500
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Speaker 2: twenty four to Portland four? And I might as well

501
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Speaker 2: just point at Tassi's chess for Norm JD. Yeah, for

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Speaker 2: Norm Norman Powell. There it is Norm And then so

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Speaker 2: there's that. And what about a similar package to Houston

504
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Speaker 2: for Eric Gordon And let's say Jayshawn jun heat. Do

505
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Speaker 2: you think the Suns should be active and really like,

506
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Speaker 2: looking at this rate, hey, one more piece? Or are

507
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Speaker 2: they fighting?

508
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Speaker 5: Well? I think if you if you're offering up those

509
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Speaker 5: players who are basically not playing and get normpowered? Yes?

510
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Speaker 5: Why not? Why not get normpowered?

511
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Speaker 2: He's a future?

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Speaker 3: Ye?

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Speaker 5: Because you're not getting anything out of those guys him

514
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Speaker 5: or Eric Gordon both. I think Eric Gooden's probably a

515
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Speaker 5: little bit more reliable from three. I'm not really sure.

516
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Speaker 5: I'd have to look into it a little bit more,

517
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Speaker 5: but he's done that a little bit. Norm as you

518
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Speaker 5: know from the Toronto Days, Hot Norm Old Norm. He

519
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Speaker 5: goes a little bit like that. But I really think

520
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Speaker 5: a lot of it comes down to what offensively to

521
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Speaker 5: get out of Bridges as well. Bridges last night, he

522
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Speaker 5: last two games, he's had over fifty points. He's a

523
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Speaker 5: bit of a feast or famine guy. Sometimes he gets

524
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Speaker 5: four shots. Sometimes last night he had fourteen. I think

525
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Speaker 5: he had sixteen in the last game against the Spurs.

526
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Speaker 5: And when he's on and when he just cuts inside

527
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Speaker 5: and they find him, he's got those gigantically long arms.

528
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Speaker 5: He can finish around the rim. Remember the first two

529
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Speaker 5: games of the finals last season against the Bucks, he

530
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Speaker 5: was really good and then he dropped off a combination

531
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Speaker 5: of factors there. But if they can get more off offensive,

532
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Speaker 5: consistent offensive production at him, they don't necessarily need that

533
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Speaker 5: other guy to come out and shoot it. But and obvious,

534
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Speaker 5: Luke Bridges is brilliant defense. Yeah, he's he's a fourth player,

535
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Speaker 5: but he again, he can have games like he did

536
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Speaker 5: last nighter. He has twenty seven points on a big

537
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Speaker 5: nod against the good opponent, and he is an incredible player.

538
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Speaker 5: So but yeah, if you can sort of package that

539
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Speaker 5: ensemble sa Rich, Smith.

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Speaker 4: And Kaminski on a huge pick, you're doing ensemble within

541
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Speaker 4: an ensemble. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, if you can

542
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Speaker 4: get a couple of players who would play for you

543
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Speaker 4: in the postseason, I would personally prefer Gordon and Tate

544
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Speaker 4: over Norm Powell by a long shot. But yeah, I

545
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Speaker 4: mean Sorrich is out for the season, You've got DeAndre

546
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Speaker 4: Ayton back playing in the lineup. Bismack Biambo has been

547
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Speaker 4: fun to watch. He can at least be your backup center.

548
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Speaker 4: He probably won't play a ton in the playoffs. So yeah,

549
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna ship out some non rotation

550
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Speaker 4: pieces for some playoff performers, good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ship out that quartet from your orchestra, because that quartet,

552
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Speaker 3: that ensemble isn't really contributing. What instruments would that tepee

553
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Speaker 3: that aren't contributing that the least impactful of the orchard.

554
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Speaker 4: The obo I don't know that important.

555
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Speaker 3: I mean, I want, I want to. I want to,

556
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Speaker 3: I want to.

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Speaker 6: THEO is incredibly important.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, I want. I want a type

559
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Speaker 3: of instrument like I want to try.

560
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Speaker 6: It's very impactful though, A triangle when it comes in,

561
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Speaker 6: that ding over everything, just one can make an entire symphony, don't.

562
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Speaker 4: What's your answer to that?

563
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Speaker 6: I will give us at least one instrument to get

564
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Speaker 6: the hell out of the third trombone get out of trump. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 6: you know, like there's the lead and then there's the

566
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Speaker 6: you know, the the third person down the road, they're

567
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Speaker 6: the third best.

568
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was looking No one's gonna notice.

570
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Speaker 3: I was looking for a group. I was looking for

571
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Speaker 3: a group of instruments within the chest ensemble, within the ensemble. Yeah,

572
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Speaker 3: the woodwinds are that's an interesting one. The woodwinds, the brass.

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Speaker 6: Viola's maybe yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. Viola is the islands, goodbye,

575
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Speaker 3: see you later, violin stand Okay, Sorry I didn't know

576
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Speaker 3: that they were separated. Yes, yes, Tess, I mean I

577
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Speaker 3: think you could get rid of the symbols and the

578
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Speaker 3: triangle you're.

579
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Speaker 4: And auxiliary percussion. We might have a new squad to

580
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Speaker 4: the opposite of drafting it. We like we take the symphony,

581
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Speaker 4: we start eliminating.

582
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Speaker 5: But you just got to wonder about the triangle guy,

583
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: like you know, like are you just an awesome trianglear

584
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Speaker 5: in high school? Like, man, we've got to get that

585
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 5: guy a great timing, Yeah, I guess so.

586
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Speaker 6: And attention to detail, like you can fade away there

587
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 6: just standing there, you.

588
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Speaker 5: Would be, you'd be checking your because talking about I've

589
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Speaker 5: seen it at Elton John Constant, I'm like, I see

590
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Speaker 5: the guy just got bing like that, and I'm.

591
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Speaker 6: Like, well, that's not usually all they're doing, not actually

592
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Speaker 6: other percussion.

593
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Speaker 5: He's up there, but I'm like, I don't notice that

594
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Speaker 5: impact from that, just that one dingle and then he

595
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Speaker 5: gets back to his other business.

596
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Speaker 2: But I guess, el what what instrument do you see

597
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: yourself playing in an orchestra?

598
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Speaker 5: In an orchestra, Yeah, give me some sort of big clarinet. Absolutely,

599
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: give me the clarinet. That's a pretty sexy instrument. What

600
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Speaker 5: I think So.

601
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Speaker 4: No, clarinet is like a not sexy saxophone.

602
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: No, I think I think it is. I you know

603
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 5: why I said that, Really, I was in I was

604
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Speaker 5: in Central Park one day in summer.

605
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Speaker 2: That's one specific story where you saw a really cool

606
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Speaker 2: looking guy.

607
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Speaker 5: Was sort of busking, not really busking, he was just

608
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Speaker 5: playing the clarinet. It was a beautiful September, gorgeous day.

609
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 4: Gorgeous it was.

610
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 5: It was September in New York. It's beautiful. I was

611
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: there for the tennis and I thought, Wow, that guy's

612
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 5: just really bring the ambiance to Central Park. You know,

613
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: like it's a nice background.

614
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't stand out in an orchestra, but

615
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: I can see it, so, you know.

616
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: But is it sexy? Clarinet is not sexy?

617
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Curves straight up, straight.

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Speaker 5: Wood.

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Speaker 4: We got good to these other games here, Lee.

620
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Speaker 2: The shortanded Warriors stunned the Spurs one twenty four one

621
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Speaker 2: twenty extended their wedding streak. And look, we keep talking

622
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: about the Suns racking up these wins. The Dubs are

623
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: still there and they got this victory last night without

624
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: really any of their games.

625
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: That's right, And they were down fifteen going into that

626
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: third quarter there. Jonathan Kuminga was brilliant in that fourth quarter,

627
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: had some really nice play. He's got some out hit

628
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: a three, got some outlet fast breaks, but just really

629
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: shows his athleticism and his size inside, he's going to

630
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: be a handful. I think in this league if he's

631
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: he was a high draft pick, they believe in him.

632
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: On a team like this, he's not going to get

633
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: a ton of opportunities. But last night, because there was

634
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: no step no Draymond, no Clay, no Andrew Wiggins, someone

635
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: had to step up and had got into that fourth

636
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: quarter when it was finally him and then Jordan Paul

637
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: hit a huge three. Might have gotten away with the

638
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: travel just before that. I'm not sure. It depends on

639
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: which broadcast you listen to. Really, the Warriors there, Bob

640
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: Fitzgerald and Zabookie were like sort of laughing, just going like, nah,

641
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: it wasn't really a travel, but.

642
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: That means it was.

643
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: I listened to the Spurs as well, and Bill Land

644
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Speaker 5: was kind of like the fans thought it was a travel.

645
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: He didn't actually say if it was a travel, And anyway,

646
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter. This was a really good comeback win.

647
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: Steph Curry was going crazy on the sidelines here, and

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 5: I think for Steve Kerr, you know, I talked a

649
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 5: little bit about this yesterday with the Philadelphia seventy sixers

650
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: without embat They had their other stars, but no embead.

651
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: Can this team still win and compete against a team

652
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: like the San Antonio Spurs aren't having a great season,

653
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: but they're always a kind of tough team, and they

654
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: did so. I think Bob Fitzgerald also called this the

655
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 5: most impressive victory of the season last night. All factors

656
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: considered no stars coming down for fifteen and had to

657
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: close it out, So it was a It was a

658
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: pretty good end here to the game. So good stuff

659
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: from the Warriors.

660
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: The other games last night, Trey, I'm chucking them all

661
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: at you. I got to take for every single okay, perfect,

662
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: it was just bodes. Okay, Bulls hold off the Magic's

663
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: fourth quarter rally for the one twenty six, one to

664
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Speaker 2: fifteen win. I know you got to teake on this. Yeah.

665
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: Take is that the Bulls have decided to not play defense,

666
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 4: not even try until Lonzo and Caruso are back. I

667
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: love it, but I kind of hate it because I've

668
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: seen what they look like when they actually do played defense.

669
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: That being said, they did play five minutes of defense

670
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: last night, finished the game on an eleven zero run

671
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: after the Magic tied it late in the fourth quarter.

672
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: A couple of big shots by Io Desummu last night,

673
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: Io Silver as Stacy King was saying, that's the thirty

674
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: second win for your Chicago Bulls, more than they had

675
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Speaker 4: all of last season. Up next, John Hollinger's prediction of

676
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: thirty six wins. Can they get there before the All

677
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: Star break? It'll be tough. Four games and five nights.

678
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: For the blest the Raptors. One of those Thursday, I

679
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: think exciting. Yeah, okay, what about this one? Giannis gets

680
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: the triple double helps the Bucks top the Wizards won

681
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: twelve ninety eight. First game on tant last night.

682
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: That's right, And you know, I like to say that

683
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: first half leads aren't real, and this is a good,

684
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: weird first half leads aren't real kind of game. The

685
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: Bucks got up by seventeen in the first half, Wizards

686
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: beat back, took the lead with eight minutes left, but

687
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: there was a seventeen to four run for Milwaukee the

688
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: last four and a half minutes of this game, and

689
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: the Bucks won by fourteen. So they blew a seventeen

690
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: point lead and still won by fourteen because they were

691
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: playing against the Wizards and they had Janis on to Tokoompa,

692
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: the guy just decide it over, Okay, I'll just don't

693
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: get every single time. I'll be in the lane so

694
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: many times. The only other real takeaway I have from

695
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: this there's a flagrant on Yanisanta Takompo that was called

696
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: a common file. First they went back and reviewed it. It

697
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: was Montress Harold grabbed him on the arms. Getting a

698
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: little shacky with the way people are defending h Yannis

699
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: these days, it's kind of like, just try and take

700
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: him down at least once a game.

701
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: So I like Bobby portis stepping up there.

702
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: Though.

703
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Lobi's got his back, no doubt, no doubt about that.

704
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: But uh, they're gonna have to protect Yiannis. I think

705
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: a little bit out here because people are just gonna

706
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: keep taking shots at him.

707
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 5: You can see why though, because head do you actually

708
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 5: still you know, he's got that gigantic step, he's so long,

709
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 5: you know, he's so strong now, so you're really noticing

710
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: that physical bulk that he's got. Way he's bouncing guys off,

711
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 5: you know, so they like, we can't really do anything else.

712
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 5: It does remind me a bit like of the Antonio

713
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: Davis and Dale Davis where they're just like, just jump

714
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 5: on Shack. You've got six fails. Use him. But obviously

715
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: we don't want he'm getting injured or heard or anything

716
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: like that. But it's a it's a tough, tough matchup

717
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 5: right now against Giannis. I mean it has been the

718
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: last couple of years. But yeah, really like he's he's

719
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: so much more confident in himself.

720
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: I think inside and final one, brandon Ingram twenty six points.

721
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: He's back in the lineup. Pelicans rally for the one

722
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: eleven one on one win over the Pistons.

723
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, brandon Ingram is the story. Missed five games, came

724
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: back and the Pelicans won right away. Twenty six points,

725
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: three rebounds, four assists. This doesn't sound impressive. The Pelicans

726
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: are seventeen and twenty when he plays, but they're two

727
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: and twelve when he doesn't. He wasn't one of my

728
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: All Stars, but I considered making the case, and I

729
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: would hear from people on the internet if they wanted

730
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: to say brandon Ingram is an all Star, Like when

731
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: they come out with snubs, surely he will be one

732
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: of the guys managed as a snub because he's been

733
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: playing pretty well and when he plays. The Pelicans are

734
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: actually a competitive team. I'm still thinking they could possibly

735
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: make a run at the play in tournament. Who knows.

736
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: They just had that terrible, terrible start. Now they're balling

737
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: and then they seem to have figured some things out.

738
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Speaker 4: So good stuff from brandon Ingram. Welcome back, buddy.

739
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: Come Friday show Tests when we're here in the Classic

740
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: Factory for the drop and we're talking about the reserves

741
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: name the night before, will brandon Ingram's name come up

742
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: on your list of snubs?

743
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: Well, had an accomplishment to come up on a list

744
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: of snubs. Yeah. Yeah. He has been really good when

745
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: they play, and he's battled through it's been a rough season.

746
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Think about it for the New Orleans Pelicans. If the

747
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: whole Zion thing plays out differently in Zion's on the

748
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: floor for half the games, then they're a play in

749
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: tournament team. Absolutely So yeah, then they have brandon Ingram

750
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: in the conversation as it all start, and Zion's not done.

751
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's done this season. I think they'll

752
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 3: be There'll be a Zion appearance at some point.

753
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: Test says, Zion's not done, and we're not either. We're

754
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna take our first break. When we come back, we're

755
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: gonna get to the Rising Stars rosters. We'll talk snubs,

756
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: comes to the Rooks and sauce, and we'll do a

757
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: deep dive on the latest intel into the Simmons versus Sevties. Actually, oh,

758
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: you don't want to talk about that, all right, We'll

759
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: be right back back in the Classic Factory. Last night,

760
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: the NBA unveiled the rosters for this month's Rising Stars Challenge,

761
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: which featured the presence of g leaguing Nite players for

762
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: the first time. But let's get to the rookies first.

763
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: Them selected were Scottie Barnes, Kate Cunningham, Io Christwarte, Giddy Green,

764
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Herb Jones, Daveion, Mitchell Mobley, Shine Gun, Suggs, and Wagner. So,

765
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: before we get to the sophomores, was there a snub

766
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: or did they do a pretty good job here? Tass Like,

767
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: is there a name that you're like, what, where's that rookie?

768
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: Pretty good twelve?

769
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to get snobby about the snubs. I

770
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: think they did a good job. Yeah, I think they

771
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: did a good job. You can bring up a name, sure,

772
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: I think they did.

773
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: Me to bring up a name.

774
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course we got to right.

775
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: There was one name that I was just surprised. I

776
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: think just because of like the players we've seen from them.

777
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: He had a good game last night, he said, sort

778
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: of turning the game around for the Warriors, Kaminga. I

779
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: thought Kaminga would just be selected, and people will say, well,

780
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: if you bring up a snub and you bring up

781
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: a name, you gotta take somebody up.

782
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 4: I didn't think Dvion Mitchell would be on the.

783
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: On the team, but he's there. Kings have had a

784
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: ship poor season and.

785
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: So that's it. That's all.

786
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: That's my only qualm, if you want to even call

787
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: it that.

788
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and like I said, for Cominga, he's had some

789
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 5: good moments, but it's just hard to break into a team.

790
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: So like that's the thing. Vivia Mitchell actually is better stats.

791
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's incredible to watch defensively. But yeah, you can't

792
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: sort of get too upset with who they pick because

793
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: it would be tough. There's a lot of guys who

794
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: play a handful of minutes and then they're off and

795
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 5: then they've had some bigger impact, like ever Mobiley, of

796
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: course he's gonna make it, but he's missed time as well.

797
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 5: With injuries out there, most of the guys have, so

798
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: I don't really I'm not sort of getting upset throwing,

799
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 5: you know, punches at anyone over who's not in the

800
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 5: Sophomore Rising Stars Challenge.

801
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: I was surprised to see Kuminga has played forty games

802
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: this season.

803
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: He gets in there. Yeah, higher than you thought.

804
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

805
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: You must have been very excited that Io got some

806
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: you know, not consideration, got selected this team. Not really

807
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: a surprise like that. I like that herban Io like

808
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: second rounders, like.

809
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.

810
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

811
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: I wonder how high Io would go in a redraft

812
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 4: top ten, I think for sure, maybe top five, depending

813
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: on how crazy you are. I'm taking Io over Giddy,

814
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: I said it, whoa, let's go to this.

815
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Disagree you know, just you do you disagree with.

816
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: You would take Gid? Of course I would. He's been great. Yeah,

817
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: Io has been incredible.

818
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: To the steel of the draft. People are saying.

819
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: Io, yeah, yeah, Well Giddy could argue that as well.

820
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: At number six, no one had him up there, No

821
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 5: one had him. I didn't see him on any board

822
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 5: higher than about twelve, maybe ten.

823
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you called it well, I got some good information.

824
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're taking you take Iover, Giddy, Franz and

825
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: a couple Jalen's I don't know about.

826
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: Fronz is pretty solid man, but I would have to

827
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 4: I would map it out someday. But I feel like

828
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: coming I'm with you. He's probably the biggest snub. He

829
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: was the highest draft pick that didn't make it. He's

830
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: got the G League pedigree, which I would wonder if

831
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: that kind of factored in. Obviously it didn't, but I

832
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 4: also feel like he kind of got screwed by Wiggins

833
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 4: making it as a starter. They're like, we can't in

834
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: all of the Warriors here. We can't have every single

835
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 4: Warrior throw some sauce out there for the Pacers and Kings.

836
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: They need a representative at All Star Weekend.

837
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: That does happen with these for sure. All right, let's

838
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: get to the sophomores here, JD. We got precious Achua

839
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: from the Raptors, Cole, Anthony LaMelo, Ball, Desmond Bin Citi Bay,

840
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Haliburton, Tyrese Maxi Two, Tyresees, uh Jaden McDaniels,

841
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Isaac Occorrol Beef stew there with the Pistons, So that

842
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: that brings us up to three Pistons players if you

843
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: keep the track, and then Jayshaun Tate from the Rockets

844
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: Leo start with you this one. I think there are

845
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: maybe more names that people are like, well, where's this

846
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: guy who's at the top of your list.

847
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 5: Well, another guy who's been really good defensively is Congo

848
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 5: there Atlanta Hawks. I think he's got a pretty strong case,

849
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 5: but again he just hasn't maybe had enough one game

850
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: yeah yeah, so, but when he has played, he's really

851
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: stood out. He's had some incredible plays and moments. But again,

852
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: you can't get sort of too upset about these things

853
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: because for most of these guys, you know, they're just

854
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: trying to make it on a team, and so this

855
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 5: is like gravy on top of their dinner, steak dinner

856
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: on top.

857
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: Of their beef stew. But I think a Congo, we

858
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: should make it over beef stew. I understand that, you know,

859
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: the league is saying of the Pistons. Here you go,

860
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: you know, the Hawks have Tree Young in the All

861
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: Star Game, but what are the Pistons got, Well, they

862
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: got guys in the in the Rising Stars challenge, but

863
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: I think a Congo. Even though Isaiah Stewart has had

864
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 3: the opportunity to play a lot more, Congo's played better.

865
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: He's played very solid and he could be a starter,

866
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: while Stewart is played in that starter role and hasn't

867
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 3: really done the same thing. But uh, either way, Yeah,

868
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm not getting upset, but I'm upset. I want I

869
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: want a kong Wu in this game. And uh, it's

870
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: hard to take anybody off, but I would take I

871
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: would trade him for the beef.

872
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: I was a little shocked that neither of the two

873
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Knicks players made it in Obi Toppin or Emmanuel Quickly,

874
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: I will say I thought at least one of them

875
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: would be in there. And again it gets a little dip, like, Okay,

876
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: who you taken off? Because there's some awesome, awesome names there,

877
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: But were you similarly surprised a little bit Trey of that.

878
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually really like these rosters because I feel

879
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 4: like there are some snubs out there, But in general,

880
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: these are the most exciting players from these two drafts

881
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: except for one of the Knicks guys. I guess Obi

882
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: Toppin is likely a dunk contest competitor, so fair keep

883
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: him out, which means that Emmanuel quickly would nabe slide

884
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: in there. But he's had a little bit of an

885
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: underwhelming season. That being said, those are the two big

886
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: ones to me. I also saw Denny Abdilla and Devin

887
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: Vassel were the other names being bandied about, but not

888
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: much buzz for either of those guys this year.

889
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you watch, one of them will be an injury replacement. Unfortunately,

890
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: someone will tweak an ankle here in the next couple

891
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: of weeks and they'll have to name some guys. And

892
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: just to remind everyone, this is not Rooks versus sophomores

893
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: this year, they're doing something different. We're gonna jumble up

894
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: these teams, including four G League I Nite players uh

895
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: named to the roster pool Marjon Beauchamp. If I'm saying

896
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: that correctly, excuse me. That's a beautiful name though. Dyce

897
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: and Daniels, Yeah, the vacuum cleaner. They definitely don't call him,

898
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: Lee Jade and Hardy and then maybe the best name

899
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: of the bunch, Scoot Scoot Henderson. One of these guys

900
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: you love league because they're Australia.

901
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: Well, Dyson Daniels, Yeah, he's he's just trying to.

902
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: I honestly the Aussie vacuum they call, I honestly.

903
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: Don't know backwards about him, but he has been he

904
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: has been floated around some mock draft boats.

905
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: So I believe a lot of these guys, the g

906
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Leading Nite guys are like I think they're all four

907
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: of them are ranked in like the top twenty one.

908
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, if we can get another Australian drafted, that

909
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: would be fantastic. So I think him and Josh Giddy

910
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: have played together in the past, So excited to see

911
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: how he goes on the big stage.

912
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna throw this at you guys. It's true,

913
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: true sick O ship. But should we do a podcast?

914
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: Because they're going to have four teams here, should we

915
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: play the roles of the four coaches? Let's say you're

916
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Rick Berry, Okay, great, I've worked with. Is Tray more

917
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: of an Isaiah Thomas or James Worthy?

918
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: Well, on one hand, Isaiah Thomas is from Chicago. On

919
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: the other hand, yeah, James Worthy accessorises I think I

920
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: like the Chicago Let's take it.

921
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, take it?

922
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: And then okay, that leaves me as James Worthy. What

923
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: I was going to say is should we do a

924
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: podcast where we draft our teams?

925
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: You don't, and that's fair, Let's make them.

926
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're definitely, Yeah, we'll do it.

927
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: Why not because we can draft them and then and

928
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: then the you know, the viewers, the listeners could tell

929
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: us the best team.

930
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be fun because they're stocked with good players.

931
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: As he brought up, it's easy to get excited about

932
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 3: these three teams or these three lists of players here, because, yeah,

933
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: the last two drafts have been stalked full of talent,

934
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: and no one has really disappointed. Of course, you know,

935
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: some guys rise to the crap, right to the cream

936
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: of the crop a little bit more. But yeah, looking

937
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: through both rosters, ye's disappointing. James Wiseman is in there

938
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: because he's been injured as a number two pick. But Patrick,

939
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: Patrick Bull, I'm sure. But I don't know if it's

940
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: just an annual February thing where I get a little

941
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: bit excited about looking at these rosters. I can't remember

942
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: last year or the year before.

943
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: We talked about this.

944
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we've just been yearning for it for two

945
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: years and maybe as a Raptors fan. Seeing Scottie Barnes

946
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: and Precious Achua in there exciting stuff, the first time

947
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: the Raptors have had two players in the event since

948
00:43:51,880 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. Barniani j Mario new guy.

949
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: Well, I never like I remember Barneioti for sure, but

950
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: I knew it was someone stupid. Well, when was he

951
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: in the dunk contest?

952
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 5: Yeah?

953
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably same year. They didn't pay for two flights,

954
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: two separate years.

955
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: I was surprised, Precious to chew, I got.

956
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: Some a surprise, a surprise, you know.

957
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's hear from you guys. Any

958
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: other What about this guy? What about this young guy

959
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: that we didn't say here on today show? Let us

960
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: know in the stream, team, let us know in the

961
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: comments or tweet at us at no dunk saying okay,

962
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: our next little thing here a little different. But on Tuesday,

963
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: ESPN published a wide ranging report from Ramona Shelbourne detailing

964
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: the many layers of the standoff between Ben Simmons and

965
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers. I loved every paragraph from this,

966
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: so I thought, hey, let's have some fun with it.

967
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: Here are my top five parts from Ramona's latest Ben

968
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: When Simmons versus the Sixers call.

969
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: Him tom By top five, top five, top By, top five,

970
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: top fu.

971
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so at number five, Lee, this one's for you,

972
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: because again we debated this on yesterday's show about is

973
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Simmons like actually getting fine? Is he really losing money?

974
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: Is?

975
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: Why isn't this a bigger story? Remember Tass and I

976
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: were like, Nah, I don't think so, and You're like,

977
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: he might be. Well, turns out he is. According to Ramona,

978
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: Simmons has lost over nineteen million dollars in fines since

979
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: the season began. Each missed game cost him about three

980
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand dollars. He hasn't cleared a paycheck

981
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: since the eight point twenty five million, which was twenty

982
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: five percent of his thirty three million dollars salary that

983
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: was due to him back in the start of October.

984
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: Every two weeks, the team sends a notice with an

985
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: explanation of all the fines he has accumulated for failing

986
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: to render services instead of a one point three seven

987
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: to five million paycheck, and by the end of the season,

988
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: she writes if he does not play for the Sixers

989
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: or any other team, Simmons could lose another twelve million.

990
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: This.

991
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you must have been a little surprised by

992
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: this part from this call up because you were again

993
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: were like, is that happening?

994
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: She says it is, She says it is. There's another

995
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: line there that that further explains it though as well.

996
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: So to summarize, he got an eight million dollar check

997
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: to start the season because he has a unique clause

998
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: in his contract that says you get twenty five percent.

999
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: He's been fined nineteen million dollars since, but an arbitrator

1000
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: will settle this eventually. So yeah, we can talk about

1001
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: the man's money and dollar in dollar up, dollar in

1002
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: dollar up, but eventually someone is going to adjudicate this

1003
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: and the union's going to say, hey, get some of

1004
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: that money back to Ben. And so yeah, the final dollars.

1005
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: That looks bad for Ben now, but I think I

1006
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: think Ben will get more in his pocket eventually, and

1007
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: that twenty five percent helped out right off the bed.

1008
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 5: Nice.

1009
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 7: Nice.

1010
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: He's probably already made forty million in his career more more.

1011
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: Anything to add to that first piece here, though, I mean.

1012
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: It is interesting though, I'm not sure how he can

1013
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 5: get any of those missed game checks back. The games

1014
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 5: are done. They're done, they've played. So I'm not sure,

1015
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 5: even with an arbitrator, what could you say to recoup

1016
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 5: any of that money. I mean going forward, certainly, if

1017
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 5: he sits on the bench, if he dresses and suits up,

1018
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: maybe he gets paid then. But those games, I mean,

1019
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 5: you can't replay them, so I'm not sure he was

1020
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 5: going to get it back anyway. I mean, three hundred

1021
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 5: and sixty thousand dollars he's sitting there the game.

1022
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, next piece here, number four, I guess. According

1023
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: to sources close to Simmons, he's upset that Embiid seemed

1024
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: to blame him for last season's playoff loss, when Simmons

1025
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: did not blame Embiid for Embiid's poor showing in the

1026
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: playoffs against the Raptors in twenty eighteen. He's frustrated that

1027
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Rivers Doc Rivers didn't come to see him while he

1028
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: was training in Los Angeles last summer. And there was

1029
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: a little more to this. This part is getting a

1030
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: lot of buzz. I would say, like a lot of

1031
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: the headlines here, that Simmons has pissed off that Embid

1032
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: got upset with him with what happened against the Hawks,

1033
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: but hey, Simmons didn't get upset Embiid when he was

1034
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: a plus ninety in that series against the Raptors. And yeah,

1035
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: his raw numbers were down because all did a great job,

1036
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: he was sick and all that. But this is weird, uh,

1037
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: because this is coming from Simmons camp here.

1038
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not surprised to hear it, though, because Embiid

1039
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: and Doc rivers one hundred percent through Simmons under the bus.

1040
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: There was a smarter way they could have done. They

1041
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: could have voiced their displeasure to him and then just said, yeah,

1042
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 4: we got Ben's back. Wish you would have taken that shot,

1043
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: but he didn't. There are other ways they could have

1044
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: gone around gone about it. So it's not surprising to

1045
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: me that that sticks in Ben simmons kraw And if

1046
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 4: you're like if he just like, hey, let me see here,

1047
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: pulls up Basketball Reference and looks at Joel Embiid's stats

1048
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: against the Raptors in twenty nineteen seventeen and a half

1049
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: a game, nine rebounds, only thirty seven percent from the field.

1050
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 4: You can see where he's making the argument. But indeed

1051
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 4: was not the problem in in that playoff series, and honestly,

1052
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: Marc gasolf I think that really shows something that Marcus

1053
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: al is a pretty solid defender even late in his career,

1054
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: that he was doing that. My favorite part though, is

1055
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: the paragraph. Simmons doesn't dispute that he didn't reply when

1056
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: Rivers texted and called him several times over the summer,

1057
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: But in hindsight, Simmons feels Rivers and the Sixers could

1058
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: have done more like showing up at a well known

1059
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 4: gym in the San Fernando Valley where he was training.

1060
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 5: I can't believe that's out there, because wasn't it They

1061
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: they were getting on a plane to go out and

1062
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: to try to convince him come back, and he said

1063
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 5: don't come. And now he's saying this. Yeah, that's just

1064
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 5: beyond stupid. If you ask me like that doesn't make

1065
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 5: any sense. The Simmons and then beat stuff against statistically,

1066
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: and I think Embiid had the opposet stomach in that

1067
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: series as well. That doesn't really make sense. Yeah, this

1068
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: is even this sounds even stupid to say you could

1069
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: have shown up. We tried to.

1070
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: You said which one do you want?

1071
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1072
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ramona is as Yeah, she is relaying what's coming

1073
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: from Simmons camp. Trying to play both sides here. There's

1074
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: other parts of this that aren't included. Yeah, they tried

1075
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: to go out and see him. They wanted to see him.

1076
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: Joelan Biid got on the microphone and said, hey, support

1077
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: our brother. He called him at the beginning of this season.

1078
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: You know again, I'm sure that message wasn't for the fans.

1079
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: It was for Ben Simmons. So I don't know, but

1080
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: this is this he said, he said, he said, stuff.

1081
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 4: Is it's rough.

1082
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean their teammates and it's unfortunate. But yeah, I

1083
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: mean the heat at the moment. Yeah, Doc said, I

1084
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: don't know if Ben Simmons can be a point guard

1085
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: to lead us to a championship team. And he said

1086
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: we lost the game when that man didn't dunk the

1087
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: ball and that was it for Ben. I mean they

1088
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they could recoup it. I guess unless

1089
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 3: they went to San Fernando and.

1090
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: Why at a well known gym.

1091
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 4: They won there.

1092
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: And yeah, he's been working out at a well known

1093
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: gym in Philadelphia. But then that has to stop me

1094
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: because people see him. So now now he's back at

1095
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: the practice facility. What an article.

1096
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: All right, my next favorite part from this article. Some

1097
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 2: within the organization believe Simmons has built up his return

1098
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: so much the reality would be nothing compared to what

1099
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: he has imagined it to be. Quote, he'd get booed

1100
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 2: for a few games, but if he played well, everyone

1101
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: would get over it. One team source says, the fans

1102
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: booed Joel and Tobias Harris too, and they both got

1103
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: through it. I think there's a fascinating little addition here

1104
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: to this article. Do you believe that's the case that

1105
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: maybe Simmons has built it up into some of mine. Yeah,

1106
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna boo them if he were to return, And

1107
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever gonna happen to play for

1108
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: the Sixers, but if he did, there'd be booze and

1109
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: then if he played well, it's like, oh great, now

1110
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: we got Simmons.

1111
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 5: Fans are as fickle as anything, right, of course, if

1112
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: he plays well, they're gonna forget about it quickly. If

1113
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 5: they start winning games, they're like, oh man, this guy's awesome.

1114
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: They forget about that stuff. They want to get it

1115
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 5: out at the start during introductions, Boo, boo, boom, Simmons

1116
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 5: goes out there, grabs that rebound, zips down the floor,

1117
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: has a high highlight reel dunk. Team wins. He's playing defense, he's.

1118
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: Given this to the crowd.

1119
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1120
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 5: The Philadelphia fans, we talked about it earlier, like would

1121
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: you rather apathy or the passion? The same with the Knicks.

1122
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: They're passionate both ways. They will absolutely support one of

1123
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 5: their own if they're winning. If he goes out there

1124
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 5: and he doesn't pass and he doesn't care, then they'll

1125
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: do him and they'll be like, get off. But if

1126
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 5: he's out there playing his ass off, they are going

1127
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: to support him. I believe one hundred percent. After the

1128
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: initial like, just let us get this out, just let

1129
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 5: us this one, because fans just won't winners. Fans will

1130
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: if your team is winning. They don't care how it

1131
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 5: comes about what happens. Though.

1132
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: If they start losing and he passes up another shortly,

1133
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna they're.

1134
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 5: Going to do him. Absolutely, they're going to do him

1135
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 5: if he does that. But if he takes a shot,

1136
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: let's say a good shot, like you know, if he

1137
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 5: goes off for that shot and say concert or miss it,

1138
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 5: but he's trying, I think they're going to be more

1139
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 5: sympathetic at least to say, hey, he tried out there.

1140
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought this up because Kyle Nubeck.

1141
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 5: Yes of Philadelphia, kidding.

1142
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Voice, He's said, and I need this is spot on.

1143
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: People are willing to forgive failure and mystic for people

1144
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: who prove themselves, willing to recognize their own limitations and

1145
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: work to fix them. What they won't do is show

1146
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: respect to someone who opts out of even trying when

1147
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: things get tough. And that is maybe the fundamental difference

1148
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: between an EMBIID and a Ben Simmons. Yeah, and like

1149
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: because EMBIID, like, you know, okay, against that series against

1150
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: the Raptors, he's crying after it and stuff like that

1151
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: didn't have a great series, not a dominant series. You know,

1152
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: he flames out against the Celtics. People are like, ooh,

1153
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: missing Ben Simmons in that series. Maybe it is Ben

1154
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Simmons is you know, the real engine to this team,

1155
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: And instead he takes all that He's like, well, screw you,

1156
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm just going to get better and better and then

1157
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: finish his MVP runner up and of course might win

1158
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: it this year. Who knows and where Simmons is tackling

1159
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: this as the complete opposite of like, no, you don't know,

1160
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: you don't understand, and I'll show you, but i'll show

1161
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: you in some other team. So I thought that was

1162
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: a fascinating point. The Philly Voice.

1163
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 5: All right, Philly Voice, Cale does a great job, by

1164
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: the way it does. It does.

1165
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Okay, next one here, only two left. Every night, around

1166
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: ten pm, Simmons receives the team schedule for the next day.

1167
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: He shows up to shoot arounds in film sessions when

1168
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: and where he's required to, according to a source close

1169
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: to him, to avoid getting fine for missing the team activity,

1170
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: but he rarely stays long or engages with anyone. This

1171
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: is really strange if this is true. So he has

1172
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: still been like periodically showing up to shoot rounds and

1173
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: walk throughs and just sort of stands in the corner,

1174
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: probably doesn't engage all that much, say anything at all.

1175
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: That is working on his jumper.

1176
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 5: It's even weird, bet be I mean working on his jumper. Yeah,

1177
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing. If he's taken all this

1178
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 5: time off and when he comes back he still hasn't

1179
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 5: got any semblance of any improvement on that jump shot.

1180
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 5: That's when fans are gonna be like, well, you weren't

1181
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 5: doing anything, you were just hanging around. So I hope

1182
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 5: he's working on it. I hope he's got something he's

1183
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 5: adding to his game.

1184
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think this like this concept task of

1185
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: like it's I almost want to like applaud the Sixers

1186
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: and their record so far. If this is the case

1187
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: that Benson he's like you see him around, he's sort

1188
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: of there, but you have to like pretend he's not,

1189
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: And like, that's got to be strange.

1190
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, shoot arounds and film sessions. I definitely didn't know that.

1191
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: You got to assume that that is. It's definitely true

1192
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: that's happening. How many he's there, I guess you know,

1193
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: if you want to get all fickle, like is he

1194
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: there all the time, it's just a it is a

1195
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: very very very very strange scenario. He's working out. According

1196
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: to Ramona Shepard's article, he's looking good in terms of

1197
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: being physically ready. If there's a team out there looking

1198
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: for Ben. According to this article, the guy is good.

1199
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: Go to a local gym. You may see him, you

1200
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: may not, but he's ready to play basketball. And he

1201
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: attends the occasional shoot around or film session. So he's

1202
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: he likes basketball.

1203
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: So but why, I mean, they have to invite him

1204
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: so that they can find him, right, pretty much, But

1205
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 4: why would you want him around?

1206
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 2: Right?

1207
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I assume he's getting paid for those things.

1208
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 4: That's what it says, is that he goes to avoid

1209
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: being fine. Yes, but I'm like, I don't know, man,

1210
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: this is just a lot of extra clerical work for

1211
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: the Sixers. They got to send him a schedule that

1212
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 4: he's gonna show up and you're not gonna talk to him.

1213
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 4: They're sending him all these envelopes filled with the reasons

1214
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 4: he's being fined.

1215
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: Like, I think the reason is why they want him back.

1216
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: They want him to be there. I think they're not

1217
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: cutting bait, right, there's still there. They're like a boyfriend

1218
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 3: that's still yearning for that girlfriend. I'm gonna come around

1219
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: you in that local gym where I know you hang out.

1220
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: See at the local gym can be a little local,

1221
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: well known gym.

1222
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe a little rekindling.

1223
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: My final part land On a positive note, this one's

1224
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: just a little silly. It was near the end, Ramona wrote.

1225
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: In many ways, Simmons has already moved on. He still

1226
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: lives with his Italian mastiff, Baane in the house he'd

1227
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: originally hoped would be a forever home near Philadelphia, although

1228
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: he put it up for sale months ago. Every man's

1229
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: got to have a dial in all honesty. You know,

1230
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Simmons sounds like he's going through it, and a lot

1231
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: of it. I know people are upset with him, and

1232
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: I question this whole mental health stuff, and that's you know, unfortunate,

1233
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: I think. But at least he's got a dark that's

1234
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: got to help me.

1235
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 4: Bean.

1236
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: I like that name too, a pretty good dum nam.

1237
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's got a dog. He's engaged too, apparently, Yes,

1238
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 5: that's right according to the article. So yeah, anyway, this

1239
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: is an awful situation, and I honestly think I don't

1240
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 5: right now. There's no traction, there's no whispers, doesn't appear

1241
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: to be close to a deal. So I think he's

1242
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 5: going to be on the roster for Philadelphia at least

1243
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: for the rest of this season, whether or not he

1244
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: chooses to say, all right, I'm going to try to

1245
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 5: play probably not. Probably not. But and again, when the

1246
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 5: Sixers are winning like this, they're not missing him, So

1247
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: they're not going to be like, all right, we'll we'll

1248
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: do whatever we can to get him back right now.

1249
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 5: They're kind of like, you're only really hurting yourself at

1250
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 5: the moment by sitting out. You're not playing yourself out

1251
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 5: of this team. You're not making yourself attractive to other teams.

1252
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: So it's up to you.

1253
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: My final just take away from this entire article is like, again,

1254
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: it feels like a lot of the stuff is coming

1255
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: from Simmons, like this absolute Ramona is getting a lot

1256
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: of disinformation, and you would think because of that, you

1257
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: might feel a little more sympathetic to Ben Simmons after

1258
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: reading it. And I'm not sure that's the main takeaway

1259
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. I think it's I think

1260
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: it's the opposite. I think there was a lot of

1261
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: stuff in here, like the questioning and bead in twenty

1262
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: nineteen playoffs and yeah, oh where are you, doc? Why

1263
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: don't you come to see like find me?

1264
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: It almost made it find me in the valley?

1265
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: Am I crazy to think that?

1266
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of eye roll moments. It's even

1267
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 4: got me questioning, like is Bane Simmons the problem it

1268
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 4: used to be about raising the cat when the Sixers won.

1269
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: This guy got a dog named after a villain, and

1270
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: suddenly everything falls apart. I hate to say it saying

1271
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 4: we do that dog. Maybe every man shouldn't have a dog.

1272
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: So is it just named after the villain, just named

1273
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: after them? Just because battered Desmond? Yeah? Bad or Desmond

1274
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: Desmond's b SEPs.

1275
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: I guess it is an Italian mess. A lot of muscles,

1276
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: don't they.

1277
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: It's like that. It's like that jacked up kangaroo. It's

1278
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: got some big pectorals under there. I think I'm assuming.

1279
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: I will say I think Ramona did a good job

1280
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: in writing both sides. It wasn't just a hey, this

1281
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: is what Ben Simmons Camp is saying it. Yeah, made

1282
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: him seem somewhat petty because he's calling out an old

1283
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: teammate just like he was called out. So the two

1284
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: rights don't make it wrong there and yeah, but you know,

1285
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think, Yeah, Ramona was just

1286
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: spewing the stuff from Simmons Camp, so that's why it

1287
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: makes you feel that way. I think she did a

1288
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: good job of that. But I think it's clear that

1289
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: Philly knows that the best player that they could have

1290
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: by the trade deadline or in March or April. It

1291
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: ain't anybody on someone else's roster. It's Ben Simmons, I

1292
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: would say, so, I think there's still he's still around.

1293
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: He's still around, they're still playing it. Yeah, it seems

1294
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: very very unlikely that he plays for the Sixers, but

1295
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 3: they're still showing him some love.

1296
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: You still believe it sounds like it's possibility.

1297
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I said it's very unlikely, but

1298
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: they still they know who the best player that they

1299
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: It happened March in April.

1300
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, but this is basketball. There's five people

1301
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: out there. He might be the best talent of anyone

1302
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: they actually traded for. But that does not mean it

1303
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: will work and that they will all like link up

1304
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: back together and everything will be copathetic. I think the

1305
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: opposite could happen if he actually returned.

1306
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 4: Well, didn't Joel Embiid blame the fact that the team

1307
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 4: is built around Simmons. He's like it's been built around

1308
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: him for years. Right, That's something Joel Embiid said as

1309
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: a way to lure him back, basically saying we're not

1310
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: doing that anymore. It didn't work. So I don't know.

1311
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: To me, both sides have been wrong basically the entire

1312
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 4: time for this, and now we're just getting the ins

1313
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: and outs and the actual details of exactly how they

1314
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: were wrong.

1315
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: All right, man, let's hear from everybody out there. Are

1316
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: you tired of us talking about this? I'm sure some

1317
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: of you are. That's okay, I get it, I get it.

1318
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: But that was a different way to it was to

1319
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: discuss it, right, Okay, I will take one more break

1320
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: when we come back. Jeanie's got tweeted the night and

1321
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: we got picking results. Don't go anywhere. All right, back

1322
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: with the Nodungk's crew here in the classic factories. Time

1323
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: for tweet of the night.

1324
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: Tweet over night.

1325
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 6: Wow, Yeah, Tweeted the Night comes from the Canadian Broadcasting

1326
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 6: Corporation CBC GEM to be exact, and that is I'm

1327
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 6: out of the loop, but I think it's sort of

1328
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: their their streaming service where you watch, you know, the classics,

1329
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 6: Coronation Street, probably Degrassi, I would think, sure, and of

1330
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 6: course Murdoch Mysteries and the tweet. I don't have the tweet.

1331
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 6: I have it in front of me, but I'm not

1332
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 6: going to show it to you. Basically, it's showcasing a

1333
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 6: cameo by Raptors coach Nick Nurse, and I have it

1334
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 6: here for our enjoyment.

1335
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 5: So here it is.

1336
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, yes, here it is.

1337
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 7: Now.

1338
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: I've done some rough calculations.

1339
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 7: The average height of each of the boys on the

1340
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 7: team is five foot four inches. Arms extended overhead increases

1341
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 7: that average to six foot ten inches, leaving a gap

1342
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 7: from the tip of their fingers to the top of

1343
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 7: the basket of three feet, give or take a few inches.

1344
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 4: Obviously, sir, does your team won a game yet?

1345
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: No?

1346
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 5: You thinking too? Are healthy?

1347
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: Well, we are trying a.

1348
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 5: Word of advice.

1349
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: How are you playing for it? I've spent my entire

1350
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: life in locker rooms. You need to let the coach

1351
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 4: coach the team. The boys need one voice to listen

1352
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: to let the man lead.

1353
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 5: I suppose you're right. Yeah, I know, I'm right.

1354
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: By the way, what's your team name? We don't have

1355
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 4: a name yet.

1356
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 5: Team needs a.

1357
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: Name, something fierce like Raptors, Raptors.

1358
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: Trust me, it'll catch on one day.

1359
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 5: Must be from the circus.

1360
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: Awesome, like it really really buried that shot and then

1361
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: spinning the basketball. That's what got the laughs.

1362
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: What was awesome. Hey, man, I think it looks like

1363
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: he was good, Like he's he's body.

1364
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's he's what the show looks insane?

1365
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 6: Yeah absolutely, I mean it's in his fifteenth season, so

1366
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 6: we couldn't believe.

1367
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, must be doing something right.

1368
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 5: I feel most as old as you guys doing shows.

1369
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: I was tweeting about this mystery that I've never remember

1370
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: the show.

1371
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 6: Okay, I remember when it when it was launched, and

1372
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 6: I remember hearing the pitch and it was just basically like, oh,

1373
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 6: it's CSI but in the eighteen hundreds, and I was like, yeah,

1374
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 6: that sounds pretty cool, but it's not cool at all.

1375
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 6: It's basically Matt. I think I've actually never seen it.

1376
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, people just say it's like feel good Canadiana. Oh

1377
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: just someone also said it's great napping television.

1378
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: What does Nick Nurse sound like? Okay, you guys, I've

1379
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: I've watched that clip twice. Now, I don't know it's

1380
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: his cadence each time it comes to me, but then

1381
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 3: it's gone. Anyways, every time.

1382
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: I'm always like, oh, that's what he sounds like. It

1383
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 6: doesn't doesn't match his voice for some reason. Anyways, this

1384
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 6: brought me back to my uh my cameo on a

1385
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 6: Canadian delight, Degrassi. I've already said it. I've I was

1386
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 6: on de Grassy Junior High. There's the kids of Degrassi

1387
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 6: and then they all went to Junior High and I

1388
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 6: was on that one. And I have a clip that

1389
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna show. Yes it's not a shot, but this

1390
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 6: is uh a st well, I don't yeah, let's let's well,

1391
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 6: let's have a look at it. This is from the

1392
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 6: episode entitled Dinner and a Show. And if you look closely,

1393
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 6: there is there I am in the background.

1394
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I didn't need to act for that, I'm sure.

1395
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 6: Well, that was my first time meeting her, and she

1396
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 6: was her name is Maya, uh you know, a very

1397
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 6: nice person. And uh so here we are Joey Jeremiah

1398
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 6: jumping into my shot there. Yeah yeah, and then and

1399
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 6: then here we go. This is you know, we cut

1400
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 6: away and then we come back and here I am.

1401
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 6: Now listen, just look at me acting. I'm not speaking

1402
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 6: basically saying the alphabet because the dialogue up here and

1403
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 6: now I want to highlight that that one thing there,

1404
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 6: this is me again in slow motion popcorn in the

1405
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 6: mouth and watch the little flick of my.

1406
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: You know what as people do in the popcorn.

1407
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 6: Well, I'm talking, I'm making a point. I'm you know,

1408
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 6: I'm on a date with this lovely girl. And uh, anyways,

1409
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 6: I feel your Nick. I feel like me and Nick

1410
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 6: are in the same you know club or whatever. You know,

1411
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 6: long running uh Canadian shows where we made a cameo,

1412
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 6: although I didn't get any lines unfortunately.

1413
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: But did you eat a lot of popcorn that day?

1414
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 5: Oh?

1415
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 6: My god, so much popcorn? Yeah, like bags and bags

1416
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 6: and bags of it.

1417
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 5: But it was a fun day.

1418
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 6: It was good, good times.

1419
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: Did you watch either of these shows De Grassy or

1420
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: Murdoch Mysteries in Canada?

1421
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 4: No?

1422
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: Not not?

1423
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: Did you even know it was a show?

1424
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 5: I don't know. Yes, I don't know about the other

1425
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 5: one though.

1426
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: All right, amazing tweeted we got to get that clip, Jady,

1427
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: drop it in the slack please. I make the same

1428
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 3: hand motion when I had the pleasure of interviewing Kobe Bryant.

1429
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: I mean that same the same flick. Yeah, we got

1430
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: to do a split scroll. Okay, So Degrassi versus Murdock

1431
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: is de Grassy still on? It's coming back Digrassi versus

1432
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: Murdock Mysteries. I know no one's watched Murdock Mysteries, but

1433
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: Degrassy an absolute classic, an institution, worldwide institution time. And

1434
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: I grew up.

1435
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 6: I literally grew up four blocks from the actual Degrassy

1436
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 6: Street and uh and when I was in Australia, lee

1437
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 6: people would be sometimes I would get they would never

1438
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 6: say American, they would say Irish or sometimes they would

1439
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 6: say are you cant haden? Just based on my accent?

1440
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 6: But one time somebody said, you sound like Degrassy, you

1441
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 6: know the show Degrassy, And I'm like.

1442
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 4: I was on, recognize what's going on, but.

1443
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 6: Like they had this stupid, that Canadian accent that all

1444
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 6: the kids talk with. That's what I apparently talked with

1445
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 6: and probably still do to this day.

1446
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 3: So there's there's some accents in that show.

1447
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah.

1448
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: All right, Well let us know a if you watch

1449
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: Murdoch Mysteries, be if you remember the episode of Degrassi

1450
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: that JD is in any of your other favorite Canadian shows,

1451
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: let us know. Okay, pick them. Results from last night

1452
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: it was the heat Raptors game raps favored by one

1453
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: and a half. I picked the Raps. Trey picked the Raps.

1454
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: Lee picked the Raps. Tats had swerved once again to

1455
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: start this brand new month of February, and the Raps

1456
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: got it done in the end.

1457
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: Covering there that Max Drews three could have.

1458
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that was close, very very close. So we're

1459
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: all one and oh zhe to one. What's tonight's game?

1460
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: Nine games on the schedule this evening and some good ones.

1461
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 3: John Morant in Madison Square Garden Grizzlies Nicks on ESPN.

1462
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: Kevin Porter Junior facing his old team, the Cleveland Cavaliers

1463
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 3: the Cavaliers Rockets. That's a doozy Nuggets Jazz also on ESPN.

1464
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: A little confused why the Jazz are three point favorites

1465
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 3: because I don't think Rudy or Donovan Mitchell are playing.

1466
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: They're both listed as out. And the one that we're

1467
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 3: picking also a good one, not really okay, see visiting

1468
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks. It's an eleven and a half point spread,

1469
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: the Mass favored by eleven and a half. It's a tough,

1470
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: tough selection. Three of us are on the Mass Skeets

1471
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 3: myself in Trey Lelly taking the thunder just to cover

1472
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: just a cover.

1473
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made a mistake this morning. I've been doing

1474
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: pretty well here and pick them. But I'm making my

1475
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: picks like instantaneously right usually just you shared in the slack,

1476
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: I go, boom, give me that team I've been working

1477
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: out for me. Today I did the opposite big line.

1478
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: I think the big line got me. I think I

1479
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 2: even responded to you wowsers. I think I wrote back,

1480
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: and then I started digging into the MAVs. I'm like,

1481
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: hold on, let's see how they do. You know, do

1482
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: they bounce back after a loss? And sure enough they do.

1483
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: They win big after loss?

1484
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: Well they You're good.

1485
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I'm.

1486
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 2: Overthinking it, is my point.

1487
01:09:58,920 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: I agree.

1488
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: I'm already concerned that you're gonna be right with this one.

1489
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 5: Then anytime it's a double digit line, it's tough. It's like,

1490
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 5: you know, I saw eleven points, I said, I think

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 5: the fun they can at least keep it within eleven

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Speaker 5: horse they just smacked Wait just Alexander. Of course, other

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Speaker 5: than that, if I can just keep it class. But

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Speaker 5: it's that was a great game, boss. I got to

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Speaker 5: testy because it was just enough points where you.

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Speaker 2: Like, great line.

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Speaker 3: That what the line makers.

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Speaker 5: Do I like it when you look at a game

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Speaker 5: like they, Oh, I could really go either way on

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Speaker 5: this one. So all the double digit points, I'll take him.

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Speaker 5: See what happens.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's today's classic here from the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 2: But we got another one coming in. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna put the little JD flair

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Speaker 2: of his cameo on to grasse you on our social

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Speaker 2: media gems?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, you know. We got to see in

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Speaker 3: the editing room if it works or not good, of

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Speaker 3: course we're gonna force it. I'm going to force it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it should be there.

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Speaker 2: at no dunks dot com. We'll see you later today

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Speaker 2: on the beach. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 4: love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember we live in the

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Speaker 3: city where red velvet Kevin Herder plays basketball. We've got

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Speaker 3: our own red velvet here. In Trey's shirt or what

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Speaker 3: color is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does look different colors.

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Speaker 4: I've been calling myself a Cranberry boy all morning, so

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Speaker 4: I think it's a Cranberry colored shirt maroon if you

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Speaker 4: want to get basic with it, a little more purple.

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Speaker 2: To me than a Cranberry's a little over ripe.

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Speaker 3: Looks like a nice fine grape. Drink that in a wine.

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Speaker 4: You want to wring me out, Buddy, I got some

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Speaker 4: soaken wet pits here. Not very breathable velvet. It turns

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Speaker 4: out pick a bray off.

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Speaker 2: You have to drink. Drink herbs wine. My wine would

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Speaker 2: beat his armpit sweat tasty braceletabe people