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Speaker 2: we are ball heavy today. My gosh, football on the

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Speaker 2: real football is rolled around here, we will get to

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Speaker 2: a couple of teams where objects are a lot closer

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Speaker 2: So it'll always pop up at the top of your screen. Okay, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: So we go to the NFL over here, all right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, when you're driving, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it says this anymore, but on your side mirror,

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Speaker 2: it would always say objects in your mirror are closer

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Speaker 2: and then you remember, wait a minute, he's like on

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Speaker 2: my bumper, he's right freaking there. So objects are a

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Speaker 2: lot closer than they appear. I think that's true for

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Speaker 2: a couple of teams. We just had this Micah Parsons

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Speaker 2: trade Cowboys Packers, right, he goes from the Cowboys to

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Speaker 2: the Packers. If you start looking at these teams, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's fashionable to clown the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: because they haven't been to the NFC title game in forever, right,

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Speaker 2: it's been thirty years since they've been there, and the

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Speaker 2: Packers they've had more success. They're not clowned nearly as

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Speaker 2: much as the Cowboys are, right, And some of it

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Speaker 2: is with good reason, But I was just looking at

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Speaker 2: it last night, and it was interesting how it played

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Speaker 2: out where I was looking at the last four years

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Speaker 2: Packers versus the Cowboys, because that's how long Michaeh. Parsons

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Speaker 2: has been in the league, right, He's been there for

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Speaker 2: the last four years. And if you look at the

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Speaker 2: Packers compared to the Cowboys, the Cowboys have won more

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Speaker 2: games over the last four years.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We forget Cowboys twelve and five for three straight seasons,

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Speaker 2: and then they were seven and ten last season. Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott only started eight games. If you look at the

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Speaker 2: Packers these last four years, starting in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: thirteen and four, eight and nine, that was Rogers last season,

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Speaker 2: sub five hundred team didn't make the playoffs, then nine

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Speaker 2: and eight, then eleven and six last season. Cowboys actually

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Speaker 2: have won two more games than the Packers over the

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Speaker 2: last four years. It's kind of interesting, right, same playoff records.

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Speaker 2: Both are one and three over the last four years,

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Speaker 2: and they both have one season where they missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Very comparable numbers like team wise in terms of regular

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Speaker 2: season wins, what they've done in the postseason. What's the

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Speaker 2: point of all of this? What I'm thinking here, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: you tell me if you're on board or not. I

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Speaker 2: would push back on the idea that Micah Parsons is

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Speaker 2: like the missing link to winning it All for Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: He's a star pass rusher, He's an awesome player. Not

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Speaker 2: taking anything away from him, But do you think that

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Packers are way different over the

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Speaker 2: last four years? I don't. They might be different this season,

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Speaker 2: but over the last four years, Michael Parsons was on

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys and they've done nothing in the postseason. Why

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Speaker 2: Guess who lost to the Niners twice? Also the Packers.

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Speaker 2: So I just don't think when you look at those

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Speaker 3: They have been, Brian, but I think they're going in

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Speaker 3: different directions. Right now, that's fair. That part is fair,

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Speaker 3: like so is parts is the missing piece per se? No,

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Speaker 3: games he has played, right, sure, the Cowboys. I go

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Speaker 3: back to this. So there's a couple analytics that we

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Speaker 3: is it defines efficiency. Right. You know there's passing yards

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Speaker 3: of passes, that does that mean the defense played poorly? No,

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Speaker 3: just that's situation. Right. So I like analytics, right, I

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Speaker 3: It's called EPA. Right. There's basically two of them that

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Speaker 3: are they're universal EPA and and DVOA. And they said

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Speaker 3: they're basically the same thing, but they're way different ways

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Speaker 3: to calculate it Parsons on the field for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: When he is on the field in his career, the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys defense is number one in EPA. Okay, they're thirty one. Wow,

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Speaker 3: in the thousand snaps he's off the field. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: like that just shows you the impact he has on

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Speaker 3: not outside of quarterback. It's really not. There's not a

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Speaker 3: single reason why a team wins or loses. Okay. And

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Speaker 3: to act like the Cowboys and Cowboys fans as coping mechanism, Well,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't good in the playoffs, the four playoff games. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you want from me to say.

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to say, He's played four

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Speaker 3: playoff games. He wasn't great. I don't give me the situation,

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Speaker 3: give me the reason why. Okay, he didn't play as

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Speaker 3: well as your whole team didn't play as well. So

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Speaker 3: the micro partner this thing, and and so I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he's the missing link for the Packers, but

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Speaker 3: his ability to make them just that much better. Remember

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Speaker 3: last year, Brian, they lost games to only playoff teams

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Speaker 3: by a handful of points, Like they're they're they're knocking

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Speaker 3: to just be better overall, And maybe you think to yourself, well,

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Speaker 3: he was beat up last year. He was really never healthy.

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Speaker 3: get different parts. It's certainly fair to to to believe

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Speaker 3: all those things, right, And so I don't know Brian

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Speaker 3: if the right way to put is he's the missing

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Speaker 3: ability to affect the game defensively makes him a very

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Speaker 3: valuable piece to any team. The Packers hadn't had a

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Speaker 3: cap space, correct, they had the draft picks. They're they're

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Speaker 3: close to being much better this season they were, you know,

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Speaker 3: they're super young. Experience matters in the NFL, right, getting

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Speaker 3: the Packers. The Cowboys, to me, went about this is

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Speaker 3: just the complete wrong way. You just cannot People say

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Speaker 3: it's a hers Walker trade. It's not. It's not. Parsons

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Speaker 3: foolish to think of this as the part as the

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Speaker 3: herschel Walker. You didn't get as much back. You got

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Speaker 3: two draft picks in a defense attack the herschel Walker trade.

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Speaker 3: You you end to put seven. And I'm watching the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys dock right now, Brian. And it's great, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, if you want to really good, Yeah, good do.

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Speaker 3: Well. It's it's fascinating about it. The herschel Walk I

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Speaker 3: didn't reized this. I didn't. I didn't know. This is

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Speaker 3: that they actually did not get as many draft picks.

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Speaker 3: Originally they actually had to they had to cut the

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Speaker 3: the trade to get the draft pick. And the Vikings

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Speaker 3: did not think they would do that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's so it's so different.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah we even know about that. You'd be like, wait,

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Speaker 3: what you thought they just keep the old guys? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not all the draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Again, know they got they got all the conditional draft

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you would be like, of course the draft picks. Now,

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Speaker 3: it's not the same trade. On the same trade trade.

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Speaker 2: Without the conditional draft picks. They still got three first rounders,

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Speaker 2: what I mean? It was a mega hall in return

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Speaker 2: Michael Parson. That's my thing is listen. I know you're

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Speaker 2: down on CLV, you know, closing line value because sometimes

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Speaker 2: still doesn't work out for you. But over time you're

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Speaker 2: rather have, you know, minus three compared to minus five

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Speaker 2: It works out over the over the long haul. It's

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Speaker 2: the same concept with players. You want to maximize value,

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Speaker 2: to have. The Cowboys didn't do that with Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they dealing him in March? Right? Like you

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Speaker 2: They didn't do that. They traded him to a team

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Speaker 2: in their own conference. It's such a ridiculous way they

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Speaker 2: It was clumsy. It's similar to what the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 2: They didn't maximize his value either. So both Dallas teams

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Speaker 3: To me, Brian, the way they did it, it was

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Speaker 3: was pretty stummy. I mean, Jerry Jones was the kind

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Speaker 3: so he kept saying that they had a handshake deal done.

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Speaker 3: So Michael Parsons and and Jerry Jones went went they

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Speaker 3: had a meeting in where Parsons on his leadership, which

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Speaker 3: a second. You know, people are upset. Teammates are upset

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Speaker 3: about this podcast. He has right, how much of a

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Speaker 3: What were they before the Partians deal?

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Speaker 3: So I actually I like them too. I like them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I get it, and look at my workout

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Speaker 3: It's surely fair to say that I do I do

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Speaker 3: saying they might both just be the same team this year.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's trying. The Packers are much more

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Speaker 3: So for Jerry essentially to like to protect and like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't start fast enough. It took a whole

430
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Speaker 4: half for us to kind of even get the ball

431
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Speaker 4: down the field.

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Speaker 2: So that starts with me.

433
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Speaker 4: Get back to square one and then get back Monday

434
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Speaker 4: and you go prepare for Santasee State. Yeah, ultimately not

435
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 4: good enough. Obviously you don't want to start off season

436
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: zero to one. They're a good team. But I thought

437
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: we beat ourselves a lot, and that starts with me,

438
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 4: and I got to play better for us to win.

439
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Speaker 4: Can't wait till the second half to kind of get

440
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Speaker 4: things going.

441
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Speaker 3: Man.

442
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Speaker 2: I actually I got to add that to the mix, Jeff,

443
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Speaker 2: I've got it. Starts with me mix. It's very popular

444
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 2: phrase in sports. Now I'll have to try to dig

445
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: that up for you. I even put it to music.

446
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: It's tremendous. It might be a hit song one of

447
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: these days. But Arch Manning will be added to the

448
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: mix there. But we get it right, he didn't play well.

449
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Speaker 2: What would you say is the most sensible take when

450
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Speaker 2: it comes to Arch Manning right now? Because there are

451
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Speaker 2: some wild takes being floated out there. There are some

452
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Speaker 2: people who are like, this guy sucks. I knew it.

453
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: It was all hot here, Like, what do you think

454
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Speaker 2: I think is the most sensible opinion right now regarding Arch?

455
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Speaker 3: Well, I know that part of our job is to

456
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: say things that are inflammatory, right. We want to get

457
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: the word out, to listen to our program and say

458
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: things that let people know that we have our hot takes.

459
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Speaker 3: And the most sensible take is very clearly that he

460
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Speaker 3: with the way that Texas has built that for new

461
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: offensive linemen, some new skill guys, some portal guys, some

462
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: good players, but this was a very tough spot for

463
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Speaker 3: Arch to be in. And I think the part that

464
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Speaker 3: is disappointing is when you're a player like Arch, who's

465
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Speaker 3: supposed to be the player Arch is supposed to be,

466
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Speaker 3: is that you would like to see him elevate those

467
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Speaker 3: around him. I don't think we saw that very much

468
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Speaker 3: on on Saturday, And is others to point out, not

469
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: just me, others who you know, film study guys, and

470
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: one I is it felt like they really did didn't

471
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Speaker 3: trust him early in the game to be that quarterback.

472
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Speaker 3: And if you're if you're going to you know, to

473
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Speaker 3: to think he is the guy, you got to put

474
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Speaker 3: more offense in his hands. And it felt like Texas

475
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: was did not think he was a guy early in

476
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Speaker 3: that game. I think we saw that a little bit

477
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: with your Dame last night and they were like, oh,

478
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 3: like it's we got cars, got it like we got

479
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: to give a little more to do like to with

480
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Speaker 3: this game. And they did, and you live or die

481
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: by that absolutely, but I thought Texas just should have

482
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Speaker 3: been a little a little a little more offensive oriented

483
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Speaker 3: toward Arch early in the game. And when they finally

484
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: sort of did, it opened up a little bit. But

485
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Speaker 3: that that concerns me about why why were they not

486
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: so arch dominant to start? What was Sark worried about

487
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 3: was he worried the offensive line, and it's certainly there.

488
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: The offensive took four new starters on the road at

489
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Speaker 3: Ohio State, very talented starters, by the way, very starts

490
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: recruited great, right, they're great players haven't played a lot,

491
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Speaker 3: So maybe he was scared about them and in general

492
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Speaker 3: and in that moment, So the game plan was a

493
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: little bit muted for that reason. But to me, that's

494
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Speaker 3: the thing is like Archs, I bet Texas just kicks

495
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 3: butt against I can't say. I don't know if I can,

496
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: I can I say on this, I don't know if

497
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Speaker 3: I could say. I don't know what to say.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you can say.

499
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Speaker 3: Asked me. You can't say the S word. I never

500
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Speaker 3: I don't understand that. I just don't get I don't

501
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't get the rules here. I just say, I

502
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: just don't say anything, Okay, just keep it respectful. I

503
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: don't know. I just do so much satellite radios wherever

504
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: you want, satelite radio. So nonetheless, I think they probably

505
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 3: Whipple have state this weekend. Sounds they state this weekend,

506
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: and we sort of wait to see arch against Georgia

507
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: is the next moment, right is it? Do they give

508
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: him more offense? They trust him a little bit more?

509
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: Does he? You know? Is he sort of settled down

510
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: a little bit as a quarterback? Look, a lot of

511
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 3: pressure of this off seas a lot of eyeballs to him.

512
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Speaker 3: To me, that that's the most sensible take he's not

513
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: a bus yet, we don't know what he's gonna be.

514
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: And then just go back to the idea again of

515
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Speaker 3: what I started the show with Brian, is that experience

516
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: does matter in the sport. Okay, now to what degree

517
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 3: we can argue about what that is. But Archers does

518
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 3: not play a lot of football, and open up at

519
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: Ohio State is a very difficult task.

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Speaker 2: That's it, right, Like quite simply to me, the most

521
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: sensible take of arch Manning right now is bad game

522
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: doesn't automatically equal bad quarterback. Correct, he played badly. He

523
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: had a bad game. We're not gonna make excuses for it.

524
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's bad going forward or that's

525
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Speaker 2: he'll all he'll ever be. Because that's what a lot

526
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Speaker 2: of people are making it sound right now, like they're like, oh,

527
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Speaker 2: I knew this guy was just all hype, no substance.

528
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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the teams he was facing. There's

529
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Speaker 2: some of the teams he was facing in high school

530
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: not the best competition.

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Speaker 3: That, by the way, is so dumb. I've seen that,

532
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: like the he played, but okay, I I played. I

533
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: played like one guy who went to college in three years.

534
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Speaker 3: What is it who try, right, Yeah, that matter.

535
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that to me is what it boils down to,

536
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: is like I wouldn't sell every share of Arch Manning stock.

537
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: There's a reason why he was the best recruit in

538
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Speaker 2: his class, the top one and number one recruit. There's

539
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: a reason why he's projected to maybe be a number

540
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: one overall draft pick. The guy is talented, he just

541
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: doesn't have a ton of experience. He's got more talent

542
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: than experience in college. So when that starts to even

543
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: out and he gets more experience, you might see a

544
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: much better version of Arch Manning. So correct, that's it, right,

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't throw everything out with one bad performance.

546
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Speaker 3: The thing that I found so interested in previewing this

547
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: season is to see, like which quarterbacks people were most

548
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: excited to watch this season and why people seem to

549
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: be excited for their success, and the arch is one

550
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: of them, obviously, Julian saying, you know, how's this quarterback?

551
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: And cars So he's Bryce's young guys, and then like

552
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: we just like sort of forgot the other guys the

553
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: excitement for to watch Iowa's quarterback, Like I don't really

554
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: understand that this is. It's like it's interesting, like how

555
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: what we cared about this season. Big names always sell.

556
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: Big names are the ones that we we we focus

557
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: on a lot. To me, we don't give enough to

558
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: the idea of the experience matters and all those things

559
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: sort of play the factor your Oklahoma John Matier played

560
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: really like Seller's experience got played better second half of

561
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: that game. I was a little surprised that a club

562
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: Nick and Nutsmeyer struggles a little bit, but they those

563
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: are tough defenses they played. But a lot of you know,

564
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: these presets and narratives like that, we can coct it,

565
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: man like all just blew up in our faces immediately.

566
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Speaker 2: Of course, I just give it a little bit of time.

567
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: By the way, it starts with me. Some of the

568
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: biggest names in the NFL loved this. Tom Brady was

569
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: using it when he was still playing. Starts with me, right, Okay,

570
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: you got you got to go use it. How about

571
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen Bill's quarterback.

572
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: Starts with me?

573
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: All right, we got Big Ben when he was still active.

574
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Speaker 2: Jeff It starts with me. We got a head coach,

575
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: we got Sean McVay. He was even using this phrase.

576
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Speaker 3: Starts with me.

577
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Got to do a better job.

578
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: We've all got to do better.

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Speaker 2: That's the best way to call out everybody else. It

580
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: starts with me. I mean, we sucked. It starts with me.

581
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: We couldn't protect It does start with me, right, It's

582
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: a good way to take accountability and maybe throw some

583
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: other people under the bus as well.

584
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Speaker 3: But especially if you go from it starts with me,

585
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: but also everyone else.

586
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Right, right, it's the new butt. Right, it's the you

587
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: say something nice, like, you know, Jeff's great to work with,

588
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: but and then it's it's way downhill from there, you

589
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like it starts with me, is

590
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: the new butt.

591
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: It is so funny. This starts with me. I never

592
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: thought about like that, but it definitely is right, no disrespect.

593
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: That's right, oh man?

594
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

595
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: We do have a mix, you know, to really make

596
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Speaker 2: this hit home. Here you go, you know the old

597
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: shaggy hit. Yeah, it wasn't me.

598
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't me.

599
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: We switched it to It starts with me. Here, try

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Speaker 2: this out. It starts with me, starts with me, starts

601
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: with me, starts with me. There you go, it's gonna

602
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: be in your head all day.

603
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Speaker 3: Do you remember you put that together? I hope you

604
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Speaker 3: made that.

605
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we put that together. Yeah, that's right.

606
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: They don't pay you guys enough around here.

607
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: I know it. I know. Look at that production right there.

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Veto.

609
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Speaker 2: Veto's giving me a standing ovation right now. He's our

610
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: sound guy. Does a tremendous job here at Fox Sports Radios. No,

611
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Speaker 2: you got a real talent man.

612
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Speaker 3: How's is Oriol with you this morning?

613
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Speaker 2: I told her last night, Jeff, I whispered to her

614
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Speaker 2: as she was leaving. I'm like, all right, I got

615
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: a fill in show. It starts at three am, so

616
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Speaker 2: you're welcome. She didn't understand. I don't think you know.

617
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: But she was hanging out for the Notre Dame game.

618
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Speaker 2: She was awesome. She it's her weekend routine, jeff our

619
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Speaker 2: weekend show. It starts at six am, right like Saturday Sunday.

620
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Speaker 2: It'll switch to seven am West Coast time this Sunday,

621
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Speaker 2: but she'll show up five minutes before the show on

622
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Speaker 2: the note and she just hang out all day. She'll

623
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Speaker 2: hang out for the show. I love this. It's a

624
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: neighborhood cat. For those people who are like, what is

625
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: he talkings? The neighborhood cat who comes over and visits

626
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: all the time. I love this cat. She's awesome.

627
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: Thet we're back to ten. We're back to ten o'clock

628
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We move it an

630
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: hour forward right to kickoff.

631
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Speaker 3: We I'm curious. So everyone listening, I'm sure has like

632
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 3: conference calls, right, and we had a conference call as

633
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: we get ready for our fourth season. Now can't to kickoff?

634
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. And I was like, not

635
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: the bad guy, but I had all these things to say,

636
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: like all these suggestions and whatnot. Everyone just was quiet

637
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: the entire time. No one, no one, no one had

638
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: anything else to say, And I felt like the bad guy.

639
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: Brian guy, he was like, yeah, hey, can we do this?

640
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Can we do that? We can we change this?

641
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Like yeah, They're like, what kind of what gripes do

642
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: you have with the bet mgmp here's schwartz? Oh man, well,

643
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't know about these in game lines, and what's

644
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: up with then? Why don't we have this?

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Speaker 3: Just and no and Brian at this and Brian by

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Speaker 3: the way, we talk about like we have the same

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Speaker 3: we sort of have the same things we don't like

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Speaker 3: and no one spoke up. No one's anything about it.

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Speaker 2: You know it seems like I left you hanging. I

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Speaker 2: totally forgot about the team totals. I love betting team totals,

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Speaker 2: whether it's college football, NFL, in game W n B A,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of times they're not available. It's just

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Speaker 2: select games now, So I don't like that. But I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I swear I didn't think of it.

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Speaker 3: At Crack said nothing for the guy who gambles for

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Speaker 3: a living, had no no complaints about anything whatsoever. I'm

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Speaker 3: just out here like and and and and I got

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Speaker 3: the circle back, like I all suckle back with you

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Speaker 3: in that one. Uh. And it was just it was

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Speaker 3: just hang just everyone hanging me out to dry Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: It's a yeah. Sometimes I hate being that guy in

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Speaker 3: the calls. But I was like, I got things I

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Speaker 3: gotta say. We do this once a year. We do

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Speaker 3: this one one year. Jared said nothing, Rich said nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like nobody Richard. I think rich is actually on the radio,

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Speaker 3: but like no one, no one say anything, Boston say anything.

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Speaker 3: Just just Jeff Schwartz completely, just every two minutes griping

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Speaker 3: about something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you're like, sorry, I thought we were in

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Speaker 2: the trust tree. You asked what could be better. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you what could be better. Yeah, that's funny, all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, I've got speaking of gripes, I've got

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Speaker 2: one thing that is a gripe that has been corrected. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and then also a major shout out. We'll provide both

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Speaker 2: of those things coming up. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in for Two Pros and a Cup of

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Speaker 2: Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: posted right after the end of the show. Shaggy was great. No,

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Speaker 2: no, no matter. Shaggy was fantastic. He had like he's kind

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Speaker 2: of like a Terrell Davis run.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Terrell Davis was four years in the NFL and then

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Speaker 2: had the knee injury and that was it. That's kind

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Speaker 2: of like Shaggy and music. Don't you think like he was.

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Speaker 2: He was there for a couple of songs, they had

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Speaker 2: a little stint, and then he was just gone, vanished, poof.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he tore his A cl two

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Speaker 2: or not, Jeff, But uh, I never I.

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Speaker 3: Never thought of it like that before. But I think

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Speaker 3: you're I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh. I've got a small gripe that was corrected. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is not a huge story, but I just we

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Speaker 2: had the it starts with me dropped from Tom Breethy,

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Speaker 2: and it made me think of So the NFL has

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Speaker 2: relaxed the quote unquote Brady rules. Okay, so he's the

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Speaker 2: minority owner with the Raiders, right, he's a minority owner,

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Speaker 2: and so he can now attend production meetings for his

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Speaker 2: TV role. That is something that has been relaxed because

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Speaker 2: that was a that was a I don't know. That

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Speaker 2: was a no no. When Brady became a minority owner,

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Speaker 2: the NFL is like, Okay, other NFL owners, you're not

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Speaker 2: gonna have this Brady guy in these TV meetings, all right.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna be able to get inside information left

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Speaker 2: and right. They've relaxed that as they should, like, they're

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Speaker 2: not gonna unveil some deep, deep dark secrets about these

720
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Speaker 2: like these, the other teams know that he's a minority owner.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna share anything that puts them in harm's way.

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Speaker 2: These are TV meetings. They aren't diving crazy deep. He's

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Speaker 2: not gonna know I don't know. He's gonna meet with mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna know all the checks, all the audibles, all

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna work like this is the dumbest thing

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Speaker 2: from the go. I'm glad that they've relaxed this.

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Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent correct on how dumb this was

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Speaker 3: to start with. This is like, this is so ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Those production meetings you just learned about the teams was

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: by the way he learned about anyways, he would learned

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Speaker 3: from from his partner, or he would just tell him

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Speaker 3: what happened in the meetings, the idea that he couldn't

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Speaker 3: be in the meetings for some reason because he's getting

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Speaker 3: an unfair advantage. To me, like, let's be real, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's be real about what's happening in these meetings. Also,

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Speaker 3: minority owner, like he yeah, they claim he's part of fregency.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't know, probably maybe not. Like how

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Speaker 3: much is he actually doing day to day? Wait? Wait,

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Speaker 3: hit the Raiders?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a ton.

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Speaker 3: So it never made sense to me, never made sense

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Speaker 3: why this was a thing. You know, is it because

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Speaker 3: you you just want to be hard on Brady or

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Speaker 3: want to be I don't understand the point of any

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Speaker 3: of this. It made no sense in this specific instance,

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Speaker 3: and I'm really really glad they got rid of it

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Speaker 3: because it was.

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Speaker 2: Stupid me too. This was remember leading up to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Brady had to sit down interview with Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: People made a big deal out of that at the time.

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Speaker 2: They're like, Oh, what's up with this. He's a minority owner.

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Speaker 2: What is Mahomes gonna say in an interview?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Where Brady's gonna go back to the Raiders and be like,

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Speaker 2: oh the information I got, man, we are just let

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Speaker 2: me share this with you. We are in a much

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Speaker 2: better position now after this sit down interview talking about

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with Mahomes. This was so dumb. I'm

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Speaker 2: just glad that it's no longer continuing to be dumb

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Speaker 2: and they've relaxed it. It's just it's silly.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where like you think about

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: it and you're like, in the end, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of it's kind of dumb. We did that.

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Speaker 3: You're like, this is kind of stupid. Ye, why do

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Speaker 3: we have this is a rule? Once you realize that

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Speaker 3: it probably you feel a little better about it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. By the way, major shout out to Lee Corso.

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Speaker 2: He had his final appearance on college game day. How

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Speaker 2: about this, jeff you'd love this as a sports better

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Speaker 2: six and oh on his picks. Yeah, so the odds

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00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: if you parlayed everything about eighty seven to one. He

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Speaker 2: had a couple of He had Florida State winning outright

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Speaker 2: over Alabama. They were a two touchdown dog. He had

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Speaker 2: LSU beating Clemson on the road. He had Miami winning

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Speaker 2: last night as you did too, Jeffy against my Irish

776
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: ye had all those like these aren't just the typical

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Speaker 2: college game day. I'm gonna take the three touchdown favorite

778
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Speaker 2: to win outright, Like these were some legit picks, by course,

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00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: so you get an eighty seven to one parlay to

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Speaker 2: cash if you go six and oh with his that's outstanding.

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Speaker 2: So rode off into the sunset and style there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. I had Miami last night to finish

783
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: out the the leg the last of my picks for

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Speaker 3: the weekend. Look courso, man, no one will ever be

785
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: like him again. What he has done for this sport

786
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Speaker 3: is maybe a measurable right like he has done such

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Speaker 3: and given such a positive you know, uh, love to

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Speaker 3: the sport, a light to the sport. Everyone who talks

789
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: about him talks about him the same way, right, like

790
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: such reverence and and that's what I love to be

791
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: talked about. One day from people that I worked with

792
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: or spent a lot of time with. And uh, it

793
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: was great minus a million. He put on that brutus

794
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: hat to end the day and he did that's right, yeah,

795
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Speaker 3: good good for him, and and it with a bang. Yeah,

796
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: it's it's time for him to be done, you know. Yeah,

797
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: all things come to at some point. And uh, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was even cool that Fox.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're that was awesome.

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Speaker 3: They cut into their program and showed to show Courso

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Speaker 3: make the pick at the.

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Speaker 2: End, and that was the thing. The report was, it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be ESPN's feed, it's just gonna be the

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Speaker 2: jumbo tron that they're gonna show it. No, it was

805
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: ESPN's feed. Man, it was exactly. I thought that was awesome.

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00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: That was a really good tribute. Yeah, and you're right

807
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: by the way, he's kind of like Charles Barkley is

808
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: irreplaceable with the NBA coverage, you know, used to be

809
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: with TNT. They'll be on ESPN now, But the same

810
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: sort of vibe. The Corso was just such a great fit.

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Speaker 2: There's not gonna be another Corso someone that would do

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Speaker 2: the same thing with the head gear. You're like, bro,

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Speaker 2: that's the Courso. You can't do that, Like that's already

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Speaker 2: been taken, you know. Tremendous job and just made it fun.

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Speaker 2: Awesome job by him coming up next Super Bowl odds

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Speaker 2: with a major twist