1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Hour number three. Just FYI, we already heard from Tulsei 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Gabbard in the first hour of the program. She was great. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go check it out on the podcast. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: In the third hour, we're going to talk with you 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: here in about thirty minutes with Babak Ramaswami, who is 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: certainly actively campaigning on behalf of Donald Trump, and a 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a preview. Donald Trump has touched down 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: in Walkeshaw, Wisconsin. He is doing a big rally. In 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: about an hour or so, he will be speaking, and 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: the Trump team has shared some of his remarks with 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: us and said we can discuss what he is going 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: to be discussing. And so I'll read a paragraph that 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Trump is going to deliver here in a little bit 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: that I think is a very winning argument, and he 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: says that Bidenomics is a flat out failure and that 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: on day one of his new administration, We're going to 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: throw out Bidenomics and reinstate Magonomics. Upon taking office, I'll 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: impose an immediate moratorium on all new spending grants and 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: giveaways under Biden's mammoth socialist bills like the so called 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act. That's a little bit of a preview 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: for those of us, those of you in Wisconsin who 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: are going to be hearing from Trump in a little 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: bit Wednesday. No trial in session, and they are trying 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: to get rolling with all of these visits that they 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: can stack together in these locations. We talked earlier, right 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: as we finished the hour, about the fact that the 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: protests are not going away. Protesters are already back. And 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: I do think there are Democrats, reasonable Democrats that are 31 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: super fed up about what's going on. And I want 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: to give him credit. Eric Adams has not been a 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: fabulous mayor for New York City so far. I think 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: he's not as bad as de Blasio. You can answer that. 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to be as bad 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: as Bill de Blasio. 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: Adams's shortcomings are from a lack of ability to run 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: the bureaucracy, but they're not out of malice. For the 39 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: most part. Bill de Blasio was like, Oh, the city 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: is great and functions well and everyone wants to be 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: here and everything is actually going really well. Let's tear 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: this down. Let's bring a little socialism, let's bring some 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: Marxist flair to this place. 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: So he was actively a destructor of New York. The 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: NYPD shared a video on social which we have shared 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: and you can check it out at Clayanbuck dot com 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: of them raising an American flag at the City University 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: or City College of New York, where they had raised 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: a Palestinian flag. This also happened at the University of 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: North Carolina Chapel Hill, and you may have seen the 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: viral photo or viral video of a bunch of unc 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: frat guys coming together to hold the United States flag 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: up to keep it from being on the ground. That 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: is an iconic photo. Already. Props to those young men. 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: But Eric Adams seems I don't think he's acting here, 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: genuinely disgusted by what he is seeing at Columbia University, 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: and I would imagine, as we talked about Buck, also 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: pretty disgusted that whenever they arrest these guys, they immediately 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: get to come right back on the streets and there 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: are no consequences. But listen to this. We already said 61 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: that he has said that these are outside agitators. He 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: also said, and this is true, and this is why 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm more troubled. I'm not as troubled by stupid young people, 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: because stupid young people can grow up to be reasonable adults. 65 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: The problem here is there are a lot of professors 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: encouraging this behavior and telling these kids you need to 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: be protesting like this, which led Eric Adams to say, 68 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: there's a real movement to radicalize young people. Play cut fourteen. 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: There is a movement to radicalize young people, and I'm 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: not going to wait until it's done and all of 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: a sudden acknowledge the existence of it. This is a 72 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: global problem that young people are being influenced by those 73 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: who are professionals at radicalizing our children, and I'm not 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: going to allow that to happen as the mayor of 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: the City of New York. 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: All right, that's cut one. I want to play the 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: next one for you too. Buck. Here is Eric Adams, 78 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: in particular, speaking to a university allowing the Palestinian flag 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: to be flying on campus as opposed to the United 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: States flag. Cut fifteen. 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: Another significant part of the video was at the end, 82 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: that's how flag, folks, It's We'll take over our buildings 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: and put another flag up. That may be fine to 84 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: other people, but it's not to me. My uncle died 85 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: defending this country, and these men and women put their 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: lives on the line, and it's suspicable that schools will 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: allow another country flag to fly in our country. So 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: blame me for being proud to be an American, and 89 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: I think the Commission of Daughtry for putting that flag 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: back up. We're not surrendering our way of life to anyone. 91 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: As I said, he's not an evil Marxist. Deblasio is 92 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: an evil Marxist. Yeah, Adams is just he's a Democrat, 93 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: and he has some limitations, I think as a as 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: a leader of a very complicated bureaucracy and a very 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: politically challenging place, New York City. 96 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: But I do think that. 97 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: I do think that overall, on the most basic issues, 98 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: he still lives in reality. I think that he still 99 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: supports the NYPD. 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: But he touched on THO. 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: It's something we haven't talked about today, and it's about 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: the other flag and other country's flag. Do you know 103 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: that at Columbia. I've seen different numbers, but I think 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: it's almost half of the students are on foreign student visas. 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: There's a huge number of these students at these Ivy 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 2: League schools that are foreigners, and I gotta say, why 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: is that? Okay, Look, what are we doing here as 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: a country. Don't these universities have a patriotic duty to 109 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: Dare I say, educate Americans first? 110 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: You know they talk about. 111 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: All the oh it's so unfair, and look at all 112 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: the you know, we have the disparate impact and not 113 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: a representation of minority groups. Why are you taking wealthy 114 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: foreign students from all over the world at the expense 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: of Americans whose parents and families are contributing here and 116 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: part of our American family. I think this is a 117 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: big deal, and it's been a big deal for a while, 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: but I think people are recognizing. Hold on a second. 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: These schools are full of foreigners who are now protesting 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: on our campuses to tell us what our leadership should 121 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: be doing with regard to Israel and a bunch of 122 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: savage terrorists in Hamas get the. 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Hell out of our country. 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: What are you doing here? 125 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: I think is a fantastic question. My suspicion is this 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: is economic that the foreign students probably pay full to it. 127 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: They all pay full, so they do not get money absolutely, 128 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: so their their argument will probably be I would think 129 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: that these foreign students subsidize their ability to provide a 130 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: lower cost education for American students. I think that would 131 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: probably be their argument. But it ties in with to me, 132 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: the fundamental question. 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, before you move past that, just but I mean, 134 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: do you see what I mean about how okay? I 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: understand there's a utilitarian economic garden clay these universities. I mean, 136 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: don't just think of it as Columbia. Think of it 137 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: as MIT and cal Tech. And they're training people at 138 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: the highest levels in technology, in artificial intelligence, in telecommunications, 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: higher level math, theoretical physics, you name it, nuclear physics. 140 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: And you know that the FBI is supposed to be 141 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: trust me, they you know, they're not doing a very 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: good job of knowing what's going on where and who's 143 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: learning what. Why should these schools not have I mean, 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: this should be looked at much more so, much more closely. 145 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to go back and help 146 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: their country compete against US, I think if you're arrested 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: as a foreign student protesting and violating the law in America, 148 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: you should immediately get sent back to your country. I mean, 149 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: according to the Center for Immigration Studies in twenty twenty two, Clay, 150 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: fifty five percent of Columbia University students were foreigners, non Americans. 151 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: That's outrageous. Well, what, we have. 152 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: No obligation to be educating the rest, you know, sure 153 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: if we have, you know, some super genius that we 154 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: want to bring here because we think, you know, I understand. 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying no foreign students should be allowed. Fifty 156 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: five percent is too high. Okay, that's too much. And 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: I think what this ties in with what per percentage 158 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: of Democrats would be willing to say America is a 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: great country and our flag should proudly fly. That's the 160 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: scary part to me and the young. 161 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: I give credit to Eric Adams for saying it in 162 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: that clip that his uncle died for this country and 163 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: he thinks it's an outrage that any other flag should 164 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: be flying over an American campus. I agree with him. 165 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I think the scary thing is what you're really seeing 166 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: is that Americans are that America is not beloved by 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: huge parts of the Democrat Party. Remember the staff that 168 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: came out. What would happen when the Ukraine? Everybody's out 169 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: there in the Democrat Party, like, we've got to defend Ukraine. 170 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: Let's give them sixty billion, Let's give them six hundred billion. 171 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: And they actually did a poll and said would you 172 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: defend America if it were invaded? And majorities of Democrats 173 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: said no. I mean, these are people who believe this 174 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: is the toxic nature of what they're being taught. They 175 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: are being taught that our country is evil, that its 176 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: foundation is unsupportable because men, white men are awful racist, 177 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and this ties in. I saw this shared by Frank 178 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: Lutz yesterday last night. I believe it was. We've talked 179 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: about this some on the show, but I think it's 180 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: worth illustrating. If you're over sixty five and you're listening 181 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: to us right now, you probably legitimately feel like you 182 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: live in a different country than the one you grew 183 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: up in, and it ain't a good thing. Here's a 184 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: stat for you, buck. If you're over sixty five, ninety 185 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: three percent of over sixty fives support Israel, seven percent 186 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: support Hamas ninety three to seven. If you're sixty five plus. 187 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: How about if you're eighteen to twenty four. This is 188 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: Frank Lutz, This is from the Hill. Fifty seven percent 189 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: support Israel, forty three percent supports Hamas. It's basically fifty 190 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: to fifty. If you are eighteen to twenty four in 191 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: this country, who's on the side of good and who's 192 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: on the side of evil? How does that happen in 193 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the space of two generations, We've gone from sixty five 194 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: plus y'all out there listening to me, you understand good 195 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: and evil and the right to defend yourself against terrorists. 196 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Eighteen to twenty four year olds, They're like, this is 197 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: a toss up issue for us, whether Israel or Hamas 198 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: is on the right side. That is what is scary 199 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: to me, because you would like to think those people 200 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: are going to grow up buck and they're going to 201 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: turn into Oh, I'm going to be able to see 202 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: good and evil when I said at the end of 203 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: last hour. Is what scares me. They actually think that 204 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: they are seeing good and evil and they're on the 205 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: wrong side. Those are the people who are scary people. 206 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: How are it peasible to have any to have any 207 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: framework of morality whatsoever, not even just to pick incorrectly, 208 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: but to think that Hamas is anything other than a 209 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: an evil organization. It's it's hard to it's hard to 210 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: wrap your mind around that. I think part of it 211 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: is the ignorance of They just don't know. They don't 212 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: know what was going on in the Second Intifada. They 213 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: don't know about the suicide bombing campaigns. They don't know 214 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: about Hamas's celebration of death. They don't know about its 215 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: execution of homosexuals. They don't know about its torture and 216 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: murder of political dissonance from within its own ranks. Like 217 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: I think they never mind the virtual enslavement of women. 218 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: I think they just don't know, and they're very stupid. 219 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: But it's still troubling. I mean, they're they're the useful 220 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: idiots of this movement, unfortunately. 221 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: And you can be troubled by the idiocy of the 222 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: young people. That's why the scare. They don't know good 223 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: and evil. You would hope that they could be taught. 224 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: The problem is the instructors at the universities they attend 225 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: are telling them what they are doing is just they're 226 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: standing and linking arms to try to keep the police 227 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: from stopping them. That is, they're they're being taught this 228 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: that I will tell you. I I when I hear 229 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: that someone is a. 230 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Professor at a lot of these places in a non 231 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: hard science, and you don't know math, physics. I mean, 232 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: there still are people who are normal who teach those things. 233 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: But when you hear that someone teaches like Middle East 234 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: studies somewhere, I just almost always assume to myself this 235 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: person is an unimpressive buffoon who is basically a communist, 236 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: because that is how present it is at these colleges 237 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: and universities. Now it's ninety percent, it's ninety five percent. 238 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: You know, there are exceptions, but they're so rare that 239 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: you tend to know about them. And that's what's going 240 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: on there. So we'll take some more of your calls 241 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: on this, for sure. 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Candy rites in I would love to see 288 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: Tulsi in a VP debate with Kamala. 289 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. 290 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I don't know if Tulsi would be 291 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: a great debater. I couldn't say that that. I think 292 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: she'd be competent, but I don't think that that's necessarily her. 293 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I thought she was. I thought she was pretty good 294 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: in the Democrat debate. She ran for president. What in uh? 295 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I can't even remember now twenty if everything runs together, 296 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: one of the kids, Yeah, I think so. It wasn't sixteen, 297 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: it was twenty, everything runs together. And I thought she 298 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: savaged Kamala pretty good in a multi candidate debate. If 299 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: you remember that, she went after Kamala Harris pretty aggressively. 300 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: And like I remember it now, Yeah, was it on 301 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: the Kamala was too tough on criminals things. That's kind 302 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: of funny in retrospect, Remember that was the thing for 303 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: a while. 304 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, it was Kamala has tried to claim now and 305 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: she's still doing it. No one should ever be in 306 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: jail for smoking weed, and then like she put tons 307 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: of people in jail for smoking weed, which is very funny. 308 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: I think it was just that Kamala Harris is a 309 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: fundamentally dishonest person. Maybe we could grab that clip, because 310 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: what I remember is watching that live and thinking, oh, 311 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: my goodness, Tulsi Gabbert just pulled out the sword and 312 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: just cut Kamala, just like I vaguely sliced that off 313 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: my memory. I vaguely remember that. 314 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: Joe writes in I have favorite Tulsi for Trump's VP 315 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: for a long time, intelligence centered and would help keep 316 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: the Deep State from putting the US in perpetual wars. 317 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: As a man, albeit an old man, she has a 318 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: beautiful voice I could listen to all day. Well, Joe, 319 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: from Tulsi to you, Aloha. 320 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: Liberty Safe. 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The vig Ramaswami joins us, Now, 337 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: I know you've been all over the country helping out 338 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but I just want to start with this. 339 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: You're in the neighborhood of Buck and myself's ages. You've 340 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: been on a lot of these college campuses, I'm sure 341 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: on your presidential campaign, but also you were on them 342 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: as a student not very long ago. Would you have 343 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: believed that we would ever be in a situation where 344 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: a place like the UCLA would be banning Jewish students 345 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: from being able to walk through the campus, that they 346 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: would be pulling down the United States flag and replacing 347 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: it with the flag of Palestine all over the country. 348 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: Could you have foreseen this? The vake. 349 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: So not with great pleasure. No, but you could see 350 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 5: the direction this was going for a very long time. 351 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to claim some sort of level 352 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: of foresight from before, but even a few years ago, 353 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 5: when I wrote my book Woke Ink, before people really 354 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: knew what the word woke was. 355 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: That's where this road ends. 356 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 5: And I think what many people may misunderstand even about 357 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 5: the current situation is describing it as anti Semitic, while understandable, 358 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: misses the point. 359 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: Actually, what you're. 360 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 5: Really seeing amongst young people, and you've been seeing this 361 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 5: for the last decade or more, is a deep hunger 362 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: for purpose. They are starved for a cause, They are lost. 363 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 5: And when you don't believe in the American flag, you 364 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 5: start pledging allegiance to a different flag instead. It could 365 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 5: be the transgender flag, it could be the Palestinian flag, 366 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: it could be, in some cases, even weirdly, the Ukraine flag. 367 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: And I think that that's a separate debate to be had. 368 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: But we have this innate hunger for purpose, to be 369 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: part of something bigger than ourselves. 370 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: And when you want to be part of something bigger. 371 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: Than yourself and you no longer believe in God, you 372 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: no longer believe in your country, you no longer identify 373 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: as a member of a family or see yourself as 374 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 5: an individual. You start believing in new kinds of secular 375 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: cults instead. And this is just the latest one, And 376 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 5: so I think that's really what's happening. 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: It's not specific to this issue. Most students who are protesting. 378 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 5: On behalf of Palestine have no idea what the heck 379 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 5: they're actually even protesting for. You have students on campuses 380 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: chanting infittata, which they don't realize is actually a complete 381 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: inversion of the word they're trying to say, which is intofada, 382 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: their word for uprising. They don't even know what they're chanting. 383 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: You look at some of those video recordings, that's what 384 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 5: you hear. That's the essence of what's going on is 385 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 5: these people are lost, and I think we got to 386 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: see that before we actually find an actual solution, rather 387 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: than just playing whack a mole, which is what I 388 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: think many in the conservative movement frankly, have been trying 389 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: to do as response. 390 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Vivek, it's buck. 391 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: You know all these campuses, we're seeing a level of 392 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: madness that is surprising to some, but I think for 393 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: those of us who've been paying attention. This is just 394 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: the latest iteration of it. This is the latest spasm, 395 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: if you will, of their lunacy. And I'm reminded a 396 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 2: little bit of the movie Aliens. Are you an Aliens fan? 397 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember? I think it just had its like 398 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: anniversary recently it was released forty feth anniversary. I think 399 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: I saw it was in theaters. Yeah, that was. 400 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: A great that It was a great, great movie, James 401 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: Cameron movie back in the day. But remember when they 402 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: say we have to nuke the site from orbit. It's 403 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: the only way to be sure. No one's suggesting we 404 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: knew these campuses, But I just want to know, is 405 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: there a way to fix these things? 406 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Or do we just need to. 407 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Do we just need to separate? Do do people that 408 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: have a recognition of how toxic this has become realized 409 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: that there's no fixing Columbia University as it currently stands. 410 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: How do you see that? 411 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 5: Well, look, I think that actually those two things go together. 412 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 5: Is building alternative institutions is a necessary next step, and 413 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: some of. 414 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: Those institutions are being built. 415 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: When you think about the private sector, corporate America, the 416 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: financial services sector, when you think about academic institutions and 417 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 5: universities that competition does one thing. It provides an alternative 418 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 5: where people are able to go the likes of University Austin, Texas, 419 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: Ralston College, Hillsdale. Think about even places like Ashland University 420 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: here in Ohio, where I spoke recently really smart students, 421 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: by the way, completely not the goal to be large, 422 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: national name brand institutions, but just pursue excellence in local contexts. 423 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: I think as those competitors start to draw great students 424 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 5: away from the esteemed institutions of yesterday, the Columbias, I 425 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 5: mean even I'm ashamed of the alma maters and the 426 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: behaviors I've seen in places like Harvard and Yale. That 427 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: is going to have an effect not just on providing 428 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: additional choices for students, but I think that's going to 429 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 5: change the behaviors of those existing institutions as well. So 430 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: it's the absence of competition that actually breeds this type 431 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 5: of discontent, and so I do think creating new institutions 432 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 5: is an answer. So it's not just separation for the 433 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 5: sake of separation, the separation for the sake of actually 434 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: bringing competition in a marketplace of ideas where it has 435 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: been lacking. I think part of that solution, though, is 436 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 5: we have to offer an alternative vision, especially to that 437 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 5: next generation. And this is where the conservative movement has 438 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: fallen short. We will sit here complaining about one of 439 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: those religions at a time, right, wokeism, transgenderism, climatism, Covidism, 440 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 5: you could have your favoriteism. Anti Semitism now fits that list. 441 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: I think that each of those religions, those cults are 442 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 5: really just symptoms of that deeper void. And I think 443 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 5: we have to as a movement go back to being 444 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: firm about what we actually stand for, right the individual, family, nation, 445 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 5: and God, beat race, gender, sexuality and climate. If we 446 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: have the courage to actually stand for something. And so 447 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: some of this is on the other side, but some 448 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 5: of this is our own problem too, is we've grown 449 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 5: lazy as a movement just criticizing the radical Biden agenda 450 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: or whatever it is that we're pontificating about without actually 451 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: offering an alternative vision of what it means to be 452 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 5: an American, what it means to be an individual, what. 453 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 4: It means to be sovereign. I think sovereignty itself. 454 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 5: Sovereignty at the level of the individual and the family 455 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: and the nation and being a nation under God. Those 456 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 5: are foreign concepts to the conservative movement of today. It's 457 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: not exactly what you're Republican politicians or even commentators talking 458 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: about today, as opposed to using whatever the latest trope 459 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: was on social media to criticize some. 460 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: Flub of Biden. 461 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: That's lazy and it's falling short of what we really 462 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: need to be doing if we want to fill that 463 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: vacuum of purpose that accounts for a lot of the 464 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 5: lunacy that we're seeing. 465 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: Levig, you are like Buck and myself. You've been very fortunate. 466 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: You're building a family. Now you are obviously trying to 467 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: spread what I would hope is an antidote to this 468 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: issue with a lack of purpose that exists across much 469 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: of American youth. What's the best way for you to 470 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: do that? In your mind? As we gear up for 471 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: the six month basically starting block here of the election 472 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: in November, do you think VP is that play? Have 473 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: you talked to Trump about that? Do you think that 474 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: you're in the mix for that? Are there other cabinet 475 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: positions that to you make sense. I know you're going 476 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: to be working hard to get Trump elected no matter what. 477 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: But on an individual basis, what's the most effective version? 478 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: You think of yourself? Where should you go? Where should 479 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: you be? 480 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: So look, I think every person's got to look themselves 481 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: in the mirror and say, here are my God given gifts. 482 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: How am I going to use those to maximize impact 483 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: on saving our country at a moment where let's be honest, 484 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 5: if we don't get this right in the next seven years, 485 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: it's how it long taw long it took to win 486 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: the American Revolution. I don't think we have a country left, 487 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: and I do think we're in one of those seventeen 488 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: seventy six moments today, and so Donald Trump is now 489 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: the George Washington figure of winning that modern American Revolution. 490 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 5: Took all of our founding fathers, many of them to 491 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: each wear their own different hats, to really set this 492 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 5: nation into motion. A couple things I look at, what 493 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: are the things we need to accomplish that we can 494 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: accomplish through executive power if we're successful. 495 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 4: Two mass deportations. 496 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: One is the mass deportations of millions of illegals in 497 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: this country who shouldn't be here, sealed the border along 498 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: with it, and birthright citizenship and once and for all 499 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: fix that immigration issue in our country. 500 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 4: And the second is the massive. 501 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: Deportation of about three million federal bureaucrats out of Washington, 502 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: DC that should have never been there in the first place, 503 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 5: cleaning up that fourth branch, that deep state that I 504 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: think is the source of the rot and the corruption 505 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: that infests every layer of government and even our culture. 506 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 5: So those are two of the things I've been most 507 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 5: passionate about. 508 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: In my own presidential campaign. 509 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: And if I'm able to play a role in doing 510 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: one or both or the other of those things, or 511 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: both of them, you know, I think I'm going to 512 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 5: do everything I can to play my role to restore 513 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: the country. But in terms of what position different people occupy, 514 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 5: that decision belongs to President Trump. It's the beauty of 515 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 5: actually having a chief executive who's been an executive, deserves 516 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: to actually staff the administration and the way he runs 517 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: the country with the people who he believes are best 518 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 5: in each position. He I've had some great conversations, and 519 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: I'll be honored to play some hopefully significant role in 520 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 5: reviving this country. 521 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: Just don't forget your friends. When your Treasury secretary or 522 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: a catch of the country. 523 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 4: Okay, do you. 524 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: Think you're still in the running. Do you think you're 525 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: still in the running for VP, or do you think 526 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: someone else is going to be in that role? And 527 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: maybe there's. 528 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: Something going to I'm not going to out of respect 529 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 5: to my conversations with President Trump and for the decisions 530 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: he needs to make, I'm not going to play the 531 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: game of you know, musical chairs of who are speculation. 532 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: What I will say is I've told him this is 533 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: I'm excited to serve in whatever capacity maximize the impact 534 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: for the country. We've had a great relationship, and I 535 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of people, by the way, in 536 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 5: our bench that can play a lot of important roles, 537 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 5: each of which we're going to need to save the country. 538 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 5: And so whether that's people from the White House positions 539 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 5: to the VP to cabinet level positions, all of them 540 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 5: are important and I'm here to play my part. 541 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 4: And so I just think I'm optimist important to be successful. 542 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: We can't count our chickens before they hatch. 543 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: I want to say a word about this too, is 544 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 5: this discussion presumed that there's some sort of victory that 545 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: we can take for granted. In November remember, just a 546 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 5: couple of years ago, we had this red wave that 547 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: was supposed to come. That red wave never came. And 548 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: I think that we're actually potentially on track to being 549 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: complacent and seeing that same risk play out unless we 550 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 5: actually step up and do things differently this time around, 551 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 5: both in terms of articulating our all turn a vision 552 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: and in terms of the legwork of execution. Right, A 553 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: vision without execution is a hallucination. That's what Einstein, That's 554 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 5: what Thomas Edison said, and I think it's true every 555 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: bit today in politics, as it is in any other realm. 556 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: You don't like early voting too bad, got to play 557 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: by the rules to win in order to change the 558 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 5: rules to be what you want them to be. And 559 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 5: so you know, I think that it is important to 560 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: have transition plans and what comes afterwards, and I think 561 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: President Trump's being very thoughtful about that, and I'm hopeful 562 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: to play an important role in saving this country. But 563 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: we're only going to get there if we actually succeed 564 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: by decisive margins. And let's be honest, a fifty point 565 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: one margin doesn't work this time around. I think that, 566 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: let's be very frank, a landslide minus some Shenanigans is 567 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 5: still a decisive victory, and that's what we're going to 568 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 5: need at a moment where we're skating on thin ice, 569 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 5: where we have decisive majorities, and not just the Senate 570 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 5: but also the House, to combine that with control of 571 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: the White House. That's what it's going to take to 572 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: politically revive this country. And so let's not get ahead 573 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 5: of ourselves as well to assume that there's some outcome 574 00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 5: we're planning for. 575 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: Vivike Ramaswami Viveke, come back, talk to us again soon. 576 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be an important six months or so here. 577 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. 578 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 5: Appreciate it, guys, and keep up the good work of 579 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: highlighting things that other people aren't talking about. I like 580 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 5: that you guys do it and we need more of that. 581 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: Thankk you ch Man. 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Also, that the 618 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 2: happy moment, I think Clay for many people and all 619 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: this madness that has been going on is. 620 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: The Frat Bros. 621 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 2: Fraternity brothers who refused at UNC Chapel Hill to let 622 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: the American flag fall into the dirt, and they held 623 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: it up and they hoisted it up. And there are 624 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: some very amusing memes about this going around as well, 625 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: but there are still it's worth noting there are still 626 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: college students out there who some of them listen to 627 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: this show, who very much are patriots and have respect 628 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: and have wisdom and love the country. And they're the 629 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: only reason I think that a lot of it feel 630 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: like the future might be okay. And you know, sometimes 631 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: you got to wear some pastel shorts and flip flops 632 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: to stay the country. 633 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to tell you. I think 634 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: we have audio. Maybe we should have sent the table 635 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more. For those of you who don't 636 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: know how crazy this has gotten. They raised the Palestinian 637 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: flag on the main quad at the University of North 638 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: Carolina Chapel Hill. As crazy as you might think that 639 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: it happened in New York City, or as crazy as 640 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: you might think that it happened in La I'm here 641 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: to tell you the North Carolina tar Heels did not 642 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: end their alums did not expect for a Palestinian flag 643 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: to be rising. This is a battleground state. This is 644 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: a state that Trump won narrowly in twenty twenty twenty, 645 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: and that will be close in twenty twenty four. And 646 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I believe we have a cut of these kids who 647 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: saw what was happening, saw the American flag draped on 648 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: the ground, and went over and refused to let it 649 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: be on the ground. And here is cut three as 650 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: that was happening, So you're getting it there. These kids 651 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: buck were being pelted by anti Israel protesters with water, 652 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: with screaming, yelling, derisive commentary, and they stepped into the 653 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: breach there and they lifted that flag. Now there is 654 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: a GoFundMe that is out there right now. I retweeted it. 655 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: If you heard that and you think to yourself, that 656 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: sounds kind of fun. They're raising money to throw the 657 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: frat guys a big party at UNC Chapel Hill. And 658 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: if I were advised the Trump campaign, I would be like, 659 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: you should pick up the cost of this party. And 660 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: I think they had to cancel an event in was 661 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: it Raleigh cause of weather? If I'm not mistaken, Somewhere 662 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: in North Carolina they had a big event scheduled. If 663 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: I were Trump, I'd go to that North Carolina and 664 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: I would bring those kids on the stage as a 665 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: part of that rally. In North Carolina. 666 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 6: We're here today celebrating our beautiful, wonderful fraternity brothers. That 667 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 6: flag was going to hit the dart not with the 668 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 6: fraternity brothers gathered together, probably the best fraternities ever right here, 669 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 6: it would be amazing. 670 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: How crazy is it that if you are willing to 671 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: hold the American flag from falling on the ground, and 672 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: if you like the national anthem, I feel like there's 673 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: a ninety nine percent chance that you're voting for Trump. 674 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: Just think about, I mean, where we are as a country. 675 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have said that in two 676 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. I would whatever side of an equation 677 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to be on. I don't think you could 678 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: have said that a decade ago in this country that 679 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: if you like the American flag, or heck, you even 680 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: have the American flag flying outside of your home, you 681 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: almost certainly are voting for Donald Trump in six months. 682 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: I think that people on the right take pride in 683 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: just being Americans, and I think that the left in 684 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: this country takes pride in the belief that they are 685 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 2: better than America. 686 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: It's a very different thing. It's very well said. I 687 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's exactly right. And by the way, 688 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: you can tie that in. It's why they also won't 689 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: admit that they were wrong on everything having to do 690 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: with COVID, because it's not just that they were wrong, 691 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: it's that the people they think are dumb and stupid 692 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: and red state rights, yeah, actually were right on them. 693 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: That's things even more for them. 694 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, that the people that they try 695 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: to look down on somehow have more wisdom, more foresight, 696 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: more accuracy. 697 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 5: Hmm. 698 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.