1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Your holster is way more important than you think it is. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It's just way more important than you think it is. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: What look, and I get that. The holsters not the 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: sexy part of carrying firearms. All right, You want to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about your weapon and your ammunition. You want to 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: talk about your safety training. You want to talk about 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: how you did at the range. Oh, look at my groups. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: I was doing these failure drills today, and all that 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: stuff is really important. I mean, really really important. I'm 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: not discounting that, but I've known so many people who 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: do all those things. They take all the necessary steps, 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: and then they carry with a holster they bought from 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a big box hunting store that was made a thousand 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: at a time. Please don't put your life in one 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: of those holsters. You need to trust Northwest Retention Systems 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: because it's all custom made gear. It's the only thing 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I carry around NW Retention dot Com. That's NW Retention 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: dot Com used to promo co Jesse gets you ten 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: percent off. This is a Jesse Kelly show. Well, let 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: me ask you a difficult question to answer. It won't 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: sound difficult at first, but it's about to get more 22 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: and more difficult. Let me ask you something in the 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: fictional comic book superhero world. Is the Punisher a good 24 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: guy or a bad guy? Now? I need you to 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: because undoubtedly, almost undoubtedly, you have a strong feeling on 26 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: that one way or the other. You probably, judging by 27 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: the people who most likely listen to my show, you're 28 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: probably a Punisher fan. Yeah, I love the Punisher. I mean, 29 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: for you comic book show movie fans. I'll tell you 30 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: that Punisher show they did on Netflix was outstanding, outstanding, 31 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: But be that as it man for you non comic 32 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: book fans or people unaware of what I'm talking about. 33 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: This is the deal with the Punisher and the whole 34 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: comic book thing that's turned into movies and shows or whatnot. 35 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: The Punisher is not a man with superpowers, some former 36 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: military guy. You know. They always change the backstory, but 37 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: it's always former marine, former babycal former this whatever. Always 38 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: some guy like that gets his wife and kids or kid, 39 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I forget. I think they may change the story each time, 40 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: but it's wife and children at least one. They get 41 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: murdered by bad guys and the bad guy changes. The 42 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: sources of the bad guy change. But now you have 43 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: this highly trained human being who's just has this horrible 44 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: personal loss and that feeling that you have inside of 45 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: you whenever you think about something like that happening to 46 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: your family or god forbid, maybe it has. But whenever 47 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you think about that, that feeling you get of I'll 48 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: kill everybody. I'll hunt them all down and murder them all. 49 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: He's the one, which is part of what made it 50 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: such a great character. He's the one who actually did it. 51 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: That's what made those comic books. I think I might 52 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: not have even been allowed to read them when I 53 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: was little and was still why it's a kid. I 54 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: loved him. But the Punisher ones are dark, darker than 55 00:03:52,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: even Batman because Punisher does not show up to bad 56 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: guy's house and punch him out and leave him tied 57 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: up in front of the Sheriff's department. Punisher shows up, 58 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: walks in the room of a very bad human being, 59 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: and unloads a shotgun into his chest. Now, let me 60 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: ask you again, is the Punisher a good guy or 61 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: a bad guy? Is what he just did to that 62 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: bad guy? Do you consider it murder? Do you consider 63 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: it revenge? Do you consider it justice? And here's the 64 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: ultimate kicker of a question. Do you think there's a 65 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: difference between those things. What is, in your opinion, the 66 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: difference between revenge and justice? Anyone gets a little murky, 67 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm the punisher. I wouldn't kill that guy because he 68 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: was a murderer. Okay, that sounds like revenge, right, It's revenge. 69 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I am the State of Pennsylvania. We arrested that guy, 70 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: put him on trial, then laid him down into bed, 71 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: hooked the needle into his arm, and killed him. That 72 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: was justice. What's the difference? Is there a difference? Eighteen 73 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: sixty three in the Montana territory, they find a boy 74 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: who's been shot. Now, I did quite a bit of 75 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: reading on all these things we're going to talk about today, 76 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: and a couple podcasts. One of them who did this 77 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: story really well. I have to give a special shout 78 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: out to him, was a High Crimes and Misdemeanors podcast. 79 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: He really did this well. But as I was digging 80 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: into these things today, digging into the territories, digging into 81 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: how all that worked, it was extremely fascinating. Here's what's happening. 82 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: Remember eighteen forties, eighteen fifties, eighteen sixties. People are going west. 83 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: They're going west for gold, for precious metals. This is 84 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Remember the name of the San Francisco forty nine ers, 85 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: they're named after the eighteen forty nine California gold rush 86 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: that's about that time, and other parts of the country, 87 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: even though it kind of wasn't part of the country 88 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: yet they start getting gold discoveries too. And what really 89 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: happens here when when they discover gold? Because you and 90 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: I like to imagine because undoubtedly you've heard of people 91 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: flocking west to find gold, pan for gold, and you 92 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: get this image in your mind of what it is 93 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and what it isn't Here's what it really was. You 94 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: knew the West. Remember we're talking untamed territory here. We're 95 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: talking many of these places are not official states at all, 96 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: like the one we're talking about today, and that's going 97 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: to be important. The Montana Territory. What is the Montana Territory. Well, 98 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I am somebody who's actually from Montana, so I will 99 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: simply tell you environment wise, Like right now, if you 100 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: go there, unbelievably beautiful, yourgious mountains, perfect perfect weather mid July, 101 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: a dry, eighty eighty five sunny, maybe an occasional rain. 102 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: You're walking through the wilderness, not a care in the world, 103 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: except at this point in time, you had a lot 104 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: of cares when it came to the Montana territory. Some 105 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: of those cares were Indians, bad Indian problem. Some of 106 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: those cares were outlaws. Because remember you are a territory 107 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: and you kind of have law enforcement, but you kind 108 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: of do not. And know how beautiful it is there 109 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: right about now, go up there in December. It's a 110 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: little different up there. It's wild. Montana even now to 111 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: this day feels wild. And that was the West. That 112 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: wasn't just Montana because there aren't many people. There's only 113 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: a million people in the whole state of Montana. It's 114 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the fourth fourth biggest state in the United States of America. 115 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: It's huge. But you'll get these gold discoveries. And what 116 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: happened was, remember things travel by telegram back then, and 117 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: people get newspapers back then. And you'll be in a 118 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: city or the what would be classified as suburbs of 119 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: a city back then, and you read in the headlines 120 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: gold discovered in Montana. Now, let me ask you something 121 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: like that existed today. Let's because it's hard for us 122 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: to understand we've tamed everything. Let's say there was an Island, 123 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: a big island off the coast of California. It's not 124 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: part of California. It's not a state. Technically, the United 125 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: States owns it. But there's no city there, there's no government. 126 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: There's woods and stuff. And you get word personally. You 127 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: read in the papers today, Oh my goodness, gold is discovered. There. 128 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Are you personally packing up your stuff, either flat out, 129 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: leaving your family maybe bringing them along. Are you going well, 130 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: I'll explain why you may or may not. Hang on. 131 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: It is time for you to get a home security system. 132 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: You have to stop putting this off. I'm not trying 133 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: to scare you, but look around you at the world 134 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: we live in now. It is getting more dangerous. There's 135 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: just no other way to put it. And if you 136 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: think all this craziness is going to stay inside of 137 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: these big cities forever, you've you've got another thing coming. 138 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: It's not. It doesn't work that way. Crime waves don't 139 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: work that way. It could easily come to your home. 140 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: You need simply safe now, and they couldn't possibly make 141 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: it any easier for you. Go to simply safe dot 142 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: com slash Jesse, pick out what you want, they send 143 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: it to you. You open it, you put the sensors out, 144 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: you plug them in, and you are protected, professionally monitored 145 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Simply 146 00:11:49,040 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: Safe dot Com slash Jesse Jesse Kelly returns. Next should 147 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: be noted before we continue on our story here, it 148 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: should be noted that it is my birthday today. Now. 149 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I want you all to know something about my birthday. 150 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: I am not going to make a big deal of it. 151 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: You're not even going to hear me mention it, because 152 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it's obnoxious when people talk about their birthday 153 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: all the time, as if it's something special. Yes, thirty 154 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: nine years ago today I was born and the world 155 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: is so blessed to have me. But but um, I'm 156 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: not gonna talk about it on the radio. I have 157 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: a national radio show. I'm not gonna talk about it. 158 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm never going to talk about it. I'm not gonna 159 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: bring up the fact that people should pour their well 160 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: wishes on me. I'm not gonna bring up the fact that, 161 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the world's a better place for me being here. 162 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let it go. I'm gonna be hung, humble, gracious, 163 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna act like other people matter, too. I'm gonnat 164 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: what Chris, Sorry, I don't dwell on things like my birthday. 165 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal. I think it's 166 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a day where well. I mean, 167 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat the things I want to eat. And 168 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: if people want to tell me how great I am, 169 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: that's fine. Fine. Now back to Montana, the Montana territory. 170 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: You find out there's gold on that island? Are you going? 171 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Here's the thing You're probably not. Why are you probably not? Well, 172 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: you're not leaving the wife and kids, You're not leaving 173 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: your husband for it, You're not leaving your job for it. 174 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Probably right, And if you are, what does that say 175 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: about the current situation you were in? And believe me 176 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: when I tell you, I'm not passing any judgment on you, 177 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: because I've been out of work before, but especially in 178 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: this economy, if you're flat broken busted right now, and 179 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: undoubtedly some of you are, maybe you are going. What 180 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm sa saying to you is, think about the people 181 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: in this situation, in such a situation that they feel 182 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: the need to go west to brave things out west. 183 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: And I cannot stress enough how much you're braving when 184 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: you were going to the Montana Territory for gold. You 185 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: are braving your scalp hanging in an Indian tp somewhere. 186 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: You are braving horrible wild animal attacks day. They had 187 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: a very difficult time killing grizzly bears back then, and 188 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: it was a big, big problem. You are braving weather 189 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: that kills people to this day, to this day, in Montana, 190 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I grew up there. Every single winter 191 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: there is somebody who will get a flat tire, skid 192 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: off the road and hunt some ice. Something will happen 193 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: where somebody will get stuck on the side of the 194 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: road in wintertime and they will die. With all the 195 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: modern technology today, it's that harsh, it's that vicious. Now 196 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: go ahead and rewind to an era where everything is 197 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: on horseback, and you don't think about that too much, 198 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: do you horseback? Let's say you're heading to the next 199 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: town over, which in a town like Montana. Now let 200 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: alone then, but then let's call it fifty miles. Let's 201 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: say it's the winter time. You do the right thing, 202 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: you pack right, you put on warm weather gear, and 203 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: you hop on your horse to ride fifty miles. Do 204 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: you know how many ways you can die along that trail. 205 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Do you know how many little ravines there are you 206 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: can hardly see in Montana? Now cover the ground in snow. 207 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Do you know how easy it would be to ride 208 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: you in your horse off the edge of a little cliff, 209 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: forget cliff? Do you know how many gigantic holes in 210 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: the ground you might not be able to see where 211 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: your horse falls breaks, the leg falls on top of 212 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: your leg, and now you lay there and freeze to death. 213 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to scare you off from going. I'm 214 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: trying to explain to you, because we have a Montana 215 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: thing to talk about a little while. I'm trying to 216 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: explain to you how dangerous it is up there. And 217 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: there's another problem, a big problem, especially around this time. 218 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: The year's eighteen sixty three. The problem is people are 219 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: getting robbed. And I don't mean one or two people. 220 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean everyone who seems to be carrying a decent 221 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: amount of gold nuggets or gold dust seems to be 222 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: getting held up along the road. Why are they getting 223 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: held up along the road? Well, that brings me back 224 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about before. Who is going 225 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: to these mining camps? What makes up a mining camp? 226 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Lots of times most of the people there were pretty 227 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: down on their luck. Lots of times people in these 228 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: camps had a bit of a checkered background. Not a 229 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: nice way to put that, let's just be honest about it. 230 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Lots of times these guys had their faces on wanted 231 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: posters in other parts of the United States of America. 232 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: But it's a really funny thing. These mining camps are 233 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: fascinating things. You see, they came from civilization. They came 234 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: from a civilized society in the United States of America. 235 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: But what they didn't have was a civilized society. They 236 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: got to so they kind of made their own and 237 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: kind of didn't. They set up a camp, they set 238 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: up a community. There was a basic understanding in these camps. 239 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: This is my tent, that's your tent. I won't steal, 240 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: you won't steal. Merchants would set up shop, their lawyers 241 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: would set up shop there. There are claims, there's even 242 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: as people do, and this is going to be important, 243 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: there's even on occasion a sheriff elected. Why while we 244 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: have to have somebody look out for us. But here's 245 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the thing. The sheriff is somebody who's chosen from that 246 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: population too. Sometimes you end up with a man named 247 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Sheriff Henry Plummer. Sheriff Henry Plummer, when he was elected 248 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: sheriff was a murderer several times over, several times over 249 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: a man who'd already spent time in sam Quinton, in fact, 250 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: only got out of sam Quinton faking like he got tuberculosis. Well, 251 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: now you could find yourself in quite a pickle, right 252 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: if the sheriff overus a bit of a crook. But 253 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: it should be noted he's thought of as being relatively 254 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: well liked. Except people are starting to notice things in 255 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: the mining community. They are they're starting to notice because 256 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: word travels fast, that too many people were getting robbed. 257 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: And remember there's no money. When I said gold nuggets 258 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: and gold dust, this is the Montana Teret worry. This 259 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: is not the United States of America. There's no cash, 260 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: or if there is, it's very minimal. If you buy 261 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: things with gold, gold dust, gold duggets, that twitch you 262 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: buy things, it's everything you get on your wagon. Too 263 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: much gold in it. You're getting held up all the time. 264 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: And then they go from just being hold ups to 265 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: something else. Hang Raycon that is the name that's going 266 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: to be sweeping the industry when it comes to earbuds, 267 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: and and look, I say this from experience. I quite 268 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: frankly live with things in my ears. I know that 269 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: sounds strange, but I have headphones in for three hours 270 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: a day on radio, then another hour a day on TV. 271 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: I know what quality is in what it isn't. And 272 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I have never in my life had earbuds in my 273 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: ears that sound like Raycon, the base, the voices. That's 274 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: on top of the fact that they're easy to pair, 275 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: they're easy to control, volume up, volume down, pause, play, 276 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: power on, power off, comes with this handy little case, 277 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: lasts for six hours on a charge, and they're comfortable comfortable. 278 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: Go to buy Raycon dot com slash Jesse that's by 279 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: Raycon dot Com slash Jesse. That gets you fifteen percent 280 00:22:44,440 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: off the already great price. It was actually not extremely 281 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: common at this time for a robbery to result in 282 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: a murder. However, the robberies started to result in murders. 283 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: And if you're a mining camp and you exist supporting 284 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: each other, you're kind of the outcasts of society getting 285 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: by trying to make it rich. You are not going 286 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: to stand by forever as you get robbed continuously, and 287 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: now they're starting to kill people. Only here's the problem. 288 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: They figure out Sheriff Henry Plumber's the one doing the 289 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: killing and his gang of misfits. He has a dozen 290 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: some say twenty. You can't get good accurate stuff on it. 291 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: He has men with him. They're doing the robbing, they're 292 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: doing the killing. Now, what are you supposed to do 293 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: about that? Remember our conversation in the beginning about the punisher. 294 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: If you're uncomfortable with that, and I mean part of 295 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: me wants you to be uncomfortable with that. But if 296 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: you are uncomfortable with that, what do you do? Now? 297 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm not making this part up. This isn't fictional. This 298 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: was real. People lived under this. The sheriff and his 299 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: gang of misfits are robbing and killing people. What are 300 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: you supposed to do about that? They form what's called 301 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: a vigilance committee. Now, a vigilance committee is not the 302 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: first they're not the first ones to do this. It 303 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: had been undone other places and other territories, and they 304 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: do this as a way. It's something society clearly does 305 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: because there's not necessarily always an established law enforcement court presence. 306 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: They do this as a way to create their own 307 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, ad hoc law enforcement thing. These guys go out, 308 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: they track people down, they make arrests, and that doesn't 309 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: sound bad to some people. And as a brief side note, 310 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: let me step away for a moment, I will tell 311 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: you that doesn't sound terrible to me. In my perfect 312 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: libertarian world i'd like to live in. Although I don't 313 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: consider myself a libertarian. I'll explain that in a little while. 314 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, just a quick side note, as I brought 315 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: it up, I would love to live in the under 316 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: a libertarian form of government. It's, in my opinion, that's 317 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: the most superior form. However, libertarianism cannot possibly defeat communist 318 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: Communism must be defeated before you put in that government. 319 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: But that's another matter. We'll discuss that later in the show. 320 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: So in my perfect world, we don't need that many cops. 321 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: How many cops do you need when everybody's walking around 322 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: with a firearm And it was like this a lot 323 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: in these mining camps. This was a time you were 324 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: armed at all times. But eventually, this is why you 325 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: can't ever do the abolish all police thing. Eventually, like 326 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: now you run against some criminals who were just better 327 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: at it than you, and you have to gang up 328 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: and get them, and they gang up and get them. 329 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: But here's the problem. They start by going after the 330 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: bad guys who they know are bad guys, who they 331 00:26:52,480 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: know are robbing them, and they start killing them. Yes, 332 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: they're trying to have a trial. Let's do trials, but 333 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: remember this, Trials are real ugly business back then. And 334 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: you'll hear attorneys complain about this today, but back then especially, 335 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: there's almost no pay for the prosecutor, almost none. Think 336 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: how hard it can be to convict someone today with 337 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: all the forensic evidence in DNA and things like that. Now, 338 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: think how hard it is to convict someone back then 339 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: without an eye witness. How do you I've always found 340 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: that fascinating. How in the world do you even investigate 341 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: a crime? Very very very difficult. Defense attorneys got paid more. 342 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: Defense attorneys were more capable, so you can start having 343 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: these little trials, and they do. But as soon as 344 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: someone gets acquitted, well, wait a minute, this is a murderer, 345 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: This is a thief. We know he's a murderer. Thief. Okay, 346 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: no more trials. Now they're going to people's homes often drunk, 347 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: dragging them out of their homes, bad men in the 348 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: middle of the night, throwing a rope around their necks 349 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: and hanging them. I'm a dude. Part of me when 350 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: I hear things like this cheers. Part of me thinks good, 351 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: screw them, they got what they deserve. But a couple 352 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: of things you need to note. One, this story gets 353 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: uglier too. It's easy for you and I to cheer 354 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: for something like that. Have you ever heard a man, 355 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: even a bad one, wetting himself, begging for his life, 356 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: crying before you tie a rope around his neck and 357 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: watch him die again? Looks easy on paper, looks easy 358 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: in the movies. Could you do it? Could you do it? Well, 359 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: these guys they start doing it. They start doing it 360 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: a lot. They even track down the sheriff, Henry Plummer, 361 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: and they string him up too. But here's the thing 362 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to justice, when it comes to lynch mobs, 363 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: which this undoubtedly was the Montana Vigilantes, as we've talked 364 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: about a million times on the show. Once you get 365 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: that kind of power, how often do people give back 366 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: that kind of power? You get done hang and all 367 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: the people you know are bad? Well, I mean, look, 368 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: we we killed all the murderers, should we go home 369 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: or you know, let's hold on. Just hear me out here. 370 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: What if we killed all the thieves too, you know what, Okay, 371 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: we'll kill the thieves and then we'll stop. Then we'll 372 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: be done. All right, everyone is in agreement. Yep, that's 373 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. You hunt down all the thieves 374 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: and kill them too. All right? Are we done? Well? 375 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've got some town drunks around here. 376 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe these guys who get drunk and start fights. 377 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: What if hear me out what if we just got 378 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: rid of them too, And that's the final thing. That's 379 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: the final thing. And that's what they do. And these 380 00:30:52,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: are not dispassionate trials of justice. Dude. He was a 381 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Mexican dude, completely innocent. They dude, not committed any crimes. 382 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I guess he was considered a nuisance, is what they 383 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: called it. They go to his home, try to kick 384 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: in the door of the middle of the night. Again, 385 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: everybody's arms, so he shoots back. I think it kills 386 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: one of the guys, if I remember right, I know 387 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: he wounds at least two of them. They get a 388 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Howitzer and blow down his house. They then drag him 389 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: out of there and mutilate the body. Getting uglier, right, 390 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: remember you said you wanted to be punisher. Well, this 391 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: is what it looks like in real life. This is 392 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: what it looks like. Now it's getting outrageous. So they decide, okay, 393 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna set up a court. There are people of 394 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: reason there saying, oh, let's set up a court. This 395 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: is getting too much. Let's set up a court. The 396 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: court takes time to set up. While they're setting up 397 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: the court, the vigilance committee still hanging people, everybody they 398 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: can get their freaking hands on. They've now moved on 399 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: from murderers and thieves. Oh oh boy, they've they've moved 400 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: their way down the ladder. Now hang on, is he 401 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: smarter than everyone who knows? Does he think so? Yeah? 402 00:32:41,160 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show vigilance Committee, Oh boy, do they 403 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: start working their way down. Now they work their way down. 404 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: They're hanging trail bosses. Man named Slade, a famous famous fame, 405 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: but one of these famous Western adventurers who were real 406 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: famous back then. They start killing lawyers who represent the defendants. 407 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: They start killing people who write critical letters. Of them. 408 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: And maybe the best part is how it all ends. Findly, 409 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: a newspaper prints a really ugly picture people swinging from 410 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: a rope. They wake up to the fact everybody's onto 411 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: them and they're becoming the criminals, and they all just 412 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: kind of go away. Them all on Tana vigilantes hung 413 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: fifty men. Fifty men dragged out of their homes in 414 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, strung up. They were originally hunting. 415 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: Remember it was like a dozen bandits fifty men. But 416 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't know how to separate justice 417 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: from revenge. I don't know what that word justice even 418 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: means sometimes because it gets so twisted. They did solve 419 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: the bandit problem, they did, one guy said. One guy. 420 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: When I was reading up on this and listening to stuff, 421 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: one guy said, there were still robberies. Well, yeah, there 422 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: are always robberies, but in this particular area, way down, 423 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: way down. What is justice? What is it? How is 424 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: it different than revenge? I don't know. I don't know. 425 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: We talked about we talked about the Punisher in the 426 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: total fictional superhero world. Let's be honest about something. He's 427 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: the only one offering real solutions. How many criminals are 428 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: left in the world as long as we're doing weird 429 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: superhero stuff today on my birthday, how many criminals are 430 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: left in the world? You know what, forget about the world. 431 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: Let's do a city, New York City. How many criminals 432 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: are left in New York City? If Superman decides on 433 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: his own, I am going to grab and squash the 434 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: head of every criminal I see. I'm going to murder him, 435 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna hold him there and burn off his eyes, 436 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: burn out his eyes, and kill him with my laser eyes. 437 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna kill every criminal I find. No 438 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: more arrests, no more taking to jail, no more this. 439 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt down everybody, from petty pickpockets to murders. 440 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: I will find you, and I'm just gonna kill them 441 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: all on the spot, every one of them. That's horrible, right, 442 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: That's horrible. It's ugly. My goodness, I wouldn't want to 443 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: live in that city. What if you got what if 444 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: he got somebody wrong? You know? But how much longer 445 00:36:52,239 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: does New York have a crime problem after that? It's 446 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: an interesting question, isn't it. Because I don't know the 447 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: answer to it, but I know this societies groups of people. 448 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily talking about nations, because I don't really 449 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: consider us one nation anymore. We're so balkanized and broken up. 450 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: But societies, groups of people, they will find a way 451 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: to get the justice they want, whether it's considered legal, 452 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: whether it's considered morally right, they will find a way 453 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: to do so. And here's something I struggle with a 454 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: lot right now. I talked about it earlier, and it's 455 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: time to have a frank conversation about it today. And 456 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: you're welcome to call in eight seven seven three seven 457 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: seven four three seven three eight seven seven three seven 458 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: seven four three seven three. I want to live under 459 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: a libertarian government. It would be my ideal form of government. 460 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: Leave me alone, I leave you alone. There are obviously 461 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: huge problems with the Libertarian Party, mainly immigration. People think 462 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: libertarianism can exist without strict control of the borders, and 463 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: it simply cannot. That's the most naive thing I've ever 464 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: heard in my life. It's real pie in the sky stuff. Oh, 465 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: our society can absolutely remain free. Well, yes, of course, 466 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: we'll take in those fifty thousand people who have no 467 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: desire to remain free. Are you an idiot. That's not 468 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: how that works at all. But anyway, be that isn't man, 469 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: I want to live under that government. I operate under 470 00:38:44,440 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: a small, limited government mentality. However, aggressive steps, oftentimes bigger government, 471 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: stronger government, more forceful government steps, must be taken in 472 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: the fight against communism, don't they. I'll explain in a second. 473 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: I love the end of a week because I know 474 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a weekend with the family now. And 475 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, my weekends with the family 476 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: now are better than my weekends with the family have 477 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: ever been because at the end of my work week, 478 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm not burnout, I'm not tired, I'm not exhausted. And 479 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: that's not because things have changed at work. It's because 480 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping eight hours a night, every single night with 481 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: my EBB sleep every single night. You can have that too. 482 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: It's right there for you. If you don't believe me, 483 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: or if you're questioning it, go to trieb dot com 484 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: slash jesse use the code jesse because that I get 485 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: you twenty five bucks off, get your EBB sleep, and 486 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: you can try it risk free for sixty days. Find 487 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: out for yourself. Stop this madness. Of not sleeping. Tryeb 488 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: dot com slash Jesse use the code Jesse at checkout 489 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks off. There was a mini controversy. Is 490 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: the mini controversy in Portland involving this? We have federal 491 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: agents in camouflaw uniforms, helmets and everything else driving up 492 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: in unmarked vands, grabbing Antifa members, these violent vandals Antifa 493 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: and chucking them in the back of vans and driving off. 494 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: Now it all shook out that they were processed, questioned, 495 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: and released. The libertarian in me isn't great with it, 496 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: but that's a very small part of me when it 497 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: comes to this. Let me ask you where should they 498 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: have taken them in that van? Hang on, We're gonna 499 00:41:49,480 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: have a hard discussion, hand say Jesse Kelly returns next. 500 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let me ask you 501 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: the ultimate hypothetically, what do you feel about those federal 502 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: agents chucking Antifa members in the back of a van 503 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: releasing them a couple hours later? You probably don't care. 504 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: In a vacuum again, this is where I'm struggling right now. 505 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm just describing to you what I'm struggling with. In 506 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: a vacuum. I actually don't love it. In reality, the 507 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: world we live in right now, I think they should 508 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: have chucked him in a different vehicle and chucked him 509 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: out something else. Is that too harsh? Is that wrong? 510 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: Is it morally wrong? Is it justice? Here's the truth 511 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: of the matter, and this is a fact. This is 512 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: not my opinion. We cannot Lazai fair mind my own business, 513 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: all do me? You do you our way out of 514 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: this communist insurrection we are currently experiencing in the United 515 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: States of America. It is not possible. And I am 516 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: not for one second sitting here saying you need to 517 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: set aside your small government, limited government conservatism, libertarianism, of 518 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: course not that's where we want to go. That is 519 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: the goal. But here's the problem. Libertarianism can't content defeat communism. 520 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: It will lose to communism. So what's the other solution? 521 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: Something like nationalism, which sounds great. I'm all about closing 522 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: the borders. Problem with that too, everything has problems. Problem 523 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: with nationalism is it involves more big government. It's the problem, right, 524 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: the big problem. I mean, that's not what we want. 525 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: It's not what we want big government. But what else 526 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: are we going to do to these people? I mean 527 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: Portland won't do anything. Portland is openly allowing these people 528 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: to destroy Portland. Big cities are allowing these people to 529 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: destroy major US cities. Again, the Federalist in me says 530 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: that your problem have fun ruined New York City. The 531 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: American in me says, New York City is an icon. 532 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: We're going to allow these dirty communists COUM to destroy 533 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: a wonderful American city. We cannot allow that. What do 534 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: we do? What is justice? What is right? What will happen? 535 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: What will happen? Well, here's what's going to happen, and 536 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't have to guess because history tells me. So. 537 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: What's going to happen is this, unless we do something 538 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: radical and changing. We are we are going to sit 539 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: and let these people take, and let these people take, 540 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: and let these people take, and when these people are done, 541 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: when we are done letting them take it. What's going 542 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: to happen is We're going to choose somebody that you 543 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: and I should be very very afraid of, because he's 544 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: going to promise to finally fight back. People think Donald 545 00:46:51,400 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: Trump was something outside of the norm, This vulgarian guy. 546 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 1: We voted for because we think He's a strong man 547 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: who's gonna take it to the left. Donald Trump is 548 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: a benign, relatively tasteless appetizer of what is to come 549 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: if this doesn't stop. As the leftists get more rabid 550 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: and more radical, there is going to be an answer 551 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: from the right that is more rabid and more radical, 552 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: and probably not possibly probably somebody who does things that 553 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: make you and I very very uncomfortable. You remember we 554 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: did that episode on Chile last week. Shut up, Chris, 555 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: that's how you say it. Are you uncomfortable with Augusto 556 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: Pinochet picking up communists and throwing them out of helicopters? 557 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: Are you uncomfortable with it? I kind of hope you are. 558 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, things like that are coming right someday. That's 559 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: not coming tomorrow. But if we don't get a hold 560 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: of this communist insurrection in America, of this plague of injustice, 561 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: then justice is going to come. Justice is going to 562 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: come in one form or another. It is, I promise 563 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: you it is, because just like in that mining camp 564 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: in Montana, people will only put up with abuse for 565 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: so long until they eventually get their own form of justice. 566 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: They're going to choose somebody or something or somebody's who 567 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: will fight for them and when they do that, when 568 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: that day comes. If we fail and that day comes, 569 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: we're a very very very bad man from the right 570 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: takes takes power. Who will fight the commies? You know 571 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: who will be to blame. It will be you and I. 572 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: We will be to blame because every weak need mealy 573 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: mouthed response we put out there today, All right, maybe 574 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: we should actually just take down they just take down 575 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: a couple conservative Confederate monuments. Are these don't make me comfortable? 576 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: But nothing else? You guys, are you street mobs? You're okay? Now? Oh? 577 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: You want more? Oh, I'm shocked. I had no idea 578 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: you'd want more. Every capitulation, every bend of the knee 579 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: between now and the day that strong man rises, every 580 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: single one of those is the reason the strong man 581 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 1: will rise. I don't think this. I know this because 582 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: societies always seek a balance. The more radical the leftists 583 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: become and have become, the more violent the leftists have become, 584 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: there will be an answer from the right. And what 585 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, the reason I brought it up earlier 586 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: today is how comfortable are you watching someone die? Probably 587 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: not very for most of you. I would hope it 588 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: would be not very for most of you. We're talking 589 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,280 Speaker 1: real lives here, we're talking life and death. We're talking 590 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: about ugly things. Look at these headlines, all these headlines 591 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: are They're all the same, all of them. Portland's Democrat 592 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: mayor attempts to blame Trump for ongoing violence. This is 593 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: him trying to kick out the federal law enforcement guys 594 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: who are resting Antifa. Another headline, Missouri governor says he'd 595 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: pardon Saint Louis couple if they're charge for brandishing guns 596 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: at protesters. That's the hill. So again, we're now as 597 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: you see it, You see it happening, don't you. You 598 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: see two different two different well there's not another way 599 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: to put it. Two different standards for law enforcement, two 600 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: different standards of justice. That couple, well, they're in a 601 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,959 Speaker 1: liberal city, so they'll be prosecuted in the liberal city. 602 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: But then the conservative governor will step in and and 603 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: and he'll he'll he'll pardon them right away. But then 604 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: this liberal judge will jump in and so now because 605 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: you don't have a judicial system, you have a different 606 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: politicized body. Now, now it's about to get real radical. 607 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: This judge will pardon them. This judge won't because it's 608 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: all on politics. And finally, and this is really what 609 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: I want to dwell on here for a few because 610 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: boy do we need to White House Chief of Staff 611 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows quote it's time for people to go to 612 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: jail talking about imminent indictments in the Durham probe. Hang 613 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: on one second. 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That what, Chris, That 633 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: was the day I was born. It is my birthday 634 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: to day. I'm just saying, metals meadows signals in imminent 635 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: indictment in Durham probe, it's time for people to go 636 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: to jail. Let's just set this up again. I know 637 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: you know this, but let's set this up again. We 638 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: are at a time in America right now, especially with 639 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: what we've seen in the past few months, we have 640 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: lawlessness everywhere. It's all over the news, it's everywhere you look, 641 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: allowed lawlessness. These cities have told these people, they've told 642 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: their police departments to stand down. And what that has done, 643 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: what that has to do with all this Durham probe stuff, 644 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 1: is it is putting more and more in the minds 645 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: of the American public that there is no justice, that 646 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: things are lawless, and that is a dangerous thing. Now 647 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,959 Speaker 1: when it comes to the probe, we have President Barack Obama. 648 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, his FBI clearly, either under his direction 649 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: or with his direct knowledge, used fake information, completely fake 650 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: information from a foreign intelligence agent who was working for 651 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton campaign. Created a dossier, took it to 652 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, who then took it to 653 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: a five succort and got a warrant to spy a 654 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: not only an American citizen who was innocent, but on 655 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: an American citizen who was his political opponent. That is 656 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: state police Stazi type stuff. It is. That is a 657 00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: huge deal, the biggest political scandal in the history of 658 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 1: the United States of America by a mile. And I'm 659 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: telling you, Mark Meadows, it's time for people to go 660 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: to jail. He says, I am sending this signal to Durham, 661 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: bar Republicans, Democrats, everybody in DC. Somebody better go to jail. 662 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: Somebody had better go to jail, because what you're seeing 663 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: right now is the American public losing faith and their 664 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: own government losing faith that there is such a thing 665 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: as justice. And when they get to that point, you 666 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: get to a point quickly, well, looks like Montana in 667 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties. It does, or worse. You had better 668 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: starts sending signals to the American public that there is justice, 669 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: that the people in the inn crowd will be held accountable, 670 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: because if you do not, you are partially responsible for 671 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: what comes next. And what comes next never is good. Ever, 672 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: it's ugly, it's bad. I don't want it. I don't 673 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: want federal police grabbing people they don't like in throwing 674 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: them into unmarked vans. At the same time, federal police 675 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: better keep grabbing people they don't like in throwing them 676 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: into unmarked vans, because something has got to put down 677 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 1: this commy insurrection now before it gets any worse, and 678 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: not just because of them, because of us, because the 679 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 1: longer we put off a legitimate answer to this, the worse. 680 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: Our answer has to be. Those roots, those COMMI roots 681 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: are already very very, very deep in the United States 682 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: of America, and that means right now, if we didn't, 683 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: if they didn't gain another inch of ground right now, 684 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: it would be extremely painful to root them out. I 685 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: think I use the word root too much that that's 686 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: not important. It's my birthday. How much deeper are you 687 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: going to allow them to go, because at some point 688 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: in time they can get so deep it'll kill you 689 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: to root them out. I'm struggling personally. I am struggling 690 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: personally with what I want from my government right now, 691 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: and I should clear if when I say I don't 692 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: want federal agents throwing people into unmarked vans, I'm saying 693 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: that because I know for a fact the leftists will 694 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: turn around when they gain power and start throwing you 695 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: and me into unmarked vans. I don't want government to 696 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: have that power at all. Now, it turns out these 697 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: things were totally justified. These were people threatening vandalizing federal buildings, 698 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: so they were being detained for that. If you can't tell, 699 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: the shows recently should be a pretty good indicator to you. 700 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm very worried that we're already past the point or 701 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: rapidly getting a point we're solving our COMMI insurgency problem 702 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: is going to involve doing things that I don't ever 703 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: want to have to do, and I don't want you 704 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: to have to do, and I don't want to have 705 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: to read about it in the papers. I don't want 706 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: to have to watch it on the news. I don't 707 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: want that I just want to live in peace and 708 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 1: be left alone. That's all I want. I don't know 709 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: if I'm going to get what I want, though, and 710 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: that sucks because these people are not backing off. They're 711 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: not getting shire, they're not losing their motivation, they're not 712 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: backing off, and they're not going to back off. And 713 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the problem is there's no history. And you know how 714 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: much I love it, and you know we study it 715 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: all the time, there is no history in communism, zero, none, 716 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 1: zilch that has them backing off without being forced to 717 01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: back off. Are you comfortable with communism? I'm assuming the 718 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: answer to that is pretty much universally no. So let 719 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: me ask you, are you comfortable with a solution to communism? 720 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: You know who? You know who defeated communism? Right, wasn't 721 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: just Pinochet, but who defeated communism in his own country? 722 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, Adolf Hitler did got a lot more uncomfortable now, 723 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: didn't it. I don't think we need to model ourselves 724 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: after the Anti Christ, but it didn't do it nicely either. 725 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: And these examples are ugly and their tyrannical and their murder. 726 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm all ears for another way. I want another way. 727 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm desperate for another way, So somebody tell me what 728 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: the other way is. When they own all of it, 729 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: half of one of the half of the two political parties, 730 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the media system, the entire university system, the entire entertainment system, 731 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: over ninety percent of the federal government, over ninety percent 732 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: of the federal government, that is deeply rooted, firmly entrenched. 733 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: How do we stop this madness? How do we get 734 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: these people out? And how do we do it the 735 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: right way? Because that's what we want, right, isn't it. 736 01:02:50,440 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 1: I am you know your house smells. Don't get mad, 737 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: don't get mad. My house smells too. I'm not indicting you. 738 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time 739 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking 740 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their 741 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: animals smells, Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was 742 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: just living create smells. 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