Speaker 1: Seriously, you've been broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys training camp
Speaker 1: in Oxnard, California. Now he's Shannon Hey show number three
Speaker 1: or four with Hanging with the Boys. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've already lost count because I'm out here by myself
Speaker 1: and I don't have anybody to help me out. But
Speaker 1: I do have somebody on the show to help me out.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite guys on the team, because he
Speaker 1: is so nice and he's always in such a good
Speaker 1: mood every time you talk to him, and this is
Speaker 1: like his third go round with us. Yeah. Yeah, Darius
Speaker 1: Jackson or DJ or D Jacks. What do you go by?
Speaker 1: What do you like? Whatever it is? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like girls, and like
Speaker 1: my mom my mom kind of called me Darius. My
Speaker 1: grandmama called me Darius. My girlfriend might call me Darius.
Speaker 1: The guys call me DJ. And if you want to
Speaker 1: spice it up, I kind of like D Jack, D
Speaker 1: Jack All right, D Jack or D Jacks D Jack
Speaker 1: you know either either or I like D Jack because
Speaker 1: it makes you sound like ripped. Yeah, yeah, okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go with D Jack. Yeah, how's it been going? Man? Man?
Speaker 1: It's been going great. Yeah, great, it feel it feels
Speaker 1: good out here. I mean it's it doesn't get better
Speaker 1: than this. You know, I'm in a great mood because
Speaker 1: of seventy degrees. We're out here in California training camp
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Can't complain at all. No, it's hard
Speaker 1: to complain. And if you if you complain, everybody looks
Speaker 1: at you like you're crazy, Like what are you talking about? Like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you got the best job in the world. You're in
Speaker 1: the best weather in the world. We get to play
Speaker 1: football every day. Yeah, for the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There you go, man, no complaints. Yeah, so talking talking
Speaker 1: about that best team in the NFL. You've you've been
Speaker 1: around the block a few times in your short career.
Speaker 1: You were what here, and then you left and went Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I went to Cleveland. I went to Cleveland my rookie year,
Speaker 1: and I was there. I was there a full year.
Speaker 1: I had had a knee injury. I tore macy, so
Speaker 1: I was on IR that year and then uh, once
Speaker 1: I got released in set eighteen eighteen, I came back.
Speaker 1: I came back and then then where the forty four
Speaker 1: days for a few months yeah, and then I parted ways,
Speaker 1: parted ways for again for another six five six weeks,
Speaker 1: went to Green Bay, and now I'm back, hopefully here
Speaker 1: to stay in that two six two six. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: any significance in any of the numbers, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was six in college? Um, I was six in college.
Speaker 1: I was twenty six in the NFLPA Game All Star Game.
Speaker 1: So it just I kind of liked it. I kind
Speaker 1: of like rocking that two six. So when it was open,
Speaker 1: we haven't had a running back in that in a while,
Speaker 1: its DBS, so I was like, you know, let's do
Speaker 1: It's okay, Like, you know, I want that two six.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Cleveland and Green Bay
Speaker 1: in Dallas are three very different cities, very different, very different,
Speaker 1: not football wise, but just living and lifestyle. Tell me
Speaker 1: the difference in like, what is it typical because we
Speaker 1: go to Green Bay, we usually stay in Appleton, which
Speaker 1: Appleton's kind of cool, but green Bay there's not. There's
Speaker 1: probably like a Lubi's and that's about it, right, And
Speaker 1: cheese Kurds, like, what is there to do at night
Speaker 1: or on the weekends in Green Bay? Yeah? Um, during
Speaker 1: the day, Yeah, we're actually talking about this. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's your choice. It's either Applebe's or Longhorn Stakehouse. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's funny because when my grandparents came, we
Speaker 1: went to Longhorn, you know. I've mean I think I
Speaker 1: went the Longhorn three times in my in my three
Speaker 1: home games there. So so yeah, there's not much to
Speaker 1: do in Green Bay. When I went there, I obviously
Speaker 1: knew it was in Wisconsin, I didn't know how far north.
Speaker 1: So when I got there, I kind of looked it
Speaker 1: up and I was like wow, like this is like
Speaker 1: this is Canada essentially, Like I was like, man, And
Speaker 1: so it was kind of off the grid, like all
Speaker 1: there is is football. I mean, you wake up, you
Speaker 1: go to the stadium. By the time you get out,
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost time to go to bed. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's not a lot going on. So green Bay
Speaker 1: was very different. And then Cleveland was a food town.
Speaker 1: I lived downtown. I had to stay downtown in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: just stuff to do, a lot of food. You know.
Speaker 1: I also had my girlfriend live with me, so she
Speaker 1: was like my personal chef there. So I'll just say
Speaker 1: Cleveland food town, Green Bay football football town, Dallas variety,
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Obviously, I stayed in Frisco. I love Frisco. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dallas is a place to be. I'll get a house there.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, eventually that's where you think your house. Hang
Speaker 1: it up Adallas, regardless of Dallas. Yeah. A lot of
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys that play in the
Speaker 1: league that that go through Dallas, that play there at
Speaker 1: some point in the career, A lot of them come
Speaker 1: back there to stay, even if they don't end up
Speaker 1: there at their last stops. It seems like half the
Speaker 1: league almost. Yeah. But what's just cut for me? Growing
Speaker 1: up in Garland, My dad, his whole side of families
Speaker 1: down there. It's just it's just easy. Um, I know
Speaker 1: the area. I like it. Where do you played high
Speaker 1: school ball? I played high Schooball Sparta High School, Sparta, Illinois,
Speaker 1: real small town town, about four thousand, okay. Graduating class
Speaker 1: was eighty two. Oh wow. Yeah. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a journey just just making it to that
Speaker 1: D one level. Yeah, you know, from there, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we made it. We made it. Did you
Speaker 1: say you grew up in Garland? I grew up in
Speaker 1: Garland Hills thirteen, Garland, Texas. Yeah, so I went to
Speaker 1: Austin Austin Academy Middle School. I still have my buddies
Speaker 1: that you know, we hung out growing up playing sluck basketball,
Speaker 1: youth football. They're still my buddies to this day. So, uh,
Speaker 1: most of them live in Garland, but a couple of
Speaker 1: living Houston. So but we're all right there. That's kind
Speaker 1: of impressive that you you grew up in Garland and
Speaker 1: you and you still have a full set of teeth
Speaker 1: in your head. Yeah, and mesquite like, oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: you made it out with the full set of you
Speaker 1: guys still got your hair. You know, they mold you.
Speaker 1: You know it molds you. And uh, we played real
Speaker 1: ball now, you know, we played real ball growing up.
Speaker 1: So I was happy to grow up there and play
Speaker 1: ball right there. And uh, some of those guys I
Speaker 1: played against as the kids are also in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's fun. Yeah, I can mess
Speaker 1: with you about that because I'm from West Minroe, Louisiana. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could ask you could ask Xavier about that. Like,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people that make it out
Speaker 1: of there with all their teeth too. I can mess
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, you metching basketball my sources, which happens
Speaker 1: to be Dave Hellman that works for Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 1: the little short guy with the beard. He said, you're
Speaker 1: really into basketball. I just I'm a big Lebron James saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: how why I love his journey? I love his journey.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that, you know, like he always says,
Speaker 1: he's just a kid from Akron. You know, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: obviously just god gifted, but there's a lot of kids
Speaker 1: that are God gifted. And the way he paid his
Speaker 1: way and his journey is just so inspiring to me.
Speaker 1: Getting drafted to his hometown, you know, close to his
Speaker 1: hometown obviously Cleveland, and then making the decision to go
Speaker 1: to Miami. Tough decision, but he grew so much there.
Speaker 1: He grew so much, especially after losing to the Mavericks
Speaker 1: in eleven. Yeah, so I really felt like I felt
Speaker 1: like his pain of losing and his happiness of winning,
Speaker 1: but nothing was more satisfying than his championship in sixteen,
Speaker 1: coming back from three one. Yeah, I really felt that one.
Speaker 1: So after that, I mean, I understand all his moves
Speaker 1: going out to LA It's not just the business side.
Speaker 1: I mean, he still wants to win. Yeah, but everything's
Speaker 1: just set up for him. I just love his journey
Speaker 1: and I appreciate how much he's grown just off the court,
Speaker 1: you know, with his businesses. It's amazing. Yeah. Are you
Speaker 1: a big fan of Taco Tuesday? I love Taco Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Do you keep up with his Instagram store? Of course?
Speaker 1: Of course, got to get the face up. You gotta
Speaker 1: get that little granny kids. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. But
Speaker 1: I love it, you know, I love his kids are
Speaker 1: in it. His whole household. He'll bring you know, Anthony Davis. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just great. It's just great for sports, it's great
Speaker 1: for It's just great an example of the Black father especially,
Speaker 1: you know, setting just setting that standard. Yeah, I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's different for you this time around? Is anything different?
Speaker 1: Does it feel different? Mindset has always been the same attack,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm in a dominant mindset at all times,
Speaker 1: no matter the task. But what's different is that everything
Speaker 1: feels different. I'm not gonna lie everything feels different. It
Speaker 1: feels right. Um. Obviously, obviously all the running backs we're
Speaker 1: getting more reps, We're getting my opportunities you know, we're
Speaker 1: holding it down for Zekes or whenever it gets back.
Speaker 1: But everything just feels good. This whole, the entire team
Speaker 1: feels great. I just think we have a great chemistry
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a special year. I just
Speaker 1: feel it. I just know it. Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: I've talked to a few people that have been around
Speaker 1: this team a long time, and there seems to be
Speaker 1: not only is this team talented, but I hear the
Speaker 1: locker room is the best, one of the best locker rooms.
Speaker 1: I've talked to people that have been with this team
Speaker 1: for twenty thirty years and they say this is the
Speaker 1: best locker room that they've been around as far as
Speaker 1: like good guys and just really good dudes on the
Speaker 1: team that enjoy hanging out. And you can see that,
Speaker 1: like you can feel it. Man, It's it's really cool.
Speaker 1: Oh it is. We I mean we laugh, we joke,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, we come out here and
Speaker 1: get the business and then we go back in the
Speaker 1: locker room and whatever happened on the field, it happened
Speaker 1: on the field, you know, brothers. So it really does
Speaker 1: feel like that everyone everyone talks to each other, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone hangs out. It's really cool to have, really cool
Speaker 1: to have talk about GB Gary Brown like, he's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite characters on the team, one of the
Speaker 1: favorite guys on the coaching staff. He just seems like
Speaker 1: he's always having fun. But he challenges you guys, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like he's a good influence to be around.
Speaker 1: He is he is. He does challenge us. He keeps
Speaker 1: it light, you know, because that's what you need. It's
Speaker 1: a grind the meetings and practice and more meetings, so
Speaker 1: he keeps it light. He jokes around, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, we get great work done. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best coaches to me in the NFL, the way
Speaker 1: he breaks stuff down and teaches it to us and
Speaker 1: lets us be free and play free. And that's what
Speaker 1: makes them special. Yeah, one more question, what do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Because I don't want to keep
Speaker 1: you too long because you got well, I know, I
Speaker 1: know yesterday, you know I wanted to school you up
Speaker 1: on this this beard game. Oh yes, I wanted to
Speaker 1: school you up from yes because we're I know you're beard,
Speaker 1: like I said, was a lot bigger and you kind
Speaker 1: of cut it down. But you're about to grow it
Speaker 1: back out. Yeah, so no, I just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: you know, there is a process to this beer game.
Speaker 1: You know, Like last time I was on the show,
Speaker 1: I mean my beard was looking pretty choppy. I mean
Speaker 1: it was pretty low. I wasn't gonna mention it was
Speaker 1: trying to grow in. I mean I'm a young pup.
Speaker 1: So now I got it. You know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: all the way up. It's feeling in it's camp. So
Speaker 1: it might be looking a little rough. No, it looks
Speaker 1: good solid. Oh yeah, you know once I put the
Speaker 1: razor on it. But uh straight, no, no, the shame
Speaker 1: moisture beard washed, gotta have it smells great. Your girl
Speaker 1: would love it, Okay. You know right after you put
Speaker 1: on this this rugged brose moisturizer, I mean you put
Speaker 1: it all in your comment, your brush it and then uh,
Speaker 1: like you said, you kind of leave that right. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's more of a moisturizer. It's not too wet,
Speaker 1: not too heavy. But like you know, when when it's
Speaker 1: a special occasion, taking girl on a date, you know,
Speaker 1: going somewhere nice, you gotta put that that extra oil
Speaker 1: on it. As you were talking about that extra seine,
Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta make you wipe it off
Speaker 1: or you got to bed or talk on the phone,
Speaker 1: talking all up on the phone. You got wiping on
Speaker 1: the jeans after so but that Seane's worth it though
Speaker 1: for the time before that special ocasipecial. You can't do
Speaker 1: it too often. Yeah, No, I was thinking about putting
Speaker 1: it on for this. You know, next time, next time,
Speaker 1: you know what, next time, I'm gonna get Act Black
Speaker 1: to send us. They have some beard products, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have beard beard grooming and manicuring techniques on the show.
Speaker 1: We might even bring like somebody in from Cowboy up
Speaker 1: to straighten us up. That's work. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? I'm into it. We'll do our own spinoff
Speaker 1: show maybe thirty minutes, and the whole time we're getting
Speaker 1: worked on, we're talking about just whatever. Yeah, I'm down down.
Speaker 1: We got to teach people how to take care of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: speaking of the beard, are you gonna let it keep going?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get you I'm more of a clean
Speaker 1: look type of guy. I don't like it too low,
Speaker 1: but not too thick, Okay, I like a solid black
Speaker 1: line it up, you know. No, No, frizzy frizzies out there.
Speaker 1: Keep it clean, keep it crisp. So this is about
Speaker 1: the length you're gonna keep it. It's about the length,
Speaker 1: you know, if you might see it just a hair
Speaker 1: longer than Okay, it's about what about the hair, letting
Speaker 1: that go or now the hair. I can always grow
Speaker 1: the hair out, curled up more, but uh, try to
Speaker 1: keep it even with the beard. To be honest with
Speaker 1: you, you you know what I think we ought to do.
Speaker 1: You might not agree with this just because you're such
Speaker 1: a good looking, clean cut guy. Appreciate that is when
Speaker 1: the season starts, wet to wet, to trim it up,
Speaker 1: getting nice and tight, and then neither one of us
Speaker 1: touches it until either football is done for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or that championship is one. And then if that happens,
Speaker 1: we don't even shave into the next training just let
Speaker 1: it go until next training camp and then we'll just
Speaker 1: have a beer competition. Let's talk about that. We might
Speaker 1: we might do that. We'll talk about that affair that
Speaker 1: could that could be a real like a real thing. Okay, honestly,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, maybe we can get a couple other
Speaker 1: guys on the team to do it with us. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they got that type of you know,
Speaker 1: they will look as good enough maybe not talking all right, man, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for the time. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: our fans are rooting for you, man, like you know
Speaker 1: social media. You got your own little fan club. So
Speaker 1: they're loyal, man, man, they are. Yeah, So we're we're
Speaker 1: rooting for you, and I hope this is a great season.
Speaker 1: We'll get you back on the show when we get
Speaker 1: back to Frisco because I really enjoy talking to you
Speaker 1: and hanging out. We need to do it more often.
Speaker 1: I'm down, all right, down, all right. We'll come back
Speaker 1: at some point this week, next week, who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1: We'll be sitting to my left, but we'll get somebody.
Speaker 1: That's it for Shannon D. Jack Hanging with the Boys.
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