1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: to cost Am, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 17 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I hope 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: you're having a great day whatever it is you're doing. 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: I thank you for taking the time to listen to 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 3: me today. It dawned on me as I was thinking 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: about our episode that we never celebrated being five years together. 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: I was doing the math on my fingers, realizing we 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: let our fifth anniversary of Shades of the Afterlife pass 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: right by. So today, how about we do a little celebration. 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: And the way I want to do it is I 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: want to talk to you about the book I wrote, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery of life after death, 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: and share that since I wrote it so many years ago, 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: I've learned so much more. So what if I was 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: to rewrite the book and add some bonus chapters and 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: guess what, I'm going to make a commitment to you 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: today that that's what I'm going to do. So in 33 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the next couple of months, I'll have for you an updated, 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: expanded edition of We Don't Die. Why did I write 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: the book? Well, first of all, I've been a long 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: time investigator of the afterlife, just based on my own 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: fear of dying. I couldn't sleep at night knowing do 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: I go on after death? If you've been listening long enough, 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: you also know that I was very skeptical about anything 40 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: after life, even though I grew up going to Catholic 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: Church and Catholic School. I never found that faith for 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: myself that so many people had. Of course, I studied 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: major world religions that believe in the afterlife, but it 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: didn't leave me convinced there was an afterlife. It took 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: several years, but I feel like I built enough evidence 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: that made me believe. Top on that list was having 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: my own mediumistic experiences, trying to prove mediumship wasn't real, 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: only to have evidence come from my own mind and 49 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: on my own mouth about other people's loved ones. So 50 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: that started the journey. In chapter one of my book, 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: of Course, I tell about electronic voice phenomena recording the 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: sound of raindrops, only to have people talking to me. 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 3: I know we have many longtime listeners, so I don't 54 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: want to repeat too much of my story. But if 55 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: you don't have a copy of the book of Course, 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: you can have a free copy. Just go to we 57 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: Doo'tdie dot com. They're on the bottom of the page. 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Enter your name and email address, says you get the 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: first few chapters. The secret is it's the entire book. Today, 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: while we're together, I want to talk about what's in 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: the book and what else I'm going to put in 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: the updated and expanded edition for you. Even though the 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: book's gotten quite a few great reviews on Amazon, in 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: my heart, there's not enough evidence. Isn't my fault that 65 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: there's not enough evidence? No, because Sandra of thirteen years 66 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: ago only knew what she knew, and I shared everything 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: to the best of my abilities. But on this very 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: day that I'm recording with you, I've counted between the 69 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: episodes we have here of Shades of the Afterlife five 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: years worth, yes, And then also I still do my 71 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: one on one interviews on YouTube with great people about 72 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: why they believe in the afterlife. Combined, I have over 73 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: seven hundred and eighty individual episodes of reasons to believe 74 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: in the afterlife. So that's quite a few. And I'm 75 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: sure you can agree that I'm a different person today 76 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: than I was then, and so what I knew then 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: isn't what I know today, If that makes sense. Let 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: me just do a run through of what I felt 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: inspired to put in the book and why I chose 80 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: to write the book. I forgot to tell you is 81 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: after I did all that research and found great reasons 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: to believe for myself about the afterlife, I was too 83 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: afraid to tell anybody because I thought when you speak 84 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: this kind of lingo talking about life after death, talking 85 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: about guides, mediums and all that, that my family and 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: friends would disown me. And that is actually the farthest 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: thing from the truth. While some did, they honestly did 88 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: they think I'm a little bit crazy. Most people in 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: the world embraced it because we've all lost loved ones. 90 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: We all get to a point where we question our 91 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: own mortality, what comes next, And I'm so grateful to 92 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: be able to share. It wasn't until the death of 93 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: my dad that I decided to be courageous and share 94 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: what I knew. I found the heartache that comes along 95 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: with grief, and for me, even though the belief in 96 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: the afterlife didn't heal my pain, it had me I 97 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: realize what I knew about the afterlife did give me faith. 98 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: In addition, I studied so much about why we grieve, 99 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: why it hurts so bad, what can we do to 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: get through the pain. And one of the reasons I 101 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: give away my book to everybody is because chapter ten 102 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: is how to Survive Grief? Why we grieve? What happens 103 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: in the brain during grief, what's in our control, what's 104 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: out of our control? What are things we can do 105 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: to ease the pain? So I want to make sure 106 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: anyone who's experiencing grief download a copy of my book. 107 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: Please read chapter ten first, and I know it'll give 108 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: you some tools for your journey. Once I found those 109 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: tools for myself, I felt like I had a moral 110 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: responsibility to share. I wasn't yet ready to share my 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: belief in the afterlife. However, I thought if I could 112 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: share my words on grief, maybe it would help a 113 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: person or two. So I posted an audio called how 114 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: to Survive Grief on YouTube for free, and in no 115 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: time at all, several thousand people had heard it, and 116 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: not only did it help them understand grief, but many 117 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: people chose to not end their lives because of the 118 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: deep suffering they were going through. So there is the 119 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: moral responsibility. With the death of my dad, what I 120 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: knew about grief, what I knew about the afterlife, I 121 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: chose to write my book. I'm blessed that doctor Bernie 122 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Siegel wrote the forward. He's an extraordinary oncologist surgeon, and 123 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: his many books are about things like the wellness connection 124 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: we have in the healing process between patient and our body, 125 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: so that mind over matter, so to speak. His best 126 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: known book is called Love, Medicine and Miracles. My dad 127 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: was one of those miracles. He had used Bernie Siegel's 128 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: of visualization techniques when he had had cancer thirty years before. 129 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 3: He passed the cancer mysteriously and miraculously went away, leaving 130 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: my dad a real proponent to share Bernie Siegel's work 131 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: with the world and raise money for him. So I 132 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: was happy that Bernie Siegel remembered my dad and wrote 133 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: the forward. Besides my passion for sharing the reality of 134 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: the afterlife, I wanted We Don't Die the book to 135 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: be a handbook for living. Let's face it, life on 136 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Earth is very difficult, and I think it was meant 137 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: to be so. Throughout the pages, I interweave different things 138 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: about being human along with the evidence that I had 139 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: at the time for the afterlife. Some of the main 140 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: concepts I speak of in this handbook for living are 141 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: why do we come to planet Earth? What value is 142 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: it for our souls? I also talk about our skepticism 143 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: as human beings. Why is it so difficult to imagine 144 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: that we aren't just this body? That there is a 145 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: heaven or a hereafter, that our loved ones are very 146 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: much alive. I talk about the ego or the voice 147 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: that we each have that never shuts up, that tries 148 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: to convince us that the here and now is all 149 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: there is. And what is the point of that voice. 150 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: I'll just throw this in right now because I love 151 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: saying this. If we were to put a tiny camera 152 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: in one of the cells or atoms that make us up, 153 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: we are invisible vibrating energy. So as we appear real 154 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: down to our tiniest quantum particle, we are not. In fact, 155 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: everything we see is made up of the same energy 156 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: at its core, all vibrating within the same space. And 157 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: of course we're living on planet Earth, which is one 158 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: of billions and billions of planets in an ever expanding universe. 159 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: So sometimes it takes convincing that mind of ours that 160 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: there's a bigger picture in order for us to believe. 161 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: So much more on that topic in the book Yours 162 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: to read when you like, of course, I have a 163 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: chapter about the reality of life after death, and on 164 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 3: this episode I'm going to give you the new things 165 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: that I have investigated since I first wrote the book 166 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: thirteen years ago. Because, like I said, seven hundred and 167 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: eighty plus episodes later, between two podcasts, I've learned so 168 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: much more. I also talk about the world's greatest minds, 169 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: some of the people that we wouldn't think believe in 170 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: the afterlife, yet they do. I talk about the grand 171 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: illusion of life and really help readers question reality. Talk 172 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: about heaven. What is it? 173 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: Where is it? 174 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: Are we part of it? Is it somewhere beyond the clouds? 175 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: I talk about how we can slow down to whether 176 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: it's with our loved ones or I teach something called 177 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: remote viewing, which is an esp technique, believe it or not, 178 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: and why to do this. Because when you start realizing 179 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: that you can see pictures in the magazine, for instance, 180 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: before you open the magazine, or you can know what's 181 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: on your friend's dining room table two thousand miles away, 182 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: just by using the mind of yours, you realize you 183 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: can't just be your body and mind. I talk about 184 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: how to reconnect with our loved ones. But in truth, 185 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: I've learned so much more. Of course, Chapter ten is 186 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: about surviving grief, and I think there's a lot in 187 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: the book, but that chapter can set you free in 188 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: your healing process and give you some power so you 189 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: can get back to life. I talk about the genius 190 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: of our human body and what emotions are all about. 191 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: I talk about the mind, what it is, what it isn't, 192 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: and some habits to really charge your life as you 193 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: are a soul with a mind and a brain living 194 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: in a body, how we can best use it. That 195 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: is a very brief overview of what I talk about 196 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: in two hundred and sixty plus pages. But what else 197 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: is there? What didn't I know then that I know now. 198 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: I'll give you everything I can in the span of 199 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: our time together to let you know what inspires me 200 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: about life after death, what it is that keeps me 201 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: remembering that there's a bigger picture, different reasons to believe 202 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: in the afterlife, some of my favorite stories, but not 203 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: only that. What can we all do to connect with 204 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: our loved ones in the afterlife? How can we know 205 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: they're around for sure? And that it's not our imagination? 206 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: And what is our imagination? And the surprising fact of 207 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: why we do need it to connect with our loved 208 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: ones so much more. When we get back from the break, 209 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the 210 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 211 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: podcast network. 212 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: The Art Belvault never disappoints classic audio at your fingertips. 213 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: Go now to Coast Tocoast am dot com for full details. 214 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: The best afterlife information you can get. Well, you're a 215 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: long Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain. Hey everyone, 216 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: it's producer Tom of Coast to Coast AM and more. 217 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: Sandras starts right now. 218 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, 219 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: and this is our fifth anniversary celebration. So first to 220 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: shout out to you wonderful listener. Whether this is your 221 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: first episode or believe it or not, there are people 222 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: that have listened to over two hundred and sixty episodes 223 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: of Shades of the Afterlife, and so, however long you've 224 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: been on your journey, thank you. I wish I could 225 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: give you everything I have learned in the last five 226 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: years and put them maybe on one little thumb drive 227 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: or a disc, and you can download them and then 228 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: all of a sudden you know everything I know. Unfortunately 229 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: I cannot do that, and I do think part of 230 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: the journey of being human is to come up with 231 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: our own reasons to believe our own evidence. So I 232 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: can do my very best to let you know what 233 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: I have found, what others have found. But when you 234 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: start to take that dive into the things that really 235 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: interests you, wow, you can have miracles happen. When I 236 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: wrote my book We Don't Die, the biggest thing I 237 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: had experienced was evidential mediumship and electronic voice phenomena, those EVPs. 238 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: I still feel with all of my heart that every 239 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: human being should at least take one class in evidential 240 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: mediumship so that you know how our soul receives information. 241 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: We may see a medium on a demonstration, or we 242 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: might get a reading and think that they're very special 243 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: people that can connect with the other world. The truth 244 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: is we're all special. We can all have this ability, 245 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: but just like learning to play the piano, some people 246 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: are naturally gifted, but we can all practice practice practice, 247 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: So when a medium works, those in the spirit world 248 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: are actually using the memory banks and the thoughts and 249 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: feelings and maybe even sense of smell and taste of 250 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: the medium. Two of my dearest friends, Kerrie McLeod and 251 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: Philip Dike's, teach our mediumship classes online and have for 252 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: over the past five years, and I've taken enough courses 253 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: to know that although we talk about clairvoyance seeing pictures 254 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: in our minds, the best way to access the spirit 255 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: world is through our feelings. Of course, we have a 256 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: prayer or an intention talking to them. We are real 257 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: people when we migrate to the spirit world. So you 258 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: can't just demand that you get evidence. You have to say, Hey, 259 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: my name's Sandra and I'm here working with my friend John. 260 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: Here is there a person on his side that's in 261 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: the spirit world that wants to give some evidence and 262 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: to have that loving prayer. And you know what, sometimes 263 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: in big demonstrations, our loved ones might not come through, 264 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: but they may trust the medium and it might be 265 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: easier than a one on one reading. But what we 266 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: are taught is to pay attention to our feelings first. 267 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 3: One of the times I gave a reading to a 268 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: fellow student, I felt as if I was in the 269 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: hospital bed with tubes going down my throat. Now it 270 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: only happened for just a brief instance, but I felt it, 271 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: and so when I verbalized that to the partner I 272 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: was working with, they understood that I also felt like 273 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: I was a man. I felt like I was afraid 274 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: to die. In the beginning, I felt that I was 275 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: holding the hand of my partner, and as I was 276 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 3: giving this evidence, the person I was working with said yes, yes, yes. 277 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: And then I felt like I was sipping a glass 278 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 3: of wine. But not just sipping a glass of red wine. 279 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: I was on the roof of our home, on a 280 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: couch that was accessed by a ladder. Now that's pretty specific, 281 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: isn't it. And when talking to the recipient, they said 282 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: that they had built a rooftop patio that they got 283 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: to with a and they'd go up and watch the 284 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 3: stars and drink red wine. Of course, the message that 285 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: came through was that this person was still with the partner, etc. 286 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: And this is just something that happened in class. We 287 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: need to be willing to be wrong in order to 288 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: be right, and instead of looking for pictures in our mind, 289 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: we start with how our body is feeling. It's just 290 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: one of those little tidbits about being a soul having 291 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 3: a human experience. We don't just get all the universal 292 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: information when we pass away. I think we still have 293 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: to learn and investigate, but we can communicate with our 294 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: loved ones. And when we learn how mediums do what 295 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: they do, we can pay more attention to people in 296 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: our own life. It's not just evidential mediums. There's physical mediums, 297 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: trance mediums. We've talked about this on the show, but 298 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: I think a foundation for everybody would be understanding how 299 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: your mediumistic sense works and knowing that loved ones have 300 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: to communicate telepathically with the medium in order to communicate. 301 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 3: So although I did bring up mediumship and a couple 302 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: of instances that I had experienced and some mediums of 303 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: the day thirteen years ago with my book Wow, I 304 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: learned there's so much more. I did mention near death 305 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: experiences because that's something I was familiar with, but I 306 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: didn't know how deep they went. I didn't know about 307 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: i AMS, the International Association for Near Death Studies. I 308 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: knew doctor Raymond Moody's name, as he had written the 309 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: groundbreaking New York Times bestseller Life After Life, and he 310 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: had first coined the phrase fifty years ago. What I 311 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: didn't know about near death experiences or NDEs is how 312 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: common they are with people, and how most of the 313 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: NDEs have different experiences. So although we can trust NDEs 314 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: as evidence that our concent biousness survives outside of our body. 315 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 3: There are as many different experiences people have as they 316 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: have here on earth, depending on which religious affiliation you are, 317 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: or if you even are religious, you may see Jesus, 318 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: or you might see Buddha. If you don't believe in 319 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: any religious figures, maybe there'll be that all powerful, loving 320 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: light that people experience. I know NDEs are favorites of 321 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: you shades of the afterlife listeners, so you'll see. I 322 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: always try to put some stories in quite often in 323 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: different episodes. But what I didn't know thirteen years ago 324 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: is there is what's called verifiable or vertical experiences. When 325 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: someone leaves their body after death, say during a heart attack, 326 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: they flatline on the table, and they're able to not 327 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: only rise out of their body, but look down and 328 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: accurate tell the things that they experienced and what they saw. 329 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: We've had stories of people that were able to go 330 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: down a hallway in a hospital and know exactly the 331 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: different rooms, different equipment, what the doctors look like. Say 332 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: a doctor had a spaghetti sauce stain on his tie. 333 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: They saw that someone's set of dentures was dropped on 334 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: the floor during surgery. The person from floating above the body, 335 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: could see what drawer and where exactly the dentures were put. 336 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: Of course, when they came back, they got their dentures back, 337 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 3: knowing just where they were. Someone saw a shoe on 338 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: the top of a hospital, they floated not only out 339 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: of their body in the room, but they went to 340 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: the top of the hospital, and they could see what 341 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: was up there, and certainly someone went up there retrieved 342 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: the shoe, and it was all exact, of course, the 343 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: work of doctor ken Ring, who studied the near death 344 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: experiences of blind people, never having vision since birth, and 345 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: when they flatlined and their consciousness left their body, they 346 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: could accurately see things going on and hear conversations people 347 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: were having. One person witnessed from beyond a conversation their 348 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: spouse was having with the doctor bent down to the ground, 349 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: picked up the pen for the doctor. Noticed the doctor 350 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: was wearing two different color socks, and was able to 351 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: come back and give that verified information, which was correct. 352 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: Not long ago, I spoke with a lovely man who 353 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: had a near death experience. Just this past winter. He 354 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: was reunited with his three year old daughter who had 355 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: died a couple of years back. But not only reunited 356 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: with her is the family dog showed up. Now, he 357 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: thought the family dog was alive, but when he went 358 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: back home after healing from his experience, he found out 359 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: that the was very ill and had to be put 360 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: to sleep. During the time that he was in the hospital, 361 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: he couldn't have known that. And of course, the daughter 362 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: walks off with the dog, and he knew that she 363 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: and the dog were in a safe place and that 364 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: he would see them again. If you heard my recent 365 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: episode talking about doctor Bruce Grayson, I love how he 366 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: says that there's so much information in the universe, but 367 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: our brains can only pick up so much while we're 368 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: here being human, almost like it's a funnel we funnel out. 369 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: We pay attention to what'sever important to us, and we 370 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: can't possibly conceive all the information. He said, If we 371 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: look at our telephone, it can bring through the voice 372 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 3: of someone, but our telephone is not our loved one, 373 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: just like our bodies are not us. That there is 374 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: a intelligence behind each and every one of us. And 375 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: just because our bodies die, just like if we change 376 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: and get a new cell phone, doesn't mean the voice 377 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: stops talking or the voice ceases to exist. So I'm 378 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: a big fan of near death experiences too, and I 379 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: always enjoy hearing them and sharing them. There's the world 380 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: of shared death experiences too. This is when someone alive 381 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 3: can actually witness or almost piggyback on the experience the 382 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: loved one is having, being called to the light, seeing 383 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: relatives that are deceased, hearing beautiful music, feeling that love, 384 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: but they can only get so far. There's also the 385 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: shared death experiences that you know when a person dies, 386 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: even if you're not around them. In the middle of 387 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 3: the night, you wake up and you just had a 388 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: dream with someone you know to be alive. You look 389 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: at the clock and it's eleven eleven, and you find 390 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: out the next day that that's the precise time your 391 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: loved one passed away. There's a whole world to explore 392 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 3: in near death experiences and shared death experiences. And so 393 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: when I update my expanded edition, if we don't die, 394 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: you bet there's going to be a lot of stories. 395 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: When I was a skeptic, I really believe that near 396 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: death experiences were just a part of a brain shutting down. 397 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: But science and medicine have proven that that is not 398 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: the case. Some scientists are not open to discuss what 399 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: they think it is because they don't know, but they 400 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: do know for sure. There's no way people can get 401 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: this verifiable information out of the blue, that our consciousness 402 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: is not located in the mind. Going along too, with 403 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: terminal lucidity. Just before someone passes, even if they are 404 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: close to brain dead, all of their memories can be 405 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: restored and they can have lucid conversations with people. Oh 406 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: look at the time, Time for the break, and we'll 407 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: be back with more reasons to believe in the afterlife. 408 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 409 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 410 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. 411 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up, hey, folks. 412 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: It's easier than ever to become a Coast to Coast 413 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: AM insider and have access to past shows the Artbell 414 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: Vault with classic audio and interviews and so much more. 415 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: And you can listen to the show live or on 416 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: demand with your computer or cell phone, and the audio 417 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: streams are high quality and crystal clear. It's easy to 418 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: become an insider. Just head on over to Coast tocoastam 419 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: dot com. The website and you'll find all the info 420 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: right there. That's Coast tocoastam dot com. Coast to Coast 421 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: am dot com. 422 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren 423 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: and now here's more Shades of the Afterlife. 424 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 425 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: and I'm giggling to myself because here on our fifth 426 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: anniversary edition, I wanted to give you some things that 427 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: I didn't have in my book. We Don't Die about 428 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: reasons to believe in the Afterlife. So here I am 429 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: going through over two hundred and sixty episodes of Shades 430 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife, and there's so much more that I 431 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: could possibly say. There's no way I'm going to squeeze 432 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: it all into one episode. And of course I can't 433 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: get all these stories into one book. It would take 434 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: somebody two hundred and sixty hours to read or listen 435 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: to an audiobook. So I'll just do the best I can, 436 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: and I promise you I'll put the best stories into 437 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: the updated edition of the book. There's some reasons to 438 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: believe in the afterlife that I'm not consistently participating in. 439 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: One is instrumental trans communication, that is recording voices through EVP, 440 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: also through scientists and researchers, not only capturing voices from 441 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: the other side, but capturing images. There's different pioneers including 442 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: Sonia and Aaldi who can record, for example, static and 443 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: then when she goes through the frames of the recording, 444 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: people's faces show up there. Now we're not talking about 445 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: vague faces. We're talking about in color, clear faces of 446 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: loved ones and pictures that people don't have from when 447 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: they were alive. We have that documentary on her on 448 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: my website. PS. We have a new film coming out 449 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: called Evidence of the Afterlife Saving Evidential Mediumship in the 450 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: next couple of months. I'll let you know when that 451 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: comes out. I think the favorite topic I have to 452 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: research personally are deathbed visions. These are when someone is 453 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: just about to pass away and lo and behold they 454 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: see their mom, their dad, their childhood pet, friends they 455 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: had when they were younger. I can't get enough of 456 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: these stories personally. It shows me the intelligence of the 457 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: universe that no one dies alone. Some of the best 458 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: work is Christopher Kerr, who is a hospice doctor in 459 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: palliative care Buffalo. He's got a YouTube channel with lots 460 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: of videos, and he has a book out called Death 461 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: Is But a Dream where he researched over sixteen hundred 462 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: or seventeen hundred people and they're dying days, hours, months 463 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: prior to their p and our loved ones come to 464 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: us looking young and healthy, most of the time, letting 465 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: us know get ready, we're going on a trip. What 466 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 3: I think is so spectacular about this is this is 467 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: not a byproduct of any drugs that people may be on. 468 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: In fact, if they are on painkillers and such, they 469 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: don't talk about these deathbed visions. These are people who 470 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: are lucid up until the time of their passing. They 471 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: clearly see loved ones coming from the other world as 472 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: clear as they might see you or another family member 473 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: by their bedside. These deathbed visions also have verified deathbed visions, 474 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: meaning people can know and see deceased people that they 475 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: didn't know or dead. For instance, a gentleman that I 476 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: knew who passed a few years ago. He was a 477 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: hospice chaplain, and he said when his dad was close 478 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: to the end of his death, first of all, he 479 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: had one of these terminal lucidity moments. He had been 480 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: in a coma, hadn't spoken in months. All of a 481 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: sudden he sprang to life, and he was connected to 482 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: tubes and everything, but he tried to swing his legs 483 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: over the side of the bed and get up, and 484 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: he's got a big smile on his face, and he's 485 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: looking out into the heavens. I guess. Of course, the 486 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: doctors came rushing in. The adult children were there and 487 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: wanted to know what he saw. And he was talking 488 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: about how beautiful the afterlife was, all the people that 489 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: he saw there, how young and healthy they looked, and 490 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: even one of his good friends. Now here's the thing. 491 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: He didn't know his friend had died, but he had 492 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: died a couple months earlier when the dad was sick 493 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: and no one had told the father that his friend 494 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: had died. He got the message that he had a 495 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: week or two left to live, to do the things 496 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: that were important to him with his body before he 497 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: would be taken home. And he wanted to have a 498 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: cherry pie, hot funge Sunday, wear a suit, be with 499 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: his kids watching his favorite football team. And he did 500 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: all of those things, and he passed away on a 501 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: Christmas Eve. I always encourage you if there's a topic 502 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: that you're interested in, see what you can find on YouTube. 503 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: For instance, if you type in deathbed visitations on YouTube, 504 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: you'll see stories from hospice nurses, doctors, and other people. 505 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: And in the comments, so many people share their families experiences. 506 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: They're just amazing. Same thing goes for near death experiences 507 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: and signs from loved ones, you name it. If it's 508 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: a reason to believe in the afterlife, there's plenty of 509 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: people talking about it. And there's some regular, everyday people 510 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: that might not have a book or they might not 511 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: have a podcast, but they've got stories of why they believe. 512 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: So always check out the comments in those YouTube videos. 513 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: But for me, those are some of the most reassuring stories. 514 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: That nobody dies alone, and even if the person is 515 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: a hardcore atheist, there's so many stories of their loved 516 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: ones coming to visit and they never believed in this. 517 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: This year brought me a big experience being introduced to 518 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: doctor Tom Nimi and his work with induced after death 519 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: communication therapy. Now, this is therapy. This is not like 520 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: paying for a medium for an hour and getting a reading. 521 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: This is for those who are deeply grieving, and although 522 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: it's called induced after death Communication therapy. It is a 523 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: grief therapy. However, over seventy five percent of the people 524 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: who have this therapy have a direct experience of being 525 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: with their deceased loved one. Tom the author of the 526 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: book Inspired Life, Beautiful Death, is a psychologist and first 527 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: heard about IADC therapy on an earlier episode of my podcast. 528 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: When things sound too good to be true, you know 529 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: sometimes they are. However, doctor Tom had to do the 530 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: research because if there is a method that can help 531 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: the grieving, he wanted to do it. Not only did 532 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: he find out it is real and a wonderful way 533 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: to help those in pain, he did a long distance 534 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: therapy session with myself that gave me unexpected results. First 535 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: discovered by a doctor Alan Botkin, IADC therapy can be difficult. 536 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: You recall some of the deepest, saddest, painful memories thinking 537 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: of your loved one, lots of tears involved, but at 538 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: the same time doing what's called EMDR which is a 539 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: series of eye movements or tapping at the same time 540 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 3: you are reliving these memories. If you go back to 541 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: episodes two thirty one and two thirty two, I believe 542 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: you can hear my experience and also my interview with 543 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: Tom about it. Although the therapy isn't easy, after a 544 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 3: certain amount of time doing the eye movements or the tapping, 545 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: the emotion is no longer connected to the memory of 546 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: your loved one. So that's how you can release the 547 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: grief in a wonderful way. And as a byproduct, you 548 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: can have an experience with your loved one, feeling their presence, 549 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: seeing them And for me, I had the experience of 550 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 3: not only my dad, but my loved ones in the 551 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: room with me and seeing a slideshow of who they 552 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: all were, and of course they looked young and healthy. 553 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 3: And the beauty of this therapy is it can be 554 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: done on zoom. You don't need to be in person 555 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 3: with the therapist. When I update the book, I will 556 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 3: also put in the worlds of dreaming, how our loved 557 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: ones can communicate with us through dreams through what's called 558 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 3: automatic writing. I'll include stories of pets, because you better 559 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: believe it, our pets go on to live in the 560 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: afterlife and we will be there with them as well. 561 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 3: There's a whole world of signs from our loved ones, 562 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: and some of the signs are just too obvious to 563 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: ignore synchronicities. Things happen out of the blue and you 564 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 3: attribute them to your loved ones, or could be a 565 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: bird or an animal that comes by, but you could 566 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: smell their cologne or pipe that they smoke. You can 567 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: actually feel their presence. You can hear their voice. Some 568 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 3: people find feathers other signs through nature. We can feel 569 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: their touch. Sometimes you might feel your partner laying right 570 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: there in the bed, or even a dog or cat 571 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: puzzling up against you. So the physical touch is there. 572 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: There's objects in the house that move, lending towards physical 573 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: signs that happen. Now we're living in a time of technology, 574 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: so there have been signs of lights going on and off, 575 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: smoke detectors going off in weird ways, people receiving text 576 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 3: messages and emails from loved ones unexplainably long after they 577 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: pass something comes from their email address with the perfect message. 578 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 3: There are many books and many discussions we've had in 579 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 3: the past about after death communications, and there are plenty 580 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: of times where people have felt the presence of their 581 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: loved one. They've seen their loved one many times out 582 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 3: of the corner of their eye, or they might see 583 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 3: them coming out of a dream, waking up in the morning, 584 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: they feel their presence. I'm not the only one investigating this. 585 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: In fact, on the two hundred and sixty plus episodes, 586 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 3: every time we talk on one of these topics, we 587 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 3: often speak to someone who is an expert in the 588 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: field or hasn't written a book on these various ways 589 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: of communication. I am completely of the belief that heaven 590 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: or the afterlife isn't out there somewhere, that we are 591 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 3: vibrating in the same reality that they are. If you 592 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 3: wave your hand really fast in front of your face, 593 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: it seems to disappear. Our loved ones. Just because their 594 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 3: human energy is gone doesn't mean they don't continue to 595 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 3: live on. When we can quiet our busy mind, that 596 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: is one of the access ways to connect with them, 597 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 3: which is what we're going to do when we get 598 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 3: back from the break. I'd like to talk about different 599 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 3: ways that we can connect with our loved ones so 600 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: that we can have some confirmation for ourselves that they 601 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: live on. As I speak about energy, two or more 602 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: forms of energy can live at the same place at 603 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: the same time, just like you're probably connected to wireless 604 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: internet right now, or you're hearing radio waves, television waves 605 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: are around you, GPS signals so much invisible energy is 606 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: real even if we can't see it. The afterlife is real. 607 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: You will see your loved ones again. Your life is 608 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: for a reason, and we'll be right back. You are 609 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 610 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 611 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: More if Sandra's coming up just around the corner. 612 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, make. 613 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: Sure and check out all the shows on the iHeartRadio 614 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 615 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: Take us with you anywhere. 616 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 4: This is the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 617 00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 4: Podcast Network. 618 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 5: Are you looking for that certain someone who shares your 619 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 5: interests in UFOs, ghosts, Bigfoot, conspiracy theories, and the paranormal, Well, 620 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: look no further than paranormal date dot com, the unique 621 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 5: site for like minded people. If you like the senior crowd, 622 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 5: try paranormal date dot com slash seniors to meet like 623 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 5: minded people that are sixty plus. It all depends on 624 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: what you prefer. Paranormal Date dot com is great for everyone. 625 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 5: You can also tap into members that are sixty plus 626 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 5: at Paranormal Date dot com slash seniors. Enjoy your search 627 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 5: and have some fun at Paranormal Date dot com. 628 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 629 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 3: and we've actually just completed five years to go of 630 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife. A shout out to our friends 631 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: at iHeartRadio and also my good friend Tom dan Heiser, 632 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 3: producer of the show and producer of Coast to Coast 633 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 3: A m with the wonderful George Nori. At the beginning, 634 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 3: I told you something about imagination. We human beings think 635 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: because we imagine something, we make it up sometimes, of course, 636 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 3: but not in relation to connecting with those in the afterlife. 637 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 3: If you would imagine being in the spirit world right now. 638 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: We've heard countless stories that we communicate with our thoughts. 639 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 3: These are all generated in our mind. So there you 640 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: are sitting by a river in the spirit world, loving life. 641 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: All is well, You feel like a hot fudge Sunday. 642 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 3: You open your hand, Do you imagine it there? It 643 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 3: is sounds pretty great, right. You want to travel to 644 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: the Grand Canyon, or to the Eiffel Tower, or some 645 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 3: outer space even and you think it and you are there. 646 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 3: When our loved ones communicate with us from the other side. 647 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: They are using their thoughts to direct their energy to 648 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 3: make things happen, to make mediums see them or hear them, 649 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: to make lights go on and off if they can 650 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: do that, or TV go on and off, or any 651 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: of those different signs. It all happens through the mind. 652 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: Now I'm not talking about the brain. The brain is 653 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: different from our mind. Our mind goes on, so we 654 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: with our human minds are connected and will be connected 655 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: because that mind comes with us after passing. So I 656 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 3: always say it's important to engage our creativity, our imagination, 657 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: and that strengthens our ability to communicate. So how do 658 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: we ask for signs from our loved ones. That's just it. 659 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 3: Ask for them. There's something specific you would like to 660 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: see from your loved one to let them know they 661 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: are around, ask for it. Keep in mind, we are 662 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: still us when we go to the other world. So 663 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: if I ask my ninety one year old grandmother to 664 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 3: send me a text message, it may not happen. She 665 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: didn't do text messaging. Plus, I do think it's hard 666 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: for those on the other side to work with technology. 667 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: The more younger people that are familiar with it that 668 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 3: get over there. I think the more we're going to 669 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 3: find some of these signs through technology, but they do happen. 670 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: So if you're thinking of a purple dinosaur, put that 671 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: out to your loved one and then let it go. 672 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: Do not look every hour for the purple dinosaur. Just 673 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: pay attention in the next week or two. Keep a 674 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 3: journal of signs that come through synchronicities. Times that a 675 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 3: song will come on the radio that was your song 676 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: or had just the right message for you. Our human 677 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: minds want to tell us that this is just our imagination, 678 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 3: that we are making it up, that we are a 679 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 3: product of this earth, and the afterlife cannot be real. 680 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: So again, remember you are on a planet hurling around 681 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 3: a ever expanding universe, and down to your tiniest fragment, 682 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: you are invisible, vibrating energy. Sometimes we need to remind 683 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 3: ourselves of that. We can also do what's called automatic writing. 684 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: Get a pen, get a journal, Talk to your loved 685 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 3: one and write to them, and then say, if you 686 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 3: were to write back to me, what would you say. 687 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: Quite your mind just a bit and let the pen flow. 688 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 3: Whatever thoughts come to mind. Just write them down, don't 689 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: edit them. Don't think, oh, this is crazy. Here's the thing. 690 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 3: In time, your loved one can get practice knowing that 691 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: you wish to communicate this way. In the beginning, it 692 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 3: could be ninety nine percent you and one percent their influence. 693 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: But in time they can influence your thoughts which will 694 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 3: lead to what comes out of your handwriting. Or you 695 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: can do this on the computer as well. Psychologist doctor 696 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: Matthew McKay didn't believe in any of this, and he 697 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 3: now talks about how he communicates with his son in 698 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 3: spirit the very same way. Steven Simon, director and producer 699 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 3: of the film What Dreams May Come with Robin Williams, 700 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 3: he communicates with his wife this very same way as well. 701 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the dream world. When we dream of 702 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 3: our loved one and we wake up that it was 703 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: real and it was loving, that is a dream visitation. 704 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 3: When our dreams are all over the place and disturbing, 705 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 3: and our loved one might make a guest appearance but 706 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,760 Speaker 3: didn't feel good, that is our subconscious when we sleep 707 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 3: at night, I am can vince those dreams are like 708 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: a bilge pump going through some of our experiences and memories, 709 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 3: and they're just out of control and they are very weird. 710 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 3: But we do get guest appearances by our loved ones 711 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 3: that make it feel like it was not a dream, 712 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 3: so look for those loving instances. On a past episode, 713 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 3: I also spoke about lucid dreaming. This is when you 714 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 3: wake up or set an alarm for say two or 715 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 3: three in the morning, and then you go back to sleep. 716 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: You are in a different dream state. And if you 717 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 3: can practice during the day doing something such as paying 718 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 3: attention to your hand, looking at your hand, saying oh, 719 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 3: I see my hand, I see my hand, I see 720 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 3: my hand, get your subconscious use to looking at your 721 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 3: hand when you go back to bed. For lucid dreaming, 722 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 3: you're in a different kind of a dream state, and 723 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 3: you may say, oh, let me look at my hand. 724 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 3: When you look at your hand, you might have six 725 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: or seven fingers. You'll realize you're in a dream and 726 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 3: you can ask your loved one to come visit you. There. 727 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 3: There has been verifiable information that's come through lucid dreaming 728 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 3: from loved ones. Some yes, could be our imagination, but 729 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: in lucid dreaming, I've actually spoken to my dad, I 730 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: felt his hug, and there is no one who can 731 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 3: tell me that that was just my imagination and that 732 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 3: was my dad. If you're interested, you can try electronic 733 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 3: voice phenomena. It is laboursome and it takes practice listening 734 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 3: to recordings talking to your loved one. Sometimes you have 735 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: to loop the sounds over and over and over again. 736 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 3: But there's many experts, including doctor Sherry Pearl. We've talked 737 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 3: to Sonya Andaldi. There's different ways to do it, and 738 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: if that's something that interests you, you never know what 739 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 3: your loved ones may say. It's a fun thing to explore, 740 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 3: for sure. Some people use a pendulum with a circle 741 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 3: that's got the letters of the alphabet on it. They 742 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 3: hold the pendulum over it. They can also have yes 743 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 3: and no on there as well. They talk to their 744 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: loved one and they see and watch how their loved 745 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 3: one may spell out different things. Now, is it your 746 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: loved one spelling it out? I honestly think that they 747 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: influence our thoughts, maybe subconsciously, and that we may be 748 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 3: doing the little movements to point to the different letters 749 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 3: or yes or no. We can ask our loved ones 750 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 3: to step close to us. Maybe you're at the kitchen 751 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 3: table and close your eyes and just ask them to 752 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 3: step close. Now. Depending on the relationship, you might want 753 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: to have them touch your arm or kiss you on 754 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 3: the cheek, and just pay attention to those gentle energy shifts. 755 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes you get the goosebumps. Sometimes you might just feel 756 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 3: them around. Now again, I have to tell you they're 757 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 3: still them, So they need to want to participate in this. 758 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 3: But keep talking to them. Journal it let them know 759 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 3: what's working, what isn't working. That's a way to communicate. 760 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 3: On many Mondays, where with trance medium Scott Milligan for 761 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 3: a class called Trance in the Altered States, it's just 762 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 3: an opportunity to learn how to slow down that very 763 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 3: busy mind, which is crucial for being in the present moment. 764 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: It helps build our own personal soul power. It helps 765 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 3: with healing, but it also helps those in the other 766 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 3: side of life to work with us. It helps mediums 767 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 3: become better mediums. It helps us feel that gentle, loving 768 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 3: presence in our busy lives. It would take maybe a 769 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: bolt of lightning to break me out of everything that 770 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing on the computer, listening for the text messages. 771 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 3: Mom's calling me in the other room, she's got the 772 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: TV on. I'm thinking about what we're going to cook 773 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 3: for dinner. All these things are happening, it'll be nearly 774 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 3: impossible for a loved one to get through. But when 775 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 3: we can practice quieting our mind, practice talking to them, 776 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 3: they have an opportunity to let us know that they're 777 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 3: still with us. So Scott calls it the tingles. We 778 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 3: ask them to step close and just feel maybe the 779 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 3: goosebumps or just a gentle shift and energy. One of 780 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 3: my most favorite ways is simply talking to them and 781 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 3: having some memories of really good times that we had together, 782 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 3: taking a walk down memory lane in my mind, recalling 783 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 3: the love, the joy, the laughter, whatever it is, and 784 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 3: then asking them, can you be in touch? Can you 785 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 3: show me some signs? Can you talk to me? And 786 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 3: then be present in your life whatever it is you're doing, 787 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 3: be fully there in the moment. Sometimes, when I'm editing 788 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 3: these episodes for you, my former boyfriend Michael, who has passed, 789 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: will all of a sudden, out of the blue imprint 790 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 3: a memory of a vacation we took together, or some 791 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 3: meal that he cooked for me. It comes out of 792 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: the Those are just little calling cards from them saying 793 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm right here with you. We can include them in 794 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 3: our holiday times, but just be aware. Part of being 795 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: human is that little voice inside of our heads that says, 796 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 3: this can't be real. I must be making this up. 797 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 3: That's our ego and that is part of being human. 798 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 3: We can't get rid of it, but we can remind 799 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 3: ourselves that the afterlife is real and our loved ones 800 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 3: are with us. The two practices that I love most, 801 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 3: besides obviously taking a medium class where you are actively 802 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 3: working with your loved ones and bringing through messages in 803 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 3: the safety of an online classroom, is on Fridays we 804 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 3: offer that in the Arms of Eternity with Scott Milligan, 805 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 3: and on those occasions we get to talk to a 806 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 3: member of the spirit world and ask questions. It really 807 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 3: reminds me of such a bigger picture going on and 808 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 3: that we are always loved and always supported. And the 809 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 3: other thing is on Sundays we have that free Sunday gathering. Yes, 810 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: it's an inspirational service on Zoom, but half of it, 811 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: at least forty five or fifty minutes, is a medium 812 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 3: demonstration and loved ones come through from all over the 813 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 3: world for people, and it's so special to me. There's 814 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 3: not going to be anyone on this planet that can 815 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 3: convince me that the afterlife isn't real, that our loved 816 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: ones aren't still alive, and that we won't see them again. 817 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 3: They are alive. We'll see them again. They're part of 818 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 3: our life. Love is real. You are an eternal soul 819 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 3: having a human experience. So with that, come join me 820 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 3: sometime at one of our events we Don't Die dot Com. 821 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: I'd love to meet you. From the bottom of my heart. 822 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode or for the 823 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 3: past five years. I'm Sandra Champlain. You are loved and 824 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 3: thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 825 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 826 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: And if you like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 827 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 2: wait until you hear the next one. Thank you for 828 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 2: listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 829 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 2: Podcast Network.