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<v Speaker 2>Welcome in watch Driving the Great Episode two twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>and First in Pod episode I'm Gonna Guess sixty four? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so alongside me if you're watching on YouTube is Danny

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<v Speaker 2>Parkins from The Score in Chicago, Andrew Philipponi from ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three seven to the Fan in Pittsburgh, who also hosts

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<v Speaker 2>the First In Pod podcast, And you might be listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this on the First in Pod podcast feed. If

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<v Speaker 2>you are and you don't know who I am, my

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<v Speaker 2>name is Nick Wright. I host What's Right with Nick Wright,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what you're watching on YouTube now potentially and

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<v Speaker 2>also First Things First on FS one. So these gentlemen

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<v Speaker 2>were at this bougie radio conference yesterday hobnobbing with radio celebrities.

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<v Speaker 2>I was involved as well because my roots are radio.

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<v Speaker 2>These gentlemen also are gonna be on First Things First

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<v Speaker 2>today and so we are doing our first ever What's

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<v Speaker 2>Right with Nick Wright First and Pod crossover episode. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give the audience a little recap of what First

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<v Speaker 2>In Pod is. During the NFL season, they do two

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<v Speaker 2>pods a week. The kind of catch line is every team,

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<v Speaker 2>every week, every game, every team every week, every team

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<v Speaker 2>every week, every game. They run through the entire league. So,

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<v Speaker 2>with free agency kind of coming to a close, not

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<v Speaker 2>done yet, but the you know, the first week is over,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to do that same thing here where

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<v Speaker 2>we will touch on all thirty two teams, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>in order of importance, but in order it occurred to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Danny Andrew, thank you for joining us, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for having me on the First In Pod feed,

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<v Speaker 2>which people should subscribe to. As I've told the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my favorite weekly NFL pod during the off season's

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<v Speaker 2>weekly during the season. Twice a week. Gentlemen, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great man, thank you for having us. I love

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<v Speaker 3>this crossover idea. Yeah, it's like sharing the work burden.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say it made up my life a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier this week, all right, So what I care about?

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<v Speaker 2>As we were on our way home from quite an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting dinner that Andrew Philipponi set up with maybe America's

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<v Speaker 2>most prominent local talk radio host, Greg Gianatti, who had

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<v Speaker 2>just takes on takes on takes. I thought we were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get thrown out of mister Chiles, my guy g

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<v Speaker 2>O and Egan. I'm fine with him saying this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think had eleven Greg Goo so is with a splash

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<v Speaker 2>of kran. The splash of kran felt unnecessary, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know when you're going a dozen drinks in. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a good night. On the way back from that,

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<v Speaker 2>we found out that Keenan Allen had been traded to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears, which we'll get to in a moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the Chiefs perfect offseason continues. Hollywood Brown, who listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to overstate it because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Brown is a great player. I think he has

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of potential and high upside, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>at worst the third best wide receiver that could be

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<v Speaker 2>available in this free agency. Tell me if you disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Evans, Michael Pittman, Hollywood Brown were the top three?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there? You forgot Calvin Ridley? So okay.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make a Darnell Mooney argument, like if Mooney

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<v Speaker 3>went to the Chiefs, I think he would put up

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<v Speaker 3>really good numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I think Hollywood Brown's better than Darnell Mooney. Ridley,

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, I did leave him out, and so all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so top four. The distinction is, of course, the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>got him for one year, seven million bucks, which is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is this is the benefit to being the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that's I know people are irritated hearing it.

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<v Speaker 2>There is. It is the opposite of a bad team tax.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the great quarterback, compete for a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>try to rebuild my value discount. So while Chris Jones

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<v Speaker 2>did not give them a hometown discount, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>one year seven million, I think, let me ask you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>this are the Chiefs the only team in the league

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<v Speaker 2>that Hollywood Brown would play for for this contract one year,

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<v Speaker 2>seven million bucks. It can be eleven million if he

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<v Speaker 2>hits all his incentives. Is there another team in the

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<v Speaker 2>league that he would agree to that contract for, because

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<v Speaker 2>I say no, probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, going to a high volume passing offense

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<v Speaker 3>with a guy who's gonna throw the ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred and six hundred times. You know, Buffalo would

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting. Cincinnati would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But Cincinnati the Higgins is going to play on the

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<v Speaker 2>franchise tag.

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<v Speaker 3>There though no question about it. But I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like going going to it's an elite quarterback thing. If

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to sign a one year deal and for

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<v Speaker 3>the Chiefs, I agree with you. There's no bad one

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<v Speaker 3>year deal in the NFL. You just would go. He

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<v Speaker 3>would rank it Chiefs. And then after that some of

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<v Speaker 3>the teams that I mentioned. So you want to go,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to go to the best quarterbacks possible.

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<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned Buffalo. Do we think Curtis Samuel is

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<v Speaker 2>a better player than Hollywood Brown?

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<v Speaker 3>Better?

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<v Speaker 2>Equivalent worse? I would say a touch worse. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I would say. Yeah, Curtis Samuel is just signed

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<v Speaker 2>with Buffalo for three years, twenty four million, fifteen million guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 2>Point that I'm making there is. I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>are giving Buffalo. I don't think there is a Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen Buffalo Bill's discount. I don't think they've earned like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I think that people are excited to

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<v Speaker 2>play with him, and I think there is. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes it an attractive place. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that they got Curtis Samuel on a bargain. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that is kind of paying one hundred cents on

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<v Speaker 2>the dollar for a player of Curtis's caliber, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that is not an expensive contract, but two three year

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<v Speaker 2>deal where the first two years are guaranteed. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that this means Hollywood Brown as a Chief

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<v Speaker 2>in two years, but it means that they now and

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<v Speaker 2>this is why I think it's such an important move,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we can move on. The Chiefs because of

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<v Speaker 2>this move, don't have any position they must use the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty second pick on. If they had signed no receivers,

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<v Speaker 2>then you almost are mandated to use that pick, the

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<v Speaker 2>thirty second pick on a wide receiver. Now, pony, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they could draft the tackle there. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>could draft the receiver there. I also think they could

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<v Speaker 2>draft a d tackle or a corner there, the corner

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<v Speaker 2>because they think they're gonna lose need detackle because they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't drafted any d tackles since my home has been

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<v Speaker 2>drafted in the first five rounds, and Chris Jones getting

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<v Speaker 2>older even with the extension. Truly, I know it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>gluche They truly can just go best player available for me,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't look at Brown as the type of move

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<v Speaker 4>that changes how I feel about them if they if

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<v Speaker 4>they don't make the Brown signing, I still think they're

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<v Speaker 4>the best team in the NFL. Right But so here's

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<v Speaker 4>but here's what I want to ask you. So you

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<v Speaker 4>said it's been the perfect offseason for them so far.

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<v Speaker 4>What what has to happen with Snead to keep that going?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think that right now it's six one a

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<v Speaker 2>half dozen the other I think that they've made it

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<v Speaker 2>clear they are not trading him for anything worse than

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<v Speaker 2>a top forty pick. Do you think they will at

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<v Speaker 2>this point? I do not.

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<v Speaker 4>You think he'll play on the tag, yes, so, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that it won't be a distraction about it. He'll

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<v Speaker 4>show up the first week. There's no hold in, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no Chris Jones carried into the season. He's a good song,

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<v Speaker 4>He's going for a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, I don't know that he'll show up

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<v Speaker 2>when you say first week of the offseason. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that, but I do. I think he would miss

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<v Speaker 2>a game. No, because the thing that distinction between Sneid

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<v Speaker 2>and Chris Jones was Chris Jones was finishing his second

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<v Speaker 2>contract after being I think a second second round pick,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was on a four year, eighty million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>in the last year of it. Sneid was a fourth

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<v Speaker 2>round pick who's never made any money. And listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>love Sneid and I hope at some point he gets paid,

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<v Speaker 2>either by the Chiefs or by someone else. But this

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<v Speaker 2>one year, twenty million dollar franchise tag is four x

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<v Speaker 2>what he has made cumulatively in his career. Every game

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<v Speaker 2>he plays under the tag, he makes more money than

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<v Speaker 2>he had made in any year of the NFL. So

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<v Speaker 2>him missing a game I don't think is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there was I had hope is the wrong word,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm fine with him playing on the tag. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Detroit at twenty nine was I thought that made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense for both teams. But when Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>then trades for Carlton Davis, to me, it makes it

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<v Speaker 2>less likely and they become more likely they're gonna use

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty nine picked a trade for someone that T Higgins,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, the other franchise tag option

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<v Speaker 2>is more likely. Okay, that's enough Chiefs here, because again

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<v Speaker 2>that while this is what's right, it's also first in pod. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Danny to your team.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're talking about an NFC powerhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's goot, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, they had all this cap space, they

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<v Speaker 3>the third most cap position of any team in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>and the moves that they made were seemingly like they

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<v Speaker 3>were you know, secondary or tertiary players. Kevin Byerd free safety,

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<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Swift running back, trade for Ryan Bates, sixth offensive linemen,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe potential starter Simone Biles's husband, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it was like, what what are they waiting for?

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<v Speaker 3>What are they going to use the money on? They

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<v Speaker 3>need to upgrade? They had needed Ed Rusher. People thought

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<v Speaker 3>danil Hunter. They still could use an Elite three three tech.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking Christian Wilkins was a possibility. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>why you got to be patient, and you got to

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<v Speaker 3>not only know your own roster, I got to know

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the league. A fourth round pick for

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<v Speaker 3>one year of Keenan Allen, who yes, will be thirty

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<v Speaker 3>two by the time the season starts, and he missed

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<v Speaker 3>four games this past year. In the thirteen games that

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<v Speaker 3>he played, he was simply excellent. He's a six time

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<v Speaker 3>pro bowler. And now that offense with Dj Moore, Keenan

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<v Speaker 3>Allen cole comet assume to be significant upgrade at quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>with Kleb Williams and whatever they choose to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the ninth pick, whether it is an edge rusher, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's trade down a little bit and target Rock Boers

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<v Speaker 3>or if a Doomsay or somehow Malik Neighbors falls, truly

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<v Speaker 3>investing and turning them into arguably the best receiving core

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. If you had a first round pick

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<v Speaker 3>receiver at nine. The Bears are stacked to have the

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<v Speaker 3>best offense that they've had in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you think, seriously, well, you just don't see

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<v Speaker 4>teams who are going to start a rookie quarterback make

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<v Speaker 4>one year short term invest in this moment, the right

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<v Speaker 4>now moves like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think the investment is more the money

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<v Speaker 2>or theft pick they gave up.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm saying you're making a deal for Keenan Allen

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<v Speaker 4>with no expectation or guarantee that he's gonna be with

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<v Speaker 4>you beyond Caleb Williams first rookie year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know yet. Like they could rework the

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<v Speaker 3>contract and sign them to an extension to lower the

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<v Speaker 3>cap hit for this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think that would be a mistake. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the cause. So I agree with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Danny's optimism on the Bears, a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that division, while the Packers are good

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<v Speaker 2>and the Lions are very good, the division doesn't have it,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, a juggernaut. The NFC obviously is the

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<v Speaker 2>weaker of the two conferences, and the Bears won seven

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<v Speaker 2>games last year. People have to be reminded constantly they

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<v Speaker 2>have the number one pick because Carolina was terrible, not

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<v Speaker 2>because they were terrible. Where the trepidation comes in is

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<v Speaker 2>the exercise we did yesterday, you know, around midnight when

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<v Speaker 2>we got back to my house, which was thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>year old receivers in the league last year. I just

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<v Speaker 2>threw it out there and I said, how many do

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<v Speaker 2>we think had five hundred yards? And the answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that question ended up being Adam Thielen, who had one

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<v Speaker 2>thousand yards. And that's it. The thirty two plus year

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<v Speaker 2>old receivers last year were the following people. Marquis Goodwin

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven yards, Marvin Jones thirty five yards, Randall Cobb

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine yards, Adam Thielen, who I mentioned, Julio Jones

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four yards. And that's the list. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>concern is that, you know what I mean that that position,

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<v Speaker 2>that age, what is he going to have left? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind, but I say all that to say this,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not an extension. If they give him an

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<v Speaker 2>extension reworked the deal, I will feel differently. Andrew for

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<v Speaker 2>one year, I don't mind it. Andrews, support Caleb as

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<v Speaker 2>much as possible and give him the best thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just surprised that a team that isn't closer to

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<v Speaker 4>winning didn't try to make a one year deal work

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<v Speaker 4>with Alan.

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<v Speaker 3>That's but it takes a unique set of circumstance because

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<v Speaker 3>of his cap had You gotta have the cap space.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chargers asked him to restructure the money down to

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<v Speaker 3>help them out. He said no, they traded him. So

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm with you on the thirty two year

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<v Speaker 3>old things just real quick. Twelve hundred yards, one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eight catches and seven touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think his game, I think his style of

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<v Speaker 4>play age as well. He's not a guy that to

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<v Speaker 4>me is like he needs to be a physical freak

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, speed merchant in order to make plays.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's a technician, right. He oddly has like some

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Kelcey similarities to him, and Kelsey is thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>and had a great almost at that.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, he's like a souped up version of Keenan McCardell,

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<v Speaker 4>who played into his thirties and had that same style

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<v Speaker 4>of play. Let me ask you this, though, you said

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<v Speaker 4>that this is a unique situation. The ceiling for rookie

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback situations in terms of how far you can go

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<v Speaker 4>with them, would be a championship game, right, conference championship game.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Flacco, Baltimore Sanchez, New York, Purty, San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 2>How far away from like.

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<v Speaker 4>You say, this is a you know, unbelievable a quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>a rookie quarterback is not do you think that that's

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<v Speaker 4>actually in.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see why not the I mean, I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see why not. Why why couldn't the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>win eleven games this year?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think winning eleven games is probably more likely

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<v Speaker 2>than being in the NFC title Game. But right now,

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<v Speaker 2>this moment, my my. If if you said all the

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<v Speaker 2>outcomes are available, pick the one that you think is

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<v Speaker 2>most likely, I think it is more. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>most likely outcome is a wild card berth and a

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<v Speaker 2>loss in Round one. Great season, which would be a

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<v Speaker 2>great season. It would be, and it would be it

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<v Speaker 2>would feel better. I think. Tell me if I'm wrong, Danny,

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<v Speaker 2>then this when you had that with Mitch Trubisky or

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<v Speaker 2>when you had that previously, because it would feel like

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<v Speaker 2>because of the quarterback, that is something to truly build on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess what I just described there is what

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<v Speaker 2>Houston just have, CJ. I think that is. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is a realistic expectation for the Chicago Bears this year.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Bears defense is good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you overstate how good it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they they got better as the year went on,

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<v Speaker 3>as they got healthier. They have an elite player at

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<v Speaker 3>all three levels of the defense. They've got a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of young talent. They had Jalen Johnson wall pro corner,

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<v Speaker 3>they have Tremaine Edmonds, who's one of the best coverage

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<v Speaker 3>linebackers in the NFL, and they have Montese Sweat.

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<v Speaker 2>I think calling Montes and Tremaine elite lowers the bar

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<v Speaker 2>for elite. For me paid their elite the I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that Montes is getting paid like he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Elite, is getting he got a big contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Well what's the contract? Because I think he's getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>like he's the tenth best guy, which is the Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's a tier down from elite, then yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a very good upper echelon player at all

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<v Speaker 3>three levels of the defense, plus four.

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<v Speaker 2>For ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just if I were in your shoes, I would

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<v Speaker 4>just be incensed that they prioritized carrying momentum over with

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<v Speaker 4>the defense instead of let's get a head coach in

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<v Speaker 4>here who's gonna optimize.

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<v Speaker 3>That's almost a different discussion. Is it is a different discussion?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a fork in the road.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually think it is though, because if we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about what they can do this year. Obviously, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of it is can Caleb Williams have a season that's

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<v Speaker 4>similar to what c J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud had last year?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think without that coaching infrastructure, I have doubts

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<v Speaker 4>about that happening right off the back.

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<v Speaker 3>But nobody would have said. Nobody would have said that

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Slowick was going to be the key to unlocking

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<v Speaker 3>c J. Stroud last year. He's special.

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<v Speaker 2>So you no, that's and is Slowly and tell the

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<v Speaker 2>audience to the Bears new offensive coordinat.

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<v Speaker 3>Shane Waldron, the guy, the guy from Seattle who helped

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<v Speaker 3>Gino Smith have the breakout season two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason I mentioned that is Slowick was a

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<v Speaker 2>total unknown, which to me allows for maybe a little

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<v Speaker 2>more look at the coaching tree. He came from the

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<v Speaker 2>well and just because we hadn't we have seen Shane

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<v Speaker 2>Waldron be in now the higher floor as well than

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that's totally unknown. But we listen, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do every team, yeah we did twenty minutes. We've

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<v Speaker 2>done two teams, which means right now we're on pace

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<v Speaker 2>for a ten hour pod and that's not gonna work

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So let's go now to the Steelers and

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<v Speaker 2>then we can hit the rest of the leak.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, They've never had a free agency period that's been

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<v Speaker 4>this eventful. This is the most interesting start to an offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>They're the type of team that would for years mock

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<v Speaker 4>the teams that spent a lot of money and made

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<v Speaker 4>the big moves this time of year, and now they've

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<v Speaker 4>become one, which I think is fascinating. So so Wilson, Patrick, Queen,

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<v Speaker 4>you trade Deontay Johnson. I mean it's just they've never

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<v Speaker 4>had a Floria moves like.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain the Deontay Johnson trade? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, they didn't want him around. They wanted nothing to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, I thought, So they have two malcontent wide receivers. Yep. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so is there what's Tomblin?

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<v Speaker 4>The great players coach has fostered a wide receiver room

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<v Speaker 4>where he has complete knuckleheads and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so they traffic in that they live in that

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<v Speaker 4>Chase claypool.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh by Antonio Brown? Yes, okay, So the what is

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<v Speaker 2>we just did this with Chicago, We'll do it with Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the realistic ceiling for the steel They have

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<v Speaker 2>to win a playoff game, win a player. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to They've gone seven years without one. So but that's

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<v Speaker 2>the that's what you're saying. You think they need to

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<v Speaker 2>do in order to keep the status quo. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's really do you mean? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they need I think they'll keep the

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<v Speaker 4>status quot if they go six and eleven. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think things will change.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>The coaches like a pope or a Supreme Court justice,

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<v Speaker 4>they never change them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm right about that? Okay? All right? Uh

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<v Speaker 2>do you are? Are you? If? People? Again, first, some

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<v Speaker 2>pod folks know this, what's right? People might not. At

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<v Speaker 2>the same time that I got the never a doubt tattoo,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Philipponi got right on his hip Canny Pickett's face.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually my ass and he now is well, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just ask you, yep, your optimism on Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh cautiously optimistic, decently high, okay, not bad so that

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<v Speaker 4>I feel better about their quarterback situation now than I

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<v Speaker 4>did a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And isn't that fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course?

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<v Speaker 3>He I mean Russell Wilson is better than Mason Rudolph

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<v Speaker 3>and Kenny Pickett. That is my orders of magnitude though.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he is what percent to be the Week

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<v Speaker 2>one starter ninety nine point nine. Okay, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a competition, No, it's okay, Well I'm asking you. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>For a million, I think Russell Wilson if he lost

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<v Speaker 4>that competition, he would either ask to be released and

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<v Speaker 4>traded to a team that maybe lost a quarterback because

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<v Speaker 4>of injury, or just fade off into the sunset and

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<v Speaker 4>not play football anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, is it actually his den for money?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it even being framed as a competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's because if they use the first round

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<v Speaker 2>pick on Picket, I understand, yah, and they still have

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger investment. And because Pickett is they have him

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<v Speaker 2>under contract for another year and they don't run.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the biggest misconception is that it has to

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<v Speaker 4>be one or the other. Now you have to start

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.679
<v Speaker 4>with Wilson. But I don't think that starting the season

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<v Speaker 4>with Russell Wilson means we won't see Kenny Pickett ever again.

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<v Speaker 4>If Russ gets off to a bumpy start or stinks,

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<v Speaker 4>you bench him and you have like a ten or

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<v Speaker 4>eleven game runway to see what Kenny Pickett is. You

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<v Speaker 4>kill two birds with one stone, Okay, so that I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's a one year, one point two million dollar investment.

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<v Speaker 4>You can achieve both.

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<v Speaker 2>So I yeah, So I think that is real highly

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<v Speaker 2>on the board of potential outcomes. I think that's high.

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<v Speaker 2>That Russell Wilson is the starter, that he is the

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<v Speaker 2>guy and then he gets deposed because of poor play.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we are again, Russell Wilson's first nine years of

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<v Speaker 2>his career, every year played every game, every year, the

0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 2>team had a winning record three years in a row.

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Now Russell Wilson has missed time two of the years

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<v Speaker 2>due to injury, one year because he got benched, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've been below five hundred. So we are we are

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<v Speaker 2>getting approaching a full presidential term since the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson was the guy that people some people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to want to believe he still is, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he has a lot of leash. And the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I want to say about is a contract

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll do the rest of the league. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the one point two million makes sense for the

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Steelers ticket to the Broncos, he gets the same amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money, no matter what. With that, said Russell Wilson, unequivocally,

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<v Speaker 2>if it were out there, would have preferred one point

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<v Speaker 2>two million this year with a substantial amount of money

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 2>next year tacked onto a contract because that doesn't impact

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 2>what Denver pays him, and it gives him security. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very clear to me no team in the league was

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<v Speaker 2>willing to give him that. So this idea that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's only making the million because of the Denver situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's true, but he's on a one year deal

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<v Speaker 2>because no one else wanted to.

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<v Speaker 4>But hold on, I don't think we know that. I

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.919
<v Speaker 4>think we know that no team would give him thirty

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars a year in year two. How do we

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<v Speaker 4>know that a team?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we know that?

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<v Speaker 4>The Steelers didn't say to him, will give you a

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<v Speaker 4>second year that's like a fifteen million dollars salary, And

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<v Speaker 4>he said no, I'd rather bet on myself.

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<v Speaker 2>See how it goes. I guess that's possible to get

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the Baker Mayfield contract, right, sure? Okay, if in that regard,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, he's made it a gazillion dollars. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to bet on himself to be starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>next year. And that's a ton of money.

0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:33.879
<v Speaker 4>All right, what's the next So the next team we

0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 4>have here is Denver. And here's why I have the Broncos.

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 4>After this we just talked about Wilson. Are they the

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 4>last team left for Fields?

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 3>It feels like they're the only place where he could

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:49.919
<v Speaker 3>start tomorrow, for sure, if he just showed up. But

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 3>they don't have a lot of draft capital because of

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.920
<v Speaker 3>the Russell Wilson thing and because of the Sean Payton.

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you need a lot of draft capital

0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 4>to give Fields at this point.

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't either, but you still to. You need to

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 3>give up something. And if you're trading for Justin Fields,

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 3>it's only two point three million dollars or whatever it

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 3>is for this season. But are they gonna bet on

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna trade for him, not pick up the fifth

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 3>year option. He's better than Jarrett Stidham and he leaves.

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe he's third offense in four years.

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is the one time we do this. I'll

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 4>end up saying something that's really dumb. Chances are good,

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm under the impression that Peyton wants no part

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 4>of that. I don't think Peyton wants justin fields at all.

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 4>I think he is zero interest in doing that.

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's also I just think Sean pate what I've heard, well,

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>so this isn't based on anything I've heard. This is

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>just based on you know, knowing what I know about

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Sean Payton and my gut intuition. I think he wants

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 2>to have a more traditional quarter. People say, oh, he

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 2>loved Taysom Hill. I brought that up up, but that's

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's misleading. Almost he liked Taysom Hill as

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>an element of the team. And I also think with

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>respect to Sean, he liked the idea that if Taysom

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Hill turns into something, the amount of credit and love

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I will get for building this guy.

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 3>And he was like the toy that was there that

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 3>you could play with it. It wasn't like a six

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 3>month offseason journey to seek out Taysom Hill. He was right.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 3>He was there with Jamis and other guys, and he

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 3>was just like, oh, I can try to tays Some Hill.

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 2>So why would the Giants not be involved they?

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I wrote I was working on a list

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 3>of teams like, he's better than Daniel Jones and Drew

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 3>lock He's better than Will Levis, He's better than Jared Stidham.

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 3>He's better than Sam Darnold, though obviously we'll get to

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 3>them in terms of what they just traded for. He

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 3>has certainly more upside than Gardner Minshew. There are teams

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 3>where if Justin Fields was a free agent right now,

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that the Giants would have signed him over

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Drew lock and let him compete with Daniel Jones, no

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 3>question about it. But with Drew Lockett just cost you money.

0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 3>This it does cost you a draft pick and money.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>So since we're John Broncos, we'll leave it here. I

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>one thing that happened that I found interesting is, and

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's actually smart. So Russell Wilson's eighty five

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>million dollars dead cap hit. They could have split it

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>up to where it was the majority of that hit

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty five cap and less hit this year.

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>They did it the opposite way, where the majority hits

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>now this coming season unless hits the following year. I

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>think that is smart. I think that's the right call.

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I also think it speaks to the fact I think

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Sean Payton might be looking at this year as a

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>retool rebuild. They'll be awful and you know what I mean,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and try to hit the ground running in year three

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of his time there, which I think is the right move.

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I think if the Broncos they're drafting twelve, I think

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>if the Broncos all of a sudden take the little

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>draft capital they have, try to move up, you know,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>and try to do things so they can target JJ

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy or Jayden. If he Jayden, I wouldn't be a

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>terrible idea, but I think that would be a mistake.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the Broncos have to take a longer view

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>of it, which is why you're hearing names like Zach

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Wilson attached to him. It also that also is an

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>argument for them to take a flyer on Justin Fields.

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But I just don't think Sean Payton and Justin Fields

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be on the same team. All right, Do

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 2>we want to go ahead? Dan?

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Let mean, let's just get to get into some of

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 3>these teams.

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Right. You mentioned Curtis Samuel for the Bills. What do

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 3>we think of the situation there an out wide receiver?

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that we have to be honest

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 2>about who Stefan Diggs is right now. So Stefan Diggs

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>guy who fell off a cliff in the second half

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 2>of the season, right and.

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 3>I was not targeted, was not trusted.

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>But I the amount with which he fell off the

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 2>cliff I think has been underrated by the national media.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>The first six games of last year, Stefan Diggs in

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>six games had forty nine catches, six hundred and twenty yards,

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and five touchdowns, So we averaged over one hundred yards,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 2>nine catches and nearly a touchdown. Again, so six twenty

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and five. The final eleven games of last year he

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>had five hundred and sixty yards, so fewer yards in

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the final eleven than the first six and three touchdowns.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>And then in the playoff run he had a total

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 2>of seventy three yards and zero touchdowns. So there's a

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of questions with Diggs, which is the new offense,

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 2>how much do they value him? Did he hit a wall?

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 2>All of those things. Now, I don't think there's a

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 2>big difference between Curtis Samuel and Gabe Davis, so I

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's a huge drop off there. But my

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 2>big take on the Bills is very simple, and I

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>want to know where you guys stand on it. The

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>only reason the Buffalo Bills are scary is because they

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>have Josh Allen and the idea that their path forward

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>is to minimize, to lower Josh Allen's ceiling, because they're

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>afraid of the mistakes that lucks you into being just

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a team. You have to be like God dogget man.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be year six for him? Is that right?

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>He was drafted one year after Mahomes. I think this

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>is year six for him. Eighteen, this year seven for him,

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 2>because this is year eight for Mahomes. Grow up, give

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 2>us the upside without the cartoonish mistakes. That's the only

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>way we can be great. But they changed to that point.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 4>One of the most underrated stories in the NFL last

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 4>year was when they fired Dorsey McDermott forced onto that

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 4>team a very run first.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Year, and I puts a ceiling on I agree with that.

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 4>But what I wonder is now that Brady is the

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>full time offensive coordinator, is he allowed to expand the offense?

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Was that a byproduct of.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Them needing to make the playoffs last year or is

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 4>that who the Bills are this year, and if that's

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 4>who the Bills are this year, if they're just gonna

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 4>carry over that offense this year, my prediction is they

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 4>will maybe miss the playoffs and Sean McDermott will get

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 4>fired at the end of the year and somebody like

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick will be their coach next season.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I like listen that. I think all of that

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>was interesting. I also think the other element for the

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Bills is you asked about their offense and the receivers

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they are going to be for the first time of

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>this era and average at best. Defense. You cannot draft

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>as poorly as they have and have the lack of

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and the free agency losses that they had and all

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden be a real defense the way they've been,

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>so they are going to need Danny to have a

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>great offense just to compete. They will.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the idea of more balance for Buffalo

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 3>is a bad thing, though I know I'm the highest

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 3>one on Josh Allen here. But with Herbert, with the Chargers,

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 3>they hire Harbaugh, they hire Greg Roman. Why are they

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>hiring Greg Roman? How are you gonna help Justin Herbert?

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 3>He's all about running games like giving Justin Herbert. A

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>running game would help Justin Herbert a lot, giving Josh

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Allen some balance so he doesn't have to be eighty

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 3>five percent of the offensive production week in and week out.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>That should help reduce the mistakes because he doesn't have

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>to be throwing every third and two.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 4>All Right, we gotta keep Falcons Vikings, Kirk Cousins trade

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 4>fallout and what that caused Minnesota to do with the

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 4>trade with Houston.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>So I think Atlanta is I get why they are

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>an odds on even money favorite in the South. I

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 3>think it's a little crazy that Tampa is second second

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>three to one. Like I don't think that the gap

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 3>between Atlanta and Tampa should be that significant. But assuming

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Cousins comes back from the injury one hundred percent, it's

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 3>very hard to imagine a team maybe going from Fields

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to Caleb. But that will have upgraded more at quarterback

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 3>this year, and their defense is very good, and they

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>will still be adding someone with the eighth pick in

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the draft, which might be the best defensive player in

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>the draft, or.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It might be they might move down and add you

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, extra stuff for a team that

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 2>wants to jump in.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 4>Can you just explain to me why the assumption is

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>that he will come back from this injury and be

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 4>the same guy he was before.

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Obviously it's a leap of faith. I don't I don't

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 3>know the answer to that. He's they gave him over

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>they gave him one hundred million dollars guaranteed, so they

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 3>have to have some confidence in it. He did that

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>workout video on a tennis court, which is apparently impressive

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>to people in the Achilles recovery community. I don't know.

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Listen, if he's if he's a shell of himself, then

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>it is a mistake. That's how I see it. And

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that is not only is that a non

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>zero possibility, I would say that's a one in five.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I would say there's a twenty percent. Much of what

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 3>he does is based on athleticism or anything. It's just

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 3>about snap, throw, get the ball.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Now, I understand. But if the Achilles is not full

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>strength or close to it, then he will at his

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>age not be the same player and they'll be cooked.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>But I just I still think it was worth it.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I think getting the stability at quarterback there with a

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>good offensive line, three top ten skill position guys that

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>you three top ten web ear draft picks in London,

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Pits and Bijon. I think guys also here's the other reason.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's sneaky important. You got to make decisions

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>on those guys in the next couple of years. Are

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you going to bring re signed Drake London? Are you

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>going to resign Kyle Pitts? And you need to give

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>them stability there.

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 4>If I were them, I would have made a push

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 4>for Russ for a million dollars and had him be

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 4>a stopgap quarterback and tried to get McCarthy in the

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>draft to be my long term answer at the position,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 4>rather than invest so much in a guy. There's this

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't understand. I know the numbers are

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 4>good with him year after year.

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>He puts my feeling on it.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't trust him whatsoever as a quarterback.

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, No, that's fine. But if you're Raheem Morris

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, man, I got a chance to be

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 2>a head coach almost fifteen years ago. It never got

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>off the ground because of Josh Freeman. I'm just not

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>going to walk through that door again.

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I I'm just shocked at the organization that watched Matt

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Ryan fall apart before that made this commitment cousins.

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>So the Vikings, if people don't know the Vikings traded

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the twenty third pick, I'm sorry. The Vikings got the

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty third pick. They traded away the forty second, the

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>one to eighty eighth and next year second, which is significant.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So the Vikings are now sitting at eleven and twenty three.

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>This means what to you.

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I think the obvious connecting of the

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 3>dots here, and you can look at any of the

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>trade value charts that are out there, the old Jimmy

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Johnson wille or some of the newer like Walter Football ones.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>If they package simply eleven and twenty three, depending on

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 3>which chart you trust, they can either get the third

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>pick in the draft or the fourth pick in the draft.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>So that if New England is in interested in trading

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>out because they don't think they're ready for Drake May,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 3>they can trade up and get Drake May. Or if

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 3>this is a situation like the Niners a few years

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>ago when they traded up for Trey Lance, maybe they

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 3>don't even know what quarterback is going to be there.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>They just know they're taking the third or fourth quarterback

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 3>in this draft and they're comformation.

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's a smoke screen, but everything I heard out

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>of the combine was that the Vikings loved McCarthy.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Everybody loves McCarthy.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 4>The other yeah, I know, but the other taking him

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 4>four would be crazy. The other connection is that Josh

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 4>McCown was Drake May's high school football.

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>But McCown's not going to be there. I'm sorry, May's

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 2>not going to be there. If they trade up to three,

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>he could be there. Okay, all right, that's fair. If

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 2>they trade up to three, that's right. So Dusty, this

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 2>great stats guy from First Things First, sent me this

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>right after the Vikings trade, and I think it's noteworthy.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 2>When the Eagles traded up to get wins. Before they

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 2>traded up to get wins, they did a deal where

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>they sent two players and the thirteenth overall pick to

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Miami for the eighth overall pick. They then packaged that

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>to move up to numbers two, So they ended up

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 2>trading the eighth, the seventy seventh, the one hundredth and

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>a first and second rounder the next year to go

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 2>from eight to two. But what they really traded was thirteen,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 2>two players and that stuff to move up to two.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>So I do think it is setting the table, yes

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>for a move up. All right?

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Next, Okay, so Jaguars Titans, Calvin Ridley now a Titan.

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 3>We like it more for the Titans are bad for

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars because the Jaguars roster management cost them Calvin Ridley.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Their roster management is atrocious. Yeah, I mean, I don't

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 4>think that that story is being it's not being discussed

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 4>enough because no one cares other than Nick and his

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Trevor Lawrence obsession.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>But like they've let him down, thank you, thank you,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>They've let you know what, let's start that narrative that

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Trevor has been let down and the listen, Trent Balky's

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>been bad a lot of places and for the roster

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers. Jim Harbaugh for the record, I don't

0:35:58.440 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 2>like the Calvin Ridley deal.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 3>The Titans either, well they I mean, I know that

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>inflation cap going up and all of that, but it

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 3>is tough to reconcile fifty million for Calvin Ridley and

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 3>not giving AJ Brown what fifty seven million correct two

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 3>years ago. And I know there's a second round pick there,

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 3>and I know AJ Brown is a higher percentage of

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 3>the cap because getting that money two years ago is different.

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 3>But still, aj Brown is a significantly better football player

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 3>than Calvin Ridley. I was shocked by how much Ridley

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 3>got based on his production from last year.

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>The other problem for the Jags is they have the

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>following four receivers well, and three of them are on extensions.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Ones on his rookie deal, Christian Kirk at twenty four

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>million on the cap, Zay Jones at eleven, Gabe Davis

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>who right now is at five because they did funny

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff there, and Devin du Vernet. That are those four receivers.

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, you have one guy who is a

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>A two in Kirk, and then you have three number

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>three or four receivers.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 4>They're tight end and running back, are probably better passing

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 4>game threats than the guys they have a wide receiver.

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 2>So I don't get what the Jags are doing. I

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 2>also don't get what the Titans are doing.

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, Raiders and Texans. We linked these teams together

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>because the two biggest impactful defensive players Christian Wilkins to

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>the Raiders Daniel Hunter to the Texans, which is the

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 3>more impactful signing.

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 4>I think it's Wilkins. I think it should be Wilkins.

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 4>If it's not Wilkins, then something really effed up happened there.

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 4>He's going to play on a line with Max Crosby.

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, so that's the fans and they dressed

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 3>what Tyree Wilson right, who didn't really show much. I mean, yeah,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>but it's like a high pedigree thing. I will get touch.

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Over rated by the way, but go ahead and make

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 2>your point.

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, listen, I think that Hunter is a consistent high

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 3>floor that will They.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Basically flipped out Jonathan Grenard for Danell Hanna.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Wilkins. Wilkins is excellent premium position prime of

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 3>his career, always has been awesome against the run, just

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>had his best pass rush season, never miss his games. Clearly,

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Christian Wilkins is the better player, which is why he

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 3>got the bigger deal. I think the Texans thing is

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>just a continuation and it's Their offseason has been fascinating.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 3>It's been aggressive. This is what happens if you have

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 3>a rookie QB who hits immediately, right. This is why

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you play the guys in year one. They now know

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 3>for the next three seasons that they have a top

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 3>ten will be conservative quarterback on a cheap deal.

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>So for two years guaranteeing Daniel Hunter, Hey, I know

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get ten sacks. You know that is

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 3>a very valuable thing. This is a CJ. Stroud signing

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 3>possibility for the Texas.

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>So I agree with that, listen. I also like the

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Christian Wilkins signing lot for the Raiders. I think the

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Raiders offense is going to be one of the worst

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 2>in football next year, and that's why they're not going

0:38:55.840 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 2>to be good. But I getting Wilkins there. I want

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to bring this back to the Chiefs just for a moment.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that.

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Uh. This is why I love the Chris Jones deal

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>so much, because I don't look at Chris Jones's thirty

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 2>two million dollars a year, which is what it's three years,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 2>ninety five million, fully guaranteed, is what the deal is.

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Because unless you have drafted a defensive tackle that's awesome

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 2>on his rookie deal. The Christian Wilkins signing tells me

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>the cost of doing business to get a top eight

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.439
<v Speaker 2>d tackle is he's twenty seven and a half million

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>a year. Just call it twenty five million bucks. That

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>gets you in the door, because what did a Matabuque

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 2>go for like twenty four million a year? Yeah, got

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.720
<v Speaker 2>a huge So the cost of doing if you want

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a proven d tackle in this league, it's twenty five

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>million a year right now. So to me, the question

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 2>is not is Chris Jones worth thirty two million bucks?

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>The question is is Chris Jones enough better than Madibuque

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>or Wilkins to make up for the fact that you

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>now can't get a seven million, five to seven million

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year player. And the answer is unequivocally yes.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 2>You can go naked at the position to say we're

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>going to draft a guy or not, But if you

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>want to have an inbat guy at that spot, you're

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>anchored at twenty five million a year. So does he

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not as he were thirty two. It's is he

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 2>worth the gap between him and the other guys? And

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 2>to me, I think the answer is unequivocally yes.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Dunfan's Cowboys biggest off bigger offseason loser Miami or Dallas.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Dallas is a big loser. They just

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 2>haven't done anything. Nick Well, they did get Kendricks. They

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>stole them away after you'd agreed to U.

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Let's amend that question and edit it out and throw

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 4>it out.

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 2>No, that's fine, But but the Cowboys were really good

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>last year? Yeah? What what tell me?

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Here's how many times does the season have to end

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 4>the same exact way for it to not nullify?

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Or Okay, so here's my lot.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 4>What happened in the seventeen game regularly, right, that's totally fair.

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>But here's where I think you're being intellectually dishonest. Is

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>there anything they could have done in free agency that

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't change the coach or the quarterback that would change

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>your opinion about them? In the playoffs? Is there a

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>move they could have made? You're like, well, okay, now

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>that you.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Can't play you can't play the playoffs in March.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, he's saying. I think what Pony

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was saying is, Okay, how many times do we have

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 2>to see them have good regular seasons and flame out

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs? And but the question was were they

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 2>a loser in free agencies? What I am saying is.

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 4>They set an expectation that they were gonna make changes

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 4>from the very end of that Packers game, and they've

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:48.879
<v Speaker 4>done nothing right.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>But are there any changes other than the coaching quarterback

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that would make you more optimistic about them their playoff

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 2>chances next year?

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, are you telling me that any big free

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 4>agent move or trade was completely off the table for

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 4>them because of like money?

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 2>No? But what was it? What? What could they have

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 2>done right? That's what I'm talking about.

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 4>They could have gone out there and signed a huge

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 4>defensive player, or they could have signed Calvin Ridley or

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 4>one of these running backs.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know something Nick, so that the defensive player

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>thing I buy Ridley or the running backs wouldn't have

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>made it.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, fair enough, But I'm just saying, like you're you're

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 4>you're trying to back me into a corner here on, Like,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 4>is there any They've done nothing?

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So I still think Miami's far and away the bigger loser.

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, they've certainly lost the most, right, no team in

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>the NFL has lost more, yeah than Kendall Fuller.

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 2>But look at all the players.

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess the Chargers, Chargers, maybe you put you put

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>them there.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>The Chargers offset by Hardball being hired as their coach,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think Miami is in a really rough spot.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I think the Miami's defense wasn't good. You talk about

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 2>in the same every year with the weather.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Get asked a spinoff question off of that, then, is

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 4>the is the percentage higher than twenty five percent than

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty five they will have a new coach

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 4>and a new quarterback in Miami.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that's on the table.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I think I think a new well, I think it

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 4>definitely is on the table. I don't think it's fifty

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 4>to fifty, but I think it's around. I think it

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe twenty five percent to him.

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Why why would McDaniel be in trouble?

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Why why wouldn't he be I mean, I think he's

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>a good coach and offenduction Also listen, I here's where

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I would be okay with McDaniel being in trouble if

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 2>he green lights them giving to an extension and it

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>seems like they're going to at that. If you're the

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:41.959
<v Speaker 2>head coach and you have some bower and you green

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 2>light the extension, you then can't be like you. I

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 2>no longer will give you the benefit of the held

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>back by the quarterback because you've tied yourself to him.

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean, let's see how good their offense

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 3>is this year. They still have Waddle, they still have Tyreek,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>they still have two, they still have McDaniel.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 4>If he goes three years without winning a playoff game

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 4>and it's two, one and duns and they go like

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 4>six and eleven this year, I don't think he'll be back.

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think Tuba will be back. Reminder for

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the audience, if you listen on the First and Pod feed,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.040
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0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.640
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0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.279
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0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.680
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0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:27.479
<v Speaker 2>we gotta really go.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 3>For yeah, we gotta go very fair.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Ravens, Eagles, Packers. Which big name running back signing do

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 3>you like the most?

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 2>None of them? I like none of them. You don't

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 2>think about the question pick one.

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>You don't think that the Ravens would have been committed

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 3>to a more balanced attack in the playoffs if they

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 3>had Derek Henry on the right.

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the narrative surrounding that Raven's playoff loss is

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 2>so hilarious, which is all year long. If you were

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 2>not laying flowers at Lamar's feet about sure about what

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant passery'd become all of this, you were called

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 2>a hater. Yeah, and then with that in the playoff game,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>everyone's answer is how dumb were the Ravens letting Lamar pass?

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Why they played right into the Chiefs game plan, which

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>was put the ball in the MVP's hands. And now

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens are I think, tacitly admitting okay, yeah, we

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to be a smash mouth run team.

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And I also I just I will take the under

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 2>on Derrick Henry's production this year. I will do that.

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>So I don't like that.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 4>So if it's said it, if it's set at a

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 4>thousand yards, you would go under that, Yes, I would not.

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I really don't like the Saquon deal. They paid him

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 2>the exact money that Patrick Queen got. They need back

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 2>seven guys, not a linebacker. I'm fine with the Packers

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 2>because they're young and they it's fine.

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, so I'm just I'm surprised. I'm surprised by the

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Packers one. I'm just surprised by it. Aaron Jones is awesome.

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 3>They called him the best player on their team last year,

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 3>and he was dominant in the playoffs. I know Jacobs

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 3>is younger, but he's old like in terms of the

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>wear on the tires. So I think Aaron Jones is awesome.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 3>So that one, that one surprised me. I think that

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Derek Kendrick side about Aaron Jones.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 2>He had six hundred and fifty yards last year.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Look at his playoff game book.

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, I get it. He kicked the Cowboys ass.

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 2>I understand that. I that I tend to when when

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 2>teams don't want to bring back their own running backs. Sure,

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I tend to think they're right. All right, Jets, What

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 2>is Aaron Rodgers doing? I don't listen. I uh uh

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>the Jets. Here's the analogy I'll give because Robert Syl

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Douglas have to hate what's happened here, Yes,

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>but they'd be fired without him. So what you have

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>in New York is a I would say lower, a

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>poor family, A family struggles to make ends meet. Who's

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>ten year old just got cast as the new Harry

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:16.919
<v Speaker 2>Potter and is they are all of a sudden rich

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>beyond their imagination. And around the time the second movie's

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 2>coming out, the eleven year old now has figured out

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Hold on a minute, his charge here. My parents can

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>never get they they only can live this life because

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.280
<v Speaker 2>of me. And I will do literally whatever I want

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and dare them to punish me because I'll turn the

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 2>faucet off. That's what's happened. And Aaron Rodgers is the

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 2>eleven year old drunk with power, like, Oh, we're gonna

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 2>talk about distractions out of the building, except I am

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>going to allow to be floated. I might be the

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 2>next vice president. We are going I'm gonna go on

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>a podcast and talk about the fact that I think

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 2>mountains used to be giant trees and and all of

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>this nonsense, and I dare you to do something about it.

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:12.240
<v Speaker 2>So I think the Jets are in the worst position

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>of any team in the NFL.

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll just add to that because that analogy is brilliant.

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 3>It's never good if you're going to AI to release

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 3>a statement saying that you believed Sandy Hook happened. Yeah,

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 3>that's that's just a bad spot to be we need

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 3>to go.

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Very Giants and Panthers.

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 4>The Burns trade reaction, Carolina could have had two first

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 4>round picks for this guy in the same season.

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>What a disaster. You think the Jets organization is a

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 2>train wreck?

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Look at Carolina, right, you trade my damn Brian Burns

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 3>non trade.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Can I give a counter intuitive take on that Brian

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Burns story. I agree with everything that people are saying.

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Good job by the Giants. I actually like it for

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the Giants, good value, that's fine. The bigger story to

0:48:55.280 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 2>me is not the bigger but an underrated story, is

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 2>that would have been one of the worst trades ever

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the Ram the Rams offering two ones in a two

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>for the league's eighth best edge rusher to give him bananas.

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 4>You know what's interesting about that is that Les Snead

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 4>had this impulsiveness to want to do that in season

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 4>and they've done next to nothing.

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, no, I think that you're right. They may

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:25.959
<v Speaker 2>be Sanity said in all right, next.

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh, Lions and Niners. Status quo good enough for some

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 3>of the best teams in the NFC.

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it is status quo for the Niners.

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, you lose Eric Armstead, You're yeah.

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.120
<v Speaker 4>But you traded for the Houston defensive tackle to take

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 4>his spot.

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and you added Leonard Floyd. I get that. I

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>also it's been quiet, but the Ayuk thing seemed to

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>be a thing, uh and good enough to still be

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 2>a playoff team like the Sure. And for the Lions,

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're in great shade personal Yeah, I agree,

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>But those Ben Johnson, when you're that young of a team,

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you get better just by a year passing, you know

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Just by those guys getting experienced.

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yea, and Branches back safety he'll be he'll be recover. Yeah.

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 3>The biggest thing for the Lions is that that Ben

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Johnson didn't take a head coaching job. Somehow, I do

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 3>not understand how that happens. Next the Bucks, they kept

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the band back together. Can they win the South?

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.760
<v Speaker 2>They can? But I think and I like Baker a lot,

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they overachieved a bit last year and I

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 2>think that they're probably in the same boat.

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 4>Where can I ask you what when you say I

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 4>like Baker a lot, what does that mean?

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>What it like for someone who likes Baker a lot?

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>What does that top ten. No, no, no, no, I actually

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>meant personally. Oh, I mean I think that teammates like him.

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a leader. I think he is tough

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 2>as hell. Yeah, well that costume his job in Cleveland, right,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>and but he is to me, he is right at average,

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? So you said he was

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>at best thirteenth and at worst nineteenth, and he's probably sixteenth.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I just think that the Falcons probably have correctly leap

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 2>prog What.

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 3>An incredible sense of loyalty from Mike Evans. I mean,

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 3>the guy's gonna go into the Hall of Fame. He'll

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 3>play his whole career with the Bucks. He got his ring.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 3>What is it? Nine straight a thousand yard seasons? At

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 3>this point, guys, I thought at some point he would

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>look to do a Hollywood Brown deal, go give the

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs a discount and try to get another ring and ring.

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's because he has a ring.

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.239
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't need to I know, but it's just it's

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 3>an awesome legacy. You just don't see it anymore.

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure, all right, Bengals, Browns.

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 4>Are these Ohio teams any closer to challenging Kansas City?

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, good, good question.

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean do you think so?

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:51.919
<v Speaker 3>I think the Bengals are good.

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.720
<v Speaker 2>They're good, but how are they closer?

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Well, they got to their defense sucked ass last year.

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean, let's just I'm right out and say it. It

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 4>was awful. That had really not that much to do

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 4>with Joe Burrow. And they're a coach An Rumo who

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 4>basically was like thought of as this Patrick Mahomes kryptonite coach.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.359
<v Speaker 4>They went from having a defense that could stymy him

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.919
<v Speaker 4>to like being thirtieth in the league. So they brought

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Stone and who had what seven or eight interceptions in Baltimore,

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 4>and they signed someone to play their defensive line. So

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 4>like they've made the moves around the margins to fill

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 4>out their team.

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 2>And the t Higgins thing is is to Higgins Stone

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Higgins thing is the weird thing. And that's why I

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.319
<v Speaker 2>have to see how that lands before I can give

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 2>them a real grade. Is that everybody that's everybody, Oh,

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>what do we have? Who do we leave out? Well?

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 2>We left out Commanders and Seahawks? What's up with the

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Howell trade? Oh? I go ahead, you, I mean, it's

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:43.720
<v Speaker 2>just it's wild.

0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 3>If that's a spot that also isn't available for Justin

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Fields because of Sam Howell. Because they're saying they came

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.880
<v Speaker 3>out and very publicly committed to Gino Smith with the

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 3>guaranteed money. Did they well saying all of that publicly?

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? Sho speak louder than words. It's like to MEA.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Howel is not gonna challenge Gino Smith to be the

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 3>starting quarterback.

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying he's gonna challenge him to be the

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 4>starting quarterback. But my guess is by Thanksgiving he's he's

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 4>the seahawks starting quarterback.

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I disagree, Oh, I disagree. I don't think Sam Hell

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 2>is good at all. I think that the the Commanders

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 2>are obviously gonna draft either maid Wait a minute.

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 4>If you're the Seahawks and you've got new coaches, right,

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 4>and you get to the midpoint of the season and

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 4>you're like four and four and Gino Smith doesn't have

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 4>a future there, why wouldn't you see what Howell has?

0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Because you can see what Howell has by turning on

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 2>his film for his entire NFL career. That's what I think.

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>All right. One of these two people wrote a book.

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 2>It's coming out in a few weeks. We discussed that

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 2>next What's Right and the First in Pod podcast crossover.

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back in What's Right with Nick Wright

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and First in Pod. It's a first ever crossover episode

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 2>we've ever done. This will show up on both of

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the podcast feeds Danny Parkins Andrew Philippony from First and Pod,

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're also going to be on First Things First

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 2>on Friday, which depends on when you're listening to this.

0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 2>It's you know whatever, it doesn't matter, uh, Danny, Yes, sir,

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe you were doing this when you told

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 2>me you were doing it.

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 3>It was it was a dumb idea.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 2>So I'm holding this up to the camera. I dumb

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>idea is not the right word. It was a big

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 2>tech undertaking.

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 2>So Danny Parkins and his dear friend Ben Kaplan wrote

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a book called Pipeline to the Pros. And when I

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>say wrote a book, not like a pamphlet, like a

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.719
<v Speaker 2>real long book, it comes out with like a real

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>publisher and stuff it no, no, a whole thing, go ahead,

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it comes.

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it comes out April sixteenth. Pipeline of the Pros,

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 3>how d three small college Nobody's Rose to Rule the NBA.

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so listen, I've read the book. It's outstanding. Jeff

0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>ban Gundi wrote the foreword, and it is do you

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>guys remember when we were in college and like, I

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like you tried to dunk a basketball and broke

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>your wrist. That happened. That's not the story I was

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:13.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to. I feel like it was a big

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 2>thing at war or college radio station, and now I

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>don't quite remember it. It was called like the Cradle

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>of Coaches or the Cradle of Quarterback. It was some

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>area of Ohio that, like all these kind.

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Of Miami, Ohio was the cradle of coaches, and like

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.280
<v Speaker 4>all of these coaches came from all these NFL coaches.

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah NFL. Okay, So the premise of this book, well,

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let Danny describe it, but it is wild

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 2>when you when you get into the actual numbers and

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 2>how Division III college basketball had, how those guys have

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 2>become some of the biggest power brokers in the NBA,

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and what it teaches us about where the league is

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.839
<v Speaker 2>headed and how it got there is fascinating. So you

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 2>go and explain it.

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I didn't know anything about this story, right,

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 3>We went to Syra, but we have a very big,

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:06.680
<v Speaker 3>powerful alumni network of broadcasters, much like you know Wharton

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Business School or Harvard Medical School. It's a powerful network. Well,

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 3>these guys who for the love of the game, basically

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.399
<v Speaker 3>after high school, didn't want to give up the game,

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>but had no dreams of playing at a Syracuse or

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 3>a Duke or in North Carolina and were smart, went

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>to these liberal arts colleges to get a good education

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and it was the only place that they could play.

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.280
<v Speaker 3>And then they realized as the game in the league

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 3>was getting smarter, that they had a unique ability because

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 3>of their intelligence, how you have to teach the game

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 3>at that level, you're more of a teacher than like

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<v Speaker 3>a talent manager. And they also could speak basketball because

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 3>it's a pretty damn high level of competition, that they

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 3>were uniquely qualified to be excellent coaches. In front office

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 3>members a few years ago, thirteen of thirty teams had

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<v Speaker 3>either a head coach or a top decision maker as

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<v Speaker 3>in like president of basketball operations, the number one guy

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 3>an organization that had played or coached D three. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us some of the names. So we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Greg Popovich, Sam Presty with the Knicks, both Tom

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Thibodeaux and Leon Rose, the forward by Jeff Van Gundy,

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Stan van Gundy, he hires Tibbs, Steve Clifford, Frank Vogel,

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Mike Butenholzer, So all of these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So not just so not just the powerful guys, but

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>some of the most well regarded champion coaches or championship

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 2>level coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Kobe Altman who runs the Cavs, rafel Stone,

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 3>who runs the Rockets. And so what we did was

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Brett Brad Stevens. I talked to Brad Stevens for ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, so we talked to these guys.

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Brad Stevens was D three guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, yeah, And so we talked to these guys

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<v Speaker 3>and the network that they've created. We talked at this

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 3>radio conference, right, we helped our friends, yep, along the way.

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:02.480
<v Speaker 3>These guys helped their friends along the way. And it

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 3>was once a couple of them got in Jeff Van

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Gundy and Greg Popovich probably is the biggest modern names

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 3>that you would know. They said, it really is just teaching.

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I just need people who can teach these guys. Basketball

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 3>players want to learn. They don't care if you're six

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 3>foot nothing, one hundred and fifty pounds. If you can

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 3>teach Patrick Ewing how to be better, or you can

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:27.439
<v Speaker 3>teach Tim Duncan how to be better, it doesn't matter

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 3>that you could have never played at his level. And

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 3>so that's the basketball side. The things that they've impacted

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 3>in NBA history are incredible. But it's also I think

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like a management primer. It's a story of networking,

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 3>it's about the value of a good liberal arts education.

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 3>It's I think people would really get a lot out

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 3>of it, So listen.

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>It is if you're a big NBA fan, it is

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the best in kind of unique

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.959
<v Speaker 2>idea NBA books to come out in years. Even though,

0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 2>but if you are watching this and you're not a

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 2>big NBA fan, it is it is applicable to a

0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of fields about how to find talented people, and

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe not the places you would initially think to. I

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you a couple other questions though, because

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I Will Hardy is a guy I don't know if

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned him. Chris Finch obviously talk to both of

0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 2>them for the book. And so when did this really

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>start like is there ay, you mentioned the Van Gundyes,

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>but was there a moment where you saw, like, oh,

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 2>it went from being there was one guy like this

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to a surplus of guys like.

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so like in the post, so you can

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 3>go back further right with like a Karl Sheer or

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 3>a Norm Sanzhu and like some of the guys like

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the Carl Sheer helps the Nuggets and the ABA transformation

0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and bringing All Star weekends to the NBA all sorts

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 3>of like you can go back in NBA history and

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 3>find one offs Bill Musselman guys like that. But Greg

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Popovich and Jeff Van Gundy after them, I mean they

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 3>hired everybody. Sam Presty gets hired by pop and then

1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Sam Presty starts emailing these NESCAC schools, these Northeast Liberal

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Arts schools, emailing their coaches and saying, hey, do you

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.920
<v Speaker 3>have anyone on your staff but or on your on

1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 3>your team, on your roster or your managers who are

1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 3>smart and could apply like data sciences, And then he

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<v Speaker 3>hires them to.

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<v Speaker 4>Run there and like what Belichick did for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the D three guys, it sounds remarkably like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's very it's very similar, and I mean

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<v Speaker 3>and bringing guys into the video coordinator rooms, coaching staffs

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<v Speaker 3>have been expanded, the G League, all of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's just there's more opportunity now it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just I got four assistant coaches and I've got to

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<v Speaker 3>fill it with an XNBA player.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick before we wrap up, Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the pushback on this? By putting that on your book?

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<v Speaker 2>But on the I imagine there are some people that

1:00:56.920 --> 1:01:00.080
<v Speaker 2>are like, yeah, and that's why guys who play in

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the league, who have real hands on the ground experience

1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:06.800
<v Speaker 2>playing big time basketball, that there's not as much room

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<v Speaker 2>for them. Is there a level of I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if resentments the right word, but pushback or resentment or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so we asked all these guys for stories about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people challenging them and players not buying in

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and all of that, and it was a wide range.

1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Like some guys were like absolutely, like hub Brown talking

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 3>about Oscar Robertson, like think he was going to drown

1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:27.960
<v Speaker 3>him in an ocean. Talk to Hube Brown for two

1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.480
<v Speaker 3>hours and forty five minutes in the book. Jeff Van Gundy, though,

1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 3>was like I would have never been hired if it

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 3>was an interim job.

1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:36.760
<v Speaker 2>No, no team would have ever believed me.

1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 3>But I got the interim job and I had humble

1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:44.000
<v Speaker 3>superstars and Patrick Ewing vouched for me and then made

1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:48.120
<v Speaker 3>his career. So those anecdotes are more on like a

1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:49.800
<v Speaker 3>case by case basis, but there are a lot of

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:52.439
<v Speaker 3>unique challenge challenges there. And then I would just also

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<v Speaker 3>just like say one more thing, like I'm donating the

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<v Speaker 3>money that I make from the book to brain cancer research,

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<v Speaker 3>to Brain Up and honor my brother Brad. This you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned like you couldn't believe that I was taking this on.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben's dad diagnosed with a rare disease after we started

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<v Speaker 3>the book passed away. Both my dad and brother passed

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<v Speaker 3>away all during the process from like concept to publication.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a story like for us, it's an accomplishment

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<v Speaker 3>of like friendship. It was a distraction, perseverance, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>hoping to raise a little bit of money for brain

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<v Speaker 3>cancer research and honor my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>So the people, the first and Pod crew knows that

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<v Speaker 2>Danny's brother about three and a half years ago was

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed about three and a half user goes dinosed with

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<v Speaker 2>glue oblastoma.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess actually coming up on four and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years ago, oh fo yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And made it for almost three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he's I guess, yes, we're coming out four

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<v Speaker 3>year because he's been dead. He died last Easter.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, And so that went through that entire process

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<v Speaker 2>during the writing of this book. So, as he mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>every dollar that he generates from this will go to

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<v Speaker 2>the research to try it, which they've made real strides

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<v Speaker 2>on just in the last since I've been familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>the last few years. But it still considered an uncurable

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<v Speaker 2>form correct of brain cancer. And so the book is

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<v Speaker 2>Pipeline to the Pros. People can pre order it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, preorders are going. Preorders are going very well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's you'd have it April sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>April sixteenth, right before Easter this year, right or right

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<v Speaker 2>around yeah, this year. Pipeline to the Pros. They can

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<v Speaker 2>just google it, like, is there a website to go to?

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<v Speaker 3>Just Google Pipeline of the Pros. It's available at Barnes

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<v Speaker 3>and Noble, Amazon, wherever you get books, Triumph books dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's in my Twitter handle. It's the pins

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<v Speaker 3>tweet you just pipeline of the pros, you'll find it awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I we about a year ago on the show

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<v Speaker 2>we did book club. We then stopped it because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really know how to do book club. I would

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<v Speaker 2>just like to read chapters on the air. It was

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<v Speaker 2>terrible podcasting. But this book is worthwhile for everyone, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope though What's Right audience, obviously the First

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<v Speaker 2>and Pod audience checks it out. All right, fellas, we

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