WEBVTT - Into the Freezer with Whitney Bischoff 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.520 Oh, I suck at dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jarrett 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:10.840 and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everybody? Welcome 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.800 to an all new episode of Help. I suck at data. Well, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:19.360 the only one that does is Dean. That was a 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:24.720 zing roast. Dean. That's great. Well, as you guys can tell, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.120 Vanessa is in studio, not over the phone. Dean, as 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.720 always is in studio. We are joined by Eastern. We 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.360 have a wonderful episode for you today. Is a really 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.280 interesting topic, especially something that's very personal to me, something 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.360 that I've already openly talked about. What have you talked 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.640 about openly? We spoke about pretty much everything. What The 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.199 better question is what? What? Three? This episode is focused 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.280 on Vanessa and in particular, one very specific thing about 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.800 Vanessa's anatomy. Yeah, can you guess my favorite part of 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.880 Vanessa's anatomy. I just also want the audience. I'm sitting 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.480 in between Vanessa and Gane right now, and I'm feeling 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.720 a little uncomfortable. Anyways, there's one part, one part. There's 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:15.959 one part so important to me, it's also very important 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.400 to her. I think that UH is one of the 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.760 most important things about her. And she talked about in 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.000 the past, message your mind, elaborating a little bit for 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.520 the listeners out there about what we're gonna just dive 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.199 into a little bit more. We're gonna have some guests 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.120 on talking about there. What part of your Vanessa are 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:36.360 we about to dive into. Well, it's round, Yeah, it's 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.160 two of them. Well there's more than two. Not well, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:46.360 I know inside there's more than two. This podcast has 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.240 gone different. And I thought, talking about talking about my ovaries, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.600 there's two ovaries. I was talking about the eggs in particular. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.040 But I do love the ovaries. If the eggs would 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.200 be meaningless at the ovaries right right, And so the 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.280 overaries are just as mission critical as the eggs, and 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.920 so for that reason, I respect and appreciate those beautiful 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.840 ovaries just as much as those eggs. And signing here 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.720 as well, well, why are we talking about your ovaries? Well, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.160 because I've openly uh the episode that I did by myself, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.639 I I literally started crying. You were here, Easton was here, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.880 Mark was here. Mark was like, well, Vanessa, would you 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.560 ever consider having a child without a significant other? And 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.040 I literally just like choked up, and he's like, I'm 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.839 so sorry. I asked you this. I'm like, no, it's fine. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.239 It's just been weighing on me because at that point 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.400 when he asked me, I was single and I wasn't 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.880 dating anyone seriously. And I am thirty one. And last 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.720 year when I turned thirty, I got off the birth 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.679 control pill. But I was on it because of my 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.440 menstrual cramps. And I'm like, oh, I've been on it 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.680 for so long. I just don't want any like foreign subject, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.799 foreign like born things in my body anymore. So I 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:50.959 got rid of what are you laughing at? Sorry? My 0:02:51.120 --> 0:03:00.600 mom is calling you? Hold on my phone away? Should I? 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.079 Should I call my mom back? What's your mom's name? 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.079 My mom is Nancy. I want to ask her what 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.639 she thinks about I'm so sorry. I just was like, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.480 of course, my mom, all right, let me call her 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.639 back and let me see if Nancy answers the phone. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.359 Can I answer it for you? Answer the phone? Uh? Sure. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:21.040 I've never met Mrs Hiban, right, Mrs Haybon. Hi, this 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.919 is HI. This is Dean. How are you. I'm good. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.600 I don't know if your son has told you about 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.079 me at all, but him and I co host a 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.359 podcast together weekly called Help I stuck at dating? Have 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.040 you heard of it? You're you're You're live, You're live 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.840 on air on help? I suck at dating right now? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.200 Don't or your son is sitting right next to me. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.440 He's perfectly safe. Um, Vanessa is here as well. We 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.920 just wanted to take some time to say hello. Oh hello, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.200 well thank you for Oh my god? Is the best 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.200 accent ever? Is that the um? Where are you from again? Well, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.720 I'm from Rhode Island? Is that the Rhode Island act? Yeah, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.280 it's like a Boston accent. Mom, what are you doing now? 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:06.040 Have time to love you. That's so lucky to have 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.880 you as a future mother in law. You seem so sweet. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:17.040 That's Vanessa. You remember Vanessa? She was on nixt season. Yeah. Hi, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.040 all right, well Mom, I'll call you when we're out 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.880 of here. Alright, bye, Mrs Hey fun at the grocery store. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.440 By and Mom, I told you about Thrive Market. You 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:33.680 should be doing Thrive Market. All right, love you, bye, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.760 pleasure talking to you. Alright bye. Mom. That's so good. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.800 She seems like such a sweet she is the she 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.200 might be the sweetest woman I've ever met. My mom too, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.320 is the sweetest human being ever. She doesn't have a 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:52.599 bad bone in her world around. I'm sorry, what were 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:58.039 you saying? You were talking about your No, it's okay, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.720 it's okay, it's okay. I I'm the one that doesn't 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:06.640 have a mom Oh, I'm sorry, it's okay, it's okay. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:13.839 Let's let's go back to talking about Vanessa's ovaries, back 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:19.360 to the fun stuff. Um where who the hell knows? 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.080 I don't know anyway, where where am I? So? Yeah, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.240 I was talking to I was I got off the 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.760 birth control pill, I had like really bad mentional cramps. Um, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.960 And how recently was this? This is when I turned thirty? Okay, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.720 And I'm like, so this is like five years ago. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.600 I'm sorry, I'm not funny. Usually you're the one that 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.520 always compliments me because you are I I you know, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.400 I'm I like the sandwich things. You know. I want 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.560 to compliment you, But I don't want to be right. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.080 We don't want to like make my ego. No, I 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.440 don't want I want your head to be able to 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.719 fit through the door. Yeah, actually, my head is so small. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.360 Have you guys ever realized how small my head is? 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.200 It is we're talking about another part of your body. Okay, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.520 my ovaries. Sorry. And then so once I turned thirty, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.919 I didn't want any foreign, foreign thing in my body anymore. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.320 So I got off birth control. And then when I 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.320 turned thirty one, I was like, wow, I'm still single. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.560 My body is ready to have kids, but I'm not 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.720 dating anyone. What should I consider at this point in 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.640 my life? And I know a few people in Batchelor 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.440 world have done the egg freezing, and so I started 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.760 having that subject with myself, and I started exploring that 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.880 subject with my family. And I've never really looked into 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.279 it too much because I felt like, um, it scared 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.080 me a little bit. Why I think it scared me 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.080 because if I dove into it, maybe I was going 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.560 to stop my I don't know, it's like Jink, a 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.800 last resort, And maybe that's why you were like, not 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.920 a last resort, but like something you never imagined yourself doing. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.839 I didn't know, well because especially like in East Coast, 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.800 I don't know, like in Montreal, it's not something that 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.240 we openly really discussed. Like in l A. Everyone is 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.680 so like it's fast forward here with very progressive. Uh. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.480 I wouldn't say it was the last resort. I think, well, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.039 I want to get your opinion on this. Okay, Dean. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:15.280 If you and I would start dating and I said, hey, um, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.520 would you want to be a dad? What would you 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.400 say if I told you that I wanted to be 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.960 a dad? No, if I asked you, first of all, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.160 get off your phone. I know. I'm so sorry if 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.160 I'm having a serious conversation. The teacher just came out 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.000 of which was fantastic. Going to confidencecate your phone until 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.520 the end of this podcast. So if I asked you, 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.880 would you want to be a dad and you said yes, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.840 and I said, well, hey, um, I just froze my eggs, Okay, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.160 what would your reaction be or what would the first 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.120 what would be the first thought that would come up? 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.280 I don't know. Actually, be honest, I don't think that 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:47.760 I would really take too much to put too much 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.160 though in it. I was just thinking the same thing. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.960 I don't. I don't think it would really It wouldn't 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.360 scare me at all. I don't think it would really 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.400 give a second thought. Maybe it's because we're part of 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.559 this world as well, and so it's not the first 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.200 time that we as guy eyes, you're hearing about women 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.600 freezing their eggs. I think it's it's very normalized. Okay. Well, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.920 the subject of kids coming up so early on in 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.560 a in a relationship is at what point should you 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:16.440 start mentioning that. Because I've started, I think, um, whatever, uh, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.160 insecurities you have from like past relationships. I did this 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.680 one guy that I've openly spoken about this when I 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:22.960 was twenty four. I thought he was the love of 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.240 my life. I thought I was gonna get married. He 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.160 told me he didn't want kids, and I was like, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.120 oh my god. Like for two years, I thought I 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.400 was going to get married to this guy and have 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.040 kids with him. And so every other relationship I would 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.400 get into my first question, well, one of my first 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.439 questions was do you want to have kids? And I 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.719 think that's scared guys away. Well, so, my my experience 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.320 with this is I've been asked the same question before 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.079 as well, where it's I think it's good to nip 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.480 it in the bud right and get it, get it 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.600 on the table earlier rather than later. You don' wanta 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.319 be dating someone for a year or two or however 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.640 long to ultimately find out that this person doesn't want 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.360 to have kids. You have that John Cena situation where 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.240 him and his fiance because fiance wanted kids, he didn't 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.360 want kids. Did you know that for a while? Mentioned 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.319 you know, And that's a good point too. Maybe she 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.080 thought that he could change she could change his mind, 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.959 and I would never want to change someone else's mind. Um. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.120 I will say, I've I've dated older women in the past, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.400 and I do want kids at some point in my life. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.160 That's an absolute certainty, although I'm not ready for them 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.240 anytime soon, and I want to at least address that 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.760 whenever I speak with those types of women that are, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.400 you know, wanting to have kids sooner rather than later, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.760 I at least address it very very early on by 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.240 saying I want to have kids, but I just don't 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.439 want to have them from another five plus years. Yeah. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.800 I think if you're dating someone even after two months, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.640 I don't think the question is really, uh that unfair 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.839 to ask for a woman to be like, I'm like, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.040 two seconds in, dude should walk out from this date. Yeah, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.280 I mean that's fair to I guess it all depends 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.920 on where you are at in life. I mean, if 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.040 you're it's someone who is ready to get married tomorrow 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.800 and have kids, and sure, of course you can ask 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.640 on the first date, but that might scare du away 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.160 if you ask them on the first date. I would 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.760 give it at least maybe a few dates, get to 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.480 know each other, really think that this could go somewhere 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.520 and then maybe bring up the future. Well. So, so 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.640 right now we have Sadie Murray on hold, who we 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.800 know a little bit about. She's been on The Bachelor 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:13.120 before season nine, which was Prince Lorenzo. Don't even pronounce, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:24.679 does it bottom Borges Boghassi, It's I don't know what 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.199 that means. Anyways, she has been I guess she was 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.160 maybe the original Bachelor virgin. That could correct me if 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.680 I'm wrong on that. But um, we want to gather 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.839 her inside a little bit because obviously any type of 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.720 of insight can help you out with your with your 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.360 quest as well. Um, so let's jump over to Sadie 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.240 Murray if she is on the line, CD, are you 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:47.000 there all right, Sadie? How are you hey? Sadie? Great? 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.240 How are you guying? We are fantastic, Thank you so 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.800 much for taking the time to speak with us today. So, um, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:57.480 you're joined with Jared, Vanessa and Dean and do you 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.920 guys want to take over? Well, I was gonna say so, Sadie, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.640 just to give a little background to the listeners. Now, Sadie, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.360 you were on season nine of The Bachelor, and that 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.200 was back in two thousand and seven, two thou eight. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.400 I know, it feels like there weren't even TVs then. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.800 There were definitely TVs. They were just black and white. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:24.200 I'm completely teasing. Um. And So, Sadie, an interesting fact 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.040 about you which I did not know, and obviously it's 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.439 pretty relevant with this current season of the Bachelor, was 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.559 that you, uh were very open about your virginity on 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.400 the show back then. Yes, I think it was the 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.439 first girl to actually, like I guess, come out and 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.640 talk about it. You were. I was the o G. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:50.040 I paved the way for Berton. Sadie. How old were 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.600 you when you were on the show. I was twenty 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.240 four at the time. So, and I honestly though, you guys, like, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.400 I'm sure we've all talked about this before, but like 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.400 you think, when you're talking about one thing, you don't 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.079 think it's going to be used over and over and 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.280 over again. I mean, there were so many other things 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.400 that I talked about, and so that was that was 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.319 definitely a shocker for me. When. I mean, honestly, I 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.040 remember watching the premiere with all of my friends and 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.440 family and like it was just like it was there 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.720 were so many awkward silences, like there was not enough 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.400 wine in the room to make anyone feel comfortable. But 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.959 they all knew you were a virgin, too, right, I 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.120 mean yeah, I mean I was raised Christian and that 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.439 was definitely, you know, a part of my upbringing, and 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.160 so it wasn't abnormal as far as you know, the 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.680 friends that I had at the time that I think 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:44.680 the just the emphasis on it was definitely a surprise. Well, so, Sadie, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.599 can you jump into your experience or your journey I 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.959 guess post show then what kind of happened to you 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.959 after and kind of fill us in on everything that 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.920 we might have missed. Yeah, I wish it was so fun. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.400 So I loved being on camera. I was in pr 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.320 before and I was behind the scenes and drinks aaston 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.400 and beauty lifestyle pitching for magazines and TV shows. And 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.439 then honestly, I cold called William morris Um through a 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.800 friend at Extra. They were like you should. I was like, 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.520 I really want to keep doing TV. I want to 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.640 do that, you know. I was such a cliche. So 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.840 like Coals called William Morris and I was like, Hi, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.679 I'm a blonde girl who was a runner up a 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.040 lot of Bachelor. I want to be a TV OS 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.480 and They're like, oh my god, get in line. I 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.199 ended up meeting with them and they signed with me 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.880 for a few years, and that really um jump started 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.920 my my world into TV. And since then, I you know, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.720 I got to host a few shows, but then I've 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.920 created this business for myself to go to girlfriend where 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:47.199 I'll curate different segments for various TV shows from extras 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.240 to you know, k P l A or wherever Good 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.760 Day l A and um, I'll go on and I'll 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.079 talk about baston and beauty and my style. Right and 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.480 I'm working on what to buy people for Valentine's Day. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.360 So it's really really fun and I have the that 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.839 sory to think for that truthfully, So what do you 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.800 think people should buy their significant others for Valentine's Day? 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.840 There's so many good things, but you can't right now, 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.520 I'm talking with a few people. I love those and 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.679 you have to go with flowers for sure, but not 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.640 just rinky think flowers from the grocery store. I'm not 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.760 a flower person at all. I think, even like when 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.360 I was on the show, I mentioned how I like, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.680 I'm getting a rose at a rose ceremony, Like obviously 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.440 I wanted the rose for what it's symbolized, but I 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.400 just I don't like flowers. I like what they're doing nowadays, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.640 they take like kale in arugula and they turn it 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:40.480 into like, uh, like every girl in a flower arrangement, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.800 every girl says they're not flower girls, and then you 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.400 don't get flowers farm on Valentine's Day? Can I say something? 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.160 I told this guy that that I'm now dating, I 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.400 told him I don't like flowers, and so he sent 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.080 me before our first date is a bouquet of kid cat. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.680 That's very sweet, but that's what i'd rather, right, But 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.120 like somebody you've been dating for quite some time, Like 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.240 if I didn't get flowers for Ashley, and I don't 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.680 think she's branded herself as a flower girl, she would 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:16.440 be so sad. Yeah, there's definitely a certain appreciation. There's 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.240 an for the flowers. I mean, just to do it. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.320 You can't go wrong, you know, you can't go wrong. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.640 Obviously I don't want to forget that. Yeah, jewelry is 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.040 always a good one. Um, Sadie, I actually kind of 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.920 wanted to ask you a quick question about your experience 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.240 on the bat Well Lorenzo, because you actually had a 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.400 really interesting experience off show as well, because Sadie, you 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.800 were runner up on your season season nine of The 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.600 Bath Stor and then he picked someone else, but then 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.920 he broke up with her, and then you guys started 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:51.520 dating again. Yes, how did that happen? So it was 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:56.360 really wild because I walked into that final ceremony's feeling 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.920 really really confident, like I he was going to pick me, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.720 and I wasn't. I didn't think I was like the 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.480 greatest thing on earth. But I was like, yeah, that 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.080 was He's going to pick me that Why wouldn't he? 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.880 We had such a great time. So I was really 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.880 thrown when he didn't. And then I remember he covered 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:15.960 his mic and started like tapping it and was like, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.080 I'll text you after the show. I'll text you after 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:25.240 all of this, and I'll explain later. It was a 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:31.600 pay phone, Vanessa, Um right, I remember though, I was 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.120 at the airport and I was just like called, I 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.000 called my mom and I'm like, I have no idea 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.400 what just happened, like, I don't know what is going 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.040 to air. I don't know what's happened. But he was 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.440 emailing me at the time and was like I wanted 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.960 to pick you, but really confused. And then so yeah, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.760 long story, stort uh. He was doing all the press 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.120 with Jed the Winner, and I was watching them on 0:16:55.240 --> 0:17:00.480 Good Morning America and he was texting me like love diet. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:05.120 So it was really how soon n did he break 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.920 up with her and start dieting? You? Um, I would 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.720 stay within a couple of months. A couple of months, Okay, Yeah, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.480 I moved. I moved to New York for a job 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.960 right after the show. I was like I needed I 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.040 don't know if you guys felt this way, but didn't 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.680 you did you feel like you needed sort of like 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.040 another high right after the show, like another I wanted 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.800 to get far away from it. Yeah, I mean I 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.840 wanted to get far away from it in my own way, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.240 but I wanted like another major. I wanted something else 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.720 to go to. I was really I loved it. I 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.680 wanted one more thing. And so I ended up getting 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.160 a job in New York and he lived in New York, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.800 and so we naturally started and so. I mean it 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.600 was super casual. But you know, was he an actual potence? 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.280 He was a prince by nobility, so he wasn't a royal. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:00.760 It was just basically a family given. How all so 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.840 could like I give myself the title of prince in 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.400 my family? No, I mean it's not like Queen Latifa, 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.640 but I believe it like them in his campaign, it's 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.639 like that, you know. Yeah, so it went. It was 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.879 basically through no ability. Well do you still watch The 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.800 Bachelor today? Yeah? I mean I'll get in when I can. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.439 I'm trying my hardest to get into this season. Um, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.480 that premiere was just so long. Yeah, part I couldn't 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.240 watch the live part. Sorry about that. The host of 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.240 the live part just really killed it for me. You know, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:40.480 a great thanks, I appreciate what. Well. The reason I 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.639 asked is because I'm curious from someone who's been in 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.159 the franchise but was on season nine. Uh, do you 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.399 notice any really huge differences between what the show was 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.560 back then and what it is now? I mean it 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.720 is it's so elevated as far as the characters go. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.840 I mean on my season, it was everybody was kind 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.240 of um not not like basics but really they seemed 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.920 more normal. I feel like it's really amplified, like with 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.359 the girl bringing her puppy and then the chariot, Like 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.800 everything is just a little bit more amplified. And I 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.399 mean it makes for great TV, um. I mean, especially 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.479 when you're competing against other shows like Married at first Night. 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.000 I mean, we need it to be watchable, like we 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.600 want to be stucked in. So I would say as 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.120 far as the foundation goes, it is all completely the same. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.720 But I mean it's just the girls are a little 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.000 bit more um exciting. Exciting is a good way to 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.280 put it. Yeah, a lot a lot of different carcs. 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.720 How would you put a dean? I would say exactly that, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.320 that they're a little bit more exciting. I mean I 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.440 didn't watch The Bachelor in two two thous eight, but 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.600 you know, I feel like the leads. I mean they 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.879 got a prince to be one of the leads. Colton 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.040 is a former professional football player. That's true. I don't know, 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.200 but I thought it was like back then, I thought 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.560 it was uh like princes and stuff. I don't know. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.720 I guess like that's when it first came out. I 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.719 think it used to be a little bit more Uh, 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.240 celebrity driven, um and high profile, That's what I meant. 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.840 But I do think it's probably changed over the years 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.240 because I think audiences really get attached and I think 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.040 the Bachelor kind of found its formula by bringing someone 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.960 who you know, listen, whoever the Bachelor of the Bachelorette 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.240 is is extremely good looking, probably pretty successful. Um. But 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.879 I will say, yeah, I'm sure that they like bringing 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.440 them in likable, right, and a little bit more relatable. 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.040 I think they like having their lead a little bit 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.720 more relatable today, right, Sadie. So we're actually we're having 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.440 a conversation. I'm thirty one and I was on Nick 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.639 season at the Bachelor, got engaged to Nick ended, our 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.800 relationship ended. I don't know how many months in November 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.280 Rember jennied six months. No, well we got engaged in 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.200 November and we only came out in March. Anyway, anyway, 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.879 whatever under a year. And uh, I thought, you know, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.000 after him and I, after our relationship ended, I'm like, oh, 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.200 for sure, like meet someone or whatever. And I hadn't 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.080 met anyone up until very recently. So when I turned 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:08.800 thirty one, which is a couple of months ago, I 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.399 was having this conversation with myself of egg freezing. And 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.760 I don't know what your take is on that. Um, 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.200 I don't know how old you are, Um, but what 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.800